Two K. Albanians arrested for stoning Serbian bus

Arrested and then released. No surprises here that there has been a failure to prosecute animals like these, the terrorism against the Serbian people goes on. The EU, NATO and especially the Pristina authorities cannot be trusted to protect Serbian people, only a Serbian Police or military force can garauntee the safety of Serbian people.

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.

“The case is being treated as an offence of disturbing public order and peace, “he added.

So, what is the penalty listed in Kosovo laws for people doing these things?
At least one improvement: KPS doesn't use the words 'playing kids' or 'adolescents' this time, would be ridiculous, anyway...

"59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)"

Agim, don´t you realize that you are not capable of condemning albanian crimes at all? it´s so sad, you simply cannot stand the truth, do you?

you are welcome to condemn the killing of serbian children which were bathing in a river, when they were shot by albanian terrorists.

will you condemn that or will you also find excuses for this animal-like behaviour?

or the beating of an old serbian woman, will you condemn that?

where is that culture, where is that maturity, and ...where is that humanity in you?

do you have something like that at all inside of you?

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)

And? That doesn't justify stoning a f***ing bus just because it has Serbs sitting in it.

“The case is being treated as an offence of disturbing public order and peace, “he added.
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How about treating it as a hate crime?
Perhaps inciting violence which was racially motivated.
Too much to ask I guess.

Agim, don´t you realize that you are not capable of condemning albanian crimes at all? it´s so sad, you simply cannot stand the truth, do you?

you are welcome to condemn the killing of serbian children which were bathing in a river, when they were shot by albanian terrorists.

will you condemn that or will you also find excuses for this animal-like behaviour?

or the beating of an old serbian woman, will you condemn that?

where is that culture, where is that maturity, and ...where is that humanity in you?

do you have something like that at all inside of you?
(Jovan, 12 June 2011 14:02)


Jovan crimes against serbs were done by indivduals and not Kosovo or some kind of structures of Kosovo. Not even the KLA but ony individuals. We ordinary people cannot be represented by those who did crimes against serbs because we dident elect those as our representatives. We the people of Kosovo cannot apology for criminals behavour.

I personaly condemd all crimes against innocent serb civilians as other civilians.

But where is the apology from your goverment for killing tens of thousand albanians in Kosovo ? Crimes against albanians were done by serbian miltary and police forces ordered by generals and the president. It is people that you as an serbian resident elected as your leaders. Is it so hard to understand??? Serbia owns an apology to the albanian victimes and their familys. Serbia can at least start to find the remaining of 1800 albanian civilians still missing.


Do you thing this 59 year old women care about wich serbs killed her children ? In my mind as long as her cildren are not found she has the right to hate all serbs since the majority serbs elected the killer of her children.

Can you even imagine being in her shoes Jovan ? What would life be worth in her shoes ??

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)


Well said Agim.

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)

Unless the people sitting in the bus were responsible for the unfortunate and tragic disappearance of her children, she has no reason to stone the bus. Using that as justification implies that people in the Balkans should permanently be engaged in vengeful bickering between themselves over family tragedies. Civilised people don't act that way, I'm sorry.

"59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them."

Agim Kelmendi

Damn, you have an answer for everything. To bad it isn't true. If it was you would provide a link but just like every time albanians at this forum make a claim it is without proof.

@Agim
could you just refrain from making comments like that, your stories dont suddenly make this latest example of Albanian terrorism any less important. Its as if by making such statements that everyone forgets this article and starts giving sympathy to the Albanian people, perhaps you would care to comment on this case instead of avoiding it and pretending it didnt happen. And please, if you want to turn this into point scoring about which side has committed more crimes, well theres no point, the Albanians have already won that contest.

Gjakmarrja, Albanian primitive Kunan honor killing, is at play here. Albanians cannot exist without revenge. And that revenge is now directed at all Serbs, because or Serb para-military, and military actions against KLA Albanians, and some civilians, during Kosovo's civil war. It will take generations, maybe, to bring these people into the 21st century.

enough is enough with their sap and stupid stories.
People were trying to pay respect to dead-albanians without shame or councience would not know what that is..this is a hate crime and it should be treated as such..

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)

You think that fact justifies her actions, to throw stones at a bus with Serbs who want to visit a cemetary? Interesting, but well, obviously, that's the Kosovo Albanian way of a justice system: An eye for an eye. Hmm, in fact, it's not even that, more like feudal blood revenge. Wake up, Demi, I though you want to adapt to European standards?

"Jovan crimes against serbs were done by indivduals and not Kosovo or some kind of structures of Kosovo. Not even the KLA but ony individuals. We ordinary people cannot be represented by those who did crimes against serbs because we dident elect those as our representatives. We the people of Kosovo cannot apology for criminals behavour." (Demi)

-- If that were the case here, then the two people throwing stones should be bused to the heart of Belgrade and allowed to throw stones at the Skupstina to their heart's content. Or better yet, drive them to Pozarevac where they can hurl stones and insults at Milosevic's grave. But throwing stones at innocent Serbs citizens on their way to visit the graves of their own loved ones - basically Serbs minding their own business and had nothing to do with whatever case of missing persons that may or may not be true - makes the problem only perpetuate. If you condemn attacks against ordinary Serbs but still understand why they occured you're still looking for justification of your own side's actions and basically conclude that any and all Serbs are representative of a group of criminals that are now largely dead or incarcerated.

Agim, don´t you realize that you are not capable of condemning albanian crimes at all?
(Jovan, 12 June 2011 14:02)

As one honorable member of "Team Kosova" explained to us once:

Kosovo is the only world's country without crime. Period. There is nothing to condemn because there is no Albanian crime. Case closed.

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Gjakmarrja, Albanian primitive Kunan honor killing, is at play here. Albanians cannot exist without revenge. And that revenge is now directed at all Serbs, because or Serb para-military, and military actions against KLA Albanians, and some civilians, during Kosovo's civil war. It will take generations, maybe, to bring these people into the 21st century.
(progresso, 12 June 2011 15:52)

It is enough if you VERBALLY contest their honor based on their postings. You will get REAL threats.
See here:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=74861

In detail:

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4849/picture26.jpg

As far as 21st century:

a) at the time they will be there, the actual century will be at the "31" mark.
b) who tries to bring them there will be exposed to their collective hate.

To the defense of Albanians in general: in the reality I am talking about probably 10, maximum 15 hard-core people... most not even living in the area. I can safely say that I did not see more bigot, stupid, humorless, mean-spirited people in my life than this gang.

Good example is a certain regular Albanian who is living in the States. I asked on his blog: "why don't you promote Kosovo positively, for more tourism? Putting down Serbia puts you down, too". His answer: "it's not time now for that". These people here dedicated them self to the destruction. No matter, what - you can't change their mindset.

How about treating it as a hate crime?
Perhaps inciting violence which was racially motivated.
Too much to ask I guess.
(Peggy, 12 June 2011 14:44)
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I assume you are talking about your own comments, aren't you? But self-reflection is too much to ask from you...

