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Tuesday, 17.05.2011.

09:25

Del Ponte "ready to take over" Kosovo probe

Carla Del Ponte has told a Belgrade-based daily that she is ready to take over an independent investigation into the Kosovo organ trafficking case.

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Je¿ SS-owski

pre 12 godina

I'm glad I never let my bitterness let me indulge in such hatred as certain nationalists and liberals do.
(bganon, 18 May 2011 00:26)

He is a self-appointed liberal. In the reality: one of the two ultimate bigots of the B92. BTW: neither Standartenführer of New York nor Obersturmbahnführer of "Frisco" is Albanian. Albanians can wash their hands at least in this case.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

Well, she is the one that started these rumors to begin with.

Very crafty - it has "job security closer to home" written all over it.

Guess Argentina is to far from home.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

roberto said, "..del ponte is a real... rhymes w/ witch and kitch. i'll settle on witch, the white witch. she is such a drama queen and so basicaaly incompetent, it boggles the (normal) mind."

Look who is calling someone else a drama queen and incompetent ..... too funny.

bganon

pre 12 godina

Interesting the way that our western 'liberal friends' are now referring to women they disagree with as 'witches'.

Should they be burned at the stake as well?

And we supposed Serbian moderates are accused of abandoning 'the(ir) cause'. It looks a little to me that this demonising of women makes liberals join with extreme nationalist behaviour. What next, will Dick Marty be 'accused' of being gay because of his report? Perhaps its the 'liberals' that need to return to moderation.

I'm glad I never let my bitterness let me indulge in such hatred as certain nationalists and liberals do.

Staff

pre 12 godina

This is pefect ! del Ponte is not afraid of anyone, she has put many persons on every side in prison. I think she will have this post. And by the way, neither Serbia or its province Kosovo decides one bit of this. UNSC does. Period.

Je¿ artyleryjski

pre 12 godina

OK, that was fun.
(Je¿ atamañski, 17 May 2011 22:44)

It supposed to be, wouldn't B92 mess up my posts and make a borsht of them. But at least some bits went through that... canon drainpipe. Sigh.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are many conspiracy out there in the world:

Some people deny that the USA landed on the moon in 1969 and say it all has been a fake, staged somewhere in the desert.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

some people will now believe, I am the moderator of B92 because your joke about the Moon came across mine about the Moon, independently. So I have to be the God of B92 than.

---

Some people deny that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda was responsible for 9/11 and say the CIA did it.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

I did not see a serious investigation and a court decision which concluded, Bin Laden was responsible. Now that is impossible. But wait, maybe that is behind of what happened (or happened?) May 3. BTW: CIA, Mossad, Elvis Presley and Illuminati had zero incentive to do the 9/11. But interest of some greedy S.O.B.-s could well meet the interest of some S.O.B. politicians. You do not need to have more than 10 people know the details... and the rest few dozen could be easily eliminated in the building 7, as it precisely happened.

Than, again - there is no iron-clad proof of that, too. Hence all we can say about 9/11: "no idea, either version is fishy somewhere".

---

Some people deny that Srebrenica slaughtery has happened and say there were only some 100 soldiers killed.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

It was most likely well in thousands. Unfortunately either way there is a huge political interest to keep things only fully uncovered. Because foreign powers did bear some guilt and there was a lot under-the-table dealing. IMO this is the main reason Mladic is not caught. Unlike Osama he is a nice S.O.B. who prefers to keep silent - and that's the best solution for American politics. The last what they want is Mladic and Osama singing like canaries. They took care (most likely) about Osama and Mladic knows, how to take care about himself.

---

Some people deny that organ harvesting in Kosovo took place and say there's an 'anti-independence network' working against Kosovo.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

See Srebrenica. Unfortunately American politics was close enough to both. I am very skeptic we will ever know the full truth for all these cases, except the Moon landing.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Is she looking for a job, because she got fired?If so go and look in Serbia or Russia.
As for Kosovo you have lost your credibility, since you left Milosevich to die as innocent man, when all people in Balkan were excpecting the opposite.
Secondly,you are not impartial in this case.You are sure that organ trade happened and you will distort all the facts or make up stories, in order to get your way.
I trust more an investigator from China,Russia or Venezuela than you Carla del Ponte.

Je¿ atamañski

pre 12 godina

"Now I am going to shoot Ban Ki Moon... You guys will see - I am not kidding! The position is right, he is in best sight for me."

Of course - Moon had zero chances to escape the Russian Rubinar. At it wasn't even a Canon since it is in the service, "just" a Panasonic GH-1.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6352/moonxz.jpg

Next time he better be careful about Kosovo. OK, that was fun.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Hey Carla I wouldn't go to Kosovo if I was you. Albanians know you work for Serbs now. You aren't welcome there.
(ivan, 17 May 2011 17:22)

Sooo? I am going to mount the magic drainpipe on my canon and take with me my Russian Rubinar rocket launcher - and going to shoot in Kosovo. And there is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Yes, I do have magic drainpipe, canon and a Russian "Rubinar" rocket launcher. The magic drainpipe is more serious weapon than the Rubinar, don't mess with me.

