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Sunday, 22.05.2011.

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Kosovo rejects two Germanies model

The Kosovo government has rejected the possibility that two Germanies model can be used as a model in establishing new relations between Belgrade and Priština.

Izvor: Tanjug

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pss

pre 12 godina

Well, hope they will read B92 there...
And hey, if I am wrong (I can be wrong off course) please show we the resolution that annuls 1244...
(Ron, 24 May 2011 02:52)
1244 does not need to be annulled, you just need to read the entire text instead of taking one liners out of context!

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

There goes that imagination of yours again. No forced deportation of anyone, well maybe KLA deported to the nearest prison.
(Peggy, 24 May 2011 11:35)

That was my personal experience not imagination. As for whether there will be somebody to fight in Kosovo, I am sure that Tadic knows something you don't know. Otherwise what is keeping him from trying again?
As for Germanies model that can not be applied with Kosovo and Serbia. While Germanies were 100% with germans, Kosovo unlike Serbia is 95% with albanians.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Then, you can continue your policy of forced deportation of all Kosovo Albanians. Right? What a wishful thinking.
(Simpatiku, 23 May 2011 23:55)
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There goes that imagination of yours again. No forced deportation of anyone, well maybe KLA deported to the nearest prison.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Wow! I've never looked at it like this before. I'm so glad you've brought this new information into light. This is ground breaking stuff. You must be some sort of genius for that comment alone. Have you informed Belgrade about this?
(Ian, UK, 23 May 2011 13:57)

Well, hope they will read B92 there...
And hey, if I am wrong (I can be wrong off course) please show we the resolution that annuls 1244...

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Sure about that? Who is going to defend your position, you and what army?
If you are talking about NATO fighting your battles again then you could be very mistaken. They only fight for their own interests and once you are no longer useful they will stop. Then you're on your own and we all know how brave KLA is when left alone.
(Peggy, 22 May 2011 23:36)

Then, you can continue your policy of forced deportation of all Kosovo Albanians. Right? What a wishful thinking.

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo rejects two Germany models"That's quite understandable
Kosovo is not ready for anything other then the present status
which is direct UNSC resolution 1244 control, which governing that Serbian province to date.From Foreign Minister of Kosovo statement Mr.Enver Hoxhaj
"Kosovo was independent and sovereign"one can see where is he coming from,
lies and wishful thinking.Therefore, Is not a base to discuss anything other then co-existence,protection of Serbian people,and its Churches and Monasteries in KIM.These issues from any civilized perspective would be easy to negotiate.However,Its very difficult with Albanians which are still in terrorist's mode, dedicated to destroy everything what is Serbian in KIM.International community,especially EU should intensify effort to bring Albanians to the necessary level of civility,so they can live outside the cage.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is not a state. It is a Serbian province rules by UN as per 1244.
(Ron, 23 May 2011 01:25)

Wow! I've never looked at it like this before. I'm so glad you've brought this new information into light. This is ground breaking stuff. You must be some sort of genius for that comment alone. Have you informed Belgrade about this?

UK

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo is independent and Serbia should respect the will of the people in Kosovo and leave them alone!!

Respect you neighbour"

So, does this mean that you should respect the will of the majority Serb population in the north who want no part of this UDI? If there is a rule then that rule surely has to apply to all equally?

mick

pre 12 godina

Kosovo Is Forever Serbian
This model will not work.

I just cant understand the albanian mentality of these crimes against the Serbian people and culture.
kosovo is stolen , and americans and the EU Have clearly a purpose for an independent Kosovo in the middle of the Balkans.

P.S. Albanians can erase as much Serb Culture from kosovo, but the Justice and truthfulness is on our side, we waited 500 years to get kosovo back from the turks we will wait again.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@Demi: but we won´t let you alone, my friend. you know, how could Serbia let her own little child alone...

