UN Security Council to hold Kosovo session on Aug. 29

Loyal Albanian - you people come to our country crying as victims yet crime explodes as your gangs use extreme violence to take over organized crime. Stabbings have now become a regular occurrence because albanian 'youth' all carry knives with them. We don't want you because of your reputation. And stop calling yourselves 'yugoslavs' because you are afraid to say you are albanian. Our stupid politicians might support your backward, corrupt and criminal politicians and clans, but people on the street who see this behavior day in and day out do not agree. Some of you are decent, but they are far outweighed and are terrified of retribution if they go to the police. Just stay in your hole over there until you can figure it out.

Loyal Albanian 41°52′55″N 87°37′40″W, 12 August 2011 21:39)

Before you and agim hit that pipe again-please explain albanian eu values as you see it...is in it truth that albanians are kidnaping their own kids and selling them on eu markets like a sack of potatoes,is in it truth that that kfor closed a medical clinic in prishtina for illegal organ trade(this was just a year ago),is in it truth that albanians stone every car or a bus with minority visiting graves of relatives..
Albanians would not know the truth if it hits them in the face time after time..and values albanian way we so know well...so stop smoking and get a grip on reality..eu hates you more than we do..but they have to protect bundsteel..

This meeting is of massive importance !!
As you know, the UNSC consists of the five permanent member states US, Russia, China, GB and France of which Russia and China says clearly NO to the K Albanians unlawful move.
The rest of the council that says NO are Brazil, Bosnia and Herzegovina, India, South Africa, Lebanon, Gabon and Nigeria. Further, Germany, Colombia and Portugal says yes. That makes 9 no and 6 yes.

It will be very interresting. FM Jeremic´s question; "whether the international community thinks it is recommended and desirable to use physical violence in order to achieve political goals in Kosovo?".

Give it a couple of seconds and read the question again....
Do some of the readers here, even in their wildest imagination, think the answer is yes?

Because if you do, I say to Serbia; Roll down your tanks to the boundary. Send your special police SAJ, Gendarmerie, VJ etc to Mitrovica north and block the bridges; main bridge, east bridge and small bridge by Suvi Do.
Because if you answer yes on the question, no one have to comply to UNSC res 1244 that clearly says by other things that Kosovos status will be decided..........

The K Albanians have made a UDI that is NOT ratified in the UNSC and therefore the proclamation of independence is null and void.
The only one to decide for the moment is UN via Unmik via 1244 (via Eulex who works under resolution 1244).
Complicated. You bet it is, but it is how it is whether you like it or not.
I think (know) that the K Albanians and their supporters are very nervous about this meeting for a real backdraft. Thaci seems self-confident in the K Albanian press but he is full of fear, stress and doubtfullness. It could be that he will try again to save himself.
Therefore I will give some advice to the Serbs up north;

BE PREPARED to hit back with full force 24/7 if needed with blockings etc. But do not make the first blood if attacked!! Remember, you have all the rights in the world to defend yourself with the same force you are attacked with according to 1244 (I.e that the Kosovo issue is not solved and can only be solved through UN and UNSC.)
The Kfor soldiers up in the north from US, Slovenia, Poland etc are ordinary farmerboys, teachers, sportsmen, salesmen etc that does not all agree with the K Albanian gangster regime in Pristina and certainly want to come home to their mother, girlfriend or wife after their mission alive.
We will see.

They tried to prevent, and it was not K-Serbs but Serbian MUP and criminals, but they were unable to allow the flow of smmugling goods from your Serbia to Kosova.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 August 2011 18:50)

More kosovo albanian bed time fairy tales that they will tell their children! So far from Europe, culturally, politically, economically and mentally. That is why their 'friends' are deporting them all back from western europe.

The albanians should go for a partition of Kossovo or they will lose all that they have supposedly gained. The world is in financial crisis and the people in other countries will be up in arms if their governments want to back the albanians and force aggression. It's not a matter of liking one side or the other, it's about money. Look at London, you think they will jump into a war while poor people are tering up their streets, i think not. Same way in the U.S., we're broke, no jobs, nothing, the hell with being the worlds policeman! People are pissed to say the least!

The crisis in Kosovo brouke out on July 25, when members of the Kosovo police (KPS) units attempted to take administrative crossings in northern Kosovo.

You are a fool Mr. wolfman. It was not an attempt, but they took over and goods are coming in from Serbia into Kosova.


Their attempt was prevented by Serbs from northern Kosovo.

