Partition talk is provocation, K. Albanians say

Those provocations but also prove that Serbs are losing more and more their nerves. What happened with their slogan "no partition, whole Kosovo is ours"? I tell you what happened to them. Serbs realize that they already lost and try to scavenge what they think is still possible to get. But they, again, will fail. Kosovo is long gone. Despite, what would be achieved, anyway? All for them relevant sites are South to the Ibar, so well in Albanian space.

Overall very good development for the Albanian side.

Cheers!

It's really pathetic to see a loser nation like Serbia act this way (not surprisingly though). As each day goes by, Serbia and the serb nationalists are beginning to realize the reality in the ground, that Kosovo is independent and will never be ruled by Serbia again. The Kosovo Albanians will never accept Serbian rule, and that's something the Serb politician realize but will not openly admit it in fear of being killed by their fellow serbs. KOSOVO is independent, get that through your head Serbs, you've lost the right to rule Kosovo when you acted to disperse the Kosovo Albanians from their native homes.

The K.Albs seem very upset and nervous in their tone. But personally I hope the K.Albs stand their ground on partition. I do not support partition because what would a formal partition solve? North of the Ibar is well integrated with Serbia and south of the Ibar is still being occupied by illegal aliens.

On top of that, the only partition that needs to be agreed upon is yes, North Kosovo.. however also Strpce, Gracanica, Novo Brdo and any Serbian monasteries should have direct influence from Belgrade. While the rest can look to Pristina. We shall see in 10 years which parts of Kosovo are the cleanest, most modern and well developed in the province. I would also support after this agreement is made to even set up contacts and relations with authorities in Pristina. This would be for the sake of reconciliation and freedom of movement within the province.

Let them call themselves officials of whatever they'd like too, at the end Kosovo would still become overall more than autonomy less than full independence..which is what Serbia argued for initially.

Nema Predaje.

Partition talk is provocation, K. Albanians say

So is Independence for land thiefs and Serbian organ harvesters that are presently in power and hold many top positions--says this one pissed-off American with Balkan ancestors.

I think albanians need to accept the reality on the ground. Serbs have lost some parts of Kosovo and albanains have done the same. Will serbs in the north accept albanian institutions? No! Will albanians accept serbian domination? No! What's there to argue about? Accept the facts.

She should work on loosing some weight..

What happened with thetir slogan "no partition, whole Kosovo is ours"? I tell you what happened to them. Serbs realize that they already lost and try to scavenge what they think is still possible to get.

Yes, some Serbs seem to accept the fact that 'Kosovo is Serbia' doesn't match with the reality. Time for Kosovo Albanians to accept the fact that the 'Kosovo independence' and, especially the 'territorial integrity' of Kosovo doesn't match with the reality, neither.

you've lost the right to rule Kosovo when you acted to disperse the Kosovo Albanians from their native homes.
(BEN, 24 April 2011 22:23)

lets use that logic then
The Albanians lost the Right to rule Kosovo
1st. WW1
2nd. With the Exploits of the SS Skendeberg Division and their Nazi friends
3rd. When they drove the Serbs from their ancestral homes in the late 80s
4th. When they committed horrendous atrocities during the 98-99 war
5th. When they drove nearly every Serb out of Kosovo and burnt down their houses so they wouldnt return post war
6th. When they kidnapped Serbs to take their organs out
7th. When they initiated a 21st Century pogrom, drove Serbs out of the Province and destroyed hundreds of churches in 2004
8th. When the Albanians failed to give any human rights to the Serbs since.

As for your own reason, the majority were running first from the bombs (ever wondered why 200,000 of non Serb refugees fled into Yugoslavia?) , and second when the KLA began clearing villages before battles(though its undeniable that some villages were cleansed), The difference between the two is that the Albanian ethnic cleansing was under centralised leadership by the KLA, most of which are still in power, while the Serbian govt never gave such orders, ever wondered why the refugee crisis didnt start until the bombs started falling?

