EC president: Serbia has long way to go

You will find nowhere in the criteria that "Kosovo must be recognized", but the criteria clearly shows that good neighborly relations are a must, and Kosovo is regarded as independent by the absolute majority of the EU, not mentioning the fact that even if we would regard it as those 5 renegade EU countries, it would still be the same as Cyprus. And that is what nobody wants in Europe.

So spare the breath about reports that "everything is on a good way", because it is not. That are diplomatic responses with no value when it comes to hard facts. Do your homework!
(JohnC., 20 May 2011 11:32

Your posting, as usual, shows that you haven't got a clue as far as the Cyprus problem is concerned.

The Republic of Cyprus is the ONLY recognised entity by the UN whereas the occupied part is only recognised by Turkey.Cyprus applied for membership of the EU,adopted all the laws and directives of the EU and became a full member in 2004.Since then the Turkish Cypriots became EU citizens and were able to settle in any EU country ( thousands of them have settled in the South),whereas the Greek Cypriots are not allowed by Turkey to visit their ancestral homes which are inhabited by the thousands of anatolian settlers from Turkey.Since the begining of 2011 several demonstrations by turkish cypriots took place in the north of cyprus against the Turkification and islamisation of the island.

You shouls also remember that the 5 countries you call "renegade" won't recognise the narco-mafia protectorate of kosovo unless there is a negotiated solution that will satisfy Serbia.

Read those 2 deadlines:

Tanjug: EC president: Kosovo not condition for integrations

B92: EC president: Serbia has long way to go

Tanjug never fails when it comes to put Belgrad's govermental agenda to put in a euphemistic (I would call it: misleading) light. It has been stated in various occasions, such as by "Reporters Without Borders", that neutral reports from Tanjug cannot be expected, since it is controlled by the Serbian government. This here with those almost completey opposing headlines shows this once again. Serbia is nowhere near the EU and cannot be part of it, until all major issues are resolved. This includes Kosovo. You will find nowhere in the criteria that "Kosovo must be recognized", but the criteria clearly shows that good neighborly relations are a must, and Kosovo is regarded as independent by the absolute majority of the EU, not mentioning the fact that even if we would regard it as those 5 renegade EU countries, it would still be the same as Cyprus. And that is what nobody wants in Europe.

So spare the breath about reports that "everything is on a good way", because it is not. That are diplomatic responses with no value when it comes to hard facts. Do your homework!

Today the 1-st International Legal Forum was opened in St-Petersburg. Strange to see it has no reflection on B92 cause the items discussed may have direct sequences for the Balkans. In his opening speech President Medvadev said the main idea of the Forum is to work out international rules regulating legislation between the countries shaken last decade. Another item of regional importance are the international Courts and their rights to interfere home affairs of the states. Also he offered to bar using internal (US) legislation against independent states and their citizens. I guess Balkan states have direct interest to stick to the Forum. Otherwise they rely on different contradicting fragmentations of what we keep on calling the International Law which lead to nowhere … Radicalism dominating the web will not help us to cope with the chaos we are living in.

"How long? 2020 long.
(ivan, 20 May 2011 16:18)"

That is still much faster than "Kosova" becoming a member of the UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC and the list goes on (which will not happen in my lifetime). If Pinocchio's nose grew by telling a lie and your nose would grow by boring us with your uneducated BS you nose would have encircled the equator at least three time. And that is is much longer than 2020 long. Have a nice weekend being obsessed with Serbia and Serbs.

Your problem as usual, Greco, is that completely missed the point. Neither the EU nor me questioned the territorial boundaries of Cyprus, or where in my words you read that?

The real problem is that EU accepted a half-baked state to enter the union without even a concept of solution. Brussels hoped that the mere joining would be enough to persuade the Northeners to comply and hoped that appeasement will work. But with that they only achieved that the problem was imported to the EU. Moreover, Turkey now regards this area as collateral for bargaining for their own political goals. Cyprus is now more a liability than ever and I doubt that both sides will come any nearer any time soon, because both have nothing what the other one really wants. It is again only the EU which is in between of this mess and this is certainly a mistake many in Brussels are not willing to accept again. In terms of Kosovo, it is even more difficult to accept Serbia in the EU (if not impossible) because the huge majority recognizes it. They will certainly not put this asside because they can't and here the momentum is certainly against Serbia, and no renegade and bankrupt Fakelakis will be able to change that. Serbia will either accept reality or simply continue to live in that current agonizing state in which investors will feel attracted by Serbia only when producing costs in Romania and Bulgaria are to high.
(JohnC., 20 May 2011 17:28)

It's you that misses the point because you ignore the fact that the EU entered into negotiations with the legally recognised goverment of the republic and not with a half-baked state as you call it.

