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Friday, 22.07.2011.

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Bosnia-Herzegovina to report Priština to CEFTA

The government in Priština this week introduced a ten-percent tax on goods coming from Bosnia-Herzegovina, prompting this country to react.

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Bad Gorilla

pre 12 godina

That’s natural: if Serbia and Bosnia don't recognize the Kosovar government, Pristina has all the rights to impose the restrictions it wants...

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Question about Thaci. Yep, indeed, as EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244 the UN can undo every (!) decision made by Kosovo government. As Kosovo is still ruled by UN as per 1244...
(Ron, 25 July 2011 01:21)

No EULEX will undo this decision.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Question about Thaci. Yep, indeed, as EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244 the UN can undo every (!) decision made by Kosovo government. As Kosovo is still ruled by UN as per 1244...

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

As for Kosovo the pre-kla was waging a terrorist war against the Serbs before the west even had any interest in the region. Systematically killing police and civilians. Raping women and young girls. Lets not forget all the boycotting the Albanians did against the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Driving fear into the hearts of the Serbs. Just to seek a retaliation by the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Then cry foul to the world like they didn't do a thing wrong.

I truly believe that the KLA took a page out of the Bosnian Playbook and killed their own people to get world sympathy and intervene to save their terrorist ass's because they were about to lose the war they started years before 1999.

So basically you are saying what comes around goes around. Something I truly believe in my friend. Karma's a bitch.

LOL I kinda went on a tangent, you think. Have a great day.
(Dennis, 24 July 2011 05:35)

Dennis
The same goes for me my friend. I listen to different views as well. However your lack of information is rather alarming. The years 1998 and 1999 as well as all decade of 90's is not something that happened centuries ago. There are witnessies and well recorded and documented prooves about what happened. Check Human Rights Watch for instance.
As for KLA that you call terrorist group that is rather ironic. They were representatives of the people who were left with nothing else but to pick up the weapons and fight against Milosevic's regime who was imposing apartheid aka South Africa on 90% of Kosovo's population.
We also fought our own war with what we had. Must I remind you that we did not inherit the former SFRY weapon arsenal like Serbs did.
As for KLA soldiers killing their own people I must say that part of the town where I lived was deported and burned by Serbian forces. I myself had to pay 300 DM for each of 4 members of my family at each check point to the border with Macedonia. I faced these forces from the time they surrounded my part of town till the border.
As for that old saying what goes around comes around I agree with you 1000%. In fact this is coming around what has being going around.
Have a great day

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Simpatiku, I truly appreciate your reply. And I'll listen to any criticism.

I understand what you are trying to say. Its the same thing as what the K-albanians did to the Serbs after UN forces took over. Destruction of churches, homes, cemeteries, villages... Lets not forget murdering of
defenseless Serbs and other non-kla terrorist supporting minorities.

As for the RS they fought their own war. They didn't have the West recruit the muhajadin, (sorry if I spelled it wrong), aka, today's terrorists, to go out and slit the throats of Serbian men women and children. The Muslims even went out of the way to shell their own people in Sarajevo's open market and try to blame the Serbs. And lets not forget about the Croatians. It was a dirty war on all sided and yes I supported my people then and now.

As for Kosovo the pre-kla was waging a terrorist war against the Serbs before the west even had any interest in the region. Systematically killing police and civilians. Raping women and young girls. Lets not forget all the boycotting the Albanians did against the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Driving fear into the hearts of the Serbs. Just to seek a retaliation by the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Then cry foul to the world like they didn't do a thing wrong.

I truly believe that the KLA took a page out of the Bosnian Playbook and killed their own people to get world sympathy and intervene to save their terrorist ass's because they were about to lose the war they started years before 1999.

So basically you are saying what comes around goes around. Something I truly believe in my friend. Karma's a bitch.

LOL I kinda went on a tangent, you think. Have a great day.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

And a self embargo of Serbian goods and a tax hike of Bosnian goods because they won't recognize your UDI is blackmail. I guess that's the only thing Pristina knows how to do well. Good luck with that.
(Dennis, 23 July 2011 16:46)

Dennis
Have you ever heard about the word reciprocity? This simply means that after I have waited for you to come to your senses, I will start doing to you what you have being doing to me all time. Anyway, if you call this blackmail, this is what Serbia and genocidal creature called Republika Srpska have been doing to Kosovo.

icj1

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

The stamps are just fine. Really ?! UNMIK has repeatedly assured that they are in accordance with 1244 and in line with CEFTA provisions.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

