Belgrade Center for Human Rights Director Vojin Dimitrijević says that even after the arrest of Goran Hadžić, many more people should answer for war crimes.
Nenad, your list is incomplete. You forgot that the ICTY is a NATO court, set up by the West, and not created based on an UNSC resolution. You forgot that Milosevic was murdered in the Hague, because he was innocent and nobody could convict him being guilty, and not because he was old, ill, and he did everything to prolong his trial. You forgot that the ICTY is biased, because there were more Serbs convivcted than others, just like all courts are biased because there are more men than women imprisoned.
And, last but not least, you forgot to mention that the lunar landing never happened but was only staged and filmed in a studio by the evil US of A, to show that they can do better than the Russians :-)
Yep, Serbs must always assume that the USA is working behind the scenes in stories like this. For it simply can't be rational to question whether there might be dark forces at work in Serbia. Ratko and Radovan are heros. Sloba was only trying to keep Yugoslavia in tact. Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric, Serbs killed in WWII. Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding. Serbians never fired on Sarajevo, it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy. Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble. Serbs have always been the pacifists, and no should ever dare to interpret that as meaning "Serbia to the Pacific!"
(Nenad, 22 July 2011 20:13)
Nenad, you are so right.
"Ratko and Radovan are heros". Yes,
"Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric,".. Spot on. Oric even bragged about that.
. "Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding." That one is true as well.
"it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy."
Yes, sometims that happened too. A very good strategy that the other two sides adopted too. Remember Markale. Those mortars came from Muslim positions. Ask General MacKenzie. He tells it like it was.
"Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble."
Croatians were arming themselves for war way before anything happened. All those weapons they smuggled though Hungarian border. I am guessing you didn't know.
Albanians were making trouble way, way before. Slowly ethnically cloeansing Serbs from Kosovo and when that wasn't moving fast enough for them they started murdering police. Someone had to step in and so something.
So you see you were right on all the points. What you failed to do is expand on it.
LOL Good one Stefan, that is the joke of the day.
(Dragan)
I'm not implying that they do; like any superpower (and any country), their foreign policy is basically to ensure their interests. My point was that Serbia should do what it thinks is right, yet not be so dismissive of all suggestions by other countries. And they certainly shouldn't try and do something simply to go against a country's wishes, for no real practical reason.
Basically, I believe they shouldn't feel pressured into doing anything, since I agree, I don't want to see Serbia be submissive to every little thing which the West demands - no citizen of any country would like to see that. But, on the other hand, I hardly think that this suggestion (to keep searching for potential war criminals) is going to destroy the country.
It's better to be rational, and look at an issue purely on its merits, instead of letting pride interfere. :)
and that is not to even mention the locating and opening/exhumation of further mass graves throughout serbia and "RS", and coming to terms with the horrors of mass industrialized burning of albanian bodies in 1999.
when will the truth finally come to fore??
roberto frisco
(roberto, 22 July 2011 18:29)
like i've told you many, many times, those claims were investigated by the hague, and turned up no evidence whatsoever http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/11/world/early-count-hints-at-fewer-kosovo-deaths.html
Some of the responses are rather humorous. So let me get this straight, the US cares for human rights?? LOL Good one Stefan, that is the joke of the day.
If Dimitrijevic is a true 'humanitarian', he should be demanding that the organizers of Operation Storm, which is US sponsored genocide, where the entire Serbian population was wiped out in one weekend, that these people be tried and jailed. Also, same thing for the NATO terrorists that bombed Serbia for 78 days around the clock. However, you won't hear that from Dimitrijevic, for he is working for these 'humanitarion bombers', and they are signing his paycheque.
It's really not hard to understand, use your brain, there's more than linquine up there.
Yep, Serbs must always assume that the USA is working behind the scenes in stories like this. For it simply can't be rational to question whether there might be dark forces at work in Serbia. Ratko and Radovan are heros. Sloba was only trying to keep Yugoslavia in tact. Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric, Serbs killed in WWII. Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding. Serbians never fired on Sarajevo, it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy. Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble. Serbs have always been the pacifists, and no should ever dare to interpret that as meaning "Serbia to the Pacific!"
So, even if there happened to be some guy who might have committed war crimes, yet did not receive an indictment from the Hague, and if the Serbian courts felt that they had enough evidence or whatever to trial him before the judiciary system, then it should be dropped, simply because, if we do so, we'd be subservient to foreign interests? Ha!
Time for a hastily-thought-up analogy: That's like saying that if my neighbour's house was burgled while he was away, and he wanted to ask me if I knew anything about it/saw anything/heard anything, I'd turn around and say, "I'm not going to tell you anything, otherwise, that'd make me subservient to you! I'm not subservient to anybody!"
