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Wednesday, 18.05.2011.

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Dačić in fresh Kosovo partition statements

Ivica Dačić says that international relations are such that it is unrealistic to expect that Kosovo and Metohija will remain part of Serbia.

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Fluid

pre 12 godina

"These Albanians claim they are so called decedents of Illyrians, but where are the buildings, bridges or even cave paintings etc to prove this claim????? The Turks were there for 600 years and they have left plenty of evidence of their occupation, but not the Albos.
(sj, 19 May 2011 14:00)"

Because you destroyed it all in 1912/13 when your Serbian army invaded Kosovo, destroyed all non-Serbian homes (after defeating the Albanian forces, who were exhausted fighting the Ottoman forces), and wanted to wipe out any evidence that anyone lived there.

Nenad

pre 12 godina

What does Prisitina have to offer? A pact with the US. Gee that’s worth a lot; a pact with a country that has lost one war on its own and in the process of losing 2 others with a little help from its NATO friends. Its a country that is so steeped in debt that it will take 3 generations to bring it under control; a country this is right now negotiating to sell its last gold reserves of 400 billion plus student loans and a couple of other items.

A country that in 18 months time will have a public debt of $17.1 trillion (14.3 now; a deficit of 1.60 in 2011 plus a deficit of 1.20 in 2012) and Dacic is worried about the Albanians having a pact with the US. Now if he is worried about the group of friends the US has – the UK – broke; they only had a two week window of opportunity with this Libyan war before the economic crises deepens in that country; so far it’s two months and now end in sight. France – they are no better than the UK but no one will mention this in the free western media. The others are not even worth talking about.
(sj, 19 May 2011 00:48)

OK, but tell us how Serbia is supposed to undo what has been done. Paint us a picture of how BRICS nations will go about returning all of Kosovo to Serbia. So sure of Russian/Chinese deliverance? Do us a favor and expound on your theory, rather than using this story as an opportunity to sound off on the US, UK and France (appearing just a bit like a sore loser in the process).

sj

pre 12 godina

This is simply not true. Go to Kosovo and see for yourself.
(Danilo, 18 May 2011 22:59)
These Albanians claim they are so called decedents of Illyrians, but where are the buildings, bridges or even cave paintings etc to prove this claim????? The Turks were there for 600 years and they have left plenty of evidence of their occupation, but not the Albos.

gjilanasi

pre 12 godina

As we can see from the article and from most of Serbian posters, Serbia is still dreaming on expanding its borders (towards Kosov, towards BiH etc.).
Looks like, no lesson is learned from last wars she was involved in.
Or maybe few people have learned so well how to be rich during the war situations and now they are willing to be rich again?!!!
Common...
Think about it.
No war would expand Serbian borders.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

The only thing that comes to my mind when I hear these "Kosovo partition plans" from the Serb side is the "Život damo, Trst ne damo" slogan after WWII.

Just like then, the decision has been made - the negotiations for Kosovo status have ended in 2006/2007, and these options are no longer on the table.

Dean

pre 12 godina

Are Serbian politicians so stupied/blind...
the US is on its last breath...
what will happen to the Albanians when their sponsor disappears?
(Mladen, 18 May 2011 16:33)
From my very personal observation,the collapse of an Empire is usualy associated with hunger,poverty and WAR/s.U better Pray nothing happens. USA is 2 big 2 fail,but what we r talking abou here,is something known as ''soft landing''.It will take at least 25-35 years 4 a big airplan,such as USA,to touch down safely.The count down started about 4 years ago.HOWEVER,even if ur ''PROFECY'' is wright,Ironically and unfortunatly 4 u,the first who is going 2 help is CHINA and Russia if the problem gets worst.This is how it works,one hand wash the other and both hands wash the face.
About Serbian politicians being ''stupied/blind'' as u claim.Wrong again.They have got more information then you do.They KNOW things,u don't Mladen.
About Albanians now.It is up 2 Serbs,HOWEVER,if u still think and behave the same u have 4 the last 2 centuries,WE have no choice but 2 cooperate with Aliens,against u.
From an Orthodox Albanian,of South Albania.
(Note:the reasson why I stressed my religous Identity,is just 2 ensure You Mladen,and all Serbs,that,NO feelings of Religious Hatred were involved,during the time I was typing my comment)

sj

pre 12 godina

Dacic is a chardonnay socialist; he is a democrat during the day, who visits Milosevic’s grave by night. I have no time for either part of his personality as he would sell out his own mother for a couple of Euros.

And that’s the pertinent point here. He is “testing the waters” – an old trick done by western politicians to see popular reaction. Western politicians do this more often before a budget is delivered – leak information - to gauge reaction or to physiologically soften up the populace when the budget is finally delivered and people would say that it was not a bad as they thought it would be.

What does Prisitina have to offer? A pact with the US. Gee that’s worth a lot; a pact with a country that has lost one war on its own and in the process of losing 2 others with a little help from its NATO friends. Its a country that is so steeped in debt that it will take 3 generations to bring it under control; a country this is right now negotiating to sell its last gold reserves of 400 billion plus student loans and a couple of other items.

A country that in 18 months time will have a public debt of $17.1 trillion (14.3 now; a deficit of 1.60 in 2011 plus a deficit of 1.20 in 2012) and Dacic is worried about the Albanians having a pact with the US. Now if he is worried about the group of friends the US has – the UK – broke; they only had a two week window of opportunity with this Libyan war before the economic crises deepens in that country; so far it’s two months and now end in sight. France – they are no better than the UK but no one will mention this in the free western media. The others are not even worth talking about.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

What about the God-like powerful constitution of the republic of serbija?
Speaking like that is probably treasonous in Bg. oO!


Thanks,

Danilo

pre 12 godina

it's weird how people who have obviously never been to Kosovo repeat how there are no traces of Albanians in Kosovo - no medieval mosques, for example.

This is simply not true. Go to Kosovo and see for yourself.

Paul

pre 12 godina

The issue, once again, is borders. If Serbia gives up Kosovo (and Metohija) in exchange for fragments of outposts inside Kosovo, then the next step among the Kosovo Albanians is unification with Albania. When Albania has a border with Serbia where it cannot control the other side of the border as it can in Kosovo now, then the trouble really begins.

Notice the other news item about Kosovo police harrasing a Serbian businessman in northern Kosovo. He is being investigated for organized crime and none of his offenses have anything to do with trafficking either drugs or people. What a joke!

