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Friday, 20.05.2011.

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FM: Abolish office of "viceroy" in Bosnia

With the removal of the danger of destabilization, there should no longer be an international high representative in Bosnia-Herzegovina, says Vuk Jeremić.

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Tulip

pre 12 godina

Serbia will "continue" to exercise a positive influence on Bosnia? The FM is suggesting here that Serbia is currently a positive on Bosnia? An interesting albeit laughable notion.

Outside of clearly violating some fairly basic diplomatic norms (e.g. meddling in another country's internal politics), the FM is completely avoiding the fact that Serbia has done nothing in Bosnia but continued the disastrous policies of the 90s through a less overt fashion. Jeremic, for his part, has been at the forefront of this cover assault on Bosnian citizens with his bogus "arrest warrants" that have been thrown out of every court in Europe and his governments steadfast support of the ultra-nationalist and chauvinist politics of Milorad Dodik.

I do, however, agree that the OHR needs to be phased out eventually, and that is a fundamentally anti-democratic institution. Of course, what he fails to mention is, in practice, the biggest supporters of the OHR in Bosnia are people like Dodik who continue to give the international community excuse to treat Bosnia like a colony because they do absolutely nothing to create stability or co-operation between Bosnia's communities.

This, of course, is precisely what Dodik wants. Dayton created an apartheid system in Bosnia that has allowed nationalist thugs like him to create personal empires on the misery of all Bosnians--of course whilst pretending to "defend" their respective communities for their very, very evil neighbors. Should Bosnia ever become a true democracy and, of course, take steps to reform the apartheid structure of Dayton, Dodik and friends will be gone faster than you can say "goodbye."

All the more reason why Jeremic's idea that the OHR ought to be an elected body is so laughable. What he is essentially suggesting is a elected executive, a single president for Bosnia. Isn't that precisely everything Dodik and even Serbia proper have been raging against for the past 20 years? For God's sake, Dodik won't even allow the Bosnia Football Federation to have a single president, and Jeremic thinks he'll agree to something a elected OHR? Please.

They're talking out of both sides of their mouth, to say the least.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

there NEVER was any justification for any foreign figure having any kind of power upon the bosnian poeples.

so, I would rather ask who it is, who dared to think that some monkey in a suit could wipe out things that elected representatives have done?

if the bosnian muslims were not that servile to the west, western occupiers wouldn´t be there now.

and of course it is only a question of time, that they will leave.

there is no power on this planet that can hold a nation of millions back to unite. and that will happen sooner or later.

and KiM will be liberated again, like right after WW I when with the Serbs there came fluent water and electricity to Kosovo...

this time it will be the rule of law and security. and the end of organized albanian crime.

and I think the european union will be glad this happens, once the time has come.

its all just a question of time. and of course a lot of Albanians will start their well known bla bla about being independent and "never again under serbian boot" and all that nonsense we´ve read so many times here...

please my dear k-albanian friends, finally stop acting as if you are victims. that would be a great thing for you too, just like a new step in evolution... facing the truth and standing on your own feet - what does not mean living from foreign help but from hard work. and that means quitting to sit in down-town Pristina in the cafe´s all day long.

where´s your pride, actually? why don´t you work for your living? why are you blaming the Serbs for your own faults?

...anyway, all will be fine, as I said, it´s all just a question of time.

Olli

pre 12 godina

Wilberforce,

Your tongue (or writing hand) sure is faster than your thinking.

The right way to go is to guarantee by legislation that all ethnicities possess fair chances of private and state sector employment. In other words: ethnicity must not be an advantage nor a hindrance for employment, as well as gender, or colour of one's skin, or your religion, must not be such. State must also support the existence of languages spoken by its citizenry, as well as guarantee that citizenry shares a common language. School children of ethnic majority in the state must study some years one minority language in their area. And so on.

If you want to build a civilized state of citizenry that respects each others, shares common progressive human values and doesn't live in fear and distrust towards each others, this is the way to go.

The way not to go is to slash and split citizenry into more or less homogeneous autonomies where all thinking shrinks around the question of ethnicity, making it artificially a matter larger than life itself.

The rich future of human kind has always had its seed in interaction and communication of people and peoples, and not in segregation.

Top

pre 12 godina

"There is absolutely no justification for maintaining these measures in the heart of Europe in the 21st century," Jeremić insisted.

The justification is that both entities in Bosnia are not willing to cooperate and form a government that fulfills the constitutional obligations.