"The Kosovo Albanians will never accept Serbian rule, and that's something the Serb politician realize but will not openly admit it in fear of being killed by their fellow serbs." (ben)

-- A rational thinking individual would then come to the conclusion that talks of partition is a realization of this situation. How you and roberto then irrationally blather on about Serbs not seeing the reality on the ground is beyond me. Additionally, how you both seem to miss the point of the article and talk about Albanians never being ruled by Serbia for ever and ever indicated you're missing the forest for the same trees you constantly obsess over.

Partition, in whatever capacity it's done in, implies cutting one's losses and walking away with a smaller piece of the pie but that which one has legitimate authority over. It effectively recognizes the impracticality of exerting authority over a piece of land that's populated by people that want nothing to do with Belgrade, and has been institutionally, politically, economically, and administratively outside their authority for some time. This should have been obvious reading this article, but for whatever reason you and roberto seemed to have read and interpreted something entirely different. Or better yet, you interpreted what you wanted to interpret to meet your own limited ways of thinking.

Tell me ben what you think - no better yet why you think - the north and/or any other Serb part of Kosovo should be part of Pristina's authority. Why should you think Albanians who don't have to submit to Serbia's authority should then enforce their own on Serbs? Particularly in areas they've never controlled and have no legitimate authority over?

By actually contemplating partition, Stefanovic has proven himself to be far more flexible and forward thinking than Tahiri ever could be since she's repeating the same unconstructive and worn out statements of stubborness from Pristina elites that are known to huff and puff but need someone else to produce results. In many respects she's been constantly reacting to events at these talks instead of being pro-active.

I agree. No partition of a state against its will. So no partition of Serbia. And as we all know Kosovo is a Serbian province.

Like South Tirol is a province of Italy!

KiM should remain whole but partitioned functionally and not formally with Serbians controlling their areas while KiM Albanians control their own.

I understand the West is a bit wiser now after seeing BiH. They realise the Serbian areas will prosper while the ethnic Albanian areas will continue to remain corrupt, criminal and bankrupt black holes. Now that doesn't look good, does it? All of the people the West supports end up on welfare while those against them end up strong.

Anyway, lets wait this one out because I don't think those young KiM Albanians really want to be another lost generation. Hopefully they will stand up against the poor leadership in Pristina. Seeing Middle-East type protests in Pristina would be a positive development.

"Partition talk is provocation, K. Albanians say"

-- Partition talk is rational and forward-thinking the rest of the world say.

Daytonize this Goddamn protectorate and be done with it.

I suspect the statement was meant to piss off the albos into break off talks because even the serb team negotiator wants this to fail as well as others within the current government. Its the EU which is pushing this dialogue on both side of the table. But IMHO its a waste of time all parties involved know it. Bring in MUP into northern KiM and around all the monasteries and serbs will be protected from the albs.

KOSOVO is independent, get that through your head Serbs, you've lost the right to rule Kosovo when you acted to disperse the Kosovo Albanians from their native homes.
(BEN, 24 April 2011 22:23)

Thank you ben, as usual. edita tahiri is showing herself a strong negotiator, a canny representative for our side. i'm quite pleased with her work. sonia biserko assured us of her high qualities, and as usual, has been proven right.

here is the thing that the serb nationalists and their "pals" seem to never get: despite all of the (understandable) differences in opinions, backgrounds, politics, etc., Kosavar albanians are united on one basic precept -- they will never! allow the terror rule of belgrade again. never. it isn't just milosevic, though that was more than enough horror; it was a century of oppression, of forced exiles, of mass murder, of cruel and evil, racist treatment. the albanians took it, more or less, seeing no way out, but enough was enough. they found an ally in the US, and it's a working alliance despite any complications. and it's an alliance set in stone, despite the very worst of intentions by the belgrade regime and its allies.

edita also shows that a woman man match any many in politics, even balkan politics, can more than hold her own. you've got to respect that.

as usual, i send my appreciation to all of our friends and supporters. it hasn't always been easy, what with the non-stop attacks from their press, the marty SMEAR report, etc. we shall persevere, we shall never allow them to control us again. that ship has sailed, forever.

tung!

