“The essence of my message is that the EU block is increasingly making it clear that Serbia needs to have good relations with its neighbors. Tadiq refusing to participate because of Kosovo's official(s) being there is childish. Refusing to participate because of Kosovo's president is actually an acknowledgement and validation to Kosovo's legitimacy in the world political arena.
Furthermore, the EU block is increasing becoming politically unwilling to allow Serbia into the union because the Serbo-Kosovo drama is indicative: Serbia is wanting to join the 27 EU strong, not the other way around. Today belgrade will refuse to recognize a potential candidate, tomorrow it will be Brussels laws for homosexuality, transgender, environment, corporations, etc. Serbia's poor attitude is reflecting negatively towards all its neighbors prospects (Balkans) of future membership.
@Padania
I'm following that closely...it's also going to be interesting to see the split of Sudan.....especially all the resources; this might be a cue for Quebec.
Thanks,
(KOSO, 31 May 2011 22:33)”
The EU only stipulated good neighborly relations – which does not amount to recognition of Kosovo’s UDI. Tadic’s refusal to attend was simply to reiterate that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo as a state. So far I have not read a single article about any EU country that called his refusal to attend as being contrary to the good neighbors condition.
I actually agree with you that the EU is probably not sincere about wanting to expand further whether for Serbia or the rest of the Balkans. And I actually never thought it was in Serbia’s best interests to join the EU and become a lackey to the major EU members in all but name.
in last week's elections the Lega Nord (which is supposed to promote the seccesionism of the North) lost votes in general and it lost several of its strongholds in Northern Italy. Seems that Lega Nord, together with Berlusconi is closing its cyclus. Doesn't seem exactly that "Padania's" restlessness for independence continues to grow. Anyone who is acquainted with Italian politics would explain you that "Padania" is a nonsense notion that ranges from the sheer populism to the typical "pagliacciata".
(Observer, 31 May 2011 19:59) "
As I just replied to that Gustave, I never claimed to be an expert in Italian politics. As an outside observer however, the fact that the northern league is able to remain in political office means they must have supporters byeond just a handful. Especially when the articles that I read seemed to support the view that many in the north wants to be free of Rome.
And there could well be reasons why the northern league lost the latest elections other than northern voters suddenly falling heads over heels in love with the south again -- for example, economic reasons, voter backlash over their alliance with Berlusconi (he's the one embroiled in the scandals with young women right?). Again, I'm merely giving an opinion formed by articles that I read -- if you are an Italian or expert about Italy, it would be good if you could establish your counter arguments with online proof which should be readily available at your end, assuming what you claimed is true.
Once again, you read wrong. Lega Nord's "leadership" is a crazy xenophobic bunch but that despite their wishes they could never secede. Its simply impossible, as they don't receive votes for that. FYI Umberto Bossi and a handful of other primitives already declared independence back in 1996. The 33 million of people on whose behalf he allegedly spoke of simply had a good laugh.
Also in the latest (may) administrative elections the North League suffered a heavy defeat, for ex losing everywhere in Piemonte and winning only Varese in the whole of Lombardy.
Not only you have no idea regarding the Balkans, now you show total ignorance about Italian matters too.
Lol
(Gustave, 31 May 2011 18:32)”
And where, pray tell, did I ever claimed to be an expert about Italy or the Balkans?????? I can’t possibly be as I am not from either area.
In my original post, I merely stated that I have read articles that suggested that there are people in north Italy who wanted to be independent of Rome. And I was able to back my words with actual articles. I have never claimed the articles to be accurate or inaccurate. If you dispute the contents of those articles, then by all means provide your views with supporting evidence – which you have failed to do so thus far.
It is YOU rather, who misinterpreted my words, deliberately or otherwise. If it was unintentional, I would suggest that you get your eyesight checked at the earliest opportunity before reading B92 articles again.
We read from our self-proclaimed wanna-be journalist bob-o from frisco these disgusting and really sick comments...
" whatever they believe in their so-called hearts....there needs to be a true denazification of the society, but there is not... there needs to be a true decontamination of the culture fr the 90s but there is not."
You are starting to sound like a real wack-job, get a life, dude!!
A modus vivendi is being worked out: Kosovo will be invited to - and attend - meetings in the countries that recognize it (US, The Twenty-Two, Japan, etc.) and will not be invited by Zimbabwe, Russia, Cuba, The Feckless Five ... This should simplify things, and prevent bad feelings.
Did everybody notice how the Poles and Slovaks handled things? During the first day, there were no flags anywhere, and the presidents were all represented by green bottles in front of their plates. And the papers (Serbian, not Slovak - they were busy with Parks and Palaces Weekend and the opening of the municipal swimming pools) could report with complete honesty that the Kosovo flag was nowhere in sight. No need to go into the absence of any flags at all, of course. On the second day, when Obama was present, there were flags for everybody. Obviously the Americans called the Poles and said that, since their guy didn't get to that part of the world very often, he might not be as recognizable as all the others, which would be embarrassing, and could they allow flags and symbols as a mark of hospitality?
And so both the Slovaks and the Kosovars went home happy. The Slovaks earned a favor in the future from Serbia, and the Kosovars got their pictures of the Blue-and-Gold up there with all the others. And nobody mistook Obama for the president of Montenegro (for example). Let us all give thanks for the diplomatic skills of the Poles. (Living between Germany and Russia, you develop a feel for this kind of thing, I imagine.)
Serbian President Boris Tadić will miss the June 2 celebrations in Rome to mark the 150th anniversary of the unification of Italy
-- inat inat inat
With our new President A.Jahjaga, Kosova is going forward, well done.
Italiano Albano forwardo.
Can someone answer the question what does Serbian representatives in IMF do in similar meetings, since as you know Kosova is also a member of IMF and World Bank. I guess when it comes to the money, nationalism goes out of the window, even one as hardcore as the serb one.
(miri, 31 May 2011 20:30)
Right you are Miri, Serbia has more personalities than Lady Gaga and all just as fake.
Ya northen Italy wants separation. It would not surprise me if Vojvodina one day amicable will follow suit. I mean honestly the people there (excluding Bosnian Serb the refuges Mladiq) are very different from the South of Serbia. They seem refined, different views, well spoken, do not like butchering people, and totally different from the Serbia south of Belgrade. Even looking most of them a mixed of Serb, Austrian, Kroat, Hungary anything ju kan think of.
So Vojvodina is next to separate, but this one amicably, not with an arms conflict.
It is actually sad my beloved football team Jugosallvia is no longer there. This used to really bring pride to all the people of the country when in the West. It had talented players.
I wouldn't exactly call the road to Rome as a road to any prosperity. Not when Padania's restlessness for independence continues to grow. As you yourself wrote, the north is the richer part of Italy.
