"Serbia will fight 'EU or Kosovo' dilemma"

A small place like Kosovo could pretty much ignite a new balkan war or even a world war. This is what happens when there is no negotiated solution to the problem.

Are you kidding? EU or Kosovo dilemma? There is no dilemma, it's Kosovo all the way!

"The Government of Kosovo has to hold back on the instructions to help Tadic. This has been the case in the last 12 years."

Toni_UK

That is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Why help Tadic when he is agianst and independent Kosovo as well. Try to take the north over and see what happens. You have a big mouth but when it comes to the real thing you run. What about the 3 mile zone surrounding Kosovo? Serbia retook it in 2 minutes. Where was the uck who swore to protect it?

i think that Serb nationalist are smart enogh not to come in power.
they only give themselves the privelege to bark and make empty threats.
everybody got used to these tactiks.
last time they were in power,Serbia got sanctioned and bombed.
but still,we talking about Serbia,not really smart things coming from there.

A small place like Kosovo could pretty much ignite a new balkan war or even a world war."

Really? Who's going to do the fighting, tell us

Because of all of this not even 10% of the citizens will suport Serbia joining EU. Radical parties will get stronger, instability in this region will rise...

People need to think before they act.

Declared Nationalist in Serbia such as SNS, DSS, Radicals winnig elections in Serbia would suet the Government in Pristina perfectly fine.

In this case, no one would hold them back to in few hours take 100% control of what it is smaller than a football stadium northern part of a small town called Mitrovica.


55 000 live there, that's all, you keep forgetting that. Keep in mind of them there are many non-serbians, and many serbians who have same stance as other serbians living in the rest of Kosovo.


We are talking of few gangs that with Tadic losing power, would cut and run.


The Government of Kosovo has to hold back on the instructions to help Tadic. This has been the case in the last 12 years.


Havin said that, all serbian political parties in Serbia but LDP are nationalistic, everybody knows that.

Make the choice even simpler for Brussels. Do they want serbs or albanians in 'Europe'. The latter they have been deporting back home in large numbers. Spot the disconnect.

@ (Hank the Tank, 12 August 2011, 16:39)
You are absolutely right! Though when negotiations are being rigged or corrupted by external powers it could just as well lead to the same. Let it be a warning to those who think that extortion will bring them anything in the long run. They will lose it all again, if not achieved in true agreement.

@ (Guest, 12 August 2011, 16:37)
How did you think an ambassador (or even a government) decides the outcome of an election? This man is just warning the EU that their actions, in the case that they will not be impartial or just, it can have consequences on election results in Serbia. Pretty much a no-brainer to most how still know how to use those.

"When asked about comments that European politicians were worried to a certain extent about the possibility that nationalist parties could win the next elections, he said that nobody could predict the outcome of any country’s elections, but that the events regarding Kosovo and the EU could affect it, adding that he hoped that western politicians were aware of that. "

Ohhhh, look at this. I will translate it: "If you don't us grant SAA, we will vote for Nationalist parties."

Well, if this is your desire, feel free to vote those parties. You will see which "prosperity" they will bring and far they can come with their demands. Give them a turn and I'm sure you will hate each day. Promised.

Hello to everyone here! I am back in here after long holidays in Albania and Kosovo. What did the ambassador say?

“I am not naive. I understand what is officially said and that, on the other hand, some people in powerful countries think that it could become a condition,”. Is he NOT SMELLING THE COFFEE? Europe doesn't want another Cyprus in its ranks. Without recognising Kosovo independence first there would no place for Serbia in the EU.

(crime.inc, 12 August 2011 17:05)

I'm not questioning that there is a chance that nationalists might win the next election. This is potentially possible, just as it is potentially possible that after that the VISA Free Regime with Serbia will be suspended. You see "possibilities" work in two directions and I promise you that those right-wing rat catchers cannot do anything better. They can make it only worse.

'EU or Kosovo' dilemma doesn't exist; dilemma is EU or NOTHING!!!