roberto
frisco

The so called Kosovo officials try to persuade people that they ostensibly control the territory of Kosovo,that they are a constituted state with its borders that cannot be trespassed and violated,and the state cannot be partitioned. According to the International law, that rule can be applied only to the sovereign countries,which means to the countries that are United Nations recognized countries. By the rule, no territory can be unitarily seceded; the ITJ ruling did not mean secession of Kosovo because the UN Security Council is the only entitled body which authorizes establishment of new states. So ,Kosovo cannot be a sovereign state.The volatility of UN Special Representatives in Kosovo often misguided people there. Their result is following. Instead of exercising an unbiased and balanced policy in multi-national Kosovo, they shut their eyes to the deepening ethnic crises. They downgraded the arising violence and crime against Serbs in Kosovo by ethnic Albanians. They exerted influence-peddling policy ,so every whim by Albanians was fulfilled. So their expectations are great. They are trying to impose unrealistic whims in their negotiations as if they were a sovereign, UN recognized state.

If Serbia offers Preshevo Velley in exchange of North Mitrovica and the recognision of Kosovo from Serbia or at least allowing Kosovo to have UN seat without formal recongision,I agree.Otherwise the partition of North Mitrovica in exchange of nothing, is not an option.Tahiri is right.

By actually contemplating partition, Stefanovic has proven himself to be far more flexible and forward thinking than Tahiri ever could be since she's repeating the same unconstructive and worn out statements of stubborness from Pristina elites that are known to huff and puff but need someone else to produce results. In many respects she's been constantly reacting to events at these talks instead of being pro-active.
(Mike, 25 April 2011 13:57)


Actually, Mike she has been reacting to events that have taken place outside the meetings.
I thought it was rather amusing that following the first meeting the Serbs, Albanians, and European participants all had the same view point that not much progress was made beyond civilities, ie they met each other and got to know the opposing teams and laid out an agenda for initial discussions.
Then each day following that first meeting Stefnovic would announce to the press how much progress had been made during the meeting and how close they were to making some agreements on critical issues. How he could say this even though that had not again met is definitly a mystery.

For me I think some type of partition is in the best interest of everyone. Kosovo will only be expending a lot of useless energy if they try to force the north to come into line with the rest of Kosovo, Serbia can claim they won something if they can in someway retain control over the north. But at this stage it is right for the Kosovo govt to reject any talks of partition until some type of consensus is reached on how Serbia will perceive the status of the rest of Kosovo.
The Kosovo govt should only consider such options if it means that partition in exchange for an agreement for relinquishing claims on the rest of Kosovo. Notice I am not saying a formal recognition, only ending insistance that Kosovo is still a part of Serbia.

Ben,

Kosovo independent? Well, please check 1244 then. It is still valid!

By the way: is Abkahzia indepdendent? Taiwan? Ossetia?
No double standards please!

You definitely have a very Serbian way of looking at things, not right but still very Serbian.

Looking at Tahiri's picture, I start to think that she is the physical embodiment of Kosovo's screwy politics or the map. Notice how she wears a red neck tie (and different colored ones on different occasions)? Is it to hide the bolts that keep her together or rather her head and her body that represent the different parts of Pristina's mafia clans? Maybe it is simply the join of the latex suit with someone else entirely underneath it. Or, and this is my favorite, she the neck covering represents the river Ibar... If that were the case, then on second thoughts the kosovo albanians can keep the head...

I have been reading all of these comments, and I honestly don't see how Albanians still believe firmly that Kosovo is a fully independent and sovereign. How can it be a sovereign independent when:

1. 30% of its territory is under direct control of Serbia (Northern Kosovo, Gracanica, Strpce, Klokot, Partes, Novo Brdo, Ranilug, Vucitrn)
2. 60% of the worlds sovereign states refuse to recognise it as anything else but a Serbian province.
3. Kosovo is not allowed to enter any international institutions such as
the UN, EU, etc. until Serbia and Russia recognize it, which will clearly never happen.
4. Kosovo is still under Resoltuion 1244 which guarantees Serbia's sovereignty over the province and is still in effect.
5. Half of Kosovo's border is with Serbia, which recognizes Kosovo as its province.

