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Wednesday, 20.04.2011.

09:29

“Albanians trying to erase Serbia from Kosovo”

The Albanian side is so far not showing readiness to relax their stance in the talks on Kosovo, said head of Serbia's negotiating team Borislav Stefanović.

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Peggy

pre 13 godina

1. Actually, erasing serbs from balkans would be a greater idea...slavs don't belong in balkans, once greeks turn to their pagan roots and get free from abrahmic ideologies, balkans will be on right path, it won't take long when Germany gets fed up of supporting EU ...
(iliri, 24 April 2011 08:32)
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Serbs and other slavs don't belong in the Balkans but you do. Interesting. So who are you? You are not Illyrian that much we know but then who could you be?
Why don't we just tell all the Slavs to pack up and leave. That goes for quite a few countries there. Where do you tell the Poles to go? Where did they come from? How about your beloved Croatians? Where are they going to go?
I think it's Albanians who should pack up and go back. Easier to get rid of one lot that all the Slavs isn't it?

iliri

pre 13 godina

Actually, erasing serbs from balkans would be a greater idea...slavs don't belong in balkans, once greeks turn to their pagan roots and get free from abrahmic ideologies, balkans will be on right path, it won't take long when Germany gets fed up of supporting EU ...

Simpatiku_gj

pre 13 godina

Ian,

If i were you, i would storm into The University of Bangor and demand a refund.

You got ripped off!!
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 17:57)

Why? Because he did not study in serbian language so everyone in the world could understand him? Or probably because he did not take any course on serbian "heroism" of marching to Kosovo after Russia paved the way?

icj1

pre 13 godina

Look around Kosovo, its history is nothing but Serbia, thats like saying Judaism has no place in Jerusalem or Islam no place in Mecca.
(New Zealander, 20 April 2011 13:44)

Nobody is saying that… What we are saying is that the Orthodox Churh has its place in Kosovo, the same way that Judaism has its place in Jerusalem and Islam in Mecca. What does not have a place in Kosovo anymore is the State of Serbia.



Why do you think the Russians agreed to Resolution 1974 no fly zone over Libya? Was it because they were afraid of the United States of Idiots or NATO? No it’s because a deal has been done. You do recall something called Georgia? Well the Russians were not afraid to take away a large chunk and that was with NATO on the doorstep.
(sj, 20 April 2011 14:18)

Dude, Russia is not there to always say the opposite of what US says. If the Arab league and the Libyans themselves asked for the UNSC to approve 1974, why would Russia be against? Just to be the spoiling child and take the blame for the hundreds or thousands that would have been slaughtered in Benghazi ?!



It's difficult for the albanians to claim Kosovo when they have no proof of ownership.
(MikeC, 20 April 2011 17:08)

I apologize for my ignorance, but do the Serbs have deeds of ownership from whoever owned the land prior to them


That's why albanians burned and blew up hundreds of serbian churches and monasteries during the riots in 2004. Albanians did the same during WW2. The aim was to erase all proof to whom Kosovo really belongs, the Serbian nation. As long as we have our monasteries and churches Kosovo can never belong to anyone else.
(MikeC, 20 April 2011 17:08)

I apologize, but the churches and monasteries, even in Serbia, belong to the Orthodox Church, not Serbia. I’ve not heard of any plan by Serbia or anybody else to nationalize them. So, as long as there are monasteries and churches in Kosovo, that means that the Orthodox Church has some property in Kosovo, and it will remain Church’s property for as long as the owner, the Church, so wishes.



Serbia however, has shown to be strong enough to withstand 78 days of criminal bombings and stay free and sovereign in the greatest part of the republic of Serbia´s territory.
(Jovan, 20 April 2011 17:24)

Nobody intended to send troops in Serbia (ex Kosovo). So if that’s what Serbia fought for 78 days, I’m sorry to let you know that it was an effort wasted for nothing.



the NATO-aggressors have rather signed the Kumanovo-agreement than to send ground-troops. and I think they knew why they avoided fighting Serbia on the ground.
(Jovan, 20 April 2011 17:24)

Because they did not want to have any casualty. Within 3 months they achieved their goal to have the Serbian forces leave Kosovo without any war casualty on their side. So why should they have fought Serbia on the ground ?! For the fun of it ?