They tried to prevent, and it was not K-Serbs but Serbian MUP and criminals, but they were unable to allow the flow of smmugling goods from your Serbia to Kosova.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 August 2011 18:50)


Corrections:

"goods are coming in from Serbia into Kosova", the most important word is missing "NOT" coming.
It may be an error in my part or b92 staff. Regardless, I would like to set the record straight.
Thanks b92,

@Grunt,

Cut the nonsense please. You scold Albanians for being so backwards with no European values etc. You fail to mention that its been Serbia that has been the pariah state of Europe for over 20 years now. Serbs cannot have it both ways. They cannot complain the Europe hates them and blames them for every war and supports the Albanians, Bosnians and Croations, but then turn around and allege that its the Albanians that are the pariahs of Europe. Europe has been against Serbia for over 20 years now for a reason. I dont need to tell you what those reasons are because they are obvious. Not to mention, its the West that SUPPORTS the Albanians...for a reason. Albanians are supporters of Democracy, European values and everything America and Europe stand for. Give the whole racist mudslinging of the Albanians a rest. Its not only stupid, repetitive, but also not relevant to the Kosova issue. If Serbia was truly the victims here and they are superior as you and others have alleged, then why do they only lose and lose and lose more? Actions speak louder than words.

"Albanians are supporters of Democracy, European values and everything America and Europe stand for. "
(Loyal Albanian 41°52′55″N 87°37′40″W, 12 August 2011 21:39)

I would like to believe your words, but you guys in Kosovo had the chance to prove your democratic standards and European values during the last self-organized Kosovo elections. Unfortunately, you failed miserably. With all the blatant faking, manipulation, voter intimidation and bought votes you fulfilled only Afghan standards, sorry.

@ Loyal Albanian...
You been sayng here same truth !But SELECTIVE TRUTH ,so let me explaine or even remaind uabout the routs of all of this:
1)Amerika (western Europe,NATO,the same thing,isnt?)hade strategic target to bring they army in that part of Europe, proof ?o.k
- BONDSTILL (the biggest NATO base in Europe,buid from concrit,is that temporary for you ???)
2)Economic reasons,proof?o.k
Resourses of black granite,biggest in Europe,(do i have to tell importance of that?)Kosovo was produce electricity ,ehough for about 35%of Europe,second biggest factory (FERONIKL)for the most important material in macro idustry....
obviously is not just this two reasons,there is many more,but if you want to achiev this you must brake the strong-one,agree? at the time(even now)Serbia was the strongest,and in the end do you really think Europe support Albanians because they like them,please don't be naive,please.

The crisis in Kosovo brouke out on July 25, when members of the Kosovo police (KPS) units attempted to take administrative crossings in northern Kosovo.

You are a fool Mr. wolfman. It was not an attempt, but they took over and goods are coming in from Serbia into Kosova.


Their attempt was prevented by Serbs from northern Kosovo.

They tried to prevent, and it was not K-Serbs but Serbian MUP and criminals, but they were unable to allow the flow of smmugling goods from your Serbia to Kosova.

1)Amerika (western Europe,NATO,the same thing,isnt?)hade strategic target to bring they army in that part of Europe, proof ?o.k
- BONDSTILL (the biggest NATO base in Europe,buid from concrit,is that temporary for you ???)

2)Economic reasons,proof?o.k
Resourses of black granite,biggest in Europe,(do i have to tell importance of that?)Kosovo was produce electricity ,ehough for about 35%of Europe,second biggest factory (FERONIKL)for the most important material in macro idustry....
(kosovac, 12 August 2011 23:33)

God, NATO is present in a handful of countries in the region. This Kosovo is totally unimportant. NATO prefers to be in a stable countries, and not in some troublezone. Bondsteel is called a 'camp', and that's what it is, i.e. more like a camping place than a base. Maybe check out about some real NATO bases in Europe (Germany, Italy...).

Kosovo and was producing 35% of European electricity? With these ancient two plants in Obilic, which are not even producing enough energy to supply Kosovo itself so it has to import power from Serbia? The laugh of the day. Face it: Kosovo is a black hole, small and unimportant, it has been the poorest region in EX-YU, and now is the poorest region in Europe.

@Grunt and everyone else that sides with his hateful opinionated speeches.

Grunt you're nothing more than a reflection of the ignorance and intolerance of a significant percentage of the Nationalistic Serb electorate. These are people who buy products they know nothing about because they like the advertising. I've seen several of your comments in this forum and others. You are routinely a guy who addresses none of the issues with any deliberation. You have a 6th grader's attitude toward politics and, it would seem, people in general. People like you are prime examples of why the political discourse in Serbia has deteriorated into a food fight. You don't give a second thought to the fact millions of Serbian citizens are impoverished(720,000 actually live below the poverty line) but you would rather focus on lost causes at the expense of your own people. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

@Grunt:

Seeing how you have "heat" for Albanian people the situation(if you will) is like this...

When I viewed random "stuff" on the internet I somehow came across something concerning the Albanian TV of America and where I stumbled upon a video featuring the 'Albanian Bad Boy' saying " I am Albanian Bad Boy.I want you to support Albanian TV of America.If you don't you'll get this."(A punch from what he demonstrated wearing a boxing glove) where my honest reaction was laughter.