It always amazes me to hear some of those commenting about threatening to bring nationalists to power in Serbia. Other than Serbs, nobody really cares. In fact, the EU is already raising the bar to make it difficult for Serbia to qualify for candidate status. So, go ahead and make their day, the Serbs would be doing the EU a big favor by electing nationalists to power.

EU or Kosovo dilemma? There is no dilemma, it's Kosovo all the way!
(Dragan, 12 August 2011 18:28)

Kosova is gone Dragan, long time ago!
Keep up that attitude and I will assure you that you will lose EU too.

Serbs have completed all the set requirements so far, including the capture and extradition of all Hague indictees....what the hell else do you want? Kosovo? Because I can promise you that won't happen.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Of course that will not happen… How can they want from Serbia something that Serbia no longer has ?!



Kosovo - the albanians started a war for independence, and they had their arses handed to them, so they claimed that millions of albanians were being slaughtered and NATO came and tried to bomb Serbs out of existence.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

NATO did not try to bomb Serbs out of the existence; if it had, Serbs would not have existed now. NATO just wanted the Serbian forces out of Kosovo. Once that was achieved, the bombing stopped.



From being ruled by the Ottoman Empire, through to countless wars including WWI and WWII, the balkan wars and just about every other war we always came out of it. Serbs always came out, we might have been the victims of mass genocide, but no matter what happened we always came out, because we are united. Believe it or not, thats what keeps us going.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Good for you



Serbs might not have the most glorious history and some like 'danillo' might find us yugoslavs as a lower race, but by god we are still here and we always will be, we are proud of who we were and what we are.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Also proud about the genocide Serbs have committed against others (as certified in Court) ?!



We will always survive anything they can throw at us,
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

If you deal with the things thrown from within, you’d survive better. Whining of being victimized by others will not bring you very far.





One day the EU, as bankrupt financially and morally as it is, will collapse.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Sure, it’s been said for years in these forums… but that better happen fast because we don’t have 100 years or more to live Also, before speaking about EU’s moral, let’s get Serbia’s moral in order with a good portion of its former political and military leadership accused or convicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity.



They know that the US will no longer be the global power house it once was, and they can try their very best to try and stay afloat, to vein some sort of power and respect, but the EU will collapse. And when they do and the proverbial stuff hits the fans, the Serbs will still come out of it, strong and proud.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Not sure I understand how Serbs coming out has anything to do with an imaginary EU collapse especially with the poor Serbia (and some other Balkans countries) remaining afloat with the help of EU’s money

Dude, this was a very passionate article, which is good for you However, passion does not (and should not) have place in driving decision-making. Otherwise those decisions will be wrong.

power in Serbia. Other than Serbs, nobody really cares. In fact, the EU is already raising the bar to make it difficult for Serbia to qualify for candidate status. So, go ahead and make their day, the Serbs would be doing the EU a big favor by electing nationalists to power.
(Jacob Wasserman, 13 August 2011 06:29)

This statement about nationalists being brought to power is only used by the current western groveling regime that is a spent force and have shown they are totally useless. They have had several goes in government and little has changed for Serbs.
The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo. That’s one he cannot deliver and now his people making vague comments that if “you in the west don’t support us the nationalists will come to power.
I am always amazed that there are still so many who believe in the EU wonderland where everyone is rich and happy and those outside are the complete opposite.
What benefit has Romania or Bulgaria had since joining the EU? NOTHING except constant BS about how their lives have improved since that date. Unfortunately for the western bozos this propaganda only lasts a short time while people patiently wait for better days, but nothing has happened and now even the people in those countries see the EU for what it really is.
In any case what will; the EU do if the nationalists do come to power? NOTHING.
The EU is so full of these countries with their hands out for a Euro or two that its creaking at the seams to breaking point. That is the reason why it’s looking at “raising the bar” to avoid any further entry.
Are you living on an island where communications are a problem? Are you aware that even France is now on the list of problem children of the EU?

