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Wednesday, 18.05.2011.

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Montenegro has state, would like church

Ex-Montenegrin Prime Minister Milo Đukanović's statement that there can be <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=05&dd=17&nav_id=74390" class="text-link" target= "_blank">only one Orthodox church in Montenegro </a>has surprised many.

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Jovan

pre 12 godina

before this sad person leaves forever, he will have to swallow one thing. its something even Njegos knew...

All Montenegrins are Serbs, but not all Serbs are Montenegrins.

=)


there is no need for another church in Montenegro, ..US-Aid and all the other socalled NGO´s won´t succeed in dividing the Montenegrins from their motherland...

Serbia will prevail, and the once so proud montenegrin poeple will return to their proud serbian ancestry.

its all only a question of time.

iliri

pre 12 godina

''Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?
(Another Canadian Serb, 18 May 2011 14:21) ''

Could not agree more with this call. I say we burn down all the religious buldings, confiscate their properties, and instead build theatres, schools, cultural centres, hospitals, etc...yet, i have to support montenegrins on this issue, if they want to oust the serbo-russian influence from their church it is their right to do so, we in Albania practically have the same situation here, but not that grave since no one cares what the longbearded parasite has to say , the greek priests in our orthodox church are disturbing, but soon they will be kicked out, many albanian priests are denoucing the clergy, probably a witch hunt among themselves, since 1937 our church is autochephaleous reckognised by all churches in the world afterall, and we can do it easily ... the muslims are not a problem, no one cares here about what muslim clergy says, actually no one cares here what any clergy says at all, the catholics are my favourite,because i never hear about them, although, even in christmas message, they sounded pretty much patriotic, and i felt affected by a religious message for the first time ...actually most of Albanians have no idea wether some church is orthodox or catholic, or some mosque is bektashi or muslim, even the practioners, who go to church or mosque once a year, never hear in the church or mosque a political message, apart from ''help your neighbour'' ''share your food'' which sound marxist to me etc etc.... that is because our state, despite of being run by corrupt politicians, is truly a modern state separated from religion, unlike medieval state models that our neighbours still have, if religion here tries to pull the usual BS that it does in our neighbouring countries, our gov can simply ban all of them at once and the ordinary people even religious people would even support such immediate measure. Why do you think our gov is not returning all the property to religions? To keep them under pressure of course... Our left wing-right wing politics is messed up though, but that is another subject.

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

"Montenegro has State,would like Church" Get one,there is no law against that.Just leave Serbian Orthodox Churches and Monasteries alone.They were there long before Montenegro became Independent State.Those Serbian Churches and Monasteries serves Serbian people living on territory of"Independent State of Montenegro"Forceful acquisition of Serbian Orthodox Church property would be illegal under International laws.
However,those mega brains in Podgorica may think otherwise.I can not
help,but voices I'm hearing to-day echo the era 65 years ago when I stood
unarmed with voice of reason defending my identity and Church property from communists barbarians intended distraction.Communism is just about
dead everywhere else except in Montenegro.Serbs of Montenegro should rise peacefully, with your Serbian Orthodox Church in defense of your rights to
worship in the finest tradition of your Serbian ancestry.

sj

pre 12 godina

If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski.
(Agim Kelmendi, 18 May 2011 17:12)


It looks like remedial reading courses in English is a must for Albanians as they have different interpretation to sentences.

The Serbian Church is more powerful than 200 Milos. But maybe Milo should try and improve the living standards of Montenegro rather than open his mouth to put his foot in it – he must be of Albanian descent.

Hank the Tank

pre 12 godina

"If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski."
Agim Kelmendi

You need to learn how to read english better. Where did it say Serbia was telling Montenegro what to do except in your twisted head? Dukanovic is telling the churches in Montenegro what to do. I guess that is all right since Montenegro recognized Kosovo. Saudiarabia is a dictatorship of the worst kind but its ok as long as they recognize Kosovo. You are seriously messed up, just like the rest of your people. No wonder you have no white schengen.

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

Interesting statement from a mafioso who is an avowed atheist. Hasn't he stolen enough from the people of monteblack? Now he wants to steal property from the SPC. He reminds me of Al Pacino's character in Scarface.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?
(Another Canadian Serb, 18 May 2011 14:21)


If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski.

highduke

pre 12 godina

Sincere thanks to world-wide Orthodoxy for rejecting this. What kind of a 'church' needs LEFTIST ATHEISTS with COMMUNIST roots to create it? The schizmatic one in MK and also is this fake one in CG.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Hmmm, I see where this is going. An independent Montenegro as part of the EU and under NATO with an independent Montenegrin Orthodox church under the Roman Catholic Church. Poor people.

