The Managing Board of the Radio and Television of Serbia (RTS) apologized on Monday for "insults, slander and hate speech" it its in programs in the 1990.
Actually Danilo we now know that RTS didn't know they were going to be bombed. Wesley Clark claimed that CNN were supposed to leak the time and date, but instead invited Aleksandar Vucic to be interviewed from the RTS building just after the bombing raid.
And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? These supposedly "defensive" campaigns to protect Serbian minority populations from falling victim to Croatian and Muslim persecution sure looked a lot like offensive wars to the average Westerner.
Then Kosovo happened in 1999, and is it any wonder that people in the West were fully convinced of Serbian hegemony -- and of Serbian war crimes in the pursuit of that policy?
(Nenad, 24 May 2011 17:32)
--
The average westerner is fairly ignorant when it comes to the Balkans, especially those from the US. The propaganda from western sources was intense against Serbians and knowing the western arrogance I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting an apology for all the venom they spat against Serbians.
The simple fact is that farmers tend to have more land than city dwellers so just because a group may constitute 12% or 31% of the population it doesn't mean they can't have a larger percentage of land. It is the ignorant and in fact "stupid" who would think population percentage equates to the same percentage of land ownership. Even in KiM, our ethnic Albanians claim Serbians are 5% but even if that were true we reside on much more than 5% of land.
I hope a light just shone above your head and you now became enlightened.
'Cganon' my little troll friend! Everybody knows my position of opposing supposed humanitarian bombardment, whether that be Belgrade, Bharain or Bangkok.
You will have to do much better than that to bring my reputation down to your level.
Gave me a chuckle though.
Good luck with the multiple voting, keep assuming that we are all too stupid here to notice. Pip pip.
And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? (Nenad, 24 May 2011 17:32)
They'd lived in that 65% and 30% for Centuries, It wasnt occupied, Republika Srpska had just as much a right to exist as the muslim controlled BIH did
Why are they apologizing for what where is the apoplogy from CNN BBC the Guardian the New york Post for unrelenting and vicious propaganda campaign based on lies feed by the propaganda of the PR firm Ruder and Finn hired by croats and bosnian muslim i am only sorry did not empoly such a firm then like everybody else would never have to apoogize
--We've known RTS is lying all along. Only Serbs who were living in a state of denial didn't know that.
(ivan, 24 May 2011 19:52)--
I'm glad they're admitting the truth, but it's a little late, and there were thousands and thousands of lives lost because of this un-ending milosevic propaganda onslaught. unless you were there and experienced it, it is unbelievable.
and yet, somehow, the propaganda from so-called republika srpska was even worse, if that is possible. it was deadly, it was horrifying, it was a new low. i didn't quite hear an apology from those quarters.
but move up to present day. is the propaganda-war over? not hardly. it is SLIGHTly more subtle, but it is infused throughout the news. default nationalism. xenophobia. ethnic "slightling" (a nice way of saying racism.) a twisting of the news for party purposes. all observed by the independent journalists of serbia! who have repeated our own criticisms.
so it is one small step in the right direction, but it is meaningless is things continue on status quo.
to this day, dissidents are marginalized, and the belgrade intellectual dissidents are all but invisible to the mainstream blgd media. sonia had to escape the iron curtain and speak publicly in brussels in order to get covered here.
of course that's just fine for those on the other side, in this shark tank. but for those who love the truth and want to challenge the default nationalism, such conditions make it all but impossible.
and of course the unending racist slurs here and personal attacks... welcome to the shark tank.
once upon a time, b-92 was something to respect, that's the truth. now, many years ago...
So let me get this straight, Otpor™ left-overs and the usual suspects alike commenting here are fine with their beloved "humanitarian bombers" killing tv-crews at random. Thats what they do and that's NATO and USAs first victim in every colonial war of aggression since -99, targeting TV buildings and and their inhabitants for "hate speech", no tears from that evil corner of our nation, rather hate.
Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, CNN get their fair share of criticism in the US - the point is, they're not the only voices we hear over here. I'll be the first to admit that the US is far from a perfect democracy, but at least one has options when it comes to media. Did the Serbs have lots of options in the 80s and 90s? Did the Milosevic regime choose not to interfere with outlets that challenged his policies? I don't see Obama shutting down Fox News -- and believe me, they're not big fans of him.
Was reporting on the part of the BBC and CNN during the Balkan wars entirely objective? Most definitely not, but show me one news organization in the world that reports with journalistic perfection.
I certainly agree that the Serbs got a lot of bad press but I think they have to take at least some responsibility for that. Perhaps the bigger problem was that some of the other parties to the conflicts didn't get enough, but to some degree, that was inevitable.
A Bosnian Croat massacre of Muslims in Ahmici was bound to go somewhat unnoticed while Western journalists were mostly camped out at the Sarajevo Holiday Inn watching mortars raining down on the civilian population of a fairly cosmopolitan European city. Now, not all of those shells were fired from Serb guns up on the hilltops, but I'm pretty sure some of them were.
I would also argue that the idea that any army would fire, as the Muslims are alleged to have done, on its own civilians -- or at least provoke return fire on unthinkable targets -- for international sympathy was pretty unconscionable for most Westerners.
So, for example, when Markale was bombed in 1994, whom were we supposed to believe when the victims were Muslims? Maybe we Americans used similar tactics in our civil war of the 1860s, but given the nature of media at that time, I would tend to doubt it. Anyway, who but military historians would remember something like that in the 1990s?
I've said it again and again, but it bears repeating what Jovan Zametica (Karadzic's PR guy) confided to a British liasion officer in UNPROFOR: the Serbs were guilty of a complete public relations disaster. What was the Western media supposed to think? First of all, they barely knew who was who in the fight, so the simpler they could make things for their own organizations and their respective audiences, the better.
Who attacked Slovenia in July 1991? The JNA. Where was the JNA command? Belgrade. Who held the military advantage in Croatia through the latter part of 1991? The Croatian Serbs, apparently with some type of JNA backing. Perhaps Yugloslavs knew what was going on and why, but do you honestly think the same could be said for the British and Americans?
First, we heard that Belgrade was trying to keep Yugoslavia together. OK, but why was Slovenia permitted to leave with barely a scratch? And what about Macedonia? Not a single bullet fired down there.
Then it was a story of of the JNA protecting a Serb minority under threat. By then, at least, I think there was some truth to that argument, but I can guarantee you people over here were already pretty confused and probably not that interested in the first place. And anyway, wouldn't the Serbs need protection, given the stories about Croats being evicted from Krajina and Slavonia? And I hate to break it to you, but nobody over here had ever heard of Jasenovac. It didn't happen in or near Germany, and the culprits were (primarily) a people (Croats) with whom most Americans weren't familiar, so it didn't make it into our history books.
But anyway, Western media became flooded with images of JNA guns firing on Croatian populations in Vukovar and Dubrovnik through the latter part of 1991, and then in the spring of 1992, the story turned to Sarajevo, where once again, the story was of a non-Serb population under siege by Serbian artillery.
Meanwhile, who was attacking Belgrade? What big Serbian cities were under siege? And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? These supposedly "defensive" campaigns to protect Serbian minority populations from falling victim to Croatian and Muslim persecution sure looked a lot like offensive wars to the average Westerner.
Then Kosovo happened in 1999, and is it any wonder that people in the West were fully convinced of Serbian hegemony -- and of Serbian war crimes in the pursuit of that policy?
"An apology isn't so important. Far better to create a weekly programme dedicated to propoganda in the former Jugoslavija. It could be presented by one of the blacklisted journalists who were thrown out of RTS for opposing party propoganda. "
(bganon, 24 May 2011 10:42)
A proverb says: To admit your mistakes is the first step to do it better in the future. Let's hope that those Serbs who still believe in the myth that 'the evil west' broke up YU now finally start to realize that they listened to propaganda and misinformation during the Milosevic times.
