LDP leader causes new diplomatic protest

To the Brit :

It may hurt you but symbolically the war started way back in early 1938 in Munich where from Mr. Chamberlain had “brought peace for you”. Then for two years it was the prelude of WW2. Sudetes were taken without a shot when Pilsudski refused to let the Soviet troops pass to help Benesh. Then the Aeschylus happened and you Brits again remained silent. Then for 16 days Poland resisted after what Sikorski said good bye to his people. Then for a month the fate of Holland , Denmark , Belgium and France became evident and the Lord saved 300 000 of the English and French in Dunkirk. Then several local clashes in Norway , Northern Africa and Yugoslavia.

Do you really believe it was WW2 ? Then you know nothing about how it was here. As usual we had to deal with the United Europe where instead Mr.Baroso it Adolf Hitler heading 17 states. Unlike the prelude mentioned we had to launch a civilizational war for mutual elimination. So the real war started this damned day when the Brits felt relief … If you doubt it please tell me how did it happened that in WW1 the British combat losses were 6 times lower than in WW1 while our combat losses 6 times increased compared to WW1 ? How did it happened that half of the much smaller Yugoslavia suffered more combat losses than the Brits which fought 20 months longer ?

Yet I appreciate you for the help you rendered us and for the bravery of the whole people of the UK. Before 1944 only four nations led a total war against the Nazi. Those were us , you , the Serbs and the Montenegrins. All other “how I won the war stories” were written after 1945. But it changes nothing for me. I see no real reason to consider 01.09.39 as something extraordinary. The Strange War you mean was very symbolic but not real. When they talk of the Holocaust it hurts me very much. Out of every 6 Russians 1 was killed , out of 4 Belorussians 1 was killed , out of 5 Ukrainians 1 was killed ... We lost 10 000 000 on the battle field. Holocaust did not set Europe free ! So June 22 was the real date and please don'r tease any more !

Jovanovic's Racism & anti-Islamism are hard to reconcile with his masochistic obsession to be part of NATO, which is in fact colonial & humiliating. Love of Orthodoxy, Slavdom & Russia is natural for Serbs.

Wherever the New Serbs get their salaries best if they don’t forget that after all they are still Serbs ... Especially today that we have the blackest day in our history. 70 years ago (not in 1939 !) the real WW2 started. We were taken by surprise just like today to learn that my country strives to colonize Serbia. Most Russians were at a loss when with some under carpet treasons and bargains the pro-Russian candidate had not been elected. But it was the Serbian choice which we had to accept as it was. If only Toma were the President now and Russia behaved this neutral Serbians would have moral rights for such statements.

That tells lots about himself. Insulting others is not a way to go. Lack of proper education and etiquette, he cannot be a politician.

Čedomir Jovanović is only speaking the truth. Obviously Russians don't like the truth, truth be told they never did.

Ceda says Russia's attitude towards Serbia is COLONIAL????? Colonial? Are you kidding me, but the EU is not acting as an empire attempting to first amputate and then colonize Serbia?

He also indicated that Jeremic is stupid, he didnt said that literally, but...

At least one Serb in the parliament who has the guts to face those cannibals. Russian policy was always to colonize Serbia and use it as a buffer against others in both, political and economical ways. There is no other country world wide which is so under mercy of Russia more than Serbia. Practically there is no independence no more since the Russian ambassadors acts more like a regional warlord resp. Russian governor.

JohnC., 22 June

“ There is no other country world wide which is so under mercy of Russia more than Serbia”

You know nothing ! From 60 to 90% of the population of Uzbekistan , Kirgizstan , Kazakhsta, Belorussia , Ukraine , Armenia , India , Mongolia , Abkhasia , S.Ossetia , Vit Nam and many other countries believe us to be the closest state to them. And we ejoy more sympathy of the Africans and Asians than the Golden Billion.

Some good comments below. Like the marginalised 'liberal' opposition in Russia who also nobody votes for, such celebrities like Jovanović will do anything to get their face in the news. Like Ryan Air, they don't care whether the PR exposure is good or bad. Their greatest fear is that if they are not seen, then they will be forgotten about and even their tiny following will start to wonder who and what they are supporting.

Jovanović is best ignored for he is but a squeaking marionette. The only good role he serves is to attract all the flies in one place...

