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Monday, 16.05.2011.

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"Belgrade wants to make dialogue political"

Edita Tahiri has stated that Belgrade's negotiating team is trying to change the character of the dialogue and make it political.

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lowe

pre 12 godina

"@ "lowe"
Well who's going to stop them from returning to their homes then? You forget that this is not 1999 and serbs cannot do whatever they want to. Things are a little different now if you haven't noticed. Even the international community urges everyone (not only serbs)to return. The number of albanians that will return will be larger than that of the Serbian. So northern part won't be exclusively Serbian as you tried to make it. Dont worry, everything has its time ;)
(Anonymous, 17 May 2011 12:44) "


well, if they could have returned en masse, then why have they not yet done so? Are they waiting for a red carpet welcome? Until that happens (IF and WHEN it does as I stated earlier, your wish remains a mere fantasy for now).

This is 2011 but just as it was back in 1999, Pristina was never in charge of N Kosovo -- it was UNMIK and KFOR back then, it is EULEX and KFOR today. Don't kid yourself. The last thing the West wants is an ethnic bloodbath anywhere in Kosovo, especially the north, which would immediately unveil the big lie in front of the entire world about "Kosova" being a multiethnic paradise!

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

@ "lowe"
Well who's going to stop them from returning to their homes then? You forget that this is not 1999 and serbs cannot do whatever they want to. Things are a little different now if you haven't noticed. Even the international community urges everyone (not only serbs)to return. The number of albanians that will return will be larger than that of the Serbian. So northern part won't be exclusively Serbian as you tried to make it. Dont worry, everything has its time ;)

lowe

pre 12 godina

"@ "lowe". When albanians return to their homes in the northern part of Kosovo they too will "enjoy the bone".
(Anonymous, 17 May 2011 09:33)"

IF and WHEN they do, that is -- they have been unable to do so since 1999. In the meantime they can bark and salivate at the lack of a bone for all the Serbs care.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!
(demi, 16 May 2011 18:56)"

Let me rephrase your sentence for you with reference to North Kosovo!

Pristina can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! K-Serbs are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!

Engineer

pre 12 godina

@engineer

Everybody realizes that our southernmost province is occupied by illegal aliens. But please do not take credit for that. The whole world knows that your people are nothing more than clients to the West to serve their own interests. It is not because of you why there are no MUP's in Kosovo, it is because of the strongest military alliance on the planet. What is happening today however is far different than what happened in the 90's. Countries that don't answer to the current world empire are slowly emerging and soon the current empire will be known as the old empire. What is happening now is the empire wants to drag Serbia down to the hole they are digging for themselves in the not so distant future. It has already started today in the USA and it will only get worse for Western Europe.

Remember Albanians, our worst mistake is the best you can ever hope for. You must hope for Serbia and Serbs to just forget about Kosovo and to grow fatigue at the issue. You must hope that the West will keep blindly supporting your welfare hellhole while they themselves are suffering. The point of this is you are not independent people, you depend on Serbia's weakness and the West's money to even be in the prison you are currently in.

Isn't that a shame? All the billions of handouts your people got and what do you have to show for it? Serbia (the part thats only occupied by Serbian puppets to the West) survived a bombing for 78 days, 3 wars and economic sanctions and Vojvodina and Central Srbija is still the most well developed and advanced parts of the country in every aspect of society. Kosovo by fact gets 100x more aid than the rest of Serbia so why is it that the infrastructure is next to nothing and the living standards mimic those of African countries that have been in turmoil for decades.

Why is your motherland Albania, who had no wars (didn't even help their brethren occupy Serbia) had no sanctions in such terrible shape today? If you compare Serbs side by side with Albanians it is 100% indisputable fact that Serbs are more advanced, more modern and will find a way to make it work despite everything that is being thrown at them. Its almost as if you Albanians love living in filth and poverty. And now you want to drag Serbia's ancient territory down with you to this hole.

If you Albanians love Kosovo so much why do you treat it like trash? Why is it so dirty in Kosovo? Do you love living in filth? What is it, I don't understand. Somehow I have a feeling that once Serbia performs a deep cleansing on the province from all the bad apples that just tarnish the very name "Kosovo" that it will finally reach its full potential as a prosperous region.

But prosperous and Albanian are not synonymous
(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 20:41)

Wow must have hit a nerve there, First why would you say you people as its we are beneath you.

Kosovo is much better than it was under Serbia, Billions in Aid were given to repair what your brother Serbs did by burning homes and not investing anything from 1989 and pushing Albanians to live as second Citizens.

Kosovo is dirty, has huge unemployment and it has many other bad things but we love it here and we want to be left alone. I go offten to Serbia and I dont think outside Belgrade or Novi Sad Serbia is Developed trust me unemployment keeps growing and contrary what they publish Average Salary is 150Euros in most of Serbia outside those cities.