Obviously these Serbs were hardened war criminals from the 1990s. It's a good thing these two Albos were there to defend their town from a full-scale military assault. No doubt they will now be honored as UCK military veterans complete with gaudy statues and a big wet kiss from Thaci.

At least they weren't feral enough to throw their own poop :) Such a funny bunch of people they are.

This is what happens when you promote the dangerous concept of collective guilt.

Maybe the woman's kids are in a prison somewhere in Italy. That's probably where half of her other relatives reside (in jail).

The Serbs were probably visiting the graves of family members that were killed by the KLA terrorists. If you go by Albanian logic, the bus should have been doing drive by shootings on the way to the cemetery.

Keep showing your true colors, Albos.

You have just perfectly explained the serb mentality. Especially with that feeling more important than they really are, is a perfect serbian feeling.
(Simpatiku, 13 June 2011 01:33)

Who cares about Serbs? I'm talking about you silly people that pass yourselves off as strong and intelligent all over the internet when all we hear on the news about you is stuff from a Borat film LOL :)

assume you are talking about your own comments, aren't you? But self-reflection is too much to ask from you...
(Iznogoud, 12 June 2011 15:42)
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Looks who's talking about self reflection. Put a mirror or two in a Serbia church and see how you look when you are on a toilet. Now that would be self reflection.

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)


Well said Agim.

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)
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Maybe those same Serbs in the bus have loved ones in that cemetery who were put there by Albanians or worse still have loved ones missing, presumed being harvested for organs.

Do you see them stoning Albanian buses and vandalizing Albanian cemeteries or do you see them just grieving and getting on with life?
Now that is a difference between decent people and the opposite Demi.
It's clear which side belongs in the stone age and which side has evolved.

Good example is a certain regular Albanian who is living in the States. I asked on his blog: "why don't you promote Kosovo positively, for more tourism? Putting down Serbia puts you down, too". His answer: "it's not time now for that". These people here dedicated them self to the destruction. No matter, what - you can't change their mindset.
(Ataman, 12 June 2011 18:25)

That's because these people were brainwashed by Hoxha to believe they're something far greater than they are. Prior to him they were a collection of backward tribes living centuries behind all of their neighbors. Now that Hoxha told them they're Illyrians, they became -- drumroll -- a collection of backward tribes with a chip on their sholder because a history they never knew before was now stolen from them by Greeks and Slavs who are jealous of their advanced inteligence. Of course you can say whatever you want in a state as repressive and closed off as North Korea. But then what happens when Hoxha dies and they leave? The fun begins :)

Seriously, they plague internet forms like this trying to convince people they're far more advanced than reality shows. Even if they're caught jumping up and down like savages and flinging rocks or poo at people they make it into a victim story. Just wait because with the IMF basically telling Thaci he's stupid with money, Kosovo will economically collapse in a few months and I guarantee you they'll blame it on Serbia.

LOL Real silly people who get real angry when someone doesn't believe their Hoxha fairytales :)

"Propaganda here is at play. B92 wasn't there to comment on those people why they were throwing rocks? At least Albanian dailies (Koha Ditore, Kosova Sot, etc) did some investigative reporting on the matter.

It's a shame that I'm actually not in Gjakove to have helped this group throw rocks at the buses. I would love to send my faleminderit to people who call us "KLA terrorists", "animals", etc.

Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 June 2011 11:42)"

Well, throwing rocks (not mere pebbles or sand, mind you) at other people's property is a crime regardless of the reasons behind it. Or don't you understand this simple fact as evidenced by your base desire to throw some rocks of your own?

okay, Demi, at least you have the guts to condemn albanian crimes against serb civilians. but what do you do about it, actually?

why are you speaking of "tens of thousands of albanian victims", when the UN have made quite clear that the number of victims of the civilwar inside Serbia in 1998 and ß 99 is a lot smaller, and is made up by a serbian half and a quite similarly big albanian half.

so, why are you posting propaganda here, when it is commonly known that there were no "tens of thousands of albanian victims"?

on the one hand you write that you condemn all crimes against innocent civilians, but on the ohter hand you, even in the same comment, you go on with propaganda!

why?

are you being forced to do so? I ask because, even you MUST know by now, that the real number of victims is much smaller. so there must be a reason for you behaviour in here...

I condemn every crime against albanian civilians too, of course. but that makes no difference in my opinion that the illegal landgrab is just and simple theft. usurpation. nothing else. and those who commit these albanian crimes, will not get away with that.

This is the desperation of a mother to whom the Milosevoc's barbarians kidnapped 2 of her sons aged 15 and 16 and of who’s fate she doesn’t know anything for 11 years now.

And some of the Milosevic's servants perhaps even eye witnesses are now driving in a busses protected as they are respectful people not barbarians that did all that harm to the innocent people.

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)


Well said Agim.

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)

Unless the people sitting in the bus were responsible for the unfortunate and tragic disappearance of her children, she has no reason to stone the bus. Using that as justification implies that people in the Balkans should permanently be engaged in vengeful bickering between themselves over family tragedies. Civilised people don't act that way, I'm sorry.
(Stefan, 12 June 2011 15:38)

Stefan when you speak to Germans today about WW2 none say I did not do it but they put their head down in shame. Serbs who lived in Kosovo were all mobilized as Djakovica is a very small town where less than 6000 Serbs lived before Bosnin war people know each other and Serbs all new Albanin as in this town people were laughed how bad they spoke Serbian compare to any place in Kosovo.

The pain caused in this city is still vivid today and it was done by many citizens living in that city for Generations. So when any of them tend to come and visit its hard to say who it was as many Serbs wore masks during the cleansing of the city.

The pain of was of Kosovo is not felt in no other place as it is in this city, and for them it will be like this for long time as many young men are missing.

So it does not really matter if the people in the Bus committed the actual crime it could be their son or neighbor or they were there when it happened as 100% of people were mobelized and even if they were working for PTK, Elektrokosovo metalik they did Police duties few days a week.

If you owned a business you had to pay them with gifts to leave you alone, but this was normal business practice and people moved on, what they can not forget its those people made the list to execute many people who were not KLA especially this woman her sons sold car parts and were in their home the night they got killed.

So its easy for a person from far to judge or put 2 cent in to something without felling the pain or knowing the truth. You see only Serbian part but not the reason she went to through a rock at age 59.

I was born in this city and had a store across the street from this 2 young men and still do not grasp how they were killed for no reason. I also have a brother that is 14years old that still gets tears in his eyes when he remember the war or how the police broke in to our home. I have had the chance to meet many Serbs before the war and even my roomate in college by chance was a SERB and dont blame them all, but I tell you that my brother will never be able to befriend a Serb and even refuses to learn Serbian due to the pain he feels.

So I hope this can help you understand the way this woman was brought to go in street and through a rock at a bus.

So I hope this can help you understand the way this woman was brought to go in street and through a rock at a bus.
(Engineer, 12 June 2011 20:46)

Much better explanation than what the rest did. Unfortunately the comparison with Germans is not correct. Unlike the WW-II this conflict is several centuries old and unlike the WW-II here no side can claim to be the only victim.