Sorry, no picture of the drainpipe and the canon - they are in the CLA service now to make sure, they don't miss if I shoot. But the Rubinar rocket launcher is here:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2470/rubin.jpg

If I activate that weapon your "snake" won't even know what did hit him... literally. It's over 5 kg to hold and I can do it without a tripod. So you better to take cover.

dd

pre 12 godina

O myyyyyyyyyy. What load of deception and propaganda - frisca tanga from Roberto - same person probably.
Not even Roberto in tunga Hate Exstasy can put those numbers and BS - poor Slovenian and Croats - attacked by JNA - they just wanted to separate and grab land - and realocate JNA and all others- Jasenovac style.
VEry, very Creative - but fails big time on Rationality.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

carla is an ambassador to Argentina....how does she expect to maintain two different jobs in two different continents? Is she hoping to skype it day in and day out?

To this day the world awaits for evidence from dick and carla....don't worry sooner or later both these disgusting individuals will be slapped with defamation. They both remind me of demagogue sen J.Mcarthy, simply disgusting!!


Thanks,

Analyst

pre 12 godina

There are many conspiracy out there in the world:

Some people deny that the USA landed on the moon in 1969 and say it all has been a fake, staged somewhere in the desert.
Some people deny that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda was responsible for 9/11 and say the CIA did it.
Some people deny that Srebrenica slaughtery has happened and say there were only some 100 soldiers killed.
Some people deny that organ harvesting in Kosovo took place and say there's an 'anti-independence network' working against Kosovo.


Bizarre... But in the end, the majority believes the truth

roberto

pre 12 godina

--While I regret every single killing of innocent civilians the above leave many of us in the West speechless on how we left Serbian forces commit such awful crimes one after the other. We in the West were only spectators. --

Yes, and I was one of those spectators, voyeurs, if you will. passive voyeur. which i will regret to my dying day. but it doesn't mean we have to remain silent now.

what we are watching, this latest "show" is called: how can we relativize every horrible thing that happened in the past, so as to obscure and therefore "cleanse" ourselves of any normal responsibility. it is not a new approach. back in the day, they spoke about "bad things on all sides." they compared milosevic to tudjman and izetbegovic. now tudman was a nasty piece, and a sometime ally w slobo. but izetbegovic was something entirely different. his greatest sin was that he was wholly not up to the task of defending his country from the aggressor(s). but who would be?

now we have major relativing stage #2 -- kosova was full of criminals, led by criminals, as bad as we were. That is a lie, a great big lie. no one came near to what the serbian-led genocide plan carried out. but it sounds good to the nationalist home stage. and to ignorant internationals.

del ponte is a real... rhymes w/ witch and kitch. i'll settle on witch, the white witch. she is such a drama queen and so basicaaly incompetent, it boggles the (normal) mind. but since she appears to be an ally for the nationalists now, they suddenly eat her up. marty SMEAR report: del ponte/ marty/ moscow/ belgrade. push it and push it as you will, it will fall into the garbage, but a lot of damage is being done in the meantime.

gotta run! cheers!

tung. roberto frisco

Analyst

pre 12 godina

The first step for a serious and unbiased UN investigation in these crime allegations must be to suspend all the suspects from political power (including Thaci) and send them to pre-trial custody, just like the US judges did with the IMF president accused of sexual abuse.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Yes, and I was one of those spectators, voyeurs, if you will. passive voyeur. which i will regret to my dying day. but it doesn't mean we have to remain silent now.
tung. roberto frisco
(roberto, 17 May 2011 18:00)
--
Just wondering, are you still spectating the genocide in Palestine? That has been going on for decades and continues to this day, which is in your own back yard. Perhaps you should focus your effort towards stopping that crime instead or don't you care about genocide committed by your own people? Check -> http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/wow/Palestinian_Loss_of_Land_1946_by_nevereverbefore.png

Zoran

pre 12 godina

1000s raped women.
(Creative Rationality, 17 May 2011 13:58)
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Funny how someone who claims to be an international historian can only repeat propaganda that has long been disproved. We can see the usual Albanian with a highly developed imagination who likes to create their own history, regardless of facts.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Creative Rationality said, "...even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s."

Who are you to speak for anyone? Your generalizations, using collective guilt, reminds me of several others on this site. Maybe there are identical twins here or a limited gene pool.

Your creative rationality is creative all right, poorly created and lousy fiction.

Nikola

pre 12 godina

(rolandi, 17 May 2011 10:28)

You think that albanians weren't also tortured by some members of UCK? Hasim Taci and others were probably making money from drugs, organs and human trafficking. Mafia dont care about nationality.

ben

pre 12 godina

All B;gd dailies have been at Del Ponte and she has said the same thing all the time: she wants the job.

Everybody knows this.

Where is the news???

Why the ask her same question again and again??? why she answers to same questions with same answers again and again???? nothing better to do??

Rick

pre 12 godina

Why does "team Albania" fear DelPonte's offer to take over the "organ harvesting" investigation??? It actually makes perfect sense. Carla, along with Marty both are Swiss, who are deemed to be status neutral; Carla DOES know the players and situation, on both the Serb and Albanian sides....and she knows the "political intracacies and processes" of the international judicial system. Or Albanians.....do you just want to keep on stalling the process because you know that many of your own are guilty of these hideous crimes against humanity??? Just a thought.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

The numbers dont lie, regardless of your nationality!
(uk, 17 May 2011 11:48)

Uk,

From an Western perspective, Serbia is the main (nr.1) culprit of ALL wars in the region. Lets analyze:

1. War in Slovenia (with Serbian initiative ex-Yugoslav forces attacked Slovenian for declaring the wish of the nation to be free and independent.