Nikola

pre 12 godina

As I said yesterday Milo is probably very nervous because he read the preliminary results of the most recent census and it most likely said that more people called themselves Serbs in Montenegro than in 2003. Why else would he try so hard to basically polarize Montenegro between pro-traditionalists and pro-artificalists as I like to call them.

In Montenegro being Serbian is almost a political ideology. Since we know every Orthodox Slav in Montenegro is Serbian, it has turned into how people like to call themselves. But I have a aunt on the coastline of Montenegro in Bar and she says everyone there knows that they are Serbian.

It is a beautiful country Montenegro and I have a feeling that both Montenegro and Macedonia will have much bigger problems with the Albanians of their region when the Albanians there push for their greater Albania that they will call on Serbia (most powerful country in the region) for assistance. Serbia should then insist on both countries being absorbed into Serbia while both having broad autonomy and in return Serbia would help fight against the Albanian intruders and while we're at it also the ones in our southernmost province.

Nema Predaje

Bitange Dushmanske

pre 12 godina

Montenegro has state, would like church


Congratulations! I have a great name for your church that fits all players involved: The New Orthodox Church of Serbian Quislings.
I also have a great money saving idea when you start building: Save money on sandpaper by using your facial cheeks.
Also,I think the best name for your new (gundja)or language is what my Texan rancher/linguist friend had suggested: Lazy Serbian.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

That's a great idea Milo.

Better yet, Milo could also build a cigarette factory with a church and have all the parishioners handroll the smokes.

Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?

Satanas

pre 12 godina

None of these Orthodox churches have any spiritual authority. They're just puppets of whichever thug happens to be in temporal charge, Milo in this case. Close them all down!

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

That's a great idea Milo.

Better yet, Milo could also build a cigarette factory with a church and have all the parishioners handroll the smokes.

Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?

highduke

pre 12 godina

Sincere thanks to world-wide Orthodoxy for rejecting this. What kind of a 'church' needs LEFTIST ATHEISTS with COMMUNIST roots to create it? The schizmatic one in MK and also is this fake one in CG.

Bitange Dushmanske

pre 12 godina

Montenegro has state, would like church


Congratulations! I have a great name for your church that fits all players involved: The New Orthodox Church of Serbian Quislings.
I also have a great money saving idea when you start building: Save money on sandpaper by using your facial cheeks.
Also,I think the best name for your new (gundja)or language is what my Texan rancher/linguist friend had suggested: Lazy Serbian.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Hmmm, I see where this is going. An independent Montenegro as part of the EU and under NATO with an independent Montenegrin Orthodox church under the Roman Catholic Church. Poor people.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?
(Another Canadian Serb, 18 May 2011 14:21)


If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski.

Hank the Tank

pre 12 godina

"If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski."
Agim Kelmendi

You need to learn how to read english better. Where did it say Serbia was telling Montenegro what to do except in your twisted head? Dukanovic is telling the churches in Montenegro what to do. I guess that is all right since Montenegro recognized Kosovo. Saudiarabia is a dictatorship of the worst kind but its ok as long as they recognize Kosovo. You are seriously messed up, just like the rest of your people. No wonder you have no white schengen.

Satanas

pre 12 godina

None of these Orthodox churches have any spiritual authority. They're just puppets of whichever thug happens to be in temporal charge, Milo in this case. Close them all down!

Nikola

pre 12 godina

As I said yesterday Milo is probably very nervous because he read the preliminary results of the most recent census and it most likely said that more people called themselves Serbs in Montenegro than in 2003. Why else would he try so hard to basically polarize Montenegro between pro-traditionalists and pro-artificalists as I like to call them.

In Montenegro being Serbian is almost a political ideology. Since we know every Orthodox Slav in Montenegro is Serbian, it has turned into how people like to call themselves. But I have a aunt on the coastline of Montenegro in Bar and she says everyone there knows that they are Serbian.

It is a beautiful country Montenegro and I have a feeling that both Montenegro and Macedonia will have much bigger problems with the Albanians of their region when the Albanians there push for their greater Albania that they will call on Serbia (most powerful country in the region) for assistance. Serbia should then insist on both countries being absorbed into Serbia while both having broad autonomy and in return Serbia would help fight against the Albanian intruders and while we're at it also the ones in our southernmost province.

Nema Predaje

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

Interesting statement from a mafioso who is an avowed atheist. Hasn't he stolen enough from the people of monteblack? Now he wants to steal property from the SPC. He reminds me of Al Pacino's character in Scarface.