Always funny these Serbs, talking about EU collapse, bankrupt USA, France and so on. What happened: The USA got the AAA removed, downgraded to AA+, because of having too much debt and political fights blocking a serious budget consolidation.

Did you ever check what rating the 'strong and proud' Serbia has? I can tell you: It's BB, recently upgraded from BB-.

The comments regarding this upgrade: "The ratings agency said it could also upgrade further if Serbia were to make meaningful progress in strengthening its institutions, and accelerating EU integration. However, ratings could come under downward pressure if political maneuvering before the parliamentary elections, or a post-electoral policy shift, caused a backtracking from fiscal targets."

Maybe some reality check is needed to see that Serbia is not so powerful, and the population is only doing fine compared to candidates like Bosnia, Albania, and, beware, Kosovo.


About the benefits of the EU, you better ask your 'Slavic Brothers' in Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic and Poland than people in Romania and Bulgaria.

EU is already raising the bar to make it difficult for Serbia to qualify for candidate status.
(Jacob Wasserman, 13 August 2011 06:29)

Well we cant do nothing about that, Serbia cant recognize Kosovo stamps, because goverment will go down. So EU politicians are not rasing the bar they put ''Berlin wall'' betwen EU and Serbia, and i am not sure they realize this. There is absolutely no way to force Serbia to recognize Kosovo not even with bombs.

The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo.
(sj, 13 August 2011 13:28)
Certainly even you see the problem with your post. Serbia should have not handed over "war criminals" unless it benefitted them? Kind of makes it difficult for you to judge others morals
(pss, 13 August 2011 16:52)

I have seen your US morals at work very close, especially in Indo China so I’d say I’m an expert in that arena. Just because the United States of Windbags declares you a war criminal does not mean that declaration comes from God as you people seem to think.
My point was to show that Tadic who is a western crawler was promised the world but now has nothing to show for so called handing these people over – no a blessed thing. You see the EU promised him the door would be open if he handed over Mladic and Hadjic and low and behold nothing has happened.
That was my point not a discussion on morality. But I hear another 5 US troops were blown to pieces in Afghanistan – that is the only morality the US understands.


Sorry, but handing them over was not a matter of negotiation or quid pro quo. That was Serbia's (and everybody's else) obligation as decided by the UNSC in Resolution 827.
(icj1, 13 August 2011 14:57)

Un resolutions are like a nicely decorated plate of food – you can decided what you want to eat on the plate while the rest you can throw away. Look at how many resolutions the US has ignored over the years so don’t get on your high horse and talk about obligations.
Obligations and morality are displayed by leadership not by do as I say not as I do. The US can murder at will but we call it democracy and freedom while if you defend yourself then you are a criminal. When the west decides to adhere to UN resolutions then come to my doors and talk about what I should do.

Really? Who's going to do the fighting, tell us
(Justice, 12 August 2011 17:25)

The Albos will be too busy running away or selling drugs or trying to harvest organs and they’ll expect NATO to do their fighting as in the past.
The problem now is that NATO is not the same organization as in the 1990s. Failed wars in Afghnaistan and now Libya has manifestly changed that organization and its reconfiguration is only being halted by the US as its living in the glorious past of when NATO was, on paper at least, a power to contend with.
It’s amazing how you Albanians always look to others to do your fighting just like the Croats – always looking to mummy and her apron.
Anyway if you look at the EU they are returning a large number of Albanians back to Kosovo and Albania but I don’t see these governments doing the same with the Serbs LOL, LOL and these EU governments are your allies LOl, LOL

"Serbia will fight 'EU or Kosovo' dilemma"

What is this guy speaking about ?... Like if Serbia does not choose the EU, then it will get Kosovo back. Dude, it's either EU and no Kosovo or no EU and no Kosovo.

The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo.
(sj, 13 August 2011 13:28)

Sorry, but handing them over was not a matter of negotiation or quid pro quo. That was Serbia's (and everybody's else) obligation as decided by the UNSC in Resolution 827.

