"U.S. does not support Kosovo partition"

In the name of democracy.....Why would they support the partition?
Kosovo is a perfect example of Albanian drug money well spent.
When Mrs Clinton was running for office no other minority group
was even close to the Albanians in fund donations, for just
one campaign dinner event in New York she raised over 1 million dollars
thanks to her Albanian buddies....with all this money flowing into Clinton hands....one would be think Mr. C would at least not mix Montenegro with Macedonia which he did on his recent Montenegro trip...which just proves money doesn't buy brains!!!

Madam Ambassador I would begin to worry how your economy is going not whether Kosovo will be portioned. The latest economic data is showing that the “Great Recession” is continuing unabated – no one will use the word depression in case there is a bout of just that and the situation gets worse, but that is what is happening. The US housing market has fallen to a level not even seen during the 1930s Depression meanwhile we have mass firing of teachers, police, fireman etc this summer because the States cannot pay their salaries – the cupboard is bare and no amount of stimulus can bring this puppy back to life.
The Wall street Journal had an article about US housing, real unemployment and actual debt. The US debt will in less than 16 months be $17.2 trillion, but its unfunded liabilities are $72 trillion (pensions, Medicare etc). In fact the article said that this was the biggest ponzy schemes on this planet ready to blow up in “our faces”.
There is even talk of possibly issuing more bonds to try and stimulate the market, but I know that the only interested parties are US citizens and not the outside world. The game is over and it’s only a matter of time before the US starts to implode from debt.
Now Madam Ambassador, what does the US have to offer again? United States of Windbags.

"However, the U.S. does recognize Serbia's special interest and relations with the Serbs living in Kosovo, as well as in terms of the monasteries and cultural heritage there," she added.


There you have it. Better listen to Uncle Sam,or else!

There you have it. Better listen to Uncle Sam,or else!
(Kosova-USA, 6 June 2011 12:31)

Uncle Sam is too busy whizzing up the wall the last few dollars it has in Libya. Uncle Sam is finished - I wish people like you would buy the Wall Street Journal and read about your rich Uncle Sam or what's left of it.


Oh by the way I notice that the US does recognise Serbian history and culture in Kosovo but they don't seem to mention those great Illyrian building/ruins built by the Albanians. Funny you guys have lived there for thousands of years and not even a cave painting.
I had a lecturer that described people like the Albanians - he called them camp followers.

Actually most real Americans support a partition of America. More power to the sovereign states and less power to the occupation forces in Washington. Serbia should declare Texas to be independent and send an ambassador to Austin!

I notice so much anger and frustration in the Serb comments.

I'll bet you are pretty jealous about the Illirain/Albanian heritage.

A unique language, a unique & great history, own culture, ... the list is long.

On the other side you have you, the Serbs.

You are one of many Slav people, so many people (hundreds of million) speak the same language, a history that goes back to Russia, ...

Serbs are not unique, you are just one of many.

The Albanians on the other hand are.

And i think this is soo much upsetting you Serbs that only hatred comes out of your mouth and deeds, see the last Balkan war you started.

We (Illyrians/Albanians) are a unique because you can not find a 2nd people with the same roots as us.

;o)
Tung

Clearly - it is not settled.

I guess it's all or nothing. Seperation means only one side wins. Partition sets more a dangerous precedent because it means everybody loses: both the sides that are directly & indirectly involved in the dispute. Europe needs to go back to its Cold War borders bc they were the most stable. The USSR & SFRJ borders are better guarantors of stability than current ones

it´s a shame actually, but after all, he cannot be blamed for his lack of knowledge, this poor boy who calls himself tung or freedom or whatever..

the colors of the serbian flag are the traditional slavic colors, red, for the spilled blood, blue for the heaven or in other words christian belief ( these two colors are known to be used by serbian noblemen earlier than the russian tricolor had emerged at all), and ...

the third one, white ( or as actually intended: silver ) , stands for purity, but was added much later, when modern state-flags established as tricolor-flags and the russian tricolor-flag already existed. and so, the Serbs arranged it in a way that distinguishes it from the russian flag.
that´s it in brief about the serbian tricolor-flag.

claiming that the Serbs copied their flag from the russian one, is not only stupid, but also shows the lack of basic knowledge among the K-albanians about their "neighbours" who they lived with for centuries. or should I say for the lack of interest for their "neighbours", what would also only show how ignorant they are?

the albanian flag however, introduced and enforced by Skenderbeg, is a clear indication that Skenderbeg wanted to show his orientation towards the serb medieval state, that was the political and cultural center in south-eastern europe before the ottoman occupation, and as far as I remember it, he even married a serb princess.

but the mere fact, that this boy, "tung/freedom" is babbling about the serbian flag, shows that he has nothing to contribute to the article itself. quite poor, when you have to resort to half-truth and fabrications...

actually, a total fail.