NATO wasnt wrong after all.
(Pejoni, 24 May 2011 12:17)
What, that NATO were correct to bombing the RTS building in 1999 that cost innocent lives. They were not the only ones dishing out the hateful and spiteful propaganda. Do you also condone bombing FOX News & CNN HQ as well?
Now what RTS has done must be applauded, however I await with baited breath a reciprocal response from Pristina, Zagreb and Sarajevo.
Serbia deserves great credit for apologizing for negative comments. I wonder if someone could tell Rush Limbaugh to do the same. I hope the other countries in the region are learning from the Serbs. Probably wishful thinking on my part. Instead what they are probably doing is saying that Serbia was the only country speaking hate speech during the 1990s. Well, we can't account for stupidity, can we. If the Croats, Albanians in Kosovo, and Bosnian Muslims want to continue to be dolts and eschew their past transgressions, what can one do? In the end, their arrogance will be their undoing.
An apology isn't so important. Far better to create a weekly programme dedicated to propoganda in the former Jugoslavija. It could be presented by one of the blacklisted journalists who were thrown out of RTS for opposing party propoganda.
Such a programme can show examples of news mis/disinformation and interview journalists at the time for a broader view.
The print media should not be excluded either. Arguably the print media is worse these days than television, people need to be on their guard when reading...
An apology isn't so important. Far better to create a weekly programme dedicated to propoganda in the former Jugoslavija. It could be presented by one of the blacklisted journalists who were thrown out of RTS for opposing party propoganda.
Such a programme can show examples of news mis/disinformation and interview journalists at the time for a broader view.
The print media should not be excluded either. Arguably the print media is worse these days than television, people need to be on their guard when reading...
NATO wasnt wrong after all.
(Pejoni, 24 May 2011 12:17)
What, that NATO were correct to bombing the RTS building in 1999 that cost innocent lives. They were not the only ones dishing out the hateful and spiteful propaganda. Do you also condone bombing FOX News & CNN HQ as well?
Now what RTS has done must be applauded, however I await with baited breath a reciprocal response from Pristina, Zagreb and Sarajevo.
Serbia deserves great credit for apologizing for negative comments. I wonder if someone could tell Rush Limbaugh to do the same. I hope the other countries in the region are learning from the Serbs. Probably wishful thinking on my part. Instead what they are probably doing is saying that Serbia was the only country speaking hate speech during the 1990s. Well, we can't account for stupidity, can we. If the Croats, Albanians in Kosovo, and Bosnian Muslims want to continue to be dolts and eschew their past transgressions, what can one do? In the end, their arrogance will be their undoing.
Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, CNN get their fair share of criticism in the US - the point is, they're not the only voices we hear over here. I'll be the first to admit that the US is far from a perfect democracy, but at least one has options when it comes to media. Did the Serbs have lots of options in the 80s and 90s? Did the Milosevic regime choose not to interfere with outlets that challenged his policies? I don't see Obama shutting down Fox News -- and believe me, they're not big fans of him.
Was reporting on the part of the BBC and CNN during the Balkan wars entirely objective? Most definitely not, but show me one news organization in the world that reports with journalistic perfection.
I certainly agree that the Serbs got a lot of bad press but I think they have to take at least some responsibility for that. Perhaps the bigger problem was that some of the other parties to the conflicts didn't get enough, but to some degree, that was inevitable.
A Bosnian Croat massacre of Muslims in Ahmici was bound to go somewhat unnoticed while Western journalists were mostly camped out at the Sarajevo Holiday Inn watching mortars raining down on the civilian population of a fairly cosmopolitan European city. Now, not all of those shells were fired from Serb guns up on the hilltops, but I'm pretty sure some of them were.
I would also argue that the idea that any army would fire, as the Muslims are alleged to have done, on its own civilians -- or at least provoke return fire on unthinkable targets -- for international sympathy was pretty unconscionable for most Westerners.