(lowe, 31 May 2011 17:26)
The essence of my message is that the EU block is increasingly making it clear that Serbia needs to have good relations with its neighbors. Tadiq refusing to participate because of Kosovo's official(s) being there is childish. Refusing to participate because of Kosovo's president is actually an acknowledgement and validation to Kosovo's legitimacy in the world political arena.
Furthermore, the EU block is increasing becoming politically unwilling to allow Serbia into the union because the Serbo-Kosovo drama is indicative: Serbia is wanting to join the 27 EU strong, not the other way around. Today belgrade will refuse to recognize a potential candidate, tomorrow it will be Brussels laws for homosexuality, transgender, environment, corporations, etc. Serbia's poor attitude is reflecting negatively towards all its neighbors prospects (Balkans) of future membership.
@Padania
I'm following that closely...it's also going to be interesting to see the split of Sudan.....especially all the resources; this might be a cue for Quebec.
This means Tadic is about to arrest Goran Hadzic :)
(ivan, 31 May 2011 14:26) Not until Boris aka Borat and Goran make a deal. Goran wants to be in the Serb hall of heroic fame like Ratko and the other Serb criminal but in the real world known wide as the Serb wall of shame. A hefty life time pension for his criminal service from his criminal employer Serbia to keep his mouth shut. For Borat to arrange a visit for him a night with the ladies of the evening before good jail time. A Serbian president work is never done allays a Serbian criminal to serve.
Tadic doesn't belong in any western organized gatherings.This is Tadic's league:Putin,Lukashenko,Kim Jong Ill,Ahmedinajad,Chavez,Castro,Ghedafi,Mugabe,Bashir.
I think whenever a Serb official refuses to participate in a meeting because of K. we Albanians and Serbs alike agree.
Well done Mr. Tadic. Wish you more refusal to participate in the future.
Can someone answer the question what does Serbian representatives in IMF do in similar meetings, since as you know Kosova is also a member of IMF and World Bank. I guess when it comes to the money, nationalism goes out of the window, even one as hardcore as the serb one.
--He also told the news agency that he was disappointed that he would not be able to attend, and that the decision came "considering that the president of the so-called state of Kosovo was invited as well".--
So he sends mladic to the hague (stops harboring him) and then shouts: Let us in to the big boys (and girls) club!! but everything else remains the same, keep tormenting the people of kosova, keep propping up dodik and co. nothing really changes, because the hyper-nationalism is so ingrained, and nothing really challenges it. and tadic and the other politicians use it, promote it, whatever they believe in their so-called hearts.
there needs to be a true denazification of the society, but there is not. there needs to be a true decontamination of the culture fr the 90s but there is not. the real leaders, the people with insight, are stuck on the margins as the dissidents, and the "leaders" continue to promote the same ole milosevic crap.
i am glad, of course, that mladic is going to the hague. but if it's just viewed as one more "trick" to win intl approval, then it is worse than meaningless. tadic and co. can continue this path, and continue serbia's isolation, which is a lose-lose proposition for the common people. and that's the best we can do?
in last week's elections the Lega Nord (which is supposed to promote the seccesionism of the North) lost votes in general and it lost several of its strongholds in Northern Italy. Seems that Lega Nord, together with Berlusconi is closing its cyclus. Doesn't seem exactly that "Padania's" restlessness for independence continues to grow. Anyone who is acquainted with Italian politics would explain you that "Padania" is a nonsense notion that ranges from the sheer populism to the typical "pagliacciata".
Good move Tadic. Europe is dead tired towards the Albanians in Kosovo and you show once again that Kosovo always will be your province. Also, I think sending Mladic to Hague is perfect move. I know that for the general Serb, they want to clean up their past. But one thing is 100% totally clear. When it comes to Kosovo, Serbia and Serbs will never ever give up together with the vast majority of the world. Kosovo is a south Serbian province and it will stay so until the end of time if the Albanians want it or not. Thats totally clear.
Just as in Warsaw, Tadic's absence will not be missed. And you can be sure that he will get more opportunity to announce other boycotts. Earth, however, will keep on revolving.
Go ahead and keep inviting your albo drug dealers to your meetings. You have to pay for their expenses and the Serbs won't have to pay for clooney's expenses. I think the Russians should bypass italy for the South Stream.
"Italia with Berlusconi, North-South conflict and quite some percentage of the GDP by criminal organisation(s) - indeed an archetype country to guide politics of other countries"
Suddenly Italy, according to Serbs, is a rogue state while Romania and Slovakia seem to shine more. Unbelievable this kind of logic among Serbs.
"- Albania & Kosovo, one of the (if not the) most backward region in Europe, economical more or less not existent, associated with vendetta and criminal organisations - what can it contribute to economical europe and hence why should it be talked to at all?"
Because of this attitude you have in Balkans and elsewhere more enemies than friends. Could you mention two friendly countries around except Romania and half of Bosnia!!!!!
"- Catalonia and basque region - no separation allowed by European community here, so why on the balkan? Hence at least I can understand Tadic's motivation, as historically the Kosovo rather belongs to serbia then to albania"
The answer has been given 10 years ago but you time is stalled. Spanish army did not attack basques and killed or destroyed their properties while Serbia did all of these. That is why Europe allowed separation. For the moment being I would say that Kosovo belongs more to Albania than Serbia in case you prove otherwise.
Once again, you read wrong. Lega Nord's "leadership" is a crazy xenophobic bunch but that despite their wishes they could never secede. Its simply impossible, as they don't receive votes for that. FYI Umberto Bossi and a handful of other primitives already declared independence back in 1996. The 33 million of people on whose behalf he allegedly spoke of simply had a good laugh.
Also in the latest (may) administrative elections the North League suffered a heavy defeat, for ex losing everywhere in Piemonte and winning only Varese in the whole of Lombardy.
Not only you have no idea regarding the Balkans, now you show total ignorance about Italian matters too.
Mr Tadic! Don't worry, this meeting is only between drugsmuglers and human trafficers. They will disscuss future drugrutes accross the mediterranean and a stabilization of the drugtrade market. Berlusconi will also discuss with his albanian counterpart the visa liberation for young eastern european women who will travel from Albania/Kosovo to be absused in brothels across Italy. No hassle to get in to Italy for them. Italy has also promised to invest 1 million dollars in brand new kidnapping equipment for their albanian mafioso friends. Kidnaping is the nr 1 occupation in albanian areas. 3200 kidnappers per square mile, the highest in the world. More good news! A new Italian subsidised hospital is opening in Kukes, Albania, where organ harvesting will be conducted with high tech equipment and with experienced and certified neurosurgeons. Perhaps one day Serbia can be a member of this fine organization.