Warlick reiterated that the U.S. believes the EU Rule of Law Mission in Kosovo - EULEX - was "perfectly capable of investigating those crimes"

Indeed, as this picture clearly shows, EULEX is already at hard work in Ohrid, investigating crimes.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3835/eulexy.jpg

Was shot last week, by the way (in Ohrid), just opposite of a fine hotel.

I guess, the traces did lead to Ohrid. Curious, who paid for the hotel, gas and was it a leisure visit or "on-duty".

----

Otherwise... don't blame the poor lady. She is doing her work. I had a very short and very brief glimpse what a diplomatic carrier does mean. A diplomat is between the rock and the hard place, smallest mistake means the end of the carrier. And there is a long-long list of things which aren't allowed, you will be shocked.

True, they are paid well. But it's a work rarely appreciated by third party or even in house. So please understand: this what she could say safely. And nothing, again, nothing what a diplomat tells should be taken at it's face value. Otherwise it's not a diplomat.

Serbs are not unique, you are just one of many.
The Albanians on the other hand are.
And i think this is soo much upsetting you Serbs that only hatred comes out of your mouth and deeds, see the last Balkan war you started.
We (Illyrians/Albanians) are a unique because you can not find a 2nd people with the same roots as us.
Tung
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 15:56)


Ah Freedom boy, it's obvious History wasn't your stength because if you pulled your "Illyrian" stuff at any respectable college/university (that does not include Tirana or Pristina) you would have failed. Making stuff up and thinking your special is what is going to doom you Albanians. Especially with your "best friends" the US bogged down in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya (not to mention our economy is tanking.... agian!). But I guess posting dribble like this makes you feel better because deep down it's better to be free than be economically sound. ;-)

"We (Illyrians/Albanians) are a unique because you can not find a 2nd people with the same roots as us. "
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 15:56)
Relly unique, indeed. In fact, there's no commonly accepted knowledge about the root of the Albanians. Maybe they were aliens from Mars? Besides that, as far as I know, Illyians are extinct ;-)

"As far as the U.S. is concerned, the status and the borders of Kosovo have been settled," said Warlick.

You, and your country, do not rule the world! If America's concerns governed the entire worl, the entire world would be under its thumb! The State Department is full of all kinds of whackos...precisely why I got out early and decided not to be a traitor to my kind.

US is chosen by God to lead this world.

Let me add to my previous comment.

Serbs haven't even got an own flag, they have copied that from Russia but put it in a different order.

To all the Serbs historians overhere:

But do you know where Russia has thier flag from?

Tung

T

Maybe they were aliens from Mars? Besides that, as far as I know, Illyians are extinct ;-)
(Top, 6 June 2011 19:48)
--
Albaliens?

Maybe they were aliens from Mars? Besides that, as far as I know, Illyians are extinct ;-)
(Top, 6 June 2011 19:48)

I concur Albanians are aliens from mars, the serbs have finally convinced me that Albanians are not Illyrian descendants.
Bravo i congratulate you on your fine dicovery which ends the mystery of Albanian origins.

@dikushi:

kiddo, ...while my excursion about the serbian flag was a reaction to the dumb statements of this clueless tungy-baby, ... what the heck has your alleged illyrian phantasy to do with Mrs.Mary Warlick´s statement, or the article at all???

seems like you k-albanians are stuck to a fairy-tale-la-la-world...

babbling about " genetic studies " ... oh my god. you seem to have real problems though.