When Serbian borders are softened by the existance of outposts in Kosovo, then this kind pretense will no longer be necessary. Nobody really want Kosovo's borders run by Albanians on either side anywhere and especially between Kosovo and Albania. Kosovo run by Albanians will never be safe from organized crime coming out of Albania. Albania is the real source of problems in the area, even more than Kosovo run by Albanians where international observers tend to hobble them a great deal.

Demi

pre 12 godina

Dacic is a very smart guy in difference from other serbian leaders. He notice that Kosovo will never be ruled by Serbia as long as albanians live there and want to save what wrelly can be saved. One thing he dosen't know yet is that we albanians will never accept an partition of Kosovo and such a suggest will not succed. 25% albanians in Macedonia have more right to split from Macedonia than 7 % serbs from Kosovo.

The borders are settled and it is time to move on. America and Europe will not accept more division among the countrys of the Balkans. That means Serbia will not get RS or N.Kosovo as they wish. Albanians will not get W.Macedonia or S.Montenegro as they wish.


Despite war between albanians and macedonians in 2001 the people now live together in an multiethnic Macedonia. EU dosent accept further tensions there and albanians and macedonians have to respect each other and get along. The same will happend in an multiethnic Kosovo where serbs and albaninans will get along. Serbs will not succed to secede from Kosovo or Bosnia. They have no right to do that since they are not repressed by the goverment of Kosovo or Bosnia.

Kosovo had the right to secede from Serbia since what the regime in Belgrade did to albanians during the 80's and 90's and the war in 1998-99. 1 Million albanians repressed to leave their homes and more than 10 000 murdered by serbian military forces. I tell this before you jump on to ask '''why Kosovo but not RS ?''

RSA

pre 12 godina

Sometimes when a part of the body is rotting you have to cut it off to save the rest of the body. Save what you can before it's too late, before the rot creaps closer and takes the rest of the body.

Zirb

pre 12 godina

This man should be kicked from the coalition and put on trial for treason to make such declaration which is against the very constitution of Serbia. Plus, he's a douchebag communist. We should exchange Seselj for this guy.

Top

pre 12 godina

"then there are the issues of the churches and monasteries which serbia claims, but which are part of kosova's cultural/ religious heritage. so this partitioning really becomes quite problematic. "
(roberto, 18 May 2011 17:50)

Serbian orthodox churches are part of Kosova's cultural and religious heritage? You give me a laugh now. But interesting somehow. I wonder what the Kosovo Albanian cultural heritage might be. Some medieval mosques? Old fortresses or castles where Skenderbeg once lived? Oops, there are no such things? Must be all destroyed by Serbs, I guess. How else could it be, we all know that Albanians, oops, Illyrians, lived there for 10,000s of years, don't we? ;-)

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

roberto!

After reading your last post, i now know for sure that you have no idea of Jugoslavian history and that you just make of crap as you go along.

Your views are blinded by your hatred combined with your emotions, that you always make these stupid statements without ever supporting facts.

Well i have a fact for your roberto!

Serbians don't care to baby sit, breast feed and prop up you Bosnianks, or whatever term you muslims want to use today.

There is no doubt that Serbians, Croations and Bosniaks should be segregated, or otherwise there wouldn't have been the break up of Jugoslavia.

What gives you the right to force your culture, religion and regime on Serbians.

Besides "turska cafa", what do you Bosniaks have to offer Serbia?

Danijel

pre 12 godina

It is no surprise to me that Dacic is making such absurd proposals. The coalition government in Serbia is a complete joke, which is clearly a product of the West, it is not in the nature of most decent Serbs to want such a rule in their country, but they have no choice. The DS and SPS are supposed to be sworn enemies, since Dacic's mentor Milosevic, and Tadic's mentor Djindjic were so opposed to eachother, now Dacic and Tadic are in bed together. This is just the first step of the Serbian "government" getting rid of Kosovo so that they can persue their dreadful dream of joining the EU, which will finish Serbia off as a sovereign state. Mladen a few comments below makes a good point, what will the Albanians do when their western sponsors loose interest? Well, they will be left to fight for themselves as they should be, and hopefully the Serbian people will rise up to claim what is their territory. But as long as Serbia has a puppet government, this will not happen.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

if Mr.Dacic is on the payroll of the statedepartment, then this would make sense.

but why for heavens sake should Serbia give away anything that is serbian anyway? there are no presents to be made, this is not the topic to speak out every ever so stupid idea loudly.

seems like we´ve got someone here who is silently working for the opponent.

no, there is no need to partition anything. its all serbian, and the US are slowly but surely losing grip. just yesterday the Visegrad-group has announced the formation of an own military unit, independent from NATO, what shows how much influence the US have at all at the moment.

taken that aside, the Russians are coming back, China is on the rise anyway, and the BRICS-states are going to take over the economic lead position within a few years, so there is absolutely no reason to give in to partition-phantasies that would only favour the k-albanian terrorist-regime in Pristina.

no, Dacic, better be quiet with your ideas and perhaps it´d be better for you to look for a nice and comfortable place over there in Washington D.C.

because with ideas like that, you make yourself quite unpopular.

roberto

pre 12 godina

--Balkans should function as a group of multinational states with the vision to join the EU. Any other formula will be difficult to put in practice
(Creative Rationality, 18 May 2011 15:12)--

I basically agree w/you CR. the never-ending partitions for ethnic cleanliness (so-called) are immoral, unattainable, and basically impossible. i tried to explain this in a recent posting (censored!!): w/ mitrovica, just as one example, you have albanians and bosnians living in the southern part of the north. i know this for a fact, since we were given the grand tour by the nice eulex official in the north and eulex never lies...

so, you'd have to cut some kind of bizarre, old e/w berlin-like border, through alleys, churches and streets, rather than at the ibar itself.

plus you have serbs living throughout kosova, not just in the N and the "enclaves." i've seen them -- and their nice little placards, in and around pristina, and anyone that lives there and actually knows the truth will back me up. so how do you partition throughout a country? then there are the issues of the churches and monasteries which serbia claims, but which are part of kosova's cultural/ religious heritage. so this partitioning really becomes quite problematic.

