KFOR withdraws from Serb barricades in north

NATO won nothing in 1999, it bombed a tiny country from 35,000 ft. that was no match militarily. It was unlawful occupation, and continues to be. Albanians have nothing to stick their chests out about.

Carl,

Thank you for the link and well said! Amen! Unfortubnately the KLA thugs, some of their ignorant masters, and many of the village computer warriors that trash this site cannot see things like that.

What negotiations?? Are you kidding me, it's the law of conquest: NATO won in 1999 and this week it captured the customs points back.
(Go Kosova, 29 July 2011 10:32)

No they didnt

At ramboillet Serbia didnt accept Nato's ultimatum because
1. It allowed Occupation of All Of Yugoslavia
2. It allowed Kosovo to become independence

At the end of the Conflict Nato Accepted Milosevic's terms (which he'd offered at the beginning of the conflict), not vice versa, with those two terms cut out. That is a clear Serbian Victory.

From Carl Bildt's blog:

”The situation within and surrounding northern Kosovo has prompted several contacts during the day. Last night violence erupted, with one resulting casualty so far.

And this has led to extra meetings with the UN Security Council, the EU Political committee as well as the NATO council in Brussels. We have participated in the latter one as well, since we contribute to the KFOR forces in Kosovo.

The wisest for Kosovo would be for its political leadership to focus on the economical situation that, partially because of poor management of the public finances, will now likely deteriorate even more.

But, possibly they seek to divert attention from these problems through their actions in northern Kosovo and instead play the safe nationalistic card.

In any case the actions are shortsighted. The experience from earlier, similar events is that measures such as these damage the process of building confidence which is the only sustainable way forward in northern Kosovo.

And of course this will complicate the dialog between Belgrade and Pristina.

Furthermore, I hardly believe that this will help Kosovo gain support for its various wishes. The fact that they almost demonstratively avoided contact with the EU representatives during the action has been duly noted.

But now we will try to normalize the situation as well as coordinate conduct of the present internationals. There is a whole lot more to be expected from the latter as well.”

http://carlbildt.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/fortsattning-aven-i-dag/

Amen,

Carl

NATO and Albanian officers have sealed of the North and now Serbs try to "retaliate" by blocking themselves, as well. LOL, I can't stop laughing...

7-14 days it will take until food will run out and then Serbs will accept their devastating defeat and ask for permission. Watch and see...

Ciiiaaaaoooo! :-)

Forever independent?
Empire's Rise and Fall So will the Kosova Project!
(mick, 29 July 2011 16:05)

Exactly, Serbian empire is dead several centuries ago but you can't accept it.

The smuggling routes are now military areas (read: Kill Zones).

Let's see how long will the Serb criminal gangs last in Northern Kosovo without the support from Belgrade!

There is only one thing here. Serbs do not face the reality, reality that Kosovo now and forever is an independent state and they must live with Kosovo rules or they have to go in Srbia forever.

NATO and Albanian officers have sealed of the North and now Serbs try to "retaliate" by blocking themselves, as well. LOL, I can't stop laughing...

7-14 days it will take until food will run out and then Serbs will accept their devastating defeat and ask for permission. Watch and see...

Ciiiaaaaoooo! :-)
(JohnC., 29 July 2011 12:03)

How the mask has slipped. It is clear Gjon that you would like nothing more than the Serbs to be driven out of KiM through whatever means possible, even by starvation. After all, it wasn't so long ago when you urged Thaci and the KLA to finish off the job that they failed to achieve in 1999, i.e. drive out the remaining non Albanian population of KiM.

I hope the issue is resolved by peaceful means and an agreement accepted by all sides. Here's hoping.

What negotiations?? Are you kidding me, it's the law of conquest: NATO won in 1999 and this week it captured the customs points back.

There is only one thing here. Serbs do not face the reality, reality that Kosovo now and forever is an independent state and they must live with Kosovo rules or they have to go in Srbia forever.
(fs, 29 July 2011 12:44)

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?

@fs
Forever independent?
Empire's Rise and Fall So will the Kosova Project!

Haha it was probably the Pristina government thugs that burned the check point to divert attention from a failing government and UDI. The world is going broke and soon there going to cut the UDI funding and leave Pristina high and dry or maybe send them a bill. All kidding aside the situation is getting bad and the international community is watch how the kalbos are going to defuse the problem. And they can't send in death squads (kla) this time.

Today the Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt writes on his blog, something like that the crises in kosovo who was started by pm Thaci is coming under control and that kfor is now started to functional again etc...