Even though Grunt I'm under the impression that that will fuel your criticism of Albanians and even if I agree that it's an unusual publicity or PR(public relations) promotion on the part of Albanian TV of America,personally,as indicated it's humorous,for that matter the Albanian Bad Boy must be joking and the Albanian Bad Boy is just a young kid.However,though I have nothing against this kid and though I never opposed Kosovars who favor independence, I will freely admit that if there was a commercial produced that favors Kosovo's sovereignty that it wouldn't be right if the commercial featured someone saying words to the effect that 'if you don't support Kosovo's sovereignty you'll receive a punch.'

To give some of you a better understanding of Albanian TV of America and if I gathered the facts correctly it's a network or specialty network based or located in the state of Michigan and possibly the city of Detroit whose purpose is to service the needs of the Albanian-American community( I'm not certain if it only services the needs of Albanian communities in Michigan or other parts of United States as well) and finally with regards to the 'Albanian Bad Boy', who he is is a born and raised American youngster who has direct Albanian background ( the little dude seems proud of his Albanian heritage) and is somewhat famous for his boxing abilities or his ability to dodge a punch or blow from an opponent who I'm certain won't punch him for real since he's only a kid.

BE PREPARED to hit back with full force 24/7 if needed with blockings etc. But do not make the first blood if attacked!! Remember, you have all the rights in the world to defend yourself with the same force you are attacked with according to 1244 (I.e that the Kosovo issue is not solved and can only be solved through UN and UNSC.)
The Kfor soldiers up in the north from US, Slovenia, Poland etc are ordinary farmerboys, teachers, sportsmen, salesmen etc that does not all agree with the K Albanian gangster regime in Pristina and certainly want to come home to their mother, girlfriend or wife after their mission alive.
We will see.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)
Now we know you got your name as part of the Milosevic staff. Just as you have numerous times been wrong as he was when he dared NATO thinking it was a bluff.

"Albanians are supporters of Democracy, European values and everything America and Europe stand for. "
(Loyal Albanian 41°52′55″N 87°37′40″W, 12 August 2011 21:39)

Noone of the crime since 1999,been uncovered(European value?)killing children,kidnaping inocent people,burning centuries old churches(European value?)suplying Europe with human organs,class A drugs,etc..Sorry ,my very Loyal Albanian,i am living in Europe(U.K)and i NEVER heard of this kind of value,i will try to find out, i PROMISE !

God, NATO is present in a handful of countries in the region. This Kosovo is totally unimportant. NATO prefers to be in a stable countries, and not in some troublezone. Bondsteel is called a 'camp', and that's what it is, i.e. more like a camping place than a base. Maybe check out about some real NATO bases in Europe (Germany, Italy...).

Kosovo and was producing 35% of European electricity? With these ancient two plants in Obilic, which are not even producing enough energy to supply Kosovo itself so it has to import power from Serbia? The laugh of the day. Face it: Kosovo is a black hole, small and unimportant, it has been the poorest region in EX-YU, and now is the poorest region in Europe.
(Top, 13 August 2011 14:33)
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Yor comments is based on your personal guesing,mine on oficial statistic,;not one other country around Kosovo got NATO base !o.k i didn't know NATO just,, camping, ,in their(still the biggest)CAMP BONSTEEL!Maybe they build that camp(concrit no tents)for barbecue,music excitement etc..
Kosovo don't produce enought power?that is just luck of knoledge !Bernard Kushner(ex UMNIK chef)publicly admit,about this! So before u demand anything ,please,inform u self then write here!

This meeting is of massive importance !!
As you know, the UNSC consists of the five permanent member states US, Russia, China, GB and France of which Russia and China says clearly NO to the K Albanians unlawful move.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Assuming they think what you say, it is immaterial; there are other countries which may think differently… What matters is what the Security Council says.



The rest of the council that says NO are Brazil, Bosnia and Herzegovina, India, South Africa, Lebanon, Gabon and Nigeria. Further, Germany, Colombia and Portugal says yes. That makes 9 no and 6 yes.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Assuming they think what you say, it is immaterial again; there are other countries which may think differently… What matters is what the Security Council says.



It will be very interresting. FM Jeremic´s question; "whether the international community thinks it is recommended and desirable to use physical violence in order to achieve political goals in Kosovo?".

Give it a couple of seconds and read the question again....
Do some of the readers here, even in their wildest imagination, think the answer is yes?
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Of course not… That’s why it is stupid question. No need to waste time twice...




Because if you answer yes on the question, no one have to comply to UNSC res 1244 that clearly says by other things that Kosovos status will be decided..........
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Kosovo’ UDI was in accordance with 1244. If you wish, you can continue to discuss at eternity about the status with whoever has time to speak with you.



The K Albanians have made a UDI that is NOT ratified in the UNSC and therefore the proclamation of independence is null and void.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

What is the law and the article please that requires UDI’s to be ratified by the UNSC ? Actually it is the opposite, because under the terms of 1244 the UNSC did not reserve for itself the final determination of the situation in Kosovo.


