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Sunday, 01.05.2011.

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Reports: Gaddafi's son, 3 grandchildren killed

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has survived a NATO bombing attack this morning in Tripoli, but one of his sons and three grandchildren were killed.

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sj

pre 13 godina

(Ian, UK, 2 May 2011 11:52)


Third party sources, what about the evidence where some of the bombs have landed in Tripoli – they are now in that phase of terrorising the population. They did the same to Serbia in 1999 – do you think you have smart military leadership on board? No what you have is crawlers who have joined political parties and have reached high levels through patronage. It called incompetence incorporated. Let me put it this way if any of these people had real jobs they would be dismissed within two to three months. I’ve met some of your geniuses and they are very unimpressive.

Once again Gaddafi is no fool nor is he mad but playing the west like a classical violinists. In the end your people will have to send in ground forces and that’s when the fire works will start.

Bin Laden has achieved what he wanted and that’s martyr status thanks to the US. This was a no win situation for the west. Osama always said he would never give himself up and regardless of when he died he has achieved his goal.

Now to your country’s finances, unfortunately the British people are not being told the truth, but as I said before you’ll feel it sooner rather than later. Remember that flying those military aircraft costs money and even more dropping bombs and that’s all on redit.

Mean anything to you

pre 13 godina

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.
(The White Hats Rule, 2 May 2011 04:16)

Is that why the White Hats joined up with Hitler in WW2 because he was winning at the time and promised many freebies.What about with the Ottomans,same sycophant philosophy???
When you wrote "everybody" you were only thinking of Albanians,correct?
Because I personally never met any other people in my life that reason like some Albanians that I've read here on B92.
By your reasoning if the US went to war against Russia, and you saw Russians were going to win,you would switch sides "to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated "you" were made to feel by the victor".
Can anyone count on your friendship and loyalty to invest in you?

United we stand united we fall!!!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

(sj, 2 May 2011 05:28)

Gaddafi's son and grandchildren were in Bab al-Azizia military command centre when they were apparently killed.

Have you got a reliable third party source to back up your claims that NATO have been bombing civilian targets? Or are you going to believe Brother Gaddafi, the same man who claims that he people love him and that those who are against him are on drugs or have been brainwashed by Al Qaeda. The same man who says that Libya is an Arab nation at Arab League conferences but then he says Libya is an African nation at African Union conferences and that he hates Arabs. He has made many outrageous statements, surely you can't believe him?

Also I don't believe that the US have killed Bin Laden, it is a load of rubbish to help Obama win his election. Bin laden is long dead!

Also have you got a reliable third party source to back up your claim that Al Qaeda is among the ranks of the Libyan rebels?

Also I wouldn't worry about the money the UK is spending right now, we're just spending our military budget. Also debts aren't a problem if you know how to manage them, which the UK is good at doing and has a lot of experience of. You can be in debt and make money and that's what the UK is doing as our economy is slowly on the rise again. A bit like paying a mortgage, our debts are controlled.

sj

pre 13 godina

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.
(The White Hats Rule, 2 May 2011 04:16)

Twelve years later and Serbia is not a member of NATO and never will become one – it’s not in Russia’s interests; joining the EU is fine as they already control Germany and the rest will follow very soon.
You would shout from the roof tops if your people were half as courageous as Serbs to stand up against the entire world. You see Serbs have backbone unlike their neighbors who are profoundly cowards and will only take action when the victim’s hands are tied behind their backs, much like the Albanians and Croats.

sj

pre 13 godina

Ian, UK

I have no idea where Gaddafi's son was at the time of the strike, but as usual they hit the wrong target. The son was not the target but his father was.

Yes the west has started to hit civilian objects but calling them “military” because they have to ramp it up. The Colonel will not give in so they have become more and more desperate as their military advisers are wrong once again (surprise, surprise). In the coming weeks you’ll see bridges and other infrastructure bombed. It seems that if they can’t get rid of Gaddafi they will “send him back to the stone age”. Does that sound familiar? They used the same words in 1999.

The US just announced the death of Bin Laden and by God will we have to listen to all that clap trap and US BS on their superior forces tracking him down. Only one analyst provided the right answer when asked the question “will it make any difference? No he said. ‘Bin laden was a sick man on his death bed for months now”.

On a brighter note Al Qaida is already in the ranks of the rebels and watch the show from there. I would be very worried about the money the Uk is spending right now – its in overdrive and its all borrowed. Down the track you feel it in a big way.

