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Friday, 17.06.2011.

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Clinton accuses Gaddafi of using rape as “tool of war”

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has accused Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi’s forces of using rape and violence against women as a tool of war.

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SCP UK

pre 12 godina

In response to you ZZ,

In my opinion what they are accusing Gaddafi of has got to be literally one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard, as with how they accused the Serbs of doing the same thing. Rape happens in war which is indeed an absolutely horrific thing, but it happens by all sides and to suggest that it was a governmental campaign is just laughable. There is strictly no evidence for it having been a war tool in either conflicts, however once the media prints a story the majority of naive and fickle minded people will believe it without question, hence why it is catching of. But with Libya the western media are saying that Gaddafi provides his soldiers with viagra to commit rape, now it doesnt take an extremely intelligent person to know that viagra is used for people with erectile disfunction, those people who are sick and disgusting enough to commit such a crime do not require it, to commit rape you have to be one twisted individual to be able to do it and to suggest that every soldier fighting for Gaddafi is sick and twisted is just absolute nonsense.

ZZ

pre 12 godina

I've read many times that Serb militaries and local militias did the same during the war in Bosnia. I would like to read both Serbs and non-Serbs on this issue. Many thanks.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Joe, "The US still can inform them. Nothing is wrong about it.
But leave it to a frustrated Serbian-American. He will criticize most everything since the bombing of 1999."

Poor Joe. Your indoctrination during your formative years of the "us-versus-them ideology", black and white, all or none, fills you with dark thoughts, frustration and intolerance, and an authoritative and caustic manner. It is rather sad and pathetic, really.

You need to take a US history class and read the founding fathers' thoughts. The reason we can speak out is because our founders were concerned about the powers of government and thus created the First Amendment.

In a democracy, differences of opinion are welcome but apparently, where you grew up, this was not the case.
You can love your country and still disagree with its policies. You can be patriotic and also realistic about your government’s flaws. The US needs to practice what it preaches; it reports countries to the ICC but refuses to be judged by the same body...hypocritical.

Your weak attempt to discredit my opinion is really counter-productive and serves no purpose. You need to lighten up, Joe, and loosen your underware.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

We've seen this before from the same hysterical Clinton administration, ridiculous accusations lacking any proof or verification, simply more hate propoganda meant to further their geopolitical goals. Remember '100,000 dead albanians'? Wound up being less than 2,000 dead in combat. Remember the 'Racak Massacre'? A proven pure hoax. Remember 'Serbs throwing bodies down the Trepca mine shaft'? Again a proven lie, not one bit of forensic proof despite millions spent in investigating. Remember '200,000 dead Bosnians'? Total is approximately 104,000 dead on all sides, and around 60,000 on the Bosnian side. The list of blatant lies and propoganda is too long to post on here. I seem to recall one Bosnian muslim woman in Switzerland who claimed she was raped by Serbs, and then later gave birth to a black baby!
Hillary is an incompetent, and ignorant woman, who is married to a man who cheated on her with hundreds, yes HUNDREDS, of women, and she still sticks with him because she loves the limelight so much. Clearly, a woman with no shame, and no pride, and no scruples. Next time she accuses anyone of anything, consider the source.
She is so incompetent, that she pushed Obama to support one Libyan tribe against another, even though it is well known that the tribe she is supporting has Al Qaeda connections. Now Obama is in huge trouble and has to explain to the American public why they are fighting with Al Qaeda...lol. I love it. Obama and Hillary should be called 'Dumb and Dumber'.
Cheers!!

Theo K.

pre 12 godina

The remarks of many here do not deserve a response. However, when one is in denial for crimes committed in their name, it is predictable that those very allies of Kadhafi would rush to his defense and defend the act of rape.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

ok, lets see the evidence rhen hillary. last time it was 20,000 Albanians raped, however, at the end you could only find 92, and no evidence whatsoever to prove Milossevic's responsibility. So; wheres the evidence?