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

"Montenegro has State,would like Church" Get one,there is no law against that.Just leave Serbian Orthodox Churches and Monasteries alone.They were there long before Montenegro became Independent State.Those Serbian Churches and Monasteries serves Serbian people living on territory of"Independent State of Montenegro"Forceful acquisition of Serbian Orthodox Church property would be illegal under International laws.
However,those mega brains in Podgorica may think otherwise.I can not
help,but voices I'm hearing to-day echo the era 65 years ago when I stood
unarmed with voice of reason defending my identity and Church property from communists barbarians intended distraction.Communism is just about
dead everywhere else except in Montenegro.Serbs of Montenegro should rise peacefully, with your Serbian Orthodox Church in defense of your rights to
worship in the finest tradition of your Serbian ancestry.

sj

pre 12 godina

If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski.
(Agim Kelmendi, 18 May 2011 17:12)


It looks like remedial reading courses in English is a must for Albanians as they have different interpretation to sentences.

The Serbian Church is more powerful than 200 Milos. But maybe Milo should try and improve the living standards of Montenegro rather than open his mouth to put his foot in it – he must be of Albanian descent.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

before this sad person leaves forever, he will have to swallow one thing. its something even Njegos knew...

All Montenegrins are Serbs, but not all Serbs are Montenegrins.

=)


there is no need for another church in Montenegro, ..US-Aid and all the other socalled NGO´s won´t succeed in dividing the Montenegrins from their motherland...

Serbia will prevail, and the once so proud montenegrin poeple will return to their proud serbian ancestry.

its all only a question of time.

iliri

pre 12 godina

''Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?
(Another Canadian Serb, 18 May 2011 14:21) ''

Could not agree more with this call. I say we burn down all the religious buldings, confiscate their properties, and instead build theatres, schools, cultural centres, hospitals, etc...yet, i have to support montenegrins on this issue, if they want to oust the serbo-russian influence from their church it is their right to do so, we in Albania practically have the same situation here, but not that grave since no one cares what the longbearded parasite has to say , the greek priests in our orthodox church are disturbing, but soon they will be kicked out, many albanian priests are denoucing the clergy, probably a witch hunt among themselves, since 1937 our church is autochephaleous reckognised by all churches in the world afterall, and we can do it easily ... the muslims are not a problem, no one cares here about what muslim clergy says, actually no one cares here what any clergy says at all, the catholics are my favourite,because i never hear about them, although, even in christmas message, they sounded pretty much patriotic, and i felt affected by a religious message for the first time ...actually most of Albanians have no idea wether some church is orthodox or catholic, or some mosque is bektashi or muslim, even the practioners, who go to church or mosque once a year, never hear in the church or mosque a political message, apart from ''help your neighbour'' ''share your food'' which sound marxist to me etc etc.... that is because our state, despite of being run by corrupt politicians, is truly a modern state separated from religion, unlike medieval state models that our neighbours still have, if religion here tries to pull the usual BS that it does in our neighbouring countries, our gov can simply ban all of them at once and the ordinary people even religious people would even support such immediate measure. Why do you think our gov is not returning all the property to religions? To keep them under pressure of course... Our left wing-right wing politics is messed up though, but that is another subject.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?
(Another Canadian Serb, 18 May 2011 14:21)


If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski.

Satanas

pre 12 godina

None of these Orthodox churches have any spiritual authority. They're just puppets of whichever thug happens to be in temporal charge, Milo in this case. Close them all down!

Nikola

pre 12 godina

As I said yesterday Milo is probably very nervous because he read the preliminary results of the most recent census and it most likely said that more people called themselves Serbs in Montenegro than in 2003. Why else would he try so hard to basically polarize Montenegro between pro-traditionalists and pro-artificalists as I like to call them.

In Montenegro being Serbian is almost a political ideology. Since we know every Orthodox Slav in Montenegro is Serbian, it has turned into how people like to call themselves. But I have a aunt on the coastline of Montenegro in Bar and she says everyone there knows that they are Serbian.

It is a beautiful country Montenegro and I have a feeling that both Montenegro and Macedonia will have much bigger problems with the Albanians of their region when the Albanians there push for their greater Albania that they will call on Serbia (most powerful country in the region) for assistance. Serbia should then insist on both countries being absorbed into Serbia while both having broad autonomy and in return Serbia would help fight against the Albanian intruders and while we're at it also the ones in our southernmost province.

Nema Predaje

highduke

pre 12 godina

Sincere thanks to world-wide Orthodoxy for rejecting this. What kind of a 'church' needs LEFTIST ATHEISTS with COMMUNIST roots to create it? The schizmatic one in MK and also is this fake one in CG.