The Turkish approach-like the Albanian one-has always been:what we've grabbed is ours and what is left you we share.They have rejected the notion of the republic and instead they demand "parthenogenesis" which means replacing the unrecognised puppet turkish regime with a larger recognised state.Furthermore,they want the legalisation of the thousands of anatolian settlers and turkey as the guarantor of the new state and the presence of the Turkish troops on the island for the foreseeable future.

The basic mistake the Greek Cypriots are making is they still have the illusion that the Turkish Cypriots are empowered to make a deal with the Greek Cypriots independently of Turkey.Turkey has already got the message from the Germans and the French that they will never be accepted in the EU and i don't believe there will be any kind of solution in Cyprus.Since Turkey refuses to recognise Cyprus i think the next step for Cyprus should be to pressurise the EU for the cancellation of customs union between the EU and Turkey.

Best if Tadic does not waste his time for friutless talks and calls to Mr.Potanin and asks him to build another "¨-mobile" ( http://top.rbc.ru/photoreport/12/10/2010/480722.shtml ) plant in Serbia. Before teaching Serbia and putting terms over the conditions they are to find a consensus inside EU. But now they spend their free time only to feed their own Complex Of Superiority. Let them first save EU from bankrupcy and then invite new members !

(Aleks, 20 May 2011 18:49)

Under the title at Balkan Insight it says the source is B92, so everything you wrote is nonsense.

Regarding Mathew Parish, he met his wife while working in Brcko and has since been a paid columnist for Transconflict Serbia. In other words he is a biased mouthpiece being paid with Serbian taxpayer money to write what they want to hear/read. But please, keep considering him and others like him names to watch, interesting sources etc, I find it all so amusing.
;)

Your problem as usual, Greco, is that completely missed the point. Neither the EU nor me questioned the territorial boundaries of Cyprus, or where in my words you read that?

The real problem is that EU accepted a half-baked state to enter the union without even a concept of solution. Brussels hoped that the mere joining would be enough to persuade the Northeners to comply and hoped that appeasement will work. But with that they only achieved that the problem was imported to the EU. Moreover, Turkey now regards this area as collateral for bargaining for their own political goals. Cyprus is now more a liability than ever and I doubt that both sides will come any nearer any time soon, because both have nothing what the other one really wants. It is again only the EU which is in between of this mess and this is certainly a mistake many in Brussels are not willing to accept again. In terms of Kosovo, it is even more difficult to accept Serbia in the EU (if not impossible) because the huge majority recognizes it. They will certainly not put this asside because they can't and here the momentum is certainly against Serbia, and no renegade and bankrupt Fakelakis will be able to change that. Serbia will either accept reality or simply continue to live in that current agonizing state in which investors will feel attracted by Serbia only when producing costs in Romania and Bulgaria are to high.

Well, here is a piece by Balkan Insite*, an official balkans propaganda channel for the empire:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/serbia-on-right-path-long-way-to-go-barosso-says

"Recognition of Kosovo 'Not a Condition'

Barroso, who asked Belgrade to call on Kosovo Serbs not to boycott the population census, repeated that Serbia would not be asked to recognise Kosovo's independence. However, the issue of Kosovo's independence will be discussed during the talks in Belgrade."

Maybe they are lying like Tanjug too? BI is definitely not neutral.

*Though they are an interesting sources and analyses, despite publishing the usual serbophobe rubbish by the ICG. Matthew Parish is a name to watch (he's also had several pieces in BI).

eu throws boris clooney under the bus. If that long way does not end in December with eu candidacy, the ds is finished. Can't wait.

How long? 2020 long.

"I believe that Serbia can complete the cooperation with the Hague Tribunal within a deadline which is determined by our European integration process"

How about Serbia arrests him by the end of June? It seems to me that they know exactly where Mladic is "hiding" in Belgrade and all that's required is a little nudge to arrest him. Serbia knows the conditions for candidate status include full cooperation with the Hague Tribunal. The report that the UN is going to receive is going to state that Serbia is not fully cooperating and is in fact doing next to nothing to arrest the remaining two fugitives. All EU politicians know that Mladic is living in Serbia and that he enjoys protection from state institutions. They also know that Belgrade can arrest him at will and has been able to do so for the past decade and a half. The only thing that will ever get Serbian authorities to fulfill their obligations is the offer of EU membership. As long as Serbia protects genocidal war criminals the EU will remain a distant dream. It's up to Serbian politicians to decide what's more important to them - EU membership and reelection or to continue protection Mladic and stay isolated from Europe and face a loss in the upcoming elections. Tadic has a choice to make and it's time he did the right thing and got Serbia to fulfill it's international legal obligations.