and in serbia itself, for various complex historical reasons (not to mention the mass murders and forced exiles perpetrated on its neighbors, you have, ironically, a certain # of minorities residing inside the country. many in more-or-less cosmopolitan belgrade, but also scattered, and certainly close to the borders. preseva would be the first to bolt, and for good reasonS. so it will be never-ending.

every nation is multi-ethnic to some extent and needs to learn to deal with it in a healthy way, or will inevitable see rebellion and independence movements.

what is necessary is to guarantee full citizenship for ALL citizens. but how can serbia do so? even if they wanted to, their own (kostunica) constitution states otherwise, and the loyal party media continue in the same anti-democratic direction.

thanks! tung. roberto frisco

Crna Ruka

pre 12 godina

It was all just a matter of time. The Tadic government hope from the beginning was that they could eventually convince the Serbs to completely give up Kosovo, so that he could please his Western Masters. The only thing stopping him is that he will lose the next election, and even all the rantings of the Western officials are just to make Tadic look better in the eyes of Serbs, they also know that he would lose his seat, and that is something they don't want, because they need him or another like him to accomplish their goals against Serbia. Serbs will likely be stupid enough to vote for Tadic again in the next elections, and he will give up Kosovo then if he is able to convince the Serbs that it is the only way for them to have prosperity in the future. And if it looks like he can't convince the Serbs of that, then I don't think the West will wait for another term, but will make it happen in some other way.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Looks like our KiM Albanians fear partition more than anything so maybe they will save KiM and start negotiating faithfully? I doubt very much a formal partition is on the agenda but the threat of it could push negotiations further. A functional partition is reality and that's what these negotiation should seal.

highduke

pre 12 godina

The fact that he's talking about the US as some decisive key player when we no longer live in 90s or 00s plus that he's not even mentioning how much territory is to be exchanged, all while we're initiating the organ-trafficking investigation against Albanian elites is evidence that this is a all a ruse to give Albanian public false hope in the aftermath of the recent styrofoam-vandalism against negotiators' vehicles.

Mladen

pre 12 godina

Are Serbian politicians so stupied/blind...
the US is on its last breath...

what will happen to the Albanians when their sponsor disappears?

Nenad

pre 12 godina

At this rate, partition would seem sensible. In fact, the idea has been alive in Serbian circles for many years. Milan Milutinovic, I think Serbia's foreign minister at the time, opined to US diplomats in the mid 90s that Kosovo would most likely be partitioned 15-20 years from that point (so right around now) and that the K-Albanians would be allowed to leave Serbia.

Realistically, there doesn't seem to be anything that Belgrade can do to reclaim control over the Albanian-dominated areas and there isn't much that Pristina can do about the Serb-dominated north. So for the sake of all citizens in the region, let's just make a deal and move on.

But I suppose we have to wait things out a bit longer as the politicians continue to work for maximum gain.

Obilic

pre 12 godina

Is there anyone in the Serbian govt. that is actually for Srbija, or are they all puppets??? Our ancestors must be rolling in their graves!

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

There should not be partitions because they may open new wounds. Kosovo should remain a state as whole and begin to have bi-lateral and multilateral relations with the nations, otherwise all the Balkans will feel the pain. When it come to partition ever nation has nationalistic myths some based on some realities and would like to annex territorier that now belong to other recognised states. For instance:

-Albanians may want territory up to Nis, and half of Macedonia, 1/3 of Montenegro and 1/8 of Greece.

-Serbs would want nearly half of Bosnia and 1/3 of Montenegro

-Bosnians would want more than half Bosnia, which includes Srbrenica and Sanjak region.

-Croats may want some area in Bosnia, and small area of Serbia up to Zemun.

-Hungarians may want Vojvodina, Transylvania in Romania, and Komárno and Dunajská Streda from Slovakia.

-Bulgarians would want the rest of Macedonia etc...

Balkans should function as a group of multinational states with the vision to join the EU. Any other formula will be difficult to put in practice

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

There are only 1 million Kosovo Albanians living in Serbia's Province.

Half of those Albanians are in prison and the other half can be divided into two parts.

The first part has criminal tendencies and will be in prison very soon and the latter will most likely move to a Western Country that had acknowledged their UDI so that they can commit a crime.

At this rate Kosovo will be left for Serbians and Americans of Campbondsteel.

All the makings for a great basketball finals Serbian victory and where the losers must go home.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

“Why would Priština agree to give away anything when it is certain to have a pact with the U.S.?” Dačić wondered.

I got to hand it to Dacic, the man is right on this one.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

“Why would Priština agree to give away anything when it is certain to have a pact with the U.S.?” Dačić wondered.

I got to hand it to Dacic, the man is right on this one.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

There are only 1 million Kosovo Albanians living in Serbia's Province.

Half of those Albanians are in prison and the other half can be divided into two parts.

The first part has criminal tendencies and will be in prison very soon and the latter will most likely move to a Western Country that had acknowledged their UDI so that they can commit a crime.

At this rate Kosovo will be left for Serbians and Americans of Campbondsteel.

All the makings for a great basketball finals Serbian victory and where the losers must go home.

Mladen

pre 12 godina

Are Serbian politicians so stupied/blind...
the US is on its last breath...

what will happen to the Albanians when their sponsor disappears?

Obilic

pre 12 godina

Is there anyone in the Serbian govt. that is actually for Srbija, or are they all puppets??? Our ancestors must be rolling in their graves!

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

There should not be partitions because they may open new wounds. Kosovo should remain a state as whole and begin to have bi-lateral and multilateral relations with the nations, otherwise all the Balkans will feel the pain. When it come to partition ever nation has nationalistic myths some based on some realities and would like to annex territorier that now belong to other recognised states. For instance:

-Albanians may want territory up to Nis, and half of Macedonia, 1/3 of Montenegro and 1/8 of Greece.

-Serbs would want nearly half of Bosnia and 1/3 of Montenegro

-Bosnians would want more than half Bosnia, which includes Srbrenica and Sanjak region.

-Croats may want some area in Bosnia, and small area of Serbia up to Zemun.

-Hungarians may want Vojvodina, Transylvania in Romania, and Komárno and Dunajská Streda from Slovakia.

-Bulgarians would want the rest of Macedonia etc...

