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Monday, 27.06.2011.

12:52

Gaza flotilla set to leave Greece, Israel steadfast

Hundreds of activists are preparing to board aid ships bound for Gaza this week in defiance of an Israeli blockade, RFE/RL reported.

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andrej

pre 12 godina

There's 10s worse and bloodier conflicts in the world but antisemites are fixated on Israel? Why? Because they're antisemites thinking it's perfect mask to hide their ugly faces. Palestinian human rights my behind. Any honest person sees that Israel is surrounded and fighting to survive. Not more not less. As a Serb I completely support them what the hell. If you want to bring palestinians cookies go to Rafah. If you want to go through sea blockades you've been warned. End of story.

mark

pre 12 godina

Ian please tell me why being a Zionist makes someone a racist,when as i said in my previous post it is a person or movement that believes in a homeland for the Jews.
As for there being Jews who oppose Zionism,they are a very small minority mainly Ultra Orthodox Neturi Karta and a handful of socialists and Marxists Jews.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

@ Mark

I'm not too fussed what MLK has to say about Zionism, it wasn't exactly his field.

Also you should learn what Anti-Semitism means... well what it meant before Zionists hijacked the term. It's literal meaning is being against/ opposed to Semitic people such as Arabs, Hebrews, Berbers ect. Therefore I love to laugh at people who refer to Hamas as being Anti-Semitic.

Also not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews, therefore opposing Zionism isn't opposing Judaism.

However non-Zionist Jews are usually ridiculed and made to feel small by been labelled as "Self Hating Jews". Take me for example, there are many Jewish people I idolise, I have a handful of Jewish friends; however if I criticise Israel I get labelled "Anti-Semitic" on online forums. I may criticise Israel politically however I think it is a great country culturally and historically. But that just so happens to be the world we live in.

mark

pre 12 godina

(Analyst, 28 June 2011 11:17)
Only partially true. Zionism is more, it's not about 'a country'
What a siily comment thats exactly what it is about.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Zionists believe that the Jews are a people and deserve a country of their own. Zionists believe in Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is not against anyone and it is not racist. Zionism implements the right of self determination of the Jewish people."
(mark, 28 June 2011 09:15)

Only partially true. Zionism is more, it's not about 'a country': Zionist believe that, for some historical reasons, Palestine belongs to Jews and only Jews.

mark

pre 12 godina

Ian UK.

When approached by a student who attacked Zionism, Martin Luther King responded: "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism."

Zionism is Racism.
The 1975 UN resolution was part of the Soviet-Arab Cold War anti-Israel campaign. Almost all the former non-Arab supporters of the resolution have apologized and changed their positions. When the General Assembly voted to repeal the resolution in 1991, only some Arab and Muslim states, as well as Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam were opposed.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

So much for Erdogan's fighting for the Palestinian cause.
(Leonidas, 27 June 2011 18:11)

Thanks - than this flotilla is a huge PR bullcrap again - to make Arabs feel cozy about Caliph (and mullah) Erdogan whose mandate is handed down by Tengri, the Turanian God of Skies ... ooops, what a mistake, I mean, Allah, of course. ;-)

Few people may die again in that stupidity helping Palestinians nothing. But Tengri's spirit, Turkish half-moons and most importantly the name of Caliph Erdogan will rise again all over Arab world. Ugly politics and BS masqueraded as "humanitarian" action. Sounds familiar somehow.

mark

pre 12 godina

(Elvir, 27 June 2011 20:21)
.Zionist is a dirty name only in the mouths of racist and evil minded people. Some of them use it as a "polite way of saying "Jew".

Zionists believe that the Jews are a people and deserve a country of their own. Zionists believe in Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is not against anyone and it is not racist. Zionism implements the right of self determination of the Jewish people.

Turkish invasion of Cyprus, ethnic cleansing ,genocide,war crimes,etc.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Zionism isn't Judaism, Zionism is Racism!

Will the Israeli Offence Force shoot at European Politicians who are on this flotilla???

Israel is going to have to be very careful in handling this situation, they'd be better not go in all gun-ho this time.

However I suppose the Israeli's have the right to defend themselves from these anti-Semites trying to arm the Palestinians in Gaza with Kitchen knives, wooden sticks and mental polls. Complete utter joke!

