Belgrade mayor: EU is not "meaning of our lives"

"Belgrade mayor: EU is not "meaning of our lives"

For the sake of all Serbians, I should hope the mayor is right. The EU better not be the be-all-and-end-all for them -- just look at the financial contagion spreading like wild fire in this unwieldy entity -- first Ireland and Greece, then Spain, and now Italy and possibly France too -- that's already about 20% of the members afflicted -- anyone fool enough to believe it will end here?

Not to mention currently "unaffected" members like Bulgaria and Mircea's Romania who are considered problematic by the EU masters -- gosh! I just don't get it! How can Tadic's government possibly in good conscience wanna drag their entire country into this dysfunctional organization merely for the sake of re-election???? Or maybe they can ....

-He said that Europe should not ask Serbia to see the abolition of visas as a great reward "for getting passing grades", because free travel was "a right that belonged to every European.-

That means kosovo albanians are not european since they don't have free travel. I guess its time to move back to Turkey.

So then Serbia can take loans to pay war reparations to Croatia and BiH too. Good news!

Rigth on Djilas!

"Đilas said that Serbia's EU membership was not "the meaning of our lives", but a guarantee that rules ensuring better life would be respected by everyone in Serbia."

Correct. Even without a quick membership, compliance with EU/European standards is improving the situation in Serbia.

The other things he said are reasonable, too. So if he should be going for the next PM of Serbia wouldn't be a bad thing.

Belgrade mayor: EU is not "meaning of our lives"

For the sake of all Serbians, I should hope the mayor is right. The EU better not be the be-all-and-end-all for them -- just look at the financial contagion spreading like wild fire in this unwieldy entity -- first Ireland and Greece, then Spain, and now Italy and possibly France too -- that's already about 20% of the members afflicted -- anyone fool enough to believe it will end here?

Not to mention currently "unaffected" members like Bulgaria and Mircea's Romania who are considered problematic by the EU masters -- gosh! I just don't get it! How can Tadic's government possibly in good conscience wanna drag their entire country into this dysfunctional organization merely for the sake of re-election???? Or maybe they can ....
(lowe, 14 August 2011 15:16)
Notice a huge difference between the countries you mention and Serbia? When was the last time Serbia made a big donation to another country in need? When was the last time any of these countries received a huge donation?
These countries rely on loans to fill their budget and have let it get away from them. Serbia relies on loans and DONATIONS to fill their economical gap. I wonder where these countries would be if they ended their foreign aid? I wonder where Serbia would be if they and others ended their foreign aid?

So then Serbia can take loans to pay war reparations to Croatia and BiH too. Good news!
(Justice, 14 August 2011 15:51)

Don't leave out Kosovo. Very soon Kosovo will sue Serbia too.

"Notice a huge difference between the countries you mention and Serbia? When was the last time Serbia made a big donation to another country in need? When was the last time any of these countries received a huge donation?
These countries rely on loans to fill their budget and have let it get away from them. Serbia relies on loans and DONATIONS to fill their economical gap. I wonder where these countries would be if they ended their foreign aid? I wonder where Serbia would be if they and others ended their foreign aid?
(think again, 14 August 2011 17:56)"

So what is your point? That Serbia will be able to make huge donations or loans once she joins the EU??? Even the big guns like Italy and France are in financial hot seats at the moment. Regardless of the donations that Serbia had received, given the present situation, how does it benefit Serbia or other EU wannabes to gain membership? I suspect you don't even know what you are writing about!

Serbia can sue all of those statelets for stealing Serbian property and long-term ethnic cleansing of Serbs.
Serbia paid for and built the infrastructure of Kosovo, not Albania.
Serbian businesses, homes and land have been stolen for years.
Also more Serbian businesses and the more expensive land were taken by the Croats and Muslim Bosnians.
Serbs can sue for the much longer ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands - not the temporary "ethnic cleansing" which is only people running out from an active war and/or due to intense NATO bombing.

"So what is your point? That Serbia will be able to make huge donations or loans once she joins the EU??? Even the big guns like Italy and France are in financial hot seats at the moment. "

I guess the point is that Serbian standards of living, GDP, average salaries and further figures are lower than in any EU member state, so people from Serbia are not in the best position to look down on the EU.

Easy for you major to send Europe "in 3 p...m...": how much is your salary?!

