Greek PM: Time for EU to wake up

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou said Saturday it was "time for Europe to wake up" and find a conclusive solution to his nation's debt crisis.

B92

Here is the Greek prime minister whose only expertise largely consists of understanding what the IMF and EU financiers want, calling on EU to wake up and solve his problems.It seems to me Papadreou hasn't realised yet that he and his government have already foregone their right to contact economic policy and instead he acts as a debt collector for the foreign bankers.In becoming a debt collector Papandreou has no popular mandate, and the constitutional framework under which they operate has never been approved in either a constitutional convention or by a referendum.

He's also blind to the overwhelming evidence that more and more 'average' Greeks are unwilling to suffer for decades so that exorbitant debts can be repaid. They have not gained when the going was good, and they will only endure pain as the austerity starts biting.
But why should the Greeks continue to accept an economic system which is inherently unjust now that they are faced with the very real consequences, the true face, of its injustices?

If i were you Mr Papandreou,instead of going to Brussels with a begging bowl,i would've defaulted and then proceeded to nationalise those business and any assets owned by the same ruling class that refuses to pay taxes-reports in the Greek press puts those unpaid taxes in excess of 50 billion euros.Either they are unprofitable, in which case the state is doing them a favour by taking over their business, or they are guilty of tax evasion in which case their business should be seized and auctioned.

The present financial difficulties in Greece should not be seen as a failure, or shame - but as an opportunity - to revolutionize the formal democratic system - intimately tied to the parasitic capitalist order as it is - into an open and transparent one that might point to a new way forward.

ATHENS -- Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou said Saturday it was "time for Europe to wake up" and find a conclusive solution to his nation's debt crisis.

As a big fan of Greek history and culture I do have one serious question. Why is it Europes responsibility to solve Greeces problem? As any responsible parent does with their child - they DO NOT solve the childs problem , they teach them to solve it on their own.

Hate to be utterly brutal Mr Prime Minister - but you got yourselves in this mess - you get yourself out.

Blaming others only makes you look weak and pityful. Just look at any nationalist.

Indeed, Greece (and Ireland) should have done what Argentina & Iceland did.

Both stood up against the IMF, both came out as winners. No threats and bullying from the western wolf-pack could make them change their minds. Therefore, Greece is not by any foreseeable future an independent country, if, that is,something strong and constructive would emerge from the outraged crowds. For the Greeks at the front and for the rest of us, i do hope so, it must.

Who would have known just a year ago that Kosova in the future would have the EURO as currency and Greece not?
(Agim Kelmendi, 17 July 2011 23:47)

Are you that dumb? You have the euro because you never got around to making a currency of your own after you left the dinar. You honestly believe using the euro gives you a better economy? LOL where does the internet get these people? Do you even have the slightest bit of knowledge about economy in Kosovo? Probably not since you apparently don't live there based on what rubbish your writing. The IMF just shut off Kosovo's loan money. Thanks again for the Hohxa propaganda :)

Why doesn't he ask Turkey for help?

Indeed, Greece (and Ireland) should have done what Argentina & Iceland did.

Both stood up against the IMF, both came out as winners. No threats and bullying from the western wolf-pack could make them change their minds. Therefore, Greece is not by any foreseeable future an independent country, if, that is,something strong and constructive would emerge from the outraged crowds. For the Greeks at the front and for the rest of us, i do hope so, it must.
(wtf, 17 July 2011 17:45)


wft,

I don't know your background in economics but, your ideas are very naive. If Greece were to do as Argentina and Iceland as you suggest and "stood up" to the IMF, then it would spell years of economic suffering for the Greek people. Remember, there are very serious repercussions involved for the actions you recommend. Now, let me say, I see that the Greeks ,also, have inherited "Inat" from the Ottoman Turks. However, remember what happened to the Ottoman Empire. So, let me again state, "you don't want to go down the road" that you suggest!

Also, you must face reality, nobody is bullying Greece. Greece is responsible for its own actions.

Unbelivable what the Greeks can demand!
In a year they will have defaulted and won't have EURO as currency anymore. Say hello to the new Drachma!
However Kosova will continue to have the Euro, we have had a lots of progress since we became independent.
Who would have known just a year ago that Kosova in the future would have the EURO as currency and Greece not?