Joe

pre 12 godina

""...the State Department said in a statement and added that the International Criminal Court was informed about it.
The US snubs the authority of the ICC.

Hypocrisy at its best!!
(Roger7,

The US still can inform them. Nothing is wrong about it.
But leave it to a frustrated Serbian-American. He will criticize most everything since the bombing of 1999.

lids

pre 12 godina

Gadhafi learned that from Serbs.
(ivan, 17 June 2011 13:20)

Well-thank god for that at least-just imagine if he was learning from your uncles albanians..there would not be a kidney left in Lybia...

Yugo

pre 12 godina

This sounds familiar the US/West acussing another government of using rape as a tool in war.
The questions the journalists should raise are;
What sources have advised the US administration of this going on?
Have those sources been verified?
Is there a call for investigation into this accusation or is it another Racak false accusation.
Is this true or another propoganda campaign similar used against Yugoslavia?
Has the Gaddafi government actually placed it as a policy?
All these questions and many more need to be answered before the international community actually believe it is true.
US/West should be ashamed for spitting our accusations when they may not be true.

The Brit

pre 12 godina

Gadhafi learned that from Serbs.
(ivan, 17 June 2011 13:20)

Well THAT was in no way predictable, was it? Well done ilir, keep them coming.

dd

pre 12 godina

ivan,

Just one honest question - do you really believe things you post?
You're just shorter version of sheman-frisco.
Same opssession - love and complex of Serbs - even of this unrelated topic - you find the way to shine.

CNN and west media raping whole world and normal brains for years and use it as the main weapon of war - and ivan and frisco is enjoying it - consenting it - learning from the best - organic fat-free green rape machine with deplated uranium icing.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

"...the State Department said in a statement and added that the International Criminal Court was informed about it."

The US snubs the authority of the ICC.
The US as well as Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, People's Republic of China, and Yemen do not recognoze the authority of the ICC.

The US did not ratify the treaty establishing the authority of the International Criminal Court and instead passes laws to protect their own leaders and personnel from prosecution.

Hypocrisy at its best!!

DimTuc

pre 12 godina

This is breathtakingly stupid propaganda. Gadhafi gave troops viagra etc. And all from the mouth of one person.

However, the analogies some here are drawing to Bosnia are just your denialism. The existence of rape camps, such as in Foca, are well-established and have led to indictments at the Hague. You should be ashamed of yourself for denying such war crimes.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

The Clinton Administration was part of the so-called "good guys" in America. Their backers felt like they had the moral high ground on every issue. One way the Clintons created this image was pretending they were fighting just wars. For a war to be just, it must have horrific crimes that even doves would back. Rape is horrible and it is associated with conditioned contempt. Thus, by throwing around this word, it creates an intense reaction (unconditioned response). Yet, like in Bosnia, there was never any proof of rape being used as a weapon of war. The only evidence ever came from Bosnian Muslims, the same people whom were motivated to defeat Serbia, so they cannot be credible.
What a shame, because rape is a horrible inhuman crime. Doing what Clinton is doing is degrading this crime and women in general.I guess the ends justify the means.

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

Although rape is a crime that should be punished nevertheless the story of this vagary came from Hillary's mouth and those who claim they are "protecting civilians" by bombardment,and one would suspect the inspiration of the story come from the sexual crimee committed by US and UK in Iraq.One would recall the pictures flying around the world of the sexual exploits of private Linndie England on Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison Iraq.