The only one to decide for the moment is UN via Unmik via 1244 (via Eulex who works under resolution 1244).
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Sure and on the same time all the decisions taken in accordance with the UDI are also legal because the UDI was legal (the law of reference being the international law; of course the UDI violated Serbia’s law).



Complicated. You bet it is, but it is how it is whether you like it or not.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Of course the Albanians in Kosovo like it to the point that they included 1244 in their UDI and Constitution. Not sure what non-Albanians think though…



I think (know) that the K Albanians and their supporters are very nervous about this meeting for a real backdraft. Thaci seems self-confident in the K Albanian press but he is full of fear, stress and doubtfullness. It could be that he will try again to save himself.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

I don’t think so… Most of Albanians probably don’t even know (or care) that there is such a meeting where somebody will read a report, some others will make some statements and then everybody will go for a drink to a Manhattan bar :)



Therefore I will give some advice to the Serbs up north;

BE PREPARED to hit back with full force 24/7 if needed with blockings etc. But do not make the first blood if attacked!! Remember, you have all the rights in the world to defend yourself with the same force you are attacked with according to 1244 (I.e that the Kosovo issue is not solved and can only be solved through UN and UNSC.)
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Yes, but according to 1244 KFOR should ensure the freedom of movement. So if Serbs do what you are saying and don’t obey KFOR to restore the freedom of movement they will be violating 1244.


The Kfor soldiers up in the north from US, Slovenia, Poland etc are ordinary farmerboys, teachers, sportsmen, salesmen etc that does not all agree with the K Albanian gangster regime in Pristina and certainly want to come home to their mother, girlfriend or wife after their mission alive.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

What they agree or don’t agree is irrelevant. They are paid to follow orders. And not sure what "alive" has to do with anything. Nobody has threatened to kill them because everybody supports 1244. The US ones are actually lucky serving in Kosovo; otherwise they would be in Afghanistan...


We will see.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Yep, let us know what you’ll see…

We will see.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23
Not a single person is worried about the UNSC meeting on the 29th, Jeremic can throw out any question he wants but majority will not respond to it. They have prepared their responses far in advance. As we know it does not matter the weight of the UNSC as far as Kosovo goes it is NO Decisions, As long as there is a veto power nothing will be settled there.
Also note the UNSG report, where he says each side must refrain from unilateral moves, but stops short of saying Kosovo was in violation of anything.

Three members of UN Security Council are on Kosovo's side. So, Serbs again lose.

Never seen Camp Bonsteel have you???? There are some concrete bunkers other than that:..
(pss August 14 2:22)
I have seen ,on T.V(when Klinton vizited them)Albanian T.V !with the volumen on!what mean ,,some bunkers,,semi permanent,,and other noncence u wrote here?You givin us information like u been staying there!(you said never seen).I know so many Albanians are allready upset about Americans being so long there,mix race kids is just one of unexceptable truth ,but this is only a begining of paying the price ,just wait and you will regret about that,or maybe u do.

@ Kosovac & Loyal Albanian:

I could be mistaken but I'm assuming that you (Kosovac) are Albanian as well so therefore since you both have differing beliefs or opinions with one another, may I suggest that you both consider having a constructive or amicable dialogue with one another. Like I said it's only a suggestion.
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 14 August 2011 17:31)
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Thank's for you suggestion!
Iam not Albanian,and if you was reading all my comments you will realise that,but anyway ,i think ,i realy do,you are right,just time will tell uss everythink.

@Staff:

Even if you and certain other b92 viewers are uninterested or will dislike what I have to type and that would be that in my opinion when it comes to nations that don't recognize Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence and disagree with nations who recognize Kosovo's sovereignty that it's their opinion that Kosovo shouldn't secede from Serbia but it's also their problem if they're unhappy with nations that recognize Kosovo's status as essentially being a foreign country.

BONDSTILL (the biggest NATO base in Europe,buid from concrit,is that temporary for you ???)
please don't be naive,please.
(kosovac, 12 August 2011 23:33)
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Never seen Camp Bonsteel have you???? There are some concrete bunkers other than that:
The camp is built mainly of wooden, semi permanent SEA (South East Asia) huts and is surrounded by a 2.5 m (8.2 ft) high earthen wall. All the buildings are wood, the sleeping quarters are the individual housing units that are flown in and can be dismantled and moved there are afew tin buildings and the helicopter units are canvas. Not sure what "concrit" is but these are temporary structures. There was the dilemna a fews back due to the rains kept washing away the gravel roads that were present so they paved them since it would be cheaper than to regravel every few months.

@ Kosovac & Loyal Albanian:

I could be mistaken but I'm assuming that you (Kosovac) are Albanian as well so therefore since you both have differing beliefs or opinions with one another, may I suggest that you both consider having a constructive or amicable dialogue with one another. Like I said it's only a suggestion.