Gasoline prices are above $4 per gallon. In big, bad washington, it is $5 per gallon. Your big, tough protector is bankrupt - the military budget and usaid are big targets for cuts. And you keep asking for money - "kosovo" will be thrown out into the garbage soon.
(JohnBoy, 20 April 2011 19:13)

Wow, $4/gallon…. Man that’s cheaper than what it sells for in Serbia…! (add to that the fact that the average american earns much more than the averafe serb)

lowe

pre 13 godina

"In difference from Serbia the albanians have never had any support from a big country. Because of that our neighbours, greeks,serbs,monegrin and macedonians took advantage of our position and have attacked our people and occupyed our land. Kosovo, Chameria, western macedonia and south Montenegro are all albanian land. When the ottomans left all our neighbours knew that we were weak and attacked us cowardly. This is somthing we albanians will never forget.


Because of our hostile neighbours albanians know that the only way for us to keep our countrys safe is to arm our self just like Israel. This will happend with US support because US needs an strong Albania in the Balkans to stop Russians to get to the adriatic sea. That is why US demanded Montengro to be independent and close its ties with Serbia. The other front is Croatia and Bosnia.


And how are we going to arm our salf ? With hard work and US support. We are the Israel in the Balkans for US and US will allways support Kosovo as independent because US dosent bow down to Serbian and Russian pressure.


So indpendent Kosovo is secured!
(Demi, 20 April 2011 19:19) "


Demi,

In your first paragraph that I have quoted, you claimed that Albanians never had the support of any big country. Obviously you forgot the Yankees ......

Anyway much of the rest your tirade contradicted that first paragraph when you talked about Yankee support for you guys ...... you should make up your mind once and for all whether you Albanians have or did not have big countries' support and stop contradicting yourself over and over again.

You talk about arming yourselves ...... are you sure you are allowed to that by your masters? Can you even afford to do so on your own finances? Or are you expecting the Yankees to eagerly bankroll your missiles and jet fighters and tanks etc etc? Do you think they are flushed with cash right now? Read the news and get real!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

well, it seems our dear k-albanian friend Arti is either too young to remember, or he is simply not capable of understanding what took place in KiM in ´99 and before.

my dear k-albanian friend, the Yugoslav Army wiped this toy-army out, that isn´t in question at all. the problem was, that this army of chicken-thieves, once they ran away, came back after the yugoslav forces had withdrawn again. that was a clear breach of the regulations that were agreed upon between the international community and the one and only legitimate political body, namely the SRJ , or simply said Yugoslavia.

so, there is no discussion about wiping out an " army " of chickenthieves, that would not be a greater obstacle for the serbian armed forces, no ... the task is to bring peace and security back to its southern province.

mislead kiddies, dreaming of a greater albanian state, will certainly not understand that, since they are obviously not able to see clearly with their eyes that there is no such thing like a "kosova-nation" or a real legitimate state at least.

you are reduced to your dreams, my dear. and what this british dude wrote is pretty much the reality for you.

you don´t like it, I can see it from the length of your response and the ammount of pseudo-arguments you´re bringing up, but.... don´t worry, all will be fine, once Serbia takes over control again. because, always remember, it´s serbian ground, you´re walking on! historically, legally, morally and politically.

I agree with the "Brit" how you called him, let´s just see what future brings! Serbia has an economy and an army. and the US will leave, sooner or later. it´s not over. oh no...

Wally

pre 13 godina

Arti- thats where you are wrong. it is not defeatinga entire people. it is defeating the criminal enterprise running Kosovo today. Admmittedly most Kalbs friendly to Serbs have already been killed, but there are still some left i am sure, or at least willing to allow serbia to maintain it;'s ties to kosovo.

Top

pre 13 godina

“The dialogue is stalled by the Serbian side's unwillingness to accept European standards in solving open issues,” she pointed out.

Somehow funny to hear those words from a Kosovarian politician, since Kosovo surely is the 'country'(?) with is farthest away from any European standard.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Ian,

If i were you, i would storm into The University of Bangor and demand a refund.