Since the Western goverments have told us a lot of things that are false to justify this disgraceful attack on the people of Libya this 'mounting' evidence, Hillary is talking about, remains just another piece of propaganda against Gaddafi.

sj

pre 12 godina

They should make a new version of An American in Paris and call it A Jackass in Washington starring Hillary Clinton, the greatest jackass of them all.
Please this is getting so tiresome that it’s laughable even though the subject would be treated seriously under normal circumstances. Rape again eh? You guys have to get some new faces in the political parties in Washington with a modicum of intelligence rather than recycle the same old trash over and over again.
Hilary old girl this business of using rape as propaganda is old – move on and come up with something new. You have used it in Bosnia, remember?

sj

pre 12 godina

They should make a new version of An American in Paris and call it A Jackass in Washington starring Hillary Clinton, the greatest jackass of them all.
Please this is getting so tiresome that it’s laughable even though the subject would be treated seriously under normal circumstances. Rape again eh? You guys have to get some new faces in the political parties in Washington with a modicum of intelligence rather than recycle the same old trash over and over again.
Hilary old girl this business of using rape as propaganda is old – move on and come up with something new. You have used it in Bosnia, remember?

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

Although rape is a crime that should be punished nevertheless the story of this vagary came from Hillary's mouth and those who claim they are "protecting civilians" by bombardment,and one would suspect the inspiration of the story come from the sexual crimee committed by US and UK in Iraq.One would recall the pictures flying around the world of the sexual exploits of private Linndie England on Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison Iraq.


Since the Western goverments have told us a lot of things that are false to justify this disgraceful attack on the people of Libya this 'mounting' evidence, Hillary is talking about, remains just another piece of propaganda against Gaddafi.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

"...the State Department said in a statement and added that the International Criminal Court was informed about it."

The US snubs the authority of the ICC.
The US as well as Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, People's Republic of China, and Yemen do not recognoze the authority of the ICC.

The US did not ratify the treaty establishing the authority of the International Criminal Court and instead passes laws to protect their own leaders and personnel from prosecution.

Hypocrisy at its best!!

Dragan

pre 12 godina

We've seen this before from the same hysterical Clinton administration, ridiculous accusations lacking any proof or verification, simply more hate propoganda meant to further their geopolitical goals. Remember '100,000 dead albanians'? Wound up being less than 2,000 dead in combat. Remember the 'Racak Massacre'? A proven pure hoax. Remember 'Serbs throwing bodies down the Trepca mine shaft'? Again a proven lie, not one bit of forensic proof despite millions spent in investigating. Remember '200,000 dead Bosnians'? Total is approximately 104,000 dead on all sides, and around 60,000 on the Bosnian side. The list of blatant lies and propoganda is too long to post on here. I seem to recall one Bosnian muslim woman in Switzerland who claimed she was raped by Serbs, and then later gave birth to a black baby!
Hillary is an incompetent, and ignorant woman, who is married to a man who cheated on her with hundreds, yes HUNDREDS, of women, and she still sticks with him because she loves the limelight so much. Clearly, a woman with no shame, and no pride, and no scruples. Next time she accuses anyone of anything, consider the source.
She is so incompetent, that she pushed Obama to support one Libyan tribe against another, even though it is well known that the tribe she is supporting has Al Qaeda connections. Now Obama is in huge trouble and has to explain to the American public why they are fighting with Al Qaeda...lol. I love it. Obama and Hillary should be called 'Dumb and Dumber'.
Cheers!!

lids

pre 12 godina

Gadhafi learned that from Serbs.
(ivan, 17 June 2011 13:20)

Well-thank god for that at least-just imagine if he was learning from your uncles albanians..there would not be a kidney left in Lybia...

dd

pre 12 godina

ivan,

Just one honest question - do you really believe things you post?
You're just shorter version of sheman-frisco.
Same opssession - love and complex of Serbs - even of this unrelated topic - you find the way to shine.

CNN and west media raping whole world and normal brains for years and use it as the main weapon of war - and ivan and frisco is enjoying it - consenting it - learning from the best - organic fat-free green rape machine with deplated uranium icing.

Yugo

pre 12 godina

This sounds familiar the US/West acussing another government of using rape as a tool in war.
The questions the journalists should raise are;
What sources have advised the US administration of this going on?
Have those sources been verified?
Is there a call for investigation into this accusation or is it another Racak false accusation.
Is this true or another propoganda campaign similar used against Yugoslavia?
Has the Gaddafi government actually placed it as a policy?
All these questions and many more need to be answered before the international community actually believe it is true.
US/West should be ashamed for spitting our accusations when they may not be true.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

ok, lets see the evidence rhen hillary. last time it was 20,000 Albanians raped, however, at the end you could only find 92, and no evidence whatsoever to prove Milossevic's responsibility. So; wheres the evidence?