Which means that the EU probably is not so satisfied with Mr Thaci...

Hey Carl, sorry to ruin your plans to give Serbia the status while leaving Kosova in the ghetto. It's all over now, go to plan B and plan better next time.

EU = FAIL

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

Valid only in your thoughts. I have yet to see an UNMIK police officer, and I am wondering where is UNMIK SRSG to null and void any desission that Kosova goverment takes and enforces!?
Please, can you show me something that I am not seeing, since I live in Kosova and you live in Holland.

Ask ICJ.
(JohnC., 29 July 2011 19:15)
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Maybe you should read the judgement, particularly the part where it states 1244 is still in force.

Anyway, as usual, ethnic Albanians with backing from the world most advanced killing machine causing more instability in the region. It is obvious they can't negotiate and don't understand the concept of peace and reconciliation. In other words, the seeds of future conflict are being sown and when the time is right, ethnic Albanians will finally realise their dream of all living within one state, but probably not as they thought.

Hey Kalbos,
you call your "Kosova" a country. Did you know what a country is? For example the vast majority of products and services should be taxed. That's difficult in Kosovo because the tax rate on girls, drugs and human organs is not defined. I known you have really exportet some goods legally, let's estimate it at 50 Mio € (Wikipedia says it were 36 Mio €). On the other hand you imported goods worth 1 Bln €. So you are consuming 20 times more than you are producing legally. The remainder comes from smuggling and transfers from the EU. Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

Many of your "favourites" were on the INTERPOL list including Thaci. I know that many would like to see G.Bush or even Berlusconi on this list, but you are leading in this category. Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

NATO bombed Serbia for ethnic cleansing. Now you are "kindly asking to move" (or killing) Serbs. You are even burning churches when being filmed (What relegion are your supporters?). There are reports of your behavior. No, I don't mean Serbian reports. Who is leading KFOR? A German? So go and look for "Es begann mit einer Lüge" (It started with a lie / ПОЧЕЛО ЈЕ СА ЈЕДНОМ ЛАЖИ ) in youtube. This is not Serbian propaganda but German government TV.Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

Now going back to your supporters. The USA is busy in Afghanistan, Iraq and Lybia. On the other hand they are discussing if they are bunkrupt or not. The public opinion in Germany is going the other way now and much less people believe your lies - just read articles and comments here. (And by the way, you are not welcome here in Germany. I don't understand why so many K.Albans come here when the Kosovo is the heaven on earth, go back please). Think about it. What do you do when your supporters go home? Do you cry for Albania? They don't even have a war airplane...and not the money to buy one. Maybe the play lottery to buy one. Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

My suggestion: Don't behave like a five year old boy with a 10 year old brother and don't hide behind anyone else. Sit down with the Serbs and discuss a way forward.

Check http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/141/16010.pdf

Page 9/31

The Court notes that both Security Council resolution 1244 (1999) and the Constitutional
Framework entrust the Special Representative of the Secretary-General with considerable
supervisory powers with regard to the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government.
It observes that Security Council resolution 1244 (1999) and the Constitutional Framework
were still in force and applicable as at 17 February 2008. Paragraph 19 of Security Council
resolution 1244 (1999) expressly provides that “the international civil and security presences are
established for an initial period of 12 months, to continue thereafter unless the Security Council
decides otherwise”. No decision amending resolution 1244 (1999) was taken by the Security
Council at its meeting held on 18 February 2008, when the declaration of independence was
discussed for the first time, or at any subsequent meeting. Neither Security Council
resolution 1244 (1999) nor the Constitutional Framework contains a clause providing for its
termination and neither has been repealed; they therefore constituted the international law
applicable to the situation prevailing in Kosovo on 17 February 2008. The Court further notes that
the Special Representative of the Secretary-General continues to exercise his functions in Kosovo
and, moreover, that the Secretary-General has continued to submit periodic reports to the Security
Council, as required by paragraph 20 of Security Council resolution 1244 (1999).
From the foregoing, the Court concludes that Security Council resolution 1244 (1999) and
the Constitutional Framework form part of the international law which is to be considered in
replying to the question posed by the General Assembly in its request for the advisory opinion.

It's important to recognize the Russian base in Serbia proper. There is in place a military strategy to prevent NATO and their puppets of taking Northern Kosovo. Don't forget what happened to Georgia!! Serbia and Russia forever.

This is how the cookie crumbles, everyone knows KFOR can't go back since 95% of Kosova's population would be very disappointed, to say the least.

