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Saturday, 30.04.2011.

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Del Ponte: Mladić is in Serbia

Former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte has assessed that Hague Tribunal fugitive Ratko Mladić is hiding in Serbia.

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Peggy

pre 12 godina

1. @ Peggy

The ''exper'' Peggy who knows everything including where the soldiers hide after they commit crimes!!! This is the funniest thing I read in a while Peggy.

So Peggy as long as someone agrees with us Albanians then she/he must be Albanian in this case Roberto, funny again Peggy.
(Mendo, 4 May 2011 00:17)
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You really like my name. Thinking of changing your name to Peggy? Yes I know everything. What would you like to know?

Mendo

pre 13 godina

@ Peggy

The ''exper'' Peggy who knows everything including where the soldiers hide after they commit crimes!!! This is the funniest thing I read in a while Peggy.

So Peggy as long as someone agrees with us Albanians then she/he must be Albanian in this case Roberto, funny again Peggy.

pss

pre 13 godina

It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.
(sj, 1 May 2011 01:03)

The one good point in your post is the connection you draw to Mladic and Karadzic to the dictators (I am assuming you mean from Libya, Egypt, but I would throw North Korea in there too)

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Roberto, I have not been stalking you. I have merely responded to your hateful and biased comments you keep posting here, much like others have.
The fact that I say you are Albanian is not meant to be a put down at all, just an observation but if the cap fits...

You are the one who stuffed up a couple of times and indirectly admitted to being an Albanian by saying we instead of they (For Albanians) so don't blame me for picking that up.

If by answering you or blowing your argument out of the water is stalking you then yes, we are all stalking you here. Don't be so paranoid. If you don't want to interact then don't post on public forums.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Mladic is very important to the west because it then “justifies” their actions against the Serbs, but Mladic has done absolutely nothing wrong. In fact US military leaders have done some heinous acts and not a peep out of anyone including the so called western free press lol!!!!!
The Potocari monument contains over 3000 names of people purported to have been killed by Serbs, but they are alive and well living in the EU, UK, US or as far as Australia. The names on that monument are from battles killed in Tuzla, the Sarajevo counteroffensive in the latter part of the war and the Croat/Bosniak lovers spat.
Why do we have now dictators refusing to budge from power even though the US guarantees there move to another country? It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.
(sj, 1 May 2011 01:03)

Dude, you really see fancy dreams...

As far as the US word, there is no proof it ever existed. But, for the sake of the argument, let's assume that it did. However its meaningless in a court of law. Nobody gave or, for as far as I can tell, will ever give the US (or, for that matter, any other state) the power to grant immunity from criminal prosecution under international criminal law to anybody. So,even if the US (or for that matter any other state) makes that promise to somebody, that somebody must be either stupid and/or ignorant to believe that the promise will have any value in front of an international court of law.

According to ICTY's analysis, the agreement with Holbrook could only be considered by ICTY if Holbrook was acting as a agent of (i) the UNSC, or (ii) the ICTY's Prosecutor. But Holbrook as an agent of the US is nobody and does not produce any legal effect.

"The Chamber also notes that the parties seem to agree in their submissions that, whether or not the Agreement is binding on the Tribunal depends ultimately on the question of whether it can be attributed to the Prosecutor of this Tribunal. In order to attribute this Agreement to the
Prosecutor, the Accused has to show that either (i) the Prosecution and/or its representatives were involved in making it or (ii) the UNSC, the Tribunal's parent-body, was"

http://www.icty.org/x/cases/karadzic/tdec/en/090708.pdf

roberto

pre 13 godina

--This is an open forum, not a chat, practically anyone who has an e mail account can participate, so, i can answer on anyone's behalf the way i please, as long as i don't use offensive language. Roberto ,as far as i know he is not albanian, hence not my brother. Take care.
(iliri, 1 May 2011 16:27)--

hey iliri -- thanks. i had to smile at the little interaction here. miss peggy has been net-stalking me and goading me for years. but that's her problem.

no, i am not albanian, as far as i know. we are american jews, the "bloodline" is mostly from poland, perhaps england, god knows where before then. i take pride in my background, but i really don't give a sh-t about people's ethnicity or relgion, but about their heart, or lack thereof. i have frnds around the world, incl serbia, albania, kosova, now preseva (in serbia), novi pazar (also serbia), bosnia, of course, and on and on. it is perfectly normal for me.

when i tell my close (Kos albanian)frnd/colleague about all the accusations on b92, he always laughs. i am, have been sadly ignorant of much of albanian culture; it's been a steep learning curve. his younger sister, my adopted "niece," tried to teach me a bit more albanian this time round, but it ain't coming easy. when i come to kosova, for some bizarre reason, i automatically begin to speak in (fractured) serbo-croatian. it just happens, i can't seem to help it, and no one but my frnd gets upset. but mostly we all just speak in english.

