“Partition of Kosovo is unacceptable”

maybe you should worry about your borders Mr. and worry at how the 4 million turks will make their own state in germany like some others.

It seems we’re getting an overdose of twofaced German soundbites in the news today. Berlin played a pivotal role in creating this mess by facilitating the formation of a partially recognised, crime-infested statelet within Serbia’s UN-recognised borders. And now the krauts have the audacity to order Serbia to compromise yet again, as a precondition for jumping on board the EU-Titanic. It’s time for Belgrade to tell them to stick their Eurotrash membership application where the sun don’t shine.

Yes, partition is unacceptable. However it is unacceptable to Serbs. The entire province of Kosovo is Serbian land. As is the province of Krajina in Croatia. What is more unacceptable is a foreign so-called 'diplomat' who's arrogant and weightless comments just fuel fires outside of their warm comfortable beds. There is no room in the EU for Germany in my opinion. Quite honestly I don't believe that Serbia should join the EU anyways.

In some cases partition is acceptable, i.e. the partition of Thaci and his criminal supporters head from their shoulders...

The krauts are upping the pressure unofficially on Tadic to 'do nothing' whilst german vassals can continue to go on the rampage against anything non-albanian. At least they haven't got round to shooting one in ten serbs.

The krauts are upping the pressure unofficially on Tadic to 'do nothing' whilst german vassals can continue to go on the rampage against anything non-albanian. At least they haven't got round to shooting one in ten serbs.
(Chop Chop, 10 August 2011 18:28)

No what the Germans are saying is that Serbia has a better chance of becoming a Russian republic than joining the EU, if they do not respect the soverignty and rights of their neighbors.

Partition is mute...nobody wants to open pandoras box.


@Belgrade...I'm still waiting for that precedents that was set according to you. It seems even you clowns are realizing that Kosovo's situation out of ex-yugo was tentatively based in sui generis premises.


Thanks,
(KOSO, 10 August 2011 18:23)


1st. South Ossetia

2nd. Scotland will declare unilateral independence if a referendum is successful

3rd. Youve Got Palestine in a months time

4th. If Kosovo ever gets 97 Recognitions, All Hells going to break lose and you could expect a second Bosnian War

All its going take is a mini war between pristina and the Serbs in the north. Its coming and kfor knows it. That will spark the Serbs to declare independence and it will be allowed by the world. Then that opens the door to the RS.

If there is partition, albanians south of the Ibar will go on the rampage and make the anti-serb pogroms of 2004 look like child's play. Not even the albanians friends will be able to excuse it. Kosovo won't then join the EU and will become part of Turkey again... Serbia will still be multi-ethnic.

Partition is mute...nobody wants to open pandoras box.


@Belgrade...I'm still waiting for that precedents that was set according to you. It seems even you clowns are realizing that Kosovo's situation out of ex-yugo was tentatively based in sui generis premises.


Thanks,

“It is an impossible situation in which a new EU member will import its territorial problems with its EU accession. That will not happen, it must not happen. I think that Belgrade is quite aware of that,” Ischinger concluded.

That's true. An EU access with unresolved border issues woudl be problematic. But the conclusion is wrong: Only if Kosovo is partitioned and Serbia, Kosovo and all EU/UN member states recognize these new borders (and the state of Kosovo), the are no more 'territorial problems' and Kosovo has the chance to become a real state, not an UDI pseudo entity with a limbo status. Simple and easy.

It is not very suprising that this German "diplomat" continues to ignore the fact that it is still the Albanians occupying Serbian territory.
It is time to start to discuss the possibility of giving something back to Serbia. The north of Kosovo is a majority Serb populated area. 3 years ago this was enough for EU to recognize the area of Kosovo as aindependent (a majority of the population was Albanian) altough it was an integrated part of Serbia. So why now not recognize North Kosovo and Republika Srpska as new states? Should not the same conditions apply in this case??

No what the Germans are saying is that Serbia has a better chance of becoming a Russian republic than joining the EU, if they do not respect the soverignty and rights of their neighbors.
(Dibrani007, 10 August 2011 22:10)

That's not what german businessmen are saying, but as an albanian, this is not relevant to you. BTW, industrial giant Siemens has just announced a joint venture with Russia's PowerTools for creation of industrial gas turbines. If that is not a massive vote of confidence by the german government and business, then what is?

So no partition of serbia....

No what the Germans are saying is that Serbia has a better chance of becoming a Russian republic than joining the EU, if they do not respect the soverignty and rights of their neighbors.
(Dibrani007, 10 August 2011 22:10)

That's not what german businessmen are saying, but as an albanian, this is not relevant to you. BTW, industrial giant Siemens has just announced a joint venture with Russia's PowerTools for creation of industrial gas turbines. If that is not a massive vote of confidence by the german government and business, then what is?
(Chop Chop, 10 August 2011 23:39)

The reason you are not relevant is because you are straying from a foreign policy/political issue into economic news about Siemens and gas turbines. Serbia will not join the EU without respecting the rights of their neighbors to live in peace, security and sovereignty, I don't care how much gas you sell to Russia at below market prices, or if Siemens builds a plant in your backyard. Then again as a Serbian this is probably not relevant to you.