Ataman wrote: “don't blame the poor lady… long list of things which aren't allowed… nothing what a diplomat tells should be taken at it's face value”. A-ha, nice impressions just by looking at the picture?!

who wants to learn more about the history of Albanians, let search with google "Origin of the Albanians"......!The origin of the Albanians has been for some time a matter of dispute among historians. Most historians conclude that the Albanians are descendants of populations of the prehistoric Balkans, such as the Illyrians, Dacians or Thracians.Little is known about these peoples, and they blended into one another in Thraco-Illyrian and Daco-Thracian contact zones even in antiquity.
The Albanians first appear in the historical record in Byzantine sources of the late 11th century. At this point, they were already fully Christianized. Very little evidence of pre-Christian Albanian culture survives, although Albanian mythology and folklore are of Paleo-Balkanic origin and almost all of their elements are pagan, in particular showing Greek influence.
Regarding the classification of the Albanian language, it forms a separate branch of Indo-European, first attested in the 15th century, apparently based on the wider Paleo-Balkans group of antiquity.
Studies in genetic anthropology show that the Albanians share the same ancestry as most other European peoples.
Various genetic studies have been done on the European population, some of them including current Albanian population, Albanian-speaking populations outside Albania, and the Balkan region as a whole.
One of the first studies was that of Belledi et al. (2000) which suggested that the Albanians share the same ancestry as most other European peoples. A recent study verifies this.
Looking at more recent studies specifically about Y chromosomal lineages, several of the most common lineages in the Balkans vary considerably between the Albanian region and other neighbouring regions[citation needed]. The two haplogroups most strongly associated with Albanian people (E-V13 and J2b) are often considered to have arrived in Europe from the Near East with the Neolithic revolution or late Mesolithic, early in the Holocene epoch. From here in the Balkans, it is thought, they spread to the rest of Europe.

isn´t this woman ashamed of herself?

"However, the U.S. does recognize Serbia's special interest and relations with the Serbs living in Kosovo, as well as in terms of the monasteries and cultural heritage there," she added.

oh, really? you know what, Mary? hit the road! WE do not care about what the USofA believes, it´s quite irrelevant. and also, WE will decide when OUR borders will be settled. don´t you ever forget that, little lady.

as far as I am concerned, I would have sent her home for this provocation.

EULEX has shown that it is not capable of any investigation that deserving that name at all. and given that the US are already on the decline, we will just watch how they lose authority from day to day, from year to year. and the day will come, when these figures will be laughed at.

what makes me wonder is how they even dare to show their arrogance so openly.

you should better go and see what you can do about Pakistan turning towards China,...little Mary. in Serbia you cannot achieve anything, I guess.

and of course, this american-propaganda-trash is being published by B92.

Tung
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 15:56)


What is there to hate because there is no evidence what so ever of your Albanian culture being around for thousands of years. But please let me know where I have gone wrong.

It’s more a legend in your own minds than anything else?


US is chosen by God to lead this world.
(ivan, 6 June 2011 17:26)


I’d like to see the piece of paper signed by God authorising the US to lead the world.

Let me add to my previous comment.

Serbs haven't even got an own flag, they have copied that from Russia but put it in a different order.

To all the Serbs historians overhere:

But do you know where Russia has thier flag from?

Tung

T
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 21:06)

Of course. The colors have the same origin as the ones America uses. Many other countries use them as well. It is a very common "Western" combination and got a widespread use after the French revolution.

Most Slavic countries adopted that combination after a congress at the end of the 19th Century.
But the original Serbian and/or Russian colors were quite different.

Examples: the face of Jesus on a red background; St. Andrew cross; a dragon; St. George slaying the beast; and some more.

Traditionally yellow or / and red with black double-headed eagle sounds Russian enough.
Somewhat like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_4_RHSxgdY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEmPaTc589M

The roots are of course from the East Roman Empire, very much like the modern Albanian flag.
The difference is that one was adopted by Skenderbeg as HIS OWN INCENTIVE, as a sign of BELONGING to East Roman Empire - while the tsar Ivan III did MARRY the East Roman princess and LEGALLY now Russia is the ONLY and ONLY successor of the East Roman Empire... and LEGALLY has all rights to claim everything from Jerusalem to Constantinoupolis (and the entire Balkan Peninsula, of course).

The reality on the ground is of course different, but if we are talking about medieval law practice... than you (as follower of Skenderbeg) have to report to East Roman Empire.