I honestly don't see how it can be independent of Serbia. Kosovo can not prosper and move on until the Officials in Pristina come to a mutual agreement with Serbia over the future status of Kosovo. Until then Serbia will continue to prevent Kosovo from joining the international community. It will also not allow it to join any international organization such as the UN and EU due to support from Russia, China, India, and the 5 EU countries which refuse to recognise the Albanian UDI. Without joining the international community and these organizations Kosovo will remain a black-hole, but most importantly it will firmly remain within Serbia legally even though Serbia doesn't control 2/3 of the province. But isn't that what Serbia wanted? Serbia always said that it did not want to control the lives of the Albanians but only wanted to preserve its territorial integrity. Serbia has the Albanians right where it wants them, they are controlling their own lives but Kosovo is still legally within Serbia. You have to be blind not to see that Serbia's plan "More than autonomy, Less than Independence" is in effect. Any dialogue with the Albanians would only make gains for Serbia because Serbia already has Kosovo exactly where it wants it. Soon the Albanians will come to their senses after they see that independence from Serbia can not be successfully achieved. They will soon come back to the negotiating table after they find out they are unable to join the EU due to Serbian, Spanish, Greek, Romanian, Slovakian, and Cypriot opposition. Or they can remain hard-headed and stay at a 40% unemployment rate, high inflation, and no forseeable future. Mark my words the Albanians will come back to the negotiating table after they realize that without Serbia's say, Kosovo has no future.

If Serbia offers Preshevo Velley in exchange of North Mitrovica and the recognision of Kosovo from Serbia or at least allowing Kosovo to have UN seat without formal recongision,I agree.Otherwise the partition of North Mitrovica in exchange of nothing, is not an option.Tahiri is right.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 April 2011 16:58)

You give me your house and bank account number and I'll think about it. I'll have your color tv too.

Roberto wrote:


"Thank you ben, as usual. edita tahiri is showing herself a strong negotiator, a canny representative for our side."
===========================

Our side? Are you finally going to admit that you are Albanian?

She should work on loosing some weight..

Those provocations but also prove that Serbs are losing more and more their nerves. What happened with their slogan "no partition, whole Kosovo is ours"? I tell you what happened to them. Serbs realize that they already lost and try to scavenge what they think is still possible to get. But they, again, will fail. Kosovo is long gone. Despite, what would be achieved, anyway? All for them relevant sites are South to the Ibar, so well in Albanian space.

Overall very good development for the Albanian side.

Cheers!

The K.Albs seem very upset and nervous in their tone. But personally I hope the K.Albs stand their ground on partition. I do not support partition because what would a formal partition solve? North of the Ibar is well integrated with Serbia and south of the Ibar is still being occupied by illegal aliens.

On top of that, the only partition that needs to be agreed upon is yes, North Kosovo.. however also Strpce, Gracanica, Novo Brdo and any Serbian monasteries should have direct influence from Belgrade. While the rest can look to Pristina. We shall see in 10 years which parts of Kosovo are the cleanest, most modern and well developed in the province. I would also support after this agreement is made to even set up contacts and relations with authorities in Pristina. This would be for the sake of reconciliation and freedom of movement within the province.

Let them call themselves officials of whatever they'd like too, at the end Kosovo would still become overall more than autonomy less than full independence..which is what Serbia argued for initially.

Nema Predaje.

It's really pathetic to see a loser nation like Serbia act this way (not surprisingly though). As each day goes by, Serbia and the serb nationalists are beginning to realize the reality in the ground, that Kosovo is independent and will never be ruled by Serbia again. The Kosovo Albanians will never accept Serbian rule, and that's something the Serb politician realize but will not openly admit it in fear of being killed by their fellow serbs. KOSOVO is independent, get that through your head Serbs, you've lost the right to rule Kosovo when you acted to disperse the Kosovo Albanians from their native homes.

What happened with thetir slogan "no partition, whole Kosovo is ours"? I tell you what happened to them. Serbs realize that they already lost and try to scavenge what they think is still possible to get.