2. War in Croatia, similar to that of Slovenia was initiated because Croats declared their wish to be free and independent. You know how many were killed in Vukovar, Siege of Dubrovnik, Slavonia, last but the most important how many were killed in Knin area when RSK was declared once was ethnically cleansed through torture, killing and forceful expulsion. Killed approx 18,000 Croats and 2,000 Serbs.

3. War in Bosnia was the worst of all. Genocide occurred almost in the middle of Europe. Approx 110,000 killed, only a fraction of it approx 7-8,000 Serbs, and 2,000-3000 Croats. 100,000 Bosnian killed, 10,000s women raped by Serbian military. No further comment needed.

4. War in Kosovo also extremely brutal with incentives to increase killings. Killed approx 15,000 Albanians 1500-2000 Serbs.

While I regret every single killing of innocent civilians the above leave many of us in the West speechless on how we left Serbian forces commit such awful crimes one after the other. We in the West were only spectators.

AWFUL!

Now instead of looking to the West and apologizing for the crimes committing Serbs challenge the world on fiction stories, even though they themselves didn't apologize for 15,000 deaths of civilians and 1000s raped women.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Since you are jobless, and Creative in fiction stories why not try to write Del PotterY X7. J. K. Rowling would be jealous of you.

Rest assure that you are doing Serbs more damage than favour even though the latter are the main sponsors.

Serbs instead of focusing on EU agenda and reconciliation in the region, they tend to accuse others, even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s.

uk

pre 12 godina

@Serbs instead of focusing on EU agenda and reconciliation in the region, they tend to accuse others, even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s.
(Creative Rationality, 17 May 2011 11:10)

The wonderful irony of your statement that serbs only ever accuse others and then in the very next breath you accuse them of being number one culprit in ALL crimes in region. All crimes..really? I am curious as to how you came to this conclusion? Would you therefore advocate that all countries in the region also give up on chasing justice against all who committed crimes against their people? Serbia is guilty of some crimes just as Croatia and many others in the region are too. nearly 70% of all those sent to the Hague are Serbs and they represent nearly 98% of the total number of Serbs who have been indicted. Despite this huge compliance rate compared to others in the region, still people attack Serbia when she tries to get justice for her dead and the institutions accuse her of not meeting her requirements with rgard to membership of european institutions. Can anyone see a slight imbalance here I wonder? The numbers dont lie, regardless of your nationality!

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

She, Ms Delponte, will be the last person who will be given the investigation in this (false) accusation of organ trafficking.

Reason: she has soo much info and stories that she can not make the difference anymore in reality and fiction.

Provide evidence and rest assure that if this has happened the persons involved will be facing trial.

If there is no witness protection system in Kosova than I quite sure that Belgrade has.

Tung

rolandi

pre 12 godina

too all serbs please buy her book about kosovo she is damn broke the only people she can fool is those who belive on her fake story she is no thing but worthless on her own shues get real job stop lying to people se you can make some serbian dinnars of of them

mp

pre 12 godina

I guess we will now have the pleasure to read the reactions of 'Kosova' people who know everything that happened and happens in their country.

Anyway, I think Carla Del Ponte is a good choice to lead the investigation. If the investigation leads to nothing, then it will lead to nothing.. but if it leads to something, she will not be scared to make the people involved fall down their fictional throne.

NYS

pre 12 godina

"because I know the people involved"

Involved in what? I want names, places, victims, perpetrators.

Serbs, give her a job, she did help you out so help her out.

uk

pre 12 godina

@Serbs instead of focusing on EU agenda and reconciliation in the region, they tend to accuse others, even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s.
(Creative Rationality, 17 May 2011 11:10)

The wonderful irony of your statement that serbs only ever accuse others and then in the very next breath you accuse them of being number one culprit in ALL crimes in region. All crimes..really? I am curious as to how you came to this conclusion? Would you therefore advocate that all countries in the region also give up on chasing justice against all who committed crimes against their people? Serbia is guilty of some crimes just as Croatia and many others in the region are too. nearly 70% of all those sent to the Hague are Serbs and they represent nearly 98% of the total number of Serbs who have been indicted. Despite this huge compliance rate compared to others in the region, still people attack Serbia when she tries to get justice for her dead and the institutions accuse her of not meeting her requirements with rgard to membership of european institutions. Can anyone see a slight imbalance here I wonder? The numbers dont lie, regardless of your nationality!

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Since you are jobless, and Creative in fiction stories why not try to write Del PotterY X7. J. K. Rowling would be jealous of you.

Rest assure that you are doing Serbs more damage than favour even though the latter are the main sponsors.

Serbs instead of focusing on EU agenda and reconciliation in the region, they tend to accuse others, even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

The numbers dont lie, regardless of your nationality!
(uk, 17 May 2011 11:48)

Uk,

From an Western perspective, Serbia is the main (nr.1) culprit of ALL wars in the region. Lets analyze:

1. War in Slovenia (with Serbian initiative ex-Yugoslav forces attacked Slovenian for declaring the wish of the nation to be free and independent.