As the saying: there are three Romes and there won't be a fourth.

Enjoy the music - one day you may hear more of that, more than you maybe expect today ;-)

Ataman wrote: “don't blame the poor lady… long list of things which aren't allowed… nothing what a diplomat tells should be taken at it's face value”. A-ha, nice impressions just by looking at the picture?!
(Gyorgy, 6 June 2011 15:54)

No, please read the whole thing what I wrote. I am not a canary bird. In particular in such cases.

claiming that the Serbs copied their flag from the russian one, is not only stupid, but also shows the lack of basic knowledge among the K-albanians about their "neighbours" who they lived with for centuries. or should I say for the lack of interest for their "neighbours", what would also only show how ignorant they are?

the albanian flag however, introduced and enforced by Skenderbeg, is a clear indication that Skenderbeg wanted to show his orientation towards the serb medieval state, that was the political and cultural center in south-eastern europe before the ottoman occupation, and as far as I remember it, he even married a serb princess.



actually, a total fail.
(Jovan, 7 June 2011 11:42)


The flag, is of course a Byzantine Flag, depicting the roman empire and its two centers, one head turned west towards Rome, and the other turned east towards Constandinopole. Scanderbeg married Donika Arianiti from (Berat-Vlora region) south Albania. Her sister Angelina Arianiti, married the Serbian ruler Stefan Brankovic. She was proclaimed as a Saint by Serbian Orthodox Church, and is known today as Saint Angelina of Serbia, but indeed she is 100% Albanian. Got it Jovan??

And you are the one to speak of ignorance!

the albanian flag however, introduced and enforced by Skenderbeg, is a clear indication that Skenderbeg wanted to show his orientation towards the serb medieval state, that was the political and cultural center in south-eastern europe before the ottoman occupation, and as far as I remember it, he even married a serb princess.
______________



Correction: Skenderbeu oriented towards the papal states since serbia was an conquered ottoman vilayet. The two-headed eagle is originally a Byzantine symbol. They used different colors, gold, white ect... The black was used in times of war. All states using the two-headed eagle shows the influence of Byzantium.

"However, the U.S. does recognize Serbia's special interest and relations with the Serbs living in Kosovo, as well as in terms of the monasteries and cultural heritage there," she added.


There you have it. Better listen to Uncle Sam,or else!

In the name of democracy.....Why would they support the partition?
Kosovo is a perfect example of Albanian drug money well spent.
When Mrs Clinton was running for office no other minority group
was even close to the Albanians in fund donations, for just
one campaign dinner event in New York she raised over 1 million dollars
thanks to her Albanian buddies....with all this money flowing into Clinton hands....one would be think Mr. C would at least not mix Montenegro with Macedonia which he did on his recent Montenegro trip...which just proves money doesn't buy brains!!!

Madam Ambassador I would begin to worry how your economy is going not whether Kosovo will be portioned. The latest economic data is showing that the “Great Recession” is continuing unabated – no one will use the word depression in case there is a bout of just that and the situation gets worse, but that is what is happening. The US housing market has fallen to a level not even seen during the 1930s Depression meanwhile we have mass firing of teachers, police, fireman etc this summer because the States cannot pay their salaries – the cupboard is bare and no amount of stimulus can bring this puppy back to life.
The Wall street Journal had an article about US housing, real unemployment and actual debt. The US debt will in less than 16 months be $17.2 trillion, but its unfunded liabilities are $72 trillion (pensions, Medicare etc). In fact the article said that this was the biggest ponzy schemes on this planet ready to blow up in “our faces”.
There is even talk of possibly issuing more bonds to try and stimulate the market, but I know that the only interested parties are US citizens and not the outside world. The game is over and it’s only a matter of time before the US starts to implode from debt.
Now Madam Ambassador, what does the US have to offer again? United States of Windbags.

Clearly - it is not settled.

I guess it's all or nothing. Seperation means only one side wins. Partition sets more a dangerous precedent because it means everybody loses: both the sides that are directly & indirectly involved in the dispute. Europe needs to go back to its Cold War borders bc they were the most stable. The USSR & SFRJ borders are better guarantors of stability than current ones

Actually most real Americans support a partition of America. More power to the sovereign states and less power to the occupation forces in Washington. Serbia should declare Texas to be independent and send an ambassador to Austin!