--"That tribunal was founded only because nobody here wished to prosecute anyone and it has now been reduced only to the biggest personalities. There are many more people who should be held responsible."
"I hope they will answer in front of the courts in each of the states that have jurisdiction over them, but those courts will to a high degree have to depend on the material gathered at the Tribunal," said Dimitrijević.--
I don't know Mr. Dimitrijevic personally, but of course he speaks the truth. which you see so very rarely here. which is consistently covered up. where dissidents are consistently marginalized...
there are still thousands of "lower level" war criminals freely walking the streets of belgrade, of banja luka, prijedor, etc. i just re-listened to an interview we did of branko todorovic, who was mentioned here ONCE, but only when hhe compared natasa to stalin (no comment). according to him there were 10,000 men there (bosnia -- "republika srpska") that need to be put in front of the court. 10,000 just there! the interview was a few years ago, but believe me the # has not changed.
so let's get started!
and that is not to even mention the locating and opening/exhumation of further mass graves throughout serbia and "RS", and coming to terms with the horrors of mass industrialized burning of albanian bodies in 1999.
So Dimitrijevic works for the Belgrade Center for Human Rights, which is funded by, guess who? By the 'National Endowment for Democracy', which is funded by the US congress.
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm
So he works for outside interests, whose job it is to make Serbia weaker and more subservient. This explains his views very clearly. Follow the money people, and consider the source. Whatever Dimitrijevic and his colleagues say, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
Cheers!
So Dimitrijevic works for the Belgrade Center for Human Rights, which is funded by, guess who? By the 'National Endowment for Democracy', which is funded by the US congress.
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm
So he works for outside interests, whose job it is to make Serbia weaker and more subservient. This explains his views very clearly. Follow the money people, and consider the source. Whatever Dimitrijevic and his colleagues say, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
Cheers!
Some of the responses are rather humorous. So let me get this straight, the US cares for human rights?? LOL Good one Stefan, that is the joke of the day.
If Dimitrijevic is a true 'humanitarian', he should be demanding that the organizers of Operation Storm, which is US sponsored genocide, where the entire Serbian population was wiped out in one weekend, that these people be tried and jailed. Also, same thing for the NATO terrorists that bombed Serbia for 78 days around the clock. However, you won't hear that from Dimitrijevic, for he is working for these 'humanitarion bombers', and they are signing his paycheque.
It's really not hard to understand, use your brain, there's more than linquine up there.
--"That tribunal was founded only because nobody here wished to prosecute anyone and it has now been reduced only to the biggest personalities. There are many more people who should be held responsible."
"I hope they will answer in front of the courts in each of the states that have jurisdiction over them, but those courts will to a high degree have to depend on the material gathered at the Tribunal," said Dimitrijević.--
I don't know Mr. Dimitrijevic personally, but of course he speaks the truth. which you see so very rarely here. which is consistently covered up. where dissidents are consistently marginalized...
there are still thousands of "lower level" war criminals freely walking the streets of belgrade, of banja luka, prijedor, etc. i just re-listened to an interview we did of branko todorovic, who was mentioned here ONCE, but only when hhe compared natasa to stalin (no comment). according to him there were 10,000 men there (bosnia -- "republika srpska") that need to be put in front of the court. 10,000 just there! the interview was a few years ago, but believe me the # has not changed.
so let's get started!
and that is not to even mention the locating and opening/exhumation of further mass graves throughout serbia and "RS", and coming to terms with the horrors of mass industrialized burning of albanian bodies in 1999.
and that is not to even mention the locating and opening/exhumation of further mass graves throughout serbia and "RS", and coming to terms with the horrors of mass industrialized burning of albanian bodies in 1999.
when will the truth finally come to fore??
roberto frisco
(roberto, 22 July 2011 18:29)
like i've told you many, many times, those claims were investigated by the hague, and turned up no evidence whatsoever http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/11/world/early-count-hints-at-fewer-kosovo-deaths.html
Yep, Serbs must always assume that the USA is working behind the scenes in stories like this. For it simply can't be rational to question whether there might be dark forces at work in Serbia. Ratko and Radovan are heros. Sloba was only trying to keep Yugoslavia in tact. Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric, Serbs killed in WWII. Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding. Serbians never fired on Sarajevo, it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy. Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble. Serbs have always been the pacifists, and no should ever dare to interpret that as meaning "Serbia to the Pacific!"
(Nenad, 22 July 2011 20:13)
Nenad, you are so right.
"Ratko and Radovan are heros". Yes,
"Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric,".. Spot on. Oric even bragged about that.
. "Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding." That one is true as well.