You got ripped off!!
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 17:57)

Why? Because my opinions differ to yours? You're ridiculous.

arti

pre 13 godina

"The reason you should be worried about Serbia in the longer (much longer) term is that Serbia has an economy and an army. You have neither. Soldiers - real ones, not the internet warriors who come posing around on here - will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you."

Yeah, solders will beat terrorists, but they can't bean an entire people. That is the reason whay there's no serb solders today in Kosova, but Albanians are still there and independent of Serbia. And remember Serbian army was fighting KLA for full two year before NATO intervened, if they were so strong why didn't they wipe it out before NATO would even get a chance to get involved. Please provide a pathetic school playground excuse here.

And Yugoslavia had an even bigger economy and army, and was much stonger diplomatically than Serbia ever will. And yet, in over 80 years it was not able to subjugate Albanians, nor fully pacify Kosova, that was in a perpetual state of conflict, until Serbia was kicked out. Not even fascist regimes like Milosevic's or Rankovic's were able to entirely shut Albanians down, what makes you think Serbia ever will.

The genie is out of the bottle Brit, you can't put it back in. No people that have experienced freedom, will ever go back to live under slavery. You brought solders as an argument, but that has been tested and failed many times before. Would you as a Brit be willing to go and die to bring India back into the British fold? Than what do you expect from Serbian solders? Time for your camp to realize that the Serbian army can't bring Kosova back into Serbia and lay that argument to rest forever.

Demi

pre 13 godina

To all who commented me,


Serbia is what it is because of Russian support trough decades. Russia made Serbia autonomus inside the ottoman rule so serbs could enjoy rights and keep their religion. And it was also Russia who made Serbia independent from the ottomans. If Russia would not have existed then Serbia would not exist at all.

In difference from Serbia the albanians have never had any support from a big country. Because of that our neighbours, greeks,serbs,monegrin and macedonians took advantage of our position and have attacked our people and occupyed our land. Kosovo, Chameria, western macedonia and south Montenegro are all albanian land. When the ottomans left all our neighbours knew that we were weak and attacked us cowardly. This is somthing we albanians will never forget.


Because of our hostile neighbours albanians know that the only way for us to keep our countrys safe is to arm our self just like Israel. This will happend with US support because US needs an strong Albania in the Balkans to stop Russians to get to the adriatic sea. That is why US demanded Montengro to be independent and close its ties with Serbia. The other front is Croatia and Bosnia.


And how are we going to arm our salf ? With hard work and US support. We are the Israel in the Balkans for US and US will allways support Kosovo as independent because US dosent bow down to Serbian and Russian pressure.


So indpendent Kosovo is secured!

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Just playing into Serbia's hands. The us debt has hit $14,300,000,000,000. Gasoline prices are above $4 per gallon. In big, bad washington, it is $5 per gallon. Your big, tough protector is bankrupt - the military budget and usaid are big targets for cuts. And you keep asking for money - "kosovo" will be thrown out into the garbage soon.

ben

pre 13 godina

will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you.
(The Brit, 20 April 2011 17:24)

so the Serbian army that should come in my house is an army with sodliers and me staying in my home I am a terrorist???

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Ian,

Did you attain a degree from the University of Prishtina?

Let's get one thing straight here. The 1999 war campaign was about the USA vs Serbia. It was the USA that forced thousands of Serbians to flee their homeland of Kosovo.

It was the USA that instructed the Kosovo Albanians on how and when to claim independence from Serbia. It is the USA that currently instructs and hand picks Kosovarian politicians.

The only credit Albanians can possibly receive, is the destruction of Serbian culture, religion and history from the territory of Kosovo.

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 15:32)

No I attained a degree from the University of Bangor and I'm not an Albanian.

Also I fail to see what your comment has to do with my comment or what it has to do with the article. It is irrelevant gibberish.