The White Hats Rule

pre 13 godina

NATO was targeting Gaddafi when they sent in that missile – they were not after his son or grandchildren. The simple fact is more western incompetence and their less than accurate intelligence and even less superior weaponry.
The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives – simple stuff of terrorizing the populace, much like when NATO was unsuccessful in their bombardment in Kosovo they then went to target infrastructure in Belgrade. A useless and tired military leadership controls NATO and US forces. This is not going to succeed in Libya and after 4 weeks of bombing what has happened – NOTHING.
So as two, three and four months go by then ground troops will have to be sent it and watch the body bags coming back as Al Qaida joins the festivities.
For you guys in the UK, it’s going to be a repeat of Iraq and after that happens you government will be cutting expenditure for the next 50 years.
(sj, 1 May 2011 16:42)

sj,

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"As for your constant moaning about Serbs(you seem to be obsessed with us),
look,you are an Hungarian ultranationalist that dreams of Greater Hungry,but your kissing of America`s a** and badmouthing of Serbs,Romanians and other people won`t bring you back Vojvodina and Transylvania since they themselves (US,UK) created Trianon"
CG

I explained that I am as much a Hungarian ultranationalist as you are but I don't see my comment. Why would such a comment be censured?

Rote

pre 13 godina

NATO mother lovers will regret for this murder. Step by step they turned me for Qaddafi’s strong supporter. This man has balls and nothing but death can make him to retreat. He will avenge the 4 young men with his own blood inside. I am sure he was present at the funerals. More planes will come down in what they call the “civilized world”. When in 1986 the mother lovers killed his daughter in law it was quite different.

In the East sons and grandsons cost much more. Out of 6 sons this one was a student and less involved and he just came from Munich to stand by his family. Poor Ben Ghazi people today celebrate the murder of the children. On December 7 in 1941 the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were same joyful when the Japanese planes landed here after Perl Harbor … Well ,well , well

Roger7

pre 13 godina

As expected so predictable, Joe's generalizations of all Serbs ... as boring as ever. Thank goodness, all immigrants are not all like Joe.

Reaction Shmrnaction

pre 13 godina

Exactly. What do you think the reaction will be if London, Paris or Washington was the target of a nuclear bomb?
(Jan Andersen (DK), 1 May 2011 19:37)

The rich will get iodine and emergency attention before the poor,and than the poor will get super angry and start riots and looting and come after the rich that have the iodine and maybe take their eyes out for hording,or something like that. Oh yeah, than your government will play God and get some revenge--lots of good that's gonna do for tourism.Right?

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

"The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives"
(sj, 1 May 2011 16:42)

So let me get this straight, you believe that Gaddafi's 6 square kilometre compound of Bab al-Azizia in southern Tripoli, where Gaddafi's son and grandchildren were apparently killed was a 'civilian target'? You do realise that Bab al-Azizia is a major barracks, a major military base and the main military command centre of Libya. How can Bab al-Azizia be even considered a 'civilian target' as you claim? If Gaddafi decides to keep his family in a military base during a civil war then that is his own stupid fault if they get killed and that is if they're actually dead.

------------------------

In my opinion it is only a question WHEN,not IF a Western city like New York,London,Paris,Tel Aviv or others will be annihilated by a detonation of a smuggled in nuclear bomb...
Remember,Muslims already have nukes in Pakistan which is a very unstable country and home of Al Qaeda...
Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction...
(CG, 1 May 2011 18:44)

Why would Muslims want to set off a nuclear bomb in London or Paris? They'd be killing their fellow Muslims.


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Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi. What a cheap-shot by the puppets of the House of Saud. Keep fighting brother and may your tears inspire you to victory!
(highduke, 1 May 2011 15:07)

Highduke, is this your latest conspiracy theory? You can't actually believe that all NATO member states are puppets of the House of Saud. That is a ridiculous statement to make.

CG

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 1 May 2011 19:35)

As for your constant moaning about Serbs(you seem to be obsessed with us),
look,you are an Hungarian ultranationalist that dreams of Greater Hungry,but your kissing of America`s a** and badmouthing of Serbs,Romanians and other people won`t bring you back Vojvodina and Transylvania since they themselves (US,UK) created Trianon...

Second,as for Gaddafi,again,I do not support him like the vast majority of Serbs does not,they are muslims,we don`t care about whether they live or not,I am just saying in what consequences these actions in my opinion most consequently will result!

Joe

pre 13 godina

"I heard that Serbs are really sad about the death of Gaddafi's son."

Very sad indead. You can also see it in their comments. Wait until Gaddafi himself get killed.

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 13 godina

CG wrote: "Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction..."

Exactly. What do you think the reaction will be if London, Paris or Washington was the target of a nuclear bomb?

CG

pre 13 godina

In my opinion it is only a question WHEN,not IF a Western city like New York,London,Paris,Tel Aviv or others will be annihilated by a detonation of a smuggled in nuclear bomb...
Remember,Muslims already have nukes in Pakistan which is a very unstable country and home of Al Qaeda...
Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction...

ivan

pre 13 godina

I heard that Serbs are really sad about the death of Gaddafi's son. They feel bad about the son of an Arab dictator but not about their Bosniak brethren. I guess Serbs will always be Serbs.