Just some thoughts after reading all those comments here:
- Italia with Berlusconi, North-South conflict and quite some percentage of the GDP by criminal organisation(s) - indeed an archetype country to guide politics of other countries
- Albania & Kosovo, one of the (if not the) most backward region in Europe, economical more or less not existent, associated with vendetta and criminal organisations - what can it contribute to economical europe and hence why should it be talked to at all?
- Catalonia and basque region - no separation allowed by European community here, so why on the balkan? Hence at least I can understand Tadic's motivation, as historically the Kosovo rather belongs to serbia then to albania
"@Article
With Serbia boycotting because of Kosovo's presence essentially Belgrade is sending the message that it can't overcome it's past demons in the road to prosperity.
Thanks,
(KOSO, 31 May 2011 16:20) "
I wouldn't exactly call the road to Rome as a road to any prosperity. Not when Padania's restlessness for independence continues to grow. As you yourself wrote, the north is the richer part of Italy.
lowe, your dead on right about Italy. The northern portion aka the rich want to succeed from the poor south. Keep on watching after S Sudan becomes independent here soon in July I expect a whole lot of other countries to reconsider their own borders. In my opinion there will be further fragmentations.
@Article
With Serbia boycotting because of Kosovo's presence essentially Belgrade is sending the message that it can't overcome it's past demons in the road to prosperity.
I am pretty sure that the Italians will not take lightly these offensive words. Serbia thinks it can afford a little more hisolation? It will get it. Good job giving the Italians a reason to slow down collaboration and EU support for Serbia! (maybe you don't want their investments and jobs after all..?)
Why o Why can we read in Russian History books that their ancestors came from behind the Carpathian mountains! meaning: The balkans!
On topic.
Its a good move of Tadic , Kosovo is Serbian and if some country's are not accepting that, its their problem and serbia shouldn't associate with country's who mean harm to Serbia....
Nice try Boris. Did your American advisers tell you to do this to show the public you're a 'patriot'? While at the same time you're sending Serbian citizens to their death to show trials run by NATO war criminals.
We can see right through your phony patriotism.
BTW, what do the Pristina Albanians have to offer at this summit?
(progressive, 31 May 2011 11:24)
Apparently as much if not more than Serbia, as when Serbia presents the challenge either them or us, the answer is always the same: They(Kosovo) are coming, if you don't wish to ok we will proceed without you.
All those wh greatly exaggerate the importance of Serbia in the European market better look at reality.
To date has any group succumbed to Serbian boycotts? Kind of like Nikolic's hunger strike, seen only as a self absorbed attempt to manipulate others that fails big time.
just keep up you work Mr Tadic ahahahh
Serbia wants to join Russian Federation. this is so funny the serbs whant to go back where they came from mather russian
sleep sleep sleep and never wake up...
There should be no concept that Serbia will change its policy on this. Tadic should make it clear to the world that Serbia will stand by its ownership and attempts to rule the province beyond autonomy within Serbia (in line with 1244) will not be allowed to exist comfortably.
Recognition is not an option, and cooperation should be limited only to that that benefits those who were not yet ethnically cleansed from Kosovo by the Albanians who are trying to take over that piece of Serbian territory.
Serbia takes too much blame for what happened in Kosovo - Albanians were credited with the term 'Ethnic Cleansing' first being applied to the Albanian Communist Party ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo long before Milosevic.
The boycott has nothing to do with inat, Brooklyn boy USA. It has to do with abiding with the Serbian constitution and UN resolutions. If some countries chose to ignore the UN, and the sovereignty of a member UN nation, that is their business. Bravo to Mr. Tadic for taking this line in the face of US/EU pressure. BTW, what do the Pristina Albanians have to offer at this summit?
According to the text "The president added that "clearly, Italy's institutions gave advantage to the presence of Kosovo's representatives at the event"."
It is pretty obvious that all EU countries that recognised Kosovo will give advantage to the presence of Kosovo's representatives at all events THAN Serbia 's representatives. And mind you there 22 countries our of 27.
So better get prepared for isolation, unless Serbia wants to join Russian Federation.
From Western perspective this is natural and nobody worries what Serbia would think.
Time for Serbia to reform and focus towards EU destiny. After arresting Mladic the main obstacle is Kosovo recognition.
He told Italy's ANSA news agency that the decision came because Kosovo's president, Atifeta Jahjaga, was invited.
WOW,cry me river Mr. Tadic. No one will miss you in Rome,Italy.
Is Serbia heading towards self isolation from the rest of the world? this is where INAT comes to dictate the future of a nation. I think some Serb politicians are still in deep sleep.
He told Italy's ANSA news agency that the decision came because Kosovo's president, Atifeta Jahjaga, was invited.
WOW,cry me river Mr. Tadic. No one will miss you in Rome,Italy.
Is Serbia heading towards self isolation from the rest of the world? this is where INAT comes to dictate the future of a nation. I think some Serb politicians are still in deep sleep.
According to the text "The president added that "clearly, Italy's institutions gave advantage to the presence of Kosovo's representatives at the event"."
It is pretty obvious that all EU countries that recognised Kosovo will give advantage to the presence of Kosovo's representatives at all events THAN Serbia 's representatives. And mind you there 22 countries our of 27.
So better get prepared for isolation, unless Serbia wants to join Russian Federation.
From Western perspective this is natural and nobody worries what Serbia would think.
Time for Serbia to reform and focus towards EU destiny. After arresting Mladic the main obstacle is Kosovo recognition.
Nice try Boris. Did your American advisers tell you to do this to show the public you're a 'patriot'? While at the same time you're sending Serbian citizens to their death to show trials run by NATO war criminals.
We can see right through your phony patriotism.
The boycott has nothing to do with inat, Brooklyn boy USA. It has to do with abiding with the Serbian constitution and UN resolutions. If some countries chose to ignore the UN, and the sovereignty of a member UN nation, that is their business. Bravo to Mr. Tadic for taking this line in the face of US/EU pressure. BTW, what do the Pristina Albanians have to offer at this summit?
Mr Tadic! Don't worry, this meeting is only between drugsmuglers and human trafficers. They will disscuss future drugrutes accross the mediterranean and a stabilization of the drugtrade market. Berlusconi will also discuss with his albanian counterpart the visa liberation for young eastern european women who will travel from Albania/Kosovo to be absused in brothels across Italy. No hassle to get in to Italy for them. Italy has also promised to invest 1 million dollars in brand new kidnapping equipment for their albanian mafioso friends. Kidnaping is the nr 1 occupation in albanian areas. 3200 kidnappers per square mile, the highest in the world. More good news! A new Italian subsidised hospital is opening in Kukes, Albania, where organ harvesting will be conducted with high tech equipment and with experienced and certified neurosurgeons. Perhaps one day Serbia can be a member of this fine organization.
