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Wednesday, 25.05.2011.

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Organizers drop idea to have Kosovo with "state symbols"

Polish organizers of a conference scheduled for later this month have decided not to represent Kosovo with "any state symbols".

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Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

@ Romanian warrior
I am orthodox christian,but I feel like brothers with all albanians muslim,catholic and others in Kosova and everywhere where albanians live.My mother is half vlah half albanian, and my father is orthodox albanian(not greek) so I know about the Romania.
Albanians vlahs have given e great contribution in Albanian Renaissance and fought against turks,greeks,serbs,italians and germans along with albanians.I am just surpprised that Romania is using Kosova against Hungary.Romania before IJC verdict said that it will rescpect the verditc,but when the verdict was pro albanians, they along with slovakians, changed their stance.If you hate hungarians,go ahead and fight with them,but don't use albanians.It is not fair game!
Btw The religion of albanians is albanism!

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

@Mirel from ALBANIA

Sorry, what are you now, Mirel?Christian?Muslim?If you are half ROMANIAN-vlach or AROMAN-you need to know more about ROMANIA. Albania don't try to assimilate you as Albanians and not MacedoRomanians or vlachs???Toate cele bune.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

It looks like Serbia and Romania have boycoted the meeting.What about Slovakia?
Greetings to Poland who didn't bow to pressure of Romania,Slovakia and Serbia.
@Romanian warrior.
We also had the worst communist regime in East Europe.
Romania and Albania were very close allies.Romania were one the most active countries to support Albanian independence,when Serbia and Greece were against it.Romanian and albanians fought turks for decades,Unfortunately last several years Romania has become one of the most anti albanian country in EU.I am half vlah and I am ashamed that Romania,is punishing albanians every time they have a chanse.Between 7 million albanians and 8 million serbs,Romania has choosen serbs.I think they forget that unlike romanians who are anti-russian,sebs are pro russian,and in a Russia-Romania conflict Serbia will stay with Russia and Albania will support Romania.
Anyway,we vlahs in Albania are very dissapointed with Romania.Romania forget that albanians have been always in there side.Look ate Greece for example,Serbia was the first country to recognise FYROM as Macedonia.Serbia will be the fisrt country to backstabb Romania when they don't need you.
Anyway,Thank you USA,Poland and 22 most powerful countries of EU!
Shame on you Romania,Slovakia,Greece,Cyprus and Spain!

Daniel

pre 12 godina

Two irrelevant countries! The only "power" is the veto right in the EU.
(EA, 25 May 2011 12:29)

Another bright comment from this factory of foolishness. Imagine someone from a country that is as legitimate as Lilliput (Kosovo) claiming that two legitimate countries are irrelevant. Go figure. The funny thing is that your "legitimate" country Kosovo isn't going to be represented as a legitimate state because the two illegitimate countries don't want Kosovo to be represented as a parallel state. How do you account for that EA?

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

To the albanians who have commented here about ROMANIA:
ROMANIA is the seventh EU country as size and population, as well as one of the leading NATO members in Europe.. Especially we in Central and Eastern European countries, we understand well the message of the Pope JOHN PAUL "not afraid". Because at our skin has experienced a communist system killer, who deny CHRIST .For example, my country Romania has never had a Republican tradition, republic was imposed at Yalta in 1945 and as well as by Soviet tanks. Royal Romania was a respected and prosperous country and the Romanian state regressed with the Bolshevik Red Plague,terror imposed by stalin and as well as Roosevelt and Churchill's acceptance, in all countries of Central and Eastern Europe.As well as Romania was Poland , Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia etc.What is Albania in the history of the Europe, except so-called Illyrian descent?Is mafia, drugs, intolerance… and destruction of Orthodox monasteries in Kosovo.Kosovo is Serbia .
PS.In interwar Romania, former Yugoslavia and former Czechoslovakia allied to the "Little Entente" and so will always be.

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

In the EU Lisbon Treaty were not mentioned Europe's Christian roots???!!!, in the name of "positive discrimination" and not to "disturb" packs of immigrants and especially of their "sensitivity" .It is time for us Europeans and especially political leaders of the 27 EU countries aware of the danger of muslim intolerance.And we know well this, because we have in Europe a little muslim majority state named Albania =who is as well as member NATO!!!!! and 2 two former Yugoslav provinces,Bosnia with one-third of the inhabitants muslim and Kosovo; muslims want to destroy all traces of Christians . Radical islam is the fact :intolerance, terror, revenge....especially against Christianity. That saw all in Egypt earlier this year, when 30 Coptic Christians were killed in Alexandria
- Honor to the EU countries who have not recognized Kosovo muslim sting:CYPRUS, GREECE, ROMANIA, SLOVAKIA and SPAIN.

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

It is one of the few occasions when I agree with President of my country ROMANIA, Traian Basescu:"As the organisers decided to ivite an entity that is not recognised as a state by our country, the president of Romania, Traian Basescu, will not participate in the event," said a presidential spokesman to Romanian press agencies."Honor to the EU countries who have not recognized Kosovo muslim sting:CYPRUS, GREECE, ROMANIA, SLOVAKIA and SPAIN.

Top

pre 12 godina

"To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT. "
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)

I think so, too. Nobody will try to relocate Kosovo to Africa, though the habits, attitude and archaic clan structures of the population and the corrupt and criminal leaders and political parties would fit much better there that to a Europe with its standards and democratic values.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57 - did you by any chance see the article in yesterday's Blic on the breakdown of crimes committed last year in Austria? 46% of crimes committed by persons from the Western Balkans last year were committed by Serbs, 1% by Albanians. Even if you claim that all the crimes attributed to Serbs were actually committed by Albanians, there are only about as many Albanians in Kosovo + Serbia as there are in all of Albania - what would account for Albanians from Albania being so much less likely to commit crimes than those living in what you regard as Serbia?
(Amer, 26 May 2011 04:58)

The reason for that is that there are many Serbs in Austria, but few Austrians, If theres 100 Serbs and 1 Albanian, of course there are going to be more Serbian crimes then Albanian ones.

Amer

pre 12 godina

Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57 - did you by any chance see the article in yesterday's Blic on the breakdown of crimes committed last year in Austria? 46% of crimes committed by persons from the Western Balkans last year were committed by Serbs, 1% by Albanians. Even if you claim that all the crimes attributed to Serbs were actually committed by Albanians, there are only about as many Albanians in Kosovo + Serbia as there are in all of Albania - what would account for Albanians from Albania being so much less likely to commit crimes than those living in what you regard as Serbia?

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is Serbia! The 5 EU countries can block "Kosovo" from joining the EU or any other international summit/organization. o much fro being "Independent and Sovereign". I told you thi all along! Serbia,Slovakia,Greece, Romania, Spain, and Cyprus will never allow "Kosovo" to join the EU as an independent state! Never! Get ready for status negotiations very soon after the temproary institutions in Pristina see that they are cornered.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Serbia, Bosnia, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Spain, Russia and more than 100 countries will never recognize ''Kosova'' untill we get new UN resolution which will be suported by both albanians and serbs.
(DX, 25 May 2011 19:56)

Who said that ? I could not find more than 20 countries who have said they will not recognize Kosovo and even less who have used the word "never". Of course, I apologize if you have been given the powers by those 100+ countries to declare on their behalf today that they will never recognize Kosovo.

Ron

pre 12 godina

About Kosovo joining EU.

Even if there is a mutual agreed deal for independence of the Serbian province of Kosovo tomorrow.... even then I think it would take at least 15 years before Kosovo could join EU. Corruption, unemployment, treatment of minorities (like Roma), ...

But it will take a very long time before Albania will join. Serbia I think will join within 10 years...

icj1

pre 12 godina

A good solution. Since Kosovo is not a real state, it won't be represented with state symbols. Simple. Easy. Reasonable. Just like with the UN mettings in New York: Kosovo officials attend there as 'guests'. I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit.
(Top, 25 May 2011 20:27)


I fully agree... If Kosovo is happy to go thinking that it is going as a state and Serbia is happy to go thinking that Kosovo is not coming as a state, than everybody is happy and case closed.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I was right again. All this puts Dacic's statements on the division of KiM into perspective: as a ruse to confuse & demoralize our enemies as I said all along, just check the archives.
(highduke, 25 May 2011 17:12)

yeah, and I said yeasterday to a friend of mine that it was a very cold day and that was a ruse to confuse and demoralize enemies and as a result two students did not pass the exam... So I met my friend again today and I said to her: "I told you" ... :)

Dude do you put your mind in motion to think about the logic for going from A to B to C ? I.e. what is the logical nexus ? What is the causal relationship ? Or, are you flying high ?

Ron

pre 12 godina

Question for the organisers:

"Is Kosovo a state?"

If yes: then use normal state symbols. Just like you would do in the case of Nigeria, France or Australia.

If not: do not use (non-existent) state symbols.

Come on, it is not so hard!

Korrik Sofalia

pre 12 godina

First: I am surprised how B92 uncritically changed to a simple cheerleader of the Serbian politics of hiding its national shame: Serbia lost Kosovo There is truly much to criticize on the government of Kosovo, but there was good reason for the very normal people to escape from Serbia's state backed suppression by seceding from Serbia. Serbia destroyed many individuals and their ordinary aspiration, like education and employment. And many Serbs in Kosovo, maybe partially without intention, profited from there supreme status - like the whites in South Africa did.
Second: I am surprised about these comments saying Albanians wouldn't be welcome in western Europe. Its true, there is a bad image - but with the exception of Slovenia and Czechia, Slaves likewise suffer from a very bad reputation, in particular Serbs and Russians. However for those people the status of Kosovo is not on the agenda - criminals from all sides are very efficient in doing business together. Finally more and more people also in Serbia admit the systematic failure of Serbia and they know that religious or mythological arguments are all over the world only pretended and used to hide material truths: Serbia is not interested in Kosovo as the root of its existence ... its an political economical power game. Serbia was the perpetrator, and has lost. Metohija is Dukagjin now. And what it was before, you can read in the manipulated history books from all sides. One day maybe we will listen to "the dream" of Martin Luther King!

Dodosour

pre 12 godina

"No way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.
(Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57)"

Yesterday an apology for criminal propaganda, and today a criminal propaganda.

Well done b92

And well done stuff, the more you huff the the more you puff.