Aleks

pre 12 godina

As usual, comments by people who do not actually address the issue. The OHR is inherently anti-democratic. Of course it is popular in Sarajevo because Sarajevo is afraid of dealing with Banja Luka on an equal basis. They prefer hiding under the skirts of foreigners as it allows them to a) blame the serbs for all Bosnia's ills, b) blame the 'international' community for anything else. This is used by Sarajevo to absolve its own responsibility to its own voters to provide jobs, education, pensions and a functioning economic system.

If Sarajevo's voters wish to continue paying obscene amounts of their own money on their numerous 'hero' soldiers, then that is their right. It is not their right to use other peoples hard earned money to subsidize these people and prop up an essentially the bankrupt economics Sarajevo practices. If they want to follow Titoist policies of borrowing endless money from the IMF to pay off their own factions, then on their head be it.

Brussels was clear last summer after they bailed out a Sarajevo on the brink of economic collapse. No more cash.

The SDA can vote for their own economic oblivion, but they can go down with their own ship

Only cowards want the OHR to remain, cowards that refuse to deliver what they have promised their own voters.

Wilberforce

pre 12 godina

If more then half the Bosnian population wants the high representative to remain in their country then let him remain there. I think the status of Sandzak, Presevo Valley, and Vojdovina are also open issues in Serbia that needs to be discussed. The Bosnian population in Sandzak is seeking autonomy from Serbia and Vuk has not addressed that issue. We need to see Serbia move on those issues and grant autonomy to it's Bosnian, Albanian, and Hungarian minorities in areas where they have historically and currently formed majorities.

iliri

pre 12 godina

'"This is a moment when we are being given a unique opportunity to attain durable solutions to the open issues of Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo," he added.''

If Dayton and Rambuille are open issues...How about the ''open'' issue of London Conference of 1913 ? ...How about the ''open'' issue of Triene ?

Wilberforce

pre 12 godina

If more then half the Bosnian population wants the high representative to remain in their country then let him remain there. I think the status of Sandzak, Presevo Valley, and Vojdovina are also open issues in Serbia that needs to be discussed. The Bosnian population in Sandzak is seeking autonomy from Serbia and Vuk has not addressed that issue. We need to see Serbia move on those issues and grant autonomy to it's Bosnian, Albanian, and Hungarian minorities in areas where they have historically and currently formed majorities.

iliri

pre 12 godina

'"This is a moment when we are being given a unique opportunity to attain durable solutions to the open issues of Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo," he added.''

If Dayton and Rambuille are open issues...How about the ''open'' issue of London Conference of 1913 ? ...How about the ''open'' issue of Triene ?

Aleks

pre 12 godina

As usual, comments by people who do not actually address the issue. The OHR is inherently anti-democratic. Of course it is popular in Sarajevo because Sarajevo is afraid of dealing with Banja Luka on an equal basis. They prefer hiding under the skirts of foreigners as it allows them to a) blame the serbs for all Bosnia's ills, b) blame the 'international' community for anything else. This is used by Sarajevo to absolve its own responsibility to its own voters to provide jobs, education, pensions and a functioning economic system.

If Sarajevo's voters wish to continue paying obscene amounts of their own money on their numerous 'hero' soldiers, then that is their right. It is not their right to use other peoples hard earned money to subsidize these people and prop up an essentially the bankrupt economics Sarajevo practices. If they want to follow Titoist policies of borrowing endless money from the IMF to pay off their own factions, then on their head be it.

Brussels was clear last summer after they bailed out a Sarajevo on the brink of economic collapse. No more cash.

The SDA can vote for their own economic oblivion, but they can go down with their own ship

Only cowards want the OHR to remain, cowards that refuse to deliver what they have promised their own voters.

Olli

pre 12 godina

Wilberforce,

Your tongue (or writing hand) sure is faster than your thinking.

The right way to go is to guarantee by legislation that all ethnicities possess fair chances of private and state sector employment. In other words: ethnicity must not be an advantage nor a hindrance for employment, as well as gender, or colour of one's skin, or your religion, must not be such. State must also support the existence of languages spoken by its citizenry, as well as guarantee that citizenry shares a common language. School children of ethnic majority in the state must study some years one minority language in their area. And so on.

If you want to build a civilized state of citizenry that respects each others, shares common progressive human values and doesn't live in fear and distrust towards each others, this is the way to go.

The way not to go is to slash and split citizenry into more or less homogeneous autonomies where all thinking shrinks around the question of ethnicity, making it artificially a matter larger than life itself.

The rich future of human kind has always had its seed in interaction and communication of people and peoples, and not in segregation.

Tulip

pre 12 godina

Serbia will "continue" to exercise a positive influence on Bosnia? The FM is suggesting here that Serbia is currently a positive on Bosnia? An interesting albeit laughable notion.