There should be no concept that Serbia will change its policy on this. Tadic should make it clear to the world that Serbia will stand by its ownership and attempts to rule the province beyond autonomy within Serbia (in line with 1244) will not be allowed to exist comfortably.
Recognition is not an option, and cooperation should be limited only to that that benefits those who were not yet ethnically cleansed from Kosovo by the Albanians who are trying to take over that piece of Serbian territory.
Serbia takes too much blame for what happened in Kosovo - Albanians were credited with the term 'Ethnic Cleansing' first being applied to the Albanian Communist Party ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo long before Milosevic.
just keep up you work Mr Tadic ahahahh
Serbia wants to join Russian Federation. this is so funny the serbs whant to go back where they came from mather russian
sleep sleep sleep and never wake up...
I am pretty sure that the Italians will not take lightly these offensive words. Serbia thinks it can afford a little more hisolation? It will get it. Good job giving the Italians a reason to slow down collaboration and EU support for Serbia! (maybe you don't want their investments and jobs after all..?)
BTW, what do the Pristina Albanians have to offer at this summit?
(progressive, 31 May 2011 11:24)
Apparently as much if not more than Serbia, as when Serbia presents the challenge either them or us, the answer is always the same: They(Kosovo) are coming, if you don't wish to ok we will proceed without you.
All those wh greatly exaggerate the importance of Serbia in the European market better look at reality.
To date has any group succumbed to Serbian boycotts? Kind of like Nikolic's hunger strike, seen only as a self absorbed attempt to manipulate others that fails big time.
lowe, your dead on right about Italy. The northern portion aka the rich want to succeed from the poor south. Keep on watching after S Sudan becomes independent here soon in July I expect a whole lot of other countries to reconsider their own borders. In my opinion there will be further fragmentations.
@Article
With Serbia boycotting because of Kosovo's presence essentially Belgrade is sending the message that it can't overcome it's past demons in the road to prosperity.
Why o Why can we read in Russian History books that their ancestors came from behind the Carpathian mountains! meaning: The balkans!
On topic.
Its a good move of Tadic , Kosovo is Serbian and if some country's are not accepting that, its their problem and serbia shouldn't associate with country's who mean harm to Serbia....
I think whenever a Serb official refuses to participate in a meeting because of K. we Albanians and Serbs alike agree.
Well done Mr. Tadic. Wish you more refusal to participate in the future.
Can someone answer the question what does Serbian representatives in IMF do in similar meetings, since as you know Kosova is also a member of IMF and World Bank. I guess when it comes to the money, nationalism goes out of the window, even one as hardcore as the serb one.
Just as in Warsaw, Tadic's absence will not be missed. And you can be sure that he will get more opportunity to announce other boycotts. Earth, however, will keep on revolving.
--He also told the news agency that he was disappointed that he would not be able to attend, and that the decision came "considering that the president of the so-called state of Kosovo was invited as well".--
So he sends mladic to the hague (stops harboring him) and then shouts: Let us in to the big boys (and girls) club!! but everything else remains the same, keep tormenting the people of kosova, keep propping up dodik and co. nothing really changes, because the hyper-nationalism is so ingrained, and nothing really challenges it. and tadic and the other politicians use it, promote it, whatever they believe in their so-called hearts.
there needs to be a true denazification of the society, but there is not. there needs to be a true decontamination of the culture fr the 90s but there is not. the real leaders, the people with insight, are stuck on the margins as the dissidents, and the "leaders" continue to promote the same ole milosevic crap.
i am glad, of course, that mladic is going to the hague. but if it's just viewed as one more "trick" to win intl approval, then it is worse than meaningless. tadic and co. can continue this path, and continue serbia's isolation, which is a lose-lose proposition for the common people. and that's the best we can do?
Tadic doesn't belong in any western organized gatherings.This is Tadic's league:Putin,Lukashenko,Kim Jong Ill,Ahmedinajad,Chavez,Castro,Ghedafi,Mugabe,Bashir.
Just some thoughts after reading all those comments here:
- Italia with Berlusconi, North-South conflict and quite some percentage of the GDP by criminal organisation(s) - indeed an archetype country to guide politics of other countries
- Albania & Kosovo, one of the (if not the) most backward region in Europe, economical more or less not existent, associated with vendetta and criminal organisations - what can it contribute to economical europe and hence why should it be talked to at all?
- Catalonia and basque region - no separation allowed by European community here, so why on the balkan? Hence at least I can understand Tadic's motivation, as historically the Kosovo rather belongs to serbia then to albania
"@Article
With Serbia boycotting because of Kosovo's presence essentially Belgrade is sending the message that it can't overcome it's past demons in the road to prosperity.
Thanks,
(KOSO, 31 May 2011 16:20) "
I wouldn't exactly call the road to Rome as a road to any prosperity. Not when Padania's restlessness for independence continues to grow. As you yourself wrote, the north is the richer part of Italy.
This means Tadic is about to arrest Goran Hadzic :)
(ivan, 31 May 2011 14:26) Not until Boris aka Borat and Goran make a deal. Goran wants to be in the Serb hall of heroic fame like Ratko and the other Serb criminal but in the real world known wide as the Serb wall of shame. A hefty life time pension for his criminal service from his criminal employer Serbia to keep his mouth shut. For Borat to arrange a visit for him a night with the ladies of the evening before good jail time. A Serbian president work is never done allays a Serbian criminal to serve.
We read from our self-proclaimed wanna-be journalist bob-o from frisco these disgusting and really sick comments...
" whatever they believe in their so-called hearts....there needs to be a true denazification of the society, but there is not... there needs to be a true decontamination of the culture fr the 90s but there is not."
You are starting to sound like a real wack-job, get a life, dude!!
I wouldn't exactly call the road to Rome as a road to any prosperity. Not when Padania's restlessness for independence continues to grow. As you yourself wrote, the north is the richer part of Italy.
(lowe, 31 May 2011 17:26)
The essence of my message is that the EU block is increasingly making it clear that Serbia needs to have good relations with its neighbors. Tadiq refusing to participate because of Kosovo's official(s) being there is childish. Refusing to participate because of Kosovo's president is actually an acknowledgement and validation to Kosovo's legitimacy in the world political arena.
Furthermore, the EU block is increasing becoming politically unwilling to allow Serbia into the union because the Serbo-Kosovo drama is indicative: Serbia is wanting to join the 27 EU strong, not the other way around. Today belgrade will refuse to recognize a potential candidate, tomorrow it will be Brussels laws for homosexuality, transgender, environment, corporations, etc. Serbia's poor attitude is reflecting negatively towards all its neighbors prospects (Balkans) of future membership.
@Padania
I'm following that closely...it's also going to be interesting to see the split of Sudan.....especially all the resources; this might be a cue for Quebec.