The reason you are not relevant is because you are straying from a foreign policy/political issue into economic news about Siemens and gas turbines. Serbia will not join the EU without respecting the rights of their neighbors to live in peace, security and sovereignty, I don't care how much gas you sell to Russia at below market prices, or if Siemens builds a plant in your backyard. Then again as a Serbian this is probably not relevant to you.
(Dibrani007, 11 August 2011 00:19)

Dilbert000, you made the irrelevant comment about Serbia more likely to become a russian republic. You have absolutely no basis for such a comment (apart from the usual prejudice). I followed up with a salient fact that though you might think being a russian republic is (assumedly) a bad thing, germany, both is politically (which you ignored and is fp as you brought up russia) and economically committed in a very large way to Russia, regardless of others. Thus the point about siemens supports this. What you wrote is mere stains on the toilet floor. BTW, albo, I'm not a serb. I'm sure this is disappointing for you, but I'll leave you grasping at straws which seems to be your specialty.

That will spark the Serbs to declare independence and it will be allowed by the world. Then that opens the door to the RS.
(Dennis, 10 August 2011 22:45)

Independence from what ? From Serbia ?

Dibrani-vandalised any churches lately? I hear there are a few left, time is running out. Tick tock.

Wait and see for serbia what will happen in the EU. Now it is no use to even thinking about a candidate status.
First the EU wanted Mladic. Now that they have mladic they want serbia to give Kosovo. The question is what will be next ... ?

That's not what german businessmen are saying, but as an albanian, this is not relevant to you. BTW, industrial giant Siemens has just announced a joint venture with Russia's PowerTools for creation of industrial gas turbines. If that is not a massive vote of confidence by the german government and business, then what is?
(Chop Chop, 10 August 2011 23:39)

Siemens has given lisence to power machines for long time now nothing new. JV with Russian company does not mean much my friend, Siemens and GE have many such JV's around the world only way to win contract in russia is in such manner at least in power industry where I been negotiating for past 4 years.

Oh and I am K- albanina and no Russian cares about Serbia in those circles.

BTW, albo, I'm not a serb. I'm sure this is disappointing for you, but I'll leave you grasping at straws which seems to be your specialty.
(Chop Chop!, 11 August 2011 22:46)

If B92 did not delete/edit my comments, I'd have a response for your serbophile ilk and it would hit home.

Partition is mute...nobody wants to open pandoras box.


@Belgrade...I'm still waiting for that precedents that was set according to you. It seems even you clowns are realizing that Kosovo's situation out of ex-yugo was tentatively based in sui generis premises.


Thanks,

maybe you should worry about your borders Mr. and worry at how the 4 million turks will make their own state in germany like some others.

The krauts are upping the pressure unofficially on Tadic to 'do nothing' whilst german vassals can continue to go on the rampage against anything non-albanian. At least they haven't got round to shooting one in ten serbs.
(Chop Chop, 10 August 2011 18:28)

No what the Germans are saying is that Serbia has a better chance of becoming a Russian republic than joining the EU, if they do not respect the soverignty and rights of their neighbors.

Yes, partition is unacceptable. However it is unacceptable to Serbs. The entire province of Kosovo is Serbian land. As is the province of Krajina in Croatia. What is more unacceptable is a foreign so-called 'diplomat' who's arrogant and weightless comments just fuel fires outside of their warm comfortable beds. There is no room in the EU for Germany in my opinion. Quite honestly I don't believe that Serbia should join the EU anyways.

In some cases partition is acceptable, i.e. the partition of Thaci and his criminal supporters head from their shoulders...

The krauts are upping the pressure unofficially on Tadic to 'do nothing' whilst german vassals can continue to go on the rampage against anything non-albanian. At least they haven't got round to shooting one in ten serbs.

Partition is mute...nobody wants to open pandoras box.


@Belgrade...I'm still waiting for that precedents that was set according to you. It seems even you clowns are realizing that Kosovo's situation out of ex-yugo was tentatively based in sui generis premises.


Thanks,
(KOSO, 10 August 2011 18:23)


1st. South Ossetia

2nd. Scotland will declare unilateral independence if a referendum is successful

3rd. Youve Got Palestine in a months time

4th. If Kosovo ever gets 97 Recognitions, All Hells going to break lose and you could expect a second Bosnian War

No what the Germans are saying is that Serbia has a better chance of becoming a Russian republic than joining the EU, if they do not respect the soverignty and rights of their neighbors.
(Dibrani007, 10 August 2011 22:10)

That's not what german businessmen are saying, but as an albanian, this is not relevant to you. BTW, industrial giant Siemens has just announced a joint venture with Russia's PowerTools for creation of industrial gas turbines. If that is not a massive vote of confidence by the german government and business, then what is?