The current custom stamps are acceptable for what is left from UNMIK. Check and see. The current custom stamps are acceptable for EULEX and EU as well. Check and see. Serbia considers the ban as violation? Who cares. There has to be a consensus in CEFTA for this ban to be called violation and Serbia will never get this consensus. History is history. At the time when CEFTA was signed Kosovo was UNMIK/Kosovo. After the independence the obligations and benefits of this agreement are inherited by Kosovo. The government of Kosovo is expected to act accordingly to the will of people of Kosovo not to what Serbia considers or not. Good luck on pressing CEFTA. :)

icj1

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

You say that... UNMIK has not said that's what should be on the custom stamps

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Without Serbia's recognition of your UDI, your so called independent state is globally dead in the water without a paddle. And a self embargo of Serbian goods and a tax hike of Bosnian goods because they won't recognize your UDI is blackmail. I guess that's the only thing Pristina knows how to do well. Good luck with that.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

First Kosovo is the rotating president for 2011, and Albania is for 2012.
(KOSO, 23 July 2011 01:08)

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.
(Simpatiku, 22 July 2011 21:59)

Oh, when I checked that link, posted by KOSO below, UNMIK/Kosovo was very existent on the CEFTA website, and, believe it or not, even in 2011, as CEFTA's annual chair of office.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.
(Simpatiku, 22 July 2011 21:59)

Of course there is... on paper :)

All Serbia is interested about is to say that, on paper, Kosovo is Serbia. Fine ! Let Serbia say that if it makes it happy !

icj1

pre 12 godina

"He also noted that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, and that therefore Sarajevo was fully within its right to reject the stamps."

Well, there is some contradiction here. Bosnia recognizes UNMIKs signature for Kosovo's CEFTA membership, but does not recognize the fact that UNMIK has not rejected the Kosovo's stamps. Bosnia can't have it both ways; even it recognizes or it does not recognize what UNMIK does.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"China, Azerbijan,Israel,etc... have not recognize Kosova, but they do recognize Kosova passports.
Especially China, gives visas in hash-hash way and tells Kosovars not to make it public"
====================================
Now how can something like this stay hush hush?
Imagine China sayingt to K Albanians they will recognise their passpors but don't tell the Serbs.
This is not kindgergarten you know.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Looks like a lot of people failed to connect the dots. First Kosovo is the rotating president for 2011, and Albania is for 2012. Secondly, this doesn't have as much bearing as you think....a member must complain to the "secretariat" not the president. So I don't understand what your point is? I know fully well that the president doesn't make the decision as the "clan society" of Kosovo does.

My point was that Kosovars will have more support in CEFTA since the meetings will be held in Kosovo and we are presiding member.


Let's leave CEFTA alone for a moment, did you just hear what COUNTRYMEN stated yesterday?





Thanks,

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.

Yes that might be true KOSO, but you see, CEFTA doesn't work exactly like the clan society in Kosovo does. Because UNMIK-KOSOVO is the current leader it doesn't mean that they make all the decisions. I understand that it might be hard for you to grasp that the international scene doesn't work like you think..

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

But thanks for your link, it clearly states who is a member and chair: "2011 UNMIK/Kosovo". And why don't use the offical member name 'UNMIK/Kosovo' on the customs stamps then? Hard to understand...
(Analyst, 22 July 2011 18:38)

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.

xhevdet

pre 12 godina

"The Bosnian ministry said that they were yet to receive official confirmation that the tax had been introduced, and that they would report it to the CEFTA secretariat once they did.

They also urged the Kosovo Albanian authorities in Priština to "annul their decision as soon as possible", because it violates the free trade agreement."

Then i would suggest you call Serbia couterpartners and start crying together with CEFTA or whatever you call it.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.
LOL!!
(KOSO, 22 July 2011 16:49)

And other Albanian commentors claimed here that Kosovo doesn't have to respect the CEFTA rules since Kosovo is not a member and didn't sign anything, only UNMIK-Kosovo is a member. Funny, funny... But thanks for your link, it clearly states who is a member and chair: "2011 UNMIK/Kosovo". And why don't use the offical member name 'UNMIK/Kosovo' on the customs stamps then? Hard to understand...

roberto

pre 12 godina

It is very sad, but Bosnia today is a Serbian puppet state!
It´s a shame!
(Poster, 22 July 2011 13:30)

Poor Bosnia is held hostage by the fascist clique of dodik and co. (blgd regime's proxy). as long as the "intl community" (all of us) continues to facilitate this horrendous state of affairs, there is no functioning political state. so we shouldn't blame "bosnia" but those who have and are destroying it.

roberto frisco

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

No double standards! Kosovo is still a Serbian province ruled by UN. This can change but until that time: Kosovo = UNMIK! Hey, and that is much more the peoples of Kurdistan and TIbet have...
(Ron, 22 July 2011 14:20)

Didn't know that PM Thaci is a UNMIK official!?
Ops, where is unmik srsg nowdays?