Warlick reiterated that the U.S. believes the EU Rule of Law Mission in Kosovo - EULEX - was "perfectly capable of investigating those crimes"

Indeed, as this picture clearly shows, EULEX is already at hard work in Ohrid, investigating crimes.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3835/eulexy.jpg

Was shot last week, by the way (in Ohrid), just opposite of a fine hotel.

I guess, the traces did lead to Ohrid. Curious, who paid for the hotel, gas and was it a leisure visit or "on-duty".

----

Otherwise... don't blame the poor lady. She is doing her work. I had a very short and very brief glimpse what a diplomatic carrier does mean. A diplomat is between the rock and the hard place, smallest mistake means the end of the carrier. And there is a long-long list of things which aren't allowed, you will be shocked.

True, they are paid well. But it's a work rarely appreciated by third party or even in house. So please understand: this what she could say safely. And nothing, again, nothing what a diplomat tells should be taken at it's face value. Otherwise it's not a diplomat.

There you have it. Better listen to Uncle Sam,or else!
(Kosova-USA, 6 June 2011 12:31)

Uncle Sam is too busy whizzing up the wall the last few dollars it has in Libya. Uncle Sam is finished - I wish people like you would buy the Wall Street Journal and read about your rich Uncle Sam or what's left of it.


Oh by the way I notice that the US does recognise Serbian history and culture in Kosovo but they don't seem to mention those great Illyrian building/ruins built by the Albanians. Funny you guys have lived there for thousands of years and not even a cave painting.
I had a lecturer that described people like the Albanians - he called them camp followers.

I notice so much anger and frustration in the Serb comments.

I'll bet you are pretty jealous about the Illirain/Albanian heritage.

A unique language, a unique & great history, own culture, ... the list is long.

On the other side you have you, the Serbs.

You are one of many Slav people, so many people (hundreds of million) speak the same language, a history that goes back to Russia, ...

Serbs are not unique, you are just one of many.

The Albanians on the other hand are.

And i think this is soo much upsetting you Serbs that only hatred comes out of your mouth and deeds, see the last Balkan war you started.

We (Illyrians/Albanians) are a unique because you can not find a 2nd people with the same roots as us.

;o)
Tung

"We (Illyrians/Albanians) are a unique because you can not find a 2nd people with the same roots as us. "
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 15:56)
Relly unique, indeed. In fact, there's no commonly accepted knowledge about the root of the Albanians. Maybe they were aliens from Mars? Besides that, as far as I know, Illyians are extinct ;-)

US is chosen by God to lead this world.

Serbs are not unique, you are just one of many.
The Albanians on the other hand are.
And i think this is soo much upsetting you Serbs that only hatred comes out of your mouth and deeds, see the last Balkan war you started.
We (Illyrians/Albanians) are a unique because you can not find a 2nd people with the same roots as us.
Tung
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 15:56)


Ah Freedom boy, it's obvious History wasn't your stength because if you pulled your "Illyrian" stuff at any respectable college/university (that does not include Tirana or Pristina) you would have failed. Making stuff up and thinking your special is what is going to doom you Albanians. Especially with your "best friends" the US bogged down in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya (not to mention our economy is tanking.... agian!). But I guess posting dribble like this makes you feel better because deep down it's better to be free than be economically sound. ;-)

Let me add to my previous comment.

Serbs haven't even got an own flag, they have copied that from Russia but put it in a different order.

To all the Serbs historians overhere:

But do you know where Russia has thier flag from?

Tung

T
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 21:06)

Of course. The colors have the same origin as the ones America uses. Many other countries use them as well. It is a very common "Western" combination and got a widespread use after the French revolution.

Most Slavic countries adopted that combination after a congress at the end of the 19th Century.
But the original Serbian and/or Russian colors were quite different.

Examples: the face of Jesus on a red background; St. Andrew cross; a dragon; St. George slaying the beast; and some more.