Sad day that "real" commentators are anonymous ;)

KU

pre 12 godina

"I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit."
(Top, 25 May 2011 20:27)

I think the same but apparently he is still not going. Maybe he knows something about the summit you and I don't know :). For example, Obama or the Polish might ask him to take the usual picture with the heads of state with Kosovo's president in it. Or they might not even ask him directly, they might just say: "gather around everybody, let's take a picture". after all, they love to be sneaky and go behind Serbia's back, as Dacic said. That would put him in a hell of a situation torn between one choice and the other. can you imagine Tadic singing "should I stay or should I go" in his mind? Better to avoid any embarrassing situations and postpone any decisions, Serbian politicians are good at that and nobody will ever force them to make any, not even photographers. I hope he will go though, he looks good on pictures.

funny

pre 12 godina

o way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.
(Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57)
Funny you already speak as if you are European, Just because there is a visa waiver, does not mean you have joined the club. You will continue to get your incentives to become a member but there is a lot to do before you go through the door and you as well as all the other deniers know what that is.

The Count of Kosova

pre 12 godina

I can only thank Romania and Slovakia for their principled stance. Europe is split and KiM Albanians find this amusing.
(Zoran, 25 May 2011 10:35)

Zoran,

It is Serbia that is split and not Europe. Holland and other countries, including the USA, will make sure Serbia never becomes a member of the EU unless Serbia captures all its War Criminals and recognizes Kosova. If you don't believe me, just watch Obama snub Tadic at the meeting in Poland. As for Romania and Slovakia, they are even in worse shape financially than Greece.

Staff

pre 12 godina

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)
No way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

HAHAHAHA, Once again, kosovo is being treated like a transgender trying to crash a frat party. What do you expect when a minor employee of the us state dept become the us ambassador there and he chooses kosovo's pseudo-president based on a 5 minute meeting with her highness hillary. It will be interesting to see if boris clooney the weasel attends this freak show. I bet the Israeli PM wishes he had a reason to boycott meetings with the annointed one.

Top

pre 12 godina

A good solution. Since Kosovo is not a real state, it won't be represented with state symbols. Simple. Easy. Reasonable. Just like with the UN mettings in New York: Kosovo officials attend there as 'guests'. I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit.

lids

pre 12 godina

Why do albanians love pain-being pushed in a back like a hired help cannot be good for already marked welfare recipients..
It`s not like EU does not know albanians have nothing to contribute except misery,unless they think they are doing them some favor by feeding few of them that day..
Strange...

DX

pre 12 godina

Serbia, Bosnia, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Spain, Russia and more than 100 countries will never recognize ''Kosova'' untill we get new UN resolution which will be suported by both albanians and serbs. Serbia could recognize Kosovo, but albanians dont even want to talk about problems of serbs in Kosovo, and not only serbs but other minorities in North that dont want to be controled by albanians.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@mirel from albania: come on, my friend, it has nothing to do with hatred against the Albanians at all. Kosovo is just and simply not a state, and therefore has nothing to contribute at this summit.

the Slovakians simply do not recognize the foreign-supported freak creation on serbian territory as a state. that´s all.

you are free to construct any sort of conspiracy-theory or to claim that it is hate-driven by the Slovakians, but if you look at it rationally, it is simply and naturally that the Slovakians threat to stay away.

get over it, dude, KiM is serbian territory. you just haven´t realized it yet.

KU

pre 12 godina

By artificially creating connections and similarities between Kosovo and its own minority question Slovakia is tying the solution to its problem to the solution of Serbia's problem. It forgets that the two questions are not the same. The same mistake Spain committed. Thus, when Serbia lost at the ICJ, so did Slovakia and Spain. Spain apparently learned from that mistake, the next day they said the Basque question and Kosovo are not similar (duh!!). Slovakia's foreign policy is still done by Jeremic instead.

Meeting Canceled

pre 12 godina

After a few more games of ping-pong and after O'Obama locates his roots in Ireland and realizes that Joplin is in Missouri and that Missouri is the "show me state", maybe he'll drop by the meeting on the 27th for a few pats on the head and "you are the good guys" words and a photo-op, or cancel the meeting altogether and high-tail it back to the White House before the Republicans repossess that too.

Aleks

pre 12 godina

Slovakia and Romania are insignificant compared to the mighty Illyrian Empire, conquerers of the Balkans and the entire world, even if they forgot to write it down (along with everybody else)!

Speaking of empires, is everyone else watching Europe scuttle around Emperor Obama to pay tribute in the hope of being bestowed favor? Apparently this is the 'right kind' of humiliation because they choose to do it rather than being forced to do it. Exit stage left...

Ratko

pre 12 godina

Mirel said, "I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08) "

Well Mirel I'll help you out with this one. Maybe it's because you are a bunch of land grabbing bandits! The most intolerant people in all of europe!

Mike

pre 12 godina

I'm glad to see a compromise was reached in such a short period of time. Now it remains to be seen whether

a) Tadic will come
b) Jahjaga will now be forced to boycott

Whatever the case, the decision to include Kosovo without any state symbols or the ability to vote on any resolutions is an optimal solution since not every state recognizes its independence but is still a win-win for all sides in terms of getting full representation. Slovakia, Romania, and Serbia are more important to this regional conference than Pristina, and I applaud the pragmatism between Bratislava and Warsaw in reaching an agreed upon decision.

Predator

pre 12 godina

“I cannot believe that you said that with a straight face. You speak of human rights violation and corruption, now before you lambast Slovakia and Romania on both those ocunts, I would like to remind you that some 200,000 + of Kosovo's Serbs, Jews, Roma and Gorani are currently refugees in central Serbia because they are unable to go back to their homesteads in fear of their lives from vengeful Albanian hate mobs and those ethnic minorities that are remaining (who live in barbed war ghettoes guarded 24/7 by KFOR troops) run the gantlet of venturing into Albanian populated areas at risk of pain or death for doing the things that many of us take for granted, i.e. shopping, going to church for worship and visiting the often desecrated graves of their loved ones or visiting relatives not to mention the hundreds of Serbs who are still missing after being abducted and murdered for their internal organs.

...and speaking of corruption, just dont go there. Hash and Haradinaj have enough rope to hang themselves. The corruption and human rights abuses of Slovakia and Romania pale into comparison to what the fascist kleptocrats in Pristina have inflicted on the very people that they seek to represent. The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.

Oh the infamy, the infamy!”


Again, Slovakia is the worst example of EU concerning the human rights. Minorities there are still second class citizens let alone roma people. You and other lunatics can refer to the daily news about that. As for Romania I cannot find to describe as I have been there several times. Corruption is in its highest level right in the face of EU. It is the country that no one wants to visit twice for obvious reasons (ask Italians for more). The idea was that both countries are not to be taken as a model of prosperity and WONT BE TAKEN at any costs.
Kosovo had before war at most 10 % serbs & other minorities which means around 200K while more than 130k are still there. How do you calculate 200k and more left Kosovo!!!! Have you listen to RTS which some days ago apologized for its propaganda or you remember the days of Kosovo e nase…..You associate the same group of people who were cleansed from Nazis with them who left Kosovo. No, gorani, serb, roma has been target unless they participated in crimes against Albanian population which lost more than 12k. The majority of them left with criminal Serbian army and that is why they cannot be back in Kosovo. As for Jews clean your dirty mind before you speaks propaganda. You are crying daily here how serbs were killed during wwII but Kosovo’s must forget the beloved one who were killed in barbaric ways from barbars. You reap what you sow.
You are accusing me for moral!!! I cannot be always 100% right but it is sure 100% that I have much more moral than any Serbian diasporas internet warrior. For the simple reason because my Serbian neighbors are still alive but my relatives are not. I am happy that you put on the same place Romania and Kosovo, state of 3y. How dare to compare the corruption in such conditions by considering the problems Kosovo has had!!!! You have tried to put a rope against H. Thaci and R. Haradinaj several times but instead your war criminals still remain the champions of prison populations so far.
“The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.”
Emotion of guilt for what pathetic man!!! What you call political masters are feeding your fellows in Serbia and they are the same who sent you tons of bombs in order to consider your emotions towards your citizens brutally victimized. It is enough for me to see your moral and compassion here with you childish arguments by forgetting that the same moral & and compassion are expressing all neighbors around Serbia.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08) It dose not have much to do with Albanians or Kosovo ,Slovaks position. It has much to do with Hungary and the triple pact alliance of Serbia ,Slovakia and Romania against Hungary and their fear of it. Kosovo is a excuse being side swiped by the other two Romanian and Slovakia fear of Hungarian demand of return of its borders and people that the 3 countrys stold from Hungary.

Vuk

pre 12 godina

(Creative Rationality, 25 May 2011 15:56)

According to you Serbia, Slovakia and Romania are insignificant? I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself, I don't recall any country being insignificant least of all these three countries which are far more significant then a quasi-Americo-Albanian state created for imperialistic goals which has turned into a narco-state with very little future or anything to offer the world apart from crime.

ivan

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08)

Slovakia doesn't care about Serbia. Slovakia has its own problem (Kosovo). Slovakia has 2 million Hungarians who want to join Hungary.

highduke

pre 12 godina

I was right again. All this puts Dacic's statements on the division of KiM into perspective: as a ruse to confuse & demoralize our enemies as I said all along, just check the archives. Thanx to our Slavic & Orthodox brothers Slovakia & Romania but Poland needs to learn from them how to treat us, their kin.

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Kosovo will partecipate without flags or other symbols because not all the EU countries recognize their state..Romania will participate because they are the new best Us friends in SEE and Obama will deploy the missiles there ...Slovakia will partecipate because it's in their best interest during these periods of crisis... Serbia will do what it wants...

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

This article fails to inform whether they are stripping all state symbols ?

If that's the case than it will be a meeting in equal footing.....



Thanks,

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Mirel from Albania

Slovakia has nothing against Albanians but they have their own problems/reasons not to recognise Kosovo for now but they have to sooner or later.

I see they decided not to put names/flags of any country in this meeting that's fine with me, it's still the meeting of leaders/presidents so Kosovo is equal amongs them because they did not send me instead but our President.

Predator

pre 12 godina

"Excellent news. Like I said yesterday, having "Kosova" attend at the expense of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania isn't a smart idea. The narrow mindedness of this independence decision is costly to European unity."

At the expense of Serbia!!!! Of course, the expense would be at "international law" protectors which are burden to the Europe but still exist on the paper. However they will always find mechanisms to save the EU unity but where is Serbia??? Only backwards as always. While Kosovo would be present, doesn't matter how it is represented, Serbia wont be.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

This is absolutely non sense. Kosovo will very likely participate as a fully fledged state with all necessary state symbols. USA will guarantee that Kosovo participates as a state.