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.

http://www.cefta2006.com/chair-office

LOL!!





Thanks,

mark kola

pre 12 godina

three obvious things come out -
1. serbia has no control over kosova
2. bosnia has no control over kosova
3. since neither serbia nor bosnia recognize kosova who are they protesting against -:) and why do they want to sell their goods to a place they dont recognize. obviously albanians are in charge and thus all they can do is sit and watch.

lids

pre 12 godina

All Serbian companies have offices in Macedonia-so getting goods to Serbian population won`t be a problem..Let`s just hope Bosnians were as smart..

LKJH

pre 12 godina

"He also noted that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, and that therefore Sarajevo was fully within its right to reject the stamps."

Ok, so sell to UNMIK. What do you want from Kosova?

Ron

pre 12 godina

Do Albanias really want to create problems? UNMIK is part of this economic agreement. So use the word UNMIK!

You think China, Russia or USA would agree on such a thing? So then why would Bosnia or Serbia?

No double standards! Kosovo is still a Serbian province ruled by UN. This can change but until that time: Kosovo = UNMIK! Hey, and that is much more the peoples of Kurdistan and TIbet have...

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Funny that some 'politicians' in Pristina think economic boycotts and customs would work nowadays. And at the same time, they pretend that 'Kosova' is getting closer to the EU. Funny, somehow. Maybe someone should explain them that the EU is a, first of all, a common economic zone, without customs and free trade between the countries.

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

Its good to se that Bosnian state institutions are working somewhat effective :-)
This time RS president Dodik didn't put obstacles in Sarajevos way ;-)

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

"Bosnia-Herzegovina has not recognized Kosovo, therefore the stamps or their customs service also cannot be recognized by Bosnia-Herzegovina," Zirojević explained.

China, Azerbijan,Israel,etc... have not recognize Kosova, but they do recognize Kosova passports.
Especially China, gives visas in hash-hash way and tells Kosovars not to make it public. Lots of goods come from chine, such as porcelain,escelators,etc...
It is called Economics fellows.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Since you claim that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, then why do not try to ask UNMIK to allow the BH goods, or Serbian (for that matter).

Or perhaps you forgot that that UNMIK is history, since 2008, and you have got to deal with new reality.

You like it or not is not important, but vital is to find practical agreements that suits Kosovo too.

Economic segment is more important than the political one. The Seal of Kosovo customs seem to be increasing unemployment in Serbia and BH. This will increase employment in Kosovo since locals will fill the gap of neighboring states.

It is interesting to see whether "The Seal of Kosovo customs" will prove beneficial to all the region since when the push comes to shove people will give more importance to economic rather than political issues

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

"Bosnia-Herzegovina has not recognized Kosovo, therefore the stamps or their customs service also cannot be recognized by Bosnia-Herzegovina," Zirojević explained.

China, Azerbijan,Israel,etc... have not recognize Kosova, but they do recognize Kosova passports.
Especially China, gives visas in hash-hash way and tells Kosovars not to make it public. Lots of goods come from chine, such as porcelain,escelators,etc...
It is called Economics fellows.

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

Its good to se that Bosnian state institutions are working somewhat effective :-)
This time RS president Dodik didn't put obstacles in Sarajevos way ;-)

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Since you claim that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, then why do not try to ask UNMIK to allow the BH goods, or Serbian (for that matter).

Or perhaps you forgot that that UNMIK is history, since 2008, and you have got to deal with new reality.

You like it or not is not important, but vital is to find practical agreements that suits Kosovo too.

Economic segment is more important than the political one. The Seal of Kosovo customs seem to be increasing unemployment in Serbia and BH. This will increase employment in Kosovo since locals will fill the gap of neighboring states.

It is interesting to see whether "The Seal of Kosovo customs" will prove beneficial to all the region since when the push comes to shove people will give more importance to economic rather than political issues

mark kola

pre 12 godina

three obvious things come out -
1. serbia has no control over kosova
2. bosnia has no control over kosova
3. since neither serbia nor bosnia recognize kosova who are they protesting against -:) and why do they want to sell their goods to a place they dont recognize. obviously albanians are in charge and thus all they can do is sit and watch.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Do Albanias really want to create problems? UNMIK is part of this economic agreement. So use the word UNMIK!