So, for example, when Markale was bombed in 1994, whom were we supposed to believe when the victims were Muslims? Maybe we Americans used similar tactics in our civil war of the 1860s, but given the nature of media at that time, I would tend to doubt it. Anyway, who but military historians would remember something like that in the 1990s?
I've said it again and again, but it bears repeating what Jovan Zametica (Karadzic's PR guy) confided to a British liasion officer in UNPROFOR: the Serbs were guilty of a complete public relations disaster. What was the Western media supposed to think? First of all, they barely knew who was who in the fight, so the simpler they could make things for their own organizations and their respective audiences, the better.
Who attacked Slovenia in July 1991? The JNA. Where was the JNA command? Belgrade. Who held the military advantage in Croatia through the latter part of 1991? The Croatian Serbs, apparently with some type of JNA backing. Perhaps Yugloslavs knew what was going on and why, but do you honestly think the same could be said for the British and Americans?
First, we heard that Belgrade was trying to keep Yugoslavia together. OK, but why was Slovenia permitted to leave with barely a scratch? And what about Macedonia? Not a single bullet fired down there.
Then it was a story of of the JNA protecting a Serb minority under threat. By then, at least, I think there was some truth to that argument, but I can guarantee you people over here were already pretty confused and probably not that interested in the first place. And anyway, wouldn't the Serbs need protection, given the stories about Croats being evicted from Krajina and Slavonia? And I hate to break it to you, but nobody over here had ever heard of Jasenovac. It didn't happen in or near Germany, and the culprits were (primarily) a people (Croats) with whom most Americans weren't familiar, so it didn't make it into our history books.
But anyway, Western media became flooded with images of JNA guns firing on Croatian populations in Vukovar and Dubrovnik through the latter part of 1991, and then in the spring of 1992, the story turned to Sarajevo, where once again, the story was of a non-Serb population under siege by Serbian artillery.
Meanwhile, who was attacking Belgrade? What big Serbian cities were under siege? And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? These supposedly "defensive" campaigns to protect Serbian minority populations from falling victim to Croatian and Muslim persecution sure looked a lot like offensive wars to the average Westerner.
Then Kosovo happened in 1999, and is it any wonder that people in the West were fully convinced of Serbian hegemony -- and of Serbian war crimes in the pursuit of that policy?
So let me get this straight, Otpor™ left-overs and the usual suspects alike commenting here are fine with their beloved "humanitarian bombers" killing tv-crews at random. Thats what they do and that's NATO and USAs first victim in every colonial war of aggression since -99, targeting TV buildings and and their inhabitants for "hate speech", no tears from that evil corner of our nation, rather hate.
"An apology isn't so important. Far better to create a weekly programme dedicated to propoganda in the former Jugoslavija. It could be presented by one of the blacklisted journalists who were thrown out of RTS for opposing party propoganda. "
(bganon, 24 May 2011 10:42)
A proverb says: To admit your mistakes is the first step to do it better in the future. Let's hope that those Serbs who still believe in the myth that 'the evil west' broke up YU now finally start to realize that they listened to propaganda and misinformation during the Milosevic times.
--We've known RTS is lying all along. Only Serbs who were living in a state of denial didn't know that.
(ivan, 24 May 2011 19:52)--
I'm glad they're admitting the truth, but it's a little late, and there were thousands and thousands of lives lost because of this un-ending milosevic propaganda onslaught. unless you were there and experienced it, it is unbelievable.
and yet, somehow, the propaganda from so-called republika srpska was even worse, if that is possible. it was deadly, it was horrifying, it was a new low. i didn't quite hear an apology from those quarters.
but move up to present day. is the propaganda-war over? not hardly. it is SLIGHTly more subtle, but it is infused throughout the news. default nationalism. xenophobia. ethnic "slightling" (a nice way of saying racism.) a twisting of the news for party purposes. all observed by the independent journalists of serbia! who have repeated our own criticisms.
so it is one small step in the right direction, but it is meaningless is things continue on status quo.
to this day, dissidents are marginalized, and the belgrade intellectual dissidents are all but invisible to the mainstream blgd media. sonia had to escape the iron curtain and speak publicly in brussels in order to get covered here.
of course that's just fine for those on the other side, in this shark tank. but for those who love the truth and want to challenge the default nationalism, such conditions make it all but impossible.
and of course the unending racist slurs here and personal attacks... welcome to the shark tank.
once upon a time, b-92 was something to respect, that's the truth. now, many years ago...