The crisis in Kosovo brouke out on July 25, when members of the Kosovo police (KPS) units attempted to take administrative crossings in northern Kosovo.

You are a fool Mr. wolfman. It was not an attempt, but they took over and goods are coming in from Serbia into Kosova.


Their attempt was prevented by Serbs from northern Kosovo.

They tried to prevent, and it was not K-Serbs but Serbian MUP and criminals, but they were unable to allow the flow of smmugling goods from your Serbia to Kosova.

@Grunt,

Cut the nonsense please. You scold Albanians for being so backwards with no European values etc. You fail to mention that its been Serbia that has been the pariah state of Europe for over 20 years now. Serbs cannot have it both ways. They cannot complain the Europe hates them and blames them for every war and supports the Albanians, Bosnians and Croations, but then turn around and allege that its the Albanians that are the pariahs of Europe. Europe has been against Serbia for over 20 years now for a reason. I dont need to tell you what those reasons are because they are obvious. Not to mention, its the West that SUPPORTS the Albanians...for a reason. Albanians are supporters of Democracy, European values and everything America and Europe stand for. Give the whole racist mudslinging of the Albanians a rest. Its not only stupid, repetitive, but also not relevant to the Kosova issue. If Serbia was truly the victims here and they are superior as you and others have alleged, then why do they only lose and lose and lose more? Actions speak louder than words.

The crisis in Kosovo brouke out on July 25, when members of the Kosovo police (KPS) units attempted to take administrative crossings in northern Kosovo.

You are a fool Mr. wolfman. It was not an attempt, but they took over and goods are coming in from Serbia into Kosova.


Their attempt was prevented by Serbs from northern Kosovo.

They tried to prevent, and it was not K-Serbs but Serbian MUP and criminals, but they were unable to allow the flow of smmugling goods from your Serbia to Kosova.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 August 2011 18:50)


Corrections:

"goods are coming in from Serbia into Kosova", the most important word is missing "NOT" coming.
It may be an error in my part or b92 staff. Regardless, I would like to set the record straight.
Thanks b92,

They tried to prevent, and it was not K-Serbs but Serbian MUP and criminals, but they were unable to allow the flow of smmugling goods from your Serbia to Kosova.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 August 2011 18:50)

More kosovo albanian bed time fairy tales that they will tell their children! So far from Europe, culturally, politically, economically and mentally. That is why their 'friends' are deporting them all back from western europe.

@Grunt and everyone else that sides with his hateful opinionated speeches.

Grunt you're nothing more than a reflection of the ignorance and intolerance of a significant percentage of the Nationalistic Serb electorate. These are people who buy products they know nothing about because they like the advertising. I've seen several of your comments in this forum and others. You are routinely a guy who addresses none of the issues with any deliberation. You have a 6th grader's attitude toward politics and, it would seem, people in general. People like you are prime examples of why the political discourse in Serbia has deteriorated into a food fight. You don't give a second thought to the fact millions of Serbian citizens are impoverished(720,000 actually live below the poverty line) but you would rather focus on lost causes at the expense of your own people. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Loyal Albanian - you people come to our country crying as victims yet crime explodes as your gangs use extreme violence to take over organized crime. Stabbings have now become a regular occurrence because albanian 'youth' all carry knives with them. We don't want you because of your reputation. And stop calling yourselves 'yugoslavs' because you are afraid to say you are albanian. Our stupid politicians might support your backward, corrupt and criminal politicians and clans, but people on the street who see this behavior day in and day out do not agree. Some of you are decent, but they are far outweighed and are terrified of retribution if they go to the police. Just stay in your hole over there until you can figure it out.

We will see.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23
Not a single person is worried about the UNSC meeting on the 29th, Jeremic can throw out any question he wants but majority will not respond to it. They have prepared their responses far in advance. As we know it does not matter the weight of the UNSC as far as Kosovo goes it is NO Decisions, As long as there is a veto power nothing will be settled there.
Also note the UNSG report, where he says each side must refrain from unilateral moves, but stops short of saying Kosovo was in violation of anything.

This meeting is of massive importance !!
As you know, the UNSC consists of the five permanent member states US, Russia, China, GB and France of which Russia and China says clearly NO to the K Albanians unlawful move.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Assuming they think what you say, it is immaterial; there are other countries which may think differently… What matters is what the Security Council says.



The rest of the council that says NO are Brazil, Bosnia and Herzegovina, India, South Africa, Lebanon, Gabon and Nigeria. Further, Germany, Colombia and Portugal says yes. That makes 9 no and 6 yes.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Assuming they think what you say, it is immaterial again; there are other countries which may think differently… What matters is what the Security Council says.



It will be very interresting. FM Jeremic´s question; "whether the international community thinks it is recommended and desirable to use physical violence in order to achieve political goals in Kosovo?".