You think China, Russia or USA would agree on such a thing? So then why would Bosnia or Serbia?

No double standards! Kosovo is still a Serbian province ruled by UN. This can change but until that time: Kosovo = UNMIK! Hey, and that is much more the peoples of Kurdistan and TIbet have...

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Funny that some 'politicians' in Pristina think economic boycotts and customs would work nowadays. And at the same time, they pretend that 'Kosova' is getting closer to the EU. Funny, somehow. Maybe someone should explain them that the EU is a, first of all, a common economic zone, without customs and free trade between the countries.

LKJH

pre 12 godina

"He also noted that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, and that therefore Sarajevo was fully within its right to reject the stamps."

Ok, so sell to UNMIK. What do you want from Kosova?

lids

pre 12 godina

All Serbian companies have offices in Macedonia-so getting goods to Serbian population won`t be a problem..Let`s just hope Bosnians were as smart..

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

No double standards! Kosovo is still a Serbian province ruled by UN. This can change but until that time: Kosovo = UNMIK! Hey, and that is much more the peoples of Kurdistan and TIbet have...
(Ron, 22 July 2011 14:20)

Didn't know that PM Thaci is a UNMIK official!?
Ops, where is unmik srsg nowdays?

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.
LOL!!
(KOSO, 22 July 2011 16:49)

And other Albanian commentors claimed here that Kosovo doesn't have to respect the CEFTA rules since Kosovo is not a member and didn't sign anything, only UNMIK-Kosovo is a member. Funny, funny... But thanks for your link, it clearly states who is a member and chair: "2011 UNMIK/Kosovo". And why don't use the offical member name 'UNMIK/Kosovo' on the customs stamps then? Hard to understand...

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.

Yes that might be true KOSO, but you see, CEFTA doesn't work exactly like the clan society in Kosovo does. Because UNMIK-KOSOVO is the current leader it doesn't mean that they make all the decisions. I understand that it might be hard for you to grasp that the international scene doesn't work like you think..

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.
(Simpatiku, 22 July 2011 21:59)

Oh, when I checked that link, posted by KOSO below, UNMIK/Kosovo was very existent on the CEFTA website, and, believe it or not, even in 2011, as CEFTA's annual chair of office.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

First Kosovo is the rotating president for 2011, and Albania is for 2012.
(KOSO, 23 July 2011 01:08)

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.

http://www.cefta2006.com/chair-office

LOL!!





Thanks,

roberto

pre 12 godina

It is very sad, but Bosnia today is a Serbian puppet state!
It´s a shame!
(Poster, 22 July 2011 13:30)

Poor Bosnia is held hostage by the fascist clique of dodik and co. (blgd regime's proxy). as long as the "intl community" (all of us) continues to facilitate this horrendous state of affairs, there is no functioning political state. so we shouldn't blame "bosnia" but those who have and are destroying it.

roberto frisco

xhevdet

pre 12 godina

"The Bosnian ministry said that they were yet to receive official confirmation that the tax had been introduced, and that they would report it to the CEFTA secretariat once they did.

They also urged the Kosovo Albanian authorities in Priština to "annul their decision as soon as possible", because it violates the free trade agreement."

Then i would suggest you call Serbia couterpartners and start crying together with CEFTA or whatever you call it.

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Without Serbia's recognition of your UDI, your so called independent state is globally dead in the water without a paddle. And a self embargo of Serbian goods and a tax hike of Bosnian goods because they won't recognize your UDI is blackmail. I guess that's the only thing Pristina knows how to do well. Good luck with that.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

But thanks for your link, it clearly states who is a member and chair: "2011 UNMIK/Kosovo". And why don't use the offical member name 'UNMIK/Kosovo' on the customs stamps then? Hard to understand...
(Analyst, 22 July 2011 18:38)

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"China, Azerbijan,Israel,etc... have not recognize Kosova, but they do recognize Kosova passports.
Especially China, gives visas in hash-hash way and tells Kosovars not to make it public"
====================================
Now how can something like this stay hush hush?
Imagine China sayingt to K Albanians they will recognise their passpors but don't tell the Serbs.
This is not kindgergarten you know.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Looks like a lot of people failed to connect the dots. First Kosovo is the rotating president for 2011, and Albania is for 2012. Secondly, this doesn't have as much bearing as you think....a member must complain to the "secretariat" not the president. So I don't understand what your point is? I know fully well that the president doesn't make the decision as the "clan society" of Kosovo does.