European politicians were worried to a certain extent about the possibility that nationalist parties could win the next elections, he said that nobody could predict the outcome of any country’s elections

So under the democratic form of governing that the EU swears by, elections are held with which political leaders are established through the process of voting by people in a way that it fairly represents their interests, on a national scale. Given this, WHAT THE HELL are the EU morons on about?

Scared of whos going to be elected? Well fudge me, last time I checked the citizens voted for those that best represented their interests. So if the citizens are sick of having the current government drop everything and invest everything in jumping a never ending circuit of hoops to join the EU then of course they're going to end up voting for the parties that see the fad that the EU is.

Serbs have completed all the set requirements so far, including the capture and extradition of all Hague indictees....what the hell else do you want? Kosovo? Because I can promise you that won't happen.

Kosovo - the albanians started a war for independence, and they had their arses handed to them, so they claimed that millions of albanians were being slaughtered and NATO came and tried to bomb Serbs out of existence.

From being ruled by the Ottoman Empire, through to countless wars including WWI and WWII, the balkan wars and just about every other war we always came out of it. Serbs always came out, we might have been the victims of mass genocide, but no matter what happened we always came out, because we are united. Believe it or not, thats what keeps us going. Serbs might not have the most glorious history and some like 'danillo' might find us yugoslavs as a lower race, but by god we are still here and we always will be, we are proud of who we were and what we are. We will always survive anything they can throw at us, as we did in the past, because we cherish our victories, but also our defeats, we honour our dead and we pass on the memory of them and what they faught for, the fight for Serbia and Serbs.

One day the EU, as bankrupt financially and morally as it is, will collapse. They know that the US will no longer be the global power house it once was, and they can try their very best to try and stay afloat, to vein some sort of power and respect, but the EU will collapse. And when they do and the proverbial stuff hits the fans, the Serbs will still come out of it, strong and proud.


CCCC

The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo.
(sj, 13 August 2011 13:28)
Certainly even you see the problem with your post. Serbia should have not handed over "war criminals" unless it benefitted them? Kind of makes it difficult for you to judge others morals

i think that Serb nationalist are smart enogh not to come in power.
they only give themselves the privelege to bark and make empty threats.
everybody got used to these tactiks.
last time they were in power,Serbia got sanctioned and bombed.
but still,we talking about Serbia,not really smart things coming from there.

"When asked about comments that European politicians were worried to a certain extent about the possibility that nationalist parties could win the next elections, he said that nobody could predict the outcome of any country’s elections, but that the events regarding Kosovo and the EU could affect it, adding that he hoped that western politicians were aware of that. "

Ohhhh, look at this. I will translate it: "If you don't us grant SAA, we will vote for Nationalist parties."

Well, if this is your desire, feel free to vote those parties. You will see which "prosperity" they will bring and far they can come with their demands. Give them a turn and I'm sure you will hate each day. Promised.

Hello to everyone here! I am back in here after long holidays in Albania and Kosovo. What did the ambassador say?

“I am not naive. I understand what is officially said and that, on the other hand, some people in powerful countries think that it could become a condition,”. Is he NOT SMELLING THE COFFEE? Europe doesn't want another Cyprus in its ranks. Without recognising Kosovo independence first there would no place for Serbia in the EU.

Declared Nationalist in Serbia such as SNS, DSS, Radicals winnig elections in Serbia would suet the Government in Pristina perfectly fine.

In this case, no one would hold them back to in few hours take 100% control of what it is smaller than a football stadium northern part of a small town called Mitrovica.


55 000 live there, that's all, you keep forgetting that. Keep in mind of them there are many non-serbians, and many serbians who have same stance as other serbians living in the rest of Kosovo.


We are talking of few gangs that with Tadic losing power, would cut and run.


The Government of Kosovo has to hold back on the instructions to help Tadic. This has been the case in the last 12 years.


Havin said that, all serbian political parties in Serbia but LDP are nationalistic, everybody knows that.

Are you kidding? EU or Kosovo dilemma? There is no dilemma, it's Kosovo all the way!

"The Government of Kosovo has to hold back on the instructions to help Tadic. This has been the case in the last 12 years."

