Good neighborly relations "one of EU preconditions”

"Well, actually good news. So all existing and future EU countries must recognize the territorial integrity of Serbia also.
No double standards!
(Ron, 15 June 2011 15:47)

Exactly all 5 of ;)
All neighbors respect Serbias territory, also Kosovos.

go and thell that to Angela, better she accepts it sooner than later, when russian gas gets more and more important for your country.

cheers. =)
(Jovan, 15 June 2011 11:08
Alas, another poor soul that actually thinks that Russia will allow Serbia to hold its gas hostage anytime it wishes. I see a rude awakening in your future. Should anyone in your govt be stupid enough to try such a stunt, Serbia will find out just how strong that Serb-Russian brotherhood bond actually is.
You will be a transit system only with the control of the valves in Russia not Serbia!

That are the moments where I'm proud to be a German citizen. Many love Germany, some hate it, but all respect it for his power. There is no way around Berlin, no matter if Jeremic exceeds the trillion flight kilometers. Dead End...

Having to be lectured by a German on any subject let alone good neigbourly relations or handing over so called war criminals is like having to listen to Hannibal Lector lecture on cookery.
Herr Minister when your country has washed the blood off its hands then come and tell us all what we should be doing.
(sj, 15 June 2011 11:24)
So you have no problem with having the blood on "your" hands just in Germany lecturing you about it.

"So you have no problem with having the blood on "your" hands just in Germany lecturing you about it."
doodah

This is called the usual Serbian double standard.

I am reading this article, and Serbs are fully aware what they need to do in order to join European family, yet I read another article above what Mr. Wolf is saying, and I am thinking when will Serbia get it right!?

Herr Hoyer tell them please because the serbs just don't get it or better tell them stright forward that they need to recognise Kosovo before they can move towards the EU. Danke schön Herr Hoyer and alles guts. Tschüss.

... and according to Germany (that recognizes Kosovo's independence and borders) Kosovo and Serbia are neighbors.

Twist it any way you like, it is what it is.

Having to be lectured by a German on any subject let alone good neigbourly relations or handing over so called war criminals is like having to listen to Hannibal Lector lecture on cookery.
Herr Minister when your country has washed the blood off its hands then come and tell us all what we should be doing.

well, since Serbia has no aspirations towards Albania, that should be no problem at all. Serbia is of course recognizing all neighbouring countries´ territorial integrity. all neighbouring COUNTRIES. KiM nevertheless, is not a country, it´s our southern province.

go and thell that to Angela, better she accepts it sooner than later, when russian gas gets more and more important for your country.

cheers. =)

While the other 26 Eu countries can say what they want regarding enlargement issue the "Panzers" have always the last and decisive word..
They pay and so they decide who and when...The sad truth is this plane and simple so better listen to Mr.Otto...

Of course you dont have to be a careful reader to grasp what this german is saying-recognize kosovo because it is a pre condition-its that simple. How is the Tadic regime going to lie its way out of this.

Strange isnt it that the germans are preaching about being good neighbors! Well this is good because our biggest allies in removing the Tadic clan from power are serbias greatest foes in the West.

The west does not want little russia (serbia) in its exclusive club and thats ok. Its time to move on to more pressing issues such as the danger from Iranian missiles and in order to prevent an Iranian attack Serbia should place russian interceptor missiles on its territory, bolster its military and invite russian military contingents to help against the threat from Iran. And if you think thats far fetched-JUST WATCH-----we will become the greatest thorn in the side of that exclusive european club.

Since Kosovo cannot be considered a country, where's the problem?
(Analyst, 15 June 2011 17:33)

Ask Germany foreign minister. Last time I checked, Germany and 21 other countries of EU consider Kosovo as country.
Whether Kosovo is country for Serbia or not, it does not matter as EU did not apply for union with Serbia, but Serbia applied for joining the EU.
Therefore the recipient of application calls the shots not applicant.

“We go from a fact that borders in the Balkans have been drawn and that it is a reality that nobody should question,” Hoyer pointed out.
Are these borders that nobody should question the ones drawn up in UN Resolution 1244 ie Kosovo being an autonomous province of Serbia?

Since Kosovo cannot be considered a country, where's the problem?
(Analyst, 15 June 2011 17:33)

The problem is Albaians are independent and serbia doesn't want to accept. The Eu is telling them to recognize if you want to join.
What will serbia do is the dilema.
Either way Albanians remian independent:)

Kosovo is not a country, so all's well. Thanks for clearing that up Herr Westerwelle. Danke und alles fur Europa!