All its going take is a mini war between pristina and the Serbs in the north. Its coming and kfor knows it. That will spark the Serbs to declare independence and it will be allowed by the world. Then that opens the door to the RS.

No what the Germans are saying is that Serbia has a better chance of becoming a Russian republic than joining the EU, if they do not respect the soverignty and rights of their neighbors.
(Dibrani007, 10 August 2011 22:10)

That's not what german businessmen are saying, but as an albanian, this is not relevant to you. BTW, industrial giant Siemens has just announced a joint venture with Russia's PowerTools for creation of industrial gas turbines. If that is not a massive vote of confidence by the german government and business, then what is?
(Chop Chop, 10 August 2011 23:39)

The reason you are not relevant is because you are straying from a foreign policy/political issue into economic news about Siemens and gas turbines. Serbia will not join the EU without respecting the rights of their neighbors to live in peace, security and sovereignty, I don't care how much gas you sell to Russia at below market prices, or if Siemens builds a plant in your backyard. Then again as a Serbian this is probably not relevant to you.

It seems we’re getting an overdose of twofaced German soundbites in the news today. Berlin played a pivotal role in creating this mess by facilitating the formation of a partially recognised, crime-infested statelet within Serbia’s UN-recognised borders. And now the krauts have the audacity to order Serbia to compromise yet again, as a precondition for jumping on board the EU-Titanic. It’s time for Belgrade to tell them to stick their Eurotrash membership application where the sun don’t shine.

If there is partition, albanians south of the Ibar will go on the rampage and make the anti-serb pogroms of 2004 look like child's play. Not even the albanians friends will be able to excuse it. Kosovo won't then join the EU and will become part of Turkey again... Serbia will still be multi-ethnic.

It is not very suprising that this German "diplomat" continues to ignore the fact that it is still the Albanians occupying Serbian territory.
It is time to start to discuss the possibility of giving something back to Serbia. The north of Kosovo is a majority Serb populated area. 3 years ago this was enough for EU to recognize the area of Kosovo as aindependent (a majority of the population was Albanian) altough it was an integrated part of Serbia. So why now not recognize North Kosovo and Republika Srpska as new states? Should not the same conditions apply in this case??

That will spark the Serbs to declare independence and it will be allowed by the world. Then that opens the door to the RS.
(Dennis, 10 August 2011 22:45)

Independence from what ? From Serbia ?

“It is an impossible situation in which a new EU member will import its territorial problems with its EU accession. That will not happen, it must not happen. I think that Belgrade is quite aware of that,” Ischinger concluded.

That's true. An EU access with unresolved border issues woudl be problematic. But the conclusion is wrong: Only if Kosovo is partitioned and Serbia, Kosovo and all EU/UN member states recognize these new borders (and the state of Kosovo), the are no more 'territorial problems' and Kosovo has the chance to become a real state, not an UDI pseudo entity with a limbo status. Simple and easy.

So no partition of serbia....

BTW, albo, I'm not a serb. I'm sure this is disappointing for you, but I'll leave you grasping at straws which seems to be your specialty.
(Chop Chop!, 11 August 2011 22:46)

If B92 did not delete/edit my comments, I'd have a response for your serbophile ilk and it would hit home.

That's not what german businessmen are saying, but as an albanian, this is not relevant to you. BTW, industrial giant Siemens has just announced a joint venture with Russia's PowerTools for creation of industrial gas turbines. If that is not a massive vote of confidence by the german government and business, then what is?
(Chop Chop, 10 August 2011 23:39)

Siemens has given lisence to power machines for long time now nothing new. JV with Russian company does not mean much my friend, Siemens and GE have many such JV's around the world only way to win contract in russia is in such manner at least in power industry where I been negotiating for past 4 years.

Oh and I am K- albanina and no Russian cares about Serbia in those circles.

The reason you are not relevant is because you are straying from a foreign policy/political issue into economic news about Siemens and gas turbines. Serbia will not join the EU without respecting the rights of their neighbors to live in peace, security and sovereignty, I don't care how much gas you sell to Russia at below market prices, or if Siemens builds a plant in your backyard. Then again as a Serbian this is probably not relevant to you.
(Dibrani007, 11 August 2011 00:19)

Dilbert000, you made the irrelevant comment about Serbia more likely to become a russian republic. You have absolutely no basis for such a comment (apart from the usual prejudice). I followed up with a salient fact that though you might think being a russian republic is (assumedly) a bad thing, germany, both is politically (which you ignored and is fp as you brought up russia) and economically committed in a very large way to Russia, regardless of others. Thus the point about siemens supports this. What you wrote is mere stains on the toilet floor. BTW, albo, I'm not a serb. I'm sure this is disappointing for you, but I'll leave you grasping at straws which seems to be your specialty.

Dibrani-vandalised any churches lately? I hear there are a few left, time is running out. Tick tock.

Wait and see for serbia what will happen in the EU. Now it is no use to even thinking about a candidate status.
First the EU wanted Mladic. Now that they have mladic they want serbia to give Kosovo. The question is what will be next ... ?