KiM is southern serbian territory, and those teenagers dreaming of unification with Albania will be quite disappointed actually.

reintegration is much more likely, even though you cannot ( and do not want to ) understand the reasons for that.

there is nobody who would ask the K-albanians, once the conditions have shifted, it will even be an advantage for the k-albanians when the time has come. it´s just too early for that now.

but the day will come.


let´s just see what future brings! =)

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Nobody has the position to force Kosovo Albanians to live in the same state as Serbia. So as long as albanians are a majority in Kosovo then Kosovo will never be in the same state with Serbia!! "
================================

Sure about that? Who is going to defend your position, you and what army?
If you are talking about NATO fighting your battles again then you could be very mistaken. They only fight for their own interests and once you are no longer useful they will stop. Then you're on your own and we all know how brave KLA is when left alone.

Mark

pre 12 godina

East and West Germany both were the same nation.In the end Germans united in one country.Kosovo is 95% Albanian and if the German model is to be followed Kosovo would join Albania and not Serbia.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Seems like the vast majority doesn't even know what the 'two Germany' model is about: It's about two states that didn't recognize each other, both considered itself as 'the only real Germany', but were still able to have a dialogue, cooperate and solve some issues, regardless of the status (which was simply not discussed and has been solved much, much later, in the end).

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

I think elements of the "Two Germanies Model" could be appropriate, such as Police working together to cut down on organised crime which happens in both Serbia and Kosovo. Then police and other services working together in the event of natural disasters ect.

However I'm not entirely convinced by the "Two Germanies Model" as a whole.

ivan

pre 12 godina

Two Germanies were populated by Germans. This can work only (lets say) if we were talking about Kosovo and Albania who are populated by vast majority Albanian population.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is forever linked to Serbian culture and statehood. Albanians tried many times to rid Kosovo of everything and anything that reminds the world to whom Kosovo really belongs. Albanians failed in the past and they and they will fail again. As long as Kosovo is not recognized by Serbia it is legaly ours. Kosovo is Serbia, now and forever.

Demi

pre 12 godina

Never say "never"
(passing by, 22 May 2011 14:52)


Asking Kosovo to be in the same state as Serbia would be like asking Bulgaria to be in the same state as Romania. No reason at all for it to happend and it will Never happend.

Nobody has the position to force Kosovo Albanians to live in the same state as Serbia. So as long as albanians are a majority in Kosovo then Kosovo will never be in the same state with Serbia!!


Kosovo is independent and Serbia should respect the will of the people in Kosovo and leave them alone!!

Respect you neighbour!

Top

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo's Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj said that the model should not be accepted, among other reasons because Kosovo was independent and sovereign, and had a strong statehood which was well consolidated inside and outside of its territory."

What a funny guy. What an argument! Both Germanies have been real states and have been much more independent, sovereign and recognized than Kosovo ever will be.

Top

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo's Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj said that the model should not be accepted, among other reasons because Kosovo was independent and sovereign, and had a strong statehood which was well consolidated inside and outside of its territory."

What a funny guy. What an argument! Both Germanies have been real states and have been much more independent, sovereign and recognized than Kosovo ever will be.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is forever linked to Serbian culture and statehood. Albanians tried many times to rid Kosovo of everything and anything that reminds the world to whom Kosovo really belongs. Albanians failed in the past and they and they will fail again. As long as Kosovo is not recognized by Serbia it is legaly ours. Kosovo is Serbia, now and forever.

Demi

pre 12 godina

Never say "never"
(passing by, 22 May 2011 14:52)


Asking Kosovo to be in the same state as Serbia would be like asking Bulgaria to be in the same state as Romania. No reason at all for it to happend and it will Never happend.

Nobody has the position to force Kosovo Albanians to live in the same state as Serbia. So as long as albanians are a majority in Kosovo then Kosovo will never be in the same state with Serbia!!


Kosovo is independent and Serbia should respect the will of the people in Kosovo and leave them alone!!

Respect you neighbour!