Go to Nis and you will see and Serbia has never been under occupation and not been treated as second class citizens.

Again you try to insult but it does not serve a point since it coming from someone bitter. You destroyed Yugoslavia and blame it on all others except Serbs how does that make seance? You live in impoverish country and you make fun of all your neighbors.

Development is not done for free it was to apease Serbs during Tito time wish we had same support Trepca radi Beograd se gradi :)

You need to learn you place in Balkans and for all Serbs that say we will wait 500 years to get Kosovo back good luck wish you all the best we will enjoy it next 500 years and lets talk then.

Just in 1998 no Serb ever thought they will be holding the short side of stick in Kosovo, you wanted all got nothing lets hope you get Autonomy in north and we will give u with pleasure but we will move there and build and we will be majority there as well so its lost cause.

Skifteri

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)


Maybee Belgrade is a fine city but I wouldent go there since I would be afraid to get beaten by hooligans. This is the impression I have from Belgrade. Turist gets beaten up by serbs if they are in the wrong place.


And we albanians dosent expect much from the dialoug since both Serbia and Kosovo are ''forced'' to have this dialoug by EU. But we albanians are not worried like Serbia should be since we control the territory of Kosovo and live in the territory.

Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!
(demi, 16 May 2011 18:56)

_______________________


I can't help but notice how you spell Albanian and Serbian, capital A is missing for Albanian but not for the Serbs.

Just thought i needed to point it out to someone who claims to be Albanian, though i doubt it once i notice such spelling mistakes.

I only expect to see this from a Serb commentator and not Albanian.

Not something to get all worked up for but it is noticable.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

@engineer

Everybody realizes that our southernmost province is occupied by illegal aliens. But please do not take credit for that. The whole world knows that your people are nothing more than clients to the West to serve their own interests. It is not because of you why there are no MUP's in Kosovo, it is because of the strongest military alliance on the planet. What is happening today however is far different than what happened in the 90's. Countries that don't answer to the current world empire are slowly emerging and soon the current empire will be known as the old empire. What is happening now is the empire wants to drag Serbia down to the hole they are digging for themselves in the not so distant future. It has already started today in the USA and it will only get worse for Western Europe.

Remember Albanians, our worst mistake is the best you can ever hope for. You must hope for Serbia and Serbs to just forget about Kosovo and to grow fatigue at the issue. You must hope that the West will keep blindly supporting your welfare hellhole while they themselves are suffering. The point of this is you are not independent people, you depend on Serbia's weakness and the West's money to even be in the prison you are currently in.

Isn't that a shame? All the billions of handouts your people got and what do you have to show for it? Serbia (the part thats only occupied by Serbian puppets to the West) survived a bombing for 78 days, 3 wars and economic sanctions and Vojvodina and Central Srbija is still the most well developed and advanced parts of the country in every aspect of society. Kosovo by fact gets 100x more aid than the rest of Serbia so why is it that the infrastructure is next to nothing and the living standards mimic those of African countries that have been in turmoil for decades.

Why is your motherland Albania, who had no wars (didn't even help their brethren occupy Serbia) had no sanctions in such terrible shape today? If you compare Serbs side by side with Albanians it is 100% indisputable fact that Serbs are more advanced, more modern and will find a way to make it work despite everything that is being thrown at them. Its almost as if you Albanians love living in filth and poverty. And now you want to drag Serbia's ancient territory down with you to this hole.

If you Albanians love Kosovo so much why do you treat it like trash? Why is it so dirty in Kosovo? Do you love living in filth? What is it, I don't understand. Somehow I have a feeling that once Serbia performs a deep cleansing on the province from all the bad apples that just tarnish the very name "Kosovo" that it will finally reach its full potential as a prosperous region.

But prosperous and Albanian are not synonymous

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Ari Gold

Are you serious mate? Just because Ivan does not support your cause now he "hates" Serbia!

Ps: Ari in Albanian means Gold! Any conections?

ben

pre 12 godina

Well Mrs Tahiri a bit of sense of realism form our side wouldn't harm neither.

The issue is political and if we were capable to solve the political issue properly then the discussions with Blgd would have last 24hours concerning the Serbian minority in Kosova and Kosova would have had seat in UN 3 years ago.

Well it looks we are not talking about the minority rights of Serbians in Kosova and neither Kosova is a UN member.

So it would be wise behind doors to strike a deal: land swap for some large local autonomy and mutual recognition.

After all had we Albos won the war at least in 90% by ourselves then we could just show the middle finger to Blgd but the truth is we did not.