Elvir

pre 12 godina

It's about time to prove to zionist that is a new era to come. I wish them the best luck to safely deliver needed help to sieged Palastinians who is waiting eagerly. May Lord protect all of you you and that you safely arrive back home. It's time to show Israel that World's patient is escaping out of control.

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

Not sure, is Mullah Erdogan better than Zionists. Is he again involved indirectly?
(Ataman, 27 June 2011 14:45)

Mullah Erdogan's prestige in the Arab world has been rising steadily since he called for jihad against israel last year.The last time Turkish flags were carried through the streets of Middle Eastern capitals was during the first world war, as people took to the streets in continued support for the Ottoman sultan-caliph against the western entente powers.

Although Erdogan's PR actions may play well with domestic and middle-eastern audiences it does nothing to help the palestinian cause which has been used as a stepping stone by Erdogan to carry out the islamisation of Turkey.

In the meantime both israel and turkey continue their cosy military relations.Turkey has received the first batch of Israeli Eitan drones which are tested in south east turkey.Furthermore ,there are contracts worth $4 billion for purchases of military hardware from israel and also
modernisation of the turkish airforce.So much for Erdogan's fighting for the Palestinian cause.

mark

pre 12 godina

Dont let the Zionists stop you..

Zionism is a Jewish political movement that has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.

Dont let those Jews have a land oh no.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Don't let the Zionists stop you!
(Ian, UK, 27 June 2011 14:21)

Not sure, is Mullah Erdogan better than Zionists. Is he again involved indirectly?

Avinoam1

pre 12 godina

This is nothing but a publicity stunt. If they were serious about supplying Gaza with food and medicine, why not just use the Rafah crossing.

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

Not sure, is Mullah Erdogan better than Zionists. Is he again involved indirectly?
(Ataman, 27 June 2011 14:45)

Mullah Erdogan's prestige in the Arab world has been rising steadily since he called for jihad against israel last year.The last time Turkish flags were carried through the streets of Middle Eastern capitals was during the first world war, as people took to the streets in continued support for the Ottoman sultan-caliph against the western entente powers.

Although Erdogan's PR actions may play well with domestic and middle-eastern audiences it does nothing to help the palestinian cause which has been used as a stepping stone by Erdogan to carry out the islamisation of Turkey.

In the meantime both israel and turkey continue their cosy military relations.Turkey has received the first batch of Israeli Eitan drones which are tested in south east turkey.Furthermore ,there are contracts worth $4 billion for purchases of military hardware from israel and also
modernisation of the turkish airforce.So much for Erdogan's fighting for the Palestinian cause.

mark

pre 12 godina

Dont let the Zionists stop you..

Zionism is a Jewish political movement that has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.

Dont let those Jews have a land oh no.

mark

pre 12 godina

Ian UK.

When approached by a student who attacked Zionism, Martin Luther King responded: "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism."

Zionism is Racism.
The 1975 UN resolution was part of the Soviet-Arab Cold War anti-Israel campaign. Almost all the former non-Arab supporters of the resolution have apologized and changed their positions. When the General Assembly voted to repeal the resolution in 1991, only some Arab and Muslim states, as well as Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam were opposed.

Avinoam1

pre 12 godina

This is nothing but a publicity stunt. If they were serious about supplying Gaza with food and medicine, why not just use the Rafah crossing.

Elvir

pre 12 godina

It's about time to prove to zionist that is a new era to come. I wish them the best luck to safely deliver needed help to sieged Palastinians who is waiting eagerly. May Lord protect all of you you and that you safely arrive back home. It's time to show Israel that World's patient is escaping out of control.

mark

pre 12 godina

(Analyst, 28 June 2011 11:17)
Only partially true. Zionism is more, it's not about 'a country'
What a siily comment thats exactly what it is about.

mark

pre 12 godina

Ian please tell me why being a Zionist makes someone a racist,when as i said in my previous post it is a person or movement that believes in a homeland for the Jews.
As for there being Jews who oppose Zionism,they are a very small minority mainly Ultra Orthodox Neturi Karta and a handful of socialists and Marxists Jews.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

So much for Erdogan's fighting for the Palestinian cause.
(Leonidas, 27 June 2011 18:11)

Thanks - than this flotilla is a huge PR bullcrap again - to make Arabs feel cozy about Caliph (and mullah) Erdogan whose mandate is handed down by Tengri, the Turanian God of Skies ... ooops, what a mistake, I mean, Allah, of course. ;-)