anyway, it is NOT a put-down for me to hear: "go pray to allah" (that means god) or "go to your albanian brothers (and sisters.)" that may be technically wrong, but it is surely no put down.

actually, my frnd has great political aspirations in kosova, he's always been quite open about it, and claims i will be his "american advisor." we shall see.

felamendarit!

tung.
roberto frisco

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Do you make it a practice to answer for others? I was speaking to your brother Roberto not you.
(Peggy, 1 May 2011 15:16)''

This is an open forum, not a chat, practically anyone who has an e mail account can participate, so, i can answer on anyone's behalf the way i please, as long as i don't use offensive language. Roberto ,as far as i know he is not albanian, hence not my brother. Take care.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Turkey catched Ocalan in Angola...Serbia can't find Mladic in Serbia, yeah right.
(iliri, 1 May 2011 13:19)
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Exactly right. Free world. You can believe anything you like. Nobody is going to care what you believe or even care.

Do you make it a practice to answer for others? I was speaking to your brother Roberto not you.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''It's really sickening to read your hateful comments too you know but here is B92 giving you a chance time and time again.
When are you going to realize that you are showing you extreme hatred and bias here and nobody except your brethren are in your corner and not laughing at you?
(Peggy, 1 May 2011 01:31) ''

If you find it sickening then don't read, we live in a free world afterall, and you are free not to participate, no one is forcing you to....

During Enver Hoxha period, an ordinary ''political'' fugitive, would be kidnaped in Germany, and send back home to face the trial (probably straight execution) ...all this was done by our intelligence in the respective countries and german or french or whatever country's police would not even suspect, and the poor soul was either an asylant or in protection by the respective authorities...if state wants to catch someone, it does it in less then three ours,the wise man once said that the government can catch the rabbit with a carriage...Turkey catched Ocalan in Angola...Serbia can't find Mladic in Serbia, yeah right.

Sherlock Homeboy III

pre 13 godina

Mladic is posting on B92 under the name of one of the pro-ablanian contributers. Removing all the impossible only leaves us with this possibility. What better disguise?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

for starters, she made an absolute disaster of the slobo trial. yes, i suppose they had to allow him to conduct his own defense (sick as it was to watch him re-persecute some of his most pitiful victims) and yes, it was a herculean task, but she was clearly not up to the task. slobo used every trick in the book to prolong the trial, and if his health hadn't finally broken (that's what happens when you keep playing russian roulette),that trial might still be going on today.
================================

Really Roberto??? It's sick to watch a witness get cross examined is it?
So when a man who is fighting for his life in court is faced with his accuser he should not cross examine them because that would be tormenting them. Never mind that maybe they are lying and his life depends on the truth coming out.

Do you believe that anyone pointing a finger at someone saying they caused them harm should be automatically believed and not cross examined or is it just the people who accuse Serbs of crimes should be free from being cross examined.

It's really sickening to read your hateful comments too you know but here is B92 giving you a chance time and time again.
When are you going to realize that you are showing you extreme hatred and bias here and nobody except your brethren are in your corner and not laughing at you?

sj

pre 13 godina

Mladic is not hiding anywhere because no one dares hand him over to the Hague clowns. He is living a normal life in comfort. As far as Karadzic is concerned he got sick of living a particular lifestyle and gave himself up – no the authorities did not arrest him, but he gave himself up and his family was paid very handsomely for that effort; all was negotiated well before Karadzic was “arrested”. Mladic is not interested in money and the authorities can’t touch him otherwise there would be a revolution on the streets.
Mladic is very important to the west because it then “justifies” their actions against the Serbs, but Mladic has done absolutely nothing wrong. In fact US military leaders have done some heinous acts and not a peep out of anyone including the so called western free press lol!!!!!
The Potocari monument contains over 3000 names of people purported to have been killed by Serbs, but they are alive and well living in the EU, UK, US or as far as Australia. The names on that monument are from battles killed in Tuzla, the Sarajevo counteroffensive in the latter part of the war and the Croat/Bosniak lovers spat.
Why do we have now dictators refusing to budge from power even though the US guarantees there move to another country? It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Mladic is not an idiot. He is a soldier and knows how to evade so when Karadzic was caught I'm sure he got out of Serbia as fast as he could. It proved to him that Serbia was not a safe place and too many people were willing to hand him over.
Carla is obviously wrong or she just doesn't know what a soldier would do. If she is aware of how he might think then she is conspiring to help aid his escape which I really don't believe.