As per Slovakia and Romania they are extremely insignificant to be heeded. Serbia needs to pay attention to what happen in world and regional summits as this Kosovo participation in important summits will very likely not be the last one.

Can Serbia live isolated along with Slovakia and Romania?

Maybe YES, I dont know!

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)

Ben, leave our horned friends out of this. They produce copious amount of good prime beef which we all can enjoy.

On the otherhand, Hash & co. can keep on producing the copious amounts of bulls**t that they are world renowned for.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

We respect all countries attitudes but please Kosovo stay away from Slovakia and Romania which are two worst models of EU, one for human rights violation and one for corruption. Danke schön!
(Predator, 25 May 2011 12:47)

I cannot believe that you said that with a straight face. You speak of human rights violation and corruption, now before you lambast Slovakia and Romania on both those ocunts, I would like to remind you that some 200,000 + of Kosovo's Serbs, Jews, Roma and Gorani are currently refugees in central Serbia because they are unable to go back to their homesteads in fear of their lives from vengeful Albanian hate mobs and those ethnic minorities that are remaining (who live in barbed war ghettoes guarded 24/7 by KFOR troops) run the gantlet of venturing into Albanian populated areas at risk of pain or death for doing the things that many of us take for granted, i.e. shopping, going to church for worship and visiting the often desecrated graves of their loved ones or visiting relatives not to mention the hundreds of Serbs who are still missing after being abducted and murdered for their internal organs.

...and speaking of corruption, just dont go there. Hash and Haradinaj have enough rope to hang themselves. The corruption and human rights abuses of Slovakia and Romania pale into comparison to what the fascist kleptocrats in Pristina have inflicted on the very people that they seek to represent. The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.

Oh the infamy, the infamy!

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Organizers drop idea to have Kosovo with "state symbols"
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Excellent news. Like I said yesterday, having "Kosova" attend at the expense of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania isn't a smart idea. The narrow mindedness of this independence decision is costly to European unity.

I'm glad they have realised the reality of the situation and are making appropriate adjustments. Whoever said that Slovakia and Romania would attend yesterday seem to be right but probably not as they envisioned.

The EU as a body does not recognise "Kosova".

ben

pre 12 godina

To follow this perverted logic then all other states should boycott the gathering as they do recognize Kosova and leave Obama with Slovakia, Serbia and Romania in a local chat...

These bulls act in this way: or you have Kosova or you don't have Rumania and Slovakia.

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.

Blero

pre 12 godina

Romania and Slovakia do not recognize Kosovo and all other central and eastern European contries do not recognize Serbia.Is that what your president said.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys.
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)
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Do you think the UN should punish the 70 odd countries that have recognised "Kosova" considering they work against the majority of the world?

Mendo

pre 12 godina

Oh my, I read it somewhere in our media Slovakia changed the position and the Slovak President would take part in the same meeting with Kosovo President and it's good maybe another opportunity for the Slovak President to steal more pens. Sorry Zoran, it seems you are only left with Romania for now.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)
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Spain won't be attending and if you studied geography you may understand why.

Anyway, as printed by the Germans:

"In truth, it's the Americans who organized this summit, they put the guest list together," Lewicki said. "Kosovo was invited at the express request of the US. So the boycott doesn't really hurt us, it's really a matter for US politics."

Check -> http://tinyurl.com/42urgw7

The US causing trouble once again.

TP

pre 12 godina

Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU...
(Demi)

There speaks the true voice of 'democracy' from the impoverished periphery of the New World Order.

The tail wags the dog only for as long as the dog wishes it.

Demi

pre 12 godina

This also showes wich countrys are unfaithful to their union EU and more faithful to Russia. Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys. Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?

Hinari

pre 12 godina

"This also showes wich countrys are unfaithful to their union EU and more faithful to Russia. Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys. Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)"

Demi, the summit is called: "The summit of Presidents from Central and South-East Europe".
Spain in Eastern Europe? Cyprus?
Maybe Greece was invited, but if they are invited and don't boycott is because of their current economical situation ... they depend on Germany mainly for now. That doesn't mean they agree with Kosovo status. Romania and Slovakia don't have such serious economical problems ... Even if they boycott the meeting, be sure that they'll transmit their messages out there ...
Strange that you say Romania/Slovakia are faithful to Russia ...:)), since the US just announced that it will deploy in Romania a main part of the European missile shield, making Russia angry over Romania .
Before issuing statements, check before what you're saying . Albania/Kosovo is having a very little importance for anyone in Europe for now, don't overestimate you ... just wait a couple of years and let's talk then about Germany/France current stance ... The time have passed.

For you having the expected success, you should had from the start 100% acceptance. You didn't have it. Now it's the reversal thing, just open you eyes.

Predator

pre 12 godina

The explanation is simply dear commentators. Slovakia was busy with building the walls to isolate Roma peoples and also stripping the citizenship Hungarians. While Romania is taking care of corrupted officials and politicians who are being arrested right some days before such events. By the way there are others who decide on how to push Kosovo on its right way ahead. We respect all countries attitudes but please Kosovo stay away from Slovakia and Romania which are two worst models of EU, one for human rights violation and one for corruption. Danke schön!

The Brit

pre 12 godina

This represents an important step forward - it shoots a real hole in the "we'll agree to disagree, but the real EU policy is recognition" line being peddled by the Commission. Much respect to Romania and Slovakia for their principled stand. Pity the Greeks couldn't have walked it like they talk it, but I suppose you have less space for diplomatic manoeuvre when you're bankrupt,

PEN

pre 12 godina

It stretches credibility beyond the absurd to assume that Polish officials would volutarily rather have Kosovo Albanians attending this meeting, than the head's of three European countries who are now boycotting it. What on earth do the Albanians from Pristina have that can possibly contribute to this summit. Their economic stability and business prowess. The Yanks and the Poles must think we're all fools. The Americans are desperate to legitimise their Kosovo project no matter how daft it looks to the rest of the world.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Zoran
Europe can be split as much as they want we are happy that we got America and yes we are amused. Who cares what Romania and Slovakia have to say nobody listen to them in Europe expect Serbia.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

The UDD has split Europe. It has cause divisions where division did not exist. Prior to the UDD there was an agreement in place with the UN where all sides could be represented but now there is no such agreement. We had an agreement on border control, taxes, telecommunications and so on but now there is further division and after 3 years the situation keeps getting worse.

Again the US and EU have messed up in the Balkans. We are people who are willing to negotiate but the empire thinks they should just tell us what to. It is obvious they have a lack of understanding of the region as they keep repeating the same mistakes.

I can only thank Romania and Slovakia for their principled stance. Europe is split and KiM Albanians find this amusing.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

The UDD has split Europe. It has cause divisions where division did not exist. Prior to the UDD there was an agreement in place with the UN where all sides could be represented but now there is no such agreement. We had an agreement on border control, taxes, telecommunications and so on but now there is further division and after 3 years the situation keeps getting worse.

Again the US and EU have messed up in the Balkans. We are people who are willing to negotiate but the empire thinks they should just tell us what to. It is obvious they have a lack of understanding of the region as they keep repeating the same mistakes.

I can only thank Romania and Slovakia for their principled stance. Europe is split and KiM Albanians find this amusing.

The Brit

pre 12 godina

This represents an important step forward - it shoots a real hole in the "we'll agree to disagree, but the real EU policy is recognition" line being peddled by the Commission. Much respect to Romania and Slovakia for their principled stand. Pity the Greeks couldn't have walked it like they talk it, but I suppose you have less space for diplomatic manoeuvre when you're bankrupt,

PEN

pre 12 godina

It stretches credibility beyond the absurd to assume that Polish officials would volutarily rather have Kosovo Albanians attending this meeting, than the head's of three European countries who are now boycotting it. What on earth do the Albanians from Pristina have that can possibly contribute to this summit. Their economic stability and business prowess. The Yanks and the Poles must think we're all fools. The Americans are desperate to legitimise their Kosovo project no matter how daft it looks to the rest of the world.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys.
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)
--
Do you think the UN should punish the 70 odd countries that have recognised "Kosova" considering they work against the majority of the world?

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

We respect all countries attitudes but please Kosovo stay away from Slovakia and Romania which are two worst models of EU, one for human rights violation and one for corruption. Danke schön!
(Predator, 25 May 2011 12:47)

I cannot believe that you said that with a straight face. You speak of human rights violation and corruption, now before you lambast Slovakia and Romania on both those ocunts, I would like to remind you that some 200,000 + of Kosovo's Serbs, Jews, Roma and Gorani are currently refugees in central Serbia because they are unable to go back to their homesteads in fear of their lives from vengeful Albanian hate mobs and those ethnic minorities that are remaining (who live in barbed war ghettoes guarded 24/7 by KFOR troops) run the gantlet of venturing into Albanian populated areas at risk of pain or death for doing the things that many of us take for granted, i.e. shopping, going to church for worship and visiting the often desecrated graves of their loved ones or visiting relatives not to mention the hundreds of Serbs who are still missing after being abducted and murdered for their internal organs.

...and speaking of corruption, just dont go there. Hash and Haradinaj have enough rope to hang themselves. The corruption and human rights abuses of Slovakia and Romania pale into comparison to what the fascist kleptocrats in Pristina have inflicted on the very people that they seek to represent. The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.

Oh the infamy, the infamy!

TP

pre 12 godina

Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU...
(Demi)

There speaks the true voice of 'democracy' from the impoverished periphery of the New World Order.

The tail wags the dog only for as long as the dog wishes it.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Organizers drop idea to have Kosovo with "state symbols"
--
Excellent news. Like I said yesterday, having "Kosova" attend at the expense of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania isn't a smart idea. The narrow mindedness of this independence decision is costly to European unity.

I'm glad they have realised the reality of the situation and are making appropriate adjustments. Whoever said that Slovakia and Romania would attend yesterday seem to be right but probably not as they envisioned.

The EU as a body does not recognise "Kosova".

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)
--
Spain won't be attending and if you studied geography you may understand why.

Anyway, as printed by the Germans:

"In truth, it's the Americans who organized this summit, they put the guest list together," Lewicki said. "Kosovo was invited at the express request of the US. So the boycott doesn't really hurt us, it's really a matter for US politics."

Check -> http://tinyurl.com/42urgw7

The US causing trouble once again.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)

Ben, leave our horned friends out of this. They produce copious amount of good prime beef which we all can enjoy.