Joe

pre 13 godina

Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi.
highduke

As expected all Serbs are in deep sorrow because an other brother of them got killed (what still could turn out as a fake story).
On the other side as a Lybian rebel put it "By God we're not supposed to rejoice anyone's death but we want him to feel the pain and sorrow that we're going though with our own people he killed".

sj

pre 13 godina

NATO was targeting Gaddafi when they sent in that missile – they were not after his son or grandchildren. The simple fact is more western incompetence and their less than accurate intelligence and even less superior weaponry.
The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives – simple stuff of terrorizing the populace, much like when NATO was unsuccessful in their bombardment in Kosovo they then went to target infrastructure in Belgrade. A useless and tired military leadership controls NATO and US forces. This is not going to succeed in Libya and after 4 weeks of bombing what has happened – NOTHING.
So as two, three and four months go by then ground troops will have to be sent it and watch the body bags coming back as Al Qaida joins the festivities.
For you guys in the UK, it’s going to be a repeat of Iraq and after that happens you government will be cutting expenditure for the next 50 years.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi. What a cheap-shot by the puppets of the House of Saud. Keep fighting brother and may your tears inspire you to victory!

lowe

pre 13 godina

Nothing new here. The Yankees and Nato have killed children before in Afghanistan -- they called it collateral damage. And the human rights organizations in the West are silent as a sphinx.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

The 29-year-old Saif al-Arab was a student in Germany and a civilian.

B92

The youngest of the children killed was 6 years old, why are you not mentioning that?

But then again the children of so-called militants killed by US drones in Pakistan and Afghanistan, or by Israel in Gaza, are never mentioned.Underneath the glamour of christian compassion and liberal humanitarianism, lies the will to kill anybody in the name of of the four horsemen and the black stuff. So much for western civilisation.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

There are thousands of sons and grandchildren's that he has killed so he is just having his own medicine...
(ben, 1 May 2011 11:54)
--
So ben, what you are actually saying is that Gaddafi and NATO are the same type of murderers, criminals and child killers? NATO is no better than those criminals and terrorists it claims to oppose. In fact, it has again officially sided with terrorist, the al Qaeda type in Libya but we also know of the KLA type in Kosovo.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Gaddafi during his dictatorship has had any innocent family members murdered, this was Gaddafi's most low profile son and he wasn't really involved with the Gaddafi regime as such and I think it is also unfortunate that his grandchildren have died too; however I can't help but think that this is a wake up call for Gaddafi, a taste of his own medicine. Gaddafi needs to to take the hint and step down otherwise he'll be next.

Then again I'd like to question this news story as the source is the Gaddafi government. It could be a fake story to give Gaddafi sympathy and support on the international arena.

Canadian

pre 13 godina

This HUGE mistake by NATO will turn wave against them. You cannot kill children/grandchildren, regardless who's they are and come out of it justified no matter how you try and spin it. WATCH now in the days to come how things dramatic change especially if someone if pictures off these poor children are published in the world press.

I am relieved that the airhead above me who remarked it was just good medicine what happened is doomed to spend the rest of his life in Kosovo and not free about the world, he is no better than the rebels who celebrated such a cowardly act of killing children.

wtf

pre 13 godina

They are definitly terrorists and cowards. It´s perfectly legal for Kadaffi and the half of libya he represents to wipe out Cameron and/or Sarkozy le sayan´s family in retaliation.

ben

pre 13 godina

There are thousands of sons and grandchildren's that he has killed so he is just having his own medicine...

I wish Milosevic had the same...

wtf

pre 13 godina

They are definitly terrorists and cowards. It´s perfectly legal for Kadaffi and the half of libya he represents to wipe out Cameron and/or Sarkozy le sayan´s family in retaliation.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

There are thousands of sons and grandchildren's that he has killed so he is just having his own medicine...
(ben, 1 May 2011 11:54)
--
So ben, what you are actually saying is that Gaddafi and NATO are the same type of murderers, criminals and child killers? NATO is no better than those criminals and terrorists it claims to oppose. In fact, it has again officially sided with terrorist, the al Qaeda type in Libya but we also know of the KLA type in Kosovo.

Canadian

pre 13 godina

This HUGE mistake by NATO will turn wave against them. You cannot kill children/grandchildren, regardless who's they are and come out of it justified no matter how you try and spin it. WATCH now in the days to come how things dramatic change especially if someone if pictures off these poor children are published in the world press.

I am relieved that the airhead above me who remarked it was just good medicine what happened is doomed to spend the rest of his life in Kosovo and not free about the world, he is no better than the rebels who celebrated such a cowardly act of killing children.

ben

pre 13 godina

There are thousands of sons and grandchildren's that he has killed so he is just having his own medicine...

I wish Milosevic had the same...