"I guess the point is that Serbian standards of living, GDP, average salaries and further figures are lower than in any EU member state, so people from Serbia are not in the best position to look down on the EU.
(Comm. Parisson, 15 August 2011 10:49)"

Which is out of point to what I originally wrote. Who said anything about looking down on the EU? Who said anything about making donations? What I did was to question the benefits that Serbia (and other EU wannabes) stand to gain from EU membership. And so far neither you nor "think again" has addressed these points.

These countries rely on loans to fill their budget and have let it get away from them. Serbia relies on loans and DONATIONS to fill their economical gap. I wonder where these countries would be if they ended their foreign aid? I wonder where Serbia would be if they and others ended their foreign aid?
(think again, 14 August 2011 17:56)
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Geting loan,from who? geting away from who?
Do you thik donation for Serbia camming from their loans?do u???
Even i think is pointless,i beging you THINK AGAIN !

"I'll try to answer this: Take Slovenia, an ex-YU republic and already EU member state for years. Compare their economic figures and living standards with Serbia, and you should be able to see the benefits of an EU membership. I know that Slovenia has been the wealthiest region in YU, so a simple 1:1 comparison is not valid, but still.
(Analyst, 15 August 2011 19:29) "


Finally someone writing something sensible after the wild goose chase from Comm Parisson and that "think again"!

Analyst, you have a point about Slovenia. But as you yourself conceded, it is not a 1:1 comparison. If the likes of Serbia, Macedonia and Bosnia finally get to join the EU, and that's a HUMONGOUS "IF", they will likely join in the category of Romania and Bulgaria who, if I'm not mistaken, joined with caveats imposed on them on issues like reforms and restrictions on labour movement. The EU is in reality not an association of equals, and nobody should be under any illusion as to which category of membership Serbia will be assigned if and when the EU masters deign to admit her.

"What I did was to question the benefits that Serbia (and other EU wannabes) stand to gain from EU membership."
(lowe, 15 August 2011 12:32)

I'll try to answer this: Take Slovenia, an ex-YU republic and already EU member state for years. Compare their economic figures and living standards with Serbia, and you should be able to see the benefits of an EU membership. I know that Slovenia has been the wealthiest region in YU, so a simple 1:1 comparison is not valid, but still.

So then Serbia can take loans to pay war reparations to Croatia and BiH too. Good news!

-He said that Europe should not ask Serbia to see the abolition of visas as a great reward "for getting passing grades", because free travel was "a right that belonged to every European.-

That means kosovo albanians are not european since they don't have free travel. I guess its time to move back to Turkey.

Belgrade mayor: EU is not "meaning of our lives"

For the sake of all Serbians, I should hope the mayor is right. The EU better not be the be-all-and-end-all for them -- just look at the financial contagion spreading like wild fire in this unwieldy entity -- first Ireland and Greece, then Spain, and now Italy and possibly France too -- that's already about 20% of the members afflicted -- anyone fool enough to believe it will end here?

Not to mention currently "unaffected" members like Bulgaria and Mircea's Romania who are considered problematic by the EU masters -- gosh! I just don't get it! How can Tadic's government possibly in good conscience wanna drag their entire country into this dysfunctional organization merely for the sake of re-election???? Or maybe they can ....
(lowe, 14 August 2011 15:16)
Notice a huge difference between the countries you mention and Serbia? When was the last time Serbia made a big donation to another country in need? When was the last time any of these countries received a huge donation?
These countries rely on loans to fill their budget and have let it get away from them. Serbia relies on loans and DONATIONS to fill their economical gap. I wonder where these countries would be if they ended their foreign aid? I wonder where Serbia would be if they and others ended their foreign aid?

So then Serbia can take loans to pay war reparations to Croatia and BiH too. Good news!
(Justice, 14 August 2011 15:51)

Don't leave out Kosovo. Very soon Kosovo will sue Serbia too.

"Belgrade mayor: EU is not "meaning of our lives"

For the sake of all Serbians, I should hope the mayor is right. The EU better not be the be-all-and-end-all for them -- just look at the financial contagion spreading like wild fire in this unwieldy entity -- first Ireland and Greece, then Spain, and now Italy and possibly France too -- that's already about 20% of the members afflicted -- anyone fool enough to believe it will end here?