In the end not even Dick Marty's lies or Jeremic's antics saved you.

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

Ask ICJ.

Its good that serbian military oficials requested and had meeting with KFOR. Actually KFOR must inform serb oficials about what the hell they are doing, they were close to brake peace agrement from 1999.

Its good that serbian military oficials requested and had meeting with KFOR. Actually KFOR must inform serb oficials about what the hell they are doing, they were close to brake peace agrement from 1999.
(DX, 29 July 2011 11:28)
Notice as you said Serbian officials (not military) requested and met with Kfor, Kfor did not initiate any meeting, and you will find NO where is it said that Kfor must inform Serb officials or Serbia of anything.

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

If you keep your eyes closed then why you stubbornly claim that you see? You sound like cracked CD.

Quote: "checkpoints in the Serb north are restricted military zones, and NATO threatened use of "deadly force" to protect that status".

But gimme a break. Can anybody here really believe in a scenario with NATO shooting at demonstrators attacking the post? UNMIK killed by mistake a guy in 2004 using rubber bullets and the story is still an open case. Who would carry the political responsibility of killing demonstrating civilians even with molotovs?
So far the Kosovo issue has been a theatre drama, recently became a cheap comedy with a hue of tragedy (the poor victims from whatever side).

If you keep your eyes closed then why you stubbornly claim that you see? You sound like cracked CD.
(Simpatiku, 29 July 2011 19:00)

Well, that cracked CD will keep Kosovo province out of UN and EU. Is that what you really want?

ICJ was asked, and they implicitly confirmed that UN1244 is still valid: By declaring that the UDI was not against UN1244.
...
(Analyst, 29 July 2011 20:04)

Correct, declaration of independence didn't violate UN Res. 1244 (result of Serbia's question).

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)
Ask ICJ.
(JohnC., 29 July 2011 19:15)

ICJ was asked, and they implicitly confirmed that UN1244 is still valid: By declaring that the UDI was not against UN1244. Right? Nothing changed since then.

and Serbian Orthodox priests

I always thought the priests will preach the word of God, which is love for all mankind, and not incite hatred and war!?

'declaring' independance is not against UN1244 but actually acting on it is. The ICJ's decision was only on 'saying' you are independent. They took an easy way of not making a real decision.
That aside though, Kosovo's current leadership is p[ressing an issue that is supposed to be discussed through the meetings. I hope Serbia does not respond with any force and keeps the meetings as the focus for compromise.
The Kosovo government needs to be careful or they will lose the support of some of the countries that were hesitant to support their declaration of independance. Which may not be all that bad. Compromise is the best way forward for everyone.

That picture is possibly one of the most dramatic to ever be taken. Why any '''Peacekeeper''' would aim a pistol (the one on the far right) at a girl armed with a rose is beyond me

NATO has always acted in a status-neutral manner.
Hasn't it?
HASN'T IT?

A lot of hot air and the usual threats from the NATO coward killing machine but it´s not surprising, considering their lost fiascoes in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq, that they cannot afford another war, especially one that put their mercenaries at risk.

"What remains puzzling is the why – why risk the overthrow of Tadic, Empire’s loyal sycophant, and Serbia as the linchpin of the region, in order to back the KLA now? Why back Thaci at all, for that matter? Washington insiders have admitted that Serbia was the real prize of the 1999 war – and a way of hurting Russia, no less – while the Albanians were just a convenient means to an end. Could it be that the Empire is still devoted to the project referenced by the late Rep. Lantos, to impress “jihadists of all color and hue” by supporting “another Muslim state” in Europe? If so, it is working out so well…"
http://original.antiwar.com/malic/2011/07/29/law-and-disorder-2/

"Forever independent?
Empire's Rise and Fall So will the Kosova Project! "
(mick, 29 July 2011 16:05)

Empires? Kosovo? You should have better said: Bags of rice fall in China, too :-)

KFOR Commander, General Erhard Bühler, has made it clear that neither can be discussed for the withdrawal of forces from the north. During the press conference at the Ibar Bridge, Buhler said that KFOR will only attract the supply convoys that are headed towards Rudares and Brnjak, to return again on Saturday

Serbs don’t give up! I served in your area and I know exactly what is happening there. Everything is a political game of the NATO countries and specially USA and Germany. Buhler is a hard liner and when he came he tried to do what his country ordered and not what UN and KFOR is obliged to do as a neutral power. KFOR supposed to be neutral but it’s not. Who is recognizing KOSOVO; Not KFOR but some of the countries separately? Everybody can see that KFOR is trying to support KOSOVO government to implement the Kosovo institution also to the NORTH, where Serbs live. This is impossible and you should never accept it! And in the other hand you know what the next plan of USA is …to be part of Albania! For the moment there is no KOSOVO country because they are not able to make a country! Albania is strong supporter of USA in Balkans, also with Skopje. Don’t leave them to do what they want in your region. Its time to take again the weapons and don’t forget that this is Balkans…Bloods is blood and it never becames water...