May I remind you of burning the body of Sv. Sava by Sinan Pasha and what stones Albanians used to build the Sinan Pasha mosque in Prizren.

Besides the buildings and relicts of saints there were thousands of innocent Serbs killed over centuries. At one point in the begin of 20th Century things got reversed and Albanians begun to receive the "payback".

The "payback" was reversed during the WW-II again and again in the decade of 1989-1999.

Time to stop throwing rocks, I think.

"I could care less about property of murders, rapists, and racists. Serbs lost all moral and legal rights to Kosovo after 1999. My 2 story flat and the boutique were all torched to the ground by your paramilitaries....the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks.


Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 June 2011 19:30)"

From the contents of your post, you were obviously referring to me. What is this "the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks" hysteria emitting from you? DidI say that I'm a Serb or even in the Balklans?

As for Serbs losing "all moral and legal rights to Kosovo", perhaps you better check with your new masters in the West first. They definitely would disagree with you (since they still cling on to this absurd fantasy of a multiethnic Kosovo paradise) and you guys can't afford to offend them in case they drop you like a hot potato!

And don't expect me to feel sorry for someone like you who just reeks of vengence and wanna throw rocks at others. To me that is just plain wrong!

Killers arent welcome, go back to Serbia. We know who did what.

Arrested and then released.
[...]
(The Truth, 12 June 2011 11:09)

Correct, nobody was harmed and apparently there was no damage either. So what is your problem? (Besides that they are Albanian)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks, but can't handle criticism.
Is the above mentioned by the way some kind of ritual you perform in your churches?
(Iznogoud, 13 June 2011 05:12)
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If you actually did think your lot would not be seen in the light they are seen everywhere.
As far as a ritual in a church is concerned, it is only your lot again which practice this.
Find a church and use it as a toilet. Wow, so classy.

From what I know stoning the devil is allowed in the Islamic religion.

Seriously, they plague internet forms like this trying to convince people they're far more advanced than reality shows. Even if they're caught jumping up and down like savages and flinging rocks or poo at people they make it into a victim story. Just wait because with the IMF basically telling Thaci he's stupid with money, Kosovo will economically collapse in a few months and I guarantee you they'll blame it on Serbia.

LOL Real silly people who get real angry when someone doesn't believe their Hoxha fairytales :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 12 June 2011 22:27)

You have just perfectly explained the serb mentality. Especially with that feeling more important than they really are, is a perfect serbian feeling.

Put a mirror or two in a Serbia church and see how you look when you are on a toilet. Now that would be self reflection.
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks, but can't handle criticism.
Is the above mentioned by the way some kind of ritual you perform in your churches?

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)
# Comment link

Recommend (+12)Poor comment (-13)What's this“The case is being treated as an offence of disturbing public order and peace, “he added.

So, what is the penalty listed in Kosovo laws for people doing these things?
At least one improvement: KPS doesn't use the words 'playing kids' or 'adolescents' this time, would be ridiculous, anyway...
(Top, 12 June 2011 11:18)
Yeah they listed the real enemies of Serbia 59 year old village women and small rocks.
When Serbia speaks of the persecution of Serbs they headline grieving village women throwing rocks, when the world speaks of the persecution by Serbs they speak of burning villages, murder, rapes, beatings, tortures.
Lets put this heinous woman under the jail not in it

Maybe those same Serbs in the bus have loved ones in that cemetery who were put there by Albanians or worse still have loved ones missing, presumed being harvested for organs.

Do you see them stoning Albanian buses and vandalizing Albanian cemeteries or do you see them just grieving and getting on with life?
Now that is a difference between decent people and the opposite Demi.
It's clear which side belongs in the stone age and which side has evolved.
(Peggy, 12 June 2011 23:47)



Those in the bus elected Milosevic as their leader and called on Milosevic to send the whole Yugoslav army to clean out the whole albanian popualtion out of Kosovo. That was also the plan wich failed. They diden't show us any respect when the serbian military came and took away two children from the poor 59 year old albanian women. They even pointed the finger and showed the military where the albanian neighbours were hiding. And now we should welcome those people with flowers do you say ?? They will never have any respect from me and they have no place in my neighbourhood!!!


And those people from the stoneage are those soldiers who came all the way from belgrade to take away the children of the poor albanian women. Not the poor women wich has nothing to look forward in her life anymore. We albanians never came to Serbia to take your village and destroy your people because we are a people with high moral. What reason had the serbian military for coming to my village and kill my neighbours ??


People who burn embassies just because another people decided to be free are people from stoneage. People who have murdered hundred of thousand civilians from neighbouring countrys are inhumane and deserve the highest punishment.


Serbs in Kosovo today have it alote better than albanians had it in the 90's in so called yugoslavia. Just look when albanians protested in 1981 or 1991 how they were treated by the serbian police and come and tell me wich people are from the stoneage.


You people killed hundred of thousand civilians in Bosnia,Kosovo and Croatia and you have the guts to call albanians animals who have never come to Serbia to throw rocks at your bus. You cry about an church function as an public toilet or an bus wich were not dameged from the rocks but never think about the pain of the old 59 year old lady. That is called uncivilized!!


You peole who have destroyd our land and our villages are people from stoneage reamamber that!! You are not welcomed in Kosovo !!!!

@Demi:

how, for the heck of it, how do you know that exactly those people in that particular bus, that THEY voted for Milosevic?

don´t you see that this is ridiculous, actually?

@the other side of reality:

you really seem to live in just another side of reality! not only are you misinterpreting books that you are quoting, or at least mentioning, no you are also falling for the illyrian myth.

you are just and simply not the "indigenous" population of the balkans, this is simply an invention of yours. I have so many times asked for some proof, but all you Albanians are bringing up is some outdated sources like the encyclopedia britannica from over hundred years ago, or the literary pursuit of german writers and poets of the socalled "german romance"...

historians on the other side, say something completely different. and you don´t even have to be a scientist to see what is the simple truth...

there are no artifacts, no literary mentionings, no albanian indicator whatsoever, but you stubbornly hold up that myth as if there is nothing you´ve got instead.

in contrast to that, there are countless artifacts, documents, even from the ottoman-turkish occupiers, the toponomy, showing that KiM is serbian since the first nationstates emerged in europe, and before that, there were the illyrians, who you do not have anything to do with.

you have not produced anything relevant for historic acounts, you even took over some illyrian words and names, ..but the gypsies have done that too, they took a lot of language and idioms from other cultures like the armenian or persian one. and so did you with illyrian language. but that does not say that you are the descendants of the illyrians at all.

but, as you have rightfully chosen your nick-name here, you are really stuck in another reality, uncapable to leave your dark cave of ignorance, ...since it is too beautiful to believe to be the "indigenous" people...

you are a sad person, actually.

by the way: isn´t it interesting that our dear k-albanian friends are not getting tired of coming up with new nick-names, but always write the same nonsense? could there be a pattern to that? =)

a few days ago, Theo K. , and now all of a sudden "another side of reality" ...what is your problem folks? why are you always changing your nick-names? why not thinking a little bit about your own ancestry? why not finally facing the truth?

indeed, some of you are really sad individuals.