Read those 2 deadlines:

Tanjug: EC president: Kosovo not condition for integrations

B92: EC president: Serbia has long way to go

Tanjug never fails when it comes to put Belgrad's govermental agenda to put in a euphemistic (I would call it: misleading) light. It has been stated in various occasions, such as by "Reporters Without Borders", that neutral reports from Tanjug cannot be expected, since it is controlled by the Serbian government. This here with those almost completey opposing headlines shows this once again. Serbia is nowhere near the EU and cannot be part of it, until all major issues are resolved. This includes Kosovo. You will find nowhere in the criteria that "Kosovo must be recognized", but the criteria clearly shows that good neighborly relations are a must, and Kosovo is regarded as independent by the absolute majority of the EU, not mentioning the fact that even if we would regard it as those 5 renegade EU countries, it would still be the same as Cyprus. And that is what nobody wants in Europe.

So spare the breath about reports that "everything is on a good way", because it is not. That are diplomatic responses with no value when it comes to hard facts. Do your homework!

You will find nowhere in the criteria that "Kosovo must be recognized", but the criteria clearly shows that good neighborly relations are a must, and Kosovo is regarded as independent by the absolute majority of the EU, not mentioning the fact that even if we would regard it as those 5 renegade EU countries, it would still be the same as Cyprus. And that is what nobody wants in Europe.

So spare the breath about reports that "everything is on a good way", because it is not. That are diplomatic responses with no value when it comes to hard facts. Do your homework!
(JohnC., 20 May 2011 11:32

Your posting, as usual, shows that you haven't got a clue as far as the Cyprus problem is concerned.

The Republic of Cyprus is the ONLY recognised entity by the UN whereas the occupied part is only recognised by Turkey.Cyprus applied for membership of the EU,adopted all the laws and directives of the EU and became a full member in 2004.Since then the Turkish Cypriots became EU citizens and were able to settle in any EU country ( thousands of them have settled in the South),whereas the Greek Cypriots are not allowed by Turkey to visit their ancestral homes which are inhabited by the thousands of anatolian settlers from Turkey.Since the begining of 2011 several demonstrations by turkish cypriots took place in the north of cyprus against the Turkification and islamisation of the island.

You shouls also remember that the 5 countries you call "renegade" won't recognise the narco-mafia protectorate of kosovo unless there is a negotiated solution that will satisfy Serbia.

How long? 2020 long.

"I believe that Serbia can complete the cooperation with the Hague Tribunal within a deadline which is determined by our European integration process"

How about Serbia arrests him by the end of June? It seems to me that they know exactly where Mladic is "hiding" in Belgrade and all that's required is a little nudge to arrest him. Serbia knows the conditions for candidate status include full cooperation with the Hague Tribunal. The report that the UN is going to receive is going to state that Serbia is not fully cooperating and is in fact doing next to nothing to arrest the remaining two fugitives. All EU politicians know that Mladic is living in Serbia and that he enjoys protection from state institutions. They also know that Belgrade can arrest him at will and has been able to do so for the past decade and a half. The only thing that will ever get Serbian authorities to fulfill their obligations is the offer of EU membership. As long as Serbia protects genocidal war criminals the EU will remain a distant dream. It's up to Serbian politicians to decide what's more important to them - EU membership and reelection or to continue protection Mladic and stay isolated from Europe and face a loss in the upcoming elections. Tadic has a choice to make and it's time he did the right thing and got Serbia to fulfill it's international legal obligations.

Your problem as usual, Greco, is that completely missed the point. Neither the EU nor me questioned the territorial boundaries of Cyprus, or where in my words you read that?

The real problem is that EU accepted a half-baked state to enter the union without even a concept of solution. Brussels hoped that the mere joining would be enough to persuade the Northeners to comply and hoped that appeasement will work. But with that they only achieved that the problem was imported to the EU. Moreover, Turkey now regards this area as collateral for bargaining for their own political goals. Cyprus is now more a liability than ever and I doubt that both sides will come any nearer any time soon, because both have nothing what the other one really wants. It is again only the EU which is in between of this mess and this is certainly a mistake many in Brussels are not willing to accept again. In terms of Kosovo, it is even more difficult to accept Serbia in the EU (if not impossible) because the huge majority recognizes it. They will certainly not put this asside because they can't and here the momentum is certainly against Serbia, and no renegade and bankrupt Fakelakis will be able to change that. Serbia will either accept reality or simply continue to live in that current agonizing state in which investors will feel attracted by Serbia only when producing costs in Romania and Bulgaria are to high.

(Aleks, 20 May 2011 18:49)

Under the title at Balkan Insight it says the source is B92, so everything you wrote is nonsense.