And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? (Nenad, 24 May 2011 17:32)
They'd lived in that 65% and 30% for Centuries, It wasnt occupied, Republika Srpska had just as much a right to exist as the muslim controlled BIH did
'Cganon' my little troll friend! Everybody knows my position of opposing supposed humanitarian bombardment, whether that be Belgrade, Bharain or Bangkok.
You will have to do much better than that to bring my reputation down to your level.
Gave me a chuckle though.
Good luck with the multiple voting, keep assuming that we are all too stupid here to notice. Pip pip.
And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? These supposedly "defensive" campaigns to protect Serbian minority populations from falling victim to Croatian and Muslim persecution sure looked a lot like offensive wars to the average Westerner.
Then Kosovo happened in 1999, and is it any wonder that people in the West were fully convinced of Serbian hegemony -- and of Serbian war crimes in the pursuit of that policy?
(Nenad, 24 May 2011 17:32)
--
The average westerner is fairly ignorant when it comes to the Balkans, especially those from the US. The propaganda from western sources was intense against Serbians and knowing the western arrogance I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting an apology for all the venom they spat against Serbians.
The simple fact is that farmers tend to have more land than city dwellers so just because a group may constitute 12% or 31% of the population it doesn't mean they can't have a larger percentage of land. It is the ignorant and in fact "stupid" who would think population percentage equates to the same percentage of land ownership. Even in KiM, our ethnic Albanians claim Serbians are 5% but even if that were true we reside on much more than 5% of land.
I hope a light just shone above your head and you now became enlightened.
Why are they apologizing for what where is the apoplogy from CNN BBC the Guardian the New york Post for unrelenting and vicious propaganda campaign based on lies feed by the propaganda of the PR firm Ruder and Finn hired by croats and bosnian muslim i am only sorry did not empoly such a firm then like everybody else would never have to apoogize
Actually Danilo we now know that RTS didn't know they were going to be bombed. Wesley Clark claimed that CNN were supposed to leak the time and date, but instead invited Aleksandar Vucic to be interviewed from the RTS building just after the bombing raid.
An apology isn't so important. Far better to create a weekly programme dedicated to propoganda in the former Jugoslavija. It could be presented by one of the blacklisted journalists who were thrown out of RTS for opposing party propoganda.
Such a programme can show examples of news mis/disinformation and interview journalists at the time for a broader view.
The print media should not be excluded either. Arguably the print media is worse these days than television, people need to be on their guard when reading...
"An apology isn't so important. Far better to create a weekly programme dedicated to propoganda in the former Jugoslavija. It could be presented by one of the blacklisted journalists who were thrown out of RTS for opposing party propoganda. "
(bganon, 24 May 2011 10:42)
A proverb says: To admit your mistakes is the first step to do it better in the future. Let's hope that those Serbs who still believe in the myth that 'the evil west' broke up YU now finally start to realize that they listened to propaganda and misinformation during the Milosevic times.
Serbia deserves great credit for apologizing for negative comments. I wonder if someone could tell Rush Limbaugh to do the same. I hope the other countries in the region are learning from the Serbs. Probably wishful thinking on my part. Instead what they are probably doing is saying that Serbia was the only country speaking hate speech during the 1990s. Well, we can't account for stupidity, can we. If the Croats, Albanians in Kosovo, and Bosnian Muslims want to continue to be dolts and eschew their past transgressions, what can one do? In the end, their arrogance will be their undoing.