Few people may die again in that stupidity helping Palestinians nothing. But Tengri's spirit, Turkish half-moons and most importantly the name of Caliph Erdogan will rise again all over Arab world. Ugly politics and BS masqueraded as "humanitarian" action. Sounds familiar somehow.

andrej

pre 12 godina

There's 10s worse and bloodier conflicts in the world but antisemites are fixated on Israel? Why? Because they're antisemites thinking it's perfect mask to hide their ugly faces. Palestinian human rights my behind. Any honest person sees that Israel is surrounded and fighting to survive. Not more not less. As a Serb I completely support them what the hell. If you want to bring palestinians cookies go to Rafah. If you want to go through sea blockades you've been warned. End of story.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Don't let the Zionists stop you!
(Ian, UK, 27 June 2011 14:21)

Not sure, is Mullah Erdogan better than Zionists. Is he again involved indirectly?

mark

pre 12 godina

(Elvir, 27 June 2011 20:21)
.Zionist is a dirty name only in the mouths of racist and evil minded people. Some of them use it as a "polite way of saying "Jew".

Zionists believe that the Jews are a people and deserve a country of their own. Zionists believe in Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is not against anyone and it is not racist. Zionism implements the right of self determination of the Jewish people.

Turkish invasion of Cyprus, ethnic cleansing ,genocide,war crimes,etc.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Zionists believe that the Jews are a people and deserve a country of their own. Zionists believe in Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is not against anyone and it is not racist. Zionism implements the right of self determination of the Jewish people."
(mark, 28 June 2011 09:15)

Only partially true. Zionism is more, it's not about 'a country': Zionist believe that, for some historical reasons, Palestine belongs to Jews and only Jews.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Zionism isn't Judaism, Zionism is Racism!

Will the Israeli Offence Force shoot at European Politicians who are on this flotilla???

Israel is going to have to be very careful in handling this situation, they'd be better not go in all gun-ho this time.

However I suppose the Israeli's have the right to defend themselves from these anti-Semites trying to arm the Palestinians in Gaza with Kitchen knives, wooden sticks and mental polls. Complete utter joke!

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

@ Mark

I'm not too fussed what MLK has to say about Zionism, it wasn't exactly his field.

Also you should learn what Anti-Semitism means... well what it meant before Zionists hijacked the term. It's literal meaning is being against/ opposed to Semitic people such as Arabs, Hebrews, Berbers ect. Therefore I love to laugh at people who refer to Hamas as being Anti-Semitic.

Also not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews, therefore opposing Zionism isn't opposing Judaism.

However non-Zionist Jews are usually ridiculed and made to feel small by been labelled as "Self Hating Jews". Take me for example, there are many Jewish people I idolise, I have a handful of Jewish friends; however if I criticise Israel I get labelled "Anti-Semitic" on online forums. I may criticise Israel politically however I think it is a great country culturally and historically. But that just so happens to be the world we live in.

Elvir

pre 12 godina

It's about time to prove to zionist that is a new era to come. I wish them the best luck to safely deliver needed help to sieged Palastinians who is waiting eagerly. May Lord protect all of you you and that you safely arrive back home. It's time to show Israel that World's patient is escaping out of control.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Don't let the Zionists stop you!
(Ian, UK, 27 June 2011 14:21)

Not sure, is Mullah Erdogan better than Zionists. Is he again involved indirectly?

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

Not sure, is Mullah Erdogan better than Zionists. Is he again involved indirectly?
(Ataman, 27 June 2011 14:45)

Mullah Erdogan's prestige in the Arab world has been rising steadily since he called for jihad against israel last year.The last time Turkish flags were carried through the streets of Middle Eastern capitals was during the first world war, as people took to the streets in continued support for the Ottoman sultan-caliph against the western entente powers.

Although Erdogan's PR actions may play well with domestic and middle-eastern audiences it does nothing to help the palestinian cause which has been used as a stepping stone by Erdogan to carry out the islamisation of Turkey.

In the meantime both israel and turkey continue their cosy military relations.Turkey has received the first batch of Israeli Eitan drones which are tested in south east turkey.Furthermore ,there are contracts worth $4 billion for purchases of military hardware from israel and also
modernisation of the turkish airforce.So much for Erdogan's fighting for the Palestinian cause.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

@ Mark

I'm not too fussed what MLK has to say about Zionism, it wasn't exactly his field.