Guys twist the story the way it suits your needs but we all know how Germany feels about Kosovos independence. I'm sure you all know what this Herr H. meant when he said have good neighbourly relations.

go and thell that to Angela, better she accepts it sooner than later, when russian gas gets more and more important for your country.

cheers. =)
(Jovan, 15 June 2011 11:08)

With sufficient number of Russian military bases all over Serbia Germany will support Serbia's territorial integrity. I think it is an easier short-cut than trying to snake your way into EU somehow. Less dangerous, too.... I did see way to many roadkill snakes. Maybe still one less, than optimal - but that will, too, happen ultimately.

Well, actually good news. So all existing and future EU countries must recognize the territorial integrity of Serbia also.
No double standards!

Since Kosovo cannot be considered a country, where's the problem?

“As far as European Union enlargement is concerned, a precondition is to recognize territorial integrity of neighboring countries, of all neighboring countries,” he told reporters." ---Werner Hoyer

Serbia must recognize the territorial integrity of neighboring countries...that is okay as Kosovo is not a country. Germany, and the other 75 enemies of the right to territorial sovereignty, do not possess the right to tell Serbia which "countries" it must recognize, therefore, Serbia is under no obligation to recognize Kosovo and to carry-on neighborly relations with its own southern province.

What blood is that? NATO countries bombed the living c*** out of you Albanians in Kosovo and killed thousands then blamed Milosevic and you celebrate them as heroes. Oh the Germans and Turks took part in that episode.

Perhaps you are correct I should not blame the Germans for doing such a good job on you guys.
(sj, 16 June 2011 00:18)
Were you by chance the PR guy in the Milosevic regime, no one believed that nonsense then and no one (other than Serbs) believe that now. I really don't think they believe it just a case of if we say it enough maybe it will be true.

@pss: just wait, my dear k-albanian friend, we have time. and with Germany phasing out nuclear energy and with now even in Italy having a majority against nuclear plants, russian influence will grow.

there is no doubt about it, and you make a mistake if you really believe that I think Russia is "our friend" just as so many of you clueless k-albanians think of the USofA, ... no my dear, the Russians see first and foremost their own interests. that´s only natural.

where it gets interesting is, when these interests serve serbian purposes. and here´s where you don´t seem to get it. what you fail to see is...that it is not about "control over valves"... no, it is about changing circumstances in a wider scale. but then again, what else should you, in your position, say anyway. that´s all to what you are reduced to.

well, we will see who the poor soul really is, actually.

and with due respect, I think that your comment shows it quite clear!

Well, Kosovo isn't a country so we don't have a problem......do we?

All neighbors respect Serbias territory, also Kosovos.
(bumbumtsssc, 15 June 2011 16:25)

Well, if you recognize Serbia's territorial integrity that means you accept that Kosovo is a Serbian province.
Fortunately the UN does: 1244!

So you have no problem with having the blood on "your" hands just in Germany lecturing you about it.
(doodah, 15 June 2011 13:58)


What blood is that? NATO countries bombed the living c*** out of you Albanians in Kosovo and killed thousands then blamed Milosevic and you celebrate them as heroes. Oh the Germans and Turks took part in that episode.

Perhaps you are correct I should not blame the Germans for doing such a good job on you guys.

Serbia should stop trying or wanting to get into the EU - the EU is anti Serb and Serbia does worse for itself agreeing to all the EU conditions. Serbia's economy has deteriorated in the last 11 years by following EU rules, advice and dictates. Serbia should concentrate on non-EU countries and solving its own internal problems for itself.

Were you by chance the PR guy in the Milosevic regime, no one believed that nonsense then and no one (other than Serbs) believe that now. I really don't think they believe it just a case of if we say it enough maybe it will be true.
(doodah, 16 June 2011 14:39)


You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. Believe what you like but NATO bombed the crapper out of Kosovo and they were not too accurate or very concerned in their actions i.e. anything that moved or looked like military hardware was blown to pieces and some of that “hardware’ was houses with people living in them.
NATO knew they could blame old Slobo for everything so they just hit anything.