Propaganda here is at play. B92 wasn't there to comment on those people why they were throwing rocks? At least Albanian dailies (Koha Ditore, Kosova Sot, etc) did some investigative reporting on the matter.

It's a shame that I'm actually not in Gjakove to have helped this group throw rocks at the buses. I would love to send my faleminderit to people who call us "KLA terrorists", "animals", etc.




Thanks,

I'm talking about you silly people that pass yourselves off as strong and intelligent all over the internet when all we hear on the news about you is stuff from a Borat film LOL :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 13 June 2011 17:31)

This is insulting Borat, sorry. Here is a good example of Albanian truth - from the same guy who is obsessed with Arif Vladi, the heroic singer of Enver Hoxha

http://www.youtube.com/user/ILLYRICUMSACRUM

Comments:

"Serbabians before was a turkish bitches when their king car Lasar alied with Sulltan "

This is Albanian truth, the truth of all truths. Shame on you if you contest it. Tsar Lazar was sultan's poodle. Period. Proven in all books all around the world. Who has doubts is a Russian spy working for Milosheviqi.

Ataman, from your replies occasional, obviously you're a virtual agent that protects a unilateral matter and anti Albanian. You are very contradictory in your appearances, you try to make wrong interpretations of history by contributing to a hatred between Serbs and Albanians.
On the one hand you tell us how Albanians are responsible for all evils that have happened to the Serbs and on the other side you never accept that we existed before 50 or 100 years earlier. Please enough. Serbian doctrine since the 19th century to solve the Kosovo problem was to assimilate everything Albanian that exists with the barbaric means.
Albanians have never done a national program on how to solve the problem with the Serbs. While Serbia has made three memos state how it is legitimate to kill and to despise an Albanian, covering this barbarism with false myth of the Battle of Kosovo. Remember good in your head, that Albanians are indigenous nation here, and Serbs are newcomers in these territories. Although from Albanians had been taken more ground in the early Middle Ages, they are not nation who die.
Serbian theses for their history and history of the Albanians are the thrills without any scientific basis or document of the time. According to the Serbian logic of "historical rights" now Serbia will need to govern by Turkey.
Medieval Orthodox churches located in Kosovo (in Gracanica, Leviska in Prizren, Patriarchate in Peja, Church of Devic in Drenica) are not evidence of Serbian culture, because they are built before their arrival in these regions.
Later the church of Decani was designed and supervised construction project by Albanian Catholic priest Vita Kuçi from Kotor.
These explains very good the Serbian scientist Pero Slijepcevic who has published his study at 1934 on old Orthodox churches-monasteries where he says that these churches are not acts of Serbian rulers, whose name have them.
Nemanjics have financed far from the borders of their state in order to affirm their dynasty.
( Pero Slijepceviq; Stare Srpske zaduzhbine, ogledi, pages 92-122, Belgrade 1934)

LOL Real silly people who get real angry when someone doesn't believe their Hoxha fairytales :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 12 June 2011 22:27)

ROFL -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PENLsc-jDt8

Later the same singer changed his mind...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2XDLNy9xyU

don't worry... if the wind blows he will sing this one with pleasure. Such people know where the wind is blowing from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEmPaTc589M

At least, that eagle has two head, too ;-)

TUNG!

We albanians never came to Serbia to take your village and destroy your people because we are a people with high moral.
(Demi, 13 June 2011 18:32)

The best post of the century. High-five. Mr. demiclown - are you being paid by your "Prishtina" UÇK-crook circus for that comedy performance?

What's the old ladies name? I think the Albanians here are lying and making up stuff as usual.
Many Serbs were kidnapped and killed by the Albanians and it was the KLA which initiated the violence and even killed fellow Albanians who didn't join with them.
Albanians tactic was to draw the international community and NATO in so they provoked and provoked and provoked in order to get a crack down so they could point to it and call for NATO help.
They used terrorism and are rewarded for it by getting Kosovo.

These acts of stoning are just to prevent Serbs from coming back to their homes and property.
Albanians have stolen so much property from Kosovo Serbs and the Serbian state.

perhaps in the future you will care more for serb property, since times will change. and you will have to adjust yourself to the new situation, once the time has come.

just a week ago or so, I wrote about Germany´s decision to phase out nuclear engergy plants, and I wrote about it as a start-signal for a new europe. because, renewable energies need to be organized in the future, and I am quite sure that this move will have further consequences in the relations of Germany towards Russia, as the main supplier for natural gas. and guess what? just a few minutes ago I read about the Italians having voted notably clear against nuclear energy too! not only a slap for Mr.Berlusconi but also a signal of far reaching importance in regard to european energy-politics in the future.

I think the rest.. I leave it to you. you may go on dreaming about being the descendant of the illyrians and similar nonsense, while the world around you is changing...

oh, I am sorry for your store, that´s something very bad, althoug I ask myself why you do not blame the KLA-terrorist who started the mess at all, but, in the end, you are alive and healthy, and I presume you are young enough to pick the work up again, if you are not too busy with stoning innocent civilians.

Ataman, from your replies occasional, obviously you're a virtual agent that protects a unilateral matter and anti Albanian.
(the other side of reality, 13 June 2011 21:38)

I don't think that my person is that important.
Reading your clams I see quite a bit of contradiction.

Three biggest:

1) To build churches/monasteries like you mention you need a sponsor with serious money.
The first mention of Albanian sponsor who was capable doing that is the Muzaka family and their church in Kastoria. This is a good day and a half drive from Kosovo.

2) If these monuments with any connection to Albanian history - why do certain Albanian their best to destroy them?

3) These theories are almost exclusively of Albanian origin. As such, they are regarded as outside of mainstream. There is nothing wrong about being not a mainstream - but than you have the burden of proof.

Other contradictions in your writing include personal elements and in quite a few places simple things what I never said.

But at least thanks for using polite language. If you want further discussion and more I am open. In particular that I have genuine interest in these churches.

Thanks

I could care less about property of murders, rapists, and racists. Serbs lost all moral and legal rights to Kosovo after 1999. My 2 story flat and the boutique were all torched to the ground by your paramilitaries....the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks.



Thanks,

My 2 story flat and the boutique were all torched to the ground by your paramilitaries....the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks.



Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 June 2011 19:30)

If that is the case and if you telling the truth - all my condolences and good wishes to you in person. You should start with that story and not end with that. Did anyone repay you or you had to live with the damage?

BTW: you throw your hate at the wrong target and get only hate in exchange back. Every war has it's criminals and a civil war is even worse. While the criminals who damaged your property have to be punished - a chunk of responsibility is also on the total failure of the post-war reconciliation process.

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)


Well said Agim.

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....