Toni_UK

That is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Why help Tadic when he is agianst and independent Kosovo as well. Try to take the north over and see what happens. You have a big mouth but when it comes to the real thing you run. What about the 3 mile zone surrounding Kosovo? Serbia retook it in 2 minutes. Where was the uck who swore to protect it?

A small place like Kosovo could pretty much ignite a new balkan war or even a world war. This is what happens when there is no negotiated solution to the problem.

(crime.inc, 12 August 2011 17:05)

I'm not questioning that there is a chance that nationalists might win the next election. This is potentially possible, just as it is potentially possible that after that the VISA Free Regime with Serbia will be suspended. You see "possibilities" work in two directions and I promise you that those right-wing rat catchers cannot do anything better. They can make it only worse.

Make the choice even simpler for Brussels. Do they want serbs or albanians in 'Europe'. The latter they have been deporting back home in large numbers. Spot the disconnect.

@ (Hank the Tank, 12 August 2011, 16:39)
You are absolutely right! Though when negotiations are being rigged or corrupted by external powers it could just as well lead to the same. Let it be a warning to those who think that extortion will bring them anything in the long run. They will lose it all again, if not achieved in true agreement.

@ (Guest, 12 August 2011, 16:37)
How did you think an ambassador (or even a government) decides the outcome of an election? This man is just warning the EU that their actions, in the case that they will not be impartial or just, it can have consequences on election results in Serbia. Pretty much a no-brainer to most how still know how to use those.

A small place like Kosovo could pretty much ignite a new balkan war or even a world war."

Really? Who's going to do the fighting, tell us

Because of all of this not even 10% of the citizens will suport Serbia joining EU. Radical parties will get stronger, instability in this region will rise...

People need to think before they act.

European politicians were worried to a certain extent about the possibility that nationalist parties could win the next elections, he said that nobody could predict the outcome of any country’s elections

So under the democratic form of governing that the EU swears by, elections are held with which political leaders are established through the process of voting by people in a way that it fairly represents their interests, on a national scale. Given this, WHAT THE HELL are the EU morons on about?

Scared of whos going to be elected? Well fudge me, last time I checked the citizens voted for those that best represented their interests. So if the citizens are sick of having the current government drop everything and invest everything in jumping a never ending circuit of hoops to join the EU then of course they're going to end up voting for the parties that see the fad that the EU is.

Serbs have completed all the set requirements so far, including the capture and extradition of all Hague indictees....what the hell else do you want? Kosovo? Because I can promise you that won't happen.

Kosovo - the albanians started a war for independence, and they had their arses handed to them, so they claimed that millions of albanians were being slaughtered and NATO came and tried to bomb Serbs out of existence.

From being ruled by the Ottoman Empire, through to countless wars including WWI and WWII, the balkan wars and just about every other war we always came out of it. Serbs always came out, we might have been the victims of mass genocide, but no matter what happened we always came out, because we are united. Believe it or not, thats what keeps us going. Serbs might not have the most glorious history and some like 'danillo' might find us yugoslavs as a lower race, but by god we are still here and we always will be, we are proud of who we were and what we are. We will always survive anything they can throw at us, as we did in the past, because we cherish our victories, but also our defeats, we honour our dead and we pass on the memory of them and what they faught for, the fight for Serbia and Serbs.

One day the EU, as bankrupt financially and morally as it is, will collapse. They know that the US will no longer be the global power house it once was, and they can try their very best to try and stay afloat, to vein some sort of power and respect, but the EU will collapse. And when they do and the proverbial stuff hits the fans, the Serbs will still come out of it, strong and proud.


CCCC

Always funny these Serbs, talking about EU collapse, bankrupt USA, France and so on. What happened: The USA got the AAA removed, downgraded to AA+, because of having too much debt and political fights blocking a serious budget consolidation.

Did you ever check what rating the 'strong and proud' Serbia has? I can tell you: It's BB, recently upgraded from BB-.