I can never work out if Ceda is a the most cynical man alive or just an idiot, but he does have the barest glimmer of a point here. To hear one or two of the soppier Serbs going on about RUS (as I believe it's known these days) you'd think that they can't survive without a colonial power - any colonial power - to tell them what to do. Makes you wonder if old Karadjordje shouldn't have stayed at home and saved himself the effort of those uprisings.

last i checked cedo, russia has no military installations on serbian soil and is playing a key role in preserving serbia's territorial integrity... the us on the other hand...

To Rote,

Respect due, because there are some good points in there, but you cannot equate the Great Patriotic War/Russo-German War/whatever you want to call it with World War 2 which, by definition, is a WORLD war. According to your version, by the time the USSR formally entered the war (ignoring that unpleasantness with Finland), most of Western and Central Europe had fallen (including Yugoslavia) and we'd won the Battle of Britain air war - Nazi Germany's first major reverse - and started to make progress against the Germans in North Africa. If this wasn't World War 2 then what would you call it?

One small point in passing, because it's irritating - you mention the Chamberlain's trip to Munich in 1938, which indeed is not our finest hour, but tell me one way in which it was different from the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact - they were both attempts to buy time for our countries to equip and, as such, partially successful, even though your "aliiance" with Hitler lasted longer than ours.

Another thought: when did World War 2 actually end? Are you suggesting Japan's surrender was irrelevant, or did it all finish in the bunker?

This tells a lot about the relationship between Russia and Serbia ...in any other Eu country never and i repeat never a Russian diplomat if something has been said by a politician sends a official note ofcriticism...Poor Serbia once it was a lion now is a rabbit...

70 years ago (not in 1939 !) the real WW2 started. (rote, 22 June 2011 13:03)

I'm the very last person to belittle the role of our Soviet brothers in the victory over fascism, but which war do you think started in 1939 if it wasn't World War 2. To be honest, it's normally only Americans who come out with this sort of revisionist crap.

Is there someone in power to get this guy to addmit to a drug testing..speaking stupid to attract attention is one thing,but this guy is loosing reality day after day..
What a shame..

This man is a total idiot and I cannot understand why anyone would take anything he says seriously.
Russia should just ignore this idiot. He said it not the government so I don't see how the current government can do anything to silence him. In a democracy anyone can have their say. We can choose to ignore him but depriving him of his right to an opinion is not very democratic.

I think Cedo is an embarrassment to Serbs everywhere and I wish he would go away but again, how is a party he does not belong to supposed to silence him? Why should they apologise for his remarks. I believe Cedo should be held accountable for his remarks and nobody else.

To the Brit :

I like and envy you the way you debate without slogans and mantras. But here we estimate things very different. I have very heavy argumentations on my side. But there are two things which worry me. One is how to persuade you without hurting our good ally and the other how to do it fast. I have no ideas but anyway here are some remarks for your post :

1/ Like Britain we were the lest interested side to start the war. As you know Britain was very successful in driving Russia first to WW1 and then to WW2. But I blame not you but our elites being so stupid. Britain is the only historical enemy of ours. There were three of you Turkey , Poland and Britain. All 3 had nothing to love us for. We honestly hated each other and did everything to destroy the 4 Empires. We took very active part to destroy all 3 of you while lateê on all 3 paid us with the same coin. So we are equal now. But Turkey and Poland are no longer our enemies while Britain is and will remain such never missing a chance to strike us from behind. We know it and appreciate you for not letting us to relax.

2/ Our stupid war against Finland had little to do with WW2. In a big degree it gave Hitler an illusion which proved fatal for him and us. Stalin was right not to trust the West. Concerning the Strange War he was worried that you fought not serious and that you can unite with the Germans. God knows what moved him to Finland but that victory was more crucial for us than for the Finns. I just think he made preparations against Hitler.

3/ There was time when Brits fought alone and everybody respects you but it was only a battle for Britain. No matter if the events happened in Poland , N.Africa , France or in the sea. Defending just one village near Leningrad we lost more of our beloved soldiers than the USA on all war theatres of WW2. ( To say nothing of Britain which managed to involve to WW2 enough countries to lower it’s own combat losses 6 times compared to WW1. ) It was a real war. 36 full divisions for one damned village ! And this is why I believe the real WW2 started on June 22 1941 and ended on May 9 1945. The fate of the Japanese was also a matter of time.