Roberto's piece of how he admired he previously but now doesn't is really precious. While she was chasing only Serbs (she was put in a position of of having to by being connected to Hague) she was wonderful and now that she wants justice for all she is no longer a nice person.
Amazing how these Albanians always fail in their arguments.

roberto

pre 13 godina

--She said she was convinced that the Serbian government wanted to arrest Mladić but that it was having problems locating him in time.(bla bla bla)--

You know, Carla (the so-called white witch)is such a sleazy, self-serving has-been -- and yes, if i saw her in person i'd happily say it to her face.

it is true that once upon a time some of us (very naively) had faith in her, but that was many moons ago. the intl community also had faith in demagogue do-dik, but he showed us good, eh?

for starters, she made an absolute disaster of the slobo trial. yes, i suppose they had to allow him to conduct his own defense (sick as it was to watch him re-persecute some of his most pitiful victims) and yes, it was a herculean task, but she was clearly not up to the task. slobo used every trick in the book to prolong the trial, and if his health hadn't finally broken (that's what happens when you keep playing russian roulette),that trial might still be going on today.

geoffrey nice (who we just had the unexpected pleasure to meet) did his best -- i had the "pleasure" of seeing the trial twice, up close and personal -- but Boss del ponte had totally lost focus; it was way over her abilities.

then there was the issue of the fugitives, karadzic and mladic -- she ran us ragged, every other day announcing to the press: it's here, the arrests are imminent, it's right around the corner... at first i was actually stupid enough to believe her: oh my god, i wrote my frnds, it is finally happening... of course "it" never did, though karadzic was eventually caught, done up like that funny old character in Harry Potter. as they said, "by accident." no thanks to carla.

back to mladic: yes, carla, he's still in serbia, any idiot knows that. and the blgd regime continues to harbor him, despite yr and their lies. everyone we spoke with in blgd confirmed this, incl a member of their own parliament. but then i knew it even before i arrived in europe this time.

carla is determined to get back into the fray, and thus the collaboration with the marty/moscow/belgd front. but it ain't gonna happen. she'll just have to write another tell-all (so-called) book, and continue to profit off of others' misery as she always has.

thanks! tung.

roberto
frisco

New Zealander

pre 13 godina

with that many people looking for him I doubt it, no ones seen a photo/video of him in 9 years, theres 10,000 people looking for him per day and a 15 million euro bounty on his head. If I was Mladic i'd go where no one would look for me, and I could escape; the outskirts of russia, the plains of Kazakhstan, Sth Africa, argentina, NZ, the falklands. He could be almost anywhere. Maybe he had plastic surgery, maybe he's dead, However (if he's alive); If he's evaded arrest for so long he must be doing something right. And staying in the country where they're looking for him most is certainly not the right thing to do.

doodah

pre 13 godina

For how many years did Karadzic run a shop in downtown Belgrade, while the govt was vigorously looking for him. Also do you think that anyone who turned him in would collect the 15 million, there is not a witness protection program large enough in the world to protect such an individual and his family from more than half of Serbia that think of Mladic and a national hero. He is there and many many high officials in the Serbian govt not only know his whereabouts but most likely seek his counsel.

doodah

pre 13 godina

For how many years did Karadzic run a shop in downtown Belgrade, while the govt was vigorously looking for him. Also do you think that anyone who turned him in would collect the 15 million, there is not a witness protection program large enough in the world to protect such an individual and his family from more than half of Serbia that think of Mladic and a national hero. He is there and many many high officials in the Serbian govt not only know his whereabouts but most likely seek his counsel.

New Zealander

pre 13 godina

with that many people looking for him I doubt it, no ones seen a photo/video of him in 9 years, theres 10,000 people looking for him per day and a 15 million euro bounty on his head. If I was Mladic i'd go where no one would look for me, and I could escape; the outskirts of russia, the plains of Kazakhstan, Sth Africa, argentina, NZ, the falklands. He could be almost anywhere. Maybe he had plastic surgery, maybe he's dead, However (if he's alive); If he's evaded arrest for so long he must be doing something right. And staying in the country where they're looking for him most is certainly not the right thing to do.

roberto

pre 13 godina

--She said she was convinced that the Serbian government wanted to arrest Mladić but that it was having problems locating him in time.(bla bla bla)--

You know, Carla (the so-called white witch)is such a sleazy, self-serving has-been -- and yes, if i saw her in person i'd happily say it to her face.

it is true that once upon a time some of us (very naively) had faith in her, but that was many moons ago. the intl community also had faith in demagogue do-dik, but he showed us good, eh?