MikeC

pre 13 godina

“Albanians trying to erase Serbia from Kosovo”

Ever since serbs accepted albanians into Kosovo they have tried to expell the serbs from their homeland and claim it as their own. It's just the albanians way: what's yours today will be mine tomorrow. It's difficult for the albanians to claim Kosovo when they have no proof of ownership. That's why albanians burned and blew up hundreds of serbian churches and monasteries during the riots in 2004. Albanians did the same during WW2. The aim was to erase all proof to whom Kosovo really belongs, the Serbian nation. As long as we have our monasteries and churches Kosovo can never belong to anyone else.

ivan

pre 13 godina

Let me tell you something Mr. Stefanovic. Serbs knew that they had no future there even when Milosevic's army was occupying Kosovo. Serbs where selling their homes for a very high price just so they can go to Serbia and buy three homes with that money. Now that Kosovo in independent changes for Serbs to have a bright future in Kosovo are not so good.

The Brit

pre 13 godina

Where would Serbia be without Russian support?? We albanians have americans who make us tough and you have russians. Lets see who is stronger. If Serbia would not have Russian support then Serbia would be in Siberia and not in the Balkans.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 16:47)

Or to put it another way, "my dad's bigger than your dad". Pathetic school playground stuff. Russia's influence is purely diplomatic these days - it's incapable of fighting a war more than 200 km from its own border, whatever the more delusional Serb nationalists might wish. America has more options militarily but is overstretched to breaking point even in the few theatres where it's actively engaged, one of the reasons for its diffidence about going into Libya.

The reason you should be worried about Serbia in the longer (much longer) term is that Serbia has an economy and an army. You have neither. Soldiers - real ones, not the internet warriors who come posing around on here - will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

comments like this one from Demi are so stupid, that I cannot believe it, actually. not only is Demi not capable of understanding that the K-albanians are completely DEPENDENT on the US of A, he is even acting as if he was a little nine-year-old, by trying to start a ping pong-discussion here... "we have the US, so what, you have the Russians" and then this incredibly stupid "Siberia"-nonsense... dude, grow up and face the reality - without the US you are dust in the wind.


Demi, you are nothing without the US, that is very likely the simple reality.

Serbia however, has shown to be strong enough to withstand 78 days of criminal bombings and stay free and sovereign in the greatest part of the republic of Serbia´s territory. the NATO-aggressors have rather signed the Kumanovo-agreement than to send ground-troops. and I think they knew why they avoided fighting Serbia on the ground.
only southern Serbia is temporarily occupied by the US and their allies.

but that will come to an end. and your childish behaviour makes it only come quicker.

Milan

pre 13 godina

"We arent trying, we already did.
(Pejoni, 20 April 2011 13:50)"

And you are so proud of it, aren't you little troll? "Kosova" is and will be a cursed place for Albanians.

Demi

pre 13 godina

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 15:32)


Where would Serbia be without Russian support?? We albanians have americans who make us tough and you have russians. Lets see who is stronger. If Serbia would not have Russian support then Serbia would be in Siberia and not in the Balkans.

So what is Serbia without Russia?? Nothing at all!!

lids

pre 13 godina

Well of course they are trying to erase Serbia from KiM-how else would organ traffickers and drug smuglers survive.
We have seen this week with croatia that genocide and ethnic cleansing do not work..
albanians are too stupid to realize tides are turning-and not in their favor..

miri

pre 13 godina

Ohh so cute. Mr. Stefanovic is complaining that he can't get through Albanian heads! Don't get depressed, you are no the only Serb who has achieve nothing when it comes to Kosova. Pretty much your superiors have done equally nothing. They always started with high hopes with "their fire breathing fists" on how advanced and smart and convincing they are and how they can outsmart every single Albanian, until they reach their demise and all we hear is whining that they can't convince Albanians to like them. Take your time Mr. Stefanovic, no-one expects you to solve anything as long as you bring your piece of constitution to the play.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Time to nudge them in the right direction by putting the organ-trafficking case slowy in motion. The prospect of being wanted by Interpol will bring them to reality.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 13 godina

Ian,

Did you attain a degree from the University of Prishtina?

Let's get one thing straight here. The 1999 war campaign was about the USA vs Serbia. It was the USA that forced thousands of Serbians to flee their homeland of Kosovo.

It was the USA that instructed the Kosovo Albanians on how and when to claim independence from Serbia. It is the USA that currently instructs and hand picks Kosovarian politicians.