Balkans should function as a group of multinational states with the vision to join the EU. Any other formula will be difficult to put in practice

roberto

pre 12 godina

--Balkans should function as a group of multinational states with the vision to join the EU. Any other formula will be difficult to put in practice
(Creative Rationality, 18 May 2011 15:12)--

I basically agree w/you CR. the never-ending partitions for ethnic cleanliness (so-called) are immoral, unattainable, and basically impossible. i tried to explain this in a recent posting (censored!!): w/ mitrovica, just as one example, you have albanians and bosnians living in the southern part of the north. i know this for a fact, since we were given the grand tour by the nice eulex official in the north and eulex never lies...

so, you'd have to cut some kind of bizarre, old e/w berlin-like border, through alleys, churches and streets, rather than at the ibar itself.

plus you have serbs living throughout kosova, not just in the N and the "enclaves." i've seen them -- and their nice little placards, in and around pristina, and anyone that lives there and actually knows the truth will back me up. so how do you partition throughout a country? then there are the issues of the churches and monasteries which serbia claims, but which are part of kosova's cultural/ religious heritage. so this partitioning really becomes quite problematic.

and in serbia itself, for various complex historical reasons (not to mention the mass murders and forced exiles perpetrated on its neighbors, you have, ironically, a certain # of minorities residing inside the country. many in more-or-less cosmopolitan belgrade, but also scattered, and certainly close to the borders. preseva would be the first to bolt, and for good reasonS. so it will be never-ending.

every nation is multi-ethnic to some extent and needs to learn to deal with it in a healthy way, or will inevitable see rebellion and independence movements.

what is necessary is to guarantee full citizenship for ALL citizens. but how can serbia do so? even if they wanted to, their own (kostunica) constitution states otherwise, and the loyal party media continue in the same anti-democratic direction.

thanks! tung. roberto frisco

Crna Ruka

pre 12 godina

It was all just a matter of time. The Tadic government hope from the beginning was that they could eventually convince the Serbs to completely give up Kosovo, so that he could please his Western Masters. The only thing stopping him is that he will lose the next election, and even all the rantings of the Western officials are just to make Tadic look better in the eyes of Serbs, they also know that he would lose his seat, and that is something they don't want, because they need him or another like him to accomplish their goals against Serbia. Serbs will likely be stupid enough to vote for Tadic again in the next elections, and he will give up Kosovo then if he is able to convince the Serbs that it is the only way for them to have prosperity in the future. And if it looks like he can't convince the Serbs of that, then I don't think the West will wait for another term, but will make it happen in some other way.

Nenad

pre 12 godina

At this rate, partition would seem sensible. In fact, the idea has been alive in Serbian circles for many years. Milan Milutinovic, I think Serbia's foreign minister at the time, opined to US diplomats in the mid 90s that Kosovo would most likely be partitioned 15-20 years from that point (so right around now) and that the K-Albanians would be allowed to leave Serbia.

Realistically, there doesn't seem to be anything that Belgrade can do to reclaim control over the Albanian-dominated areas and there isn't much that Pristina can do about the Serb-dominated north. So for the sake of all citizens in the region, let's just make a deal and move on.

But I suppose we have to wait things out a bit longer as the politicians continue to work for maximum gain.

Top

pre 12 godina

"then there are the issues of the churches and monasteries which serbia claims, but which are part of kosova's cultural/ religious heritage. so this partitioning really becomes quite problematic. "
(roberto, 18 May 2011 17:50)

Serbian orthodox churches are part of Kosova's cultural and religious heritage? You give me a laugh now. But interesting somehow. I wonder what the Kosovo Albanian cultural heritage might be. Some medieval mosques? Old fortresses or castles where Skenderbeg once lived? Oops, there are no such things? Must be all destroyed by Serbs, I guess. How else could it be, we all know that Albanians, oops, Illyrians, lived there for 10,000s of years, don't we? ;-)

highduke

pre 12 godina

The fact that he's talking about the US as some decisive key player when we no longer live in 90s or 00s plus that he's not even mentioning how much territory is to be exchanged, all while we're initiating the organ-trafficking investigation against Albanian elites is evidence that this is a all a ruse to give Albanian public false hope in the aftermath of the recent styrofoam-vandalism against negotiators' vehicles.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Looks like our KiM Albanians fear partition more than anything so maybe they will save KiM and start negotiating faithfully? I doubt very much a formal partition is on the agenda but the threat of it could push negotiations further. A functional partition is reality and that's what these negotiation should seal.

Demi

pre 12 godina

Dacic is a very smart guy in difference from other serbian leaders. He notice that Kosovo will never be ruled by Serbia as long as albanians live there and want to save what wrelly can be saved. One thing he dosen't know yet is that we albanians will never accept an partition of Kosovo and such a suggest will not succed. 25% albanians in Macedonia have more right to split from Macedonia than 7 % serbs from Kosovo.

The borders are settled and it is time to move on. America and Europe will not accept more division among the countrys of the Balkans. That means Serbia will not get RS or N.Kosovo as they wish. Albanians will not get W.Macedonia or S.Montenegro as they wish.


Despite war between albanians and macedonians in 2001 the people now live together in an multiethnic Macedonia. EU dosent accept further tensions there and albanians and macedonians have to respect each other and get along. The same will happend in an multiethnic Kosovo where serbs and albaninans will get along. Serbs will not succed to secede from Kosovo or Bosnia. They have no right to do that since they are not repressed by the goverment of Kosovo or Bosnia.

Kosovo had the right to secede from Serbia since what the regime in Belgrade did to albanians during the 80's and 90's and the war in 1998-99. 1 Million albanians repressed to leave their homes and more than 10 000 murdered by serbian military forces. I tell this before you jump on to ask '''why Kosovo but not RS ?''

Jovan

pre 12 godina

if Mr.Dacic is on the payroll of the statedepartment, then this would make sense.

but why for heavens sake should Serbia give away anything that is serbian anyway? there are no presents to be made, this is not the topic to speak out every ever so stupid idea loudly.

seems like we´ve got someone here who is silently working for the opponent.

no, there is no need to partition anything. its all serbian, and the US are slowly but surely losing grip. just yesterday the Visegrad-group has announced the formation of an own military unit, independent from NATO, what shows how much influence the US have at all at the moment.

taken that aside, the Russians are coming back, China is on the rise anyway, and the BRICS-states are going to take over the economic lead position within a few years, so there is absolutely no reason to give in to partition-phantasies that would only favour the k-albanian terrorist-regime in Pristina.

no, Dacic, better be quiet with your ideas and perhaps it´d be better for you to look for a nice and comfortable place over there in Washington D.C.

because with ideas like that, you make yourself quite unpopular.