4/ Munich 1938 was not an attempt to buy time. It was an attempt to canalize Hitler eastward. And the Soviet-German pact was just a fake attempt to win time for us to rearm the army. We were the last to have a deal with Hitler. Daladier , Pilsudski , Chamberlain and all other SOBs were before. And in the circumstances the treaty you mention was a big achievement of our diplomacy. It prevented uniting the West against us. When in 2017 Rudolf Hess’ documents are published we shall know how it happened that all of a sudden instead Britain Hitler attacked us.

5/ Dear Brit genetical Russo phobia of the West brought you and us only problems. As you know we never attacked Europe but since Mnishek and Napoleon we learned to defend. So best if we make friends. At least I would not like to have an enemy like Russia. But in 2004 you celebrated the Overlord Operation and gave no word to Mr. Putin it was a challenge. He was just applauding … Next time in 2009 you even did not invite Mr. Medvedev. Now if you have time please look through to see what sacrifices made the USSR to let you land in Normandy ! My radicalism was born in France and so are many Russians. Like the Brits we were ready to pay any price required. But D-Day happened only when it became evident that we will destroy Hitler even if you all support him. Our army exceeded 13 millions and had the best armaments , military skill and moral spirit. We also enjoyed the support of most of the Europeans.

There is clearly something wrong with him, while he accuses Russia's policies of being colonial he himself wishes to join the colonies of the EU and NATO, and these colonies have inflicted harm on Serbia and all its people, no matter what the political opinions of certain people are. I would exepct that any Serb would have the dignity to condemn NATO and the EU for what they have done, but Cedomir is clearly so selfish by his wishes to want to drag the whole of Serbia down with him, God forbid he ever get power.

However on a different note, while he leads the Liberal Democrat Party, he often insults many people other than Serbs, be it recently with the Russians or not to long ago where he insulted various African countries which saw many complaints. He clearly doesn't know too much about his own party's ideology, somehow I thought liberal democrats were supposed to be tolerant. He is quite frankly a joke.

It makes my skin crawl to think that a diplomatic protest note would be sent by the Russians over what some minor opposition politician said on TV.

What a bunch of delicate flowers.

Speaks volumes, however, both of how they value their image in Serbia and how they remain unaccustomed to free speech even all these years after communism supposedly fell.

Little Cedo leads a small an insignificant party that is trying to make inroads by trying to appeal to all types of disenchanted groups in Serbia. Every country has them – you have your major parties and then there are the small ones which try and attract that 15 or 20% of the vote that is dissatisfied with the major groups.

Chapter one of the small party manual is ensure your name is kept in the media by making outrageous statements. That’s all that Cedo is doing

@rotten

Even Hongkong is more independent than Serbia, because Hongkong dares to speak against Beijing, unlike Serbia, which always gets punched by the Russian governor...sorry ambassador of Serbia whenever Belgrade goes out of line.

But congratulations, Russian, you always know how to make Serbia a puppet state. To bad for you that only a few are so stupid to downgrade themselves, in the same way...

It seems B92 removed a large chunk of my previous comment, someone didn't like what I said about Ceda ;)

To rote and the Brit:

The Munich agreement and the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact are not comparable. Neither are the motives of USSR and Britain.

Within months of the Munich Agreement, Chamberlain was replaced. He died out of office and in disgrace. His policy of Appeasement was much hated and is seen by many to be Britain’s greatest mistake. Chamberlains policy was torn up and Appeasement was seen for what it was – a futile attempt to manage a fascist bully. After Germany invaded Poland, Britain and France demanded she remove all her forces from Poland, otherwise they would use force to come to the assistance of Poland. When Hitler refused, Britain and France declared war on Germany.

For the USSR, the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact seemed to motivated entirely by Siviet self interest and, importantly, territorial gain. Unlike Chamberlain, Stalin was strengthened by his pact with the fascists and remained in power until his death.

Perhaps more importantly, Britain did not seek to gain territory by way of the Munich agreement. Not so the USSR. The pact expressly provided for territorial gains for the USSR. We all know that fascist Germany invaded Poland in September 1939. Some prefer to ignore that the USSR, with Germanys approval, invaded and occupied eastern Poland, the Baltic States and others areas at the same time. The Baltic States remained occupied for the next five decades.

The Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact enabled fascist Germany to cause havoc, murder and misery throughout Europe. By not needing to secure her Eastern front, fascist Germany was comforted, safe in the knowledge that the USSR would not come to any victims assistance. And they did not. Not until her new friends, fascist Germany turned on USSR. Only then did USSR act.