"it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy."
Yes, sometims that happened too. A very good strategy that the other two sides adopted too. Remember Markale. Those mortars came from Muslim positions. Ask General MacKenzie. He tells it like it was.
"Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble."
Croatians were arming themselves for war way before anything happened. All those weapons they smuggled though Hungarian border. I am guessing you didn't know.
Albanians were making trouble way, way before. Slowly ethnically cloeansing Serbs from Kosovo and when that wasn't moving fast enough for them they started murdering police. Someone had to step in and so something.
So you see you were right on all the points. What you failed to do is expand on it.
So, even if there happened to be some guy who might have committed war crimes, yet did not receive an indictment from the Hague, and if the Serbian courts felt that they had enough evidence or whatever to trial him before the judiciary system, then it should be dropped, simply because, if we do so, we'd be subservient to foreign interests? Ha!
Time for a hastily-thought-up analogy: That's like saying that if my neighbour's house was burgled while he was away, and he wanted to ask me if I knew anything about it/saw anything/heard anything, I'd turn around and say, "I'm not going to tell you anything, otherwise, that'd make me subservient to you! I'm not subservient to anybody!"
Yep, Serbs must always assume that the USA is working behind the scenes in stories like this. For it simply can't be rational to question whether there might be dark forces at work in Serbia. Ratko and Radovan are heros. Sloba was only trying to keep Yugoslavia in tact. Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric, Serbs killed in WWII. Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding. Serbians never fired on Sarajevo, it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy. Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble. Serbs have always been the pacifists, and no should ever dare to interpret that as meaning "Serbia to the Pacific!"
LOL Good one Stefan, that is the joke of the day.
(Dragan)
I'm not implying that they do; like any superpower (and any country), their foreign policy is basically to ensure their interests. My point was that Serbia should do what it thinks is right, yet not be so dismissive of all suggestions by other countries. And they certainly shouldn't try and do something simply to go against a country's wishes, for no real practical reason.
Basically, I believe they shouldn't feel pressured into doing anything, since I agree, I don't want to see Serbia be submissive to every little thing which the West demands - no citizen of any country would like to see that. But, on the other hand, I hardly think that this suggestion (to keep searching for potential war criminals) is going to destroy the country.
It's better to be rational, and look at an issue purely on its merits, instead of letting pride interfere. :)
Nenad, your list is incomplete. You forgot that the ICTY is a NATO court, set up by the West, and not created based on an UNSC resolution. You forgot that Milosevic was murdered in the Hague, because he was innocent and nobody could convict him being guilty, and not because he was old, ill, and he did everything to prolong his trial. You forgot that the ICTY is biased, because there were more Serbs convivcted than others, just like all courts are biased because there are more men than women imprisoned.
And, last but not least, you forgot to mention that the lunar landing never happened but was only staged and filmed in a studio by the evil US of A, to show that they can do better than the Russians :-)
--"That tribunal was founded only because nobody here wished to prosecute anyone and it has now been reduced only to the biggest personalities. There are many more people who should be held responsible."
"I hope they will answer in front of the courts in each of the states that have jurisdiction over them, but those courts will to a high degree have to depend on the material gathered at the Tribunal," said Dimitrijević.--
I don't know Mr. Dimitrijevic personally, but of course he speaks the truth. which you see so very rarely here. which is consistently covered up. where dissidents are consistently marginalized...
there are still thousands of "lower level" war criminals freely walking the streets of belgrade, of banja luka, prijedor, etc. i just re-listened to an interview we did of branko todorovic, who was mentioned here ONCE, but only when hhe compared natasa to stalin (no comment). according to him there were 10,000 men there (bosnia -- "republika srpska") that need to be put in front of the court. 10,000 just there! the interview was a few years ago, but believe me the # has not changed.
so let's get started!
and that is not to even mention the locating and opening/exhumation of further mass graves throughout serbia and "RS", and coming to terms with the horrors of mass industrialized burning of albanian bodies in 1999.
So Dimitrijevic works for the Belgrade Center for Human Rights, which is funded by, guess who? By the 'National Endowment for Democracy', which is funded by the US congress.
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm
So he works for outside interests, whose job it is to make Serbia weaker and more subservient. This explains his views very clearly. Follow the money people, and consider the source. Whatever Dimitrijevic and his colleagues say, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
Cheers!
So, even if there happened to be some guy who might have committed war crimes, yet did not receive an indictment from the Hague, and if the Serbian courts felt that they had enough evidence or whatever to trial him before the judiciary system, then it should be dropped, simply because, if we do so, we'd be subservient to foreign interests? Ha!