for starters, she made an absolute disaster of the slobo trial. yes, i suppose they had to allow him to conduct his own defense (sick as it was to watch him re-persecute some of his most pitiful victims) and yes, it was a herculean task, but she was clearly not up to the task. slobo used every trick in the book to prolong the trial, and if his health hadn't finally broken (that's what happens when you keep playing russian roulette),that trial might still be going on today.

geoffrey nice (who we just had the unexpected pleasure to meet) did his best -- i had the "pleasure" of seeing the trial twice, up close and personal -- but Boss del ponte had totally lost focus; it was way over her abilities.

then there was the issue of the fugitives, karadzic and mladic -- she ran us ragged, every other day announcing to the press: it's here, the arrests are imminent, it's right around the corner... at first i was actually stupid enough to believe her: oh my god, i wrote my frnds, it is finally happening... of course "it" never did, though karadzic was eventually caught, done up like that funny old character in Harry Potter. as they said, "by accident." no thanks to carla.

back to mladic: yes, carla, he's still in serbia, any idiot knows that. and the blgd regime continues to harbor him, despite yr and their lies. everyone we spoke with in blgd confirmed this, incl a member of their own parliament. but then i knew it even before i arrived in europe this time.

carla is determined to get back into the fray, and thus the collaboration with the marty/moscow/belgd front. but it ain't gonna happen. she'll just have to write another tell-all (so-called) book, and continue to profit off of others' misery as she always has.

thanks! tung.

roberto
frisco

Peggy

pre 13 godina

for starters, she made an absolute disaster of the slobo trial. yes, i suppose they had to allow him to conduct his own defense (sick as it was to watch him re-persecute some of his most pitiful victims) and yes, it was a herculean task, but she was clearly not up to the task. slobo used every trick in the book to prolong the trial, and if his health hadn't finally broken (that's what happens when you keep playing russian roulette),that trial might still be going on today.
================================

Really Roberto??? It's sick to watch a witness get cross examined is it?
So when a man who is fighting for his life in court is faced with his accuser he should not cross examine them because that would be tormenting them. Never mind that maybe they are lying and his life depends on the truth coming out.

Do you believe that anyone pointing a finger at someone saying they caused them harm should be automatically believed and not cross examined or is it just the people who accuse Serbs of crimes should be free from being cross examined.

It's really sickening to read your hateful comments too you know but here is B92 giving you a chance time and time again.
When are you going to realize that you are showing you extreme hatred and bias here and nobody except your brethren are in your corner and not laughing at you?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Mladic is not an idiot. He is a soldier and knows how to evade so when Karadzic was caught I'm sure he got out of Serbia as fast as he could. It proved to him that Serbia was not a safe place and too many people were willing to hand him over.
Carla is obviously wrong or she just doesn't know what a soldier would do. If she is aware of how he might think then she is conspiring to help aid his escape which I really don't believe.

Roberto's piece of how he admired he previously but now doesn't is really precious. While she was chasing only Serbs (she was put in a position of of having to by being connected to Hague) she was wonderful and now that she wants justice for all she is no longer a nice person.
Amazing how these Albanians always fail in their arguments.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Turkey catched Ocalan in Angola...Serbia can't find Mladic in Serbia, yeah right.
(iliri, 1 May 2011 13:19)
=======================

Exactly right. Free world. You can believe anything you like. Nobody is going to care what you believe or even care.

Do you make it a practice to answer for others? I was speaking to your brother Roberto not you.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Mladic is very important to the west because it then “justifies” their actions against the Serbs, but Mladic has done absolutely nothing wrong. In fact US military leaders have done some heinous acts and not a peep out of anyone including the so called western free press lol!!!!!
The Potocari monument contains over 3000 names of people purported to have been killed by Serbs, but they are alive and well living in the EU, UK, US or as far as Australia. The names on that monument are from battles killed in Tuzla, the Sarajevo counteroffensive in the latter part of the war and the Croat/Bosniak lovers spat.
Why do we have now dictators refusing to budge from power even though the US guarantees there move to another country? It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.
(sj, 1 May 2011 01:03)

Dude, you really see fancy dreams...

As far as the US word, there is no proof it ever existed. But, for the sake of the argument, let's assume that it did. However its meaningless in a court of law. Nobody gave or, for as far as I can tell, will ever give the US (or, for that matter, any other state) the power to grant immunity from criminal prosecution under international criminal law to anybody. So,even if the US (or for that matter any other state) makes that promise to somebody, that somebody must be either stupid and/or ignorant to believe that the promise will have any value in front of an international court of law.

According to ICTY's analysis, the agreement with Holbrook could only be considered by ICTY if Holbrook was acting as a agent of (i) the UNSC, or (ii) the ICTY's Prosecutor. But Holbrook as an agent of the US is nobody and does not produce any legal effect.

