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Wednesday, 11.05.2011.

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FM talks Kosovo probe at UN conference

FM Vuk Jeremić said in Istanbul on Tuesday that the allegations about human organ trafficking in Kosovo must be checked in an independent investigation.

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Denis

pre 12 godina

We protected your monasteries and churches for centuries. Not one has been attacked by Albanians in history until last decade. In fact Albanians were often the ones who protected them, until they became the spiritual sourse serb ultra nationalism, of sufferings and repression of Serbia against Albanian population. What did your church do in the wake of mass suffering, murder and expulsion you executed in the 90s? Your church is just a facade, so you could hide your real mass grave digging speciality, and present yourself to the world as "civilized" christians, but civilization was the last thing you and your church had in mind, and did. Please save us your cries.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

The recent incident when the Serb Orthodox Church of the Lady of Ljeviš in Prizren was vandalized points to the critical role the Council of Europe could have in preserving Serbian heritage, the minister underlined.


This has been proven to be a lie told by the Phantom Minister like two months ago. Since you clowns all of a sudden care about "heritage" why don't you return (as guided by international protocol) Kosovo's artifacts which you stole when you ran like little animals across the border in 1999?

bg = full of clowns


Thanks,

ben

pre 12 godina

The problem with you Serbs is that you are absolutely disloyal.

I am bit familiar with the judiciary system of Italy but more or less all democratic countries work in same way. Let me educate you.

1. To start an investigation one needs at least some proof/s that a crime has happened. (this job is done by investigators he decides if the crime is serious to be investigated or not);
2. These proof/s are then brought to “Procura” which establishes if the facts are strong enough to start an official investigation; if YES we go to point 3; if NO there is no case;
3. If the “Procura” believes that the proofs are strong enough they start with an official investigation;
4. After collecting further evidence “Procura” sends these proofs to the “giudice di indagini preliminary (GIP)” whos job is to assess if the proofs that “Procura” has brought are sufficiently strong enough to face a trial or not; If GIP is not convinced case closed or gives to “Procura” more time to do a better job; if GIP finds the evidences strong enough then he decides to send the case to
5. The trial (first grade); If the citizen is found not guilty the citizen is free- If he is found guilty he has a right to appeal the verdict to;
6. Giudice di Appello (second grade); if the citizen is found not guilty he is free - if the citizen is found guilty he has the right to appeal the verdict to;
7. Cssazione (third grade) ; if the offender is again found guilty he cannot appeal anymore.

Dick Marty is in point 1.

EULEX is asking from Marty to provide them with the evidences that he claims to have – EULEX is in point 2.

Now as you see there are at least 7 stages for one to be found guilty. It is not that democracies like to spend money and finance an expensive judiciary but they do that for one and only one reason: to reduce the likelihood that an innocent man is sent in jail and that all rights of a fair trial are guaranteed.

As you know very well in this story of organ fiction we are in point 1. But your disloyal politicians behave as we are in point 7. They speak and want to internationalise a story that is still in point 1 and is going through assessment as accomplished fact of point 7.

Your politicians know these 7 points very well (I am not sure for Jovan or CG or sj or any other Serbian turbo-folk-radical) but that your politicians know these things very well no one can doubt. Why they shout so illogically?? Because their goal is PROPAGANDA not the truth!

Do you need any further elucidation???

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now presumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happened to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?
@Principa,Gracanica

I thought they were 500, but thanks fron reducing the number to 350. Who knows, another 6 months the number will come down to Zilch.

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler, more like self-entangled

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigation so as to establish responsibility and thus justice – the fact that a crime of any kind happened seems little reason for an investigation in your way of thinking – probably explains why the EULEX is south of the Ibar!

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now presumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happened to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the events for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French influence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler,

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now pressumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happend to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitnness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the evenets for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French infulence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigatio

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler,

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now pressumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happend to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitnness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the evenets for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French infulence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigatio

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

the untangler

pre 12 godina

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija, 11 May 2011 11:20)
FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts".

highduke

pre 12 godina

My advice to Albanian negotiators is to re-integrate & transform into responsible provincial politicians or face the Hague. ITS OVAH!

PEN

pre 12 godina

No 'Dodo'sour, the Serbs are known for fighting their own battles not relying on others to bale them out. Win or lose, they fight on their own for what they believe in. And when it comes to genocide, the Albanians and Croats etc know where their friends are namely; Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Jihadi psychopaths, mercenaries, thrill seekers, oh yes did I forget something? that's right and NATO airpower. Come on be honest with yourselves for once. On your own you're nothing.