My point was that Kosovars will have more support in CEFTA since the meetings will be held in Kosovo and we are presiding member.


Let's leave CEFTA alone for a moment, did you just hear what COUNTRYMEN stated yesterday?





Thanks,

icj1

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

You say that... UNMIK has not said that's what should be on the custom stamps

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

And a self embargo of Serbian goods and a tax hike of Bosnian goods because they won't recognize your UDI is blackmail. I guess that's the only thing Pristina knows how to do well. Good luck with that.
(Dennis, 23 July 2011 16:46)

Dennis
Have you ever heard about the word reciprocity? This simply means that after I have waited for you to come to your senses, I will start doing to you what you have being doing to me all time. Anyway, if you call this blackmail, this is what Serbia and genocidal creature called Republika Srpska have been doing to Kosovo.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Question about Thaci. Yep, indeed, as EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244 the UN can undo every (!) decision made by Kosovo government. As Kosovo is still ruled by UN as per 1244...

icj1

pre 12 godina

"He also noted that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, and that therefore Sarajevo was fully within its right to reject the stamps."

Well, there is some contradiction here. Bosnia recognizes UNMIKs signature for Kosovo's CEFTA membership, but does not recognize the fact that UNMIK has not rejected the Kosovo's stamps. Bosnia can't have it both ways; even it recognizes or it does not recognize what UNMIK does.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.
(Simpatiku, 22 July 2011 21:59)

Of course there is... on paper :)

All Serbia is interested about is to say that, on paper, Kosovo is Serbia. Fine ! Let Serbia say that if it makes it happy !

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

The current custom stamps are acceptable for what is left from UNMIK. Check and see. The current custom stamps are acceptable for EULEX and EU as well. Check and see. Serbia considers the ban as violation? Who cares. There has to be a consensus in CEFTA for this ban to be called violation and Serbia will never get this consensus. History is history. At the time when CEFTA was signed Kosovo was UNMIK/Kosovo. After the independence the obligations and benefits of this agreement are inherited by Kosovo. The government of Kosovo is expected to act accordingly to the will of people of Kosovo not to what Serbia considers or not. Good luck on pressing CEFTA. :)

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Simpatiku, I truly appreciate your reply. And I'll listen to any criticism.

I understand what you are trying to say. Its the same thing as what the K-albanians did to the Serbs after UN forces took over. Destruction of churches, homes, cemeteries, villages... Lets not forget murdering of
defenseless Serbs and other non-kla terrorist supporting minorities.

As for the RS they fought their own war. They didn't have the West recruit the muhajadin, (sorry if I spelled it wrong), aka, today's terrorists, to go out and slit the throats of Serbian men women and children. The Muslims even went out of the way to shell their own people in Sarajevo's open market and try to blame the Serbs. And lets not forget about the Croatians. It was a dirty war on all sided and yes I supported my people then and now.

As for Kosovo the pre-kla was waging a terrorist war against the Serbs before the west even had any interest in the region. Systematically killing police and civilians. Raping women and young girls. Lets not forget all the boycotting the Albanians did against the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Driving fear into the hearts of the Serbs. Just to seek a retaliation by the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Then cry foul to the world like they didn't do a thing wrong.

I truly believe that the KLA took a page out of the Bosnian Playbook and killed their own people to get world sympathy and intervene to save their terrorist ass's because they were about to lose the war they started years before 1999.

So basically you are saying what comes around goes around. Something I truly believe in my friend. Karma's a bitch.

LOL I kinda went on a tangent, you think. Have a great day.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

As for Kosovo the pre-kla was waging a terrorist war against the Serbs before the west even had any interest in the region. Systematically killing police and civilians. Raping women and young girls. Lets not forget all the boycotting the Albanians did against the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Driving fear into the hearts of the Serbs. Just to seek a retaliation by the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Then cry foul to the world like they didn't do a thing wrong.

I truly believe that the KLA took a page out of the Bosnian Playbook and killed their own people to get world sympathy and intervene to save their terrorist ass's because they were about to lose the war they started years before 1999.

So basically you are saying what comes around goes around. Something I truly believe in my friend. Karma's a bitch.