"The Chamber also notes that the parties seem to agree in their submissions that, whether or not the Agreement is binding on the Tribunal depends ultimately on the question of whether it can be attributed to the Prosecutor of this Tribunal. In order to attribute this Agreement to the
Prosecutor, the Accused has to show that either (i) the Prosecution and/or its representatives were involved in making it or (ii) the UNSC, the Tribunal's parent-body, was"

http://www.icty.org/x/cases/karadzic/tdec/en/090708.pdf

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Roberto, I have not been stalking you. I have merely responded to your hateful and biased comments you keep posting here, much like others have.
The fact that I say you are Albanian is not meant to be a put down at all, just an observation but if the cap fits...

You are the one who stuffed up a couple of times and indirectly admitted to being an Albanian by saying we instead of they (For Albanians) so don't blame me for picking that up.

If by answering you or blowing your argument out of the water is stalking you then yes, we are all stalking you here. Don't be so paranoid. If you don't want to interact then don't post on public forums.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Do you make it a practice to answer for others? I was speaking to your brother Roberto not you.
(Peggy, 1 May 2011 15:16)''

This is an open forum, not a chat, practically anyone who has an e mail account can participate, so, i can answer on anyone's behalf the way i please, as long as i don't use offensive language. Roberto ,as far as i know he is not albanian, hence not my brother. Take care.

sj

pre 13 godina

Mladic is not hiding anywhere because no one dares hand him over to the Hague clowns. He is living a normal life in comfort. As far as Karadzic is concerned he got sick of living a particular lifestyle and gave himself up – no the authorities did not arrest him, but he gave himself up and his family was paid very handsomely for that effort; all was negotiated well before Karadzic was “arrested”. Mladic is not interested in money and the authorities can’t touch him otherwise there would be a revolution on the streets.
Mladic is very important to the west because it then “justifies” their actions against the Serbs, but Mladic has done absolutely nothing wrong. In fact US military leaders have done some heinous acts and not a peep out of anyone including the so called western free press lol!!!!!
The Potocari monument contains over 3000 names of people purported to have been killed by Serbs, but they are alive and well living in the EU, UK, US or as far as Australia. The names on that monument are from battles killed in Tuzla, the Sarajevo counteroffensive in the latter part of the war and the Croat/Bosniak lovers spat.
Why do we have now dictators refusing to budge from power even though the US guarantees there move to another country? It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''It's really sickening to read your hateful comments too you know but here is B92 giving you a chance time and time again.
When are you going to realize that you are showing you extreme hatred and bias here and nobody except your brethren are in your corner and not laughing at you?
(Peggy, 1 May 2011 01:31) ''

If you find it sickening then don't read, we live in a free world afterall, and you are free not to participate, no one is forcing you to....

During Enver Hoxha period, an ordinary ''political'' fugitive, would be kidnaped in Germany, and send back home to face the trial (probably straight execution) ...all this was done by our intelligence in the respective countries and german or french or whatever country's police would not even suspect, and the poor soul was either an asylant or in protection by the respective authorities...if state wants to catch someone, it does it in less then three ours,the wise man once said that the government can catch the rabbit with a carriage...Turkey catched Ocalan in Angola...Serbia can't find Mladic in Serbia, yeah right.

roberto

pre 13 godina

--This is an open forum, not a chat, practically anyone who has an e mail account can participate, so, i can answer on anyone's behalf the way i please, as long as i don't use offensive language. Roberto ,as far as i know he is not albanian, hence not my brother. Take care.
(iliri, 1 May 2011 16:27)--

hey iliri -- thanks. i had to smile at the little interaction here. miss peggy has been net-stalking me and goading me for years. but that's her problem.

no, i am not albanian, as far as i know. we are american jews, the "bloodline" is mostly from poland, perhaps england, god knows where before then. i take pride in my background, but i really don't give a sh-t about people's ethnicity or relgion, but about their heart, or lack thereof. i have frnds around the world, incl serbia, albania, kosova, now preseva (in serbia), novi pazar (also serbia), bosnia, of course, and on and on. it is perfectly normal for me.

when i tell my close (Kos albanian)frnd/colleague about all the accusations on b92, he always laughs. i am, have been sadly ignorant of much of albanian culture; it's been a steep learning curve. his younger sister, my adopted "niece," tried to teach me a bit more albanian this time round, but it ain't coming easy. when i come to kosova, for some bizarre reason, i automatically begin to speak in (fractured) serbo-croatian. it just happens, i can't seem to help it, and no one but my frnd gets upset. but mostly we all just speak in english.