Joe

pre 13 godina

Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi.
highduke

As expected all Serbs are in deep sorrow because an other brother of them got killed (what still could turn out as a fake story).
On the other side as a Lybian rebel put it "By God we're not supposed to rejoice anyone's death but we want him to feel the pain and sorrow that we're going though with our own people he killed".

ivan

pre 13 godina

I heard that Serbs are really sad about the death of Gaddafi's son. They feel bad about the son of an Arab dictator but not about their Bosniak brethren. I guess Serbs will always be Serbs.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Gaddafi during his dictatorship has had any innocent family members murdered, this was Gaddafi's most low profile son and he wasn't really involved with the Gaddafi regime as such and I think it is also unfortunate that his grandchildren have died too; however I can't help but think that this is a wake up call for Gaddafi, a taste of his own medicine. Gaddafi needs to to take the hint and step down otherwise he'll be next.

Then again I'd like to question this news story as the source is the Gaddafi government. It could be a fake story to give Gaddafi sympathy and support on the international arena.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"I heard that Serbs are really sad about the death of Gaddafi's son."

Very sad indead. You can also see it in their comments. Wait until Gaddafi himself get killed.

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 13 godina

CG wrote: "Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction..."

Exactly. What do you think the reaction will be if London, Paris or Washington was the target of a nuclear bomb?

lowe

pre 13 godina

Nothing new here. The Yankees and Nato have killed children before in Afghanistan -- they called it collateral damage. And the human rights organizations in the West are silent as a sphinx.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

The 29-year-old Saif al-Arab was a student in Germany and a civilian.

B92

The youngest of the children killed was 6 years old, why are you not mentioning that?

But then again the children of so-called militants killed by US drones in Pakistan and Afghanistan, or by Israel in Gaza, are never mentioned.Underneath the glamour of christian compassion and liberal humanitarianism, lies the will to kill anybody in the name of of the four horsemen and the black stuff. So much for western civilisation.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

"The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives"
(sj, 1 May 2011 16:42)

So let me get this straight, you believe that Gaddafi's 6 square kilometre compound of Bab al-Azizia in southern Tripoli, where Gaddafi's son and grandchildren were apparently killed was a 'civilian target'? You do realise that Bab al-Azizia is a major barracks, a major military base and the main military command centre of Libya. How can Bab al-Azizia be even considered a 'civilian target' as you claim? If Gaddafi decides to keep his family in a military base during a civil war then that is his own stupid fault if they get killed and that is if they're actually dead.

------------------------

In my opinion it is only a question WHEN,not IF a Western city like New York,London,Paris,Tel Aviv or others will be annihilated by a detonation of a smuggled in nuclear bomb...
Remember,Muslims already have nukes in Pakistan which is a very unstable country and home of Al Qaeda...
Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction...
(CG, 1 May 2011 18:44)

Why would Muslims want to set off a nuclear bomb in London or Paris? They'd be killing their fellow Muslims.


---------------

Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi. What a cheap-shot by the puppets of the House of Saud. Keep fighting brother and may your tears inspire you to victory!
(highduke, 1 May 2011 15:07)

Highduke, is this your latest conspiracy theory? You can't actually believe that all NATO member states are puppets of the House of Saud. That is a ridiculous statement to make.

sj

pre 13 godina

NATO was targeting Gaddafi when they sent in that missile – they were not after his son or grandchildren. The simple fact is more western incompetence and their less than accurate intelligence and even less superior weaponry.
The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives – simple stuff of terrorizing the populace, much like when NATO was unsuccessful in their bombardment in Kosovo they then went to target infrastructure in Belgrade. A useless and tired military leadership controls NATO and US forces. This is not going to succeed in Libya and after 4 weeks of bombing what has happened – NOTHING.
So as two, three and four months go by then ground troops will have to be sent it and watch the body bags coming back as Al Qaida joins the festivities.
For you guys in the UK, it’s going to be a repeat of Iraq and after that happens you government will be cutting expenditure for the next 50 years.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi. What a cheap-shot by the puppets of the House of Saud. Keep fighting brother and may your tears inspire you to victory!

CG

pre 13 godina

In my opinion it is only a question WHEN,not IF a Western city like New York,London,Paris,Tel Aviv or others will be annihilated by a detonation of a smuggled in nuclear bomb...
Remember,Muslims already have nukes in Pakistan which is a very unstable country and home of Al Qaeda...
Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction...

Roger7

pre 13 godina

As expected so predictable, Joe's generalizations of all Serbs ... as boring as ever. Thank goodness, all immigrants are not all like Joe.

Rote

pre 13 godina

NATO mother lovers will regret for this murder. Step by step they turned me for Qaddafi’s strong supporter. This man has balls and nothing but death can make him to retreat. He will avenge the 4 young men with his own blood inside. I am sure he was present at the funerals. More planes will come down in what they call the “civilized world”. When in 1986 the mother lovers killed his daughter in law it was quite different.