Mark

pre 12 godina

East and West Germany both were the same nation.In the end Germans united in one country.Kosovo is 95% Albanian and if the German model is to be followed Kosovo would join Albania and not Serbia.

ivan

pre 12 godina

Two Germanies were populated by Germans. This can work only (lets say) if we were talking about Kosovo and Albania who are populated by vast majority Albanian population.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is not a state. It is a Serbian province rules by UN as per 1244.
(Ron, 23 May 2011 01:25)

Wow! I've never looked at it like this before. I'm so glad you've brought this new information into light. This is ground breaking stuff. You must be some sort of genius for that comment alone. Have you informed Belgrade about this?

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Seems like the vast majority doesn't even know what the 'two Germany' model is about: It's about two states that didn't recognize each other, both considered itself as 'the only real Germany', but were still able to have a dialogue, cooperate and solve some issues, regardless of the status (which was simply not discussed and has been solved much, much later, in the end).

mick

pre 12 godina

Kosovo Is Forever Serbian
This model will not work.

I just cant understand the albanian mentality of these crimes against the Serbian people and culture.
kosovo is stolen , and americans and the EU Have clearly a purpose for an independent Kosovo in the middle of the Balkans.

P.S. Albanians can erase as much Serb Culture from kosovo, but the Justice and truthfulness is on our side, we waited 500 years to get kosovo back from the turks we will wait again.

UK

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo is independent and Serbia should respect the will of the people in Kosovo and leave them alone!!

Respect you neighbour"

So, does this mean that you should respect the will of the majority Serb population in the north who want no part of this UDI? If there is a rule then that rule surely has to apply to all equally?

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

I think elements of the "Two Germanies Model" could be appropriate, such as Police working together to cut down on organised crime which happens in both Serbia and Kosovo. Then police and other services working together in the event of natural disasters ect.

However I'm not entirely convinced by the "Two Germanies Model" as a whole.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@Demi: but we won´t let you alone, my friend. you know, how could Serbia let her own little child alone...

KiM is southern serbian territory, and those teenagers dreaming of unification with Albania will be quite disappointed actually.

reintegration is much more likely, even though you cannot ( and do not want to ) understand the reasons for that.

there is nobody who would ask the K-albanians, once the conditions have shifted, it will even be an advantage for the k-albanians when the time has come. it´s just too early for that now.

but the day will come.


let´s just see what future brings! =)

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Nobody has the position to force Kosovo Albanians to live in the same state as Serbia. So as long as albanians are a majority in Kosovo then Kosovo will never be in the same state with Serbia!! "
================================

Sure about that? Who is going to defend your position, you and what army?
If you are talking about NATO fighting your battles again then you could be very mistaken. They only fight for their own interests and once you are no longer useful they will stop. Then you're on your own and we all know how brave KLA is when left alone.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Sure about that? Who is going to defend your position, you and what army?
If you are talking about NATO fighting your battles again then you could be very mistaken. They only fight for their own interests and once you are no longer useful they will stop. Then you're on your own and we all know how brave KLA is when left alone.
(Peggy, 22 May 2011 23:36)

Then, you can continue your policy of forced deportation of all Kosovo Albanians. Right? What a wishful thinking.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Wow! I've never looked at it like this before. I'm so glad you've brought this new information into light. This is ground breaking stuff. You must be some sort of genius for that comment alone. Have you informed Belgrade about this?
(Ian, UK, 23 May 2011 13:57)

Well, hope they will read B92 there...
And hey, if I am wrong (I can be wrong off course) please show we the resolution that annuls 1244...

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

There goes that imagination of yours again. No forced deportation of anyone, well maybe KLA deported to the nearest prison.
(Peggy, 24 May 2011 11:35)

That was my personal experience not imagination. As for whether there will be somebody to fight in Kosovo, I am sure that Tadic knows something you don't know. Otherwise what is keeping him from trying again?
As for Germanies model that can not be applied with Kosovo and Serbia. While Germanies were 100% with germans, Kosovo unlike Serbia is 95% with albanians.