anyway, it is NOT a put-down for me to hear: "go pray to allah" (that means god) or "go to your albanian brothers (and sisters.)" that may be technically wrong, but it is surely no put down.

actually, my frnd has great political aspirations in kosova, he's always been quite open about it, and claims i will be his "american advisor." we shall see.

felamendarit!

tung.
roberto frisco

Sherlock Homeboy III

pre 13 godina

Mladic is posting on B92 under the name of one of the pro-ablanian contributers. Removing all the impossible only leaves us with this possibility. What better disguise?

pss

pre 13 godina

It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.
(sj, 1 May 2011 01:03)

The one good point in your post is the connection you draw to Mladic and Karadzic to the dictators (I am assuming you mean from Libya, Egypt, but I would throw North Korea in there too)

Peggy

pre 12 godina

1. @ Peggy

The ''exper'' Peggy who knows everything including where the soldiers hide after they commit crimes!!! This is the funniest thing I read in a while Peggy.

So Peggy as long as someone agrees with us Albanians then she/he must be Albanian in this case Roberto, funny again Peggy.
(Mendo, 4 May 2011 00:17)
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You really like my name. Thinking of changing your name to Peggy? Yes I know everything. What would you like to know?

Mendo

pre 13 godina

@ Peggy

The ''exper'' Peggy who knows everything including where the soldiers hide after they commit crimes!!! This is the funniest thing I read in a while Peggy.

So Peggy as long as someone agrees with us Albanians then she/he must be Albanian in this case Roberto, funny again Peggy.

roberto

pre 13 godina

--She said she was convinced that the Serbian government wanted to arrest Mladić but that it was having problems locating him in time.(bla bla bla)--

You know, Carla (the so-called white witch)is such a sleazy, self-serving has-been -- and yes, if i saw her in person i'd happily say it to her face.

it is true that once upon a time some of us (very naively) had faith in her, but that was many moons ago. the intl community also had faith in demagogue do-dik, but he showed us good, eh?

for starters, she made an absolute disaster of the slobo trial. yes, i suppose they had to allow him to conduct his own defense (sick as it was to watch him re-persecute some of his most pitiful victims) and yes, it was a herculean task, but she was clearly not up to the task. slobo used every trick in the book to prolong the trial, and if his health hadn't finally broken (that's what happens when you keep playing russian roulette),that trial might still be going on today.

geoffrey nice (who we just had the unexpected pleasure to meet) did his best -- i had the "pleasure" of seeing the trial twice, up close and personal -- but Boss del ponte had totally lost focus; it was way over her abilities.

then there was the issue of the fugitives, karadzic and mladic -- she ran us ragged, every other day announcing to the press: it's here, the arrests are imminent, it's right around the corner... at first i was actually stupid enough to believe her: oh my god, i wrote my frnds, it is finally happening... of course "it" never did, though karadzic was eventually caught, done up like that funny old character in Harry Potter. as they said, "by accident." no thanks to carla.

back to mladic: yes, carla, he's still in serbia, any idiot knows that. and the blgd regime continues to harbor him, despite yr and their lies. everyone we spoke with in blgd confirmed this, incl a member of their own parliament. but then i knew it even before i arrived in europe this time.

carla is determined to get back into the fray, and thus the collaboration with the marty/moscow/belgd front. but it ain't gonna happen. she'll just have to write another tell-all (so-called) book, and continue to profit off of others' misery as she always has.

thanks! tung.

roberto
frisco

New Zealander

pre 13 godina

with that many people looking for him I doubt it, no ones seen a photo/video of him in 9 years, theres 10,000 people looking for him per day and a 15 million euro bounty on his head. If I was Mladic i'd go where no one would look for me, and I could escape; the outskirts of russia, the plains of Kazakhstan, Sth Africa, argentina, NZ, the falklands. He could be almost anywhere. Maybe he had plastic surgery, maybe he's dead, However (if he's alive); If he's evaded arrest for so long he must be doing something right. And staying in the country where they're looking for him most is certainly not the right thing to do.

doodah

pre 13 godina

For how many years did Karadzic run a shop in downtown Belgrade, while the govt was vigorously looking for him. Also do you think that anyone who turned him in would collect the 15 million, there is not a witness protection program large enough in the world to protect such an individual and his family from more than half of Serbia that think of Mladic and a national hero. He is there and many many high officials in the Serbian govt not only know his whereabouts but most likely seek his counsel.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Mladic is not an idiot. He is a soldier and knows how to evade so when Karadzic was caught I'm sure he got out of Serbia as fast as he could. It proved to him that Serbia was not a safe place and too many people were willing to hand him over.
Carla is obviously wrong or she just doesn't know what a soldier would do. If she is aware of how he might think then she is conspiring to help aid his escape which I really don't believe.