Good move Tadic. Europe is dead tired towards the Albanians in Kosovo and you show once again that Kosovo always will be your province. Also, I think sending Mladic to Hague is perfect move. I know that for the general Serb, they want to clean up their past. But one thing is 100% totally clear. When it comes to Kosovo, Serbia and Serbs will never ever give up together with the vast majority of the world. Kosovo is a south Serbian province and it will stay so until the end of time if the Albanians want it or not. Thats totally clear.
Ya northen Italy wants separation. It would not surprise me if Vojvodina one day amicable will follow suit. I mean honestly the people there (excluding Bosnian Serb the refuges Mladiq) are very different from the South of Serbia. They seem refined, different views, well spoken, do not like butchering people, and totally different from the Serbia south of Belgrade. Even looking most of them a mixed of Serb, Austrian, Kroat, Hungary anything ju kan think of.
So Vojvodina is next to separate, but this one amicably, not with an arms conflict.
It is actually sad my beloved football team Jugosallvia is no longer there. This used to really bring pride to all the people of the country when in the West. It had talented players.
"Italia with Berlusconi, North-South conflict and quite some percentage of the GDP by criminal organisation(s) - indeed an archetype country to guide politics of other countries"
Suddenly Italy, according to Serbs, is a rogue state while Romania and Slovakia seem to shine more. Unbelievable this kind of logic among Serbs.
"- Albania & Kosovo, one of the (if not the) most backward region in Europe, economical more or less not existent, associated with vendetta and criminal organisations - what can it contribute to economical europe and hence why should it be talked to at all?"
Because of this attitude you have in Balkans and elsewhere more enemies than friends. Could you mention two friendly countries around except Romania and half of Bosnia!!!!!
"- Catalonia and basque region - no separation allowed by European community here, so why on the balkan? Hence at least I can understand Tadic's motivation, as historically the Kosovo rather belongs to serbia then to albania"
The answer has been given 10 years ago but you time is stalled. Spanish army did not attack basques and killed or destroyed their properties while Serbia did all of these. That is why Europe allowed separation. For the moment being I would say that Kosovo belongs more to Albania than Serbia in case you prove otherwise.
Can someone answer the question what does Serbian representatives in IMF do in similar meetings, since as you know Kosova is also a member of IMF and World Bank. I guess when it comes to the money, nationalism goes out of the window, even one as hardcore as the serb one.
(miri, 31 May 2011 20:30)
Right you are Miri, Serbia has more personalities than Lady Gaga and all just as fake.
A modus vivendi is being worked out: Kosovo will be invited to - and attend - meetings in the countries that recognize it (US, The Twenty-Two, Japan, etc.) and will not be invited by Zimbabwe, Russia, Cuba, The Feckless Five ... This should simplify things, and prevent bad feelings.
Did everybody notice how the Poles and Slovaks handled things? During the first day, there were no flags anywhere, and the presidents were all represented by green bottles in front of their plates. And the papers (Serbian, not Slovak - they were busy with Parks and Palaces Weekend and the opening of the municipal swimming pools) could report with complete honesty that the Kosovo flag was nowhere in sight. No need to go into the absence of any flags at all, of course. On the second day, when Obama was present, there were flags for everybody. Obviously the Americans called the Poles and said that, since their guy didn't get to that part of the world very often, he might not be as recognizable as all the others, which would be embarrassing, and could they allow flags and symbols as a mark of hospitality?
And so both the Slovaks and the Kosovars went home happy. The Slovaks earned a favor in the future from Serbia, and the Kosovars got their pictures of the Blue-and-Gold up there with all the others. And nobody mistook Obama for the president of Montenegro (for example). Let us all give thanks for the diplomatic skills of the Poles. (Living between Germany and Russia, you develop a feel for this kind of thing, I imagine.)
in last week's elections the Lega Nord (which is supposed to promote the seccesionism of the North) lost votes in general and it lost several of its strongholds in Northern Italy. Seems that Lega Nord, together with Berlusconi is closing its cyclus. Doesn't seem exactly that "Padania's" restlessness for independence continues to grow. Anyone who is acquainted with Italian politics would explain you that "Padania" is a nonsense notion that ranges from the sheer populism to the typical "pagliacciata".
Once again, you read wrong. Lega Nord's "leadership" is a crazy xenophobic bunch but that despite their wishes they could never secede. Its simply impossible, as they don't receive votes for that. FYI Umberto Bossi and a handful of other primitives already declared independence back in 1996. The 33 million of people on whose behalf he allegedly spoke of simply had a good laugh.
Also in the latest (may) administrative elections the North League suffered a heavy defeat, for ex losing everywhere in Piemonte and winning only Varese in the whole of Lombardy.
Not only you have no idea regarding the Balkans, now you show total ignorance about Italian matters too.
Go ahead and keep inviting your albo drug dealers to your meetings. You have to pay for their expenses and the Serbs won't have to pay for clooney's expenses. I think the Russians should bypass italy for the South Stream.
Serbian President Boris Tadić will miss the June 2 celebrations in Rome to mark the 150th anniversary of the unification of Italy
-- inat inat inat
With our new President A.Jahjaga, Kosova is going forward, well done.
Italiano Albano forwardo.
Once again, you read wrong. Lega Nord's "leadership" is a crazy xenophobic bunch but that despite their wishes they could never secede. Its simply impossible, as they don't receive votes for that. FYI Umberto Bossi and a handful of other primitives already declared independence back in 1996. The 33 million of people on whose behalf he allegedly spoke of simply had a good laugh.
Also in the latest (may) administrative elections the North League suffered a heavy defeat, for ex losing everywhere in Piemonte and winning only Varese in the whole of Lombardy.
Not only you have no idea regarding the Balkans, now you show total ignorance about Italian matters too.
Lol
(Gustave, 31 May 2011 18:32)”
And where, pray tell, did I ever claimed to be an expert about Italy or the Balkans?????? I can’t possibly be as I am not from either area.
In my original post, I merely stated that I have read articles that suggested that there are people in north Italy who wanted to be independent of Rome. And I was able to back my words with actual articles. I have never claimed the articles to be accurate or inaccurate. If you dispute the contents of those articles, then by all means provide your views with supporting evidence – which you have failed to do so thus far.
It is YOU rather, who misinterpreted my words, deliberately or otherwise. If it was unintentional, I would suggest that you get your eyesight checked at the earliest opportunity before reading B92 articles again.
in last week's elections the Lega Nord (which is supposed to promote the seccesionism of the North) lost votes in general and it lost several of its strongholds in Northern Italy. Seems that Lega Nord, together with Berlusconi is closing its cyclus. Doesn't seem exactly that "Padania's" restlessness for independence continues to grow. Anyone who is acquainted with Italian politics would explain you that "Padania" is a nonsense notion that ranges from the sheer populism to the typical "pagliacciata".