DODOSOUR

pre 12 godina

Mr Wolf is still feeding on his own compliments. What a surprise.
And i absolutely love his "most of the world" is with us gibberish, the last colon to lean on, as all the "moral, historical and facts on the ground" have way surpassed reality.

Kosovo is perfect in the region, it is only Serbia that is behaving like a female dog on heat to get attention.
As you know Wolf, Kosovos other neighbors dont have problems with it, but only Romania respects your delusions in the region the everybody knows Serbia. You can keep lying your teeth out to the poor undeveloped countries of your Serb propaganda, I am sure they will feed on that and solve problems. I mean dumping genocide on others doorstep is waht Serbs are good right?

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Tung & aptly named creative reality,

there are over 350 missing innocent civilians & vicitims (of whom it has never been denied by Kalbanian mafiocracy and clearly blind eye at least or complete complicity of ALBANIAN government & NATO) that eneded up in a foreign country (ALBANIA) in an apparent "prisoner of war" camp (i.e.torture camp) who never returned alive - that is FACT!

That in itself is a WAR CRIME irrespective of the exact horrendous and evil things the Albanians have done to these civilians now pressumed killed (onus is thus on KAlbanians & Albanian govt/NATO to show otherwise). This WAR CRIME must be fully & independently investigated i.e. perpertrators and conspirators must be brought to justice. It can no longer be ignored or brushed under the carpet and Ban Ki Moon & UN has no choice but accept this.

Ban Ki Moon has promised full support by the UN but rightly reminded "if there is..." - only the US/UK/France can block/VETO this full investigation of the FACT a WAR CRIME occurred to apprehend all those involved - to block such a clear cut WAR CRIME investigation would show duplicitnous and immediatly point the finger at complicitness and cover up - its their choice but a WAR CRIME has occcurred there is no denying.

Western Governments (Muppets) can't ignore the FACT that thier choosen purveyors of western values, justice and democracy & foot soldiers (terrosist mobsters KLA) of a humanitarian war committed the most horrendous WAR CRIME!

Can the US/UK/France really block justice over this WAR CRIME ?

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

Here he is again. Always with his superlatives:

• Good relations
• Traditionally good relations
• Longstanding policy
• Strong basis for comprehensive cooperation
• Deepen

In one short article (and previous ones) he always exagerate which makes him funny, weird but above all unbeleivable.

This person needs to talk to a shrink as he must be very insure about himself (and Serbia).

Tung

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Why is this affairs so insignificant? From Western point of view this all affair is far from any truth. Rational individuals would argue that even Dick Marty forgot his about to proceed further with 'alleged' lies, whereas his paymaster Jeremic reminds that business is not yet for rubbish bin.

DODOSOUR

pre 12 godina

Mr Wolf is still feeding on his own compliments. What a surprise.
And i absolutely love his "most of the world" is with us gibberish, the last colon to lean on, as all the "moral, historical and facts on the ground" have way surpassed reality.

Kosovo is perfect in the region, it is only Serbia that is behaving like a female dog on heat to get attention.
As you know Wolf, Kosovos other neighbors dont have problems with it, but only Romania respects your delusions in the region the everybody knows Serbia. You can keep lying your teeth out to the poor undeveloped countries of your Serb propaganda, I am sure they will feed on that and solve problems. I mean dumping genocide on others doorstep is waht Serbs are good right?

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Tung & aptly named creative reality,

there are over 350 missing innocent civilians & vicitims (of whom it has never been denied by Kalbanian mafiocracy and clearly blind eye at least or complete complicity of ALBANIAN government & NATO) that eneded up in a foreign country (ALBANIA) in an apparent "prisoner of war" camp (i.e.torture camp) who never returned alive - that is FACT!

That in itself is a WAR CRIME irrespective of the exact horrendous and evil things the Albanians have done to these civilians now pressumed killed (onus is thus on KAlbanians & Albanian govt/NATO to show otherwise). This WAR CRIME must be fully & independently investigated i.e. perpertrators and conspirators must be brought to justice. It can no longer be ignored or brushed under the carpet and Ban Ki Moon & UN has no choice but accept this.

Ban Ki Moon has promised full support by the UN but rightly reminded "if there is..." - only the US/UK/France can block/VETO this full investigation of the FACT a WAR CRIME occurred to apprehend all those involved - to block such a clear cut WAR CRIME investigation would show duplicitnous and immediatly point the finger at complicitness and cover up - its their choice but a WAR CRIME has occcurred there is no denying.