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo rejects two Germany models"That's quite understandable
Kosovo is not ready for anything other then the present status
which is direct UNSC resolution 1244 control, which governing that Serbian province to date.From Foreign Minister of Kosovo statement Mr.Enver Hoxhaj
"Kosovo was independent and sovereign"one can see where is he coming from,
lies and wishful thinking.Therefore, Is not a base to discuss anything other then co-existence,protection of Serbian people,and its Churches and Monasteries in KIM.These issues from any civilized perspective would be easy to negotiate.However,Its very difficult with Albanians which are still in terrorist's mode, dedicated to destroy everything what is Serbian in KIM.International community,especially EU should intensify effort to bring Albanians to the necessary level of civility,so they can live outside the cage.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Then, you can continue your policy of forced deportation of all Kosovo Albanians. Right? What a wishful thinking.
(Simpatiku, 23 May 2011 23:55)
============================

There goes that imagination of yours again. No forced deportation of anyone, well maybe KLA deported to the nearest prison.

pss

pre 12 godina

Well, hope they will read B92 there...
And hey, if I am wrong (I can be wrong off course) please show we the resolution that annuls 1244...
(Ron, 24 May 2011 02:52)
1244 does not need to be annulled, you just need to read the entire text instead of taking one liners out of context!

Demi

pre 12 godina

Never say "never"
(passing by, 22 May 2011 14:52)


Asking Kosovo to be in the same state as Serbia would be like asking Bulgaria to be in the same state as Romania. No reason at all for it to happend and it will Never happend.

Nobody has the position to force Kosovo Albanians to live in the same state as Serbia. So as long as albanians are a majority in Kosovo then Kosovo will never be in the same state with Serbia!!


Kosovo is independent and Serbia should respect the will of the people in Kosovo and leave them alone!!

Respect you neighbour!

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is forever linked to Serbian culture and statehood. Albanians tried many times to rid Kosovo of everything and anything that reminds the world to whom Kosovo really belongs. Albanians failed in the past and they and they will fail again. As long as Kosovo is not recognized by Serbia it is legaly ours. Kosovo is Serbia, now and forever.

Top

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo's Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj said that the model should not be accepted, among other reasons because Kosovo was independent and sovereign, and had a strong statehood which was well consolidated inside and outside of its territory."

What a funny guy. What an argument! Both Germanies have been real states and have been much more independent, sovereign and recognized than Kosovo ever will be.

ivan

pre 12 godina

Two Germanies were populated by Germans. This can work only (lets say) if we were talking about Kosovo and Albania who are populated by vast majority Albanian population.

UK

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo is independent and Serbia should respect the will of the people in Kosovo and leave them alone!!

Respect you neighbour"

So, does this mean that you should respect the will of the majority Serb population in the north who want no part of this UDI? If there is a rule then that rule surely has to apply to all equally?

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Nobody has the position to force Kosovo Albanians to live in the same state as Serbia. So as long as albanians are a majority in Kosovo then Kosovo will never be in the same state with Serbia!! "
================================

Sure about that? Who is going to defend your position, you and what army?
If you are talking about NATO fighting your battles again then you could be very mistaken. They only fight for their own interests and once you are no longer useful they will stop. Then you're on your own and we all know how brave KLA is when left alone.

mick

pre 12 godina

Kosovo Is Forever Serbian
This model will not work.

I just cant understand the albanian mentality of these crimes against the Serbian people and culture.
kosovo is stolen , and americans and the EU Have clearly a purpose for an independent Kosovo in the middle of the Balkans.

P.S. Albanians can erase as much Serb Culture from kosovo, but the Justice and truthfulness is on our side, we waited 500 years to get kosovo back from the turks we will wait again.

Mark

pre 12 godina

East and West Germany both were the same nation.In the end Germans united in one country.Kosovo is 95% Albanian and if the German model is to be followed Kosovo would join Albania and not Serbia.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@Demi: but we won´t let you alone, my friend. you know, how could Serbia let her own little child alone...