Peace and respect!
GRUK

This tells a lot about the relationship between Russia and Serbia ...in any other Eu country never and i repeat never a Russian diplomat if something has been said by a politician sends a official note ofcriticism...Poor Serbia once it was a lion now is a rabbit...

Čedomir Jovanović is only speaking the truth. Obviously Russians don't like the truth, truth be told they never did.

Jovanovic's Racism & anti-Islamism are hard to reconcile with his masochistic obsession to be part of NATO, which is in fact colonial & humiliating. Love of Orthodoxy, Slavdom & Russia is natural for Serbs.

At least one Serb in the parliament who has the guts to face those cannibals. Russian policy was always to colonize Serbia and use it as a buffer against others in both, political and economical ways. There is no other country world wide which is so under mercy of Russia more than Serbia. Practically there is no independence no more since the Russian ambassadors acts more like a regional warlord resp. Russian governor.

I can never work out if Ceda is a the most cynical man alive or just an idiot, but he does have the barest glimmer of a point here. To hear one or two of the soppier Serbs going on about RUS (as I believe it's known these days) you'd think that they can't survive without a colonial power - any colonial power - to tell them what to do. Makes you wonder if old Karadjordje shouldn't have stayed at home and saved himself the effort of those uprisings.

That tells lots about himself. Insulting others is not a way to go. Lack of proper education and etiquette, he cannot be a politician.

last i checked cedo, russia has no military installations on serbian soil and is playing a key role in preserving serbia's territorial integrity... the us on the other hand...

Ceda says Russia's attitude towards Serbia is COLONIAL????? Colonial? Are you kidding me, but the EU is not acting as an empire attempting to first amputate and then colonize Serbia?

Is there someone in power to get this guy to addmit to a drug testing..speaking stupid to attract attention is one thing,but this guy is loosing reality day after day..
What a shame..

He also indicated that Jeremic is stupid, he didnt said that literally, but...

JohnC., 22 June

“ There is no other country world wide which is so under mercy of Russia more than Serbia”

You know nothing ! From 60 to 90% of the population of Uzbekistan , Kirgizstan , Kazakhsta, Belorussia , Ukraine , Armenia , India , Mongolia , Abkhasia , S.Ossetia , Vit Nam and many other countries believe us to be the closest state to them. And we ejoy more sympathy of the Africans and Asians than the Golden Billion.

Wherever the New Serbs get their salaries best if they don’t forget that after all they are still Serbs ... Especially today that we have the blackest day in our history. 70 years ago (not in 1939 !) the real WW2 started. We were taken by surprise just like today to learn that my country strives to colonize Serbia. Most Russians were at a loss when with some under carpet treasons and bargains the pro-Russian candidate had not been elected. But it was the Serbian choice which we had to accept as it was. If only Toma were the President now and Russia behaved this neutral Serbians would have moral rights for such statements.

To the Brit :

It may hurt you but symbolically the war started way back in early 1938 in Munich where from Mr. Chamberlain had “brought peace for you”. Then for two years it was the prelude of WW2. Sudetes were taken without a shot when Pilsudski refused to let the Soviet troops pass to help Benesh. Then the Aeschylus happened and you Brits again remained silent. Then for 16 days Poland resisted after what Sikorski said good bye to his people. Then for a month the fate of Holland , Denmark , Belgium and France became evident and the Lord saved 300 000 of the English and French in Dunkirk. Then several local clashes in Norway , Northern Africa and Yugoslavia.

Do you really believe it was WW2 ? Then you know nothing about how it was here. As usual we had to deal with the United Europe where instead Mr.Baroso it Adolf Hitler heading 17 states. Unlike the prelude mentioned we had to launch a civilizational war for mutual elimination. So the real war started this damned day when the Brits felt relief … If you doubt it please tell me how did it happened that in WW1 the British combat losses were 6 times lower than in WW1 while our combat losses 6 times increased compared to WW1 ? How did it happened that half of the much smaller Yugoslavia suffered more combat losses than the Brits which fought 20 months longer ?

Yet I appreciate you for the help you rendered us and for the bravery of the whole people of the UK. Before 1944 only four nations led a total war against the Nazi. Those were us , you , the Serbs and the Montenegrins. All other “how I won the war stories” were written after 1945. But it changes nothing for me. I see no real reason to consider 01.09.39 as something extraordinary. The Strange War you mean was very symbolic but not real. When they talk of the Holocaust it hurts me very much. Out of every 6 Russians 1 was killed , out of 4 Belorussians 1 was killed , out of 5 Ukrainians 1 was killed ... We lost 10 000 000 on the battle field. Holocaust did not set Europe free ! So June 22 was the real date and please don'r tease any more !