Western Governments (Muppets) can't ignore the FACT that thier choosen purveyors of western values, justice and democracy & foot soldiers (terrosist mobsters KLA) of a humanitarian war committed the most horrendous WAR CRIME!

Can the US/UK/France really block justice over this WAR CRIME ?

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

PEN

pre 12 godina

No 'Dodo'sour, the Serbs are known for fighting their own battles not relying on others to bale them out. Win or lose, they fight on their own for what they believe in. And when it comes to genocide, the Albanians and Croats etc know where their friends are namely; Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Jihadi psychopaths, mercenaries, thrill seekers, oh yes did I forget something? that's right and NATO airpower. Come on be honest with yourselves for once. On your own you're nothing.

highduke

pre 12 godina

My advice to Albanian negotiators is to re-integrate & transform into responsible provincial politicians or face the Hague. ITS OVAH!

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

Here he is again. Always with his superlatives:

• Good relations
• Traditionally good relations
• Longstanding policy
• Strong basis for comprehensive cooperation
• Deepen

In one short article (and previous ones) he always exagerate which makes him funny, weird but above all unbeleivable.

This person needs to talk to a shrink as he must be very insure about himself (and Serbia).

Tung

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Why is this affairs so insignificant? From Western point of view this all affair is far from any truth. Rational individuals would argue that even Dick Marty forgot his about to proceed further with 'alleged' lies, whereas his paymaster Jeremic reminds that business is not yet for rubbish bin.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now presumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happened to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?
@Principa,Gracanica

I thought they were 500, but thanks fron reducing the number to 350. Who knows, another 6 months the number will come down to Zilch.

ben

pre 12 godina

The problem with you Serbs is that you are absolutely disloyal.

I am bit familiar with the judiciary system of Italy but more or less all democratic countries work in same way. Let me educate you.

1. To start an investigation one needs at least some proof/s that a crime has happened. (this job is done by investigators he decides if the crime is serious to be investigated or not);
2. These proof/s are then brought to “Procura” which establishes if the facts are strong enough to start an official investigation; if YES we go to point 3; if NO there is no case;
3. If the “Procura” believes that the proofs are strong enough they start with an official investigation;
4. After collecting further evidence “Procura” sends these proofs to the “giudice di indagini preliminary (GIP)” whos job is to assess if the proofs that “Procura” has brought are sufficiently strong enough to face a trial or not; If GIP is not convinced case closed or gives to “Procura” more time to do a better job; if GIP finds the evidences strong enough then he decides to send the case to
5. The trial (first grade); If the citizen is found not guilty the citizen is free- If he is found guilty he has a right to appeal the verdict to;
6. Giudice di Appello (second grade); if the citizen is found not guilty he is free - if the citizen is found guilty he has the right to appeal the verdict to;
7. Cssazione (third grade) ; if the offender is again found guilty he cannot appeal anymore.

Dick Marty is in point 1.

EULEX is asking from Marty to provide them with the evidences that he claims to have – EULEX is in point 2.

Now as you see there are at least 7 stages for one to be found guilty. It is not that democracies like to spend money and finance an expensive judiciary but they do that for one and only one reason: to reduce the likelihood that an innocent man is sent in jail and that all rights of a fair trial are guaranteed.

As you know very well in this story of organ fiction we are in point 1. But your disloyal politicians behave as we are in point 7. They speak and want to internationalise a story that is still in point 1 and is going through assessment as accomplished fact of point 7.

Your politicians know these 7 points very well (I am not sure for Jovan or CG or sj or any other Serbian turbo-folk-radical) but that your politicians know these things very well no one can doubt. Why they shout so illogically?? Because their goal is PROPAGANDA not the truth!

Do you need any further elucidation???

the untangler

pre 12 godina

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija, 11 May 2011 11:20)
FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts".

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler, more like self-entangled

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigation so as to establish responsibility and thus justice – the fact that a crime of any kind happened seems little reason for an investigation in your way of thinking – probably explains why the EULEX is south of the Ibar!

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now presumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happened to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the events for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French influence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

KOSO

pre 12 godina

The recent incident when the Serb Orthodox Church of the Lady of Ljeviš in Prizren was vandalized points to the critical role the Council of Europe could have in preserving Serbian heritage, the minister underlined.