Yes, some Serbs seem to accept the fact that 'Kosovo is Serbia' doesn't match with the reality. Time for Kosovo Albanians to accept the fact that the 'Kosovo independence' and, especially the 'territorial integrity' of Kosovo doesn't match with the reality, neither.

Partition talk is provocation, K. Albanians say

So is Independence for land thiefs and Serbian organ harvesters that are presently in power and hold many top positions--says this one pissed-off American with Balkan ancestors.

I think albanians need to accept the reality on the ground. Serbs have lost some parts of Kosovo and albanains have done the same. Will serbs in the north accept albanian institutions? No! Will albanians accept serbian domination? No! What's there to argue about? Accept the facts.

KOSOVO is independent, get that through your head Serbs, you've lost the right to rule Kosovo when you acted to disperse the Kosovo Albanians from their native homes.
(BEN, 24 April 2011 22:23)

Thank you ben, as usual. edita tahiri is showing herself a strong negotiator, a canny representative for our side. i'm quite pleased with her work. sonia biserko assured us of her high qualities, and as usual, has been proven right.

here is the thing that the serb nationalists and their "pals" seem to never get: despite all of the (understandable) differences in opinions, backgrounds, politics, etc., Kosavar albanians are united on one basic precept -- they will never! allow the terror rule of belgrade again. never. it isn't just milosevic, though that was more than enough horror; it was a century of oppression, of forced exiles, of mass murder, of cruel and evil, racist treatment. the albanians took it, more or less, seeing no way out, but enough was enough. they found an ally in the US, and it's a working alliance despite any complications. and it's an alliance set in stone, despite the very worst of intentions by the belgrade regime and its allies.

edita also shows that a woman man match any many in politics, even balkan politics, can more than hold her own. you've got to respect that.

as usual, i send my appreciation to all of our friends and supporters. it hasn't always been easy, what with the non-stop attacks from their press, the marty SMEAR report, etc. we shall persevere, we shall never allow them to control us again. that ship has sailed, forever.

tung!

roberto
frisco

you've lost the right to rule Kosovo when you acted to disperse the Kosovo Albanians from their native homes.
(BEN, 24 April 2011 22:23)

lets use that logic then
The Albanians lost the Right to rule Kosovo
1st. WW1
2nd. With the Exploits of the SS Skendeberg Division and their Nazi friends
3rd. When they drove the Serbs from their ancestral homes in the late 80s
4th. When they committed horrendous atrocities during the 98-99 war
5th. When they drove nearly every Serb out of Kosovo and burnt down their houses so they wouldnt return post war
6th. When they kidnapped Serbs to take their organs out
7th. When they initiated a 21st Century pogrom, drove Serbs out of the Province and destroyed hundreds of churches in 2004
8th. When the Albanians failed to give any human rights to the Serbs since.

As for your own reason, the majority were running first from the bombs (ever wondered why 200,000 of non Serb refugees fled into Yugoslavia?) , and second when the KLA began clearing villages before battles(though its undeniable that some villages were cleansed), The difference between the two is that the Albanian ethnic cleansing was under centralised leadership by the KLA, most of which are still in power, while the Serbian govt never gave such orders, ever wondered why the refugee crisis didnt start until the bombs started falling?

If Serbia offers Preshevo Velley in exchange of North Mitrovica and the recognision of Kosovo from Serbia or at least allowing Kosovo to have UN seat without formal recongision,I agree.Otherwise the partition of North Mitrovica in exchange of nothing, is not an option.Tahiri is right.

I agree. No partition of a state against its will. So no partition of Serbia. And as we all know Kosovo is a Serbian province.

Like South Tirol is a province of Italy!

KiM should remain whole but partitioned functionally and not formally with Serbians controlling their areas while KiM Albanians control their own.

I understand the West is a bit wiser now after seeing BiH. They realise the Serbian areas will prosper while the ethnic Albanian areas will continue to remain corrupt, criminal and bankrupt black holes. Now that doesn't look good, does it? All of the people the West supports end up on welfare while those against them end up strong.