Top

pre 12 godina

There's a thin line between technical and political dialogue. Many of the 'technical problems' are simple results of pure political decisions, for example the need to discuss about seized number plates or the custom stamps.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Ivan you seem to care about Belgrade and Serbs a lot. Why else would you come on here on the daily to repeat the same things that nobody cares about over and over. You care more about Serbia than Serbs do it seems. And you know I have made these assumptions before yet you never directly answer them because you know I'm right and it hurts you.

I'd advise you to visit Serbia. Everywhere of course but it's southernmost province. There its just a haven for heroin, organs and everything else bad. But Belgrade is a beautiful city, I'm sure you would like it. So come on, no one is fooled here. Either you have all the time in the world or you secretly are obsessed with Serbs because they are everything you want your people to be.

Anyway, of course this issue is politicized. What did the K.Albs really expect to achieve at these talks? Even K.Albs on this site say they are against these talks because yes it is not in your national interest and you will soon realize that.
(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)

LOL ahhahaa Very very funny.

SOuth province of Serbia ok but why do I get a Stamp of Kosovo when I visit Kosovo. Why I dont see any Serbian MUP with Yugos running up and down?

Then negotiations have moved to How we will solve the North part of Mitrovica and that is a acceptable solution to all.

Serbian Constitution that was cooked and changed without asking Kosovo Albanians if they agree!!! When u ask Serbs about splinting Vojvodina they say come here and u see 70% Serbs. so ok lets do a referendum in Kosovo and see what happens my friend.

Serbia is just not as powerful as people who live in other continents with Serbian origin since just read B92 coments in Serbian and you will see what they say no food, no jobs dont care about Kosovo.

Ari go and look and if you dont speak Serbian Use google.

Ciao

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Ivan you seem to care about Belgrade and Serbs a lot. Why else would you come on here on the daily to repeat the same things that nobody cares about over and over. You care more about Serbia than Serbs do it seems. And you know I have made these assumptions before yet you never directly answer them because you know I'm right and it hurts you.

I'd advise you to visit Serbia. Everywhere of course but it's southernmost province. There its just a haven for heroin, organs and everything else bad. But Belgrade is a beautiful city, I'm sure you would like it. So come on, no one is fooled here. Either you have all the time in the world or you secretly are obsessed with Serbs because they are everything you want your people to be.

Anyway, of course this issue is politicized. What did the K.Albs really expect to achieve at these talks? Even K.Albs on this site say they are against these talks because yes it is not in your national interest and you will soon realize that.

demi

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)


Maybee Belgrade is a fine city but I wouldent go there since I would be afraid to get beaten by hooligans. This is the impression I have from Belgrade. Turist gets beaten up by serbs if they are in the wrong place.


And we albanians dosent expect much from the dialoug since both Serbia and Kosovo are ''forced'' to have this dialoug by EU. But we albanians are not worried like Serbia should be since we control the territory of Kosovo and live in the territory.

Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!

highduke

pre 12 godina

I doubt Tahiri is naive enough to believe that there is some fine line between political & technical matters, instead this is a covert admission that Serbia has the upper hand and is strong-arming her side.

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

Very smart woman this Ms Tahiri.

Although I was (and still am) against these negotiations because of these kind of Serb manipulation.

Nevertheless, I feel very comfortable with having Ms Tahire representing Kosova.

Tung

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

Very smart woman this Ms Tahiri.

Although I was (and still am) against these negotiations because of these kind of Serb manipulation.

Nevertheless, I feel very comfortable with having Ms Tahire representing Kosova.

Tung

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Ivan you seem to care about Belgrade and Serbs a lot. Why else would you come on here on the daily to repeat the same things that nobody cares about over and over. You care more about Serbia than Serbs do it seems. And you know I have made these assumptions before yet you never directly answer them because you know I'm right and it hurts you.

I'd advise you to visit Serbia. Everywhere of course but it's southernmost province. There its just a haven for heroin, organs and everything else bad. But Belgrade is a beautiful city, I'm sure you would like it. So come on, no one is fooled here. Either you have all the time in the world or you secretly are obsessed with Serbs because they are everything you want your people to be.

Anyway, of course this issue is politicized. What did the K.Albs really expect to achieve at these talks? Even K.Albs on this site say they are against these talks because yes it is not in your national interest and you will soon realize that.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Ivan you seem to care about Belgrade and Serbs a lot. Why else would you come on here on the daily to repeat the same things that nobody cares about over and over. You care more about Serbia than Serbs do it seems. And you know I have made these assumptions before yet you never directly answer them because you know I'm right and it hurts you.

I'd advise you to visit Serbia. Everywhere of course but it's southernmost province. There its just a haven for heroin, organs and everything else bad. But Belgrade is a beautiful city, I'm sure you would like it. So come on, no one is fooled here. Either you have all the time in the world or you secretly are obsessed with Serbs because they are everything you want your people to be.