Little Cedo leads a small an insignificant party that is trying to make inroads by trying to appeal to all types of disenchanted groups in Serbia. Every country has them – you have your major parties and then there are the small ones which try and attract that 15 or 20% of the vote that is dissatisfied with the major groups.

Chapter one of the small party manual is ensure your name is kept in the media by making outrageous statements. That’s all that Cedo is doing

This man is a total idiot and I cannot understand why anyone would take anything he says seriously.
Russia should just ignore this idiot. He said it not the government so I don't see how the current government can do anything to silence him. In a democracy anyone can have their say. We can choose to ignore him but depriving him of his right to an opinion is not very democratic.

I think Cedo is an embarrassment to Serbs everywhere and I wish he would go away but again, how is a party he does not belong to supposed to silence him? Why should they apologise for his remarks. I believe Cedo should be held accountable for his remarks and nobody else.

70 years ago (not in 1939 !) the real WW2 started. (rote, 22 June 2011 13:03)

I'm the very last person to belittle the role of our Soviet brothers in the victory over fascism, but which war do you think started in 1939 if it wasn't World War 2. To be honest, it's normally only Americans who come out with this sort of revisionist crap.

It makes my skin crawl to think that a diplomatic protest note would be sent by the Russians over what some minor opposition politician said on TV.

What a bunch of delicate flowers.

Speaks volumes, however, both of how they value their image in Serbia and how they remain unaccustomed to free speech even all these years after communism supposedly fell.

Some good comments below. Like the marginalised 'liberal' opposition in Russia who also nobody votes for, such celebrities like Jovanović will do anything to get their face in the news. Like Ryan Air, they don't care whether the PR exposure is good or bad. Their greatest fear is that if they are not seen, then they will be forgotten about and even their tiny following will start to wonder who and what they are supporting.

Jovanović is best ignored for he is but a squeaking marionette. The only good role he serves is to attract all the flies in one place...

There is clearly something wrong with him, while he accuses Russia's policies of being colonial he himself wishes to join the colonies of the EU and NATO, and these colonies have inflicted harm on Serbia and all its people, no matter what the political opinions of certain people are. I would exepct that any Serb would have the dignity to condemn NATO and the EU for what they have done, but Cedomir is clearly so selfish by his wishes to want to drag the whole of Serbia down with him, God forbid he ever get power.

However on a different note, while he leads the Liberal Democrat Party, he often insults many people other than Serbs, be it recently with the Russians or not to long ago where he insulted various African countries which saw many complaints. He clearly doesn't know too much about his own party's ideology, somehow I thought liberal democrats were supposed to be tolerant. He is quite frankly a joke.

@rotten

Even Hongkong is more independent than Serbia, because Hongkong dares to speak against Beijing, unlike Serbia, which always gets punched by the Russian governor...sorry ambassador of Serbia whenever Belgrade goes out of line.

But congratulations, Russian, you always know how to make Serbia a puppet state. To bad for you that only a few are so stupid to downgrade themselves, in the same way...

To Rote,

Respect due, because there are some good points in there, but you cannot equate the Great Patriotic War/Russo-German War/whatever you want to call it with World War 2 which, by definition, is a WORLD war. According to your version, by the time the USSR formally entered the war (ignoring that unpleasantness with Finland), most of Western and Central Europe had fallen (including Yugoslavia) and we'd won the Battle of Britain air war - Nazi Germany's first major reverse - and started to make progress against the Germans in North Africa. If this wasn't World War 2 then what would you call it?

One small point in passing, because it's irritating - you mention the Chamberlain's trip to Munich in 1938, which indeed is not our finest hour, but tell me one way in which it was different from the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact - they were both attempts to buy time for our countries to equip and, as such, partially successful, even though your "aliiance" with Hitler lasted longer than ours.

Another thought: when did World War 2 actually end? Are you suggesting Japan's surrender was irrelevant, or did it all finish in the bunker?