On the otherhand, Hash & co. can keep on producing the copious amounts of bulls**t that they are world renowned for.

Vuk

pre 12 godina

(Creative Rationality, 25 May 2011 15:56)

According to you Serbia, Slovakia and Romania are insignificant? I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself, I don't recall any country being insignificant least of all these three countries which are far more significant then a quasi-Americo-Albanian state created for imperialistic goals which has turned into a narco-state with very little future or anything to offer the world apart from crime.

Top

pre 12 godina

A good solution. Since Kosovo is not a real state, it won't be represented with state symbols. Simple. Easy. Reasonable. Just like with the UN mettings in New York: Kosovo officials attend there as 'guests'. I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@mirel from albania: come on, my friend, it has nothing to do with hatred against the Albanians at all. Kosovo is just and simply not a state, and therefore has nothing to contribute at this summit.

the Slovakians simply do not recognize the foreign-supported freak creation on serbian territory as a state. that´s all.

you are free to construct any sort of conspiracy-theory or to claim that it is hate-driven by the Slovakians, but if you look at it rationally, it is simply and naturally that the Slovakians threat to stay away.

get over it, dude, KiM is serbian territory. you just haven´t realized it yet.

Staff

pre 12 godina

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)
No way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.

DX

pre 12 godina

Serbia, Bosnia, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Spain, Russia and more than 100 countries will never recognize ''Kosova'' untill we get new UN resolution which will be suported by both albanians and serbs. Serbia could recognize Kosovo, but albanians dont even want to talk about problems of serbs in Kosovo, and not only serbs but other minorities in North that dont want to be controled by albanians.

Hinari

pre 12 godina

"This also showes wich countrys are unfaithful to their union EU and more faithful to Russia. Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys. Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)"

Demi, the summit is called: "The summit of Presidents from Central and South-East Europe".
Spain in Eastern Europe? Cyprus?
Maybe Greece was invited, but if they are invited and don't boycott is because of their current economical situation ... they depend on Germany mainly for now. That doesn't mean they agree with Kosovo status. Romania and Slovakia don't have such serious economical problems ... Even if they boycott the meeting, be sure that they'll transmit their messages out there ...
Strange that you say Romania/Slovakia are faithful to Russia ...:)), since the US just announced that it will deploy in Romania a main part of the European missile shield, making Russia angry over Romania .
Before issuing statements, check before what you're saying . Albania/Kosovo is having a very little importance for anyone in Europe for now, don't overestimate you ... just wait a couple of years and let's talk then about Germany/France current stance ... The time have passed.

For you having the expected success, you should had from the start 100% acceptance. You didn't have it. Now it's the reversal thing, just open you eyes.

Predator

pre 12 godina

The explanation is simply dear commentators. Slovakia was busy with building the walls to isolate Roma peoples and also stripping the citizenship Hungarians. While Romania is taking care of corrupted officials and politicians who are being arrested right some days before such events. By the way there are others who decide on how to push Kosovo on its right way ahead. We respect all countries attitudes but please Kosovo stay away from Slovakia and Romania which are two worst models of EU, one for human rights violation and one for corruption. Danke schön!

Ratko

pre 12 godina

Mirel said, "I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08) "

Well Mirel I'll help you out with this one. Maybe it's because you are a bunch of land grabbing bandits! The most intolerant people in all of europe!

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08) It dose not have much to do with Albanians or Kosovo ,Slovaks position. It has much to do with Hungary and the triple pact alliance of Serbia ,Slovakia and Romania against Hungary and their fear of it. Kosovo is a excuse being side swiped by the other two Romanian and Slovakia fear of Hungarian demand of return of its borders and people that the 3 countrys stold from Hungary.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Zoran
Europe can be split as much as they want we are happy that we got America and yes we are amused. Who cares what Romania and Slovakia have to say nobody listen to them in Europe expect Serbia.

Demi

pre 12 godina

This also showes wich countrys are unfaithful to their union EU and more faithful to Russia. Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys. Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?

Aleks

pre 12 godina

Slovakia and Romania are insignificant compared to the mighty Illyrian Empire, conquerers of the Balkans and the entire world, even if they forgot to write it down (along with everybody else)!

Speaking of empires, is everyone else watching Europe scuttle around Emperor Obama to pay tribute in the hope of being bestowed favor? Apparently this is the 'right kind' of humiliation because they choose to do it rather than being forced to do it. Exit stage left...

lids

pre 12 godina

Why do albanians love pain-being pushed in a back like a hired help cannot be good for already marked welfare recipients..
It`s not like EU does not know albanians have nothing to contribute except misery,unless they think they are doing them some favor by feeding few of them that day..
Strange...

Mike

pre 12 godina

I'm glad to see a compromise was reached in such a short period of time. Now it remains to be seen whether

a) Tadic will come
b) Jahjaga will now be forced to boycott

Whatever the case, the decision to include Kosovo without any state symbols or the ability to vote on any resolutions is an optimal solution since not every state recognizes its independence but is still a win-win for all sides in terms of getting full representation. Slovakia, Romania, and Serbia are more important to this regional conference than Pristina, and I applaud the pragmatism between Bratislava and Warsaw in reaching an agreed upon decision.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

Oh my, I read it somewhere in our media Slovakia changed the position and the Slovak President would take part in the same meeting with Kosovo President and it's good maybe another opportunity for the Slovak President to steal more pens. Sorry Zoran, it seems you are only left with Romania for now.

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

HAHAHAHA, Once again, kosovo is being treated like a transgender trying to crash a frat party. What do you expect when a minor employee of the us state dept become the us ambassador there and he chooses kosovo's pseudo-president based on a 5 minute meeting with her highness hillary. It will be interesting to see if boris clooney the weasel attends this freak show. I bet the Israeli PM wishes he had a reason to boycott meetings with the annointed one.

Meeting Canceled

pre 12 godina

After a few more games of ping-pong and after O'Obama locates his roots in Ireland and realizes that Joplin is in Missouri and that Missouri is the "show me state", maybe he'll drop by the meeting on the 27th for a few pats on the head and "you are the good guys" words and a photo-op, or cancel the meeting altogether and high-tail it back to the White House before the Republicans repossess that too.

Blero

pre 12 godina

Romania and Slovakia do not recognize Kosovo and all other central and eastern European contries do not recognize Serbia.Is that what your president said.

ben

pre 12 godina

To follow this perverted logic then all other states should boycott the gathering as they do recognize Kosova and leave Obama with Slovakia, Serbia and Romania in a local chat...

These bulls act in this way: or you have Kosova or you don't have Rumania and Slovakia.

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.

highduke

pre 12 godina

I was right again. All this puts Dacic's statements on the division of KiM into perspective: as a ruse to confuse & demoralize our enemies as I said all along, just check the archives. Thanx to our Slavic & Orthodox brothers Slovakia & Romania but Poland needs to learn from them how to treat us, their kin.

Predator

pre 12 godina

“I cannot believe that you said that with a straight face. You speak of human rights violation and corruption, now before you lambast Slovakia and Romania on both those ocunts, I would like to remind you that some 200,000 + of Kosovo's Serbs, Jews, Roma and Gorani are currently refugees in central Serbia because they are unable to go back to their homesteads in fear of their lives from vengeful Albanian hate mobs and those ethnic minorities that are remaining (who live in barbed war ghettoes guarded 24/7 by KFOR troops) run the gantlet of venturing into Albanian populated areas at risk of pain or death for doing the things that many of us take for granted, i.e. shopping, going to church for worship and visiting the often desecrated graves of their loved ones or visiting relatives not to mention the hundreds of Serbs who are still missing after being abducted and murdered for their internal organs.

...and speaking of corruption, just dont go there. Hash and Haradinaj have enough rope to hang themselves. The corruption and human rights abuses of Slovakia and Romania pale into comparison to what the fascist kleptocrats in Pristina have inflicted on the very people that they seek to represent. The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.

Oh the infamy, the infamy!”


Again, Slovakia is the worst example of EU concerning the human rights. Minorities there are still second class citizens let alone roma people. You and other lunatics can refer to the daily news about that. As for Romania I cannot find to describe as I have been there several times. Corruption is in its highest level right in the face of EU. It is the country that no one wants to visit twice for obvious reasons (ask Italians for more). The idea was that both countries are not to be taken as a model of prosperity and WONT BE TAKEN at any costs.
Kosovo had before war at most 10 % serbs & other minorities which means around 200K while more than 130k are still there. How do you calculate 200k and more left Kosovo!!!! Have you listen to RTS which some days ago apologized for its propaganda or you remember the days of Kosovo e nase…..You associate the same group of people who were cleansed from Nazis with them who left Kosovo. No, gorani, serb, roma has been target unless they participated in crimes against Albanian population which lost more than 12k. The majority of them left with criminal Serbian army and that is why they cannot be back in Kosovo. As for Jews clean your dirty mind before you speaks propaganda. You are crying daily here how serbs were killed during wwII but Kosovo’s must forget the beloved one who were killed in barbaric ways from barbars. You reap what you sow.
You are accusing me for moral!!! I cannot be always 100% right but it is sure 100% that I have much more moral than any Serbian diasporas internet warrior. For the simple reason because my Serbian neighbors are still alive but my relatives are not. I am happy that you put on the same place Romania and Kosovo, state of 3y. How dare to compare the corruption in such conditions by considering the problems Kosovo has had!!!! You have tried to put a rope against H. Thaci and R. Haradinaj several times but instead your war criminals still remain the champions of prison populations so far.
“The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.”
Emotion of guilt for what pathetic man!!! What you call political masters are feeding your fellows in Serbia and they are the same who sent you tons of bombs in order to consider your emotions towards your citizens brutally victimized. It is enough for me to see your moral and compassion here with you childish arguments by forgetting that the same moral & and compassion are expressing all neighbors around Serbia.

KU

pre 12 godina

By artificially creating connections and similarities between Kosovo and its own minority question Slovakia is tying the solution to its problem to the solution of Serbia's problem. It forgets that the two questions are not the same. The same mistake Spain committed. Thus, when Serbia lost at the ICJ, so did Slovakia and Spain. Spain apparently learned from that mistake, the next day they said the Basque question and Kosovo are not similar (duh!!). Slovakia's foreign policy is still done by Jeremic instead.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.