This has been proven to be a lie told by the Phantom Minister like two months ago. Since you clowns all of a sudden care about "heritage" why don't you return (as guided by international protocol) Kosovo's artifacts which you stole when you ran like little animals across the border in 1999?

bg = full of clowns


Thanks,

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler,

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now pressumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happend to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitnness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the evenets for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French infulence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigatio

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler,

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now pressumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happend to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitnness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the evenets for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French infulence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigatio

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

Denis

pre 12 godina

We protected your monasteries and churches for centuries. Not one has been attacked by Albanians in history until last decade. In fact Albanians were often the ones who protected them, until they became the spiritual sourse serb ultra nationalism, of sufferings and repression of Serbia against Albanian population. What did your church do in the wake of mass suffering, murder and expulsion you executed in the 90s? Your church is just a facade, so you could hide your real mass grave digging speciality, and present yourself to the world as "civilized" christians, but civilization was the last thing you and your church had in mind, and did. Please save us your cries.

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Tung & aptly named creative reality,

there are over 350 missing innocent civilians & vicitims (of whom it has never been denied by Kalbanian mafiocracy and clearly blind eye at least or complete complicity of ALBANIAN government & NATO) that eneded up in a foreign country (ALBANIA) in an apparent "prisoner of war" camp (i.e.torture camp) who never returned alive - that is FACT!

That in itself is a WAR CRIME irrespective of the exact horrendous and evil things the Albanians have done to these civilians now pressumed killed (onus is thus on KAlbanians & Albanian govt/NATO to show otherwise). This WAR CRIME must be fully & independently investigated i.e. perpertrators and conspirators must be brought to justice. It can no longer be ignored or brushed under the carpet and Ban Ki Moon & UN has no choice but accept this.

Ban Ki Moon has promised full support by the UN but rightly reminded "if there is..." - only the US/UK/France can block/VETO this full investigation of the FACT a WAR CRIME occurred to apprehend all those involved - to block such a clear cut WAR CRIME investigation would show duplicitnous and immediatly point the finger at complicitness and cover up - its their choice but a WAR CRIME has occcurred there is no denying.

Western Governments (Muppets) can't ignore the FACT that thier choosen purveyors of western values, justice and democracy & foot soldiers (terrosist mobsters KLA) of a humanitarian war committed the most horrendous WAR CRIME!

Can the US/UK/France really block justice over this WAR CRIME ?

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

FREEDOM

pre 12 godina

Here he is again. Always with his superlatives:

• Good relations
• Traditionally good relations
• Longstanding policy
• Strong basis for comprehensive cooperation
• Deepen

In one short article (and previous ones) he always exagerate which makes him funny, weird but above all unbeleivable.

This person needs to talk to a shrink as he must be very insure about himself (and Serbia).

Tung

DODOSOUR

pre 12 godina

Mr Wolf is still feeding on his own compliments. What a surprise.
And i absolutely love his "most of the world" is with us gibberish, the last colon to lean on, as all the "moral, historical and facts on the ground" have way surpassed reality.

Kosovo is perfect in the region, it is only Serbia that is behaving like a female dog on heat to get attention.
As you know Wolf, Kosovos other neighbors dont have problems with it, but only Romania respects your delusions in the region the everybody knows Serbia. You can keep lying your teeth out to the poor undeveloped countries of your Serb propaganda, I am sure they will feed on that and solve problems. I mean dumping genocide on others doorstep is waht Serbs are good right?

Creative Rationality

pre 12 godina

Why is this affairs so insignificant? From Western point of view this all affair is far from any truth. Rational individuals would argue that even Dick Marty forgot his about to proceed further with 'alleged' lies, whereas his paymaster Jeremic reminds that business is not yet for rubbish bin.

PEN

pre 12 godina

No 'Dodo'sour, the Serbs are known for fighting their own battles not relying on others to bale them out. Win or lose, they fight on their own for what they believe in. And when it comes to genocide, the Albanians and Croats etc know where their friends are namely; Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Jihadi psychopaths, mercenaries, thrill seekers, oh yes did I forget something? that's right and NATO airpower. Come on be honest with yourselves for once. On your own you're nothing.

highduke

pre 12 godina

My advice to Albanian negotiators is to re-integrate & transform into responsible provincial politicians or face the Hague. ITS OVAH!

the untangler

pre 12 godina

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija, 11 May 2011 11:20)
FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts".

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler,

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now pressumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happend to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitnness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the evenets for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French infulence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigatio

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler, more like self-entangled

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigation so as to establish responsibility and thus justice – the fact that a crime of any kind happened seems little reason for an investigation in your way of thinking – probably explains why the EULEX is south of the Ibar!