To the Brit :

I like and envy you the way you debate without slogans and mantras. But here we estimate things very different. I have very heavy argumentations on my side. But there are two things which worry me. One is how to persuade you without hurting our good ally and the other how to do it fast. I have no ideas but anyway here are some remarks for your post :

1/ Like Britain we were the lest interested side to start the war. As you know Britain was very successful in driving Russia first to WW1 and then to WW2. But I blame not you but our elites being so stupid. Britain is the only historical enemy of ours. There were three of you Turkey , Poland and Britain. All 3 had nothing to love us for. We honestly hated each other and did everything to destroy the 4 Empires. We took very active part to destroy all 3 of you while lateê on all 3 paid us with the same coin. So we are equal now. But Turkey and Poland are no longer our enemies while Britain is and will remain such never missing a chance to strike us from behind. We know it and appreciate you for not letting us to relax.

2/ Our stupid war against Finland had little to do with WW2. In a big degree it gave Hitler an illusion which proved fatal for him and us. Stalin was right not to trust the West. Concerning the Strange War he was worried that you fought not serious and that you can unite with the Germans. God knows what moved him to Finland but that victory was more crucial for us than for the Finns. I just think he made preparations against Hitler.

3/ There was time when Brits fought alone and everybody respects you but it was only a battle for Britain. No matter if the events happened in Poland , N.Africa , France or in the sea. Defending just one village near Leningrad we lost more of our beloved soldiers than the USA on all war theatres of WW2. ( To say nothing of Britain which managed to involve to WW2 enough countries to lower it’s own combat losses 6 times compared to WW1. ) It was a real war. 36 full divisions for one damned village ! And this is why I believe the real WW2 started on June 22 1941 and ended on May 9 1945. The fate of the Japanese was also a matter of time.

4/ Munich 1938 was not an attempt to buy time. It was an attempt to canalize Hitler eastward. And the Soviet-German pact was just a fake attempt to win time for us to rearm the army. We were the last to have a deal with Hitler. Daladier , Pilsudski , Chamberlain and all other SOBs were before. And in the circumstances the treaty you mention was a big achievement of our diplomacy. It prevented uniting the West against us. When in 2017 Rudolf Hess’ documents are published we shall know how it happened that all of a sudden instead Britain Hitler attacked us.

5/ Dear Brit genetical Russo phobia of the West brought you and us only problems. As you know we never attacked Europe but since Mnishek and Napoleon we learned to defend. So best if we make friends. At least I would not like to have an enemy like Russia. But in 2004 you celebrated the Overlord Operation and gave no word to Mr. Putin it was a challenge. He was just applauding … Next time in 2009 you even did not invite Mr. Medvedev. Now if you have time please look through to see what sacrifices made the USSR to let you land in Normandy ! My radicalism was born in France and so are many Russians. Like the Brits we were ready to pay any price required. But D-Day happened only when it became evident that we will destroy Hitler even if you all support him. Our army exceeded 13 millions and had the best armaments , military skill and moral spirit. We also enjoyed the support of most of the Europeans.

It seems B92 removed a large chunk of my previous comment, someone didn't like what I said about Ceda ;)

To rote and the Brit:

The Munich agreement and the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact are not comparable. Neither are the motives of USSR and Britain.

Within months of the Munich Agreement, Chamberlain was replaced. He died out of office and in disgrace. His policy of Appeasement was much hated and is seen by many to be Britain’s greatest mistake. Chamberlains policy was torn up and Appeasement was seen for what it was – a futile attempt to manage a fascist bully. After Germany invaded Poland, Britain and France demanded she remove all her forces from Poland, otherwise they would use force to come to the assistance of Poland. When Hitler refused, Britain and France declared war on Germany.

For the USSR, the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact seemed to motivated entirely by Siviet self interest and, importantly, territorial gain. Unlike Chamberlain, Stalin was strengthened by his pact with the fascists and remained in power until his death.

Perhaps more importantly, Britain did not seek to gain territory by way of the Munich agreement. Not so the USSR. The pact expressly provided for territorial gains for the USSR. We all know that fascist Germany invaded Poland in September 1939. Some prefer to ignore that the USSR, with Germanys approval, invaded and occupied eastern Poland, the Baltic States and others areas at the same time. The Baltic States remained occupied for the next five decades.

The Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact enabled fascist Germany to cause havoc, murder and misery throughout Europe. By not needing to secure her Eastern front, fascist Germany was comforted, safe in the knowledge that the USSR would not come to any victims assistance. And they did not. Not until her new friends, fascist Germany turned on USSR. Only then did USSR act.

Peace and respect!
GRUK