(Observer, 31 May 2011 19:59) "
As I just replied to that Gustave, I never claimed to be an expert in Italian politics. As an outside observer however, the fact that the northern league is able to remain in political office means they must have supporters byeond just a handful. Especially when the articles that I read seemed to support the view that many in the north wants to be free of Rome.
And there could well be reasons why the northern league lost the latest elections other than northern voters suddenly falling heads over heels in love with the south again -- for example, economic reasons, voter backlash over their alliance with Berlusconi (he's the one embroiled in the scandals with young women right?). Again, I'm merely giving an opinion formed by articles that I read -- if you are an Italian or expert about Italy, it would be good if you could establish your counter arguments with online proof which should be readily available at your end, assuming what you claimed is true.
“The essence of my message is that the EU block is increasingly making it clear that Serbia needs to have good relations with its neighbors. Tadiq refusing to participate because of Kosovo's official(s) being there is childish. Refusing to participate because of Kosovo's president is actually an acknowledgement and validation to Kosovo's legitimacy in the world political arena.
Furthermore, the EU block is increasing becoming politically unwilling to allow Serbia into the union because the Serbo-Kosovo drama is indicative: Serbia is wanting to join the 27 EU strong, not the other way around. Today belgrade will refuse to recognize a potential candidate, tomorrow it will be Brussels laws for homosexuality, transgender, environment, corporations, etc. Serbia's poor attitude is reflecting negatively towards all its neighbors prospects (Balkans) of future membership.
@Padania
I'm following that closely...it's also going to be interesting to see the split of Sudan.....especially all the resources; this might be a cue for Quebec.
Thanks,
(KOSO, 31 May 2011 22:33)”
The EU only stipulated good neighborly relations – which does not amount to recognition of Kosovo’s UDI. Tadic’s refusal to attend was simply to reiterate that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo as a state. So far I have not read a single article about any EU country that called his refusal to attend as being contrary to the good neighbors condition.
I actually agree with you that the EU is probably not sincere about wanting to expand further whether for Serbia or the rest of the Balkans. And I actually never thought it was in Serbia’s best interests to join the EU and become a lackey to the major EU members in all but name.
He told Italy's ANSA news agency that the decision came because Kosovo's president, Atifeta Jahjaga, was invited.
WOW,cry me river Mr. Tadic. No one will miss you in Rome,Italy.
Is Serbia heading towards self isolation from the rest of the world? this is where INAT comes to dictate the future of a nation. I think some Serb politicians are still in deep sleep.
According to the text "The president added that "clearly, Italy's institutions gave advantage to the presence of Kosovo's representatives at the event"."
It is pretty obvious that all EU countries that recognised Kosovo will give advantage to the presence of Kosovo's representatives at all events THAN Serbia 's representatives. And mind you there 22 countries our of 27.
So better get prepared for isolation, unless Serbia wants to join Russian Federation.
From Western perspective this is natural and nobody worries what Serbia would think.
Time for Serbia to reform and focus towards EU destiny. After arresting Mladic the main obstacle is Kosovo recognition.
--He also told the news agency that he was disappointed that he would not be able to attend, and that the decision came "considering that the president of the so-called state of Kosovo was invited as well".--
So he sends mladic to the hague (stops harboring him) and then shouts: Let us in to the big boys (and girls) club!! but everything else remains the same, keep tormenting the people of kosova, keep propping up dodik and co. nothing really changes, because the hyper-nationalism is so ingrained, and nothing really challenges it. and tadic and the other politicians use it, promote it, whatever they believe in their so-called hearts.
there needs to be a true denazification of the society, but there is not. there needs to be a true decontamination of the culture fr the 90s but there is not. the real leaders, the people with insight, are stuck on the margins as the dissidents, and the "leaders" continue to promote the same ole milosevic crap.
i am glad, of course, that mladic is going to the hague. but if it's just viewed as one more "trick" to win intl approval, then it is worse than meaningless. tadic and co. can continue this path, and continue serbia's isolation, which is a lose-lose proposition for the common people. and that's the best we can do?
The boycott has nothing to do with inat, Brooklyn boy USA. It has to do with abiding with the Serbian constitution and UN resolutions. If some countries chose to ignore the UN, and the sovereignty of a member UN nation, that is their business. Bravo to Mr. Tadic for taking this line in the face of US/EU pressure. BTW, what do the Pristina Albanians have to offer at this summit?
just keep up you work Mr Tadic ahahahh
Serbia wants to join Russian Federation. this is so funny the serbs whant to go back where they came from mather russian
sleep sleep sleep and never wake up...
Mr Tadic! Don't worry, this meeting is only between drugsmuglers and human trafficers. They will disscuss future drugrutes accross the mediterranean and a stabilization of the drugtrade market. Berlusconi will also discuss with his albanian counterpart the visa liberation for young eastern european women who will travel from Albania/Kosovo to be absused in brothels across Italy. No hassle to get in to Italy for them. Italy has also promised to invest 1 million dollars in brand new kidnapping equipment for their albanian mafioso friends. Kidnaping is the nr 1 occupation in albanian areas. 3200 kidnappers per square mile, the highest in the world. More good news! A new Italian subsidised hospital is opening in Kukes, Albania, where organ harvesting will be conducted with high tech equipment and with experienced and certified neurosurgeons. Perhaps one day Serbia can be a member of this fine organization.
There should be no concept that Serbia will change its policy on this. Tadic should make it clear to the world that Serbia will stand by its ownership and attempts to rule the province beyond autonomy within Serbia (in line with 1244) will not be allowed to exist comfortably.
Recognition is not an option, and cooperation should be limited only to that that benefits those who were not yet ethnically cleansed from Kosovo by the Albanians who are trying to take over that piece of Serbian territory.
Serbia takes too much blame for what happened in Kosovo - Albanians were credited with the term 'Ethnic Cleansing' first being applied to the Albanian Communist Party ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo long before Milosevic.
Why o Why can we read in Russian History books that their ancestors came from behind the Carpathian mountains! meaning: The balkans!
On topic.
Its a good move of Tadic , Kosovo is Serbian and if some country's are not accepting that, its their problem and serbia shouldn't associate with country's who mean harm to Serbia....
Just some thoughts after reading all those comments here:
- Italia with Berlusconi, North-South conflict and quite some percentage of the GDP by criminal organisation(s) - indeed an archetype country to guide politics of other countries
- Albania & Kosovo, one of the (if not the) most backward region in Europe, economical more or less not existent, associated with vendetta and criminal organisations - what can it contribute to economical europe and hence why should it be talked to at all?