The comments regarding this upgrade: "The ratings agency said it could also upgrade further if Serbia were to make meaningful progress in strengthening its institutions, and accelerating EU integration. However, ratings could come under downward pressure if political maneuvering before the parliamentary elections, or a post-electoral policy shift, caused a backtracking from fiscal targets."

Maybe some reality check is needed to see that Serbia is not so powerful, and the population is only doing fine compared to candidates like Bosnia, Albania, and, beware, Kosovo.


About the benefits of the EU, you better ask your 'Slavic Brothers' in Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic and Poland than people in Romania and Bulgaria.

The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo.
(sj, 13 August 2011 13:28)

Sorry, but handing them over was not a matter of negotiation or quid pro quo. That was Serbia's (and everybody's else) obligation as decided by the UNSC in Resolution 827.

Really? Who's going to do the fighting, tell us
(Justice, 12 August 2011 17:25)

The Albos will be too busy running away or selling drugs or trying to harvest organs and they’ll expect NATO to do their fighting as in the past.
The problem now is that NATO is not the same organization as in the 1990s. Failed wars in Afghnaistan and now Libya has manifestly changed that organization and its reconfiguration is only being halted by the US as its living in the glorious past of when NATO was, on paper at least, a power to contend with.
It’s amazing how you Albanians always look to others to do your fighting just like the Croats – always looking to mummy and her apron.
Anyway if you look at the EU they are returning a large number of Albanians back to Kosovo and Albania but I don’t see these governments doing the same with the Serbs LOL, LOL and these EU governments are your allies LOl, LOL

Serbs have completed all the set requirements so far, including the capture and extradition of all Hague indictees....what the hell else do you want? Kosovo? Because I can promise you that won't happen.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Of course that will not happen… How can they want from Serbia something that Serbia no longer has ?!



Kosovo - the albanians started a war for independence, and they had their arses handed to them, so they claimed that millions of albanians were being slaughtered and NATO came and tried to bomb Serbs out of existence.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

NATO did not try to bomb Serbs out of the existence; if it had, Serbs would not have existed now. NATO just wanted the Serbian forces out of Kosovo. Once that was achieved, the bombing stopped.



From being ruled by the Ottoman Empire, through to countless wars including WWI and WWII, the balkan wars and just about every other war we always came out of it. Serbs always came out, we might have been the victims of mass genocide, but no matter what happened we always came out, because we are united. Believe it or not, thats what keeps us going.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Good for you



Serbs might not have the most glorious history and some like 'danillo' might find us yugoslavs as a lower race, but by god we are still here and we always will be, we are proud of who we were and what we are.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Also proud about the genocide Serbs have committed against others (as certified in Court) ?!



We will always survive anything they can throw at us,
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

If you deal with the things thrown from within, you’d survive better. Whining of being victimized by others will not bring you very far.





One day the EU, as bankrupt financially and morally as it is, will collapse.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Sure, it’s been said for years in these forums… but that better happen fast because we don’t have 100 years or more to live Also, before speaking about EU’s moral, let’s get Serbia’s moral in order with a good portion of its former political and military leadership accused or convicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity.



They know that the US will no longer be the global power house it once was, and they can try their very best to try and stay afloat, to vein some sort of power and respect, but the EU will collapse. And when they do and the proverbial stuff hits the fans, the Serbs will still come out of it, strong and proud.
(Goran., 13 August 2011 04:03)

Not sure I understand how Serbs coming out has anything to do with an imaginary EU collapse especially with the poor Serbia (and some other Balkans countries) remaining afloat with the help of EU’s money

Dude, this was a very passionate article, which is good for you However, passion does not (and should not) have place in driving decision-making. Otherwise those decisions will be wrong.