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now presumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happened to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the events for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French influence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

ben

pre 12 godina

The problem with you Serbs is that you are absolutely disloyal.

I am bit familiar with the judiciary system of Italy but more or less all democratic countries work in same way. Let me educate you.

1. To start an investigation one needs at least some proof/s that a crime has happened. (this job is done by investigators he decides if the crime is serious to be investigated or not);
2. These proof/s are then brought to “Procura” which establishes if the facts are strong enough to start an official investigation; if YES we go to point 3; if NO there is no case;
3. If the “Procura” believes that the proofs are strong enough they start with an official investigation;
4. After collecting further evidence “Procura” sends these proofs to the “giudice di indagini preliminary (GIP)” whos job is to assess if the proofs that “Procura” has brought are sufficiently strong enough to face a trial or not; If GIP is not convinced case closed or gives to “Procura” more time to do a better job; if GIP finds the evidences strong enough then he decides to send the case to
5. The trial (first grade); If the citizen is found not guilty the citizen is free- If he is found guilty he has a right to appeal the verdict to;
6. Giudice di Appello (second grade); if the citizen is found not guilty he is free - if the citizen is found guilty he has the right to appeal the verdict to;
7. Cssazione (third grade) ; if the offender is again found guilty he cannot appeal anymore.

Dick Marty is in point 1.

EULEX is asking from Marty to provide them with the evidences that he claims to have – EULEX is in point 2.

Now as you see there are at least 7 stages for one to be found guilty. It is not that democracies like to spend money and finance an expensive judiciary but they do that for one and only one reason: to reduce the likelihood that an innocent man is sent in jail and that all rights of a fair trial are guaranteed.

As you know very well in this story of organ fiction we are in point 1. But your disloyal politicians behave as we are in point 7. They speak and want to internationalise a story that is still in point 1 and is going through assessment as accomplished fact of point 7.

Your politicians know these 7 points very well (I am not sure for Jovan or CG or sj or any other Serbian turbo-folk-radical) but that your politicians know these things very well no one can doubt. Why they shout so illogically?? Because their goal is PROPAGANDA not the truth!

Do you need any further elucidation???

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

Untangler,

"FACTS rarely have to be investigated, as they have already been proven. Maybe your hopes seem real but they are not supported by actual "facts"."

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now pressumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happend to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?

Not even the KLA mafiocracy deny this in FACT happened!

What this investigation (which will now happen UNless US/UK/France veto) will determine is who and to what extent of responsibility for such WAR CRIMES. Also it will conclusively establish what exactly did happen to these innocent victims. The investigation will preferably include a full account as to how & why Albania & NATO allowed this to occur - was there complicitnness? Moreover, to what extent they have attempted to cover up this WAR CRIME since they have full intelligence reports of the evenets for years now - hence why the EU (given UK & French infulence) is not so independent given that they may implicate themselves for this WAR CRIME!

This WAR CRIME is a FACT but the full events need to be established and all those conspirators and complicit in this WAR CRIME thus needs this full & independent investigation.

What your suggesting is that no crime ever go investigatio

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

KOSO

pre 12 godina

The recent incident when the Serb Orthodox Church of the Lady of Ljeviš in Prizren was vandalized points to the critical role the Council of Europe could have in preserving Serbian heritage, the minister underlined.


This has been proven to be a lie told by the Phantom Minister like two months ago. Since you clowns all of a sudden care about "heritage" why don't you return (as guided by international protocol) Kosovo's artifacts which you stole when you ran like little animals across the border in 1999?

bg = full of clowns


Thanks,

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

- are you in denial of the FACT that 350+ innocent citizens of Serbia (of all ethnicity) were unlawfully abducted and kept in camps in a foreign country (Albania) - these 350+ are now presumed dead & irrespective of what evil things may have happened to their organs or not this is a clear FACT of WAR CRIME ?
@Principa,Gracanica

I thought they were 500, but thanks fron reducing the number to 350. Who knows, another 6 months the number will come down to Zilch.

Denis

pre 12 godina

We protected your monasteries and churches for centuries. Not one has been attacked by Albanians in history until last decade. In fact Albanians were often the ones who protected them, until they became the spiritual sourse serb ultra nationalism, of sufferings and repression of Serbia against Albanian population. What did your church do in the wake of mass suffering, murder and expulsion you executed in the 90s? Your church is just a facade, so you could hide your real mass grave digging speciality, and present yourself to the world as "civilized" christians, but civilization was the last thing you and your church had in mind, and did. Please save us your cries.