George- Ivanovic is a Serb. The Albanians from Montenegro with the last name Ivanovic really have the last name Ivanaj. It was just changed when Montenegro began to rule the area where the Albanians lived.
Your whole arguement about how Albanians fought the Turks and Serbs didn't is completely invalid. The Albanians where the ones who gave-in to Turkish dominance after 70% of them converted to Islam and adopted Turkish names. Serbs on the other hand did not convert at all, maybe a handful here and there. The Serbs absolutely did not just fight in 1389, there was countless battles between the Turks and Serbs in the 17th,18th,and 19th centuries during the 1st and 2nd Serbian uprisings and the 2nd Balkan War. I can only think of one time the Albanians fought the Turks after Skanderbegs death, and it was 400 years later in 1911 on Mount Decic in Montenegro. Catholic Albanians from Montenegro, under the leadership of Dede Gjo Luli Dedvukaj, defeated the Turks in the Battle of Decic which took place right next to Podgorica. This was the first time the Albanians rose their flag after a victory in 400 years. Between the time of Skanderbegs death and 1911, there were no Albanian uprisings unlike the countless Serbian ones. The Albanians who did the uprising in 1911 werent even from Albania or Kosmet... they were from the Malesija region of Montenegro. So please dont try saying the Serbs never fought against the Turks and the Albanians were the Balkan heroes, because they werent. I know your history better than you know mine.
Ivanovic is a Kosovar minority leader who once worked in the Government of Kosovo as a minister (under PM Thaci) and now he resides in Serbia working under the Government of Serbia. George, Ivo speaks fluent Serbian and Albanian and currently holds the chief position in the Ministry of Kosovo (God only knows what this position is or does).
I have one personal question for the Serbs and Albanians here, is Oliver Ivanović a Serb or an Albanian who wants to be a Serb? The reason I am asking this is that all the Ivanovic’s I know here in the Detroit Area are Albanians from Montenegro and a flew from Kosovo.
Albanian wishfull thinking! How many times so far president Boris Tadić visited Kosovo! I guess by your twisted opinion he recognized that so called independence too! Albanians need to do a lot to bring Kosovo into civilization and then to talk seriously with Serbia. Kosovo is governed by war criminals. War criminals like Thaci are not people who should discuss with Serbian officials. And dear Albanians you should understand that inspite of your opinion Kosovo is not an independent state but it's full protectorate payed by money of European taxpayers. These negotiations are conveyed on a much lower level so cannot be claimed as official talks between "two states" because there are no two states here just one. These are just formal talks for Serbia to fulfill the questionnare for EU membership! Nothing more and most definitely these negotiations have nothing in common with recognizing illegal Kosovo independence by Serbia. Put minuses as much as you want but that won't change the facts! Sometimes I think that goal of Albanian posters here is to put as many minuses as they can in every comment that does not suits to their nationalism.
Keep dreaming. Not even the imperialist US government can rip Kosovo away from Serbia. This so called Declaration Of Independance...is exactly that "so called". Serbs were under Turkish rule for 500 years and eventually overcame the oppressive dominant rule which they were under. The US government is quickly crumbling. The US miscalculated the resolve of the Serbian people. They thought that Serbia would have given up on Kosovo by now by dangling EU membership as a carrot for Serbs to bite on. Sorry to say but that will never happen. By invading a soverign nation and breaking all forms of international law the US will quickly realize that Serbs will not be bought and will fight for Kosovo always. KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE!
(Bryan, 12 May 2011 15:15)
For your own knowledge serbs never lived under Ottoman turkish rule. Serbia at that time made deals and agreements with the ottoman so they got autonomy with full right to your own religion and rights under ottoman rule. You made deal with the ottomans so your life wasent so hard as you point out. The albanians on the other hand lived under turkish rule for 500 years and fought many many battles against the invaders when you can only count one battle in 1389. We albanians had hundred of such battles against the ottoman turks.
US will not vanish as you hope just like the arab countrys hope. We albanians made Kosovo independent with US help and getting rid of US will not make Kosovo serbian. Not without the approval of the albanian people living in Kosovo wich now has an goverment, police force and army. So keep dreaming as Russia dreams of occupying Europe. Your dreams are impossible!
Keep dreaming. Not even the imperialist US government can rip Kosovo away from Serbia. This so called Declaration Of Independance...is exactly that "so called". Serbs were under Turkish rule for 500 years and eventually overcame the oppressive dominant rule which they were under. The US government is quickly crumbling. The US miscalculated the resolve of the Serbian people. They thought that Serbia would have given up on Kosovo by now by dangling EU membership as a carrot for Serbs to bite on. Sorry to say but that will never happen. By invading a soverign nation and breaking all forms of international law the US will quickly realize that Serbs will not be bought and will fight for Kosovo always. KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE!
Intelligent move towards recogntiton of Kosovo by Serbia. Its getting clearer everyday and when EU demands the recognition Serbia will make it official.
We all know by now that Kosovo cannot and will not ''be Serbia''. We all know by now that is impossible as the albanian residents of Kosovo dosent and will never accept it. Who has the guts to force them ?