The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo.
(sj, 13 August 2011 13:28)
Certainly even you see the problem with your post. Serbia should have not handed over "war criminals" unless it benefitted them? Kind of makes it difficult for you to judge others morals

power in Serbia. Other than Serbs, nobody really cares. In fact, the EU is already raising the bar to make it difficult for Serbia to qualify for candidate status. So, go ahead and make their day, the Serbs would be doing the EU a big favor by electing nationalists to power.
(Jacob Wasserman, 13 August 2011 06:29)

This statement about nationalists being brought to power is only used by the current western groveling regime that is a spent force and have shown they are totally useless. They have had several goes in government and little has changed for Serbs.
The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo. That’s one he cannot deliver and now his people making vague comments that if “you in the west don’t support us the nationalists will come to power.
I am always amazed that there are still so many who believe in the EU wonderland where everyone is rich and happy and those outside are the complete opposite.
What benefit has Romania or Bulgaria had since joining the EU? NOTHING except constant BS about how their lives have improved since that date. Unfortunately for the western bozos this propaganda only lasts a short time while people patiently wait for better days, but nothing has happened and now even the people in those countries see the EU for what it really is.
In any case what will; the EU do if the nationalists do come to power? NOTHING.
The EU is so full of these countries with their hands out for a Euro or two that its creaking at the seams to breaking point. That is the reason why it’s looking at “raising the bar” to avoid any further entry.
Are you living on an island where communications are a problem? Are you aware that even France is now on the list of problem children of the EU?

"Serbia will fight 'EU or Kosovo' dilemma"

What is this guy speaking about ?... Like if Serbia does not choose the EU, then it will get Kosovo back. Dude, it's either EU and no Kosovo or no EU and no Kosovo.

EU or Kosovo dilemma? There is no dilemma, it's Kosovo all the way!
(Dragan, 12 August 2011 18:28)

Kosova is gone Dragan, long time ago!
Keep up that attitude and I will assure you that you will lose EU too.

'EU or Kosovo' dilemma doesn't exist; dilemma is EU or NOTHING!!!

EU is already raising the bar to make it difficult for Serbia to qualify for candidate status.
(Jacob Wasserman, 13 August 2011 06:29)

Well we cant do nothing about that, Serbia cant recognize Kosovo stamps, because goverment will go down. So EU politicians are not rasing the bar they put ''Berlin wall'' betwen EU and Serbia, and i am not sure they realize this. There is absolutely no way to force Serbia to recognize Kosovo not even with bombs.

It always amazes me to hear some of those commenting about threatening to bring nationalists to power in Serbia. Other than Serbs, nobody really cares. In fact, the EU is already raising the bar to make it difficult for Serbia to qualify for candidate status. So, go ahead and make their day, the Serbs would be doing the EU a big favor by electing nationalists to power.

The Serbs handed over their so called war criminals and what has Tadic got for that? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING except now it’s you must recognize Kosovo.
(sj, 13 August 2011 13:28)
Certainly even you see the problem with your post. Serbia should have not handed over "war criminals" unless it benefitted them? Kind of makes it difficult for you to judge others morals
(pss, 13 August 2011 16:52)

I have seen your US morals at work very close, especially in Indo China so I’d say I’m an expert in that arena. Just because the United States of Windbags declares you a war criminal does not mean that declaration comes from God as you people seem to think.
My point was to show that Tadic who is a western crawler was promised the world but now has nothing to show for so called handing these people over – no a blessed thing. You see the EU promised him the door would be open if he handed over Mladic and Hadjic and low and behold nothing has happened.
That was my point not a discussion on morality. But I hear another 5 US troops were blown to pieces in Afghanistan – that is the only morality the US understands.


Sorry, but handing them over was not a matter of negotiation or quid pro quo. That was Serbia's (and everybody's else) obligation as decided by the UNSC in Resolution 827.
(icj1, 13 August 2011 14:57)

Un resolutions are like a nicely decorated plate of food – you can decided what you want to eat on the plate while the rest you can throw away. Look at how many resolutions the US has ignored over the years so don’t get on your high horse and talk about obligations.
Obligations and morality are displayed by leadership not by do as I say not as I do. The US can murder at will but we call it democracy and freedom while if you defend yourself then you are a criminal. When the west decides to adhere to UN resolutions then come to my doors and talk about what I should do.