Outside of clearly violating some fairly basic diplomatic norms (e.g. meddling in another country's internal politics), the FM is completely avoiding the fact that Serbia has done nothing in Bosnia but continued the disastrous policies of the 90s through a less overt fashion. Jeremic, for his part, has been at the forefront of this cover assault on Bosnian citizens with his bogus "arrest warrants" that have been thrown out of every court in Europe and his governments steadfast support of the ultra-nationalist and chauvinist politics of Milorad Dodik.

I do, however, agree that the OHR needs to be phased out eventually, and that is a fundamentally anti-democratic institution. Of course, what he fails to mention is, in practice, the biggest supporters of the OHR in Bosnia are people like Dodik who continue to give the international community excuse to treat Bosnia like a colony because they do absolutely nothing to create stability or co-operation between Bosnia's communities.

This, of course, is precisely what Dodik wants. Dayton created an apartheid system in Bosnia that has allowed nationalist thugs like him to create personal empires on the misery of all Bosnians--of course whilst pretending to "defend" their respective communities for their very, very evil neighbors. Should Bosnia ever become a true democracy and, of course, take steps to reform the apartheid structure of Dayton, Dodik and friends will be gone faster than you can say "goodbye."

All the more reason why Jeremic's idea that the OHR ought to be an elected body is so laughable. What he is essentially suggesting is a elected executive, a single president for Bosnia. Isn't that precisely everything Dodik and even Serbia proper have been raging against for the past 20 years? For God's sake, Dodik won't even allow the Bosnia Football Federation to have a single president, and Jeremic thinks he'll agree to something a elected OHR? Please.

They're talking out of both sides of their mouth, to say the least.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

there NEVER was any justification for any foreign figure having any kind of power upon the bosnian poeples.

so, I would rather ask who it is, who dared to think that some monkey in a suit could wipe out things that elected representatives have done?

if the bosnian muslims were not that servile to the west, western occupiers wouldn´t be there now.

and of course it is only a question of time, that they will leave.

there is no power on this planet that can hold a nation of millions back to unite. and that will happen sooner or later.

and KiM will be liberated again, like right after WW I when with the Serbs there came fluent water and electricity to Kosovo...

this time it will be the rule of law and security. and the end of organized albanian crime.

and I think the european union will be glad this happens, once the time has come.

its all just a question of time. and of course a lot of Albanians will start their well known bla bla about being independent and "never again under serbian boot" and all that nonsense we´ve read so many times here...

please my dear k-albanian friends, finally stop acting as if you are victims. that would be a great thing for you too, just like a new step in evolution... facing the truth and standing on your own feet - what does not mean living from foreign help but from hard work. and that means quitting to sit in down-town Pristina in the cafe´s all day long.

where´s your pride, actually? why don´t you work for your living? why are you blaming the Serbs for your own faults?

...anyway, all will be fine, as I said, it´s all just a question of time.

Top

pre 12 godina

"There is absolutely no justification for maintaining these measures in the heart of Europe in the 21st century," Jeremić insisted.

The justification is that both entities in Bosnia are not willing to cooperate and form a government that fulfills the constitutional obligations.

Wilberforce

pre 12 godina

If more then half the Bosnian population wants the high representative to remain in their country then let him remain there. I think the status of Sandzak, Presevo Valley, and Vojdovina are also open issues in Serbia that needs to be discussed. The Bosnian population in Sandzak is seeking autonomy from Serbia and Vuk has not addressed that issue. We need to see Serbia move on those issues and grant autonomy to it's Bosnian, Albanian, and Hungarian minorities in areas where they have historically and currently formed majorities.

iliri

pre 12 godina

'"This is a moment when we are being given a unique opportunity to attain durable solutions to the open issues of Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo," he added.''

If Dayton and Rambuille are open issues...How about the ''open'' issue of London Conference of 1913 ? ...How about the ''open'' issue of Triene ?

Jovan

pre 12 godina

there NEVER was any justification for any foreign figure having any kind of power upon the bosnian poeples.

so, I would rather ask who it is, who dared to think that some monkey in a suit could wipe out things that elected representatives have done?

if the bosnian muslims were not that servile to the west, western occupiers wouldn´t be there now.

and of course it is only a question of time, that they will leave.

there is no power on this planet that can hold a nation of millions back to unite. and that will happen sooner or later.

and KiM will be liberated again, like right after WW I when with the Serbs there came fluent water and electricity to Kosovo...

this time it will be the rule of law and security. and the end of organized albanian crime.

and I think the european union will be glad this happens, once the time has come.

its all just a question of time. and of course a lot of Albanians will start their well known bla bla about being independent and "never again under serbian boot" and all that nonsense we´ve read so many times here...

please my dear k-albanian friends, finally stop acting as if you are victims. that would be a great thing for you too, just like a new step in evolution... facing the truth and standing on your own feet - what does not mean living from foreign help but from hard work. and that means quitting to sit in down-town Pristina in the cafe´s all day long.

where´s your pride, actually? why don´t you work for your living? why are you blaming the Serbs for your own faults?