LOL I kinda went on a tangent, you think. Have a great day.
(Dennis, 24 July 2011 05:35)

Dennis
The same goes for me my friend. I listen to different views as well. However your lack of information is rather alarming. The years 1998 and 1999 as well as all decade of 90's is not something that happened centuries ago. There are witnessies and well recorded and documented prooves about what happened. Check Human Rights Watch for instance.
As for KLA that you call terrorist group that is rather ironic. They were representatives of the people who were left with nothing else but to pick up the weapons and fight against Milosevic's regime who was imposing apartheid aka South Africa on 90% of Kosovo's population.
We also fought our own war with what we had. Must I remind you that we did not inherit the former SFRY weapon arsenal like Serbs did.
As for KLA soldiers killing their own people I must say that part of the town where I lived was deported and burned by Serbian forces. I myself had to pay 300 DM for each of 4 members of my family at each check point to the border with Macedonia. I faced these forces from the time they surrounded my part of town till the border.
As for that old saying what goes around comes around I agree with you 1000%. In fact this is coming around what has being going around.
Have a great day

icj1

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

The stamps are just fine. Really ?! UNMIK has repeatedly assured that they are in accordance with 1244 and in line with CEFTA provisions.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Question about Thaci. Yep, indeed, as EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244 the UN can undo every (!) decision made by Kosovo government. As Kosovo is still ruled by UN as per 1244...
(Ron, 25 July 2011 01:21)

No EULEX will undo this decision.

Bad Gorilla

pre 12 godina

That’s natural: if Serbia and Bosnia don't recognize the Kosovar government, Pristina has all the rights to impose the restrictions it wants...

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

"Bosnia-Herzegovina has not recognized Kosovo, therefore the stamps or their customs service also cannot be recognized by Bosnia-Herzegovina," Zirojević explained.

China, Azerbijan,Israel,etc... have not recognize Kosova, but they do recognize Kosova passports.
Especially China, gives visas in hash-hash way and tells Kosovars not to make it public. Lots of goods come from chine, such as porcelain,escelators,etc...
It is called Economics fellows.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Since you claim that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, then why do not try to ask UNMIK to allow the BH goods, or Serbian (for that matter).

Or perhaps you forgot that that UNMIK is history, since 2008, and you have got to deal with new reality.

You like it or not is not important, but vital is to find practical agreements that suits Kosovo too.

Economic segment is more important than the political one. The Seal of Kosovo customs seem to be increasing unemployment in Serbia and BH. This will increase employment in Kosovo since locals will fill the gap of neighboring states.

It is interesting to see whether "The Seal of Kosovo customs" will prove beneficial to all the region since when the push comes to shove people will give more importance to economic rather than political issues

Ron

pre 12 godina

Do Albanias really want to create problems? UNMIK is part of this economic agreement. So use the word UNMIK!

You think China, Russia or USA would agree on such a thing? So then why would Bosnia or Serbia?

No double standards! Kosovo is still a Serbian province ruled by UN. This can change but until that time: Kosovo = UNMIK! Hey, and that is much more the peoples of Kurdistan and TIbet have...

mark kola

pre 12 godina

three obvious things come out -
1. serbia has no control over kosova
2. bosnia has no control over kosova
3. since neither serbia nor bosnia recognize kosova who are they protesting against -:) and why do they want to sell their goods to a place they dont recognize. obviously albanians are in charge and thus all they can do is sit and watch.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Funny that some 'politicians' in Pristina think economic boycotts and customs would work nowadays. And at the same time, they pretend that 'Kosova' is getting closer to the EU. Funny, somehow. Maybe someone should explain them that the EU is a, first of all, a common economic zone, without customs and free trade between the countries.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.

http://www.cefta2006.com/chair-office

LOL!!





Thanks,

roberto

pre 12 godina

It is very sad, but Bosnia today is a Serbian puppet state!
It´s a shame!
(Poster, 22 July 2011 13:30)

Poor Bosnia is held hostage by the fascist clique of dodik and co. (blgd regime's proxy). as long as the "intl community" (all of us) continues to facilitate this horrendous state of affairs, there is no functioning political state. so we shouldn't blame "bosnia" but those who have and are destroying it.

roberto frisco

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

Its good to se that Bosnian state institutions are working somewhat effective :-)
This time RS president Dodik didn't put obstacles in Sarajevos way ;-)

lids

pre 12 godina

All Serbian companies have offices in Macedonia-so getting goods to Serbian population won`t be a problem..Let`s just hope Bosnians were as smart..

LKJH

pre 12 godina

"He also noted that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, and that therefore Sarajevo was fully within its right to reject the stamps."

Ok, so sell to UNMIK. What do you want from Kosova?

xhevdet

pre 12 godina

"The Bosnian ministry said that they were yet to receive official confirmation that the tax had been introduced, and that they would report it to the CEFTA secretariat once they did.

They also urged the Kosovo Albanian authorities in Priština to "annul their decision as soon as possible", because it violates the free trade agreement."