Roberto's piece of how he admired he previously but now doesn't is really precious. While she was chasing only Serbs (she was put in a position of of having to by being connected to Hague) she was wonderful and now that she wants justice for all she is no longer a nice person.
Amazing how these Albanians always fail in their arguments.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''It's really sickening to read your hateful comments too you know but here is B92 giving you a chance time and time again.
When are you going to realize that you are showing you extreme hatred and bias here and nobody except your brethren are in your corner and not laughing at you?
(Peggy, 1 May 2011 01:31) ''

If you find it sickening then don't read, we live in a free world afterall, and you are free not to participate, no one is forcing you to....

During Enver Hoxha period, an ordinary ''political'' fugitive, would be kidnaped in Germany, and send back home to face the trial (probably straight execution) ...all this was done by our intelligence in the respective countries and german or french or whatever country's police would not even suspect, and the poor soul was either an asylant or in protection by the respective authorities...if state wants to catch someone, it does it in less then three ours,the wise man once said that the government can catch the rabbit with a carriage...Turkey catched Ocalan in Angola...Serbia can't find Mladic in Serbia, yeah right.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Do you make it a practice to answer for others? I was speaking to your brother Roberto not you.
(Peggy, 1 May 2011 15:16)''

This is an open forum, not a chat, practically anyone who has an e mail account can participate, so, i can answer on anyone's behalf the way i please, as long as i don't use offensive language. Roberto ,as far as i know he is not albanian, hence not my brother. Take care.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

for starters, she made an absolute disaster of the slobo trial. yes, i suppose they had to allow him to conduct his own defense (sick as it was to watch him re-persecute some of his most pitiful victims) and yes, it was a herculean task, but she was clearly not up to the task. slobo used every trick in the book to prolong the trial, and if his health hadn't finally broken (that's what happens when you keep playing russian roulette),that trial might still be going on today.
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Really Roberto??? It's sick to watch a witness get cross examined is it?
So when a man who is fighting for his life in court is faced with his accuser he should not cross examine them because that would be tormenting them. Never mind that maybe they are lying and his life depends on the truth coming out.

Do you believe that anyone pointing a finger at someone saying they caused them harm should be automatically believed and not cross examined or is it just the people who accuse Serbs of crimes should be free from being cross examined.

It's really sickening to read your hateful comments too you know but here is B92 giving you a chance time and time again.
When are you going to realize that you are showing you extreme hatred and bias here and nobody except your brethren are in your corner and not laughing at you?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Turkey catched Ocalan in Angola...Serbia can't find Mladic in Serbia, yeah right.
(iliri, 1 May 2011 13:19)
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Exactly right. Free world. You can believe anything you like. Nobody is going to care what you believe or even care.

Do you make it a practice to answer for others? I was speaking to your brother Roberto not you.

sj

pre 13 godina

Mladic is not hiding anywhere because no one dares hand him over to the Hague clowns. He is living a normal life in comfort. As far as Karadzic is concerned he got sick of living a particular lifestyle and gave himself up – no the authorities did not arrest him, but he gave himself up and his family was paid very handsomely for that effort; all was negotiated well before Karadzic was “arrested”. Mladic is not interested in money and the authorities can’t touch him otherwise there would be a revolution on the streets.
Mladic is very important to the west because it then “justifies” their actions against the Serbs, but Mladic has done absolutely nothing wrong. In fact US military leaders have done some heinous acts and not a peep out of anyone including the so called western free press lol!!!!!
The Potocari monument contains over 3000 names of people purported to have been killed by Serbs, but they are alive and well living in the EU, UK, US or as far as Australia. The names on that monument are from battles killed in Tuzla, the Sarajevo counteroffensive in the latter part of the war and the Croat/Bosniak lovers spat.
Why do we have now dictators refusing to budge from power even though the US guarantees there move to another country? It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Mladic is very important to the west because it then “justifies” their actions against the Serbs, but Mladic has done absolutely nothing wrong. In fact US military leaders have done some heinous acts and not a peep out of anyone including the so called western free press lol!!!!!
The Potocari monument contains over 3000 names of people purported to have been killed by Serbs, but they are alive and well living in the EU, UK, US or as far as Australia. The names on that monument are from battles killed in Tuzla, the Sarajevo counteroffensive in the latter part of the war and the Croat/Bosniak lovers spat.
Why do we have now dictators refusing to budge from power even though the US guarantees there move to another country? It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.
(sj, 1 May 2011 01:03)

Dude, you really see fancy dreams...