The problem with you Albanians living in the US is your brainwashed. If they told you guys that Santa Clause lives on the moon you would believe it.

well, since Serbia has no aspirations towards Albania, that should be no problem at all. Serbia is of course recognizing all neighbouring countries´ territorial integrity. all neighbouring COUNTRIES. KiM nevertheless, is not a country, it´s our southern province.

go and thell that to Angela, better she accepts it sooner than later, when russian gas gets more and more important for your country.

cheers. =)

go and thell that to Angela, better she accepts it sooner than later, when russian gas gets more and more important for your country.

cheers. =)
(Jovan, 15 June 2011 11:08)

With sufficient number of Russian military bases all over Serbia Germany will support Serbia's territorial integrity. I think it is an easier short-cut than trying to snake your way into EU somehow. Less dangerous, too.... I did see way to many roadkill snakes. Maybe still one less, than optimal - but that will, too, happen ultimately.

Having to be lectured by a German on any subject let alone good neigbourly relations or handing over so called war criminals is like having to listen to Hannibal Lector lecture on cookery.
Herr Minister when your country has washed the blood off its hands then come and tell us all what we should be doing.

Of course you dont have to be a careful reader to grasp what this german is saying-recognize kosovo because it is a pre condition-its that simple. How is the Tadic regime going to lie its way out of this.

Strange isnt it that the germans are preaching about being good neighbors! Well this is good because our biggest allies in removing the Tadic clan from power are serbias greatest foes in the West.

The west does not want little russia (serbia) in its exclusive club and thats ok. Its time to move on to more pressing issues such as the danger from Iranian missiles and in order to prevent an Iranian attack Serbia should place russian interceptor missiles on its territory, bolster its military and invite russian military contingents to help against the threat from Iran. And if you think thats far fetched-JUST WATCH-----we will become the greatest thorn in the side of that exclusive european club.

@pss: just wait, my dear k-albanian friend, we have time. and with Germany phasing out nuclear energy and with now even in Italy having a majority against nuclear plants, russian influence will grow.

there is no doubt about it, and you make a mistake if you really believe that I think Russia is "our friend" just as so many of you clueless k-albanians think of the USofA, ... no my dear, the Russians see first and foremost their own interests. that´s only natural.

where it gets interesting is, when these interests serve serbian purposes. and here´s where you don´t seem to get it. what you fail to see is...that it is not about "control over valves"... no, it is about changing circumstances in a wider scale. but then again, what else should you, in your position, say anyway. that´s all to what you are reduced to.

well, we will see who the poor soul really is, actually.

and with due respect, I think that your comment shows it quite clear!

“We go from a fact that borders in the Balkans have been drawn and that it is a reality that nobody should question,” Hoyer pointed out.
Are these borders that nobody should question the ones drawn up in UN Resolution 1244 ie Kosovo being an autonomous province of Serbia?

Well, actually good news. So all existing and future EU countries must recognize the territorial integrity of Serbia also.
No double standards!

Kosovo is not a country, so all's well. Thanks for clearing that up Herr Westerwelle. Danke und alles fur Europa!

Herr Hoyer tell them please because the serbs just don't get it or better tell them stright forward that they need to recognise Kosovo before they can move towards the EU. Danke schön Herr Hoyer and alles guts. Tschüss.

Since Kosovo cannot be considered a country, where's the problem?

“As far as European Union enlargement is concerned, a precondition is to recognize territorial integrity of neighboring countries, of all neighboring countries,” he told reporters." ---Werner Hoyer

Serbia must recognize the territorial integrity of neighboring countries...that is okay as Kosovo is not a country. Germany, and the other 75 enemies of the right to territorial sovereignty, do not possess the right to tell Serbia which "countries" it must recognize, therefore, Serbia is under no obligation to recognize Kosovo and to carry-on neighborly relations with its own southern province.

All neighbors respect Serbias territory, also Kosovos.
(bumbumtsssc, 15 June 2011 16:25)

Well, if you recognize Serbia's territorial integrity that means you accept that Kosovo is a Serbian province.
Fortunately the UN does: 1244!

Well, Kosovo isn't a country so we don't have a problem......do we?

I am reading this article, and Serbs are fully aware what they need to do in order to join European family, yet I read another article above what Mr. Wolf is saying, and I am thinking when will Serbia get it right!?