KiM is southern serbian territory, and those teenagers dreaming of unification with Albania will be quite disappointed actually.

reintegration is much more likely, even though you cannot ( and do not want to ) understand the reasons for that.

there is nobody who would ask the K-albanians, once the conditions have shifted, it will even be an advantage for the k-albanians when the time has come. it´s just too early for that now.

but the day will come.


let´s just see what future brings! =)

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

"Kosovo rejects two Germany models"That's quite understandable
Kosovo is not ready for anything other then the present status
which is direct UNSC resolution 1244 control, which governing that Serbian province to date.From Foreign Minister of Kosovo statement Mr.Enver Hoxhaj
"Kosovo was independent and sovereign"one can see where is he coming from,
lies and wishful thinking.Therefore, Is not a base to discuss anything other then co-existence,protection of Serbian people,and its Churches and Monasteries in KIM.These issues from any civilized perspective would be easy to negotiate.However,Its very difficult with Albanians which are still in terrorist's mode, dedicated to destroy everything what is Serbian in KIM.International community,especially EU should intensify effort to bring Albanians to the necessary level of civility,so they can live outside the cage.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

Seems like the vast majority doesn't even know what the 'two Germany' model is about: It's about two states that didn't recognize each other, both considered itself as 'the only real Germany', but were still able to have a dialogue, cooperate and solve some issues, regardless of the status (which was simply not discussed and has been solved much, much later, in the end).

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is not a state. It is a Serbian province rules by UN as per 1244.
(Ron, 23 May 2011 01:25)

Wow! I've never looked at it like this before. I'm so glad you've brought this new information into light. This is ground breaking stuff. You must be some sort of genius for that comment alone. Have you informed Belgrade about this?

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Then, you can continue your policy of forced deportation of all Kosovo Albanians. Right? What a wishful thinking.
(Simpatiku, 23 May 2011 23:55)
============================

There goes that imagination of yours again. No forced deportation of anyone, well maybe KLA deported to the nearest prison.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Sure about that? Who is going to defend your position, you and what army?
If you are talking about NATO fighting your battles again then you could be very mistaken. They only fight for their own interests and once you are no longer useful they will stop. Then you're on your own and we all know how brave KLA is when left alone.
(Peggy, 22 May 2011 23:36)

Then, you can continue your policy of forced deportation of all Kosovo Albanians. Right? What a wishful thinking.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

I think elements of the "Two Germanies Model" could be appropriate, such as Police working together to cut down on organised crime which happens in both Serbia and Kosovo. Then police and other services working together in the event of natural disasters ect.

However I'm not entirely convinced by the "Two Germanies Model" as a whole.

Ron

pre 12 godina

Wow! I've never looked at it like this before. I'm so glad you've brought this new information into light. This is ground breaking stuff. You must be some sort of genius for that comment alone. Have you informed Belgrade about this?
(Ian, UK, 23 May 2011 13:57)

Well, hope they will read B92 there...
And hey, if I am wrong (I can be wrong off course) please show we the resolution that annuls 1244...

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

There goes that imagination of yours again. No forced deportation of anyone, well maybe KLA deported to the nearest prison.
(Peggy, 24 May 2011 11:35)

That was my personal experience not imagination. As for whether there will be somebody to fight in Kosovo, I am sure that Tadic knows something you don't know. Otherwise what is keeping him from trying again?
As for Germanies model that can not be applied with Kosovo and Serbia. While Germanies were 100% with germans, Kosovo unlike Serbia is 95% with albanians.

pss

pre 12 godina

Well, hope they will read B92 there...
And hey, if I am wrong (I can be wrong off course) please show we the resolution that annuls 1244...
(Ron, 24 May 2011 02:52)
1244 does not need to be annulled, you just need to read the entire text instead of taking one liners out of context!