2. War in Croatia, similar to that of Slovenia was initiated because Croats declared their wish to be free and independent. You know how many were killed in Vukovar, Siege of Dubrovnik, Slavonia, last but the most important how many were killed in Knin area when RSK was declared once was ethnically cleansed through torture, killing and forceful expulsion. Killed approx 18,000 Croats and 2,000 Serbs.

3. War in Bosnia was the worst of all. Genocide occurred almost in the middle of Europe. Approx 110,000 killed, only a fraction of it approx 7-8,000 Serbs, and 2,000-3000 Croats. 100,000 Bosnian killed, 10,000s women raped by Serbian military. No further comment needed.

4. War in Kosovo also extremely brutal with incentives to increase killings. Killed approx 15,000 Albanians 1500-2000 Serbs.

While I regret every single killing of innocent civilians the above leave many of us in the West speechless on how we left Serbian forces commit such awful crimes one after the other. We in the West were only spectators.

AWFUL!

Now instead of looking to the West and apologizing for the crimes committing Serbs challenge the world on fiction stories, even though they themselves didn't apologize for 15,000 deaths of civilians and 1000s raped women.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Creative Rationality said, "...even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s."

Who are you to speak for anyone? Your generalizations, using collective guilt, reminds me of several others on this site. Maybe there are identical twins here or a limited gene pool.

Your creative rationality is creative all right, poorly created and lousy fiction.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

roberto said, "..del ponte is a real... rhymes w/ witch and kitch. i'll settle on witch, the white witch. she is such a drama queen and so basicaaly incompetent, it boggles the (normal) mind."

Look who is calling someone else a drama queen and incompetent ..... too funny.

mp

pre 12 godina

I guess we will now have the pleasure to read the reactions of 'Kosova' people who know everything that happened and happens in their country.

Anyway, I think Carla Del Ponte is a good choice to lead the investigation. If the investigation leads to nothing, then it will lead to nothing.. but if it leads to something, she will not be scared to make the people involved fall down their fictional throne.

Rick

pre 12 godina

Why does "team Albania" fear DelPonte's offer to take over the "organ harvesting" investigation??? It actually makes perfect sense. Carla, along with Marty both are Swiss, who are deemed to be status neutral; Carla DOES know the players and situation, on both the Serb and Albanian sides....and she knows the "political intracacies and processes" of the international judicial system. Or Albanians.....do you just want to keep on stalling the process because you know that many of your own are guilty of these hideous crimes against humanity??? Just a thought.

Nikola

pre 12 godina

(rolandi, 17 May 2011 10:28)

You think that albanians weren't also tortured by some members of UCK? Hasim Taci and others were probably making money from drugs, organs and human trafficking. Mafia dont care about nationality.

NYS

pre 12 godina

"because I know the people involved"

Involved in what? I want names, places, victims, perpetrators.

Serbs, give her a job, she did help you out so help her out.

dd

pre 12 godina

O myyyyyyyyyy. What load of deception and propaganda - frisca tanga from Roberto - same person probably.
Not even Roberto in tunga Hate Exstasy can put those numbers and BS - poor Slovenian and Croats - attacked by JNA - they just wanted to separate and grab land - and realocate JNA and all others- Jasenovac style.
VEry, very Creative - but fails big time on Rationality.

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

She, Ms Delponte, will be the last person who will be given the investigation in this (false) accusation of organ trafficking.

Reason: she has soo much info and stories that she can not make the difference anymore in reality and fiction.

Provide evidence and rest assure that if this has happened the persons involved will be facing trial.

If there is no witness protection system in Kosova than I quite sure that Belgrade has.

Tung

rolandi

pre 12 godina

too all serbs please buy her book about kosovo she is damn broke the only people she can fool is those who belive on her fake story she is no thing but worthless on her own shues get real job stop lying to people se you can make some serbian dinnars of of them

ben

pre 12 godina

All B;gd dailies have been at Del Ponte and she has said the same thing all the time: she wants the job.

Everybody knows this.

Where is the news???

Why the ask her same question again and again??? why she answers to same questions with same answers again and again???? nothing better to do??

Zoran

pre 12 godina

1000s raped women.
(Creative Rationality, 17 May 2011 13:58)
--
Funny how someone who claims to be an international historian can only repeat propaganda that has long been disproved. We can see the usual Albanian with a highly developed imagination who likes to create their own history, regardless of facts.

roberto

pre 12 godina

--While I regret every single killing of innocent civilians the above leave many of us in the West speechless on how we left Serbian forces commit such awful crimes one after the other. We in the West were only spectators. --

Yes, and I was one of those spectators, voyeurs, if you will. passive voyeur. which i will regret to my dying day. but it doesn't mean we have to remain silent now.

what we are watching, this latest "show" is called: how can we relativize every horrible thing that happened in the past, so as to obscure and therefore "cleanse" ourselves of any normal responsibility. it is not a new approach. back in the day, they spoke about "bad things on all sides." they compared milosevic to tudjman and izetbegovic. now tudman was a nasty piece, and a sometime ally w slobo. but izetbegovic was something entirely different. his greatest sin was that he was wholly not up to the task of defending his country from the aggressor(s). but who would be?

now we have major relativing stage #2 -- kosova was full of criminals, led by criminals, as bad as we were. That is a lie, a great big lie. no one came near to what the serbian-led genocide plan carried out. but it sounds good to the nationalist home stage. and to ignorant internationals.