Bitange Dushmanske

pre 12 godina

Montenegro has state, would like church


Congratulations! I have a great name for your church that fits all players involved: The New Orthodox Church of Serbian Quislings.
I also have a great money saving idea when you start building: Save money on sandpaper by using your facial cheeks.
Also,I think the best name for your new (gundja)or language is what my Texan rancher/linguist friend had suggested: Lazy Serbian.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Hmmm, I see where this is going. An independent Montenegro as part of the EU and under NATO with an independent Montenegrin Orthodox church under the Roman Catholic Church. Poor people.

Hank the Tank

pre 12 godina

"If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski."
Agim Kelmendi

You need to learn how to read english better. Where did it say Serbia was telling Montenegro what to do except in your twisted head? Dukanovic is telling the churches in Montenegro what to do. I guess that is all right since Montenegro recognized Kosovo. Saudiarabia is a dictatorship of the worst kind but its ok as long as they recognize Kosovo. You are seriously messed up, just like the rest of your people. No wonder you have no white schengen.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

That's a great idea Milo.

Better yet, Milo could also build a cigarette factory with a church and have all the parishioners handroll the smokes.

Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

Interesting statement from a mafioso who is an avowed atheist. Hasn't he stolen enough from the people of monteblack? Now he wants to steal property from the SPC. He reminds me of Al Pacino's character in Scarface.

sj

pre 12 godina

If Serbian church is trying to tell another country what to do, than I agree with Milo 100%. Thumbs up to Milo and all Crno Gorski.
(Agim Kelmendi, 18 May 2011 17:12)


It looks like remedial reading courses in English is a must for Albanians as they have different interpretation to sentences.

The Serbian Church is more powerful than 200 Milos. But maybe Milo should try and improve the living standards of Montenegro rather than open his mouth to put his foot in it – he must be of Albanian descent.

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

"Montenegro has State,would like Church" Get one,there is no law against that.Just leave Serbian Orthodox Churches and Monasteries alone.They were there long before Montenegro became Independent State.Those Serbian Churches and Monasteries serves Serbian people living on territory of"Independent State of Montenegro"Forceful acquisition of Serbian Orthodox Church property would be illegal under International laws.
However,those mega brains in Podgorica may think otherwise.I can not
help,but voices I'm hearing to-day echo the era 65 years ago when I stood
unarmed with voice of reason defending my identity and Church property from communists barbarians intended distraction.Communism is just about
dead everywhere else except in Montenegro.Serbs of Montenegro should rise peacefully, with your Serbian Orthodox Church in defense of your rights to
worship in the finest tradition of your Serbian ancestry.

iliri

pre 12 godina

''Where are the Albanian posters to complain about how the state and church should never mingle?
(Another Canadian Serb, 18 May 2011 14:21) ''

Could not agree more with this call. I say we burn down all the religious buldings, confiscate their properties, and instead build theatres, schools, cultural centres, hospitals, etc...yet, i have to support montenegrins on this issue, if they want to oust the serbo-russian influence from their church it is their right to do so, we in Albania practically have the same situation here, but not that grave since no one cares what the longbearded parasite has to say , the greek priests in our orthodox church are disturbing, but soon they will be kicked out, many albanian priests are denoucing the clergy, probably a witch hunt among themselves, since 1937 our church is autochephaleous reckognised by all churches in the world afterall, and we can do it easily ... the muslims are not a problem, no one cares here about what muslim clergy says, actually no one cares here what any clergy says at all, the catholics are my favourite,because i never hear about them, although, even in christmas message, they sounded pretty much patriotic, and i felt affected by a religious message for the first time ...actually most of Albanians have no idea wether some church is orthodox or catholic, or some mosque is bektashi or muslim, even the practioners, who go to church or mosque once a year, never hear in the church or mosque a political message, apart from ''help your neighbour'' ''share your food'' which sound marxist to me etc etc.... that is because our state, despite of being run by corrupt politicians, is truly a modern state separated from religion, unlike medieval state models that our neighbours still have, if religion here tries to pull the usual BS that it does in our neighbouring countries, our gov can simply ban all of them at once and the ordinary people even religious people would even support such immediate measure. Why do you think our gov is not returning all the property to religions? To keep them under pressure of course... Our left wing-right wing politics is messed up though, but that is another subject.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

before this sad person leaves forever, he will have to swallow one thing. its something even Njegos knew...

All Montenegrins are Serbs, but not all Serbs are Montenegrins.

=)


there is no need for another church in Montenegro, ..US-Aid and all the other socalled NGO´s won´t succeed in dividing the Montenegrins from their motherland...

Serbia will prevail, and the once so proud montenegrin poeple will return to their proud serbian ancestry.

its all only a question of time.