Then i would suggest you call Serbia couterpartners and start crying together with CEFTA or whatever you call it.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

No double standards! Kosovo is still a Serbian province ruled by UN. This can change but until that time: Kosovo = UNMIK! Hey, and that is much more the peoples of Kurdistan and TIbet have...
(Ron, 22 July 2011 14:20)

Didn't know that PM Thaci is a UNMIK official!?
Ops, where is unmik srsg nowdays?

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

But thanks for your link, it clearly states who is a member and chair: "2011 UNMIK/Kosovo". And why don't use the offical member name 'UNMIK/Kosovo' on the customs stamps then? Hard to understand...
(Analyst, 22 July 2011 18:38)

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.
LOL!!
(KOSO, 22 July 2011 16:49)

And other Albanian commentors claimed here that Kosovo doesn't have to respect the CEFTA rules since Kosovo is not a member and didn't sign anything, only UNMIK-Kosovo is a member. Funny, funny... But thanks for your link, it clearly states who is a member and chair: "2011 UNMIK/Kosovo". And why don't use the offical member name 'UNMIK/Kosovo' on the customs stamps then? Hard to understand...

icj1

pre 12 godina

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.
(Simpatiku, 22 July 2011 21:59)

Of course there is... on paper :)

All Serbia is interested about is to say that, on paper, Kosovo is Serbia. Fine ! Let Serbia say that if it makes it happy !

icj1

pre 12 godina

"He also noted that it was UNMIK, rather that the government of Kosovo, who signed the CEFTA membership, and that therefore Sarajevo was fully within its right to reject the stamps."

Well, there is some contradiction here. Bosnia recognizes UNMIKs signature for Kosovo's CEFTA membership, but does not recognize the fact that UNMIK has not rejected the Kosovo's stamps. Bosnia can't have it both ways; even it recognizes or it does not recognize what UNMIK does.

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

Let me remind everyone that BiH can complain to CEFTA.......BUT Kosovo is the rotating president or "chair in office" right now.

Yes that might be true KOSO, but you see, CEFTA doesn't work exactly like the clan society in Kosovo does. Because UNMIK-KOSOVO is the current leader it doesn't mean that they make all the decisions. I understand that it might be hard for you to grasp that the international scene doesn't work like you think..

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Looks like a lot of people failed to connect the dots. First Kosovo is the rotating president for 2011, and Albania is for 2012. Secondly, this doesn't have as much bearing as you think....a member must complain to the "secretariat" not the president. So I don't understand what your point is? I know fully well that the president doesn't make the decision as the "clan society" of Kosovo does.

My point was that Kosovars will have more support in CEFTA since the meetings will be held in Kosovo and we are presiding member.


Let's leave CEFTA alone for a moment, did you just hear what COUNTRYMEN stated yesterday?





Thanks,

icj1

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

The stamps are just fine. Really ?! UNMIK has repeatedly assured that they are in accordance with 1244 and in line with CEFTA provisions.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

The current custom stamps are acceptable for what is left from UNMIK. Check and see. The current custom stamps are acceptable for EULEX and EU as well. Check and see. Serbia considers the ban as violation? Who cares. There has to be a consensus in CEFTA for this ban to be called violation and Serbia will never get this consensus. History is history. At the time when CEFTA was signed Kosovo was UNMIK/Kosovo. After the independence the obligations and benefits of this agreement are inherited by Kosovo. The government of Kosovo is expected to act accordingly to the will of people of Kosovo not to what Serbia considers or not. Good luck on pressing CEFTA. :)

icj1

pre 12 godina

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.
(Analyst, 23 July 2011 13:36)

You say that... UNMIK has not said that's what should be on the custom stamps

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

And a self embargo of Serbian goods and a tax hike of Bosnian goods because they won't recognize your UDI is blackmail. I guess that's the only thing Pristina knows how to do well. Good luck with that.
(Dennis, 23 July 2011 16:46)

Dennis
Have you ever heard about the word reciprocity? This simply means that after I have waited for you to come to your senses, I will start doing to you what you have being doing to me all time. Anyway, if you call this blackmail, this is what Serbia and genocidal creature called Republika Srpska have been doing to Kosovo.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"China, Azerbijan,Israel,etc... have not recognize Kosova, but they do recognize Kosova passports.
Especially China, gives visas in hash-hash way and tells Kosovars not to make it public"
====================================
Now how can something like this stay hush hush?
Imagine China sayingt to K Albanians they will recognise their passpors but don't tell the Serbs.
This is not kindgergarten you know.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Because there is no UNMIK/Kosovo any more? However if it's still hard to understand check yourself.
(Simpatiku, 22 July 2011 21:59)