Stand strong and hold your ground. A victory for the Serbs.

Kosovo "independence", yeah right. I still wait for the Kosovar Albanians to perform ONE single act of independence. Without obeying their foreign (bankrupt) masters in the SAD.

Compromise is the best way forward for everyone.
(kujon, 29 July 2011 22:49)

For sure. But then both sides must give up things. UDI is not really part of such a compromise!


About ICJ: indeed the ICJ said (for from univocal) that DECLARING independence is not against 1244. I do not agree with this interpretation but hey....

It does not say that Kosovo IS an independent nation now. If this was the case then 1244 should be invalid immeditally as then there is no longer a Serbian province of Kosovo.

So there we are: for UN Kosovo is still a Serbian province. For the US it is not...
Not very handy I would say...

I dont know what most serbs are thinking but saturday is just few hours a part relly most of you dont know what the Kfor General say regarding on Saturday to the criminals in North so let see..

justhetruth said,"I dont know what most serbs are thinking but saturday is just few hours a part relly most of you dont know what the Kfor General say regarding on Saturday to the criminals in North so let see."

I don't know what you say because I can't understand what you wrote. You need to get in touch with Agim to help you since he appears to be a self-proclaimed expert.

"and Serbian Orthodox priests

I always thought the priests will preach the word of God, which is love for all mankind, and not incite hatred and war!?
(Agim Kelmendi"

- Yeah, but those are different types of priests.

Compromise is the best way forward for everyone.
(kujon, 29 July 2011 22:49)

For sure. But then both sides must give up things. UDI is not really part of such a compromise!


About ICJ: indeed the ICJ said (for from univocal) that DECLARING independence is not against 1244. I do not agree with this interpretation but hey....

It does not say that Kosovo IS an independent nation now. If this was the case then 1244 should be invalid immeditally as then there is no longer a Serbian province of Kosovo.

So there we are: for UN Kosovo is still a Serbian province. For the US it is not...
Not very handy I would say...

and Serbian Orthodox priests

I always thought the priests will preach the word of God, which is love for all mankind, and not incite hatred and war!?
(Agim Kelmendi, 29 July 2011 22:25)

So I suppose that when the Nazis invaded, and people resisted them, and When the chinese man stood alone, unarmed, against a column of tanks, they were inciting Hatred and war?

At the end of the Conflict Nato Accepted Milosevic's terms (which he'd offered at the beginning of the conflict), not vice versa, with those two terms cut out. That is a clear Serbian Victory.
(New Zealander, 29 July 2011 11:14)

Very nice then; Kosovo was happy with the outcome; Serbia, too. Everybody is happy !



Its good that serbian military oficials requested and had meeting with KFOR. Actually KFOR must inform serb oficials about what the hell they are doing, they were close to brake peace agrement from 1999.
(DX, 29 July 2011 11:28)

KFOR does not have to inform serb officials about anything. KFOR is there because the Security Council said so; not because of Serbia’s wishes.



Maybe you should read the judgement, particularly the part where it states 1244 is still in force.
(Zoran, 29 July 2011 20:20)

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

Because Kosovo’s UDI is in accordance with 1244; in other words both the UDI and 1244 are valid. Not sure why some really can’t grasp that concept.



'declaring' independance is not against UN1244 but actually acting on it is.
(kujon, 29 July 2011 22:49)

Dude, what perverse logic is that ? !
You are saying that a lawful act authorizes you to do something. But if you actually do that thing, it is unlawful !



It does not say that Kosovo IS an independent nation now. If this was the case then 1244 should be invalid immeditally as then there is no longer a Serbian province of Kosovo.
(Ron, 30 July 2011 03:43)

No Sir, because under the terms of resolution 1244 (1999) the Security Council did not reserve for itself the final determination of the situation in Kosovo and remained silent on the conditions for the final status of Kosovo. So either dependence or independence are in line with 1244.