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Joe, "The US still can inform them. Nothing is wrong about it.
But leave it to a frustrated Serbian-American. He will criticize most everything since the bombing of 1999."

Poor Joe. Your indoctrination during your formative years of the "us-versus-them ideology", black and white, all or none, fills you with dark thoughts, frustration and intolerance, and an authoritative and caustic manner. It is rather sad and pathetic, really.

You need to take a US history class and read the founding fathers' thoughts. The reason we can speak out is because our founders were concerned about the powers of government and thus created the First Amendment.

In a democracy, differences of opinion are welcome but apparently, where you grew up, this was not the case.
You can love your country and still disagree with its policies. You can be patriotic and also realistic about your government’s flaws. The US needs to practice what it preaches; it reports countries to the ICC but refuses to be judged by the same body...hypocritical.

Your weak attempt to discredit my opinion is really counter-productive and serves no purpose. You need to lighten up, Joe, and loosen your underware.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

The Clinton Administration was part of the so-called "good guys" in America. Their backers felt like they had the moral high ground on every issue. One way the Clintons created this image was pretending they were fighting just wars. For a war to be just, it must have horrific crimes that even doves would back. Rape is horrible and it is associated with conditioned contempt. Thus, by throwing around this word, it creates an intense reaction (unconditioned response). Yet, like in Bosnia, there was never any proof of rape being used as a weapon of war. The only evidence ever came from Bosnian Muslims, the same people whom were motivated to defeat Serbia, so they cannot be credible.
What a shame, because rape is a horrible inhuman crime. Doing what Clinton is doing is degrading this crime and women in general.I guess the ends justify the means.

DimTuc

pre 12 godina

This is breathtakingly stupid propaganda. Gadhafi gave troops viagra etc. And all from the mouth of one person.

However, the analogies some here are drawing to Bosnia are just your denialism. The existence of rape camps, such as in Foca, are well-established and have led to indictments at the Hague. You should be ashamed of yourself for denying such war crimes.

The Brit

pre 12 godina

Gadhafi learned that from Serbs.
(ivan, 17 June 2011 13:20)

Well THAT was in no way predictable, was it? Well done ilir, keep them coming.

Theo K.

pre 12 godina

The remarks of many here do not deserve a response. However, when one is in denial for crimes committed in their name, it is predictable that those very allies of Kadhafi would rush to his defense and defend the act of rape.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

In response to you ZZ,

In my opinion what they are accusing Gaddafi of has got to be literally one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard, as with how they accused the Serbs of doing the same thing. Rape happens in war which is indeed an absolutely horrific thing, but it happens by all sides and to suggest that it was a governmental campaign is just laughable. There is strictly no evidence for it having been a war tool in either conflicts, however once the media prints a story the majority of naive and fickle minded people will believe it without question, hence why it is catching of. But with Libya the western media are saying that Gaddafi provides his soldiers with viagra to commit rape, now it doesnt take an extremely intelligent person to know that viagra is used for people with erectile disfunction, those people who are sick and disgusting enough to commit such a crime do not require it, to commit rape you have to be one twisted individual to be able to do it and to suggest that every soldier fighting for Gaddafi is sick and twisted is just absolute nonsense.

Joe

pre 12 godina

""...the State Department said in a statement and added that the International Criminal Court was informed about it.
The US snubs the authority of the ICC.

Hypocrisy at its best!!
(Roger7,

The US still can inform them. Nothing is wrong about it.
But leave it to a frustrated Serbian-American. He will criticize most everything since the bombing of 1999.

ZZ

pre 12 godina

I've read many times that Serb militaries and local militias did the same during the war in Bosnia. I would like to read both Serbs and non-Serbs on this issue. Many thanks.