del ponte is a real... rhymes w/ witch and kitch. i'll settle on witch, the white witch. she is such a drama queen and so basicaaly incompetent, it boggles the (normal) mind. but since she appears to be an ally for the nationalists now, they suddenly eat her up. marty SMEAR report: del ponte/ marty/ moscow/ belgrade. push it and push it as you will, it will fall into the garbage, but a lot of damage is being done in the meantime.

gotta run! cheers!

tung. roberto frisco

Staff

pre 12 godina

This is pefect ! del Ponte is not afraid of anyone, she has put many persons on every side in prison. I think she will have this post. And by the way, neither Serbia or its province Kosovo decides one bit of this. UNSC does. Period.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Yes, and I was one of those spectators, voyeurs, if you will. passive voyeur. which i will regret to my dying day. but it doesn't mean we have to remain silent now.
tung. roberto frisco
(roberto, 17 May 2011 18:00)
--
Just wondering, are you still spectating the genocide in Palestine? That has been going on for decades and continues to this day, which is in your own back yard. Perhaps you should focus your effort towards stopping that crime instead or don't you care about genocide committed by your own people? Check -> http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/wow/Palestinian_Loss_of_Land_1946_by_nevereverbefore.png

Analyst

pre 12 godina

The first step for a serious and unbiased UN investigation in these crime allegations must be to suspend all the suspects from political power (including Thaci) and send them to pre-trial custody, just like the US judges did with the IMF president accused of sexual abuse.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

carla is an ambassador to Argentina....how does she expect to maintain two different jobs in two different continents? Is she hoping to skype it day in and day out?

To this day the world awaits for evidence from dick and carla....don't worry sooner or later both these disgusting individuals will be slapped with defamation. They both remind me of demagogue sen J.Mcarthy, simply disgusting!!


Thanks,

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Hey Carla I wouldn't go to Kosovo if I was you. Albanians know you work for Serbs now. You aren't welcome there.
(ivan, 17 May 2011 17:22)

Sooo? I am going to mount the magic drainpipe on my canon and take with me my Russian Rubinar rocket launcher - and going to shoot in Kosovo. And there is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Yes, I do have magic drainpipe, canon and a Russian "Rubinar" rocket launcher. The magic drainpipe is more serious weapon than the Rubinar, don't mess with me.

Sorry, no picture of the drainpipe and the canon - they are in the CLA service now to make sure, they don't miss if I shoot. But the Rubinar rocket launcher is here:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2470/rubin.jpg

If I activate that weapon your "snake" won't even know what did hit him... literally. It's over 5 kg to hold and I can do it without a tripod. So you better to take cover.

bganon

pre 12 godina

Interesting the way that our western 'liberal friends' are now referring to women they disagree with as 'witches'.

Should they be burned at the stake as well?

And we supposed Serbian moderates are accused of abandoning 'the(ir) cause'. It looks a little to me that this demonising of women makes liberals join with extreme nationalist behaviour. What next, will Dick Marty be 'accused' of being gay because of his report? Perhaps its the 'liberals' that need to return to moderation.

I'm glad I never let my bitterness let me indulge in such hatred as certain nationalists and liberals do.

Je¿ SS-owski

pre 12 godina

I'm glad I never let my bitterness let me indulge in such hatred as certain nationalists and liberals do.
(bganon, 18 May 2011 00:26)

He is a self-appointed liberal. In the reality: one of the two ultimate bigots of the B92. BTW: neither Standartenführer of New York nor Obersturmbahnführer of "Frisco" is Albanian. Albanians can wash their hands at least in this case.

Je¿ atamañski

pre 12 godina

"Now I am going to shoot Ban Ki Moon... You guys will see - I am not kidding! The position is right, he is in best sight for me."

Of course - Moon had zero chances to escape the Russian Rubinar. At it wasn't even a Canon since it is in the service, "just" a Panasonic GH-1.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6352/moonxz.jpg

Next time he better be careful about Kosovo. OK, that was fun.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Is she looking for a job, because she got fired?If so go and look in Serbia or Russia.
As for Kosovo you have lost your credibility, since you left Milosevich to die as innocent man, when all people in Balkan were excpecting the opposite.
Secondly,you are not impartial in this case.You are sure that organ trade happened and you will distort all the facts or make up stories, in order to get your way.
I trust more an investigator from China,Russia or Venezuela than you Carla del Ponte.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are many conspiracy out there in the world:

Some people deny that the USA landed on the moon in 1969 and say it all has been a fake, staged somewhere in the desert.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

some people will now believe, I am the moderator of B92 because your joke about the Moon came across mine about the Moon, independently. So I have to be the God of B92 than.

---

Some people deny that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda was responsible for 9/11 and say the CIA did it.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

I did not see a serious investigation and a court decision which concluded, Bin Laden was responsible. Now that is impossible. But wait, maybe that is behind of what happened (or happened?) May 3. BTW: CIA, Mossad, Elvis Presley and Illuminati had zero incentive to do the 9/11. But interest of some greedy S.O.B.-s could well meet the interest of some S.O.B. politicians. You do not need to have more than 10 people know the details... and the rest few dozen could be easily eliminated in the building 7, as it precisely happened.