Korrik Sofalia

pre 12 godina

First: I am surprised how B92 uncritically changed to a simple cheerleader of the Serbian politics of hiding its national shame: Serbia lost Kosovo There is truly much to criticize on the government of Kosovo, but there was good reason for the very normal people to escape from Serbia's state backed suppression by seceding from Serbia. Serbia destroyed many individuals and their ordinary aspiration, like education and employment. And many Serbs in Kosovo, maybe partially without intention, profited from there supreme status - like the whites in South Africa did.
Second: I am surprised about these comments saying Albanians wouldn't be welcome in western Europe. Its true, there is a bad image - but with the exception of Slovenia and Czechia, Slaves likewise suffer from a very bad reputation, in particular Serbs and Russians. However for those people the status of Kosovo is not on the agenda - criminals from all sides are very efficient in doing business together. Finally more and more people also in Serbia admit the systematic failure of Serbia and they know that religious or mythological arguments are all over the world only pretended and used to hide material truths: Serbia is not interested in Kosovo as the root of its existence ... its an political economical power game. Serbia was the perpetrator, and has lost. Metohija is Dukagjin now. And what it was before, you can read in the manipulated history books from all sides. One day maybe we will listen to "the dream" of Martin Luther King!

ivan

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08)

Slovakia doesn't care about Serbia. Slovakia has its own problem (Kosovo). Slovakia has 2 million Hungarians who want to join Hungary.

icj1

pre 12 godina

A good solution. Since Kosovo is not a real state, it won't be represented with state symbols. Simple. Easy. Reasonable. Just like with the UN mettings in New York: Kosovo officials attend there as 'guests'. I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit.
(Top, 25 May 2011 20:27)


I fully agree... If Kosovo is happy to go thinking that it is going as a state and Serbia is happy to go thinking that Kosovo is not coming as a state, than everybody is happy and case closed.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

This is absolutely non sense. Kosovo will very likely participate as a fully fledged state with all necessary state symbols. USA will guarantee that Kosovo participates as a state.

As per Slovakia and Romania they are extremely insignificant to be heeded. Serbia needs to pay attention to what happen in world and regional summits as this Kosovo participation in important summits will very likely not be the last one.

Can Serbia live isolated along with Slovakia and Romania?

Maybe YES, I dont know!

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Kosovo will partecipate without flags or other symbols because not all the EU countries recognize their state..Romania will participate because they are the new best Us friends in SEE and Obama will deploy the missiles there ...Slovakia will partecipate because it's in their best interest during these periods of crisis... Serbia will do what it wants...

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

It is one of the few occasions when I agree with President of my country ROMANIA, Traian Basescu:"As the organisers decided to ivite an entity that is not recognised as a state by our country, the president of Romania, Traian Basescu, will not participate in the event," said a presidential spokesman to Romanian press agencies."Honor to the EU countries who have not recognized Kosovo muslim sting:CYPRUS, GREECE, ROMANIA, SLOVAKIA and SPAIN.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Mirel from Albania

Slovakia has nothing against Albanians but they have their own problems/reasons not to recognise Kosovo for now but they have to sooner or later.

I see they decided not to put names/flags of any country in this meeting that's fine with me, it's still the meeting of leaders/presidents so Kosovo is equal amongs them because they did not send me instead but our President.

Ron

pre 12 godina

About Kosovo joining EU.

Even if there is a mutual agreed deal for independence of the Serbian province of Kosovo tomorrow.... even then I think it would take at least 15 years before Kosovo could join EU. Corruption, unemployment, treatment of minorities (like Roma), ...

But it will take a very long time before Albania will join. Serbia I think will join within 10 years...

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

In the EU Lisbon Treaty were not mentioned Europe's Christian roots???!!!, in the name of "positive discrimination" and not to "disturb" packs of immigrants and especially of their "sensitivity" .It is time for us Europeans and especially political leaders of the 27 EU countries aware of the danger of muslim intolerance.And we know well this, because we have in Europe a little muslim majority state named Albania =who is as well as member NATO!!!!! and 2 two former Yugoslav provinces,Bosnia with one-third of the inhabitants muslim and Kosovo; muslims want to destroy all traces of Christians . Radical islam is the fact :intolerance, terror, revenge....especially against Christianity. That saw all in Egypt earlier this year, when 30 Coptic Christians were killed in Alexandria
- Honor to the EU countries who have not recognized Kosovo muslim sting:CYPRUS, GREECE, ROMANIA, SLOVAKIA and SPAIN.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

This article fails to inform whether they are stripping all state symbols ?

If that's the case than it will be a meeting in equal footing.....



Thanks,

icj1

pre 12 godina

Serbia, Bosnia, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Spain, Russia and more than 100 countries will never recognize ''Kosova'' untill we get new UN resolution which will be suported by both albanians and serbs.
(DX, 25 May 2011 19:56)

Who said that ? I could not find more than 20 countries who have said they will not recognize Kosovo and even less who have used the word "never". Of course, I apologize if you have been given the powers by those 100+ countries to declare on their behalf today that they will never recognize Kosovo.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57 - did you by any chance see the article in yesterday's Blic on the breakdown of crimes committed last year in Austria? 46% of crimes committed by persons from the Western Balkans last year were committed by Serbs, 1% by Albanians. Even if you claim that all the crimes attributed to Serbs were actually committed by Albanians, there are only about as many Albanians in Kosovo + Serbia as there are in all of Albania - what would account for Albanians from Albania being so much less likely to commit crimes than those living in what you regard as Serbia?
(Amer, 26 May 2011 04:58)

The reason for that is that there are many Serbs in Austria, but few Austrians, If theres 100 Serbs and 1 Albanian, of course there are going to be more Serbian crimes then Albanian ones.

Top

pre 12 godina

"To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT. "
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)

I think so, too. Nobody will try to relocate Kosovo to Africa, though the habits, attitude and archaic clan structures of the population and the corrupt and criminal leaders and political parties would fit much better there that to a Europe with its standards and democratic values.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Question for the organisers:

"Is Kosovo a state?"

If yes: then use normal state symbols. Just like you would do in the case of Nigeria, France or Australia.

If not: do not use (non-existent) state symbols.

Come on, it is not so hard!

Amer

pre 12 godina

Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57 - did you by any chance see the article in yesterday's Blic on the breakdown of crimes committed last year in Austria? 46% of crimes committed by persons from the Western Balkans last year were committed by Serbs, 1% by Albanians. Even if you claim that all the crimes attributed to Serbs were actually committed by Albanians, there are only about as many Albanians in Kosovo + Serbia as there are in all of Albania - what would account for Albanians from Albania being so much less likely to commit crimes than those living in what you regard as Serbia?

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is Serbia! The 5 EU countries can block "Kosovo" from joining the EU or any other international summit/organization. o much fro being "Independent and Sovereign". I told you thi all along! Serbia,Slovakia,Greece, Romania, Spain, and Cyprus will never allow "Kosovo" to join the EU as an independent state! Never! Get ready for status negotiations very soon after the temproary institutions in Pristina see that they are cornered.

Predator

pre 12 godina

"Excellent news. Like I said yesterday, having "Kosova" attend at the expense of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania isn't a smart idea. The narrow mindedness of this independence decision is costly to European unity."

At the expense of Serbia!!!! Of course, the expense would be at "international law" protectors which are burden to the Europe but still exist on the paper. However they will always find mechanisms to save the EU unity but where is Serbia??? Only backwards as always. While Kosovo would be present, doesn't matter how it is represented, Serbia wont be.

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

To the albanians who have commented here about ROMANIA:
ROMANIA is the seventh EU country as size and population, as well as one of the leading NATO members in Europe.. Especially we in Central and Eastern European countries, we understand well the message of the Pope JOHN PAUL "not afraid". Because at our skin has experienced a communist system killer, who deny CHRIST .For example, my country Romania has never had a Republican tradition, republic was imposed at Yalta in 1945 and as well as by Soviet tanks. Royal Romania was a respected and prosperous country and the Romanian state regressed with the Bolshevik Red Plague,terror imposed by stalin and as well as Roosevelt and Churchill's acceptance, in all countries of Central and Eastern Europe.As well as Romania was Poland , Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia etc.What is Albania in the history of the Europe, except so-called Illyrian descent?Is mafia, drugs, intolerance… and destruction of Orthodox monasteries in Kosovo.Kosovo is Serbia .
PS.In interwar Romania, former Yugoslavia and former Czechoslovakia allied to the "Little Entente" and so will always be.

The Count of Kosova

pre 12 godina

I can only thank Romania and Slovakia for their principled stance. Europe is split and KiM Albanians find this amusing.
(Zoran, 25 May 2011 10:35)

Zoran,

It is Serbia that is split and not Europe. Holland and other countries, including the USA, will make sure Serbia never becomes a member of the EU unless Serbia captures all its War Criminals and recognizes Kosova. If you don't believe me, just watch Obama snub Tadic at the meeting in Poland. As for Romania and Slovakia, they are even in worse shape financially than Greece.

Dodosour

pre 12 godina

"No way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.
(Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57)"

Yesterday an apology for criminal propaganda, and today a criminal propaganda.

Well done b92

And well done stuff, the more you huff the the more you puff.

Sad day that "real" commentators are anonymous ;)

funny

pre 12 godina

o way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.
(Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57)
Funny you already speak as if you are European, Just because there is a visa waiver, does not mean you have joined the club. You will continue to get your incentives to become a member but there is a lot to do before you go through the door and you as well as all the other deniers know what that is.