As far as the US word, there is no proof it ever existed. But, for the sake of the argument, let's assume that it did. However its meaningless in a court of law. Nobody gave or, for as far as I can tell, will ever give the US (or, for that matter, any other state) the power to grant immunity from criminal prosecution under international criminal law to anybody. So,even if the US (or for that matter any other state) makes that promise to somebody, that somebody must be either stupid and/or ignorant to believe that the promise will have any value in front of an international court of law.

According to ICTY's analysis, the agreement with Holbrook could only be considered by ICTY if Holbrook was acting as a agent of (i) the UNSC, or (ii) the ICTY's Prosecutor. But Holbrook as an agent of the US is nobody and does not produce any legal effect.

"The Chamber also notes that the parties seem to agree in their submissions that, whether or not the Agreement is binding on the Tribunal depends ultimately on the question of whether it can be attributed to the Prosecutor of this Tribunal. In order to attribute this Agreement to the
Prosecutor, the Accused has to show that either (i) the Prosecution and/or its representatives were involved in making it or (ii) the UNSC, the Tribunal's parent-body, was"

http://www.icty.org/x/cases/karadzic/tdec/en/090708.pdf

Sherlock Homeboy III

pre 13 godina

Mladic is posting on B92 under the name of one of the pro-ablanian contributers. Removing all the impossible only leaves us with this possibility. What better disguise?

roberto

pre 13 godina

--This is an open forum, not a chat, practically anyone who has an e mail account can participate, so, i can answer on anyone's behalf the way i please, as long as i don't use offensive language. Roberto ,as far as i know he is not albanian, hence not my brother. Take care.
(iliri, 1 May 2011 16:27)--

hey iliri -- thanks. i had to smile at the little interaction here. miss peggy has been net-stalking me and goading me for years. but that's her problem.

no, i am not albanian, as far as i know. we are american jews, the "bloodline" is mostly from poland, perhaps england, god knows where before then. i take pride in my background, but i really don't give a sh-t about people's ethnicity or relgion, but about their heart, or lack thereof. i have frnds around the world, incl serbia, albania, kosova, now preseva (in serbia), novi pazar (also serbia), bosnia, of course, and on and on. it is perfectly normal for me.

when i tell my close (Kos albanian)frnd/colleague about all the accusations on b92, he always laughs. i am, have been sadly ignorant of much of albanian culture; it's been a steep learning curve. his younger sister, my adopted "niece," tried to teach me a bit more albanian this time round, but it ain't coming easy. when i come to kosova, for some bizarre reason, i automatically begin to speak in (fractured) serbo-croatian. it just happens, i can't seem to help it, and no one but my frnd gets upset. but mostly we all just speak in english.

anyway, it is NOT a put-down for me to hear: "go pray to allah" (that means god) or "go to your albanian brothers (and sisters.)" that may be technically wrong, but it is surely no put down.

actually, my frnd has great political aspirations in kosova, he's always been quite open about it, and claims i will be his "american advisor." we shall see.

felamendarit!

tung.
roberto frisco

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Roberto, I have not been stalking you. I have merely responded to your hateful and biased comments you keep posting here, much like others have.
The fact that I say you are Albanian is not meant to be a put down at all, just an observation but if the cap fits...

You are the one who stuffed up a couple of times and indirectly admitted to being an Albanian by saying we instead of they (For Albanians) so don't blame me for picking that up.

If by answering you or blowing your argument out of the water is stalking you then yes, we are all stalking you here. Don't be so paranoid. If you don't want to interact then don't post on public forums.

pss

pre 13 godina

It’s simply that the US word is meaningless as they saw that Richard Holbrook guaranteed Mladic and Karadzic immunity from persecution if they disappeared from public view and the US went back on its word. That is the worst act for a superpower.
(sj, 1 May 2011 01:03)

The one good point in your post is the connection you draw to Mladic and Karadzic to the dictators (I am assuming you mean from Libya, Egypt, but I would throw North Korea in there too)

Mendo

pre 13 godina

@ Peggy

The ''exper'' Peggy who knows everything including where the soldiers hide after they commit crimes!!! This is the funniest thing I read in a while Peggy.

So Peggy as long as someone agrees with us Albanians then she/he must be Albanian in this case Roberto, funny again Peggy.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

1. @ Peggy

The ''exper'' Peggy who knows everything including where the soldiers hide after they commit crimes!!! This is the funniest thing I read in a while Peggy.

So Peggy as long as someone agrees with us Albanians then she/he must be Albanian in this case Roberto, funny again Peggy.
(Mendo, 4 May 2011 00:17)
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You really like my name. Thinking of changing your name to Peggy? Yes I know everything. What would you like to know?