Keep dreaming. Not even the imperialist US government can rip Kosovo away from Serbia. This so called Declaration Of Independance...is exactly that "so called". Serbs were under Turkish rule for 500 years and eventually overcame the oppressive dominant rule which they were under. The US government is quickly crumbling. The US miscalculated the resolve of the Serbian people. They thought that Serbia would have given up on Kosovo by now by dangling EU membership as a carrot for Serbs to bite on. Sorry to say but that will never happen. By invading a soverign nation and breaking all forms of international law the US will quickly realize that Serbs will not be bought and will fight for Kosovo always. KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE!
Intelligent move towards recogntiton of Kosovo by Serbia. Its getting clearer everyday and when EU demands the recognition Serbia will make it official.
We all know by now that Kosovo cannot and will not ''be Serbia''. We all know by now that is impossible as the albanian residents of Kosovo dosent and will never accept it. Who has the guts to force them ?
Keep dreaming. Not even the imperialist US government can rip Kosovo away from Serbia. This so called Declaration Of Independance...is exactly that "so called". Serbs were under Turkish rule for 500 years and eventually overcame the oppressive dominant rule which they were under. The US government is quickly crumbling. The US miscalculated the resolve of the Serbian people. They thought that Serbia would have given up on Kosovo by now by dangling EU membership as a carrot for Serbs to bite on. Sorry to say but that will never happen. By invading a soverign nation and breaking all forms of international law the US will quickly realize that Serbs will not be bought and will fight for Kosovo always. KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE!
(Bryan, 12 May 2011 15:15)
For your own knowledge serbs never lived under Ottoman turkish rule. Serbia at that time made deals and agreements with the ottoman so they got autonomy with full right to your own religion and rights under ottoman rule. You made deal with the ottomans so your life wasent so hard as you point out. The albanians on the other hand lived under turkish rule for 500 years and fought many many battles against the invaders when you can only count one battle in 1389. We albanians had hundred of such battles against the ottoman turks.
US will not vanish as you hope just like the arab countrys hope. We albanians made Kosovo independent with US help and getting rid of US will not make Kosovo serbian. Not without the approval of the albanian people living in Kosovo wich now has an goverment, police force and army. So keep dreaming as Russia dreams of occupying Europe. Your dreams are impossible!
Albanian wishfull thinking! How many times so far president Boris Tadić visited Kosovo! I guess by your twisted opinion he recognized that so called independence too! Albanians need to do a lot to bring Kosovo into civilization and then to talk seriously with Serbia. Kosovo is governed by war criminals. War criminals like Thaci are not people who should discuss with Serbian officials. And dear Albanians you should understand that inspite of your opinion Kosovo is not an independent state but it's full protectorate payed by money of European taxpayers. These negotiations are conveyed on a much lower level so cannot be claimed as official talks between "two states" because there are no two states here just one. These are just formal talks for Serbia to fulfill the questionnare for EU membership! Nothing more and most definitely these negotiations have nothing in common with recognizing illegal Kosovo independence by Serbia. Put minuses as much as you want but that won't change the facts! Sometimes I think that goal of Albanian posters here is to put as many minuses as they can in every comment that does not suits to their nationalism.
Ivanovic is a Kosovar minority leader who once worked in the Government of Kosovo as a minister (under PM Thaci) and now he resides in Serbia working under the Government of Serbia. George, Ivo speaks fluent Serbian and Albanian and currently holds the chief position in the Ministry of Kosovo (God only knows what this position is or does).
I have one personal question for the Serbs and Albanians here, is Oliver Ivanović a Serb or an Albanian who wants to be a Serb? The reason I am asking this is that all the Ivanovic’s I know here in the Detroit Area are Albanians from Montenegro and a flew from Kosovo.
George- Ivanovic is a Serb. The Albanians from Montenegro with the last name Ivanovic really have the last name Ivanaj. It was just changed when Montenegro began to rule the area where the Albanians lived.
Your whole arguement about how Albanians fought the Turks and Serbs didn't is completely invalid. The Albanians where the ones who gave-in to Turkish dominance after 70% of them converted to Islam and adopted Turkish names. Serbs on the other hand did not convert at all, maybe a handful here and there. The Serbs absolutely did not just fight in 1389, there was countless battles between the Turks and Serbs in the 17th,18th,and 19th centuries during the 1st and 2nd Serbian uprisings and the 2nd Balkan War. I can only think of one time the Albanians fought the Turks after Skanderbegs death, and it was 400 years later in 1911 on Mount Decic in Montenegro. Catholic Albanians from Montenegro, under the leadership of Dede Gjo Luli Dedvukaj, defeated the Turks in the Battle of Decic which took place right next to Podgorica. This was the first time the Albanians rose their flag after a victory in 400 years. Between the time of Skanderbegs death and 1911, there were no Albanian uprisings unlike the countless Serbian ones. The Albanians who did the uprising in 1911 werent even from Albania or Kosmet... they were from the Malesija region of Montenegro. So please dont try saying the Serbs never fought against the Turks and the Albanians were the Balkan heroes, because they werent. I know your history better than you know mine.