Agim, don´t you realize that you are not capable of condemning albanian crimes at all? it´s so sad, you simply cannot stand the truth, do you?

you are welcome to condemn the killing of serbian children which were bathing in a river, when they were shot by albanian terrorists.

will you condemn that or will you also find excuses for this animal-like behaviour?

or the beating of an old serbian woman, will you condemn that?

where is that culture, where is that maturity, and ...where is that humanity in you?

do you have something like that at all inside of you?
(Jovan, 12 June 2011 14:02)


Jovan crimes against serbs were done by indivduals and not Kosovo or some kind of structures of Kosovo. Not even the KLA but ony individuals. We ordinary people cannot be represented by those who did crimes against serbs because we dident elect those as our representatives. We the people of Kosovo cannot apology for criminals behavour.

I personaly condemd all crimes against innocent serb civilians as other civilians.

But where is the apology from your goverment for killing tens of thousand albanians in Kosovo ? Crimes against albanians were done by serbian miltary and police forces ordered by generals and the president. It is people that you as an serbian resident elected as your leaders. Is it so hard to understand??? Serbia owns an apology to the albanian victimes and their familys. Serbia can at least start to find the remaining of 1800 albanian civilians still missing.


Do you thing this 59 year old women care about wich serbs killed her children ? In my mind as long as her cildren are not found she has the right to hate all serbs since the majority serbs elected the killer of her children.

Can you even imagine being in her shoes Jovan ? What would life be worth in her shoes ??

From what I know stoning the devil is allowed in the Islamic religion.

Arrested and then released. No surprises here that there has been a failure to prosecute animals like these, the terrorism against the Serbian people goes on. The EU, NATO and especially the Pristina authorities cannot be trusted to protect Serbian people, only a Serbian Police or military force can garauntee the safety of Serbian people.

This is the desperation of a mother to whom the Milosevoc's barbarians kidnapped 2 of her sons aged 15 and 16 and of who’s fate she doesn’t know anything for 11 years now.

And some of the Milosevic's servants perhaps even eye witnesses are now driving in a busses protected as they are respectful people not barbarians that did all that harm to the innocent people.

Killers arent welcome, go back to Serbia. We know who did what.

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)
# Comment link

Recommend (+12)Poor comment (-13)What's this“The case is being treated as an offence of disturbing public order and peace, “he added.

So, what is the penalty listed in Kosovo laws for people doing these things?
At least one improvement: KPS doesn't use the words 'playing kids' or 'adolescents' this time, would be ridiculous, anyway...
(Top, 12 June 2011 11:18)
Yeah they listed the real enemies of Serbia 59 year old village women and small rocks.
When Serbia speaks of the persecution of Serbs they headline grieving village women throwing rocks, when the world speaks of the persecution by Serbs they speak of burning villages, murder, rapes, beatings, tortures.
Lets put this heinous woman under the jail not in it

Arrested and then released.
[...]
(The Truth, 12 June 2011 11:09)

Correct, nobody was harmed and apparently there was no damage either. So what is your problem? (Besides that they are Albanian)

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)


Well said Agim.

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)

Unless the people sitting in the bus were responsible for the unfortunate and tragic disappearance of her children, she has no reason to stone the bus. Using that as justification implies that people in the Balkans should permanently be engaged in vengeful bickering between themselves over family tragedies. Civilised people don't act that way, I'm sorry.
(Stefan, 12 June 2011 15:38)

Stefan when you speak to Germans today about WW2 none say I did not do it but they put their head down in shame. Serbs who lived in Kosovo were all mobilized as Djakovica is a very small town where less than 6000 Serbs lived before Bosnin war people know each other and Serbs all new Albanin as in this town people were laughed how bad they spoke Serbian compare to any place in Kosovo.

The pain caused in this city is still vivid today and it was done by many citizens living in that city for Generations. So when any of them tend to come and visit its hard to say who it was as many Serbs wore masks during the cleansing of the city.

The pain of was of Kosovo is not felt in no other place as it is in this city, and for them it will be like this for long time as many young men are missing.

So it does not really matter if the people in the Bus committed the actual crime it could be their son or neighbor or they were there when it happened as 100% of people were mobelized and even if they were working for PTK, Elektrokosovo metalik they did Police duties few days a week.

If you owned a business you had to pay them with gifts to leave you alone, but this was normal business practice and people moved on, what they can not forget its those people made the list to execute many people who were not KLA especially this woman her sons sold car parts and were in their home the night they got killed.

So its easy for a person from far to judge or put 2 cent in to something without felling the pain or knowing the truth. You see only Serbian part but not the reason she went to through a rock at age 59.

I was born in this city and had a store across the street from this 2 young men and still do not grasp how they were killed for no reason. I also have a brother that is 14years old that still gets tears in his eyes when he remember the war or how the police broke in to our home. I have had the chance to meet many Serbs before the war and even my roomate in college by chance was a SERB and dont blame them all, but I tell you that my brother will never be able to befriend a Serb and even refuses to learn Serbian due to the pain he feels.

So I hope this can help you understand the way this woman was brought to go in street and through a rock at a bus.

assume you are talking about your own comments, aren't you? But self-reflection is too much to ask from you...
(Iznogoud, 12 June 2011 15:42)
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Looks who's talking about self reflection. Put a mirror or two in a Serbia church and see how you look when you are on a toilet. Now that would be self reflection.

“The case is being treated as an offence of disturbing public order and peace, “he added.

So, what is the penalty listed in Kosovo laws for people doing these things?
At least one improvement: KPS doesn't use the words 'playing kids' or 'adolescents' this time, would be ridiculous, anyway...

How about treating it as a hate crime?
Perhaps inciting violence which was racially motivated.
Too much to ask I guess.
(Peggy, 12 June 2011 14:44)
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I assume you are talking about your own comments, aren't you? But self-reflection is too much to ask from you...

Maybe those same Serbs in the bus have loved ones in that cemetery who were put there by Albanians or worse still have loved ones missing, presumed being harvested for organs.

Do you see them stoning Albanian buses and vandalizing Albanian cemeteries or do you see them just grieving and getting on with life?
Now that is a difference between decent people and the opposite Demi.
It's clear which side belongs in the stone age and which side has evolved.
(Peggy, 12 June 2011 23:47)



Those in the bus elected Milosevic as their leader and called on Milosevic to send the whole Yugoslav army to clean out the whole albanian popualtion out of Kosovo. That was also the plan wich failed. They diden't show us any respect when the serbian military came and took away two children from the poor 59 year old albanian women. They even pointed the finger and showed the military where the albanian neighbours were hiding. And now we should welcome those people with flowers do you say ?? They will never have any respect from me and they have no place in my neighbourhood!!!


And those people from the stoneage are those soldiers who came all the way from belgrade to take away the children of the poor albanian women. Not the poor women wich has nothing to look forward in her life anymore. We albanians never came to Serbia to take your village and destroy your people because we are a people with high moral. What reason had the serbian military for coming to my village and kill my neighbours ??


People who burn embassies just because another people decided to be free are people from stoneage. People who have murdered hundred of thousand civilians from neighbouring countrys are inhumane and deserve the highest punishment.