NATO wasnt wrong after all.
(Pejoni, 24 May 2011 12:17)
What, that NATO were correct to bombing the RTS building in 1999 that cost innocent lives. They were not the only ones dishing out the hateful and spiteful propaganda. Do you also condone bombing FOX News & CNN HQ as well?
Now what RTS has done must be applauded, however I await with baited breath a reciprocal response from Pristina, Zagreb and Sarajevo.
--We've known RTS is lying all along. Only Serbs who were living in a state of denial didn't know that.
(ivan, 24 May 2011 19:52)--
I'm glad they're admitting the truth, but it's a little late, and there were thousands and thousands of lives lost because of this un-ending milosevic propaganda onslaught. unless you were there and experienced it, it is unbelievable.
and yet, somehow, the propaganda from so-called republika srpska was even worse, if that is possible. it was deadly, it was horrifying, it was a new low. i didn't quite hear an apology from those quarters.
but move up to present day. is the propaganda-war over? not hardly. it is SLIGHTly more subtle, but it is infused throughout the news. default nationalism. xenophobia. ethnic "slightling" (a nice way of saying racism.) a twisting of the news for party purposes. all observed by the independent journalists of serbia! who have repeated our own criticisms.
so it is one small step in the right direction, but it is meaningless is things continue on status quo.
to this day, dissidents are marginalized, and the belgrade intellectual dissidents are all but invisible to the mainstream blgd media. sonia had to escape the iron curtain and speak publicly in brussels in order to get covered here.
of course that's just fine for those on the other side, in this shark tank. but for those who love the truth and want to challenge the default nationalism, such conditions make it all but impossible.
and of course the unending racist slurs here and personal attacks... welcome to the shark tank.
once upon a time, b-92 was something to respect, that's the truth. now, many years ago...
Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, CNN get their fair share of criticism in the US - the point is, they're not the only voices we hear over here. I'll be the first to admit that the US is far from a perfect democracy, but at least one has options when it comes to media. Did the Serbs have lots of options in the 80s and 90s? Did the Milosevic regime choose not to interfere with outlets that challenged his policies? I don't see Obama shutting down Fox News -- and believe me, they're not big fans of him.
Was reporting on the part of the BBC and CNN during the Balkan wars entirely objective? Most definitely not, but show me one news organization in the world that reports with journalistic perfection.
I certainly agree that the Serbs got a lot of bad press but I think they have to take at least some responsibility for that. Perhaps the bigger problem was that some of the other parties to the conflicts didn't get enough, but to some degree, that was inevitable.
A Bosnian Croat massacre of Muslims in Ahmici was bound to go somewhat unnoticed while Western journalists were mostly camped out at the Sarajevo Holiday Inn watching mortars raining down on the civilian population of a fairly cosmopolitan European city. Now, not all of those shells were fired from Serb guns up on the hilltops, but I'm pretty sure some of them were.
I would also argue that the idea that any army would fire, as the Muslims are alleged to have done, on its own civilians -- or at least provoke return fire on unthinkable targets -- for international sympathy was pretty unconscionable for most Westerners.
So, for example, when Markale was bombed in 1994, whom were we supposed to believe when the victims were Muslims? Maybe we Americans used similar tactics in our civil war of the 1860s, but given the nature of media at that time, I would tend to doubt it. Anyway, who but military historians would remember something like that in the 1990s?
I've said it again and again, but it bears repeating what Jovan Zametica (Karadzic's PR guy) confided to a British liasion officer in UNPROFOR: the Serbs were guilty of a complete public relations disaster. What was the Western media supposed to think? First of all, they barely knew who was who in the fight, so the simpler they could make things for their own organizations and their respective audiences, the better.
Who attacked Slovenia in July 1991? The JNA. Where was the JNA command? Belgrade. Who held the military advantage in Croatia through the latter part of 1991? The Croatian Serbs, apparently with some type of JNA backing. Perhaps Yugloslavs knew what was going on and why, but do you honestly think the same could be said for the British and Americans?