What negotiations?? Are you kidding me, it's the law of conquest: NATO won in 1999 and this week it captured the customs points back.

NATO and Albanian officers have sealed of the North and now Serbs try to "retaliate" by blocking themselves, as well. LOL, I can't stop laughing...

7-14 days it will take until food will run out and then Serbs will accept their devastating defeat and ask for permission. Watch and see...

Ciiiaaaaoooo! :-)

There is only one thing here. Serbs do not face the reality, reality that Kosovo now and forever is an independent state and they must live with Kosovo rules or they have to go in Srbia forever.

The smuggling routes are now military areas (read: Kill Zones).

Let's see how long will the Serb criminal gangs last in Northern Kosovo without the support from Belgrade!

Hey Carl, sorry to ruin your plans to give Serbia the status while leaving Kosova in the ghetto. It's all over now, go to plan B and plan better next time.

EU = FAIL

This is how the cookie crumbles, everyone knows KFOR can't go back since 95% of Kosova's population would be very disappointed, to say the least.

In the end not even Dick Marty's lies or Jeremic's antics saved you.

What negotiations?? Are you kidding me, it's the law of conquest: NATO won in 1999 and this week it captured the customs points back.
(Go Kosova, 29 July 2011 10:32)

No they didnt

At ramboillet Serbia didnt accept Nato's ultimatum because
1. It allowed Occupation of All Of Yugoslavia
2. It allowed Kosovo to become independence

At the end of the Conflict Nato Accepted Milosevic's terms (which he'd offered at the beginning of the conflict), not vice versa, with those two terms cut out. That is a clear Serbian Victory.

Forever independent?
Empire's Rise and Fall So will the Kosova Project!
(mick, 29 July 2011 16:05)

Exactly, Serbian empire is dead several centuries ago but you can't accept it.

NATO won nothing in 1999, it bombed a tiny country from 35,000 ft. that was no match militarily. It was unlawful occupation, and continues to be. Albanians have nothing to stick their chests out about.

Its good that serbian military oficials requested and had meeting with KFOR. Actually KFOR must inform serb oficials about what the hell they are doing, they were close to brake peace agrement from 1999.

Carl,

Thank you for the link and well said! Amen! Unfortubnately the KLA thugs, some of their ignorant masters, and many of the village computer warriors that trash this site cannot see things like that.

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

Valid only in your thoughts. I have yet to see an UNMIK police officer, and I am wondering where is UNMIK SRSG to null and void any desission that Kosova goverment takes and enforces!?
Please, can you show me something that I am not seeing, since I live in Kosova and you live in Holland.

NATO and Albanian officers have sealed of the North and now Serbs try to "retaliate" by blocking themselves, as well. LOL, I can't stop laughing...

7-14 days it will take until food will run out and then Serbs will accept their devastating defeat and ask for permission. Watch and see...

Ciiiaaaaoooo! :-)
(JohnC., 29 July 2011 12:03)

How the mask has slipped. It is clear Gjon that you would like nothing more than the Serbs to be driven out of KiM through whatever means possible, even by starvation. After all, it wasn't so long ago when you urged Thaci and the KLA to finish off the job that they failed to achieve in 1999, i.e. drive out the remaining non Albanian population of KiM.

I hope the issue is resolved by peaceful means and an agreement accepted by all sides. Here's hoping.

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

If you keep your eyes closed then why you stubbornly claim that you see? You sound like cracked CD.

@fs
Forever independent?
Empire's Rise and Fall So will the Kosova Project!

and Serbian Orthodox priests

I always thought the priests will preach the word of God, which is love for all mankind, and not incite hatred and war!?

Its good that serbian military oficials requested and had meeting with KFOR. Actually KFOR must inform serb oficials about what the hell they are doing, they were close to brake peace agrement from 1999.
(DX, 29 July 2011 11:28)
Notice as you said Serbian officials (not military) requested and met with Kfor, Kfor did not initiate any meeting, and you will find NO where is it said that Kfor must inform Serb officials or Serbia of anything.

There is only one thing here. Serbs do not face the reality, reality that Kosovo now and forever is an independent state and they must live with Kosovo rules or they have to go in Srbia forever.
(fs, 29 July 2011 12:44)

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?

From Carl Bildt's blog:

”The situation within and surrounding northern Kosovo has prompted several contacts during the day. Last night violence erupted, with one resulting casualty so far.

And this has led to extra meetings with the UN Security Council, the EU Political committee as well as the NATO council in Brussels. We have participated in the latter one as well, since we contribute to the KFOR forces in Kosovo.