Danijel

pre 12 godina

It is no surprise to me that Dacic is making such absurd proposals. The coalition government in Serbia is a complete joke, which is clearly a product of the West, it is not in the nature of most decent Serbs to want such a rule in their country, but they have no choice. The DS and SPS are supposed to be sworn enemies, since Dacic's mentor Milosevic, and Tadic's mentor Djindjic were so opposed to eachother, now Dacic and Tadic are in bed together. This is just the first step of the Serbian "government" getting rid of Kosovo so that they can persue their dreadful dream of joining the EU, which will finish Serbia off as a sovereign state. Mladen a few comments below makes a good point, what will the Albanians do when their western sponsors loose interest? Well, they will be left to fight for themselves as they should be, and hopefully the Serbian people will rise up to claim what is their territory. But as long as Serbia has a puppet government, this will not happen.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

roberto!

After reading your last post, i now know for sure that you have no idea of Jugoslavian history and that you just make of crap as you go along.

Your views are blinded by your hatred combined with your emotions, that you always make these stupid statements without ever supporting facts.

Well i have a fact for your roberto!

Serbians don't care to baby sit, breast feed and prop up you Bosnianks, or whatever term you muslims want to use today.

There is no doubt that Serbians, Croations and Bosniaks should be segregated, or otherwise there wouldn't have been the break up of Jugoslavia.

What gives you the right to force your culture, religion and regime on Serbians.

Besides "turska cafa", what do you Bosniaks have to offer Serbia?

Zirb

pre 12 godina

This man should be kicked from the coalition and put on trial for treason to make such declaration which is against the very constitution of Serbia. Plus, he's a douchebag communist. We should exchange Seselj for this guy.

RSA

pre 12 godina

Sometimes when a part of the body is rotting you have to cut it off to save the rest of the body. Save what you can before it's too late, before the rot creaps closer and takes the rest of the body.

Paul

pre 12 godina

The issue, once again, is borders. If Serbia gives up Kosovo (and Metohija) in exchange for fragments of outposts inside Kosovo, then the next step among the Kosovo Albanians is unification with Albania. When Albania has a border with Serbia where it cannot control the other side of the border as it can in Kosovo now, then the trouble really begins.

Notice the other news item about Kosovo police harrasing a Serbian businessman in northern Kosovo. He is being investigated for organized crime and none of his offenses have anything to do with trafficking either drugs or people. What a joke!

When Serbian borders are softened by the existance of outposts in Kosovo, then this kind pretense will no longer be necessary. Nobody really want Kosovo's borders run by Albanians on either side anywhere and especially between Kosovo and Albania. Kosovo run by Albanians will never be safe from organized crime coming out of Albania. Albania is the real source of problems in the area, even more than Kosovo run by Albanians where international observers tend to hobble them a great deal.

sj

pre 12 godina

This is simply not true. Go to Kosovo and see for yourself.
(Danilo, 18 May 2011 22:59)
These Albanians claim they are so called decedents of Illyrians, but where are the buildings, bridges or even cave paintings etc to prove this claim????? The Turks were there for 600 years and they have left plenty of evidence of their occupation, but not the Albos.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

What about the God-like powerful constitution of the republic of serbija?
Speaking like that is probably treasonous in Bg. oO!


Thanks,

Danilo

pre 12 godina

it's weird how people who have obviously never been to Kosovo repeat how there are no traces of Albanians in Kosovo - no medieval mosques, for example.

This is simply not true. Go to Kosovo and see for yourself.

sj

pre 12 godina

Dacic is a chardonnay socialist; he is a democrat during the day, who visits Milosevic’s grave by night. I have no time for either part of his personality as he would sell out his own mother for a couple of Euros.

And that’s the pertinent point here. He is “testing the waters” – an old trick done by western politicians to see popular reaction. Western politicians do this more often before a budget is delivered – leak information - to gauge reaction or to physiologically soften up the populace when the budget is finally delivered and people would say that it was not a bad as they thought it would be.

What does Prisitina have to offer? A pact with the US. Gee that’s worth a lot; a pact with a country that has lost one war on its own and in the process of losing 2 others with a little help from its NATO friends. Its a country that is so steeped in debt that it will take 3 generations to bring it under control; a country this is right now negotiating to sell its last gold reserves of 400 billion plus student loans and a couple of other items.

A country that in 18 months time will have a public debt of $17.1 trillion (14.3 now; a deficit of 1.60 in 2011 plus a deficit of 1.20 in 2012) and Dacic is worried about the Albanians having a pact with the US. Now if he is worried about the group of friends the US has – the UK – broke; they only had a two week window of opportunity with this Libyan war before the economic crises deepens in that country; so far it’s two months and now end in sight. France – they are no better than the UK but no one will mention this in the free western media. The others are not even worth talking about.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

The only thing that comes to my mind when I hear these "Kosovo partition plans" from the Serb side is the "Život damo, Trst ne damo" slogan after WWII.

Just like then, the decision has been made - the negotiations for Kosovo status have ended in 2006/2007, and these options are no longer on the table.

gjilanasi

pre 12 godina

As we can see from the article and from most of Serbian posters, Serbia is still dreaming on expanding its borders (towards Kosov, towards BiH etc.).
Looks like, no lesson is learned from last wars she was involved in.
Or maybe few people have learned so well how to be rich during the war situations and now they are willing to be rich again?!!!
Common...
Think about it.
No war would expand Serbian borders.