In the East sons and grandsons cost much more. Out of 6 sons this one was a student and less involved and he just came from Munich to stand by his family. Poor Ben Ghazi people today celebrate the murder of the children. On December 7 in 1941 the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were same joyful when the Japanese planes landed here after Perl Harbor … Well ,well , well

sj

pre 13 godina

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.
(The White Hats Rule, 2 May 2011 04:16)

Twelve years later and Serbia is not a member of NATO and never will become one – it’s not in Russia’s interests; joining the EU is fine as they already control Germany and the rest will follow very soon.
You would shout from the roof tops if your people were half as courageous as Serbs to stand up against the entire world. You see Serbs have backbone unlike their neighbors who are profoundly cowards and will only take action when the victim’s hands are tied behind their backs, much like the Albanians and Croats.

sj

pre 13 godina

Ian, UK

I have no idea where Gaddafi's son was at the time of the strike, but as usual they hit the wrong target. The son was not the target but his father was.

Yes the west has started to hit civilian objects but calling them “military” because they have to ramp it up. The Colonel will not give in so they have become more and more desperate as their military advisers are wrong once again (surprise, surprise). In the coming weeks you’ll see bridges and other infrastructure bombed. It seems that if they can’t get rid of Gaddafi they will “send him back to the stone age”. Does that sound familiar? They used the same words in 1999.

The US just announced the death of Bin Laden and by God will we have to listen to all that clap trap and US BS on their superior forces tracking him down. Only one analyst provided the right answer when asked the question “will it make any difference? No he said. ‘Bin laden was a sick man on his death bed for months now”.

On a brighter note Al Qaida is already in the ranks of the rebels and watch the show from there. I would be very worried about the money the Uk is spending right now – its in overdrive and its all borrowed. Down the track you feel it in a big way.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"As for your constant moaning about Serbs(you seem to be obsessed with us),
look,you are an Hungarian ultranationalist that dreams of Greater Hungry,but your kissing of America`s a** and badmouthing of Serbs,Romanians and other people won`t bring you back Vojvodina and Transylvania since they themselves (US,UK) created Trianon"
CG

I explained that I am as much a Hungarian ultranationalist as you are but I don't see my comment. Why would such a comment be censured?

CG

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 1 May 2011 19:35)

As for your constant moaning about Serbs(you seem to be obsessed with us),
look,you are an Hungarian ultranationalist that dreams of Greater Hungry,but your kissing of America`s a** and badmouthing of Serbs,Romanians and other people won`t bring you back Vojvodina and Transylvania since they themselves (US,UK) created Trianon...

Second,as for Gaddafi,again,I do not support him like the vast majority of Serbs does not,they are muslims,we don`t care about whether they live or not,I am just saying in what consequences these actions in my opinion most consequently will result!

The White Hats Rule

pre 13 godina

NATO was targeting Gaddafi when they sent in that missile – they were not after his son or grandchildren. The simple fact is more western incompetence and their less than accurate intelligence and even less superior weaponry.
The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives – simple stuff of terrorizing the populace, much like when NATO was unsuccessful in their bombardment in Kosovo they then went to target infrastructure in Belgrade. A useless and tired military leadership controls NATO and US forces. This is not going to succeed in Libya and after 4 weeks of bombing what has happened – NOTHING.
So as two, three and four months go by then ground troops will have to be sent it and watch the body bags coming back as Al Qaida joins the festivities.
For you guys in the UK, it’s going to be a repeat of Iraq and after that happens you government will be cutting expenditure for the next 50 years.
(sj, 1 May 2011 16:42)

sj,

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

(sj, 2 May 2011 05:28)

Gaddafi's son and grandchildren were in Bab al-Azizia military command centre when they were apparently killed.

Have you got a reliable third party source to back up your claims that NATO have been bombing civilian targets? Or are you going to believe Brother Gaddafi, the same man who claims that he people love him and that those who are against him are on drugs or have been brainwashed by Al Qaeda. The same man who says that Libya is an Arab nation at Arab League conferences but then he says Libya is an African nation at African Union conferences and that he hates Arabs. He has made many outrageous statements, surely you can't believe him?

Also I don't believe that the US have killed Bin Laden, it is a load of rubbish to help Obama win his election. Bin laden is long dead!

Also have you got a reliable third party source to back up your claim that Al Qaeda is among the ranks of the Libyan rebels?

Also I wouldn't worry about the money the UK is spending right now, we're just spending our military budget. Also debts aren't a problem if you know how to manage them, which the UK is good at doing and has a lot of experience of. You can be in debt and make money and that's what the UK is doing as our economy is slowly on the rise again. A bit like paying a mortgage, our debts are controlled.

Reaction Shmrnaction

pre 13 godina

Exactly. What do you think the reaction will be if London, Paris or Washington was the target of a nuclear bomb?
(Jan Andersen (DK), 1 May 2011 19:37)

The rich will get iodine and emergency attention before the poor,and than the poor will get super angry and start riots and looting and come after the rich that have the iodine and maybe take their eyes out for hording,or something like that. Oh yeah, than your government will play God and get some revenge--lots of good that's gonna do for tourism.Right?