- Catalonia and basque region - no separation allowed by European community here, so why on the balkan? Hence at least I can understand Tadic's motivation, as historically the Kosovo rather belongs to serbia then to albania
BTW, what do the Pristina Albanians have to offer at this summit?
(progressive, 31 May 2011 11:24)
Apparently as much if not more than Serbia, as when Serbia presents the challenge either them or us, the answer is always the same: They(Kosovo) are coming, if you don't wish to ok we will proceed without you.
All those wh greatly exaggerate the importance of Serbia in the European market better look at reality.
To date has any group succumbed to Serbian boycotts? Kind of like Nikolic's hunger strike, seen only as a self absorbed attempt to manipulate others that fails big time.
lowe, your dead on right about Italy. The northern portion aka the rich want to succeed from the poor south. Keep on watching after S Sudan becomes independent here soon in July I expect a whole lot of other countries to reconsider their own borders. In my opinion there will be further fragmentations.
@Article
With Serbia boycotting because of Kosovo's presence essentially Belgrade is sending the message that it can't overcome it's past demons in the road to prosperity.
I am pretty sure that the Italians will not take lightly these offensive words. Serbia thinks it can afford a little more hisolation? It will get it. Good job giving the Italians a reason to slow down collaboration and EU support for Serbia! (maybe you don't want their investments and jobs after all..?)
Nice try Boris. Did your American advisers tell you to do this to show the public you're a 'patriot'? While at the same time you're sending Serbian citizens to their death to show trials run by NATO war criminals.
We can see right through your phony patriotism.
Good move Tadic. Europe is dead tired towards the Albanians in Kosovo and you show once again that Kosovo always will be your province. Also, I think sending Mladic to Hague is perfect move. I know that for the general Serb, they want to clean up their past. But one thing is 100% totally clear. When it comes to Kosovo, Serbia and Serbs will never ever give up together with the vast majority of the world. Kosovo is a south Serbian province and it will stay so until the end of time if the Albanians want it or not. Thats totally clear.
Go ahead and keep inviting your albo drug dealers to your meetings. You have to pay for their expenses and the Serbs won't have to pay for clooney's expenses. I think the Russians should bypass italy for the South Stream.
"@Article
With Serbia boycotting because of Kosovo's presence essentially Belgrade is sending the message that it can't overcome it's past demons in the road to prosperity.
Thanks,
(KOSO, 31 May 2011 16:20) "
I wouldn't exactly call the road to Rome as a road to any prosperity. Not when Padania's restlessness for independence continues to grow. As you yourself wrote, the north is the richer part of Italy.
Tadic doesn't belong in any western organized gatherings.This is Tadic's league:Putin,Lukashenko,Kim Jong Ill,Ahmedinajad,Chavez,Castro,Ghedafi,Mugabe,Bashir.
Ya northen Italy wants separation. It would not surprise me if Vojvodina one day amicable will follow suit. I mean honestly the people there (excluding Bosnian Serb the refuges Mladiq) are very different from the South of Serbia. They seem refined, different views, well spoken, do not like butchering people, and totally different from the Serbia south of Belgrade. Even looking most of them a mixed of Serb, Austrian, Kroat, Hungary anything ju kan think of.
So Vojvodina is next to separate, but this one amicably, not with an arms conflict.
It is actually sad my beloved football team Jugosallvia is no longer there. This used to really bring pride to all the people of the country when in the West. It had talented players.
I wouldn't exactly call the road to Rome as a road to any prosperity. Not when Padania's restlessness for independence continues to grow. As you yourself wrote, the north is the richer part of Italy.
(lowe, 31 May 2011 17:26)
The essence of my message is that the EU block is increasingly making it clear that Serbia needs to have good relations with its neighbors. Tadiq refusing to participate because of Kosovo's official(s) being there is childish. Refusing to participate because of Kosovo's president is actually an acknowledgement and validation to Kosovo's legitimacy in the world political arena.
Furthermore, the EU block is increasing becoming politically unwilling to allow Serbia into the union because the Serbo-Kosovo drama is indicative: Serbia is wanting to join the 27 EU strong, not the other way around. Today belgrade will refuse to recognize a potential candidate, tomorrow it will be Brussels laws for homosexuality, transgender, environment, corporations, etc. Serbia's poor attitude is reflecting negatively towards all its neighbors prospects (Balkans) of future membership.
@Padania
I'm following that closely...it's also going to be interesting to see the split of Sudan.....especially all the resources; this might be a cue for Quebec.
Just as in Warsaw, Tadic's absence will not be missed. And you can be sure that he will get more opportunity to announce other boycotts. Earth, however, will keep on revolving.
This means Tadic is about to arrest Goran Hadzic :)
(ivan, 31 May 2011 14:26) Not until Boris aka Borat and Goran make a deal. Goran wants to be in the Serb hall of heroic fame like Ratko and the other Serb criminal but in the real world known wide as the Serb wall of shame. A hefty life time pension for his criminal service from his criminal employer Serbia to keep his mouth shut. For Borat to arrange a visit for him a night with the ladies of the evening before good jail time. A Serbian president work is never done allays a Serbian criminal to serve.
We read from our self-proclaimed wanna-be journalist bob-o from frisco these disgusting and really sick comments...
" whatever they believe in their so-called hearts....there needs to be a true denazification of the society, but there is not... there needs to be a true decontamination of the culture fr the 90s but there is not."
You are starting to sound like a real wack-job, get a life, dude!!
Once again, you read wrong. Lega Nord's "leadership" is a crazy xenophobic bunch but that despite their wishes they could never secede. Its simply impossible, as they don't receive votes for that. FYI Umberto Bossi and a handful of other primitives already declared independence back in 1996. The 33 million of people on whose behalf he allegedly spoke of simply had a good laugh.
Also in the latest (may) administrative elections the North League suffered a heavy defeat, for ex losing everywhere in Piemonte and winning only Varese in the whole of Lombardy.
Not only you have no idea regarding the Balkans, now you show total ignorance about Italian matters too.
Serbian President Boris Tadić will miss the June 2 celebrations in Rome to mark the 150th anniversary of the unification of Italy
-- inat inat inat
With our new President A.Jahjaga, Kosova is going forward, well done.
Italiano Albano forwardo.
Can someone answer the question what does Serbian representatives in IMF do in similar meetings, since as you know Kosova is also a member of IMF and World Bank. I guess when it comes to the money, nationalism goes out of the window, even one as hardcore as the serb one.
(miri, 31 May 2011 20:30)
Right you are Miri, Serbia has more personalities than Lady Gaga and all just as fake.
I think whenever a Serb official refuses to participate in a meeting because of K. we Albanians and Serbs alike agree.
Well done Mr. Tadic. Wish you more refusal to participate in the future.