Dean

pre 12 godina

Are Serbian politicians so stupied/blind...
the US is on its last breath...
what will happen to the Albanians when their sponsor disappears?
(Mladen, 18 May 2011 16:33)
From my very personal observation,the collapse of an Empire is usualy associated with hunger,poverty and WAR/s.U better Pray nothing happens. USA is 2 big 2 fail,but what we r talking abou here,is something known as ''soft landing''.It will take at least 25-35 years 4 a big airplan,such as USA,to touch down safely.The count down started about 4 years ago.HOWEVER,even if ur ''PROFECY'' is wright,Ironically and unfortunatly 4 u,the first who is going 2 help is CHINA and Russia if the problem gets worst.This is how it works,one hand wash the other and both hands wash the face.
About Serbian politicians being ''stupied/blind'' as u claim.Wrong again.They have got more information then you do.They KNOW things,u don't Mladen.
About Albanians now.It is up 2 Serbs,HOWEVER,if u still think and behave the same u have 4 the last 2 centuries,WE have no choice but 2 cooperate with Aliens,against u.
From an Orthodox Albanian,of South Albania.
(Note:the reasson why I stressed my religous Identity,is just 2 ensure You Mladen,and all Serbs,that,NO feelings of Religious Hatred were involved,during the time I was typing my comment)

Nenad

pre 12 godina

What does Prisitina have to offer? A pact with the US. Gee that’s worth a lot; a pact with a country that has lost one war on its own and in the process of losing 2 others with a little help from its NATO friends. Its a country that is so steeped in debt that it will take 3 generations to bring it under control; a country this is right now negotiating to sell its last gold reserves of 400 billion plus student loans and a couple of other items.

A country that in 18 months time will have a public debt of $17.1 trillion (14.3 now; a deficit of 1.60 in 2011 plus a deficit of 1.20 in 2012) and Dacic is worried about the Albanians having a pact with the US. Now if he is worried about the group of friends the US has – the UK – broke; they only had a two week window of opportunity with this Libyan war before the economic crises deepens in that country; so far it’s two months and now end in sight. France – they are no better than the UK but no one will mention this in the free western media. The others are not even worth talking about.
(sj, 19 May 2011 00:48)

OK, but tell us how Serbia is supposed to undo what has been done. Paint us a picture of how BRICS nations will go about returning all of Kosovo to Serbia. So sure of Russian/Chinese deliverance? Do us a favor and expound on your theory, rather than using this story as an opportunity to sound off on the US, UK and France (appearing just a bit like a sore loser in the process).

Fluid

pre 12 godina

"These Albanians claim they are so called decedents of Illyrians, but where are the buildings, bridges or even cave paintings etc to prove this claim????? The Turks were there for 600 years and they have left plenty of evidence of their occupation, but not the Albos.
(sj, 19 May 2011 14:00)"

Because you destroyed it all in 1912/13 when your Serbian army invaded Kosovo, destroyed all non-Serbian homes (after defeating the Albanian forces, who were exhausted fighting the Ottoman forces), and wanted to wipe out any evidence that anyone lived there.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

There are only 1 million Kosovo Albanians living in Serbia's Province.

Half of those Albanians are in prison and the other half can be divided into two parts.

The first part has criminal tendencies and will be in prison very soon and the latter will most likely move to a Western Country that had acknowledged their UDI so that they can commit a crime.

At this rate Kosovo will be left for Serbians and Americans of Campbondsteel.

All the makings for a great basketball finals Serbian victory and where the losers must go home.

Obilic

pre 12 godina

Is there anyone in the Serbian govt. that is actually for Srbija, or are they all puppets??? Our ancestors must be rolling in their graves!

Mladen

pre 12 godina

Are Serbian politicians so stupied/blind...
the US is on its last breath...

what will happen to the Albanians when their sponsor disappears?

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

There should not be partitions because they may open new wounds. Kosovo should remain a state as whole and begin to have bi-lateral and multilateral relations with the nations, otherwise all the Balkans will feel the pain. When it come to partition ever nation has nationalistic myths some based on some realities and would like to annex territorier that now belong to other recognised states. For instance:

-Albanians may want territory up to Nis, and half of Macedonia, 1/3 of Montenegro and 1/8 of Greece.

-Serbs would want nearly half of Bosnia and 1/3 of Montenegro

-Bosnians would want more than half Bosnia, which includes Srbrenica and Sanjak region.

-Croats may want some area in Bosnia, and small area of Serbia up to Zemun.

-Hungarians may want Vojvodina, Transylvania in Romania, and Komárno and Dunajská Streda from Slovakia.

-Bulgarians would want the rest of Macedonia etc...

Balkans should function as a group of multinational states with the vision to join the EU. Any other formula will be difficult to put in practice

highduke

pre 12 godina

The fact that he's talking about the US as some decisive key player when we no longer live in 90s or 00s plus that he's not even mentioning how much territory is to be exchanged, all while we're initiating the organ-trafficking investigation against Albanian elites is evidence that this is a all a ruse to give Albanian public false hope in the aftermath of the recent styrofoam-vandalism against negotiators' vehicles.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

“Why would Priština agree to give away anything when it is certain to have a pact with the U.S.?” Dačić wondered.

I got to hand it to Dacic, the man is right on this one.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Looks like our KiM Albanians fear partition more than anything so maybe they will save KiM and start negotiating faithfully? I doubt very much a formal partition is on the agenda but the threat of it could push negotiations further. A functional partition is reality and that's what these negotiation should seal.

roberto

pre 12 godina

--Balkans should function as a group of multinational states with the vision to join the EU. Any other formula will be difficult to put in practice
(Creative Rationality, 18 May 2011 15:12)--

I basically agree w/you CR. the never-ending partitions for ethnic cleanliness (so-called) are immoral, unattainable, and basically impossible. i tried to explain this in a recent posting (censored!!): w/ mitrovica, just as one example, you have albanians and bosnians living in the southern part of the north. i know this for a fact, since we were given the grand tour by the nice eulex official in the north and eulex never lies...

so, you'd have to cut some kind of bizarre, old e/w berlin-like border, through alleys, churches and streets, rather than at the ibar itself.

plus you have serbs living throughout kosova, not just in the N and the "enclaves." i've seen them -- and their nice little placards, in and around pristina, and anyone that lives there and actually knows the truth will back me up. so how do you partition throughout a country? then there are the issues of the churches and monasteries which serbia claims, but which are part of kosova's cultural/ religious heritage. so this partitioning really becomes quite problematic.

and in serbia itself, for various complex historical reasons (not to mention the mass murders and forced exiles perpetrated on its neighbors, you have, ironically, a certain # of minorities residing inside the country. many in more-or-less cosmopolitan belgrade, but also scattered, and certainly close to the borders. preseva would be the first to bolt, and for good reasonS. so it will be never-ending.

every nation is multi-ethnic to some extent and needs to learn to deal with it in a healthy way, or will inevitable see rebellion and independence movements.

what is necessary is to guarantee full citizenship for ALL citizens. but how can serbia do so? even if they wanted to, their own (kostunica) constitution states otherwise, and the loyal party media continue in the same anti-democratic direction.