Anyway, of course this issue is politicized. What did the K.Albs really expect to achieve at these talks? Even K.Albs on this site say they are against these talks because yes it is not in your national interest and you will soon realize that.
(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)

LOL ahhahaa Very very funny.

SOuth province of Serbia ok but why do I get a Stamp of Kosovo when I visit Kosovo. Why I dont see any Serbian MUP with Yugos running up and down?

Then negotiations have moved to How we will solve the North part of Mitrovica and that is a acceptable solution to all.

Serbian Constitution that was cooked and changed without asking Kosovo Albanians if they agree!!! When u ask Serbs about splinting Vojvodina they say come here and u see 70% Serbs. so ok lets do a referendum in Kosovo and see what happens my friend.

Serbia is just not as powerful as people who live in other continents with Serbian origin since just read B92 coments in Serbian and you will see what they say no food, no jobs dont care about Kosovo.

Ari go and look and if you dont speak Serbian Use google.

Ciao

demi

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)


Maybee Belgrade is a fine city but I wouldent go there since I would be afraid to get beaten by hooligans. This is the impression I have from Belgrade. Turist gets beaten up by serbs if they are in the wrong place.


And we albanians dosent expect much from the dialoug since both Serbia and Kosovo are ''forced'' to have this dialoug by EU. But we albanians are not worried like Serbia should be since we control the territory of Kosovo and live in the territory.

Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!

Top

pre 12 godina

There's a thin line between technical and political dialogue. Many of the 'technical problems' are simple results of pure political decisions, for example the need to discuss about seized number plates or the custom stamps.

highduke

pre 12 godina

I doubt Tahiri is naive enough to believe that there is some fine line between political & technical matters, instead this is a covert admission that Serbia has the upper hand and is strong-arming her side.

ben

pre 12 godina

Well Mrs Tahiri a bit of sense of realism form our side wouldn't harm neither.

The issue is political and if we were capable to solve the political issue properly then the discussions with Blgd would have last 24hours concerning the Serbian minority in Kosova and Kosova would have had seat in UN 3 years ago.

Well it looks we are not talking about the minority rights of Serbians in Kosova and neither Kosova is a UN member.

So it would be wise behind doors to strike a deal: land swap for some large local autonomy and mutual recognition.

After all had we Albos won the war at least in 90% by ourselves then we could just show the middle finger to Blgd but the truth is we did not.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

@engineer

Everybody realizes that our southernmost province is occupied by illegal aliens. But please do not take credit for that. The whole world knows that your people are nothing more than clients to the West to serve their own interests. It is not because of you why there are no MUP's in Kosovo, it is because of the strongest military alliance on the planet. What is happening today however is far different than what happened in the 90's. Countries that don't answer to the current world empire are slowly emerging and soon the current empire will be known as the old empire. What is happening now is the empire wants to drag Serbia down to the hole they are digging for themselves in the not so distant future. It has already started today in the USA and it will only get worse for Western Europe.

Remember Albanians, our worst mistake is the best you can ever hope for. You must hope for Serbia and Serbs to just forget about Kosovo and to grow fatigue at the issue. You must hope that the West will keep blindly supporting your welfare hellhole while they themselves are suffering. The point of this is you are not independent people, you depend on Serbia's weakness and the West's money to even be in the prison you are currently in.

Isn't that a shame? All the billions of handouts your people got and what do you have to show for it? Serbia (the part thats only occupied by Serbian puppets to the West) survived a bombing for 78 days, 3 wars and economic sanctions and Vojvodina and Central Srbija is still the most well developed and advanced parts of the country in every aspect of society. Kosovo by fact gets 100x more aid than the rest of Serbia so why is it that the infrastructure is next to nothing and the living standards mimic those of African countries that have been in turmoil for decades.

Why is your motherland Albania, who had no wars (didn't even help their brethren occupy Serbia) had no sanctions in such terrible shape today? If you compare Serbs side by side with Albanians it is 100% indisputable fact that Serbs are more advanced, more modern and will find a way to make it work despite everything that is being thrown at them. Its almost as if you Albanians love living in filth and poverty. And now you want to drag Serbia's ancient territory down with you to this hole.

If you Albanians love Kosovo so much why do you treat it like trash? Why is it so dirty in Kosovo? Do you love living in filth? What is it, I don't understand. Somehow I have a feeling that once Serbia performs a deep cleansing on the province from all the bad apples that just tarnish the very name "Kosovo" that it will finally reach its full potential as a prosperous region.

But prosperous and Albanian are not synonymous

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Ari Gold

Are you serious mate? Just because Ivan does not support your cause now he "hates" Serbia!