Give it a couple of seconds and read the question again....
Do some of the readers here, even in their wildest imagination, think the answer is yes?
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Of course not… That’s why it is stupid question. No need to waste time twice...




Because if you answer yes on the question, no one have to comply to UNSC res 1244 that clearly says by other things that Kosovos status will be decided..........
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Kosovo’ UDI was in accordance with 1244. If you wish, you can continue to discuss at eternity about the status with whoever has time to speak with you.



The K Albanians have made a UDI that is NOT ratified in the UNSC and therefore the proclamation of independence is null and void.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

What is the law and the article please that requires UDI’s to be ratified by the UNSC ? Actually it is the opposite, because under the terms of 1244 the UNSC did not reserve for itself the final determination of the situation in Kosovo.


The only one to decide for the moment is UN via Unmik via 1244 (via Eulex who works under resolution 1244).
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Sure and on the same time all the decisions taken in accordance with the UDI are also legal because the UDI was legal (the law of reference being the international law; of course the UDI violated Serbia’s law).



Complicated. You bet it is, but it is how it is whether you like it or not.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Of course the Albanians in Kosovo like it to the point that they included 1244 in their UDI and Constitution. Not sure what non-Albanians think though…



I think (know) that the K Albanians and their supporters are very nervous about this meeting for a real backdraft. Thaci seems self-confident in the K Albanian press but he is full of fear, stress and doubtfullness. It could be that he will try again to save himself.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

I don’t think so… Most of Albanians probably don’t even know (or care) that there is such a meeting where somebody will read a report, some others will make some statements and then everybody will go for a drink to a Manhattan bar :)



Therefore I will give some advice to the Serbs up north;

BE PREPARED to hit back with full force 24/7 if needed with blockings etc. But do not make the first blood if attacked!! Remember, you have all the rights in the world to defend yourself with the same force you are attacked with according to 1244 (I.e that the Kosovo issue is not solved and can only be solved through UN and UNSC.)
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Yes, but according to 1244 KFOR should ensure the freedom of movement. So if Serbs do what you are saying and don’t obey KFOR to restore the freedom of movement they will be violating 1244.


The Kfor soldiers up in the north from US, Slovenia, Poland etc are ordinary farmerboys, teachers, sportsmen, salesmen etc that does not all agree with the K Albanian gangster regime in Pristina and certainly want to come home to their mother, girlfriend or wife after their mission alive.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

What they agree or don’t agree is irrelevant. They are paid to follow orders. And not sure what "alive" has to do with anything. Nobody has threatened to kill them because everybody supports 1244. The US ones are actually lucky serving in Kosovo; otherwise they would be in Afghanistan...


We will see.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)

Yep, let us know what you’ll see…

Loyal Albanian 41°52′55″N 87°37′40″W, 12 August 2011 21:39)

Before you and agim hit that pipe again-please explain albanian eu values as you see it...is in it truth that albanians are kidnaping their own kids and selling them on eu markets like a sack of potatoes,is in it truth that that kfor closed a medical clinic in prishtina for illegal organ trade(this was just a year ago),is in it truth that albanians stone every car or a bus with minority visiting graves of relatives..
Albanians would not know the truth if it hits them in the face time after time..and values albanian way we so know well...so stop smoking and get a grip on reality..eu hates you more than we do..but they have to protect bundsteel..

This meeting is of massive importance !!
As you know, the UNSC consists of the five permanent member states US, Russia, China, GB and France of which Russia and China says clearly NO to the K Albanians unlawful move.
The rest of the council that says NO are Brazil, Bosnia and Herzegovina, India, South Africa, Lebanon, Gabon and Nigeria. Further, Germany, Colombia and Portugal says yes. That makes 9 no and 6 yes.

It will be very interresting. FM Jeremic´s question; "whether the international community thinks it is recommended and desirable to use physical violence in order to achieve political goals in Kosovo?".

Give it a couple of seconds and read the question again....
Do some of the readers here, even in their wildest imagination, think the answer is yes?

Because if you do, I say to Serbia; Roll down your tanks to the boundary. Send your special police SAJ, Gendarmerie, VJ etc to Mitrovica north and block the bridges; main bridge, east bridge and small bridge by Suvi Do.
Because if you answer yes on the question, no one have to comply to UNSC res 1244 that clearly says by other things that Kosovos status will be decided..........

The K Albanians have made a UDI that is NOT ratified in the UNSC and therefore the proclamation of independence is null and void.
The only one to decide for the moment is UN via Unmik via 1244 (via Eulex who works under resolution 1244).
Complicated. You bet it is, but it is how it is whether you like it or not.
I think (know) that the K Albanians and their supporters are very nervous about this meeting for a real backdraft. Thaci seems self-confident in the K Albanian press but he is full of fear, stress and doubtfullness. It could be that he will try again to save himself.
Therefore I will give some advice to the Serbs up north;

BE PREPARED to hit back with full force 24/7 if needed with blockings etc. But do not make the first blood if attacked!! Remember, you have all the rights in the world to defend yourself with the same force you are attacked with according to 1244 (I.e that the Kosovo issue is not solved and can only be solved through UN and UNSC.)
The Kfor soldiers up in the north from US, Slovenia, Poland etc are ordinary farmerboys, teachers, sportsmen, salesmen etc that does not all agree with the K Albanian gangster regime in Pristina and certainly want to come home to their mother, girlfriend or wife after their mission alive.
We will see.