Oh, when I checked that link, posted by KOSO below, UNMIK/Kosovo was very existent on the CEFTA website, and, believe it or not, even in 2011, as CEFTA's annual chair of office.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

First Kosovo is the rotating president for 2011, and Albania is for 2012.
(KOSO, 23 July 2011 01:08)

You didn't read your own link, KOSO? Funny! It says rotating president for 2011 is UNMIK/Kosovo - and that's what should be on the custom stamps, too.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

As for Kosovo the pre-kla was waging a terrorist war against the Serbs before the west even had any interest in the region. Systematically killing police and civilians. Raping women and young girls. Lets not forget all the boycotting the Albanians did against the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Driving fear into the hearts of the Serbs. Just to seek a retaliation by the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Then cry foul to the world like they didn't do a thing wrong.

I truly believe that the KLA took a page out of the Bosnian Playbook and killed their own people to get world sympathy and intervene to save their terrorist ass's because they were about to lose the war they started years before 1999.

So basically you are saying what comes around goes around. Something I truly believe in my friend. Karma's a bitch.

LOL I kinda went on a tangent, you think. Have a great day.
(Dennis, 24 July 2011 05:35)

Dennis
The same goes for me my friend. I listen to different views as well. However your lack of information is rather alarming. The years 1998 and 1999 as well as all decade of 90's is not something that happened centuries ago. There are witnessies and well recorded and documented prooves about what happened. Check Human Rights Watch for instance.
As for KLA that you call terrorist group that is rather ironic. They were representatives of the people who were left with nothing else but to pick up the weapons and fight against Milosevic's regime who was imposing apartheid aka South Africa on 90% of Kosovo's population.
We also fought our own war with what we had. Must I remind you that we did not inherit the former SFRY weapon arsenal like Serbs did.
As for KLA soldiers killing their own people I must say that part of the town where I lived was deported and burned by Serbian forces. I myself had to pay 300 DM for each of 4 members of my family at each check point to the border with Macedonia. I faced these forces from the time they surrounded my part of town till the border.
As for that old saying what goes around comes around I agree with you 1000%. In fact this is coming around what has being going around.
Have a great day

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Without Serbia's recognition of your UDI, your so called independent state is globally dead in the water without a paddle. And a self embargo of Serbian goods and a tax hike of Bosnian goods because they won't recognize your UDI is blackmail. I guess that's the only thing Pristina knows how to do well. Good luck with that.

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Simpatiku, I truly appreciate your reply. And I'll listen to any criticism.

I understand what you are trying to say. Its the same thing as what the K-albanians did to the Serbs after UN forces took over. Destruction of churches, homes, cemeteries, villages... Lets not forget murdering of
defenseless Serbs and other non-kla terrorist supporting minorities.

As for the RS they fought their own war. They didn't have the West recruit the muhajadin, (sorry if I spelled it wrong), aka, today's terrorists, to go out and slit the throats of Serbian men women and children. The Muslims even went out of the way to shell their own people in Sarajevo's open market and try to blame the Serbs. And lets not forget about the Croatians. It was a dirty war on all sided and yes I supported my people then and now.

As for Kosovo the pre-kla was waging a terrorist war against the Serbs before the west even had any interest in the region. Systematically killing police and civilians. Raping women and young girls. Lets not forget all the boycotting the Albanians did against the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Driving fear into the hearts of the Serbs. Just to seek a retaliation by the Yugoslavian (Serbian) government. Then cry foul to the world like they didn't do a thing wrong.

I truly believe that the KLA took a page out of the Bosnian Playbook and killed their own people to get world sympathy and intervene to save their terrorist ass's because they were about to lose the war they started years before 1999.

So basically you are saying what comes around goes around. Something I truly believe in my friend. Karma's a bitch.

LOL I kinda went on a tangent, you think. Have a great day.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Question about Thaci. Yep, indeed, as EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244 the UN can undo every (!) decision made by Kosovo government. As Kosovo is still ruled by UN as per 1244...

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Question about Thaci. Yep, indeed, as EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244 the UN can undo every (!) decision made by Kosovo government. As Kosovo is still ruled by UN as per 1244...
(Ron, 25 July 2011 01:21)

No EULEX will undo this decision.

Bad Gorilla

pre 12 godina

That’s natural: if Serbia and Bosnia don't recognize the Kosovar government, Pristina has all the rights to impose the restrictions it wants...