Having to be lectured by a German on any subject let alone good neigbourly relations or handing over so called war criminals is like having to listen to Hannibal Lector lecture on cookery.
Herr Minister when your country has washed the blood off its hands then come and tell us all what we should be doing.
(sj, 15 June 2011 11:24)
So you have no problem with having the blood on "your" hands just in Germany lecturing you about it.

So you have no problem with having the blood on "your" hands just in Germany lecturing you about it.
(doodah, 15 June 2011 13:58)


What blood is that? NATO countries bombed the living c*** out of you Albanians in Kosovo and killed thousands then blamed Milosevic and you celebrate them as heroes. Oh the Germans and Turks took part in that episode.

Perhaps you are correct I should not blame the Germans for doing such a good job on you guys.

"So you have no problem with having the blood on "your" hands just in Germany lecturing you about it."
doodah

This is called the usual Serbian double standard.

go and thell that to Angela, better she accepts it sooner than later, when russian gas gets more and more important for your country.

cheers. =)
(Jovan, 15 June 2011 11:08
Alas, another poor soul that actually thinks that Russia will allow Serbia to hold its gas hostage anytime it wishes. I see a rude awakening in your future. Should anyone in your govt be stupid enough to try such a stunt, Serbia will find out just how strong that Serb-Russian brotherhood bond actually is.
You will be a transit system only with the control of the valves in Russia not Serbia!

Serbia should stop trying or wanting to get into the EU - the EU is anti Serb and Serbia does worse for itself agreeing to all the EU conditions. Serbia's economy has deteriorated in the last 11 years by following EU rules, advice and dictates. Serbia should concentrate on non-EU countries and solving its own internal problems for itself.

While the other 26 Eu countries can say what they want regarding enlargement issue the "Panzers" have always the last and decisive word..
They pay and so they decide who and when...The sad truth is this plane and simple so better listen to Mr.Otto...

... and according to Germany (that recognizes Kosovo's independence and borders) Kosovo and Serbia are neighbors.

Twist it any way you like, it is what it is.

"Well, actually good news. So all existing and future EU countries must recognize the territorial integrity of Serbia also.
No double standards!
(Ron, 15 June 2011 15:47)

Exactly all 5 of ;)
All neighbors respect Serbias territory, also Kosovos.

That are the moments where I'm proud to be a German citizen. Many love Germany, some hate it, but all respect it for his power. There is no way around Berlin, no matter if Jeremic exceeds the trillion flight kilometers. Dead End...

Since Kosovo cannot be considered a country, where's the problem?
(Analyst, 15 June 2011 17:33)

Ask Germany foreign minister. Last time I checked, Germany and 21 other countries of EU consider Kosovo as country.
Whether Kosovo is country for Serbia or not, it does not matter as EU did not apply for union with Serbia, but Serbia applied for joining the EU.
Therefore the recipient of application calls the shots not applicant.

Since Kosovo cannot be considered a country, where's the problem?
(Analyst, 15 June 2011 17:33)

The problem is Albaians are independent and serbia doesn't want to accept. The Eu is telling them to recognize if you want to join.
What will serbia do is the dilema.
Either way Albanians remian independent:)

Were you by chance the PR guy in the Milosevic regime, no one believed that nonsense then and no one (other than Serbs) believe that now. I really don't think they believe it just a case of if we say it enough maybe it will be true.
(doodah, 16 June 2011 14:39)


You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. Believe what you like but NATO bombed the crapper out of Kosovo and they were not too accurate or very concerned in their actions i.e. anything that moved or looked like military hardware was blown to pieces and some of that “hardware’ was houses with people living in them.
NATO knew they could blame old Slobo for everything so they just hit anything.

The problem with you Albanians living in the US is your brainwashed. If they told you guys that Santa Clause lives on the moon you would believe it.

Guys twist the story the way it suits your needs but we all know how Germany feels about Kosovos independence. I'm sure you all know what this Herr H. meant when he said have good neighbourly relations.

What blood is that? NATO countries bombed the living c*** out of you Albanians in Kosovo and killed thousands then blamed Milosevic and you celebrate them as heroes. Oh the Germans and Turks took part in that episode.

Perhaps you are correct I should not blame the Germans for doing such a good job on you guys.
(sj, 16 June 2011 00:18)
Were you by chance the PR guy in the Milosevic regime, no one believed that nonsense then and no one (other than Serbs) believe that now. I really don't think they believe it just a case of if we say it enough maybe it will be true.