thanks! tung. roberto frisco

Top

pre 12 godina

"then there are the issues of the churches and monasteries which serbia claims, but which are part of kosova's cultural/ religious heritage. so this partitioning really becomes quite problematic. "
(roberto, 18 May 2011 17:50)

Serbian orthodox churches are part of Kosova's cultural and religious heritage? You give me a laugh now. But interesting somehow. I wonder what the Kosovo Albanian cultural heritage might be. Some medieval mosques? Old fortresses or castles where Skenderbeg once lived? Oops, there are no such things? Must be all destroyed by Serbs, I guess. How else could it be, we all know that Albanians, oops, Illyrians, lived there for 10,000s of years, don't we? ;-)

Crna Ruka

pre 12 godina

It was all just a matter of time. The Tadic government hope from the beginning was that they could eventually convince the Serbs to completely give up Kosovo, so that he could please his Western Masters. The only thing stopping him is that he will lose the next election, and even all the rantings of the Western officials are just to make Tadic look better in the eyes of Serbs, they also know that he would lose his seat, and that is something they don't want, because they need him or another like him to accomplish their goals against Serbia. Serbs will likely be stupid enough to vote for Tadic again in the next elections, and he will give up Kosovo then if he is able to convince the Serbs that it is the only way for them to have prosperity in the future. And if it looks like he can't convince the Serbs of that, then I don't think the West will wait for another term, but will make it happen in some other way.

Nenad

pre 12 godina

At this rate, partition would seem sensible. In fact, the idea has been alive in Serbian circles for many years. Milan Milutinovic, I think Serbia's foreign minister at the time, opined to US diplomats in the mid 90s that Kosovo would most likely be partitioned 15-20 years from that point (so right around now) and that the K-Albanians would be allowed to leave Serbia.

Realistically, there doesn't seem to be anything that Belgrade can do to reclaim control over the Albanian-dominated areas and there isn't much that Pristina can do about the Serb-dominated north. So for the sake of all citizens in the region, let's just make a deal and move on.

But I suppose we have to wait things out a bit longer as the politicians continue to work for maximum gain.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

if Mr.Dacic is on the payroll of the statedepartment, then this would make sense.

but why for heavens sake should Serbia give away anything that is serbian anyway? there are no presents to be made, this is not the topic to speak out every ever so stupid idea loudly.

seems like we´ve got someone here who is silently working for the opponent.

no, there is no need to partition anything. its all serbian, and the US are slowly but surely losing grip. just yesterday the Visegrad-group has announced the formation of an own military unit, independent from NATO, what shows how much influence the US have at all at the moment.

taken that aside, the Russians are coming back, China is on the rise anyway, and the BRICS-states are going to take over the economic lead position within a few years, so there is absolutely no reason to give in to partition-phantasies that would only favour the k-albanian terrorist-regime in Pristina.

no, Dacic, better be quiet with your ideas and perhaps it´d be better for you to look for a nice and comfortable place over there in Washington D.C.

because with ideas like that, you make yourself quite unpopular.

Danijel

pre 12 godina

It is no surprise to me that Dacic is making such absurd proposals. The coalition government in Serbia is a complete joke, which is clearly a product of the West, it is not in the nature of most decent Serbs to want such a rule in their country, but they have no choice. The DS and SPS are supposed to be sworn enemies, since Dacic's mentor Milosevic, and Tadic's mentor Djindjic were so opposed to eachother, now Dacic and Tadic are in bed together. This is just the first step of the Serbian "government" getting rid of Kosovo so that they can persue their dreadful dream of joining the EU, which will finish Serbia off as a sovereign state. Mladen a few comments below makes a good point, what will the Albanians do when their western sponsors loose interest? Well, they will be left to fight for themselves as they should be, and hopefully the Serbian people will rise up to claim what is their territory. But as long as Serbia has a puppet government, this will not happen.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

roberto!

After reading your last post, i now know for sure that you have no idea of Jugoslavian history and that you just make of crap as you go along.

Your views are blinded by your hatred combined with your emotions, that you always make these stupid statements without ever supporting facts.

Well i have a fact for your roberto!

Serbians don't care to baby sit, breast feed and prop up you Bosnianks, or whatever term you muslims want to use today.

There is no doubt that Serbians, Croations and Bosniaks should be segregated, or otherwise there wouldn't have been the break up of Jugoslavia.

What gives you the right to force your culture, religion and regime on Serbians.

Besides "turska cafa", what do you Bosniaks have to offer Serbia?

Demi

pre 12 godina

Dacic is a very smart guy in difference from other serbian leaders. He notice that Kosovo will never be ruled by Serbia as long as albanians live there and want to save what wrelly can be saved. One thing he dosen't know yet is that we albanians will never accept an partition of Kosovo and such a suggest will not succed. 25% albanians in Macedonia have more right to split from Macedonia than 7 % serbs from Kosovo.

The borders are settled and it is time to move on. America and Europe will not accept more division among the countrys of the Balkans. That means Serbia will not get RS or N.Kosovo as they wish. Albanians will not get W.Macedonia or S.Montenegro as they wish.


Despite war between albanians and macedonians in 2001 the people now live together in an multiethnic Macedonia. EU dosent accept further tensions there and albanians and macedonians have to respect each other and get along. The same will happend in an multiethnic Kosovo where serbs and albaninans will get along. Serbs will not succed to secede from Kosovo or Bosnia. They have no right to do that since they are not repressed by the goverment of Kosovo or Bosnia.

Kosovo had the right to secede from Serbia since what the regime in Belgrade did to albanians during the 80's and 90's and the war in 1998-99. 1 Million albanians repressed to leave their homes and more than 10 000 murdered by serbian military forces. I tell this before you jump on to ask '''why Kosovo but not RS ?''

Paul

pre 12 godina

The issue, once again, is borders. If Serbia gives up Kosovo (and Metohija) in exchange for fragments of outposts inside Kosovo, then the next step among the Kosovo Albanians is unification with Albania. When Albania has a border with Serbia where it cannot control the other side of the border as it can in Kosovo now, then the trouble really begins.

Notice the other news item about Kosovo police harrasing a Serbian businessman in northern Kosovo. He is being investigated for organized crime and none of his offenses have anything to do with trafficking either drugs or people. What a joke!