BE PREPARED to hit back with full force 24/7 if needed with blockings etc. But do not make the first blood if attacked!! Remember, you have all the rights in the world to defend yourself with the same force you are attacked with according to 1244 (I.e that the Kosovo issue is not solved and can only be solved through UN and UNSC.)
The Kfor soldiers up in the north from US, Slovenia, Poland etc are ordinary farmerboys, teachers, sportsmen, salesmen etc that does not all agree with the K Albanian gangster regime in Pristina and certainly want to come home to their mother, girlfriend or wife after their mission alive.
We will see.
(Staff, 12 August 2011 22:23)
Now we know you got your name as part of the Milosevic staff. Just as you have numerous times been wrong as he was when he dared NATO thinking it was a bluff.

The albanians should go for a partition of Kossovo or they will lose all that they have supposedly gained. The world is in financial crisis and the people in other countries will be up in arms if their governments want to back the albanians and force aggression. It's not a matter of liking one side or the other, it's about money. Look at London, you think they will jump into a war while poor people are tering up their streets, i think not. Same way in the U.S., we're broke, no jobs, nothing, the hell with being the worlds policeman! People are pissed to say the least!

@Grunt:

Seeing how you have "heat" for Albanian people the situation(if you will) is like this...

When I viewed random "stuff" on the internet I somehow came across something concerning the Albanian TV of America and where I stumbled upon a video featuring the 'Albanian Bad Boy' saying " I am Albanian Bad Boy.I want you to support Albanian TV of America.If you don't you'll get this."(A punch from what he demonstrated wearing a boxing glove) where my honest reaction was laughter.

Even though Grunt I'm under the impression that that will fuel your criticism of Albanians and even if I agree that it's an unusual publicity or PR(public relations) promotion on the part of Albanian TV of America,personally,as indicated it's humorous,for that matter the Albanian Bad Boy must be joking and the Albanian Bad Boy is just a young kid.However,though I have nothing against this kid and though I never opposed Kosovars who favor independence, I will freely admit that if there was a commercial produced that favors Kosovo's sovereignty that it wouldn't be right if the commercial featured someone saying words to the effect that 'if you don't support Kosovo's sovereignty you'll receive a punch.'

To give some of you a better understanding of Albanian TV of America and if I gathered the facts correctly it's a network or specialty network based or located in the state of Michigan and possibly the city of Detroit whose purpose is to service the needs of the Albanian-American community( I'm not certain if it only services the needs of Albanian communities in Michigan or other parts of United States as well) and finally with regards to the 'Albanian Bad Boy', who he is is a born and raised American youngster who has direct Albanian background ( the little dude seems proud of his Albanian heritage) and is somewhat famous for his boxing abilities or his ability to dodge a punch or blow from an opponent who I'm certain won't punch him for real since he's only a kid.

BONDSTILL (the biggest NATO base in Europe,buid from concrit,is that temporary for you ???)
please don't be naive,please.
(kosovac, 12 August 2011 23:33)
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Never seen Camp Bonsteel have you???? There are some concrete bunkers other than that:
The camp is built mainly of wooden, semi permanent SEA (South East Asia) huts and is surrounded by a 2.5 m (8.2 ft) high earthen wall. All the buildings are wood, the sleeping quarters are the individual housing units that are flown in and can be dismantled and moved there are afew tin buildings and the helicopter units are canvas. Not sure what "concrit" is but these are temporary structures. There was the dilemna a fews back due to the rains kept washing away the gravel roads that were present so they paved them since it would be cheaper than to regravel every few months.

1)Amerika (western Europe,NATO,the same thing,isnt?)hade strategic target to bring they army in that part of Europe, proof ?o.k
- BONDSTILL (the biggest NATO base in Europe,buid from concrit,is that temporary for you ???)

2)Economic reasons,proof?o.k
Resourses of black granite,biggest in Europe,(do i have to tell importance of that?)Kosovo was produce electricity ,ehough for about 35%of Europe,second biggest factory (FERONIKL)for the most important material in macro idustry....
(kosovac, 12 August 2011 23:33)

God, NATO is present in a handful of countries in the region. This Kosovo is totally unimportant. NATO prefers to be in a stable countries, and not in some troublezone. Bondsteel is called a 'camp', and that's what it is, i.e. more like a camping place than a base. Maybe check out about some real NATO bases in Europe (Germany, Italy...).