Ps: Ari in Albanian means Gold! Any conections?

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!
(demi, 16 May 2011 18:56)"

Let me rephrase your sentence for you with reference to North Kosovo!

Pristina can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! K-Serbs are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!

Engineer

pre 12 godina

@engineer

Everybody realizes that our southernmost province is occupied by illegal aliens. But please do not take credit for that. The whole world knows that your people are nothing more than clients to the West to serve their own interests. It is not because of you why there are no MUP's in Kosovo, it is because of the strongest military alliance on the planet. What is happening today however is far different than what happened in the 90's. Countries that don't answer to the current world empire are slowly emerging and soon the current empire will be known as the old empire. What is happening now is the empire wants to drag Serbia down to the hole they are digging for themselves in the not so distant future. It has already started today in the USA and it will only get worse for Western Europe.

Remember Albanians, our worst mistake is the best you can ever hope for. You must hope for Serbia and Serbs to just forget about Kosovo and to grow fatigue at the issue. You must hope that the West will keep blindly supporting your welfare hellhole while they themselves are suffering. The point of this is you are not independent people, you depend on Serbia's weakness and the West's money to even be in the prison you are currently in.

Isn't that a shame? All the billions of handouts your people got and what do you have to show for it? Serbia (the part thats only occupied by Serbian puppets to the West) survived a bombing for 78 days, 3 wars and economic sanctions and Vojvodina and Central Srbija is still the most well developed and advanced parts of the country in every aspect of society. Kosovo by fact gets 100x more aid than the rest of Serbia so why is it that the infrastructure is next to nothing and the living standards mimic those of African countries that have been in turmoil for decades.

Why is your motherland Albania, who had no wars (didn't even help their brethren occupy Serbia) had no sanctions in such terrible shape today? If you compare Serbs side by side with Albanians it is 100% indisputable fact that Serbs are more advanced, more modern and will find a way to make it work despite everything that is being thrown at them. Its almost as if you Albanians love living in filth and poverty. And now you want to drag Serbia's ancient territory down with you to this hole.

If you Albanians love Kosovo so much why do you treat it like trash? Why is it so dirty in Kosovo? Do you love living in filth? What is it, I don't understand. Somehow I have a feeling that once Serbia performs a deep cleansing on the province from all the bad apples that just tarnish the very name "Kosovo" that it will finally reach its full potential as a prosperous region.

But prosperous and Albanian are not synonymous
(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 20:41)

Wow must have hit a nerve there, First why would you say you people as its we are beneath you.

Kosovo is much better than it was under Serbia, Billions in Aid were given to repair what your brother Serbs did by burning homes and not investing anything from 1989 and pushing Albanians to live as second Citizens.

Kosovo is dirty, has huge unemployment and it has many other bad things but we love it here and we want to be left alone. I go offten to Serbia and I dont think outside Belgrade or Novi Sad Serbia is Developed trust me unemployment keeps growing and contrary what they publish Average Salary is 150Euros in most of Serbia outside those cities.

Go to Nis and you will see and Serbia has never been under occupation and not been treated as second class citizens.

Again you try to insult but it does not serve a point since it coming from someone bitter. You destroyed Yugoslavia and blame it on all others except Serbs how does that make seance? You live in impoverish country and you make fun of all your neighbors.

Development is not done for free it was to apease Serbs during Tito time wish we had same support Trepca radi Beograd se gradi :)

You need to learn you place in Balkans and for all Serbs that say we will wait 500 years to get Kosovo back good luck wish you all the best we will enjoy it next 500 years and lets talk then.

Just in 1998 no Serb ever thought they will be holding the short side of stick in Kosovo, you wanted all got nothing lets hope you get Autonomy in north and we will give u with pleasure but we will move there and build and we will be majority there as well so its lost cause.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"@ "lowe"
Well who's going to stop them from returning to their homes then? You forget that this is not 1999 and serbs cannot do whatever they want to. Things are a little different now if you haven't noticed. Even the international community urges everyone (not only serbs)to return. The number of albanians that will return will be larger than that of the Serbian. So northern part won't be exclusively Serbian as you tried to make it. Dont worry, everything has its time ;)
(Anonymous, 17 May 2011 12:44) "


well, if they could have returned en masse, then why have they not yet done so? Are they waiting for a red carpet welcome? Until that happens (IF and WHEN it does as I stated earlier, your wish remains a mere fantasy for now).