Also you should learn what Anti-Semitism means... well what it meant before Zionists hijacked the term. It's literal meaning is being against/ opposed to Semitic people such as Arabs, Hebrews, Berbers ect. Therefore I love to laugh at people who refer to Hamas as being Anti-Semitic.

Also not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews, therefore opposing Zionism isn't opposing Judaism.

However non-Zionist Jews are usually ridiculed and made to feel small by been labelled as "Self Hating Jews". Take me for example, there are many Jewish people I idolise, I have a handful of Jewish friends; however if I criticise Israel I get labelled "Anti-Semitic" on online forums. I may criticise Israel politically however I think it is a great country culturally and historically. But that just so happens to be the world we live in.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Zionism isn't Judaism, Zionism is Racism!

Will the Israeli Offence Force shoot at European Politicians who are on this flotilla???

Israel is going to have to be very careful in handling this situation, they'd be better not go in all gun-ho this time.

However I suppose the Israeli's have the right to defend themselves from these anti-Semites trying to arm the Palestinians in Gaza with Kitchen knives, wooden sticks and mental polls. Complete utter joke!

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Zionists believe that the Jews are a people and deserve a country of their own. Zionists believe in Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is not against anyone and it is not racist. Zionism implements the right of self determination of the Jewish people."
(mark, 28 June 2011 09:15)

Only partially true. Zionism is more, it's not about 'a country': Zionist believe that, for some historical reasons, Palestine belongs to Jews and only Jews.

mark

pre 12 godina

Dont let the Zionists stop you..

Zionism is a Jewish political movement that has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.

Dont let those Jews have a land oh no.

Avinoam1

pre 12 godina

This is nothing but a publicity stunt. If they were serious about supplying Gaza with food and medicine, why not just use the Rafah crossing.

mark

pre 12 godina

(Elvir, 27 June 2011 20:21)
.Zionist is a dirty name only in the mouths of racist and evil minded people. Some of them use it as a "polite way of saying "Jew".

Zionists believe that the Jews are a people and deserve a country of their own. Zionists believe in Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is not against anyone and it is not racist. Zionism implements the right of self determination of the Jewish people.

Turkish invasion of Cyprus, ethnic cleansing ,genocide,war crimes,etc.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

So much for Erdogan's fighting for the Palestinian cause.
(Leonidas, 27 June 2011 18:11)

Thanks - than this flotilla is a huge PR bullcrap again - to make Arabs feel cozy about Caliph (and mullah) Erdogan whose mandate is handed down by Tengri, the Turanian God of Skies ... ooops, what a mistake, I mean, Allah, of course. ;-)

Few people may die again in that stupidity helping Palestinians nothing. But Tengri's spirit, Turkish half-moons and most importantly the name of Caliph Erdogan will rise again all over Arab world. Ugly politics and BS masqueraded as "humanitarian" action. Sounds familiar somehow.

mark

pre 12 godina

Ian UK.

When approached by a student who attacked Zionism, Martin Luther King responded: "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism."

Zionism is Racism.
The 1975 UN resolution was part of the Soviet-Arab Cold War anti-Israel campaign. Almost all the former non-Arab supporters of the resolution have apologized and changed their positions. When the General Assembly voted to repeal the resolution in 1991, only some Arab and Muslim states, as well as Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam were opposed.

mark

pre 12 godina

(Analyst, 28 June 2011 11:17)
Only partially true. Zionism is more, it's not about 'a country'
What a siily comment thats exactly what it is about.

mark

pre 12 godina

Ian please tell me why being a Zionist makes someone a racist,when as i said in my previous post it is a person or movement that believes in a homeland for the Jews.
As for there being Jews who oppose Zionism,they are a very small minority mainly Ultra Orthodox Neturi Karta and a handful of socialists and Marxists Jews.

andrej

pre 12 godina

There's 10s worse and bloodier conflicts in the world but antisemites are fixated on Israel? Why? Because they're antisemites thinking it's perfect mask to hide their ugly faces. Palestinian human rights my behind. Any honest person sees that Israel is surrounded and fighting to survive. Not more not less. As a Serb I completely support them what the hell. If you want to bring palestinians cookies go to Rafah. If you want to go through sea blockades you've been warned. End of story.