Mean anything to you

pre 13 godina

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.
(The White Hats Rule, 2 May 2011 04:16)

Is that why the White Hats joined up with Hitler in WW2 because he was winning at the time and promised many freebies.What about with the Ottomans,same sycophant philosophy???
When you wrote "everybody" you were only thinking of Albanians,correct?
Because I personally never met any other people in my life that reason like some Albanians that I've read here on B92.
By your reasoning if the US went to war against Russia, and you saw Russians were going to win,you would switch sides "to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated "you" were made to feel by the victor".
Can anyone count on your friendship and loyalty to invest in you?

United we stand united we fall!!!

sj

pre 13 godina

(Ian, UK, 2 May 2011 11:52)


Third party sources, what about the evidence where some of the bombs have landed in Tripoli – they are now in that phase of terrorising the population. They did the same to Serbia in 1999 – do you think you have smart military leadership on board? No what you have is crawlers who have joined political parties and have reached high levels through patronage. It called incompetence incorporated. Let me put it this way if any of these people had real jobs they would be dismissed within two to three months. I’ve met some of your geniuses and they are very unimpressive.

Once again Gaddafi is no fool nor is he mad but playing the west like a classical violinists. In the end your people will have to send in ground forces and that’s when the fire works will start.

Bin Laden has achieved what he wanted and that’s martyr status thanks to the US. This was a no win situation for the west. Osama always said he would never give himself up and regardless of when he died he has achieved his goal.

Now to your country’s finances, unfortunately the British people are not being told the truth, but as I said before you’ll feel it sooner rather than later. Remember that flying those military aircraft costs money and even more dropping bombs and that’s all on redit.

Joe

pre 13 godina

Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi.
highduke

As expected all Serbs are in deep sorrow because an other brother of them got killed (what still could turn out as a fake story).
On the other side as a Lybian rebel put it "By God we're not supposed to rejoice anyone's death but we want him to feel the pain and sorrow that we're going though with our own people he killed".

highduke

pre 13 godina

Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi. What a cheap-shot by the puppets of the House of Saud. Keep fighting brother and may your tears inspire you to victory!

Zoran

pre 13 godina

There are thousands of sons and grandchildren's that he has killed so he is just having his own medicine...
(ben, 1 May 2011 11:54)
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So ben, what you are actually saying is that Gaddafi and NATO are the same type of murderers, criminals and child killers? NATO is no better than those criminals and terrorists it claims to oppose. In fact, it has again officially sided with terrorist, the al Qaeda type in Libya but we also know of the KLA type in Kosovo.

CG

pre 13 godina

In my opinion it is only a question WHEN,not IF a Western city like New York,London,Paris,Tel Aviv or others will be annihilated by a detonation of a smuggled in nuclear bomb...
Remember,Muslims already have nukes in Pakistan which is a very unstable country and home of Al Qaeda...
Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction...

wtf

pre 13 godina

They are definitly terrorists and cowards. It´s perfectly legal for Kadaffi and the half of libya he represents to wipe out Cameron and/or Sarkozy le sayan´s family in retaliation.

Canadian

pre 13 godina

This HUGE mistake by NATO will turn wave against them. You cannot kill children/grandchildren, regardless who's they are and come out of it justified no matter how you try and spin it. WATCH now in the days to come how things dramatic change especially if someone if pictures off these poor children are published in the world press.

I am relieved that the airhead above me who remarked it was just good medicine what happened is doomed to spend the rest of his life in Kosovo and not free about the world, he is no better than the rebels who celebrated such a cowardly act of killing children.

ivan

pre 13 godina

I heard that Serbs are really sad about the death of Gaddafi's son. They feel bad about the son of an Arab dictator but not about their Bosniak brethren. I guess Serbs will always be Serbs.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"I heard that Serbs are really sad about the death of Gaddafi's son."

Very sad indead. You can also see it in their comments. Wait until Gaddafi himself get killed.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

The 29-year-old Saif al-Arab was a student in Germany and a civilian.

B92

The youngest of the children killed was 6 years old, why are you not mentioning that?

But then again the children of so-called militants killed by US drones in Pakistan and Afghanistan, or by Israel in Gaza, are never mentioned.Underneath the glamour of christian compassion and liberal humanitarianism, lies the will to kill anybody in the name of of the four horsemen and the black stuff. So much for western civilisation.

sj

pre 13 godina

NATO was targeting Gaddafi when they sent in that missile – they were not after his son or grandchildren. The simple fact is more western incompetence and their less than accurate intelligence and even less superior weaponry.
The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives – simple stuff of terrorizing the populace, much like when NATO was unsuccessful in their bombardment in Kosovo they then went to target infrastructure in Belgrade. A useless and tired military leadership controls NATO and US forces. This is not going to succeed in Libya and after 4 weeks of bombing what has happened – NOTHING.
So as two, three and four months go by then ground troops will have to be sent it and watch the body bags coming back as Al Qaida joins the festivities.
For you guys in the UK, it’s going to be a repeat of Iraq and after that happens you government will be cutting expenditure for the next 50 years.

lowe

pre 13 godina

Nothing new here. The Yankees and Nato have killed children before in Afghanistan -- they called it collateral damage. And the human rights organizations in the West are silent as a sphinx.

ben

pre 13 godina

There are thousands of sons and grandchildren's that he has killed so he is just having his own medicine...