KU

pre 12 godina

"I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit."
(Top, 25 May 2011 20:27)

I think the same but apparently he is still not going. Maybe he knows something about the summit you and I don't know :). For example, Obama or the Polish might ask him to take the usual picture with the heads of state with Kosovo's president in it. Or they might not even ask him directly, they might just say: "gather around everybody, let's take a picture". after all, they love to be sneaky and go behind Serbia's back, as Dacic said. That would put him in a hell of a situation torn between one choice and the other. can you imagine Tadic singing "should I stay or should I go" in his mind? Better to avoid any embarrassing situations and postpone any decisions, Serbian politicians are good at that and nobody will ever force them to make any, not even photographers. I hope he will go though, he looks good on pictures.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

It looks like Serbia and Romania have boycoted the meeting.What about Slovakia?
Greetings to Poland who didn't bow to pressure of Romania,Slovakia and Serbia.
@Romanian warrior.
We also had the worst communist regime in East Europe.
Romania and Albania were very close allies.Romania were one the most active countries to support Albanian independence,when Serbia and Greece were against it.Romanian and albanians fought turks for decades,Unfortunately last several years Romania has become one of the most anti albanian country in EU.I am half vlah and I am ashamed that Romania,is punishing albanians every time they have a chanse.Between 7 million albanians and 8 million serbs,Romania has choosen serbs.I think they forget that unlike romanians who are anti-russian,sebs are pro russian,and in a Russia-Romania conflict Serbia will stay with Russia and Albania will support Romania.
Anyway,we vlahs in Albania are very dissapointed with Romania.Romania forget that albanians have been always in there side.Look ate Greece for example,Serbia was the first country to recognise FYROM as Macedonia.Serbia will be the fisrt country to backstabb Romania when they don't need you.
Anyway,Thank you USA,Poland and 22 most powerful countries of EU!
Shame on you Romania,Slovakia,Greece,Cyprus and Spain!

icj1

pre 12 godina

I was right again. All this puts Dacic's statements on the division of KiM into perspective: as a ruse to confuse & demoralize our enemies as I said all along, just check the archives.
(highduke, 25 May 2011 17:12)

yeah, and I said yeasterday to a friend of mine that it was a very cold day and that was a ruse to confuse and demoralize enemies and as a result two students did not pass the exam... So I met my friend again today and I said to her: "I told you" ... :)

Dude do you put your mind in motion to think about the logic for going from A to B to C ? I.e. what is the logical nexus ? What is the causal relationship ? Or, are you flying high ?

Daniel

pre 12 godina

Two irrelevant countries! The only "power" is the veto right in the EU.
(EA, 25 May 2011 12:29)

Another bright comment from this factory of foolishness. Imagine someone from a country that is as legitimate as Lilliput (Kosovo) claiming that two legitimate countries are irrelevant. Go figure. The funny thing is that your "legitimate" country Kosovo isn't going to be represented as a legitimate state because the two illegitimate countries don't want Kosovo to be represented as a parallel state. How do you account for that EA?

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

@ Romanian warrior
I am orthodox christian,but I feel like brothers with all albanians muslim,catholic and others in Kosova and everywhere where albanians live.My mother is half vlah half albanian, and my father is orthodox albanian(not greek) so I know about the Romania.
Albanians vlahs have given e great contribution in Albanian Renaissance and fought against turks,greeks,serbs,italians and germans along with albanians.I am just surpprised that Romania is using Kosova against Hungary.Romania before IJC verdict said that it will rescpect the verditc,but when the verdict was pro albanians, they along with slovakians, changed their stance.If you hate hungarians,go ahead and fight with them,but don't use albanians.It is not fair game!
Btw The religion of albanians is albanism!

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

@Mirel from ALBANIA

Sorry, what are you now, Mirel?Christian?Muslim?If you are half ROMANIAN-vlach or AROMAN-you need to know more about ROMANIA. Albania don't try to assimilate you as Albanians and not MacedoRomanians or vlachs???Toate cele bune.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Zoran
Europe can be split as much as they want we are happy that we got America and yes we are amused. Who cares what Romania and Slovakia have to say nobody listen to them in Europe expect Serbia.

Demi

pre 12 godina

This also showes wich countrys are unfaithful to their union EU and more faithful to Russia. Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys. Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?

ben

pre 12 godina

To follow this perverted logic then all other states should boycott the gathering as they do recognize Kosova and leave Obama with Slovakia, Serbia and Romania in a local chat...

These bulls act in this way: or you have Kosova or you don't have Rumania and Slovakia.

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.

The Brit

pre 12 godina

This represents an important step forward - it shoots a real hole in the "we'll agree to disagree, but the real EU policy is recognition" line being peddled by the Commission. Much respect to Romania and Slovakia for their principled stand. Pity the Greeks couldn't have walked it like they talk it, but I suppose you have less space for diplomatic manoeuvre when you're bankrupt,

Blero

pre 12 godina

Romania and Slovakia do not recognize Kosovo and all other central and eastern European contries do not recognize Serbia.Is that what your president said.

Predator

pre 12 godina

“I cannot believe that you said that with a straight face. You speak of human rights violation and corruption, now before you lambast Slovakia and Romania on both those ocunts, I would like to remind you that some 200,000 + of Kosovo's Serbs, Jews, Roma and Gorani are currently refugees in central Serbia because they are unable to go back to their homesteads in fear of their lives from vengeful Albanian hate mobs and those ethnic minorities that are remaining (who live in barbed war ghettoes guarded 24/7 by KFOR troops) run the gantlet of venturing into Albanian populated areas at risk of pain or death for doing the things that many of us take for granted, i.e. shopping, going to church for worship and visiting the often desecrated graves of their loved ones or visiting relatives not to mention the hundreds of Serbs who are still missing after being abducted and murdered for their internal organs.

...and speaking of corruption, just dont go there. Hash and Haradinaj have enough rope to hang themselves. The corruption and human rights abuses of Slovakia and Romania pale into comparison to what the fascist kleptocrats in Pristina have inflicted on the very people that they seek to represent. The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.

Oh the infamy, the infamy!”


Again, Slovakia is the worst example of EU concerning the human rights. Minorities there are still second class citizens let alone roma people. You and other lunatics can refer to the daily news about that. As for Romania I cannot find to describe as I have been there several times. Corruption is in its highest level right in the face of EU. It is the country that no one wants to visit twice for obvious reasons (ask Italians for more). The idea was that both countries are not to be taken as a model of prosperity and WONT BE TAKEN at any costs.
Kosovo had before war at most 10 % serbs & other minorities which means around 200K while more than 130k are still there. How do you calculate 200k and more left Kosovo!!!! Have you listen to RTS which some days ago apologized for its propaganda or you remember the days of Kosovo e nase…..You associate the same group of people who were cleansed from Nazis with them who left Kosovo. No, gorani, serb, roma has been target unless they participated in crimes against Albanian population which lost more than 12k. The majority of them left with criminal Serbian army and that is why they cannot be back in Kosovo. As for Jews clean your dirty mind before you speaks propaganda. You are crying daily here how serbs were killed during wwII but Kosovo’s must forget the beloved one who were killed in barbaric ways from barbars. You reap what you sow.
You are accusing me for moral!!! I cannot be always 100% right but it is sure 100% that I have much more moral than any Serbian diasporas internet warrior. For the simple reason because my Serbian neighbors are still alive but my relatives are not. I am happy that you put on the same place Romania and Kosovo, state of 3y. How dare to compare the corruption in such conditions by considering the problems Kosovo has had!!!! You have tried to put a rope against H. Thaci and R. Haradinaj several times but instead your war criminals still remain the champions of prison populations so far.
“The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.”
Emotion of guilt for what pathetic man!!! What you call political masters are feeding your fellows in Serbia and they are the same who sent you tons of bombs in order to consider your emotions towards your citizens brutally victimized. It is enough for me to see your moral and compassion here with you childish arguments by forgetting that the same moral & and compassion are expressing all neighbors around Serbia.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

Oh my, I read it somewhere in our media Slovakia changed the position and the Slovak President would take part in the same meeting with Kosovo President and it's good maybe another opportunity for the Slovak President to steal more pens. Sorry Zoran, it seems you are only left with Romania for now.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

The UDD has split Europe. It has cause divisions where division did not exist. Prior to the UDD there was an agreement in place with the UN where all sides could be represented but now there is no such agreement. We had an agreement on border control, taxes, telecommunications and so on but now there is further division and after 3 years the situation keeps getting worse.

Again the US and EU have messed up in the Balkans. We are people who are willing to negotiate but the empire thinks they should just tell us what to. It is obvious they have a lack of understanding of the region as they keep repeating the same mistakes.

I can only thank Romania and Slovakia for their principled stance. Europe is split and KiM Albanians find this amusing.

Predator

pre 12 godina

The explanation is simply dear commentators. Slovakia was busy with building the walls to isolate Roma peoples and also stripping the citizenship Hungarians. While Romania is taking care of corrupted officials and politicians who are being arrested right some days before such events. By the way there are others who decide on how to push Kosovo on its right way ahead. We respect all countries attitudes but please Kosovo stay away from Slovakia and Romania which are two worst models of EU, one for human rights violation and one for corruption. Danke schön!

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

This is absolutely non sense. Kosovo will very likely participate as a fully fledged state with all necessary state symbols. USA will guarantee that Kosovo participates as a state.

As per Slovakia and Romania they are extremely insignificant to be heeded. Serbia needs to pay attention to what happen in world and regional summits as this Kosovo participation in important summits will very likely not be the last one.

Can Serbia live isolated along with Slovakia and Romania?

Maybe YES, I dont know!

ivan

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08)

Slovakia doesn't care about Serbia. Slovakia has its own problem (Kosovo). Slovakia has 2 million Hungarians who want to join Hungary.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Seeing what Slovakia is doing against albanians,by fighting them every case thay have.What goes around comes around.
I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08) It dose not have much to do with Albanians or Kosovo ,Slovaks position. It has much to do with Hungary and the triple pact alliance of Serbia ,Slovakia and Romania against Hungary and their fear of it. Kosovo is a excuse being side swiped by the other two Romanian and Slovakia fear of Hungarian demand of return of its borders and people that the 3 countrys stold from Hungary.

PEN

pre 12 godina

It stretches credibility beyond the absurd to assume that Polish officials would volutarily rather have Kosovo Albanians attending this meeting, than the head's of three European countries who are now boycotting it. What on earth do the Albanians from Pristina have that can possibly contribute to this summit. Their economic stability and business prowess. The Yanks and the Poles must think we're all fools. The Americans are desperate to legitimise their Kosovo project no matter how daft it looks to the rest of the world.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)
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Spain won't be attending and if you studied geography you may understand why.

Anyway, as printed by the Germans:

"In truth, it's the Americans who organized this summit, they put the guest list together," Lewicki said. "Kosovo was invited at the express request of the US. So the boycott doesn't really hurt us, it's really a matter for US politics."

Check -> http://tinyurl.com/42urgw7

The US causing trouble once again.

TP

pre 12 godina

Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU...
(Demi)

There speaks the true voice of 'democracy' from the impoverished periphery of the New World Order.

The tail wags the dog only for as long as the dog wishes it.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

This article fails to inform whether they are stripping all state symbols ?

If that's the case than it will be a meeting in equal footing.....



Thanks,

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Mirel from Albania

Slovakia has nothing against Albanians but they have their own problems/reasons not to recognise Kosovo for now but they have to sooner or later.

I see they decided not to put names/flags of any country in this meeting that's fine with me, it's still the meeting of leaders/presidents so Kosovo is equal amongs them because they did not send me instead but our President.

