Serbian to be mandatory subject in Montenegrin schools

Interesting to add: for centuries the dialects spoken along the Montenegrin and Dalmatian coast used to be called "Illyrian" reflecting the fact that the Slavic and pre-Slavic (and also quite some Venetian) population did mix.

Also of common knowledge: Illyrian pirates were feared in antic times and that reflects what Montenegrins and Croats know about the sea... since ever.

Unlike some "neo-Illyrians" - who claim to be the "real ting" lately - but "somehow" they forgot everything about the sea, even in Ottoman times their mercenaries carefully avoided anything what had to do with water... and only the ones who learned it from Greeks did not fear the high seas.

Just one more "proof" about Illyrian Dardanians being the direct ancestors of Hashish Baksheesh.

Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?
(Mirel from Albania, 16 August 2011 16:35)

They are about as different as Albanian and "Kosovanian."

Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?

There is no real difference between these languages its all political BS and hate its a sad situation really.

Man this sounds like a challenging course. Should immediately follow Underwater Basket Weaving 101.

Can someone kindly explain to me the difference between the Serbian and Montenegrin languages?

I mean, is the difference merely cosmetic, as I understand British English and Yankee English to be? For instance, the spelling "color" is Yankee whereas the British are a bit more long-winded with their "colour", or is the Serbian-Montenegrin difference much more than that? Thanks in advance.

Thanks in advance.

"Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?"


Different armies.

Once again big brother Serbia wants a say on what is taught at Montenegrin schools. The country is called Montenegro and the only language that should be taught is that of Montenegro. The Serbian language should only be taught as a second language say on a Saturday morning and not during the normal school hours.
(Podgorica, 17 August 2011 04:32)

"The latest census in Montenegro showed that a 43 per cent majority of citizens speak Serbian."

^ did you miss that line?

And since I live in Chicago, I speak Illinoian, not American, or English.

"The latest census in Montenegro showed that a 43 per cent majority of citizens speak Serbian. "

43% is a plurality - it's the largest group - not a majority (>50%).

as it seems Albanians do not need any help from internet historians.
(Mini Giraffe, 16 August 2011 19:09)

Miri, this is called "jumping the gun" and for Amer this is the case when it's said: "akinek nem inge, ne vegye magára" ( = "if it's not your shirt, don't put it on").

Not just the word "Albanian" was carefully avoided - at the end it was even a hint in the nick, Albanians have nothing to do with all that like "neo-Illyrians" or "Hashish Baksheesh". Now if you feel to the contrary... your problem, I am innocent and wash my hands ;-)

Once again big brother Serbia wants a say on what is taught at Montenegrin schools. The country is called Montenegro and the only language that should be taught is that of Montenegro. The Serbian language should only be taught as a second language say on a Saturday morning and not during the normal school hours.

"Serbian to be mandatory subject in Montenegrin schools"

I heard it is planned to introduce Croatian and Bosnian in elementary schools, too. Then every pupil will learn three foreign languages. Isn't that great?

"Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?"


Different armies.
(Danilo, 16 August 2011 21:36)

And different flags. Nothing more :)

Je¿ blah blah blahski maybe can use this episode to add to his amazing "neo-Illyrians" theory:
"The Šarplaninac Dog was first registered by FCI in 1939 as the Illyrian Shepherd ... However at the request of the Yugoslavian Federation of Cynology in 1957 the breed name was changed to Yugoslav Shepherd Dog-Šarplaninac" It seem as at some point a lot of people were deluded in believing they had something to do with the Illyrians.
Now the Slavs of Macedonia seem a bit confused and probably could use Je¿ pseudointelectualny as it seems Albanians do not need any help from internet historians.

"Can someone kindly explain to me the difference between the Serbian and Montenegrin languages?

I mean, is the difference merely cosmetic, as I understand British English and Yankee English to be?

Thanks in advance.
lowe"

YOu're correct in your assessment. It appears that they're doing what they can to differentiate themselves from the Serbs.

It's interesting to see how Belgrade, unable to retain control over Bosnia, Croatia, and Kosovo, reflexively fights to dominate Montenegro.

Serbia and Montenegro could be great friends, but friendship requires mutual respect. Belgrade's attempts to control the language spoken in Montenegro evince a complete lack of respect for the smaller nation.

"Not just the word "Albanian" was carefully avoided..."
(Je¿ illirski, czarnogorski, chorvatski - i nie albañski, 16 August 2011 16:57)
please file this under: "If the cap fits, wear it"

"Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?"


Different armies.
(Danilo, 16 August 2011 21:36)

But same deadly mindset. Feel free to include some others from the region, too - even if the language is not the same. Like Hungarians, Macedonians, Bulgarians for the start and Albanians for the finish.

please file this under: "If the cap fits, wear it"
(Mini Giraffe, 16 August 2011 23:19)

Okay, if you want to wear it - please explain the (lack of) Albanian military carriers in Ottoman NAVY.
However, if it was about general military carrier - there was no shortage of the middle or high-ranking officers and of course grunts, too. But the navy was firmly in hands of people born on aegeian islands.

In antic times, however, illyrian pirates was a major headache for Romans or Greeks.
You guys forgot how to sail?