The wisest for Kosovo would be for its political leadership to focus on the economical situation that, partially because of poor management of the public finances, will now likely deteriorate even more.

But, possibly they seek to divert attention from these problems through their actions in northern Kosovo and instead play the safe nationalistic card.

In any case the actions are shortsighted. The experience from earlier, similar events is that measures such as these damage the process of building confidence which is the only sustainable way forward in northern Kosovo.

And of course this will complicate the dialog between Belgrade and Pristina.

Furthermore, I hardly believe that this will help Kosovo gain support for its various wishes. The fact that they almost demonstratively avoided contact with the EU representatives during the action has been duly noted.

But now we will try to normalize the situation as well as coordinate conduct of the present internationals. There is a whole lot more to be expected from the latter as well.”

http://carlbildt.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/fortsattning-aven-i-dag/

Amen,

Carl

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

Ask ICJ.

Quote: "checkpoints in the Serb north are restricted military zones, and NATO threatened use of "deadly force" to protect that status".

But gimme a break. Can anybody here really believe in a scenario with NATO shooting at demonstrators attacking the post? UNMIK killed by mistake a guy in 2004 using rubber bullets and the story is still an open case. Who would carry the political responsibility of killing demonstrating civilians even with molotovs?
So far the Kosovo issue has been a theatre drama, recently became a cheap comedy with a hue of tragedy (the poor victims from whatever side).

Haha it was probably the Pristina government thugs that burned the check point to divert attention from a failing government and UDI. The world is going broke and soon there going to cut the UDI funding and leave Pristina high and dry or maybe send them a bill. All kidding aside the situation is getting bad and the international community is watch how the kalbos are going to defuse the problem. And they can't send in death squads (kla) this time.

It's important to recognize the Russian base in Serbia proper. There is in place a military strategy to prevent NATO and their puppets of taking Northern Kosovo. Don't forget what happened to Georgia!! Serbia and Russia forever.

Hey Kalbos,
you call your "Kosova" a country. Did you know what a country is? For example the vast majority of products and services should be taxed. That's difficult in Kosovo because the tax rate on girls, drugs and human organs is not defined. I known you have really exportet some goods legally, let's estimate it at 50 Mio € (Wikipedia says it were 36 Mio €). On the other hand you imported goods worth 1 Bln €. So you are consuming 20 times more than you are producing legally. The remainder comes from smuggling and transfers from the EU. Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

Many of your "favourites" were on the INTERPOL list including Thaci. I know that many would like to see G.Bush or even Berlusconi on this list, but you are leading in this category. Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

NATO bombed Serbia for ethnic cleansing. Now you are "kindly asking to move" (or killing) Serbs. You are even burning churches when being filmed (What relegion are your supporters?). There are reports of your behavior. No, I don't mean Serbian reports. Who is leading KFOR? A German? So go and look for "Es begann mit einer Lüge" (It started with a lie / ПОЧЕЛО ЈЕ СА ЈЕДНОМ ЛАЖИ ) in youtube. This is not Serbian propaganda but German government TV.Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

Now going back to your supporters. The USA is busy in Afghanistan, Iraq and Lybia. On the other hand they are discussing if they are bunkrupt or not. The public opinion in Germany is going the other way now and much less people believe your lies - just read articles and comments here. (And by the way, you are not welcome here in Germany. I don't understand why so many K.Albans come here when the Kosovo is the heaven on earth, go back please). Think about it. What do you do when your supporters go home? Do you cry for Albania? They don't even have a war airplane...and not the money to buy one. Maybe the play lottery to buy one. Do you really think any other "country" on earth can exist that way?

My suggestion: Don't behave like a five year old boy with a 10 year old brother and don't hide behind anyone else. Sit down with the Serbs and discuss a way forward.

I dont know what most serbs are thinking but saturday is just few hours a part relly most of you dont know what the Kfor General say regarding on Saturday to the criminals in North so let see..