...anyway, all will be fine, as I said, it´s all just a question of time.

Aleks

pre 12 godina

As usual, comments by people who do not actually address the issue. The OHR is inherently anti-democratic. Of course it is popular in Sarajevo because Sarajevo is afraid of dealing with Banja Luka on an equal basis. They prefer hiding under the skirts of foreigners as it allows them to a) blame the serbs for all Bosnia's ills, b) blame the 'international' community for anything else. This is used by Sarajevo to absolve its own responsibility to its own voters to provide jobs, education, pensions and a functioning economic system.

If Sarajevo's voters wish to continue paying obscene amounts of their own money on their numerous 'hero' soldiers, then that is their right. It is not their right to use other peoples hard earned money to subsidize these people and prop up an essentially the bankrupt economics Sarajevo practices. If they want to follow Titoist policies of borrowing endless money from the IMF to pay off their own factions, then on their head be it.

Brussels was clear last summer after they bailed out a Sarajevo on the brink of economic collapse. No more cash.

The SDA can vote for their own economic oblivion, but they can go down with their own ship

Only cowards want the OHR to remain, cowards that refuse to deliver what they have promised their own voters.

Olli

pre 12 godina

Wilberforce,

Your tongue (or writing hand) sure is faster than your thinking.

The right way to go is to guarantee by legislation that all ethnicities possess fair chances of private and state sector employment. In other words: ethnicity must not be an advantage nor a hindrance for employment, as well as gender, or colour of one's skin, or your religion, must not be such. State must also support the existence of languages spoken by its citizenry, as well as guarantee that citizenry shares a common language. School children of ethnic majority in the state must study some years one minority language in their area. And so on.

If you want to build a civilized state of citizenry that respects each others, shares common progressive human values and doesn't live in fear and distrust towards each others, this is the way to go.

The way not to go is to slash and split citizenry into more or less homogeneous autonomies where all thinking shrinks around the question of ethnicity, making it artificially a matter larger than life itself.

The rich future of human kind has always had its seed in interaction and communication of people and peoples, and not in segregation.

Top

pre 12 godina

"There is absolutely no justification for maintaining these measures in the heart of Europe in the 21st century," Jeremić insisted.

The justification is that both entities in Bosnia are not willing to cooperate and form a government that fulfills the constitutional obligations.

Tulip

pre 12 godina

Serbia will "continue" to exercise a positive influence on Bosnia? The FM is suggesting here that Serbia is currently a positive on Bosnia? An interesting albeit laughable notion.

Outside of clearly violating some fairly basic diplomatic norms (e.g. meddling in another country's internal politics), the FM is completely avoiding the fact that Serbia has done nothing in Bosnia but continued the disastrous policies of the 90s through a less overt fashion. Jeremic, for his part, has been at the forefront of this cover assault on Bosnian citizens with his bogus "arrest warrants" that have been thrown out of every court in Europe and his governments steadfast support of the ultra-nationalist and chauvinist politics of Milorad Dodik.

I do, however, agree that the OHR needs to be phased out eventually, and that is a fundamentally anti-democratic institution. Of course, what he fails to mention is, in practice, the biggest supporters of the OHR in Bosnia are people like Dodik who continue to give the international community excuse to treat Bosnia like a colony because they do absolutely nothing to create stability or co-operation between Bosnia's communities.

This, of course, is precisely what Dodik wants. Dayton created an apartheid system in Bosnia that has allowed nationalist thugs like him to create personal empires on the misery of all Bosnians--of course whilst pretending to "defend" their respective communities for their very, very evil neighbors. Should Bosnia ever become a true democracy and, of course, take steps to reform the apartheid structure of Dayton, Dodik and friends will be gone faster than you can say "goodbye."

All the more reason why Jeremic's idea that the OHR ought to be an elected body is so laughable. What he is essentially suggesting is a elected executive, a single president for Bosnia. Isn't that precisely everything Dodik and even Serbia proper have been raging against for the past 20 years? For God's sake, Dodik won't even allow the Bosnia Football Federation to have a single president, and Jeremic thinks he'll agree to something a elected OHR? Please.

They're talking out of both sides of their mouth, to say the least.