Why doesn't he ask Turkey for help?

ATHENS -- Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou said Saturday it was "time for Europe to wake up" and find a conclusive solution to his nation's debt crisis.

As a big fan of Greek history and culture I do have one serious question. Why is it Europes responsibility to solve Greeces problem? As any responsible parent does with their child - they DO NOT solve the childs problem , they teach them to solve it on their own.

Hate to be utterly brutal Mr Prime Minister - but you got yourselves in this mess - you get yourself out.

Blaming others only makes you look weak and pityful. Just look at any nationalist.

Indeed, Greece (and Ireland) should have done what Argentina & Iceland did.

Both stood up against the IMF, both came out as winners. No threats and bullying from the western wolf-pack could make them change their minds. Therefore, Greece is not by any foreseeable future an independent country, if, that is,something strong and constructive would emerge from the outraged crowds. For the Greeks at the front and for the rest of us, i do hope so, it must.
(wtf, 17 July 2011 17:45)


wft,

I don't know your background in economics but, your ideas are very naive. If Greece were to do as Argentina and Iceland as you suggest and "stood up" to the IMF, then it would spell years of economic suffering for the Greek people. Remember, there are very serious repercussions involved for the actions you recommend. Now, let me say, I see that the Greeks ,also, have inherited "Inat" from the Ottoman Turks. However, remember what happened to the Ottoman Empire. So, let me again state, "you don't want to go down the road" that you suggest!

Also, you must face reality, nobody is bullying Greece. Greece is responsible for its own actions.

Unbelivable what the Greeks can demand!
In a year they will have defaulted and won't have EURO as currency anymore. Say hello to the new Drachma!
However Kosova will continue to have the Euro, we have had a lots of progress since we became independent.
Who would have known just a year ago that Kosova in the future would have the EURO as currency and Greece not?

Indeed, Greece (and Ireland) should have done what Argentina & Iceland did.

Both stood up against the IMF, both came out as winners. No threats and bullying from the western wolf-pack could make them change their minds. Therefore, Greece is not by any foreseeable future an independent country, if, that is,something strong and constructive would emerge from the outraged crowds. For the Greeks at the front and for the rest of us, i do hope so, it must.

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou said Saturday it was "time for Europe to wake up" and find a conclusive solution to his nation's debt crisis.

B92

Here is the Greek prime minister whose only expertise largely consists of understanding what the IMF and EU financiers want, calling on EU to wake up and solve his problems.It seems to me Papadreou hasn't realised yet that he and his government have already foregone their right to contact economic policy and instead he acts as a debt collector for the foreign bankers.In becoming a debt collector Papandreou has no popular mandate, and the constitutional framework under which they operate has never been approved in either a constitutional convention or by a referendum.

He's also blind to the overwhelming evidence that more and more 'average' Greeks are unwilling to suffer for decades so that exorbitant debts can be repaid. They have not gained when the going was good, and they will only endure pain as the austerity starts biting.
But why should the Greeks continue to accept an economic system which is inherently unjust now that they are faced with the very real consequences, the true face, of its injustices?

If i were you Mr Papandreou,instead of going to Brussels with a begging bowl,i would've defaulted and then proceeded to nationalise those business and any assets owned by the same ruling class that refuses to pay taxes-reports in the Greek press puts those unpaid taxes in excess of 50 billion euros.Either they are unprofitable, in which case the state is doing them a favour by taking over their business, or they are guilty of tax evasion in which case their business should be seized and auctioned.

The present financial difficulties in Greece should not be seen as a failure, or shame - but as an opportunity - to revolutionize the formal democratic system - intimately tied to the parasitic capitalist order as it is - into an open and transparent one that might point to a new way forward.

Who would have known just a year ago that Kosova in the future would have the EURO as currency and Greece not?
(Agim Kelmendi, 17 July 2011 23:47)

Are you that dumb? You have the euro because you never got around to making a currency of your own after you left the dinar. You honestly believe using the euro gives you a better economy? LOL where does the internet get these people? Do you even have the slightest bit of knowledge about economy in Kosovo? Probably not since you apparently don't live there based on what rubbish your writing. The IMF just shut off Kosovo's loan money. Thanks again for the Hohxa propaganda :)