I wish Milosevic had the same...

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 13 godina

CG wrote: "Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction..."

Exactly. What do you think the reaction will be if London, Paris or Washington was the target of a nuclear bomb?

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Gaddafi during his dictatorship has had any innocent family members murdered, this was Gaddafi's most low profile son and he wasn't really involved with the Gaddafi regime as such and I think it is also unfortunate that his grandchildren have died too; however I can't help but think that this is a wake up call for Gaddafi, a taste of his own medicine. Gaddafi needs to to take the hint and step down otherwise he'll be next.

Then again I'd like to question this news story as the source is the Gaddafi government. It could be a fake story to give Gaddafi sympathy and support on the international arena.

Reaction Shmrnaction

pre 13 godina

Exactly. What do you think the reaction will be if London, Paris or Washington was the target of a nuclear bomb?
(Jan Andersen (DK), 1 May 2011 19:37)

The rich will get iodine and emergency attention before the poor,and than the poor will get super angry and start riots and looting and come after the rich that have the iodine and maybe take their eyes out for hording,or something like that. Oh yeah, than your government will play God and get some revenge--lots of good that's gonna do for tourism.Right?

CG

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(Joe, 1 May 2011 19:35)

As for your constant moaning about Serbs(you seem to be obsessed with us),
look,you are an Hungarian ultranationalist that dreams of Greater Hungry,but your kissing of America`s a** and badmouthing of Serbs,Romanians and other people won`t bring you back Vojvodina and Transylvania since they themselves (US,UK) created Trianon...

Second,as for Gaddafi,again,I do not support him like the vast majority of Serbs does not,they are muslims,we don`t care about whether they live or not,I am just saying in what consequences these actions in my opinion most consequently will result!

Rote

pre 13 godina

NATO mother lovers will regret for this murder. Step by step they turned me for Qaddafi’s strong supporter. This man has balls and nothing but death can make him to retreat. He will avenge the 4 young men with his own blood inside. I am sure he was present at the funerals. More planes will come down in what they call the “civilized world”. When in 1986 the mother lovers killed his daughter in law it was quite different.

In the East sons and grandsons cost much more. Out of 6 sons this one was a student and less involved and he just came from Munich to stand by his family. Poor Ben Ghazi people today celebrate the murder of the children. On December 7 in 1941 the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were same joyful when the Japanese planes landed here after Perl Harbor … Well ,well , well

Roger7

pre 13 godina

As expected so predictable, Joe's generalizations of all Serbs ... as boring as ever. Thank goodness, all immigrants are not all like Joe.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

"The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives"
(sj, 1 May 2011 16:42)

So let me get this straight, you believe that Gaddafi's 6 square kilometre compound of Bab al-Azizia in southern Tripoli, where Gaddafi's son and grandchildren were apparently killed was a 'civilian target'? You do realise that Bab al-Azizia is a major barracks, a major military base and the main military command centre of Libya. How can Bab al-Azizia be even considered a 'civilian target' as you claim? If Gaddafi decides to keep his family in a military base during a civil war then that is his own stupid fault if they get killed and that is if they're actually dead.

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In my opinion it is only a question WHEN,not IF a Western city like New York,London,Paris,Tel Aviv or others will be annihilated by a detonation of a smuggled in nuclear bomb...
Remember,Muslims already have nukes in Pakistan which is a very unstable country and home of Al Qaeda...
Chickens will come home to roost,after every action there will be a reaction...
(CG, 1 May 2011 18:44)

Why would Muslims want to set off a nuclear bomb in London or Paris? They'd be killing their fellow Muslims.


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Deepest condolences from all of Serbdom brother Gadhafi. What a cheap-shot by the puppets of the House of Saud. Keep fighting brother and may your tears inspire you to victory!
(highduke, 1 May 2011 15:07)

Highduke, is this your latest conspiracy theory? You can't actually believe that all NATO member states are puppets of the House of Saud. That is a ridiculous statement to make.

The White Hats Rule

pre 13 godina

NATO was targeting Gaddafi when they sent in that missile – they were not after his son or grandchildren. The simple fact is more western incompetence and their less than accurate intelligence and even less superior weaponry.
The old Colonel will not leave despite the fact that NATO strategy has gone into the second phase of bombing civilian targets, but proclaiming them as military objectives – simple stuff of terrorizing the populace, much like when NATO was unsuccessful in their bombardment in Kosovo they then went to target infrastructure in Belgrade. A useless and tired military leadership controls NATO and US forces. This is not going to succeed in Libya and after 4 weeks of bombing what has happened – NOTHING.
So as two, three and four months go by then ground troops will have to be sent it and watch the body bags coming back as Al Qaida joins the festivities.
For you guys in the UK, it’s going to be a repeat of Iraq and after that happens you government will be cutting expenditure for the next 50 years.
(sj, 1 May 2011 16:42)

sj,

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.

sj

pre 13 godina

Ian, UK

I have no idea where Gaddafi's son was at the time of the strike, but as usual they hit the wrong target. The son was not the target but his father was.