Check http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/141/16010.pdf

Page 9/31

The Court notes that both Security Council resolution 1244 (1999) and the Constitutional
Framework entrust the Special Representative of the Secretary-General with considerable
supervisory powers with regard to the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government.
It observes that Security Council resolution 1244 (1999) and the Constitutional Framework
were still in force and applicable as at 17 February 2008. Paragraph 19 of Security Council
resolution 1244 (1999) expressly provides that “the international civil and security presences are
established for an initial period of 12 months, to continue thereafter unless the Security Council
decides otherwise”. No decision amending resolution 1244 (1999) was taken by the Security
Council at its meeting held on 18 February 2008, when the declaration of independence was
discussed for the first time, or at any subsequent meeting. Neither Security Council
resolution 1244 (1999) nor the Constitutional Framework contains a clause providing for its
termination and neither has been repealed; they therefore constituted the international law
applicable to the situation prevailing in Kosovo on 17 February 2008. The Court further notes that
the Special Representative of the Secretary-General continues to exercise his functions in Kosovo
and, moreover, that the Secretary-General has continued to submit periodic reports to the Security
Council, as required by paragraph 20 of Security Council resolution 1244 (1999).
From the foregoing, the Court concludes that Security Council resolution 1244 (1999) and
the Constitutional Framework form part of the international law which is to be considered in
replying to the question posed by the General Assembly in its request for the advisory opinion.

ICJ was asked, and they implicitly confirmed that UN1244 is still valid: By declaring that the UDI was not against UN1244.
...
(Analyst, 29 July 2011 20:04)

Correct, declaration of independence didn't violate UN Res. 1244 (result of Serbia's question).

Ask ICJ.
(JohnC., 29 July 2011 19:15)
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Maybe you should read the judgement, particularly the part where it states 1244 is still in force.

Anyway, as usual, ethnic Albanians with backing from the world most advanced killing machine causing more instability in the region. It is obvious they can't negotiate and don't understand the concept of peace and reconciliation. In other words, the seeds of future conflict are being sown and when the time is right, ethnic Albanians will finally realise their dream of all living within one state, but probably not as they thought.

If you keep your eyes closed then why you stubbornly claim that you see? You sound like cracked CD.
(Simpatiku, 29 July 2011 19:00)

Well, that cracked CD will keep Kosovo province out of UN and EU. Is that what you really want?

Today the Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt writes on his blog, something like that the crises in kosovo who was started by pm Thaci is coming under control and that kfor is now started to functional again etc...

Which means that the EU probably is not so satisfied with Mr Thaci...

'declaring' independance is not against UN1244 but actually acting on it is. The ICJ's decision was only on 'saying' you are independent. They took an easy way of not making a real decision.
That aside though, Kosovo's current leadership is p[ressing an issue that is supposed to be discussed through the meetings. I hope Serbia does not respond with any force and keeps the meetings as the focus for compromise.
The Kosovo government needs to be careful or they will lose the support of some of the countries that were hesitant to support their declaration of independance. Which may not be all that bad. Compromise is the best way forward for everyone.

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)
Ask ICJ.
(JohnC., 29 July 2011 19:15)

ICJ was asked, and they implicitly confirmed that UN1244 is still valid: By declaring that the UDI was not against UN1244. Right? Nothing changed since then.

NATO has always acted in a status-neutral manner.
Hasn't it?
HASN'T IT?

Compromise is the best way forward for everyone.
(kujon, 29 July 2011 22:49)

For sure. But then both sides must give up things. UDI is not really part of such a compromise!


About ICJ: indeed the ICJ said (for from univocal) that DECLARING independence is not against 1244. I do not agree with this interpretation but hey....

It does not say that Kosovo IS an independent nation now. If this was the case then 1244 should be invalid immeditally as then there is no longer a Serbian province of Kosovo.

So there we are: for UN Kosovo is still a Serbian province. For the US it is not...
Not very handy I would say...

Compromise is the best way forward for everyone.
(kujon, 29 July 2011 22:49)

For sure. But then both sides must give up things. UDI is not really part of such a compromise!


About ICJ: indeed the ICJ said (for from univocal) that DECLARING independence is not against 1244. I do not agree with this interpretation but hey....

It does not say that Kosovo IS an independent nation now. If this was the case then 1244 should be invalid immeditally as then there is no longer a Serbian province of Kosovo.

So there we are: for UN Kosovo is still a Serbian province. For the US it is not...
Not very handy I would say...

A lot of hot air and the usual threats from the NATO coward killing machine but it´s not surprising, considering their lost fiascoes in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq, that they cannot afford another war, especially one that put their mercenaries at risk.