First, we heard that Belgrade was trying to keep Yugoslavia together. OK, but why was Slovenia permitted to leave with barely a scratch? And what about Macedonia? Not a single bullet fired down there.
Then it was a story of of the JNA protecting a Serb minority under threat. By then, at least, I think there was some truth to that argument, but I can guarantee you people over here were already pretty confused and probably not that interested in the first place. And anyway, wouldn't the Serbs need protection, given the stories about Croats being evicted from Krajina and Slavonia? And I hate to break it to you, but nobody over here had ever heard of Jasenovac. It didn't happen in or near Germany, and the culprits were (primarily) a people (Croats) with whom most Americans weren't familiar, so it didn't make it into our history books.
But anyway, Western media became flooded with images of JNA guns firing on Croatian populations in Vukovar and Dubrovnik through the latter part of 1991, and then in the spring of 1992, the story turned to Sarajevo, where once again, the story was of a non-Serb population under siege by Serbian artillery.
Meanwhile, who was attacking Belgrade? What big Serbian cities were under siege? And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? These supposedly "defensive" campaigns to protect Serbian minority populations from falling victim to Croatian and Muslim persecution sure looked a lot like offensive wars to the average Westerner.
Then Kosovo happened in 1999, and is it any wonder that people in the West were fully convinced of Serbian hegemony -- and of Serbian war crimes in the pursuit of that policy?
So let me get this straight, Otpor™ left-overs and the usual suspects alike commenting here are fine with their beloved "humanitarian bombers" killing tv-crews at random. Thats what they do and that's NATO and USAs first victim in every colonial war of aggression since -99, targeting TV buildings and and their inhabitants for "hate speech", no tears from that evil corner of our nation, rather hate.
Why are they apologizing for what where is the apoplogy from CNN BBC the Guardian the New york Post for unrelenting and vicious propaganda campaign based on lies feed by the propaganda of the PR firm Ruder and Finn hired by croats and bosnian muslim i am only sorry did not empoly such a firm then like everybody else would never have to apoogize
And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? (Nenad, 24 May 2011 17:32)
They'd lived in that 65% and 30% for Centuries, It wasnt occupied, Republika Srpska had just as much a right to exist as the muslim controlled BIH did
And how was one to interpret a map that showed Serb forces occupying 30% of Croatia and 65% of Bosnia as a pre-war minority of 12% and 31% in those respective republics? These supposedly "defensive" campaigns to protect Serbian minority populations from falling victim to Croatian and Muslim persecution sure looked a lot like offensive wars to the average Westerner.
Then Kosovo happened in 1999, and is it any wonder that people in the West were fully convinced of Serbian hegemony -- and of Serbian war crimes in the pursuit of that policy?
(Nenad, 24 May 2011 17:32)
--
The average westerner is fairly ignorant when it comes to the Balkans, especially those from the US. The propaganda from western sources was intense against Serbians and knowing the western arrogance I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting an apology for all the venom they spat against Serbians.
The simple fact is that farmers tend to have more land than city dwellers so just because a group may constitute 12% or 31% of the population it doesn't mean they can't have a larger percentage of land. It is the ignorant and in fact "stupid" who would think population percentage equates to the same percentage of land ownership. Even in KiM, our ethnic Albanians claim Serbians are 5% but even if that were true we reside on much more than 5% of land.
I hope a light just shone above your head and you now became enlightened.
'Cganon' my little troll friend! Everybody knows my position of opposing supposed humanitarian bombardment, whether that be Belgrade, Bharain or Bangkok.
You will have to do much better than that to bring my reputation down to your level.
Gave me a chuckle though.
Good luck with the multiple voting, keep assuming that we are all too stupid here to notice. Pip pip.
Actually Danilo we now know that RTS didn't know they were going to be bombed. Wesley Clark claimed that CNN were supposed to leak the time and date, but instead invited Aleksandar Vucic to be interviewed from the RTS building just after the bombing raid.
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