Anyway, lets wait this one out because I don't think those young KiM Albanians really want to be another lost generation. Hopefully they will stand up against the poor leadership in Pristina. Seeing Middle-East type protests in Pristina would be a positive development.

By actually contemplating partition, Stefanovic has proven himself to be far more flexible and forward thinking than Tahiri ever could be since she's repeating the same unconstructive and worn out statements of stubborness from Pristina elites that are known to huff and puff but need someone else to produce results. In many respects she's been constantly reacting to events at these talks instead of being pro-active.
(Mike, 25 April 2011 13:57)


Actually, Mike she has been reacting to events that have taken place outside the meetings.
I thought it was rather amusing that following the first meeting the Serbs, Albanians, and European participants all had the same view point that not much progress was made beyond civilities, ie they met each other and got to know the opposing teams and laid out an agenda for initial discussions.
Then each day following that first meeting Stefnovic would announce to the press how much progress had been made during the meeting and how close they were to making some agreements on critical issues. How he could say this even though that had not again met is definitly a mystery.

For me I think some type of partition is in the best interest of everyone. Kosovo will only be expending a lot of useless energy if they try to force the north to come into line with the rest of Kosovo, Serbia can claim they won something if they can in someway retain control over the north. But at this stage it is right for the Kosovo govt to reject any talks of partition until some type of consensus is reached on how Serbia will perceive the status of the rest of Kosovo.
The Kosovo govt should only consider such options if it means that partition in exchange for an agreement for relinquishing claims on the rest of Kosovo. Notice I am not saying a formal recognition, only ending insistance that Kosovo is still a part of Serbia.

"Partition talk is provocation, K. Albanians say"

-- Partition talk is rational and forward-thinking the rest of the world say.

Daytonize this Goddamn protectorate and be done with it.

"The Kosovo Albanians will never accept Serbian rule, and that's something the Serb politician realize but will not openly admit it in fear of being killed by their fellow serbs." (ben)

-- A rational thinking individual would then come to the conclusion that talks of partition is a realization of this situation. How you and roberto then irrationally blather on about Serbs not seeing the reality on the ground is beyond me. Additionally, how you both seem to miss the point of the article and talk about Albanians never being ruled by Serbia for ever and ever indicated you're missing the forest for the same trees you constantly obsess over.

Partition, in whatever capacity it's done in, implies cutting one's losses and walking away with a smaller piece of the pie but that which one has legitimate authority over. It effectively recognizes the impracticality of exerting authority over a piece of land that's populated by people that want nothing to do with Belgrade, and has been institutionally, politically, economically, and administratively outside their authority for some time. This should have been obvious reading this article, but for whatever reason you and roberto seemed to have read and interpreted something entirely different. Or better yet, you interpreted what you wanted to interpret to meet your own limited ways of thinking.

Tell me ben what you think - no better yet why you think - the north and/or any other Serb part of Kosovo should be part of Pristina's authority. Why should you think Albanians who don't have to submit to Serbia's authority should then enforce their own on Serbs? Particularly in areas they've never controlled and have no legitimate authority over?

By actually contemplating partition, Stefanovic has proven himself to be far more flexible and forward thinking than Tahiri ever could be since she's repeating the same unconstructive and worn out statements of stubborness from Pristina elites that are known to huff and puff but need someone else to produce results. In many respects she's been constantly reacting to events at these talks instead of being pro-active.

The so called Kosovo officials try to persuade people that they ostensibly control the territory of Kosovo,that they are a constituted state with its borders that cannot be trespassed and violated,and the state cannot be partitioned. According to the International law, that rule can be applied only to the sovereign countries,which means to the countries that are United Nations recognized countries. By the rule, no territory can be unitarily seceded; the ITJ ruling did not mean secession of Kosovo because the UN Security Council is the only entitled body which authorizes establishment of new states. So ,Kosovo cannot be a sovereign state.The volatility of UN Special Representatives in Kosovo often misguided people there. Their result is following. Instead of exercising an unbiased and balanced policy in multi-national Kosovo, they shut their eyes to the deepening ethnic crises. They downgraded the arising violence and crime against Serbs in Kosovo by ethnic Albanians. They exerted influence-peddling policy ,so every whim by Albanians was fulfilled. So their expectations are great. They are trying to impose unrealistic whims in their negotiations as if they were a sovereign, UN recognized state.