Not to mention currently "unaffected" members like Bulgaria and Mircea's Romania who are considered problematic by the EU masters -- gosh! I just don't get it! How can Tadic's government possibly in good conscience wanna drag their entire country into this dysfunctional organization merely for the sake of re-election???? Or maybe they can ....

Serbia can sue all of those statelets for stealing Serbian property and long-term ethnic cleansing of Serbs.
Serbia paid for and built the infrastructure of Kosovo, not Albania.
Serbian businesses, homes and land have been stolen for years.
Also more Serbian businesses and the more expensive land were taken by the Croats and Muslim Bosnians.
Serbs can sue for the much longer ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands - not the temporary "ethnic cleansing" which is only people running out from an active war and/or due to intense NATO bombing.

"Đilas said that Serbia's EU membership was not "the meaning of our lives", but a guarantee that rules ensuring better life would be respected by everyone in Serbia."

Correct. Even without a quick membership, compliance with EU/European standards is improving the situation in Serbia.

The other things he said are reasonable, too. So if he should be going for the next PM of Serbia wouldn't be a bad thing.

"Notice a huge difference between the countries you mention and Serbia? When was the last time Serbia made a big donation to another country in need? When was the last time any of these countries received a huge donation?
These countries rely on loans to fill their budget and have let it get away from them. Serbia relies on loans and DONATIONS to fill their economical gap. I wonder where these countries would be if they ended their foreign aid? I wonder where Serbia would be if they and others ended their foreign aid?
(think again, 14 August 2011 17:56)"

So what is your point? That Serbia will be able to make huge donations or loans once she joins the EU??? Even the big guns like Italy and France are in financial hot seats at the moment. Regardless of the donations that Serbia had received, given the present situation, how does it benefit Serbia or other EU wannabes to gain membership? I suspect you don't even know what you are writing about!

"So what is your point? That Serbia will be able to make huge donations or loans once she joins the EU??? Even the big guns like Italy and France are in financial hot seats at the moment. "

I guess the point is that Serbian standards of living, GDP, average salaries and further figures are lower than in any EU member state, so people from Serbia are not in the best position to look down on the EU.

"I guess the point is that Serbian standards of living, GDP, average salaries and further figures are lower than in any EU member state, so people from Serbia are not in the best position to look down on the EU.
(Comm. Parisson, 15 August 2011 10:49)"

Which is out of point to what I originally wrote. Who said anything about looking down on the EU? Who said anything about making donations? What I did was to question the benefits that Serbia (and other EU wannabes) stand to gain from EU membership. And so far neither you nor "think again" has addressed these points.

"What I did was to question the benefits that Serbia (and other EU wannabes) stand to gain from EU membership."
(lowe, 15 August 2011 12:32)

I'll try to answer this: Take Slovenia, an ex-YU republic and already EU member state for years. Compare their economic figures and living standards with Serbia, and you should be able to see the benefits of an EU membership. I know that Slovenia has been the wealthiest region in YU, so a simple 1:1 comparison is not valid, but still.

These countries rely on loans to fill their budget and have let it get away from them. Serbia relies on loans and DONATIONS to fill their economical gap. I wonder where these countries would be if they ended their foreign aid? I wonder where Serbia would be if they and others ended their foreign aid?
(think again, 14 August 2011 17:56)
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Geting loan,from who? geting away from who?
Do you thik donation for Serbia camming from their loans?do u???
Even i think is pointless,i beging you THINK AGAIN !

Rigth on Djilas!

Easy for you major to send Europe "in 3 p...m...": how much is your salary?!

"I'll try to answer this: Take Slovenia, an ex-YU republic and already EU member state for years. Compare their economic figures and living standards with Serbia, and you should be able to see the benefits of an EU membership. I know that Slovenia has been the wealthiest region in YU, so a simple 1:1 comparison is not valid, but still.
(Analyst, 15 August 2011 19:29) "


Finally someone writing something sensible after the wild goose chase from Comm Parisson and that "think again"!

Analyst, you have a point about Slovenia. But as you yourself conceded, it is not a 1:1 comparison. If the likes of Serbia, Macedonia and Bosnia finally get to join the EU, and that's a HUMONGOUS "IF", they will likely join in the category of Romania and Bulgaria who, if I'm not mistaken, joined with caveats imposed on them on issues like reforms and restrictions on labour movement. The EU is in reality not an association of equals, and nobody should be under any illusion as to which category of membership Serbia will be assigned if and when the EU masters deign to admit her.