Than, again - there is no iron-clad proof of that, too. Hence all we can say about 9/11: "no idea, either version is fishy somewhere".

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Some people deny that Srebrenica slaughtery has happened and say there were only some 100 soldiers killed.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

It was most likely well in thousands. Unfortunately either way there is a huge political interest to keep things only fully uncovered. Because foreign powers did bear some guilt and there was a lot under-the-table dealing. IMO this is the main reason Mladic is not caught. Unlike Osama he is a nice S.O.B. who prefers to keep silent - and that's the best solution for American politics. The last what they want is Mladic and Osama singing like canaries. They took care (most likely) about Osama and Mladic knows, how to take care about himself.

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Some people deny that organ harvesting in Kosovo took place and say there's an 'anti-independence network' working against Kosovo.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

See Srebrenica. Unfortunately American politics was close enough to both. I am very skeptic we will ever know the full truth for all these cases, except the Moon landing.

Je¿ artyleryjski

pre 12 godina

OK, that was fun.
(Je¿ atamañski, 17 May 2011 22:44)

It supposed to be, wouldn't B92 mess up my posts and make a borsht of them. But at least some bits went through that... canon drainpipe. Sigh.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

Well, she is the one that started these rumors to begin with.

Very crafty - it has "job security closer to home" written all over it.

Guess Argentina is to far from home.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

There are many conspiracy out there in the world:

Some people deny that the USA landed on the moon in 1969 and say it all has been a fake, staged somewhere in the desert.
Some people deny that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda was responsible for 9/11 and say the CIA did it.
Some people deny that Srebrenica slaughtery has happened and say there were only some 100 soldiers killed.
Some people deny that organ harvesting in Kosovo took place and say there's an 'anti-independence network' working against Kosovo.


Bizarre... But in the end, the majority believes the truth

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

The numbers dont lie, regardless of your nationality!
(uk, 17 May 2011 11:48)

Uk,

From an Western perspective, Serbia is the main (nr.1) culprit of ALL wars in the region. Lets analyze:

1. War in Slovenia (with Serbian initiative ex-Yugoslav forces attacked Slovenian for declaring the wish of the nation to be free and independent.

2. War in Croatia, similar to that of Slovenia was initiated because Croats declared their wish to be free and independent. You know how many were killed in Vukovar, Siege of Dubrovnik, Slavonia, last but the most important how many were killed in Knin area when RSK was declared once was ethnically cleansed through torture, killing and forceful expulsion. Killed approx 18,000 Croats and 2,000 Serbs.

3. War in Bosnia was the worst of all. Genocide occurred almost in the middle of Europe. Approx 110,000 killed, only a fraction of it approx 7-8,000 Serbs, and 2,000-3000 Croats. 100,000 Bosnian killed, 10,000s women raped by Serbian military. No further comment needed.

4. War in Kosovo also extremely brutal with incentives to increase killings. Killed approx 15,000 Albanians 1500-2000 Serbs.

While I regret every single killing of innocent civilians the above leave many of us in the West speechless on how we left Serbian forces commit such awful crimes one after the other. We in the West were only spectators.

AWFUL!

Now instead of looking to the West and apologizing for the crimes committing Serbs challenge the world on fiction stories, even though they themselves didn't apologize for 15,000 deaths of civilians and 1000s raped women.

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

She, Ms Delponte, will be the last person who will be given the investigation in this (false) accusation of organ trafficking.

Reason: she has soo much info and stories that she can not make the difference anymore in reality and fiction.

Provide evidence and rest assure that if this has happened the persons involved will be facing trial.

If there is no witness protection system in Kosova than I quite sure that Belgrade has.

Tung

roberto

pre 12 godina

--While I regret every single killing of innocent civilians the above leave many of us in the West speechless on how we left Serbian forces commit such awful crimes one after the other. We in the West were only spectators. --

Yes, and I was one of those spectators, voyeurs, if you will. passive voyeur. which i will regret to my dying day. but it doesn't mean we have to remain silent now.

what we are watching, this latest "show" is called: how can we relativize every horrible thing that happened in the past, so as to obscure and therefore "cleanse" ourselves of any normal responsibility. it is not a new approach. back in the day, they spoke about "bad things on all sides." they compared milosevic to tudjman and izetbegovic. now tudman was a nasty piece, and a sometime ally w slobo. but izetbegovic was something entirely different. his greatest sin was that he was wholly not up to the task of defending his country from the aggressor(s). but who would be?

now we have major relativing stage #2 -- kosova was full of criminals, led by criminals, as bad as we were. That is a lie, a great big lie. no one came near to what the serbian-led genocide plan carried out. but it sounds good to the nationalist home stage. and to ignorant internationals.

del ponte is a real... rhymes w/ witch and kitch. i'll settle on witch, the white witch. she is such a drama queen and so basicaaly incompetent, it boggles the (normal) mind. but since she appears to be an ally for the nationalists now, they suddenly eat her up. marty SMEAR report: del ponte/ marty/ moscow/ belgrade. push it and push it as you will, it will fall into the garbage, but a lot of damage is being done in the meantime.

gotta run! cheers!

tung. roberto frisco

NYS

pre 12 godina

"because I know the people involved"

Involved in what? I want names, places, victims, perpetrators.

Serbs, give her a job, she did help you out so help her out.