Regarding Mathew Parish, he met his wife while working in Brcko and has since been a paid columnist for Transconflict Serbia. In other words he is a biased mouthpiece being paid with Serbian taxpayer money to write what they want to hear/read. But please, keep considering him and others like him names to watch, interesting sources etc, I find it all so amusing.
;)

"How long? 2020 long.
(ivan, 20 May 2011 16:18)"

That is still much faster than "Kosova" becoming a member of the UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC and the list goes on (which will not happen in my lifetime). If Pinocchio's nose grew by telling a lie and your nose would grow by boring us with your uneducated BS you nose would have encircled the equator at least three time. And that is is much longer than 2020 long. Have a nice weekend being obsessed with Serbia and Serbs.

Best if Tadic does not waste his time for friutless talks and calls to Mr.Potanin and asks him to build another "¨-mobile" ( http://top.rbc.ru/photoreport/12/10/2010/480722.shtml ) plant in Serbia. Before teaching Serbia and putting terms over the conditions they are to find a consensus inside EU. But now they spend their free time only to feed their own Complex Of Superiority. Let them first save EU from bankrupcy and then invite new members !

Your problem as usual, Greco, is that completely missed the point. Neither the EU nor me questioned the territorial boundaries of Cyprus, or where in my words you read that?

The real problem is that EU accepted a half-baked state to enter the union without even a concept of solution. Brussels hoped that the mere joining would be enough to persuade the Northeners to comply and hoped that appeasement will work. But with that they only achieved that the problem was imported to the EU. Moreover, Turkey now regards this area as collateral for bargaining for their own political goals. Cyprus is now more a liability than ever and I doubt that both sides will come any nearer any time soon, because both have nothing what the other one really wants. It is again only the EU which is in between of this mess and this is certainly a mistake many in Brussels are not willing to accept again. In terms of Kosovo, it is even more difficult to accept Serbia in the EU (if not impossible) because the huge majority recognizes it. They will certainly not put this asside because they can't and here the momentum is certainly against Serbia, and no renegade and bankrupt Fakelakis will be able to change that. Serbia will either accept reality or simply continue to live in that current agonizing state in which investors will feel attracted by Serbia only when producing costs in Romania and Bulgaria are to high.
(JohnC., 20 May 2011 17:28)

It's you that misses the point because you ignore the fact that the EU entered into negotiations with the legally recognised goverment of the republic and not with a half-baked state as you call it.

The Turkish approach-like the Albanian one-has always been:what we've grabbed is ours and what is left you we share.They have rejected the notion of the republic and instead they demand "parthenogenesis" which means replacing the unrecognised puppet turkish regime with a larger recognised state.Furthermore,they want the legalisation of the thousands of anatolian settlers and turkey as the guarantor of the new state and the presence of the Turkish troops on the island for the foreseeable future.

The basic mistake the Greek Cypriots are making is they still have the illusion that the Turkish Cypriots are empowered to make a deal with the Greek Cypriots independently of Turkey.Turkey has already got the message from the Germans and the French that they will never be accepted in the EU and i don't believe there will be any kind of solution in Cyprus.Since Turkey refuses to recognise Cyprus i think the next step for Cyprus should be to pressurise the EU for the cancellation of customs union between the EU and Turkey.

Today the 1-st International Legal Forum was opened in St-Petersburg. Strange to see it has no reflection on B92 cause the items discussed may have direct sequences for the Balkans. In his opening speech President Medvadev said the main idea of the Forum is to work out international rules regulating legislation between the countries shaken last decade. Another item of regional importance are the international Courts and their rights to interfere home affairs of the states. Also he offered to bar using internal (US) legislation against independent states and their citizens. I guess Balkan states have direct interest to stick to the Forum. Otherwise they rely on different contradicting fragmentations of what we keep on calling the International Law which lead to nowhere … Radicalism dominating the web will not help us to cope with the chaos we are living in.

Well, here is a piece by Balkan Insite*, an official balkans propaganda channel for the empire:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/serbia-on-right-path-long-way-to-go-barosso-says

"Recognition of Kosovo 'Not a Condition'

Barroso, who asked Belgrade to call on Kosovo Serbs not to boycott the population census, repeated that Serbia would not be asked to recognise Kosovo's independence. However, the issue of Kosovo's independence will be discussed during the talks in Belgrade."

Maybe they are lying like Tanjug too? BI is definitely not neutral.

*Though they are an interesting sources and analyses, despite publishing the usual serbophobe rubbish by the ICG. Matthew Parish is a name to watch (he's also had several pieces in BI).

eu throws boris clooney under the bus. If that long way does not end in December with eu candidacy, the ds is finished. Can't wait.