Serbs in Kosovo today have it alote better than albanians had it in the 90's in so called yugoslavia. Just look when albanians protested in 1981 or 1991 how they were treated by the serbian police and come and tell me wich people are from the stoneage.


You people killed hundred of thousand civilians in Bosnia,Kosovo and Croatia and you have the guts to call albanians animals who have never come to Serbia to throw rocks at your bus. You cry about an church function as an public toilet or an bus wich were not dameged from the rocks but never think about the pain of the old 59 year old lady. That is called uncivilized!!


You peole who have destroyd our land and our villages are people from stoneage reamamber that!! You are not welcomed in Kosovo !!!!

Maybe the woman's kids are in a prison somewhere in Italy. That's probably where half of her other relatives reside (in jail).

The Serbs were probably visiting the graves of family members that were killed by the KLA terrorists. If you go by Albanian logic, the bus should have been doing drive by shootings on the way to the cemetery.

Keep showing your true colors, Albos.

Propaganda here is at play. B92 wasn't there to comment on those people why they were throwing rocks? At least Albanian dailies (Koha Ditore, Kosova Sot, etc) did some investigative reporting on the matter.

It's a shame that I'm actually not in Gjakove to have helped this group throw rocks at the buses. I would love to send my faleminderit to people who call us "KLA terrorists", "animals", etc.




Thanks,

Gjakmarrja, Albanian primitive Kunan honor killing, is at play here. Albanians cannot exist without revenge. And that revenge is now directed at all Serbs, because or Serb para-military, and military actions against KLA Albanians, and some civilians, during Kosovo's civil war. It will take generations, maybe, to bring these people into the 21st century.

enough is enough with their sap and stupid stories.
People were trying to pay respect to dead-albanians without shame or councience would not know what that is..this is a hate crime and it should be treated as such..

"59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)"

Agim, don´t you realize that you are not capable of condemning albanian crimes at all? it´s so sad, you simply cannot stand the truth, do you?

you are welcome to condemn the killing of serbian children which were bathing in a river, when they were shot by albanian terrorists.

will you condemn that or will you also find excuses for this animal-like behaviour?

or the beating of an old serbian woman, will you condemn that?

where is that culture, where is that maturity, and ...where is that humanity in you?

do you have something like that at all inside of you?

“The case is being treated as an offence of disturbing public order and peace, “he added.
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How about treating it as a hate crime?
Perhaps inciting violence which was racially motivated.
Too much to ask I guess.

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)
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Maybe those same Serbs in the bus have loved ones in that cemetery who were put there by Albanians or worse still have loved ones missing, presumed being harvested for organs.

Do you see them stoning Albanian buses and vandalizing Albanian cemeteries or do you see them just grieving and getting on with life?
Now that is a difference between decent people and the opposite Demi.
It's clear which side belongs in the stone age and which side has evolved.

Good example is a certain regular Albanian who is living in the States. I asked on his blog: "why don't you promote Kosovo positively, for more tourism? Putting down Serbia puts you down, too". His answer: "it's not time now for that". These people here dedicated them self to the destruction. No matter, what - you can't change their mindset.
(Ataman, 12 June 2011 18:25)

That's because these people were brainwashed by Hoxha to believe they're something far greater than they are. Prior to him they were a collection of backward tribes living centuries behind all of their neighbors. Now that Hoxha told them they're Illyrians, they became -- drumroll -- a collection of backward tribes with a chip on their sholder because a history they never knew before was now stolen from them by Greeks and Slavs who are jealous of their advanced inteligence. Of course you can say whatever you want in a state as repressive and closed off as North Korea. But then what happens when Hoxha dies and they leave? The fun begins :)

Seriously, they plague internet forms like this trying to convince people they're far more advanced than reality shows. Even if they're caught jumping up and down like savages and flinging rocks or poo at people they make it into a victim story. Just wait because with the IMF basically telling Thaci he's stupid with money, Kosovo will economically collapse in a few months and I guarantee you they'll blame it on Serbia.

LOL Real silly people who get real angry when someone doesn't believe their Hoxha fairytales :)

@Agim
could you just refrain from making comments like that, your stories dont suddenly make this latest example of Albanian terrorism any less important. Its as if by making such statements that everyone forgets this article and starts giving sympathy to the Albanian people, perhaps you would care to comment on this case instead of avoiding it and pretending it didnt happen. And please, if you want to turn this into point scoring about which side has committed more crimes, well theres no point, the Albanians have already won that contest.

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)

And? That doesn't justify stoning a f***ing bus just because it has Serbs sitting in it.

So I hope this can help you understand the way this woman was brought to go in street and through a rock at a bus.
(Engineer, 12 June 2011 20:46)

Much better explanation than what the rest did. Unfortunately the comparison with Germans is not correct. Unlike the WW-II this conflict is several centuries old and unlike the WW-II here no side can claim to be the only victim.

May I remind you of burning the body of Sv. Sava by Sinan Pasha and what stones Albanians used to build the Sinan Pasha mosque in Prizren.

Besides the buildings and relicts of saints there were thousands of innocent Serbs killed over centuries. At one point in the begin of 20th Century things got reversed and Albanians begun to receive the "payback".

The "payback" was reversed during the WW-II again and again in the decade of 1989-1999.

Time to stop throwing rocks, I think.

Seriously, they plague internet forms like this trying to convince people they're far more advanced than reality shows. Even if they're caught jumping up and down like savages and flinging rocks or poo at people they make it into a victim story. Just wait because with the IMF basically telling Thaci he's stupid with money, Kosovo will economically collapse in a few months and I guarantee you they'll blame it on Serbia.

LOL Real silly people who get real angry when someone doesn't believe their Hoxha fairytales :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 12 June 2011 22:27)

You have just perfectly explained the serb mentality. Especially with that feeling more important than they really are, is a perfect serbian feeling.

I could care less about property of murders, rapists, and racists. Serbs lost all moral and legal rights to Kosovo after 1999. My 2 story flat and the boutique were all torched to the ground by your paramilitaries....the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks.



Thanks,

59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them.
(Agim Kelmendi, 12 June 2011 11:54)


Well said Agim.

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)

Unless the people sitting in the bus were responsible for the unfortunate and tragic disappearance of her children, she has no reason to stone the bus. Using that as justification implies that people in the Balkans should permanently be engaged in vengeful bickering between themselves over family tragedies. Civilised people don't act that way, I'm sorry.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks, but can't handle criticism.
Is the above mentioned by the way some kind of ritual you perform in your churches?
(Iznogoud, 13 June 2011 05:12)
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If you actually did think your lot would not be seen in the light they are seen everywhere.
As far as a ritual in a church is concerned, it is only your lot again which practice this.
Find a church and use it as a toilet. Wow, so classy.

Obviously these Serbs were hardened war criminals from the 1990s. It's a good thing these two Albos were there to defend their town from a full-scale military assault. No doubt they will now be honored as UCK military veterans complete with gaudy statues and a big wet kiss from Thaci.