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Since you are jobless, and Creative in fiction stories why not try to write Del PotterY X7. J. K. Rowling would be jealous of you.

Rest assure that you are doing Serbs more damage than favour even though the latter are the main sponsors.

Serbs instead of focusing on EU agenda and reconciliation in the region, they tend to accuse others, even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s.

rolandi

pre 12 godina

too all serbs please buy her book about kosovo she is damn broke the only people she can fool is those who belive on her fake story she is no thing but worthless on her own shues get real job stop lying to people se you can make some serbian dinnars of of them

ben

pre 12 godina

All B;gd dailies have been at Del Ponte and she has said the same thing all the time: she wants the job.

Everybody knows this.

Where is the news???

Why the ask her same question again and again??? why she answers to same questions with same answers again and again???? nothing better to do??

uk

pre 12 godina

@Serbs instead of focusing on EU agenda and reconciliation in the region, they tend to accuse others, even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s.
(Creative Rationality, 17 May 2011 11:10)

The wonderful irony of your statement that serbs only ever accuse others and then in the very next breath you accuse them of being number one culprit in ALL crimes in region. All crimes..really? I am curious as to how you came to this conclusion? Would you therefore advocate that all countries in the region also give up on chasing justice against all who committed crimes against their people? Serbia is guilty of some crimes just as Croatia and many others in the region are too. nearly 70% of all those sent to the Hague are Serbs and they represent nearly 98% of the total number of Serbs who have been indicted. Despite this huge compliance rate compared to others in the region, still people attack Serbia when she tries to get justice for her dead and the institutions accuse her of not meeting her requirements with rgard to membership of european institutions. Can anyone see a slight imbalance here I wonder? The numbers dont lie, regardless of your nationality!

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Creative Rationality said, "...even though they know that they are by far nr 1 culprits of all crimes that occurred in this region in the 1990s."

Who are you to speak for anyone? Your generalizations, using collective guilt, reminds me of several others on this site. Maybe there are identical twins here or a limited gene pool.

Your creative rationality is creative all right, poorly created and lousy fiction.

mp

pre 12 godina

I guess we will now have the pleasure to read the reactions of 'Kosova' people who know everything that happened and happens in their country.

Anyway, I think Carla Del Ponte is a good choice to lead the investigation. If the investigation leads to nothing, then it will lead to nothing.. but if it leads to something, she will not be scared to make the people involved fall down their fictional throne.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Hey Carla I wouldn't go to Kosovo if I was you. Albanians know you work for Serbs now. You aren't welcome there.
(ivan, 17 May 2011 17:22)

Sooo? I am going to mount the magic drainpipe on my canon and take with me my Russian Rubinar rocket launcher - and going to shoot in Kosovo. And there is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Yes, I do have magic drainpipe, canon and a Russian "Rubinar" rocket launcher. The magic drainpipe is more serious weapon than the Rubinar, don't mess with me.

Sorry, no picture of the drainpipe and the canon - they are in the CLA service now to make sure, they don't miss if I shoot. But the Rubinar rocket launcher is here:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2470/rubin.jpg

If I activate that weapon your "snake" won't even know what did hit him... literally. It's over 5 kg to hold and I can do it without a tripod. So you better to take cover.

Nikola

pre 12 godina

(rolandi, 17 May 2011 10:28)

You think that albanians weren't also tortured by some members of UCK? Hasim Taci and others were probably making money from drugs, organs and human trafficking. Mafia dont care about nationality.

Je¿ atamañski

pre 12 godina

"Now I am going to shoot Ban Ki Moon... You guys will see - I am not kidding! The position is right, he is in best sight for me."

Of course - Moon had zero chances to escape the Russian Rubinar. At it wasn't even a Canon since it is in the service, "just" a Panasonic GH-1.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6352/moonxz.jpg

Next time he better be careful about Kosovo. OK, that was fun.

Rick

pre 12 godina

Why does "team Albania" fear DelPonte's offer to take over the "organ harvesting" investigation??? It actually makes perfect sense. Carla, along with Marty both are Swiss, who are deemed to be status neutral; Carla DOES know the players and situation, on both the Serb and Albanian sides....and she knows the "political intracacies and processes" of the international judicial system. Or Albanians.....do you just want to keep on stalling the process because you know that many of your own are guilty of these hideous crimes against humanity??? Just a thought.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

1000s raped women.
(Creative Rationality, 17 May 2011 13:58)
--
Funny how someone who claims to be an international historian can only repeat propaganda that has long been disproved. We can see the usual Albanian with a highly developed imagination who likes to create their own history, regardless of facts.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Yes, and I was one of those spectators, voyeurs, if you will. passive voyeur. which i will regret to my dying day. but it doesn't mean we have to remain silent now.
tung. roberto frisco
(roberto, 17 May 2011 18:00)
--
Just wondering, are you still spectating the genocide in Palestine? That has been going on for decades and continues to this day, which is in your own back yard. Perhaps you should focus your effort towards stopping that crime instead or don't you care about genocide committed by your own people? Check -> http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/wow/Palestinian_Loss_of_Land_1946_by_nevereverbefore.png

KOSO

pre 12 godina

carla is an ambassador to Argentina....how does she expect to maintain two different jobs in two different continents? Is she hoping to skype it day in and day out?