This is 2011 but just as it was back in 1999, Pristina was never in charge of N Kosovo -- it was UNMIK and KFOR back then, it is EULEX and KFOR today. Don't kid yourself. The last thing the West wants is an ethnic bloodbath anywhere in Kosovo, especially the north, which would immediately unveil the big lie in front of the entire world about "Kosova" being a multiethnic paradise!

lowe

pre 12 godina

"@ "lowe". When albanians return to their homes in the northern part of Kosovo they too will "enjoy the bone".
(Anonymous, 17 May 2011 09:33)"

IF and WHEN they do, that is -- they have been unable to do so since 1999. In the meantime they can bark and salivate at the lack of a bone for all the Serbs care.

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

@ "lowe"
Well who's going to stop them from returning to their homes then? You forget that this is not 1999 and serbs cannot do whatever they want to. Things are a little different now if you haven't noticed. Even the international community urges everyone (not only serbs)to return. The number of albanians that will return will be larger than that of the Serbian. So northern part won't be exclusively Serbian as you tried to make it. Dont worry, everything has its time ;)

Skifteri

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)


Maybee Belgrade is a fine city but I wouldent go there since I would be afraid to get beaten by hooligans. This is the impression I have from Belgrade. Turist gets beaten up by serbs if they are in the wrong place.


And we albanians dosent expect much from the dialoug since both Serbia and Kosovo are ''forced'' to have this dialoug by EU. But we albanians are not worried like Serbia should be since we control the territory of Kosovo and live in the territory.

Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!
(demi, 16 May 2011 18:56)

_______________________


I can't help but notice how you spell Albanian and Serbian, capital A is missing for Albanian but not for the Serbs.

Just thought i needed to point it out to someone who claims to be Albanian, though i doubt it once i notice such spelling mistakes.

I only expect to see this from a Serb commentator and not Albanian.

Not something to get all worked up for but it is noticable.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Ivan you seem to care about Belgrade and Serbs a lot. Why else would you come on here on the daily to repeat the same things that nobody cares about over and over. You care more about Serbia than Serbs do it seems. And you know I have made these assumptions before yet you never directly answer them because you know I'm right and it hurts you.

I'd advise you to visit Serbia. Everywhere of course but it's southernmost province. There its just a haven for heroin, organs and everything else bad. But Belgrade is a beautiful city, I'm sure you would like it. So come on, no one is fooled here. Either you have all the time in the world or you secretly are obsessed with Serbs because they are everything you want your people to be.

Anyway, of course this issue is politicized. What did the K.Albs really expect to achieve at these talks? Even K.Albs on this site say they are against these talks because yes it is not in your national interest and you will soon realize that.

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

Very smart woman this Ms Tahiri.

Although I was (and still am) against these negotiations because of these kind of Serb manipulation.

Nevertheless, I feel very comfortable with having Ms Tahire representing Kosova.

Tung

highduke

pre 12 godina

I doubt Tahiri is naive enough to believe that there is some fine line between political & technical matters, instead this is a covert admission that Serbia has the upper hand and is strong-arming her side.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

@engineer

Everybody realizes that our southernmost province is occupied by illegal aliens. But please do not take credit for that. The whole world knows that your people are nothing more than clients to the West to serve their own interests. It is not because of you why there are no MUP's in Kosovo, it is because of the strongest military alliance on the planet. What is happening today however is far different than what happened in the 90's. Countries that don't answer to the current world empire are slowly emerging and soon the current empire will be known as the old empire. What is happening now is the empire wants to drag Serbia down to the hole they are digging for themselves in the not so distant future. It has already started today in the USA and it will only get worse for Western Europe.

Remember Albanians, our worst mistake is the best you can ever hope for. You must hope for Serbia and Serbs to just forget about Kosovo and to grow fatigue at the issue. You must hope that the West will keep blindly supporting your welfare hellhole while they themselves are suffering. The point of this is you are not independent people, you depend on Serbia's weakness and the West's money to even be in the prison you are currently in.

Isn't that a shame? All the billions of handouts your people got and what do you have to show for it? Serbia (the part thats only occupied by Serbian puppets to the West) survived a bombing for 78 days, 3 wars and economic sanctions and Vojvodina and Central Srbija is still the most well developed and advanced parts of the country in every aspect of society. Kosovo by fact gets 100x more aid than the rest of Serbia so why is it that the infrastructure is next to nothing and the living standards mimic those of African countries that have been in turmoil for decades.

Why is your motherland Albania, who had no wars (didn't even help their brethren occupy Serbia) had no sanctions in such terrible shape today? If you compare Serbs side by side with Albanians it is 100% indisputable fact that Serbs are more advanced, more modern and will find a way to make it work despite everything that is being thrown at them. Its almost as if you Albanians love living in filth and poverty. And now you want to drag Serbia's ancient territory down with you to this hole.

If you Albanians love Kosovo so much why do you treat it like trash? Why is it so dirty in Kosovo? Do you love living in filth? What is it, I don't understand. Somehow I have a feeling that once Serbia performs a deep cleansing on the province from all the bad apples that just tarnish the very name "Kosovo" that it will finally reach its full potential as a prosperous region.