Once again big brother Serbia wants a say on what is taught at Montenegrin schools. The country is called Montenegro and the only language that should be taught is that of Montenegro. The Serbian language should only be taught as a second language say on a Saturday morning and not during the normal school hours.

Interesting to add: for centuries the dialects spoken along the Montenegrin and Dalmatian coast used to be called "Illyrian" reflecting the fact that the Slavic and pre-Slavic (and also quite some Venetian) population did mix.

Also of common knowledge: Illyrian pirates were feared in antic times and that reflects what Montenegrins and Croats know about the sea... since ever.

Unlike some "neo-Illyrians" - who claim to be the "real ting" lately - but "somehow" they forgot everything about the sea, even in Ottoman times their mercenaries carefully avoided anything what had to do with water... and only the ones who learned it from Greeks did not fear the high seas.

Just one more "proof" about Illyrian Dardanians being the direct ancestors of Hashish Baksheesh.

Je¿ blah blah blahski maybe can use this episode to add to his amazing "neo-Illyrians" theory:
"The Šarplaninac Dog was first registered by FCI in 1939 as the Illyrian Shepherd ... However at the request of the Yugoslavian Federation of Cynology in 1957 the breed name was changed to Yugoslav Shepherd Dog-Šarplaninac" It seem as at some point a lot of people were deluded in believing they had something to do with the Illyrians.
Now the Slavs of Macedonia seem a bit confused and probably could use Je¿ pseudointelectualny as it seems Albanians do not need any help from internet historians.

as it seems Albanians do not need any help from internet historians.
(Mini Giraffe, 16 August 2011 19:09)

Miri, this is called "jumping the gun" and for Amer this is the case when it's said: "akinek nem inge, ne vegye magára" ( = "if it's not your shirt, don't put it on").

Not just the word "Albanian" was carefully avoided - at the end it was even a hint in the nick, Albanians have nothing to do with all that like "neo-Illyrians" or "Hashish Baksheesh". Now if you feel to the contrary... your problem, I am innocent and wash my hands ;-)

"The latest census in Montenegro showed that a 43 per cent majority of citizens speak Serbian. "

43% is a plurality - it's the largest group - not a majority (>50%).

"Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?"


Different armies.

"Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?"


Different armies.
(Danilo, 16 August 2011 21:36)

But same deadly mindset. Feel free to include some others from the region, too - even if the language is not the same. Like Hungarians, Macedonians, Bulgarians for the start and Albanians for the finish.

Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?

Can someone kindly explain to me the difference between the Serbian and Montenegrin languages?

I mean, is the difference merely cosmetic, as I understand British English and Yankee English to be? For instance, the spelling "color" is Yankee whereas the British are a bit more long-winded with their "colour", or is the Serbian-Montenegrin difference much more than that? Thanks in advance.

Thanks in advance.

There is no real difference between these languages its all political BS and hate its a sad situation really.

"Can someone kindly explain to me the difference between the Serbian and Montenegrin languages?

I mean, is the difference merely cosmetic, as I understand British English and Yankee English to be?

Thanks in advance.
lowe"

YOu're correct in your assessment. It appears that they're doing what they can to differentiate themselves from the Serbs.

please file this under: "If the cap fits, wear it"
(Mini Giraffe, 16 August 2011 23:19)

Okay, if you want to wear it - please explain the (lack of) Albanian military carriers in Ottoman NAVY.
However, if it was about general military carrier - there was no shortage of the middle or high-ranking officers and of course grunts, too. But the navy was firmly in hands of people born on aegeian islands.

In antic times, however, illyrian pirates was a major headache for Romans or Greeks.
You guys forgot how to sail?

It's interesting to see how Belgrade, unable to retain control over Bosnia, Croatia, and Kosovo, reflexively fights to dominate Montenegro.

Serbia and Montenegro could be great friends, but friendship requires mutual respect. Belgrade's attempts to control the language spoken in Montenegro evince a complete lack of respect for the smaller nation.

Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?
(Mirel from Albania, 16 August 2011 16:35)

They are about as different as Albanian and "Kosovanian."

Man this sounds like a challenging course. Should immediately follow Underwater Basket Weaving 101.

"Not just the word "Albanian" was carefully avoided..."
(Je¿ illirski, czarnogorski, chorvatski - i nie albañski, 16 August 2011 16:57)
please file this under: "If the cap fits, wear it"

"Enlight me,but where is the defference between Serbian,Montenegrin,Croatia and Bosnian language?"


Different armies.
(Danilo, 16 August 2011 21:36)

And different flags. Nothing more :)

"Serbian to be mandatory subject in Montenegrin schools"

I heard it is planned to introduce Croatian and Bosnian in elementary schools, too. Then every pupil will learn three foreign languages. Isn't that great?

Once again big brother Serbia wants a say on what is taught at Montenegrin schools. The country is called Montenegro and the only language that should be taught is that of Montenegro. The Serbian language should only be taught as a second language say on a Saturday morning and not during the normal school hours.
(Podgorica, 17 August 2011 04:32)

"The latest census in Montenegro showed that a 43 per cent majority of citizens speak Serbian."

^ did you miss that line?

And since I live in Chicago, I speak Illinoian, not American, or English.