Kosovo and was producing 35% of European electricity? With these ancient two plants in Obilic, which are not even producing enough energy to supply Kosovo itself so it has to import power from Serbia? The laugh of the day. Face it: Kosovo is a black hole, small and unimportant, it has been the poorest region in EX-YU, and now is the poorest region in Europe.

@ Loyal Albanian...
You been sayng here same truth !But SELECTIVE TRUTH ,so let me explaine or even remaind uabout the routs of all of this:
1)Amerika (western Europe,NATO,the same thing,isnt?)hade strategic target to bring they army in that part of Europe, proof ?o.k
- BONDSTILL (the biggest NATO base in Europe,buid from concrit,is that temporary for you ???)
2)Economic reasons,proof?o.k
Resourses of black granite,biggest in Europe,(do i have to tell importance of that?)Kosovo was produce electricity ,ehough for about 35%of Europe,second biggest factory (FERONIKL)for the most important material in macro idustry....
obviously is not just this two reasons,there is many more,but if you want to achiev this you must brake the strong-one,agree? at the time(even now)Serbia was the strongest,and in the end do you really think Europe support Albanians because they like them,please don't be naive,please.

Three members of UN Security Council are on Kosovo's side. So, Serbs again lose.

@ Kosovac & Loyal Albanian:

I could be mistaken but I'm assuming that you (Kosovac) are Albanian as well so therefore since you both have differing beliefs or opinions with one another, may I suggest that you both consider having a constructive or amicable dialogue with one another. Like I said it's only a suggestion.
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 14 August 2011 17:31)
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Thank's for you suggestion!
Iam not Albanian,and if you was reading all my comments you will realise that,but anyway ,i think ,i realy do,you are right,just time will tell uss everythink.

"Albanians are supporters of Democracy, European values and everything America and Europe stand for. "
(Loyal Albanian 41°52′55″N 87°37′40″W, 12 August 2011 21:39)

I would like to believe your words, but you guys in Kosovo had the chance to prove your democratic standards and European values during the last self-organized Kosovo elections. Unfortunately, you failed miserably. With all the blatant faking, manipulation, voter intimidation and bought votes you fulfilled only Afghan standards, sorry.

@Staff:

Even if you and certain other b92 viewers are uninterested or will dislike what I have to type and that would be that in my opinion when it comes to nations that don't recognize Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence and disagree with nations who recognize Kosovo's sovereignty that it's their opinion that Kosovo shouldn't secede from Serbia but it's also their problem if they're unhappy with nations that recognize Kosovo's status as essentially being a foreign country.

God, NATO is present in a handful of countries in the region. This Kosovo is totally unimportant. NATO prefers to be in a stable countries, and not in some troublezone. Bondsteel is called a 'camp', and that's what it is, i.e. more like a camping place than a base. Maybe check out about some real NATO bases in Europe (Germany, Italy...).

Kosovo and was producing 35% of European electricity? With these ancient two plants in Obilic, which are not even producing enough energy to supply Kosovo itself so it has to import power from Serbia? The laugh of the day. Face it: Kosovo is a black hole, small and unimportant, it has been the poorest region in EX-YU, and now is the poorest region in Europe.
(Top, 13 August 2011 14:33)
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Yor comments is based on your personal guesing,mine on oficial statistic,;not one other country around Kosovo got NATO base !o.k i didn't know NATO just,, camping, ,in their(still the biggest)CAMP BONSTEEL!Maybe they build that camp(concrit no tents)for barbecue,music excitement etc..
Kosovo don't produce enought power?that is just luck of knoledge !Bernard Kushner(ex UMNIK chef)publicly admit,about this! So before u demand anything ,please,inform u self then write here!

Never seen Camp Bonsteel have you???? There are some concrete bunkers other than that:..
(pss August 14 2:22)
I have seen ,on T.V(when Klinton vizited them)Albanian T.V !with the volumen on!what mean ,,some bunkers,,semi permanent,,and other noncence u wrote here?You givin us information like u been staying there!(you said never seen).I know so many Albanians are allready upset about Americans being so long there,mix race kids is just one of unexceptable truth ,but this is only a begining of paying the price ,just wait and you will regret about that,or maybe u do.

"Albanians are supporters of Democracy, European values and everything America and Europe stand for. "
(Loyal Albanian 41°52′55″N 87°37′40″W, 12 August 2011 21:39)

Noone of the crime since 1999,been uncovered(European value?)killing children,kidnaping inocent people,burning centuries old churches(European value?)suplying Europe with human organs,class A drugs,etc..Sorry ,my very Loyal Albanian,i am living in Europe(U.K)and i NEVER heard of this kind of value,i will try to find out, i PROMISE !

@ Kosovac & Loyal Albanian:

I could be mistaken but I'm assuming that you (Kosovac) are Albanian as well so therefore since you both have differing beliefs or opinions with one another, may I suggest that you both consider having a constructive or amicable dialogue with one another. Like I said it's only a suggestion.