The Brit

pre 12 godina

Gadhafi learned that from Serbs.
(ivan, 17 June 2011 13:20)

Well THAT was in no way predictable, was it? Well done ilir, keep them coming.

lids

pre 12 godina

Gadhafi learned that from Serbs.
(ivan, 17 June 2011 13:20)

Well-thank god for that at least-just imagine if he was learning from your uncles albanians..there would not be a kidney left in Lybia...

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

Although rape is a crime that should be punished nevertheless the story of this vagary came from Hillary's mouth and those who claim they are "protecting civilians" by bombardment,and one would suspect the inspiration of the story come from the sexual crimee committed by US and UK in Iraq.One would recall the pictures flying around the world of the sexual exploits of private Linndie England on Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison Iraq.


Since the Western goverments have told us a lot of things that are false to justify this disgraceful attack on the people of Libya this 'mounting' evidence, Hillary is talking about, remains just another piece of propaganda against Gaddafi.

sj

pre 12 godina

They should make a new version of An American in Paris and call it A Jackass in Washington starring Hillary Clinton, the greatest jackass of them all.
Please this is getting so tiresome that it’s laughable even though the subject would be treated seriously under normal circumstances. Rape again eh? You guys have to get some new faces in the political parties in Washington with a modicum of intelligence rather than recycle the same old trash over and over again.
Hilary old girl this business of using rape as propaganda is old – move on and come up with something new. You have used it in Bosnia, remember?

DimTuc

pre 12 godina

This is breathtakingly stupid propaganda. Gadhafi gave troops viagra etc. And all from the mouth of one person.

However, the analogies some here are drawing to Bosnia are just your denialism. The existence of rape camps, such as in Foca, are well-established and have led to indictments at the Hague. You should be ashamed of yourself for denying such war crimes.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

The Clinton Administration was part of the so-called "good guys" in America. Their backers felt like they had the moral high ground on every issue. One way the Clintons created this image was pretending they were fighting just wars. For a war to be just, it must have horrific crimes that even doves would back. Rape is horrible and it is associated with conditioned contempt. Thus, by throwing around this word, it creates an intense reaction (unconditioned response). Yet, like in Bosnia, there was never any proof of rape being used as a weapon of war. The only evidence ever came from Bosnian Muslims, the same people whom were motivated to defeat Serbia, so they cannot be credible.
What a shame, because rape is a horrible inhuman crime. Doing what Clinton is doing is degrading this crime and women in general.I guess the ends justify the means.

Joe

pre 12 godina

""...the State Department said in a statement and added that the International Criminal Court was informed about it.
The US snubs the authority of the ICC.

Hypocrisy at its best!!
(Roger7,

The US still can inform them. Nothing is wrong about it.
But leave it to a frustrated Serbian-American. He will criticize most everything since the bombing of 1999.

Theo K.

pre 12 godina

The remarks of many here do not deserve a response. However, when one is in denial for crimes committed in their name, it is predictable that those very allies of Kadhafi would rush to his defense and defend the act of rape.

Yugo

pre 12 godina

This sounds familiar the US/West acussing another government of using rape as a tool in war.
The questions the journalists should raise are;
What sources have advised the US administration of this going on?
Have those sources been verified?
Is there a call for investigation into this accusation or is it another Racak false accusation.
Is this true or another propoganda campaign similar used against Yugoslavia?
Has the Gaddafi government actually placed it as a policy?
All these questions and many more need to be answered before the international community actually believe it is true.
US/West should be ashamed for spitting our accusations when they may not be true.

dd

pre 12 godina

ivan,

Just one honest question - do you really believe things you post?
You're just shorter version of sheman-frisco.
Same opssession - love and complex of Serbs - even of this unrelated topic - you find the way to shine.

CNN and west media raping whole world and normal brains for years and use it as the main weapon of war - and ivan and frisco is enjoying it - consenting it - learning from the best - organic fat-free green rape machine with deplated uranium icing.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

"...the State Department said in a statement and added that the International Criminal Court was informed about it."