Can someone answer the question what does Serbian representatives in IMF do in similar meetings, since as you know Kosova is also a member of IMF and World Bank. I guess when it comes to the money, nationalism goes out of the window, even one as hardcore as the serb one.
"Italia with Berlusconi, North-South conflict and quite some percentage of the GDP by criminal organisation(s) - indeed an archetype country to guide politics of other countries"
Suddenly Italy, according to Serbs, is a rogue state while Romania and Slovakia seem to shine more. Unbelievable this kind of logic among Serbs.
"- Albania & Kosovo, one of the (if not the) most backward region in Europe, economical more or less not existent, associated with vendetta and criminal organisations - what can it contribute to economical europe and hence why should it be talked to at all?"
Because of this attitude you have in Balkans and elsewhere more enemies than friends. Could you mention two friendly countries around except Romania and half of Bosnia!!!!!
"- Catalonia and basque region - no separation allowed by European community here, so why on the balkan? Hence at least I can understand Tadic's motivation, as historically the Kosovo rather belongs to serbia then to albania"
The answer has been given 10 years ago but you time is stalled. Spanish army did not attack basques and killed or destroyed their properties while Serbia did all of these. That is why Europe allowed separation. For the moment being I would say that Kosovo belongs more to Albania than Serbia in case you prove otherwise.
in last week's elections the Lega Nord (which is supposed to promote the seccesionism of the North) lost votes in general and it lost several of its strongholds in Northern Italy. Seems that Lega Nord, together with Berlusconi is closing its cyclus. Doesn't seem exactly that "Padania's" restlessness for independence continues to grow. Anyone who is acquainted with Italian politics would explain you that "Padania" is a nonsense notion that ranges from the sheer populism to the typical "pagliacciata".
in last week's elections the Lega Nord (which is supposed to promote the seccesionism of the North) lost votes in general and it lost several of its strongholds in Northern Italy. Seems that Lega Nord, together with Berlusconi is closing its cyclus. Doesn't seem exactly that "Padania's" restlessness for independence continues to grow. Anyone who is acquainted with Italian politics would explain you that "Padania" is a nonsense notion that ranges from the sheer populism to the typical "pagliacciata".
(Observer, 31 May 2011 19:59) "
As I just replied to that Gustave, I never claimed to be an expert in Italian politics. As an outside observer however, the fact that the northern league is able to remain in political office means they must have supporters byeond just a handful. Especially when the articles that I read seemed to support the view that many in the north wants to be free of Rome.
And there could well be reasons why the northern league lost the latest elections other than northern voters suddenly falling heads over heels in love with the south again -- for example, economic reasons, voter backlash over their alliance with Berlusconi (he's the one embroiled in the scandals with young women right?). Again, I'm merely giving an opinion formed by articles that I read -- if you are an Italian or expert about Italy, it would be good if you could establish your counter arguments with online proof which should be readily available at your end, assuming what you claimed is true.
“The essence of my message is that the EU block is increasingly making it clear that Serbia needs to have good relations with its neighbors. Tadiq refusing to participate because of Kosovo's official(s) being there is childish. Refusing to participate because of Kosovo's president is actually an acknowledgement and validation to Kosovo's legitimacy in the world political arena.
Furthermore, the EU block is increasing becoming politically unwilling to allow Serbia into the union because the Serbo-Kosovo drama is indicative: Serbia is wanting to join the 27 EU strong, not the other way around. Today belgrade will refuse to recognize a potential candidate, tomorrow it will be Brussels laws for homosexuality, transgender, environment, corporations, etc. Serbia's poor attitude is reflecting negatively towards all its neighbors prospects (Balkans) of future membership.
@Padania
I'm following that closely...it's also going to be interesting to see the split of Sudan.....especially all the resources; this might be a cue for Quebec.
Thanks,
(KOSO, 31 May 2011 22:33)”
The EU only stipulated good neighborly relations – which does not amount to recognition of Kosovo’s UDI. Tadic’s refusal to attend was simply to reiterate that Serbia does not recognize Kosovo as a state. So far I have not read a single article about any EU country that called his refusal to attend as being contrary to the good neighbors condition.
I actually agree with you that the EU is probably not sincere about wanting to expand further whether for Serbia or the rest of the Balkans. And I actually never thought it was in Serbia’s best interests to join the EU and become a lackey to the major EU members in all but name.
Once again, you read wrong. Lega Nord's "leadership" is a crazy xenophobic bunch but that despite their wishes they could never secede. Its simply impossible, as they don't receive votes for that. FYI Umberto Bossi and a handful of other primitives already declared independence back in 1996. The 33 million of people on whose behalf he allegedly spoke of simply had a good laugh.
Also in the latest (may) administrative elections the North League suffered a heavy defeat, for ex losing everywhere in Piemonte and winning only Varese in the whole of Lombardy.
Not only you have no idea regarding the Balkans, now you show total ignorance about Italian matters too.
Lol
(Gustave, 31 May 2011 18:32)”
And where, pray tell, did I ever claimed to be an expert about Italy or the Balkans?????? I can’t possibly be as I am not from either area.
In my original post, I merely stated that I have read articles that suggested that there are people in north Italy who wanted to be independent of Rome. And I was able to back my words with actual articles. I have never claimed the articles to be accurate or inaccurate. If you dispute the contents of those articles, then by all means provide your views with supporting evidence – which you have failed to do so thus far.
It is YOU rather, who misinterpreted my words, deliberately or otherwise. If it was unintentional, I would suggest that you get your eyesight checked at the earliest opportunity before reading B92 articles again.
A modus vivendi is being worked out: Kosovo will be invited to - and attend - meetings in the countries that recognize it (US, The Twenty-Two, Japan, etc.) and will not be invited by Zimbabwe, Russia, Cuba, The Feckless Five ... This should simplify things, and prevent bad feelings.
Did everybody notice how the Poles and Slovaks handled things? During the first day, there were no flags anywhere, and the presidents were all represented by green bottles in front of their plates. And the papers (Serbian, not Slovak - they were busy with Parks and Palaces Weekend and the opening of the municipal swimming pools) could report with complete honesty that the Kosovo flag was nowhere in sight. No need to go into the absence of any flags at all, of course. On the second day, when Obama was present, there were flags for everybody. Obviously the Americans called the Poles and said that, since their guy didn't get to that part of the world very often, he might not be as recognizable as all the others, which would be embarrassing, and could they allow flags and symbols as a mark of hospitality?
And so both the Slovaks and the Kosovars went home happy. The Slovaks earned a favor in the future from Serbia, and the Kosovars got their pictures of the Blue-and-Gold up there with all the others. And nobody mistook Obama for the president of Montenegro (for example). Let us all give thanks for the diplomatic skills of the Poles. (Living between Germany and Russia, you develop a feel for this kind of thing, I imagine.)
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