To this day the world awaits for evidence from dick and carla....don't worry sooner or later both these disgusting individuals will be slapped with defamation. They both remind me of demagogue sen J.Mcarthy, simply disgusting!!


Thanks,

Analyst

pre 12 godina

The first step for a serious and unbiased UN investigation in these crime allegations must be to suspend all the suspects from political power (including Thaci) and send them to pre-trial custody, just like the US judges did with the IMF president accused of sexual abuse.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

There are many conspiracy out there in the world:

Some people deny that the USA landed on the moon in 1969 and say it all has been a fake, staged somewhere in the desert.
Some people deny that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda was responsible for 9/11 and say the CIA did it.
Some people deny that Srebrenica slaughtery has happened and say there were only some 100 soldiers killed.
Some people deny that organ harvesting in Kosovo took place and say there's an 'anti-independence network' working against Kosovo.


Bizarre... But in the end, the majority believes the truth

dd

pre 12 godina

O myyyyyyyyyy. What load of deception and propaganda - frisca tanga from Roberto - same person probably.
Not even Roberto in tunga Hate Exstasy can put those numbers and BS - poor Slovenian and Croats - attacked by JNA - they just wanted to separate and grab land - and realocate JNA and all others- Jasenovac style.
VEry, very Creative - but fails big time on Rationality.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Is she looking for a job, because she got fired?If so go and look in Serbia or Russia.
As for Kosovo you have lost your credibility, since you left Milosevich to die as innocent man, when all people in Balkan were excpecting the opposite.
Secondly,you are not impartial in this case.You are sure that organ trade happened and you will distort all the facts or make up stories, in order to get your way.
I trust more an investigator from China,Russia or Venezuela than you Carla del Ponte.

Je¿ SS-owski

pre 12 godina

I'm glad I never let my bitterness let me indulge in such hatred as certain nationalists and liberals do.
(bganon, 18 May 2011 00:26)

He is a self-appointed liberal. In the reality: one of the two ultimate bigots of the B92. BTW: neither Standartenführer of New York nor Obersturmbahnführer of "Frisco" is Albanian. Albanians can wash their hands at least in this case.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are many conspiracy out there in the world:

Some people deny that the USA landed on the moon in 1969 and say it all has been a fake, staged somewhere in the desert.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

some people will now believe, I am the moderator of B92 because your joke about the Moon came across mine about the Moon, independently. So I have to be the God of B92 than.

---

Some people deny that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda was responsible for 9/11 and say the CIA did it.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

I did not see a serious investigation and a court decision which concluded, Bin Laden was responsible. Now that is impossible. But wait, maybe that is behind of what happened (or happened?) May 3. BTW: CIA, Mossad, Elvis Presley and Illuminati had zero incentive to do the 9/11. But interest of some greedy S.O.B.-s could well meet the interest of some S.O.B. politicians. You do not need to have more than 10 people know the details... and the rest few dozen could be easily eliminated in the building 7, as it precisely happened.

Than, again - there is no iron-clad proof of that, too. Hence all we can say about 9/11: "no idea, either version is fishy somewhere".

---

Some people deny that Srebrenica slaughtery has happened and say there were only some 100 soldiers killed.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

It was most likely well in thousands. Unfortunately either way there is a huge political interest to keep things only fully uncovered. Because foreign powers did bear some guilt and there was a lot under-the-table dealing. IMO this is the main reason Mladic is not caught. Unlike Osama he is a nice S.O.B. who prefers to keep silent - and that's the best solution for American politics. The last what they want is Mladic and Osama singing like canaries. They took care (most likely) about Osama and Mladic knows, how to take care about himself.

---

Some people deny that organ harvesting in Kosovo took place and say there's an 'anti-independence network' working against Kosovo.
(Analyst, 17 May 2011 21:25)

See Srebrenica. Unfortunately American politics was close enough to both. I am very skeptic we will ever know the full truth for all these cases, except the Moon landing.

Staff

pre 12 godina

This is pefect ! del Ponte is not afraid of anyone, she has put many persons on every side in prison. I think she will have this post. And by the way, neither Serbia or its province Kosovo decides one bit of this. UNSC does. Period.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

roberto said, "..del ponte is a real... rhymes w/ witch and kitch. i'll settle on witch, the white witch. she is such a drama queen and so basicaaly incompetent, it boggles the (normal) mind."

Look who is calling someone else a drama queen and incompetent ..... too funny.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

Well, she is the one that started these rumors to begin with.

Very crafty - it has "job security closer to home" written all over it.

Guess Argentina is to far from home.

Je¿ artyleryjski

pre 12 godina

OK, that was fun.
(Je¿ atamañski, 17 May 2011 22:44)

It supposed to be, wouldn't B92 mess up my posts and make a borsht of them. But at least some bits went through that... canon drainpipe. Sigh.

bganon

pre 12 godina

Interesting the way that our western 'liberal friends' are now referring to women they disagree with as 'witches'.

Should they be burned at the stake as well?

And we supposed Serbian moderates are accused of abandoning 'the(ir) cause'. It looks a little to me that this demonising of women makes liberals join with extreme nationalist behaviour. What next, will Dick Marty be 'accused' of being gay because of his report? Perhaps its the 'liberals' that need to return to moderation.

I'm glad I never let my bitterness let me indulge in such hatred as certain nationalists and liberals do.