Time for a hastily-thought-up analogy: That's like saying that if my neighbour's house was burgled while he was away, and he wanted to ask me if I knew anything about it/saw anything/heard anything, I'd turn around and say, "I'm not going to tell you anything, otherwise, that'd make me subservient to you! I'm not subservient to anybody!"
Yep, Serbs must always assume that the USA is working behind the scenes in stories like this. For it simply can't be rational to question whether there might be dark forces at work in Serbia. Ratko and Radovan are heros. Sloba was only trying to keep Yugoslavia in tact. Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric, Serbs killed in WWII. Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding. Serbians never fired on Sarajevo, it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy. Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble. Serbs have always been the pacifists, and no should ever dare to interpret that as meaning "Serbia to the Pacific!"
Yep, Serbs must always assume that the USA is working behind the scenes in stories like this. For it simply can't be rational to question whether there might be dark forces at work in Serbia. Ratko and Radovan are heros. Sloba was only trying to keep Yugoslavia in tact. Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric, Serbs killed in WWII. Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding. Serbians never fired on Sarajevo, it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy. Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble. Serbs have always been the pacifists, and no should ever dare to interpret that as meaning "Serbia to the Pacific!"
(Nenad, 22 July 2011 20:13)
Nenad, you are so right.
"Ratko and Radovan are heros". Yes,
"Half the corpses they're digging up around Srebrenica are Serbs killed by Oric,".. Spot on. Oric even bragged about that.
. "Serbia didn't start the war in Bosnia, it was that Muslim who fired on that Serbian wedding." That one is true as well.
"it was the Muslims shooting at themselves for international sympathy."
Yes, sometims that happened too. A very good strategy that the other two sides adopted too. Remember Markale. Those mortars came from Muslim positions. Ask General MacKenzie. He tells it like it was.
"Serbs never did anything to Croats in Krajina, the Croats just decided in 1995 that 250,000 Serbs should be kicked out. Serbs never made life difficult for Albanians in Kosovo, it was the Albanians who caused all that trouble."
Croatians were arming themselves for war way before anything happened. All those weapons they smuggled though Hungarian border. I am guessing you didn't know.
Albanians were making trouble way, way before. Slowly ethnically cloeansing Serbs from Kosovo and when that wasn't moving fast enough for them they started murdering police. Someone had to step in and so something.
So you see you were right on all the points. What you failed to do is expand on it.
Some of the responses are rather humorous. So let me get this straight, the US cares for human rights?? LOL Good one Stefan, that is the joke of the day.
If Dimitrijevic is a true 'humanitarian', he should be demanding that the organizers of Operation Storm, which is US sponsored genocide, where the entire Serbian population was wiped out in one weekend, that these people be tried and jailed. Also, same thing for the NATO terrorists that bombed Serbia for 78 days around the clock. However, you won't hear that from Dimitrijevic, for he is working for these 'humanitarion bombers', and they are signing his paycheque.
It's really not hard to understand, use your brain, there's more than linquine up there.
and that is not to even mention the locating and opening/exhumation of further mass graves throughout serbia and "RS", and coming to terms with the horrors of mass industrialized burning of albanian bodies in 1999.
when will the truth finally come to fore??
roberto frisco
(roberto, 22 July 2011 18:29)
like i've told you many, many times, those claims were investigated by the hague, and turned up no evidence whatsoever http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/11/world/early-count-hints-at-fewer-kosovo-deaths.html
Nenad, your list is incomplete. You forgot that the ICTY is a NATO court, set up by the West, and not created based on an UNSC resolution. You forgot that Milosevic was murdered in the Hague, because he was innocent and nobody could convict him being guilty, and not because he was old, ill, and he did everything to prolong his trial. You forgot that the ICTY is biased, because there were more Serbs convivcted than others, just like all courts are biased because there are more men than women imprisoned.
And, last but not least, you forgot to mention that the lunar landing never happened but was only staged and filmed in a studio by the evil US of A, to show that they can do better than the Russians :-)
LOL Good one Stefan, that is the joke of the day.
(Dragan)
I'm not implying that they do; like any superpower (and any country), their foreign policy is basically to ensure their interests. My point was that Serbia should do what it thinks is right, yet not be so dismissive of all suggestions by other countries. And they certainly shouldn't try and do something simply to go against a country's wishes, for no real practical reason.
Basically, I believe they shouldn't feel pressured into doing anything, since I agree, I don't want to see Serbia be submissive to every little thing which the West demands - no citizen of any country would like to see that. But, on the other hand, I hardly think that this suggestion (to keep searching for potential war criminals) is going to destroy the country.
It's better to be rational, and look at an issue purely on its merits, instead of letting pride interfere. :)
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