At least they weren't feral enough to throw their own poop :) Such a funny bunch of people they are.

"59 year old lady has two missing sons , which were taken to Serbia, only to never hear again from them."

Agim Kelmendi

Damn, you have an answer for everything. To bad it isn't true. If it was you would provide a link but just like every time albanians at this forum make a claim it is without proof.

Ataman, from your replies occasional, obviously you're a virtual agent that protects a unilateral matter and anti Albanian. You are very contradictory in your appearances, you try to make wrong interpretations of history by contributing to a hatred between Serbs and Albanians.
On the one hand you tell us how Albanians are responsible for all evils that have happened to the Serbs and on the other side you never accept that we existed before 50 or 100 years earlier. Please enough. Serbian doctrine since the 19th century to solve the Kosovo problem was to assimilate everything Albanian that exists with the barbaric means.
Albanians have never done a national program on how to solve the problem with the Serbs. While Serbia has made three memos state how it is legitimate to kill and to despise an Albanian, covering this barbarism with false myth of the Battle of Kosovo. Remember good in your head, that Albanians are indigenous nation here, and Serbs are newcomers in these territories. Although from Albanians had been taken more ground in the early Middle Ages, they are not nation who die.
Serbian theses for their history and history of the Albanians are the thrills without any scientific basis or document of the time. According to the Serbian logic of "historical rights" now Serbia will need to govern by Turkey.
Medieval Orthodox churches located in Kosovo (in Gracanica, Leviska in Prizren, Patriarchate in Peja, Church of Devic in Drenica) are not evidence of Serbian culture, because they are built before their arrival in these regions.
Later the church of Decani was designed and supervised construction project by Albanian Catholic priest Vita Kuçi from Kotor.
These explains very good the Serbian scientist Pero Slijepcevic who has published his study at 1934 on old Orthodox churches-monasteries where he says that these churches are not acts of Serbian rulers, whose name have them.
Nemanjics have financed far from the borders of their state in order to affirm their dynasty.
( Pero Slijepceviq; Stare Srpske zaduzhbine, ogledi, pages 92-122, Belgrade 1934)

Now maybee serbs like 'Top' won't jump into conclusion and call this poor 59 year old women an ''animal''. The animnals are those who took her children away from her.....
(Demi, 12 June 2011 14:12)

You think that fact justifies her actions, to throw stones at a bus with Serbs who want to visit a cemetary? Interesting, but well, obviously, that's the Kosovo Albanian way of a justice system: An eye for an eye. Hmm, in fact, it's not even that, more like feudal blood revenge. Wake up, Demi, I though you want to adapt to European standards?

Put a mirror or two in a Serbia church and see how you look when you are on a toilet. Now that would be self reflection.
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks, but can't handle criticism.
Is the above mentioned by the way some kind of ritual you perform in your churches?

okay, Demi, at least you have the guts to condemn albanian crimes against serb civilians. but what do you do about it, actually?

why are you speaking of "tens of thousands of albanian victims", when the UN have made quite clear that the number of victims of the civilwar inside Serbia in 1998 and ß 99 is a lot smaller, and is made up by a serbian half and a quite similarly big albanian half.

so, why are you posting propaganda here, when it is commonly known that there were no "tens of thousands of albanian victims"?

on the one hand you write that you condemn all crimes against innocent civilians, but on the ohter hand you, even in the same comment, you go on with propaganda!

why?

are you being forced to do so? I ask because, even you MUST know by now, that the real number of victims is much smaller. so there must be a reason for you behaviour in here...

I condemn every crime against albanian civilians too, of course. but that makes no difference in my opinion that the illegal landgrab is just and simple theft. usurpation. nothing else. and those who commit these albanian crimes, will not get away with that.

Agim, don´t you realize that you are not capable of condemning albanian crimes at all?
(Jovan, 12 June 2011 14:02)

As one honorable member of "Team Kosova" explained to us once:

Kosovo is the only world's country without crime. Period. There is nothing to condemn because there is no Albanian crime. Case closed.

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Gjakmarrja, Albanian primitive Kunan honor killing, is at play here. Albanians cannot exist without revenge. And that revenge is now directed at all Serbs, because or Serb para-military, and military actions against KLA Albanians, and some civilians, during Kosovo's civil war. It will take generations, maybe, to bring these people into the 21st century.
(progresso, 12 June 2011 15:52)

It is enough if you VERBALLY contest their honor based on their postings. You will get REAL threats.
See here:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=74861

In detail:

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4849/picture26.jpg

As far as 21st century:

a) at the time they will be there, the actual century will be at the "31" mark.
b) who tries to bring them there will be exposed to their collective hate.

To the defense of Albanians in general: in the reality I am talking about probably 10, maximum 15 hard-core people... most not even living in the area. I can safely say that I did not see more bigot, stupid, humorless, mean-spirited people in my life than this gang.

Good example is a certain regular Albanian who is living in the States. I asked on his blog: "why don't you promote Kosovo positively, for more tourism? Putting down Serbia puts you down, too". His answer: "it's not time now for that". These people here dedicated them self to the destruction. No matter, what - you can't change their mindset.

"Jovan crimes against serbs were done by indivduals and not Kosovo or some kind of structures of Kosovo. Not even the KLA but ony individuals. We ordinary people cannot be represented by those who did crimes against serbs because we dident elect those as our representatives. We the people of Kosovo cannot apology for criminals behavour." (Demi)

-- If that were the case here, then the two people throwing stones should be bused to the heart of Belgrade and allowed to throw stones at the Skupstina to their heart's content. Or better yet, drive them to Pozarevac where they can hurl stones and insults at Milosevic's grave. But throwing stones at innocent Serbs citizens on their way to visit the graves of their own loved ones - basically Serbs minding their own business and had nothing to do with whatever case of missing persons that may or may not be true - makes the problem only perpetuate. If you condemn attacks against ordinary Serbs but still understand why they occured you're still looking for justification of your own side's actions and basically conclude that any and all Serbs are representative of a group of criminals that are now largely dead or incarcerated.

LOL Real silly people who get real angry when someone doesn't believe their Hoxha fairytales :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 12 June 2011 22:27)

ROFL -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PENLsc-jDt8

Later the same singer changed his mind...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2XDLNy9xyU

don't worry... if the wind blows he will sing this one with pleasure. Such people know where the wind is blowing from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEmPaTc589M

At least, that eagle has two head, too ;-)

TUNG!

You have just perfectly explained the serb mentality. Especially with that feeling more important than they really are, is a perfect serbian feeling.
(Simpatiku, 13 June 2011 01:33)

Who cares about Serbs? I'm talking about you silly people that pass yourselves off as strong and intelligent all over the internet when all we hear on the news about you is stuff from a Borat film LOL :)

"Propaganda here is at play. B92 wasn't there to comment on those people why they were throwing rocks? At least Albanian dailies (Koha Ditore, Kosova Sot, etc) did some investigative reporting on the matter.

It's a shame that I'm actually not in Gjakove to have helped this group throw rocks at the buses. I would love to send my faleminderit to people who call us "KLA terrorists", "animals", etc.

Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 June 2011 11:42)"

Well, throwing rocks (not mere pebbles or sand, mind you) at other people's property is a crime regardless of the reasons behind it. Or don't you understand this simple fact as evidenced by your base desire to throw some rocks of your own?

I'm talking about you silly people that pass yourselves off as strong and intelligent all over the internet when all we hear on the news about you is stuff from a Borat film LOL :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 13 June 2011 17:31)

This is insulting Borat, sorry. Here is a good example of Albanian truth - from the same guy who is obsessed with Arif Vladi, the heroic singer of Enver Hoxha

http://www.youtube.com/user/ILLYRICUMSACRUM

Comments:

"Serbabians before was a turkish bitches when their king car Lasar alied with Sulltan "

This is Albanian truth, the truth of all truths. Shame on you if you contest it. Tsar Lazar was sultan's poodle. Period. Proven in all books all around the world. Who has doubts is a Russian spy working for Milosheviqi.

This is what happens when you promote the dangerous concept of collective guilt.

We albanians never came to Serbia to take your village and destroy your people because we are a people with high moral.
(Demi, 13 June 2011 18:32)

The best post of the century. High-five. Mr. demiclown - are you being paid by your "Prishtina" UÇK-crook circus for that comedy performance?

"I could care less about property of murders, rapists, and racists. Serbs lost all moral and legal rights to Kosovo after 1999. My 2 story flat and the boutique were all torched to the ground by your paramilitaries....the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks.


Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 June 2011 19:30)"

From the contents of your post, you were obviously referring to me. What is this "the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks" hysteria emitting from you? DidI say that I'm a Serb or even in the Balklans?

As for Serbs losing "all moral and legal rights to Kosovo", perhaps you better check with your new masters in the West first. They definitely would disagree with you (since they still cling on to this absurd fantasy of a multiethnic Kosovo paradise) and you guys can't afford to offend them in case they drop you like a hot potato!

And don't expect me to feel sorry for someone like you who just reeks of vengence and wanna throw rocks at others. To me that is just plain wrong!

perhaps in the future you will care more for serb property, since times will change. and you will have to adjust yourself to the new situation, once the time has come.

just a week ago or so, I wrote about Germany´s decision to phase out nuclear engergy plants, and I wrote about it as a start-signal for a new europe. because, renewable energies need to be organized in the future, and I am quite sure that this move will have further consequences in the relations of Germany towards Russia, as the main supplier for natural gas. and guess what? just a few minutes ago I read about the Italians having voted notably clear against nuclear energy too! not only a slap for Mr.Berlusconi but also a signal of far reaching importance in regard to european energy-politics in the future.

I think the rest.. I leave it to you. you may go on dreaming about being the descendant of the illyrians and similar nonsense, while the world around you is changing...

oh, I am sorry for your store, that´s something very bad, althoug I ask myself why you do not blame the KLA-terrorist who started the mess at all, but, in the end, you are alive and healthy, and I presume you are young enough to pick the work up again, if you are not too busy with stoning innocent civilians.

What's the old ladies name? I think the Albanians here are lying and making up stuff as usual.
Many Serbs were kidnapped and killed by the Albanians and it was the KLA which initiated the violence and even killed fellow Albanians who didn't join with them.
Albanians tactic was to draw the international community and NATO in so they provoked and provoked and provoked in order to get a crack down so they could point to it and call for NATO help.
They used terrorism and are rewarded for it by getting Kosovo.

These acts of stoning are just to prevent Serbs from coming back to their homes and property.
Albanians have stolen so much property from Kosovo Serbs and the Serbian state.

@Demi:

how, for the heck of it, how do you know that exactly those people in that particular bus, that THEY voted for Milosevic?

don´t you see that this is ridiculous, actually?

@the other side of reality:

you really seem to live in just another side of reality! not only are you misinterpreting books that you are quoting, or at least mentioning, no you are also falling for the illyrian myth.

you are just and simply not the "indigenous" population of the balkans, this is simply an invention of yours. I have so many times asked for some proof, but all you Albanians are bringing up is some outdated sources like the encyclopedia britannica from over hundred years ago, or the literary pursuit of german writers and poets of the socalled "german romance"...

historians on the other side, say something completely different. and you don´t even have to be a scientist to see what is the simple truth...

there are no artifacts, no literary mentionings, no albanian indicator whatsoever, but you stubbornly hold up that myth as if there is nothing you´ve got instead.

in contrast to that, there are countless artifacts, documents, even from the ottoman-turkish occupiers, the toponomy, showing that KiM is serbian since the first nationstates emerged in europe, and before that, there were the illyrians, who you do not have anything to do with.

you have not produced anything relevant for historic acounts, you even took over some illyrian words and names, ..but the gypsies have done that too, they took a lot of language and idioms from other cultures like the armenian or persian one. and so did you with illyrian language. but that does not say that you are the descendants of the illyrians at all.

but, as you have rightfully chosen your nick-name here, you are really stuck in another reality, uncapable to leave your dark cave of ignorance, ...since it is too beautiful to believe to be the "indigenous" people...

you are a sad person, actually.

by the way: isn´t it interesting that our dear k-albanian friends are not getting tired of coming up with new nick-names, but always write the same nonsense? could there be a pattern to that? =)

a few days ago, Theo K. , and now all of a sudden "another side of reality" ...what is your problem folks? why are you always changing your nick-names? why not thinking a little bit about your own ancestry? why not finally facing the truth?

indeed, some of you are really sad individuals.

My 2 story flat and the boutique were all torched to the ground by your paramilitaries....the least I could do is throw a rock at people like yourself who insult us with these "animal" remarks.



Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 June 2011 19:30)

If that is the case and if you telling the truth - all my condolences and good wishes to you in person. You should start with that story and not end with that. Did anyone repay you or you had to live with the damage?

BTW: you throw your hate at the wrong target and get only hate in exchange back. Every war has it's criminals and a civil war is even worse. While the criminals who damaged your property have to be punished - a chunk of responsibility is also on the total failure of the post-war reconciliation process.

Ataman, from your replies occasional, obviously you're a virtual agent that protects a unilateral matter and anti Albanian.
(the other side of reality, 13 June 2011 21:38)

I don't think that my person is that important.
Reading your clams I see quite a bit of contradiction.

Three biggest:

1) To build churches/monasteries like you mention you need a sponsor with serious money.
The first mention of Albanian sponsor who was capable doing that is the Muzaka family and their church in Kastoria. This is a good day and a half drive from Kosovo.

2) If these monuments with any connection to Albanian history - why do certain Albanian their best to destroy them?

3) These theories are almost exclusively of Albanian origin. As such, they are regarded as outside of mainstream. There is nothing wrong about being not a mainstream - but than you have the burden of proof.

Other contradictions in your writing include personal elements and in quite a few places simple things what I never said.

But at least thanks for using polite language. If you want further discussion and more I am open. In particular that I have genuine interest in these churches.

Thanks