Intelligent move towards recogntiton of Kosovo by Serbia. Its getting clearer everyday and when EU demands the recognition Serbia will make it official.
We all know by now that Kosovo cannot and will not ''be Serbia''. We all know by now that is impossible as the albanian residents of Kosovo dosent and will never accept it. Who has the guts to force them ?
Keep dreaming. Not even the imperialist US government can rip Kosovo away from Serbia. This so called Declaration Of Independance...is exactly that "so called". Serbs were under Turkish rule for 500 years and eventually overcame the oppressive dominant rule which they were under. The US government is quickly crumbling. The US miscalculated the resolve of the Serbian people. They thought that Serbia would have given up on Kosovo by now by dangling EU membership as a carrot for Serbs to bite on. Sorry to say but that will never happen. By invading a soverign nation and breaking all forms of international law the US will quickly realize that Serbs will not be bought and will fight for Kosovo always. KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE!
Keep dreaming. Not even the imperialist US government can rip Kosovo away from Serbia. This so called Declaration Of Independance...is exactly that "so called". Serbs were under Turkish rule for 500 years and eventually overcame the oppressive dominant rule which they were under. The US government is quickly crumbling. The US miscalculated the resolve of the Serbian people. They thought that Serbia would have given up on Kosovo by now by dangling EU membership as a carrot for Serbs to bite on. Sorry to say but that will never happen. By invading a soverign nation and breaking all forms of international law the US will quickly realize that Serbs will not be bought and will fight for Kosovo always. KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE!
(Bryan, 12 May 2011 15:15)
For your own knowledge serbs never lived under Ottoman turkish rule. Serbia at that time made deals and agreements with the ottoman so they got autonomy with full right to your own religion and rights under ottoman rule. You made deal with the ottomans so your life wasent so hard as you point out. The albanians on the other hand lived under turkish rule for 500 years and fought many many battles against the invaders when you can only count one battle in 1389. We albanians had hundred of such battles against the ottoman turks.
US will not vanish as you hope just like the arab countrys hope. We albanians made Kosovo independent with US help and getting rid of US will not make Kosovo serbian. Not without the approval of the albanian people living in Kosovo wich now has an goverment, police force and army. So keep dreaming as Russia dreams of occupying Europe. Your dreams are impossible!
Albanian wishfull thinking! How many times so far president Boris Tadić visited Kosovo! I guess by your twisted opinion he recognized that so called independence too! Albanians need to do a lot to bring Kosovo into civilization and then to talk seriously with Serbia. Kosovo is governed by war criminals. War criminals like Thaci are not people who should discuss with Serbian officials. And dear Albanians you should understand that inspite of your opinion Kosovo is not an independent state but it's full protectorate payed by money of European taxpayers. These negotiations are conveyed on a much lower level so cannot be claimed as official talks between "two states" because there are no two states here just one. These are just formal talks for Serbia to fulfill the questionnare for EU membership! Nothing more and most definitely these negotiations have nothing in common with recognizing illegal Kosovo independence by Serbia. Put minuses as much as you want but that won't change the facts! Sometimes I think that goal of Albanian posters here is to put as many minuses as they can in every comment that does not suits to their nationalism.
I have one personal question for the Serbs and Albanians here, is Oliver Ivanović a Serb or an Albanian who wants to be a Serb? The reason I am asking this is that all the Ivanovic’s I know here in the Detroit Area are Albanians from Montenegro and a flew from Kosovo.
Ivanovic is a Kosovar minority leader who once worked in the Government of Kosovo as a minister (under PM Thaci) and now he resides in Serbia working under the Government of Serbia. George, Ivo speaks fluent Serbian and Albanian and currently holds the chief position in the Ministry of Kosovo (God only knows what this position is or does).
George- Ivanovic is a Serb. The Albanians from Montenegro with the last name Ivanovic really have the last name Ivanaj. It was just changed when Montenegro began to rule the area where the Albanians lived.
Your whole arguement about how Albanians fought the Turks and Serbs didn't is completely invalid. The Albanians where the ones who gave-in to Turkish dominance after 70% of them converted to Islam and adopted Turkish names. Serbs on the other hand did not convert at all, maybe a handful here and there. The Serbs absolutely did not just fight in 1389, there was countless battles between the Turks and Serbs in the 17th,18th,and 19th centuries during the 1st and 2nd Serbian uprisings and the 2nd Balkan War. I can only think of one time the Albanians fought the Turks after Skanderbegs death, and it was 400 years later in 1911 on Mount Decic in Montenegro. Catholic Albanians from Montenegro, under the leadership of Dede Gjo Luli Dedvukaj, defeated the Turks in the Battle of Decic which took place right next to Podgorica. This was the first time the Albanians rose their flag after a victory in 400 years. Between the time of Skanderbegs death and 1911, there were no Albanian uprisings unlike the countless Serbian ones. The Albanians who did the uprising in 1911 werent even from Albania or Kosmet... they were from the Malesija region of Montenegro. So please dont try saying the Serbs never fought against the Turks and the Albanians were the Balkan heroes, because they werent. I know your history better than you know mine.
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