The US snubs the authority of the ICC.
The US as well as Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, People's Republic of China, and Yemen do not recognoze the authority of the ICC.

The US did not ratify the treaty establishing the authority of the International Criminal Court and instead passes laws to protect their own leaders and personnel from prosecution.

Hypocrisy at its best!!

ZZ

pre 12 godina

I've read many times that Serb militaries and local militias did the same during the war in Bosnia. I would like to read both Serbs and non-Serbs on this issue. Many thanks.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

ok, lets see the evidence rhen hillary. last time it was 20,000 Albanians raped, however, at the end you could only find 92, and no evidence whatsoever to prove Milossevic's responsibility. So; wheres the evidence?

Dragan

pre 12 godina

We've seen this before from the same hysterical Clinton administration, ridiculous accusations lacking any proof or verification, simply more hate propoganda meant to further their geopolitical goals. Remember '100,000 dead albanians'? Wound up being less than 2,000 dead in combat. Remember the 'Racak Massacre'? A proven pure hoax. Remember 'Serbs throwing bodies down the Trepca mine shaft'? Again a proven lie, not one bit of forensic proof despite millions spent in investigating. Remember '200,000 dead Bosnians'? Total is approximately 104,000 dead on all sides, and around 60,000 on the Bosnian side. The list of blatant lies and propoganda is too long to post on here. I seem to recall one Bosnian muslim woman in Switzerland who claimed she was raped by Serbs, and then later gave birth to a black baby!
Hillary is an incompetent, and ignorant woman, who is married to a man who cheated on her with hundreds, yes HUNDREDS, of women, and she still sticks with him because she loves the limelight so much. Clearly, a woman with no shame, and no pride, and no scruples. Next time she accuses anyone of anything, consider the source.
She is so incompetent, that she pushed Obama to support one Libyan tribe against another, even though it is well known that the tribe she is supporting has Al Qaeda connections. Now Obama is in huge trouble and has to explain to the American public why they are fighting with Al Qaeda...lol. I love it. Obama and Hillary should be called 'Dumb and Dumber'.
Cheers!!

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Joe, "The US still can inform them. Nothing is wrong about it.
But leave it to a frustrated Serbian-American. He will criticize most everything since the bombing of 1999."

Poor Joe. Your indoctrination during your formative years of the "us-versus-them ideology", black and white, all or none, fills you with dark thoughts, frustration and intolerance, and an authoritative and caustic manner. It is rather sad and pathetic, really.

You need to take a US history class and read the founding fathers' thoughts. The reason we can speak out is because our founders were concerned about the powers of government and thus created the First Amendment.

In a democracy, differences of opinion are welcome but apparently, where you grew up, this was not the case.
You can love your country and still disagree with its policies. You can be patriotic and also realistic about your government’s flaws. The US needs to practice what it preaches; it reports countries to the ICC but refuses to be judged by the same body...hypocritical.

Your weak attempt to discredit my opinion is really counter-productive and serves no purpose. You need to lighten up, Joe, and loosen your underware.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

In response to you ZZ,

In my opinion what they are accusing Gaddafi of has got to be literally one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard, as with how they accused the Serbs of doing the same thing. Rape happens in war which is indeed an absolutely horrific thing, but it happens by all sides and to suggest that it was a governmental campaign is just laughable. There is strictly no evidence for it having been a war tool in either conflicts, however once the media prints a story the majority of naive and fickle minded people will believe it without question, hence why it is catching of. But with Libya the western media are saying that Gaddafi provides his soldiers with viagra to commit rape, now it doesnt take an extremely intelligent person to know that viagra is used for people with erectile disfunction, those people who are sick and disgusting enough to commit such a crime do not require it, to commit rape you have to be one twisted individual to be able to do it and to suggest that every soldier fighting for Gaddafi is sick and twisted is just absolute nonsense.