Traditionally yellow or / and red with black double-headed eagle sounds Russian enough.
Somewhat like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_4_RHSxgdY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEmPaTc589M

The roots are of course from the East Roman Empire, very much like the modern Albanian flag.
The difference is that one was adopted by Skenderbeg as HIS OWN INCENTIVE, as a sign of BELONGING to East Roman Empire - while the tsar Ivan III did MARRY the East Roman princess and LEGALLY now Russia is the ONLY and ONLY successor of the East Roman Empire... and LEGALLY has all rights to claim everything from Jerusalem to Constantinoupolis (and the entire Balkan Peninsula, of course).

The reality on the ground is of course different, but if we are talking about medieval law practice... than you (as follower of Skenderbeg) have to report to East Roman Empire.

As the saying: there are three Romes and there won't be a fourth.

Enjoy the music - one day you may hear more of that, more than you maybe expect today ;-)

"As far as the U.S. is concerned, the status and the borders of Kosovo have been settled," said Warlick.

You, and your country, do not rule the world! If America's concerns governed the entire worl, the entire world would be under its thumb! The State Department is full of all kinds of whackos...precisely why I got out early and decided not to be a traitor to my kind.

it´s a shame actually, but after all, he cannot be blamed for his lack of knowledge, this poor boy who calls himself tung or freedom or whatever..

the colors of the serbian flag are the traditional slavic colors, red, for the spilled blood, blue for the heaven or in other words christian belief ( these two colors are known to be used by serbian noblemen earlier than the russian tricolor had emerged at all), and ...

the third one, white ( or as actually intended: silver ) , stands for purity, but was added much later, when modern state-flags established as tricolor-flags and the russian tricolor-flag already existed. and so, the Serbs arranged it in a way that distinguishes it from the russian flag.
that´s it in brief about the serbian tricolor-flag.

claiming that the Serbs copied their flag from the russian one, is not only stupid, but also shows the lack of basic knowledge among the K-albanians about their "neighbours" who they lived with for centuries. or should I say for the lack of interest for their "neighbours", what would also only show how ignorant they are?

the albanian flag however, introduced and enforced by Skenderbeg, is a clear indication that Skenderbeg wanted to show his orientation towards the serb medieval state, that was the political and cultural center in south-eastern europe before the ottoman occupation, and as far as I remember it, he even married a serb princess.

but the mere fact, that this boy, "tung/freedom" is babbling about the serbian flag, shows that he has nothing to contribute to the article itself. quite poor, when you have to resort to half-truth and fabrications...

actually, a total fail.

isn´t this woman ashamed of herself?

"However, the U.S. does recognize Serbia's special interest and relations with the Serbs living in Kosovo, as well as in terms of the monasteries and cultural heritage there," she added.

oh, really? you know what, Mary? hit the road! WE do not care about what the USofA believes, it´s quite irrelevant. and also, WE will decide when OUR borders will be settled. don´t you ever forget that, little lady.

as far as I am concerned, I would have sent her home for this provocation.

EULEX has shown that it is not capable of any investigation that deserving that name at all. and given that the US are already on the decline, we will just watch how they lose authority from day to day, from year to year. and the day will come, when these figures will be laughed at.

what makes me wonder is how they even dare to show their arrogance so openly.

you should better go and see what you can do about Pakistan turning towards China,...little Mary. in Serbia you cannot achieve anything, I guess.

and of course, this american-propaganda-trash is being published by B92.

Let me add to my previous comment.

Serbs haven't even got an own flag, they have copied that from Russia but put it in a different order.

To all the Serbs historians overhere:

But do you know where Russia has thier flag from?