Yes the west has started to hit civilian objects but calling them “military” because they have to ramp it up. The Colonel will not give in so they have become more and more desperate as their military advisers are wrong once again (surprise, surprise). In the coming weeks you’ll see bridges and other infrastructure bombed. It seems that if they can’t get rid of Gaddafi they will “send him back to the stone age”. Does that sound familiar? They used the same words in 1999.

The US just announced the death of Bin Laden and by God will we have to listen to all that clap trap and US BS on their superior forces tracking him down. Only one analyst provided the right answer when asked the question “will it make any difference? No he said. ‘Bin laden was a sick man on his death bed for months now”.

On a brighter note Al Qaida is already in the ranks of the rebels and watch the show from there. I would be very worried about the money the Uk is spending right now – its in overdrive and its all borrowed. Down the track you feel it in a big way.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"As for your constant moaning about Serbs(you seem to be obsessed with us),
look,you are an Hungarian ultranationalist that dreams of Greater Hungry,but your kissing of America`s a** and badmouthing of Serbs,Romanians and other people won`t bring you back Vojvodina and Transylvania since they themselves (US,UK) created Trianon"
CG

I explained that I am as much a Hungarian ultranationalist as you are but I don't see my comment. Why would such a comment be censured?

sj

pre 13 godina

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.
(The White Hats Rule, 2 May 2011 04:16)

Twelve years later and Serbia is not a member of NATO and never will become one – it’s not in Russia’s interests; joining the EU is fine as they already control Germany and the rest will follow very soon.
You would shout from the roof tops if your people were half as courageous as Serbs to stand up against the entire world. You see Serbs have backbone unlike their neighbors who are profoundly cowards and will only take action when the victim’s hands are tied behind their backs, much like the Albanians and Croats.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

(sj, 2 May 2011 05:28)

Gaddafi's son and grandchildren were in Bab al-Azizia military command centre when they were apparently killed.

Have you got a reliable third party source to back up your claims that NATO have been bombing civilian targets? Or are you going to believe Brother Gaddafi, the same man who claims that he people love him and that those who are against him are on drugs or have been brainwashed by Al Qaeda. The same man who says that Libya is an Arab nation at Arab League conferences but then he says Libya is an African nation at African Union conferences and that he hates Arabs. He has made many outrageous statements, surely you can't believe him?

Also I don't believe that the US have killed Bin Laden, it is a load of rubbish to help Obama win his election. Bin laden is long dead!

Also have you got a reliable third party source to back up your claim that Al Qaeda is among the ranks of the Libyan rebels?

Also I wouldn't worry about the money the UK is spending right now, we're just spending our military budget. Also debts aren't a problem if you know how to manage them, which the UK is good at doing and has a lot of experience of. You can be in debt and make money and that's what the UK is doing as our economy is slowly on the rise again. A bit like paying a mortgage, our debts are controlled.

Mean anything to you

pre 13 godina

The Libyans will do exactly what the Serbs did after being defeated by NATO. They will beg to join NATO and the EU. Everybody wants to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated they were made to feel by the victor.
(The White Hats Rule, 2 May 2011 04:16)

Is that why the White Hats joined up with Hitler in WW2 because he was winning at the time and promised many freebies.What about with the Ottomans,same sycophant philosophy???
When you wrote "everybody" you were only thinking of Albanians,correct?
Because I personally never met any other people in my life that reason like some Albanians that I've read here on B92.
By your reasoning if the US went to war against Russia, and you saw Russians were going to win,you would switch sides "to be on the side of the winner no matter how humiliated "you" were made to feel by the victor".
Can anyone count on your friendship and loyalty to invest in you?

United we stand united we fall!!!

sj

pre 13 godina

(Ian, UK, 2 May 2011 11:52)


Third party sources, what about the evidence where some of the bombs have landed in Tripoli – they are now in that phase of terrorising the population. They did the same to Serbia in 1999 – do you think you have smart military leadership on board? No what you have is crawlers who have joined political parties and have reached high levels through patronage. It called incompetence incorporated. Let me put it this way if any of these people had real jobs they would be dismissed within two to three months. I’ve met some of your geniuses and they are very unimpressive.

Once again Gaddafi is no fool nor is he mad but playing the west like a classical violinists. In the end your people will have to send in ground forces and that’s when the fire works will start.

Bin Laden has achieved what he wanted and that’s martyr status thanks to the US. This was a no win situation for the west. Osama always said he would never give himself up and regardless of when he died he has achieved his goal.

Now to your country’s finances, unfortunately the British people are not being told the truth, but as I said before you’ll feel it sooner rather than later. Remember that flying those military aircraft costs money and even more dropping bombs and that’s all on redit.