But prosperous and Albanian are not synonymous

demi

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(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)


Maybee Belgrade is a fine city but I wouldent go there since I would be afraid to get beaten by hooligans. This is the impression I have from Belgrade. Turist gets beaten up by serbs if they are in the wrong place.


And we albanians dosent expect much from the dialoug since both Serbia and Kosovo are ''forced'' to have this dialoug by EU. But we albanians are not worried like Serbia should be since we control the territory of Kosovo and live in the territory.

Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!

Top

pre 12 godina

There's a thin line between technical and political dialogue. Many of the 'technical problems' are simple results of pure political decisions, for example the need to discuss about seized number plates or the custom stamps.

Skifteri

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)


Maybee Belgrade is a fine city but I wouldent go there since I would be afraid to get beaten by hooligans. This is the impression I have from Belgrade. Turist gets beaten up by serbs if they are in the wrong place.


And we albanians dosent expect much from the dialoug since both Serbia and Kosovo are ''forced'' to have this dialoug by EU. But we albanians are not worried like Serbia should be since we control the territory of Kosovo and live in the territory.

Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!
(demi, 16 May 2011 18:56)

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I can't help but notice how you spell Albanian and Serbian, capital A is missing for Albanian but not for the Serbs.

Just thought i needed to point it out to someone who claims to be Albanian, though i doubt it once i notice such spelling mistakes.

I only expect to see this from a Serb commentator and not Albanian.

Not something to get all worked up for but it is noticable.

Engineer

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Ivan you seem to care about Belgrade and Serbs a lot. Why else would you come on here on the daily to repeat the same things that nobody cares about over and over. You care more about Serbia than Serbs do it seems. And you know I have made these assumptions before yet you never directly answer them because you know I'm right and it hurts you.

I'd advise you to visit Serbia. Everywhere of course but it's southernmost province. There its just a haven for heroin, organs and everything else bad. But Belgrade is a beautiful city, I'm sure you would like it. So come on, no one is fooled here. Either you have all the time in the world or you secretly are obsessed with Serbs because they are everything you want your people to be.

Anyway, of course this issue is politicized. What did the K.Albs really expect to achieve at these talks? Even K.Albs on this site say they are against these talks because yes it is not in your national interest and you will soon realize that.
(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 18:12)

LOL ahhahaa Very very funny.

SOuth province of Serbia ok but why do I get a Stamp of Kosovo when I visit Kosovo. Why I dont see any Serbian MUP with Yugos running up and down?

Then negotiations have moved to How we will solve the North part of Mitrovica and that is a acceptable solution to all.

Serbian Constitution that was cooked and changed without asking Kosovo Albanians if they agree!!! When u ask Serbs about splinting Vojvodina they say come here and u see 70% Serbs. so ok lets do a referendum in Kosovo and see what happens my friend.

Serbia is just not as powerful as people who live in other continents with Serbian origin since just read B92 coments in Serbian and you will see what they say no food, no jobs dont care about Kosovo.

Ari go and look and if you dont speak Serbian Use google.

Ciao

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Ari Gold

Are you serious mate? Just because Ivan does not support your cause now he "hates" Serbia!

Ps: Ari in Albanian means Gold! Any conections?

lowe

pre 12 godina

"@ "lowe". When albanians return to their homes in the northern part of Kosovo they too will "enjoy the bone".
(Anonymous, 17 May 2011 09:33)"

IF and WHEN they do, that is -- they have been unable to do so since 1999. In the meantime they can bark and salivate at the lack of a bone for all the Serbs care.

lowe

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"@ "lowe"
Well who's going to stop them from returning to their homes then? You forget that this is not 1999 and serbs cannot do whatever they want to. Things are a little different now if you haven't noticed. Even the international community urges everyone (not only serbs)to return. The number of albanians that will return will be larger than that of the Serbian. So northern part won't be exclusively Serbian as you tried to make it. Dont worry, everything has its time ;)
(Anonymous, 17 May 2011 12:44) "


well, if they could have returned en masse, then why have they not yet done so? Are they waiting for a red carpet welcome? Until that happens (IF and WHEN it does as I stated earlier, your wish remains a mere fantasy for now).

This is 2011 but just as it was back in 1999, Pristina was never in charge of N Kosovo -- it was UNMIK and KFOR back then, it is EULEX and KFOR today. Don't kid yourself. The last thing the West wants is an ethnic bloodbath anywhere in Kosovo, especially the north, which would immediately unveil the big lie in front of the entire world about "Kosova" being a multiethnic paradise!

ben

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Well Mrs Tahiri a bit of sense of realism form our side wouldn't harm neither.