You definitely have a very Serbian way of looking at things, not right but still very Serbian.

I suspect the statement was meant to piss off the albos into break off talks because even the serb team negotiator wants this to fail as well as others within the current government. Its the EU which is pushing this dialogue on both side of the table. But IMHO its a waste of time all parties involved know it. Bring in MUP into northern KiM and around all the monasteries and serbs will be protected from the albs.

Ben,

Kosovo independent? Well, please check 1244 then. It is still valid!

By the way: is Abkahzia indepdendent? Taiwan? Ossetia?
No double standards please!

Looking at Tahiri's picture, I start to think that she is the physical embodiment of Kosovo's screwy politics or the map. Notice how she wears a red neck tie (and different colored ones on different occasions)? Is it to hide the bolts that keep her together or rather her head and her body that represent the different parts of Pristina's mafia clans? Maybe it is simply the join of the latex suit with someone else entirely underneath it. Or, and this is my favorite, she the neck covering represents the river Ibar... If that were the case, then on second thoughts the kosovo albanians can keep the head...

If Serbia offers Preshevo Velley in exchange of North Mitrovica and the recognision of Kosovo from Serbia or at least allowing Kosovo to have UN seat without formal recongision,I agree.Otherwise the partition of North Mitrovica in exchange of nothing, is not an option.Tahiri is right.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 April 2011 16:58)

You give me your house and bank account number and I'll think about it. I'll have your color tv too.

I have been reading all of these comments, and I honestly don't see how Albanians still believe firmly that Kosovo is a fully independent and sovereign. How can it be a sovereign independent when:

1. 30% of its territory is under direct control of Serbia (Northern Kosovo, Gracanica, Strpce, Klokot, Partes, Novo Brdo, Ranilug, Vucitrn)
2. 60% of the worlds sovereign states refuse to recognise it as anything else but a Serbian province.
3. Kosovo is not allowed to enter any international institutions such as
the UN, EU, etc. until Serbia and Russia recognize it, which will clearly never happen.
4. Kosovo is still under Resoltuion 1244 which guarantees Serbia's sovereignty over the province and is still in effect.
5. Half of Kosovo's border is with Serbia, which recognizes Kosovo as its province.

I honestly don't see how it can be independent of Serbia. Kosovo can not prosper and move on until the Officials in Pristina come to a mutual agreement with Serbia over the future status of Kosovo. Until then Serbia will continue to prevent Kosovo from joining the international community. It will also not allow it to join any international organization such as the UN and EU due to support from Russia, China, India, and the 5 EU countries which refuse to recognise the Albanian UDI. Without joining the international community and these organizations Kosovo will remain a black-hole, but most importantly it will firmly remain within Serbia legally even though Serbia doesn't control 2/3 of the province. But isn't that what Serbia wanted? Serbia always said that it did not want to control the lives of the Albanians but only wanted to preserve its territorial integrity. Serbia has the Albanians right where it wants them, they are controlling their own lives but Kosovo is still legally within Serbia. You have to be blind not to see that Serbia's plan "More than autonomy, Less than Independence" is in effect. Any dialogue with the Albanians would only make gains for Serbia because Serbia already has Kosovo exactly where it wants it. Soon the Albanians will come to their senses after they see that independence from Serbia can not be successfully achieved. They will soon come back to the negotiating table after they find out they are unable to join the EU due to Serbian, Spanish, Greek, Romanian, Slovakian, and Cypriot opposition. Or they can remain hard-headed and stay at a 40% unemployment rate, high inflation, and no forseeable future. Mark my words the Albanians will come back to the negotiating table after they realize that without Serbia's say, Kosovo has no future.

Roberto wrote:


"Thank you ben, as usual. edita tahiri is showing herself a strong negotiator, a canny representative for our side."
===========================

Our side? Are you finally going to admit that you are Albanian?