Tung

T

who wants to learn more about the history of Albanians, let search with google "Origin of the Albanians"......!The origin of the Albanians has been for some time a matter of dispute among historians. Most historians conclude that the Albanians are descendants of populations of the prehistoric Balkans, such as the Illyrians, Dacians or Thracians.Little is known about these peoples, and they blended into one another in Thraco-Illyrian and Daco-Thracian contact zones even in antiquity.
The Albanians first appear in the historical record in Byzantine sources of the late 11th century. At this point, they were already fully Christianized. Very little evidence of pre-Christian Albanian culture survives, although Albanian mythology and folklore are of Paleo-Balkanic origin and almost all of their elements are pagan, in particular showing Greek influence.
Regarding the classification of the Albanian language, it forms a separate branch of Indo-European, first attested in the 15th century, apparently based on the wider Paleo-Balkans group of antiquity.
Studies in genetic anthropology show that the Albanians share the same ancestry as most other European peoples.
Various genetic studies have been done on the European population, some of them including current Albanian population, Albanian-speaking populations outside Albania, and the Balkan region as a whole.
One of the first studies was that of Belledi et al. (2000) which suggested that the Albanians share the same ancestry as most other European peoples. A recent study verifies this.
Looking at more recent studies specifically about Y chromosomal lineages, several of the most common lineages in the Balkans vary considerably between the Albanian region and other neighbouring regions[citation needed]. The two haplogroups most strongly associated with Albanian people (E-V13 and J2b) are often considered to have arrived in Europe from the Near East with the Neolithic revolution or late Mesolithic, early in the Holocene epoch. From here in the Balkans, it is thought, they spread to the rest of Europe.

Ataman wrote: “don't blame the poor lady… long list of things which aren't allowed… nothing what a diplomat tells should be taken at it's face value”. A-ha, nice impressions just by looking at the picture?!
(Gyorgy, 6 June 2011 15:54)

No, please read the whole thing what I wrote. I am not a canary bird. In particular in such cases.

Maybe they were aliens from Mars? Besides that, as far as I know, Illyians are extinct ;-)
(Top, 6 June 2011 19:48)
--
Albaliens?

Tung
(FREEDOM, 6 June 2011 15:56)


What is there to hate because there is no evidence what so ever of your Albanian culture being around for thousands of years. But please let me know where I have gone wrong.

It’s more a legend in your own minds than anything else?


US is chosen by God to lead this world.
(ivan, 6 June 2011 17:26)


I’d like to see the piece of paper signed by God authorising the US to lead the world.

Ataman wrote: “don't blame the poor lady… long list of things which aren't allowed… nothing what a diplomat tells should be taken at it's face value”. A-ha, nice impressions just by looking at the picture?!

Maybe they were aliens from Mars? Besides that, as far as I know, Illyians are extinct ;-)
(Top, 6 June 2011 19:48)

I concur Albanians are aliens from mars, the serbs have finally convinced me that Albanians are not Illyrian descendants.
Bravo i congratulate you on your fine dicovery which ends the mystery of Albanian origins.

@dikushi:

kiddo, ...while my excursion about the serbian flag was a reaction to the dumb statements of this clueless tungy-baby, ... what the heck has your alleged illyrian phantasy to do with Mrs.Mary Warlick´s statement, or the article at all???

seems like you k-albanians are stuck to a fairy-tale-la-la-world...

babbling about " genetic studies " ... oh my god. you seem to have real problems though.

the albanian flag however, introduced and enforced by Skenderbeg, is a clear indication that Skenderbeg wanted to show his orientation towards the serb medieval state, that was the political and cultural center in south-eastern europe before the ottoman occupation, and as far as I remember it, he even married a serb princess.
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Correction: Skenderbeu oriented towards the papal states since serbia was an conquered ottoman vilayet. The two-headed eagle is originally a Byzantine symbol. They used different colors, gold, white ect... The black was used in times of war. All states using the two-headed eagle shows the influence of Byzantium.

claiming that the Serbs copied their flag from the russian one, is not only stupid, but also shows the lack of basic knowledge among the K-albanians about their "neighbours" who they lived with for centuries. or should I say for the lack of interest for their "neighbours", what would also only show how ignorant they are?

the albanian flag however, introduced and enforced by Skenderbeg, is a clear indication that Skenderbeg wanted to show his orientation towards the serb medieval state, that was the political and cultural center in south-eastern europe before the ottoman occupation, and as far as I remember it, he even married a serb princess.



actually, a total fail.
(Jovan, 7 June 2011 11:42)


The flag, is of course a Byzantine Flag, depicting the roman empire and its two centers, one head turned west towards Rome, and the other turned east towards Constandinopole. Scanderbeg married Donika Arianiti from (Berat-Vlora region) south Albania. Her sister Angelina Arianiti, married the Serbian ruler Stefan Brankovic. She was proclaimed as a Saint by Serbian Orthodox Church, and is known today as Saint Angelina of Serbia, but indeed she is 100% Albanian. Got it Jovan??

And you are the one to speak of ignorance!