When Serbian borders are softened by the existance of outposts in Kosovo, then this kind pretense will no longer be necessary. Nobody really want Kosovo's borders run by Albanians on either side anywhere and especially between Kosovo and Albania. Kosovo run by Albanians will never be safe from organized crime coming out of Albania. Albania is the real source of problems in the area, even more than Kosovo run by Albanians where international observers tend to hobble them a great deal.

Zirb

pre 12 godina

This man should be kicked from the coalition and put on trial for treason to make such declaration which is against the very constitution of Serbia. Plus, he's a douchebag communist. We should exchange Seselj for this guy.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

The only thing that comes to my mind when I hear these "Kosovo partition plans" from the Serb side is the "Život damo, Trst ne damo" slogan after WWII.

Just like then, the decision has been made - the negotiations for Kosovo status have ended in 2006/2007, and these options are no longer on the table.

gjilanasi

pre 12 godina

As we can see from the article and from most of Serbian posters, Serbia is still dreaming on expanding its borders (towards Kosov, towards BiH etc.).
Looks like, no lesson is learned from last wars she was involved in.
Or maybe few people have learned so well how to be rich during the war situations and now they are willing to be rich again?!!!
Common...
Think about it.
No war would expand Serbian borders.

RSA

pre 12 godina

Sometimes when a part of the body is rotting you have to cut it off to save the rest of the body. Save what you can before it's too late, before the rot creaps closer and takes the rest of the body.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

What about the God-like powerful constitution of the republic of serbija?
Speaking like that is probably treasonous in Bg. oO!


Thanks,

Dean

pre 12 godina

Are Serbian politicians so stupied/blind...
the US is on its last breath...
what will happen to the Albanians when their sponsor disappears?
(Mladen, 18 May 2011 16:33)
From my very personal observation,the collapse of an Empire is usualy associated with hunger,poverty and WAR/s.U better Pray nothing happens. USA is 2 big 2 fail,but what we r talking abou here,is something known as ''soft landing''.It will take at least 25-35 years 4 a big airplan,such as USA,to touch down safely.The count down started about 4 years ago.HOWEVER,even if ur ''PROFECY'' is wright,Ironically and unfortunatly 4 u,the first who is going 2 help is CHINA and Russia if the problem gets worst.This is how it works,one hand wash the other and both hands wash the face.
About Serbian politicians being ''stupied/blind'' as u claim.Wrong again.They have got more information then you do.They KNOW things,u don't Mladen.
About Albanians now.It is up 2 Serbs,HOWEVER,if u still think and behave the same u have 4 the last 2 centuries,WE have no choice but 2 cooperate with Aliens,against u.
From an Orthodox Albanian,of South Albania.
(Note:the reasson why I stressed my religous Identity,is just 2 ensure You Mladen,and all Serbs,that,NO feelings of Religious Hatred were involved,during the time I was typing my comment)

sj

pre 12 godina

Dacic is a chardonnay socialist; he is a democrat during the day, who visits Milosevic’s grave by night. I have no time for either part of his personality as he would sell out his own mother for a couple of Euros.

And that’s the pertinent point here. He is “testing the waters” – an old trick done by western politicians to see popular reaction. Western politicians do this more often before a budget is delivered – leak information - to gauge reaction or to physiologically soften up the populace when the budget is finally delivered and people would say that it was not a bad as they thought it would be.

What does Prisitina have to offer? A pact with the US. Gee that’s worth a lot; a pact with a country that has lost one war on its own and in the process of losing 2 others with a little help from its NATO friends. Its a country that is so steeped in debt that it will take 3 generations to bring it under control; a country this is right now negotiating to sell its last gold reserves of 400 billion plus student loans and a couple of other items.

A country that in 18 months time will have a public debt of $17.1 trillion (14.3 now; a deficit of 1.60 in 2011 plus a deficit of 1.20 in 2012) and Dacic is worried about the Albanians having a pact with the US. Now if he is worried about the group of friends the US has – the UK – broke; they only had a two week window of opportunity with this Libyan war before the economic crises deepens in that country; so far it’s two months and now end in sight. France – they are no better than the UK but no one will mention this in the free western media. The others are not even worth talking about.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

it's weird how people who have obviously never been to Kosovo repeat how there are no traces of Albanians in Kosovo - no medieval mosques, for example.

This is simply not true. Go to Kosovo and see for yourself.

sj

pre 12 godina

This is simply not true. Go to Kosovo and see for yourself.
(Danilo, 18 May 2011 22:59)
These Albanians claim they are so called decedents of Illyrians, but where are the buildings, bridges or even cave paintings etc to prove this claim????? The Turks were there for 600 years and they have left plenty of evidence of their occupation, but not the Albos.

Nenad

pre 12 godina

What does Prisitina have to offer? A pact with the US. Gee that’s worth a lot; a pact with a country that has lost one war on its own and in the process of losing 2 others with a little help from its NATO friends. Its a country that is so steeped in debt that it will take 3 generations to bring it under control; a country this is right now negotiating to sell its last gold reserves of 400 billion plus student loans and a couple of other items.

A country that in 18 months time will have a public debt of $17.1 trillion (14.3 now; a deficit of 1.60 in 2011 plus a deficit of 1.20 in 2012) and Dacic is worried about the Albanians having a pact with the US. Now if he is worried about the group of friends the US has – the UK – broke; they only had a two week window of opportunity with this Libyan war before the economic crises deepens in that country; so far it’s two months and now end in sight. France – they are no better than the UK but no one will mention this in the free western media. The others are not even worth talking about.
(sj, 19 May 2011 00:48)

OK, but tell us how Serbia is supposed to undo what has been done. Paint us a picture of how BRICS nations will go about returning all of Kosovo to Serbia. So sure of Russian/Chinese deliverance? Do us a favor and expound on your theory, rather than using this story as an opportunity to sound off on the US, UK and France (appearing just a bit like a sore loser in the process).

Fluid

pre 12 godina

"These Albanians claim they are so called decedents of Illyrians, but where are the buildings, bridges or even cave paintings etc to prove this claim????? The Turks were there for 600 years and they have left plenty of evidence of their occupation, but not the Albos.
(sj, 19 May 2011 14:00)"

Because you destroyed it all in 1912/13 when your Serbian army invaded Kosovo, destroyed all non-Serbian homes (after defeating the Albanian forces, who were exhausted fighting the Ottoman forces), and wanted to wipe out any evidence that anyone lived there.