Hinari

pre 12 godina

"This also showes wich countrys are unfaithful to their union EU and more faithful to Russia. Slovakia and Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys. Why dident, Greece,Cyprys and Spain boycott the meeting ?
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)"

Demi, the summit is called: "The summit of Presidents from Central and South-East Europe".
Spain in Eastern Europe? Cyprus?
Maybe Greece was invited, but if they are invited and don't boycott is because of their current economical situation ... they depend on Germany mainly for now. That doesn't mean they agree with Kosovo status. Romania and Slovakia don't have such serious economical problems ... Even if they boycott the meeting, be sure that they'll transmit their messages out there ...
Strange that you say Romania/Slovakia are faithful to Russia ...:)), since the US just announced that it will deploy in Romania a main part of the European missile shield, making Russia angry over Romania .
Before issuing statements, check before what you're saying . Albania/Kosovo is having a very little importance for anyone in Europe for now, don't overestimate you ... just wait a couple of years and let's talk then about Germany/France current stance ... The time have passed.

For you having the expected success, you should had from the start 100% acceptance. You didn't have it. Now it's the reversal thing, just open you eyes.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Romania should be punished for their behavour as they work against the majority EU countrys.
(Demi, 25 May 2011 12:06)
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Do you think the UN should punish the 70 odd countries that have recognised "Kosova" considering they work against the majority of the world?

KU

pre 12 godina

By artificially creating connections and similarities between Kosovo and its own minority question Slovakia is tying the solution to its problem to the solution of Serbia's problem. It forgets that the two questions are not the same. The same mistake Spain committed. Thus, when Serbia lost at the ICJ, so did Slovakia and Spain. Spain apparently learned from that mistake, the next day they said the Basque question and Kosovo are not similar (duh!!). Slovakia's foreign policy is still done by Jeremic instead.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@mirel from albania: come on, my friend, it has nothing to do with hatred against the Albanians at all. Kosovo is just and simply not a state, and therefore has nothing to contribute at this summit.

the Slovakians simply do not recognize the foreign-supported freak creation on serbian territory as a state. that´s all.

you are free to construct any sort of conspiracy-theory or to claim that it is hate-driven by the Slovakians, but if you look at it rationally, it is simply and naturally that the Slovakians threat to stay away.

get over it, dude, KiM is serbian territory. you just haven´t realized it yet.

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

HAHAHAHA, Once again, kosovo is being treated like a transgender trying to crash a frat party. What do you expect when a minor employee of the us state dept become the us ambassador there and he chooses kosovo's pseudo-president based on a 5 minute meeting with her highness hillary. It will be interesting to see if boris clooney the weasel attends this freak show. I bet the Israeli PM wishes he had a reason to boycott meetings with the annointed one.

Predator

pre 12 godina

"Excellent news. Like I said yesterday, having "Kosova" attend at the expense of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania isn't a smart idea. The narrow mindedness of this independence decision is costly to European unity."

At the expense of Serbia!!!! Of course, the expense would be at "international law" protectors which are burden to the Europe but still exist on the paper. However they will always find mechanisms to save the EU unity but where is Serbia??? Only backwards as always. While Kosovo would be present, doesn't matter how it is represented, Serbia wont be.

Ratko

pre 12 godina

Mirel said, "I just don't understand this hate that slovakians have toward albanians.I don't remember any albanian having problems with slovakians.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 May 2011 16:08) "

Well Mirel I'll help you out with this one. Maybe it's because you are a bunch of land grabbing bandits! The most intolerant people in all of europe!

DX

pre 12 godina

Serbia, Bosnia, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Spain, Russia and more than 100 countries will never recognize ''Kosova'' untill we get new UN resolution which will be suported by both albanians and serbs. Serbia could recognize Kosovo, but albanians dont even want to talk about problems of serbs in Kosovo, and not only serbs but other minorities in North that dont want to be controled by albanians.

Top

pre 12 godina

A good solution. Since Kosovo is not a real state, it won't be represented with state symbols. Simple. Easy. Reasonable. Just like with the UN mettings in New York: Kosovo officials attend there as 'guests'. I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

We respect all countries attitudes but please Kosovo stay away from Slovakia and Romania which are two worst models of EU, one for human rights violation and one for corruption. Danke schön!
(Predator, 25 May 2011 12:47)

I cannot believe that you said that with a straight face. You speak of human rights violation and corruption, now before you lambast Slovakia and Romania on both those ocunts, I would like to remind you that some 200,000 + of Kosovo's Serbs, Jews, Roma and Gorani are currently refugees in central Serbia because they are unable to go back to their homesteads in fear of their lives from vengeful Albanian hate mobs and those ethnic minorities that are remaining (who live in barbed war ghettoes guarded 24/7 by KFOR troops) run the gantlet of venturing into Albanian populated areas at risk of pain or death for doing the things that many of us take for granted, i.e. shopping, going to church for worship and visiting the often desecrated graves of their loved ones or visiting relatives not to mention the hundreds of Serbs who are still missing after being abducted and murdered for their internal organs.

...and speaking of corruption, just dont go there. Hash and Haradinaj have enough rope to hang themselves. The corruption and human rights abuses of Slovakia and Romania pale into comparison to what the fascist kleptocrats in Pristina have inflicted on the very people that they seek to represent. The sheer brass neck of you, that you can sit there and write that rubbish without expressing any emotion of guilt and remorse that your poliical masters did actually do wrong. Your view is so typical of the extremist side here - we have done no wrong so therefore we are perfect, speaks volumes of your lack of any moral compass or compassion towards dealing with your fellow human beings.

Oh the infamy, the infamy!

The Count of Kosova

pre 12 godina

I can only thank Romania and Slovakia for their principled stance. Europe is split and KiM Albanians find this amusing.
(Zoran, 25 May 2011 10:35)

Zoran,

It is Serbia that is split and not Europe. Holland and other countries, including the USA, will make sure Serbia never becomes a member of the EU unless Serbia captures all its War Criminals and recognizes Kosova. If you don't believe me, just watch Obama snub Tadic at the meeting in Poland. As for Romania and Slovakia, they are even in worse shape financially than Greece.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Organizers drop idea to have Kosovo with "state symbols"
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Excellent news. Like I said yesterday, having "Kosova" attend at the expense of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania isn't a smart idea. The narrow mindedness of this independence decision is costly to European unity.

I'm glad they have realised the reality of the situation and are making appropriate adjustments. Whoever said that Slovakia and Romania would attend yesterday seem to be right but probably not as they envisioned.

The EU as a body does not recognise "Kosova".

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)

Ben, leave our horned friends out of this. They produce copious amount of good prime beef which we all can enjoy.

On the otherhand, Hash & co. can keep on producing the copious amounts of bulls**t that they are world renowned for.

lids

pre 12 godina

Why do albanians love pain-being pushed in a back like a hired help cannot be good for already marked welfare recipients..
It`s not like EU does not know albanians have nothing to contribute except misery,unless they think they are doing them some favor by feeding few of them that day..
Strange...

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is Serbia! The 5 EU countries can block "Kosovo" from joining the EU or any other international summit/organization. o much fro being "Independent and Sovereign". I told you thi all along! Serbia,Slovakia,Greece, Romania, Spain, and Cyprus will never allow "Kosovo" to join the EU as an independent state! Never! Get ready for status negotiations very soon after the temproary institutions in Pristina see that they are cornered.

Vuk

pre 12 godina

(Creative Rationality, 25 May 2011 15:56)

According to you Serbia, Slovakia and Romania are insignificant? I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself, I don't recall any country being insignificant least of all these three countries which are far more significant then a quasi-Americo-Albanian state created for imperialistic goals which has turned into a narco-state with very little future or anything to offer the world apart from crime.

Staff

pre 12 godina

To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT.
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)
No way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.

highduke

pre 12 godina

I was right again. All this puts Dacic's statements on the division of KiM into perspective: as a ruse to confuse & demoralize our enemies as I said all along, just check the archives. Thanx to our Slavic & Orthodox brothers Slovakia & Romania but Poland needs to learn from them how to treat us, their kin.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I was right again. All this puts Dacic's statements on the division of KiM into perspective: as a ruse to confuse & demoralize our enemies as I said all along, just check the archives.
(highduke, 25 May 2011 17:12)

yeah, and I said yeasterday to a friend of mine that it was a very cold day and that was a ruse to confuse and demoralize enemies and as a result two students did not pass the exam... So I met my friend again today and I said to her: "I told you" ... :)

Dude do you put your mind in motion to think about the logic for going from A to B to C ? I.e. what is the logical nexus ? What is the causal relationship ? Or, are you flying high ?

Ron

pre 12 godina

Question for the organisers:

"Is Kosovo a state?"

If yes: then use normal state symbols. Just like you would do in the case of Nigeria, France or Australia.

If not: do not use (non-existent) state symbols.

Come on, it is not so hard!

Dodosour

pre 12 godina

"No way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.
(Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57)"

Yesterday an apology for criminal propaganda, and today a criminal propaganda.

Well done b92

And well done stuff, the more you huff the the more you puff.

Sad day that "real" commentators are anonymous ;)

Aleks

pre 12 godina

Slovakia and Romania are insignificant compared to the mighty Illyrian Empire, conquerers of the Balkans and the entire world, even if they forgot to write it down (along with everybody else)!

Speaking of empires, is everyone else watching Europe scuttle around Emperor Obama to pay tribute in the hope of being bestowed favor? Apparently this is the 'right kind' of humiliation because they choose to do it rather than being forced to do it. Exit stage left...

Meeting Canceled

pre 12 godina

After a few more games of ping-pong and after O'Obama locates his roots in Ireland and realizes that Joplin is in Missouri and that Missouri is the "show me state", maybe he'll drop by the meeting on the 27th for a few pats on the head and "you are the good guys" words and a photo-op, or cancel the meeting altogether and high-tail it back to the White House before the Republicans repossess that too.

icj1

pre 12 godina

A good solution. Since Kosovo is not a real state, it won't be represented with state symbols. Simple. Easy. Reasonable. Just like with the UN mettings in New York: Kosovo officials attend there as 'guests'. I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit.
(Top, 25 May 2011 20:27)


I fully agree... If Kosovo is happy to go thinking that it is going as a state and Serbia is happy to go thinking that Kosovo is not coming as a state, than everybody is happy and case closed.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57 - did you by any chance see the article in yesterday's Blic on the breakdown of crimes committed last year in Austria? 46% of crimes committed by persons from the Western Balkans last year were committed by Serbs, 1% by Albanians. Even if you claim that all the crimes attributed to Serbs were actually committed by Albanians, there are only about as many Albanians in Kosovo + Serbia as there are in all of Albania - what would account for Albanians from Albania being so much less likely to commit crimes than those living in what you regard as Serbia?
(Amer, 26 May 2011 04:58)

The reason for that is that there are many Serbs in Austria, but few Austrians, If theres 100 Serbs and 1 Albanian, of course there are going to be more Serbian crimes then Albanian ones.