"What remains puzzling is the why – why risk the overthrow of Tadic, Empire’s loyal sycophant, and Serbia as the linchpin of the region, in order to back the KLA now? Why back Thaci at all, for that matter? Washington insiders have admitted that Serbia was the real prize of the 1999 war – and a way of hurting Russia, no less – while the Albanians were just a convenient means to an end. Could it be that the Empire is still devoted to the project referenced by the late Rep. Lantos, to impress “jihadists of all color and hue” by supporting “another Muslim state” in Europe? If so, it is working out so well…"
http://original.antiwar.com/malic/2011/07/29/law-and-disorder-2/

At the end of the Conflict Nato Accepted Milosevic's terms (which he'd offered at the beginning of the conflict), not vice versa, with those two terms cut out. That is a clear Serbian Victory.
(New Zealander, 29 July 2011 11:14)

Very nice then; Kosovo was happy with the outcome; Serbia, too. Everybody is happy !



Its good that serbian military oficials requested and had meeting with KFOR. Actually KFOR must inform serb oficials about what the hell they are doing, they were close to brake peace agrement from 1999.
(DX, 29 July 2011 11:28)

KFOR does not have to inform serb officials about anything. KFOR is there because the Security Council said so; not because of Serbia’s wishes.



Maybe you should read the judgement, particularly the part where it states 1244 is still in force.
(Zoran, 29 July 2011 20:20)

If that is the case then why is 1244 still valid?
(Ron, 29 July 2011 18:35)

Because Kosovo’s UDI is in accordance with 1244; in other words both the UDI and 1244 are valid. Not sure why some really can’t grasp that concept.



'declaring' independance is not against UN1244 but actually acting on it is.
(kujon, 29 July 2011 22:49)

Dude, what perverse logic is that ? !
You are saying that a lawful act authorizes you to do something. But if you actually do that thing, it is unlawful !



It does not say that Kosovo IS an independent nation now. If this was the case then 1244 should be invalid immeditally as then there is no longer a Serbian province of Kosovo.
(Ron, 30 July 2011 03:43)

No Sir, because under the terms of resolution 1244 (1999) the Security Council did not reserve for itself the final determination of the situation in Kosovo and remained silent on the conditions for the final status of Kosovo. So either dependence or independence are in line with 1244.

KFOR Commander, General Erhard Bühler, has made it clear that neither can be discussed for the withdrawal of forces from the north. During the press conference at the Ibar Bridge, Buhler said that KFOR will only attract the supply convoys that are headed towards Rudares and Brnjak, to return again on Saturday

Serbs don’t give up! I served in your area and I know exactly what is happening there. Everything is a political game of the NATO countries and specially USA and Germany. Buhler is a hard liner and when he came he tried to do what his country ordered and not what UN and KFOR is obliged to do as a neutral power. KFOR supposed to be neutral but it’s not. Who is recognizing KOSOVO; Not KFOR but some of the countries separately? Everybody can see that KFOR is trying to support KOSOVO government to implement the Kosovo institution also to the NORTH, where Serbs live. This is impossible and you should never accept it! And in the other hand you know what the next plan of USA is …to be part of Albania! For the moment there is no KOSOVO country because they are not able to make a country! Albania is strong supporter of USA in Balkans, also with Skopje. Don’t leave them to do what they want in your region. Its time to take again the weapons and don’t forget that this is Balkans…Bloods is blood and it never becames water...

"and Serbian Orthodox priests

I always thought the priests will preach the word of God, which is love for all mankind, and not incite hatred and war!?
(Agim Kelmendi"

- Yeah, but those are different types of priests.

and Serbian Orthodox priests

I always thought the priests will preach the word of God, which is love for all mankind, and not incite hatred and war!?
(Agim Kelmendi, 29 July 2011 22:25)

So I suppose that when the Nazis invaded, and people resisted them, and When the chinese man stood alone, unarmed, against a column of tanks, they were inciting Hatred and war?

"Forever independent?
Empire's Rise and Fall So will the Kosova Project! "
(mick, 29 July 2011 16:05)

Empires? Kosovo? You should have better said: Bags of rice fall in China, too :-)

Stand strong and hold your ground. A victory for the Serbs.

That picture is possibly one of the most dramatic to ever be taken. Why any '''Peacekeeper''' would aim a pistol (the one on the far right) at a girl armed with a rose is beyond me

justhetruth said,"I dont know what most serbs are thinking but saturday is just few hours a part relly most of you dont know what the Kfor General say regarding on Saturday to the criminals in North so let see."

I don't know what you say because I can't understand what you wrote. You need to get in touch with Agim to help you since he appears to be a self-proclaimed expert.

Kosovo "independence", yeah right. I still wait for the Kosovar Albanians to perform ONE single act of independence. Without obeying their foreign (bankrupt) masters in the SAD.