The issue is political and if we were capable to solve the political issue properly then the discussions with Blgd would have last 24hours concerning the Serbian minority in Kosova and Kosova would have had seat in UN 3 years ago.

Well it looks we are not talking about the minority rights of Serbians in Kosova and neither Kosova is a UN member.

So it would be wise behind doors to strike a deal: land swap for some large local autonomy and mutual recognition.

After all had we Albos won the war at least in 90% by ourselves then we could just show the middle finger to Blgd but the truth is we did not.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

@engineer

Everybody realizes that our southernmost province is occupied by illegal aliens. But please do not take credit for that. The whole world knows that your people are nothing more than clients to the West to serve their own interests. It is not because of you why there are no MUP's in Kosovo, it is because of the strongest military alliance on the planet. What is happening today however is far different than what happened in the 90's. Countries that don't answer to the current world empire are slowly emerging and soon the current empire will be known as the old empire. What is happening now is the empire wants to drag Serbia down to the hole they are digging for themselves in the not so distant future. It has already started today in the USA and it will only get worse for Western Europe.

Remember Albanians, our worst mistake is the best you can ever hope for. You must hope for Serbia and Serbs to just forget about Kosovo and to grow fatigue at the issue. You must hope that the West will keep blindly supporting your welfare hellhole while they themselves are suffering. The point of this is you are not independent people, you depend on Serbia's weakness and the West's money to even be in the prison you are currently in.

Isn't that a shame? All the billions of handouts your people got and what do you have to show for it? Serbia (the part thats only occupied by Serbian puppets to the West) survived a bombing for 78 days, 3 wars and economic sanctions and Vojvodina and Central Srbija is still the most well developed and advanced parts of the country in every aspect of society. Kosovo by fact gets 100x more aid than the rest of Serbia so why is it that the infrastructure is next to nothing and the living standards mimic those of African countries that have been in turmoil for decades.

Why is your motherland Albania, who had no wars (didn't even help their brethren occupy Serbia) had no sanctions in such terrible shape today? If you compare Serbs side by side with Albanians it is 100% indisputable fact that Serbs are more advanced, more modern and will find a way to make it work despite everything that is being thrown at them. Its almost as if you Albanians love living in filth and poverty. And now you want to drag Serbia's ancient territory down with you to this hole.

If you Albanians love Kosovo so much why do you treat it like trash? Why is it so dirty in Kosovo? Do you love living in filth? What is it, I don't understand. Somehow I have a feeling that once Serbia performs a deep cleansing on the province from all the bad apples that just tarnish the very name "Kosovo" that it will finally reach its full potential as a prosperous region.

But prosperous and Albanian are not synonymous
(Ari Gold, 16 May 2011 20:41)

Wow must have hit a nerve there, First why would you say you people as its we are beneath you.

Kosovo is much better than it was under Serbia, Billions in Aid were given to repair what your brother Serbs did by burning homes and not investing anything from 1989 and pushing Albanians to live as second Citizens.

Kosovo is dirty, has huge unemployment and it has many other bad things but we love it here and we want to be left alone. I go offten to Serbia and I dont think outside Belgrade or Novi Sad Serbia is Developed trust me unemployment keeps growing and contrary what they publish Average Salary is 150Euros in most of Serbia outside those cities.

Go to Nis and you will see and Serbia has never been under occupation and not been treated as second class citizens.

Again you try to insult but it does not serve a point since it coming from someone bitter. You destroyed Yugoslavia and blame it on all others except Serbs how does that make seance? You live in impoverish country and you make fun of all your neighbors.

Development is not done for free it was to apease Serbs during Tito time wish we had same support Trepca radi Beograd se gradi :)

You need to learn you place in Balkans and for all Serbs that say we will wait 500 years to get Kosovo back good luck wish you all the best we will enjoy it next 500 years and lets talk then.

Just in 1998 no Serb ever thought they will be holding the short side of stick in Kosovo, you wanted all got nothing lets hope you get Autonomy in north and we will give u with pleasure but we will move there and build and we will be majority there as well so its lost cause.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Serbia can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! We albanians are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!
(demi, 16 May 2011 18:56)"

Let me rephrase your sentence for you with reference to North Kosovo!

Pristina can stand outside and bark all day long but will never get the bone! K-Serbs are inside and enjoying the bone!! Big difference!!!

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

@ "lowe"
Well who's going to stop them from returning to their homes then? You forget that this is not 1999 and serbs cannot do whatever they want to. Things are a little different now if you haven't noticed. Even the international community urges everyone (not only serbs)to return. The number of albanians that will return will be larger than that of the Serbian. So northern part won't be exclusively Serbian as you tried to make it. Dont worry, everything has its time ;)