Korrik Sofalia

pre 12 godina

First: I am surprised how B92 uncritically changed to a simple cheerleader of the Serbian politics of hiding its national shame: Serbia lost Kosovo There is truly much to criticize on the government of Kosovo, but there was good reason for the very normal people to escape from Serbia's state backed suppression by seceding from Serbia. Serbia destroyed many individuals and their ordinary aspiration, like education and employment. And many Serbs in Kosovo, maybe partially without intention, profited from there supreme status - like the whites in South Africa did.
Second: I am surprised about these comments saying Albanians wouldn't be welcome in western Europe. Its true, there is a bad image - but with the exception of Slovenia and Czechia, Slaves likewise suffer from a very bad reputation, in particular Serbs and Russians. However for those people the status of Kosovo is not on the agenda - criminals from all sides are very efficient in doing business together. Finally more and more people also in Serbia admit the systematic failure of Serbia and they know that religious or mythological arguments are all over the world only pretended and used to hide material truths: Serbia is not interested in Kosovo as the root of its existence ... its an political economical power game. Serbia was the perpetrator, and has lost. Metohija is Dukagjin now. And what it was before, you can read in the manipulated history books from all sides. One day maybe we will listen to "the dream" of Martin Luther King!

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Kosovo will partecipate without flags or other symbols because not all the EU countries recognize their state..Romania will participate because they are the new best Us friends in SEE and Obama will deploy the missiles there ...Slovakia will partecipate because it's in their best interest during these periods of crisis... Serbia will do what it wants...

Mike

pre 12 godina

I'm glad to see a compromise was reached in such a short period of time. Now it remains to be seen whether

a) Tadic will come
b) Jahjaga will now be forced to boycott

Whatever the case, the decision to include Kosovo without any state symbols or the ability to vote on any resolutions is an optimal solution since not every state recognizes its independence but is still a win-win for all sides in terms of getting full representation. Slovakia, Romania, and Serbia are more important to this regional conference than Pristina, and I applaud the pragmatism between Bratislava and Warsaw in reaching an agreed upon decision.

KU

pre 12 godina

"I think with this solution, there's no reason for Tadic not to go to this summit."
(Top, 25 May 2011 20:27)

I think the same but apparently he is still not going. Maybe he knows something about the summit you and I don't know :). For example, Obama or the Polish might ask him to take the usual picture with the heads of state with Kosovo's president in it. Or they might not even ask him directly, they might just say: "gather around everybody, let's take a picture". after all, they love to be sneaky and go behind Serbia's back, as Dacic said. That would put him in a hell of a situation torn between one choice and the other. can you imagine Tadic singing "should I stay or should I go" in his mind? Better to avoid any embarrassing situations and postpone any decisions, Serbian politicians are good at that and nobody will ever force them to make any, not even photographers. I hope he will go though, he looks good on pictures.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Serbia, Bosnia, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Spain, Russia and more than 100 countries will never recognize ''Kosova'' untill we get new UN resolution which will be suported by both albanians and serbs.
(DX, 25 May 2011 19:56)

Who said that ? I could not find more than 20 countries who have said they will not recognize Kosovo and even less who have used the word "never". Of course, I apologize if you have been given the powers by those 100+ countries to declare on their behalf today that they will never recognize Kosovo.

Ron

pre 12 godina

About Kosovo joining EU.

Even if there is a mutual agreed deal for independence of the Serbian province of Kosovo tomorrow.... even then I think it would take at least 15 years before Kosovo could join EU. Corruption, unemployment, treatment of minorities (like Roma), ...

But it will take a very long time before Albania will join. Serbia I think will join within 10 years...

Amer

pre 12 godina

Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57 - did you by any chance see the article in yesterday's Blic on the breakdown of crimes committed last year in Austria? 46% of crimes committed by persons from the Western Balkans last year were committed by Serbs, 1% by Albanians. Even if you claim that all the crimes attributed to Serbs were actually committed by Albanians, there are only about as many Albanians in Kosovo + Serbia as there are in all of Albania - what would account for Albanians from Albania being so much less likely to commit crimes than those living in what you regard as Serbia?

funny

pre 12 godina

o way Sir. You are not welcome in Europe. You are totally different from the rest of us in the EU. You are considered trouble makers in all of EU. If you dont know this, please ask around and ask relatives in Europe, especially Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, Germany and Belgium. Most of them really dislike you. I am 100% sure that no one, and I repeat, no one living today will ever see Kosovo get country status. You simply can not get into the EU OR get Schengen visas ever because you are not recognized as a country. So stay out of Europe.
(Staff, 25 May 2011 21:57)
Funny you already speak as if you are European, Just because there is a visa waiver, does not mean you have joined the club. You will continue to get your incentives to become a member but there is a lot to do before you go through the door and you as well as all the other deniers know what that is.

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

It is one of the few occasions when I agree with President of my country ROMANIA, Traian Basescu:"As the organisers decided to ivite an entity that is not recognised as a state by our country, the president of Romania, Traian Basescu, will not participate in the event," said a presidential spokesman to Romanian press agencies."Honor to the EU countries who have not recognized Kosovo muslim sting:CYPRUS, GREECE, ROMANIA, SLOVAKIA and SPAIN.

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

In the EU Lisbon Treaty were not mentioned Europe's Christian roots???!!!, in the name of "positive discrimination" and not to "disturb" packs of immigrants and especially of their "sensitivity" .It is time for us Europeans and especially political leaders of the 27 EU countries aware of the danger of muslim intolerance.And we know well this, because we have in Europe a little muslim majority state named Albania =who is as well as member NATO!!!!! and 2 two former Yugoslav provinces,Bosnia with one-third of the inhabitants muslim and Kosovo; muslims want to destroy all traces of Christians . Radical islam is the fact :intolerance, terror, revenge....especially against Christianity. That saw all in Egypt earlier this year, when 30 Coptic Christians were killed in Alexandria
- Honor to the EU countries who have not recognized Kosovo muslim sting:CYPRUS, GREECE, ROMANIA, SLOVAKIA and SPAIN.

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

To the albanians who have commented here about ROMANIA:
ROMANIA is the seventh EU country as size and population, as well as one of the leading NATO members in Europe.. Especially we in Central and Eastern European countries, we understand well the message of the Pope JOHN PAUL "not afraid". Because at our skin has experienced a communist system killer, who deny CHRIST .For example, my country Romania has never had a Republican tradition, republic was imposed at Yalta in 1945 and as well as by Soviet tanks. Royal Romania was a respected and prosperous country and the Romanian state regressed with the Bolshevik Red Plague,terror imposed by stalin and as well as Roosevelt and Churchill's acceptance, in all countries of Central and Eastern Europe.As well as Romania was Poland , Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia etc.What is Albania in the history of the Europe, except so-called Illyrian descent?Is mafia, drugs, intolerance… and destruction of Orthodox monasteries in Kosovo.Kosovo is Serbia .
PS.In interwar Romania, former Yugoslavia and former Czechoslovakia allied to the "Little Entente" and so will always be.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

Two irrelevant countries! The only "power" is the veto right in the EU.
(EA, 25 May 2011 12:29)

Another bright comment from this factory of foolishness. Imagine someone from a country that is as legitimate as Lilliput (Kosovo) claiming that two legitimate countries are irrelevant. Go figure. The funny thing is that your "legitimate" country Kosovo isn't going to be represented as a legitimate state because the two illegitimate countries don't want Kosovo to be represented as a parallel state. How do you account for that EA?

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

It looks like Serbia and Romania have boycoted the meeting.What about Slovakia?
Greetings to Poland who didn't bow to pressure of Romania,Slovakia and Serbia.
@Romanian warrior.
We also had the worst communist regime in East Europe.
Romania and Albania were very close allies.Romania were one the most active countries to support Albanian independence,when Serbia and Greece were against it.Romanian and albanians fought turks for decades,Unfortunately last several years Romania has become one of the most anti albanian country in EU.I am half vlah and I am ashamed that Romania,is punishing albanians every time they have a chanse.Between 7 million albanians and 8 million serbs,Romania has choosen serbs.I think they forget that unlike romanians who are anti-russian,sebs are pro russian,and in a Russia-Romania conflict Serbia will stay with Russia and Albania will support Romania.
Anyway,we vlahs in Albania are very dissapointed with Romania.Romania forget that albanians have been always in there side.Look ate Greece for example,Serbia was the first country to recognise FYROM as Macedonia.Serbia will be the fisrt country to backstabb Romania when they don't need you.
Anyway,Thank you USA,Poland and 22 most powerful countries of EU!
Shame on you Romania,Slovakia,Greece,Cyprus and Spain!

Romanian Warrior

pre 12 godina

@Mirel from ALBANIA

Sorry, what are you now, Mirel?Christian?Muslim?If you are half ROMANIAN-vlach or AROMAN-you need to know more about ROMANIA. Albania don't try to assimilate you as Albanians and not MacedoRomanians or vlachs???Toate cele bune.

Top

pre 12 godina

"To all bulls in EU and world: KOSOVA is in EUROPE and will BE THERE FOREVER like it or NOT. "
(ben, 25 May 2011 15:22)

I think so, too. Nobody will try to relocate Kosovo to Africa, though the habits, attitude and archaic clan structures of the population and the corrupt and criminal leaders and political parties would fit much better there that to a Europe with its standards and democratic values.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

@ Romanian warrior
I am orthodox christian,but I feel like brothers with all albanians muslim,catholic and others in Kosova and everywhere where albanians live.My mother is half vlah half albanian, and my father is orthodox albanian(not greek) so I know about the Romania.
Albanians vlahs have given e great contribution in Albanian Renaissance and fought against turks,greeks,serbs,italians and germans along with albanians.I am just surpprised that Romania is using Kosova against Hungary.Romania before IJC verdict said that it will rescpect the verditc,but when the verdict was pro albanians, they along with slovakians, changed their stance.If you hate hungarians,go ahead and fight with them,but don't use albanians.It is not fair game!
Btw The religion of albanians is albanism!