The only credit Albanians can possibly receive, is the destruction of Serbian culture, religion and history from the territory of Kosovo.

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?

DODOSOUR

pre 13 godina

Hi Sj.

You raped your sister!
"If you doubt my information get out there and prove me wrong."

That is exactly what you are doing. Its not nice is it?

As for the rest, keep being a Serb and bring in all your phony distractions, maybe you feel closer to a goldfish with your logic.

As sad as the situation is, not a single Serb can debate with out using the same dirty tactics from afar. Only on B92 and Serbianna do Serbs get away with the constant lies, everywhere else they disappear like a bad rash after an antidote.
What is with the "semi-literate" thing? Are you implying to be ubermensch or something over and over again to make up for your lousy debate?

sj

pre 13 godina

(DODOSOUR, 20 April 2011 12:24)
What are you on about repeating what I have already written???? What is your point except for looking foolish making incoherent statements? If you doubt my information get out there and prove me wrong. I suggest that you read up on the latest census in Kosovo that your Albanians conducted and not Belgrade. And yes the US has sold your people out – you’re too expensive to continue to feed and they are already in their next quagmire called Libya.
Why do you think the Russians agreed to Resolution 1974 no fly zone over Libya? Was it because they were afraid of the United States of Idiots or NATO? No it’s because a deal has been done. You do recall something called Georgia? Well the Russians were not afraid to take away a large chunk and that was with NATO on the doorstep.
You have just shown that there are too many semi-literate Albanians walking this earth and you are one of them. Here is some advice, if you can’t express yourself properly don’t post.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"K.serbs can stay in Kosovo but Serbia as a state is out of Kosovo for good. I dont see no reason to have this dialoug when both sides have different views on everything. Its already a failed dialoug as long as Serbia dont face reality and recognize Kosovo as independent."

I agree with you on this one. The dialogue is not likely to achieve anything concrete.



"Kosovo just have to lay back and let the dialoug flow and in the end continue with its own on integrating N.Kosovo and form the Kosovo army. We need no agreements with Serbia because our road to Eu is far away and we dont care so much about it because majority EU countrys support us and are our friends."

Wow! You sound as though you are your own master. Wake up! It is the EU that is ruling you guys now courtesy of Eulex!

How do you guys intend to "integrate" N Kosovo? By repeating March 2004? Do you think the EU and Yankees will let you repeat that atrocity that will highlight to the whole world again the nature of "Kosova"'s multiethinic democracy?

"Serbia needs concrete solution at the dialoug to get EU candidate status. Anything else would mean failure to Tadic&co. Reamember nobody in EU will ask Kosovo to give up on its statehood and sovregnity. That means Serbia will have to accept any solutions offered by Prishtina and thank for them to enter EU some day."

I have a hunch Serbia will blame the likely failure of the talks on Prisitna's intransigence. And I wonder whether Tadic & Co will actually get a ringing endorsement from the Serbian electorate in the next election.


"When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 12:26)"

You mean you guys are actually allowed to form an army???? And in 2-3 years time???? When was the last time you checked this with your masters? And can you actually afford an army ..... without continued handouts from the West, that is. The West isn't exactly flushed with cash right now, I can't see them all eager to splurge more and more on "Kosova" of all places. At least there's massive oil reserves to die for in Libya ......

New Zealander

pre 13 godina

When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 12:26)

Even Thaci isnt stupid enough to do that, firstly Serbia already said theyd send in troops if that happened, and Secondly Putin offered Nukes should such a thing happen. What do you Mean Serbia has no Place in Kosovo? Look around Kosovo, its history is nothing but Serbia, thats like saying Judaism has no place in Jerusalem or Islam no place in Mecca.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Of course the Pristina team are trying to erase Belgrade from Kosovo. That is whole idea of independence. Stefanovic seems surprised by this. These technical negotiations are supposed to improve the lives of people in the region are not meant to even touch upon status per the EU-Serbia resolution.

Demi

pre 13 godina

No solution wich dosent respect the territorial integrety and sovregnity of Kosovo. Serbia wants to occupy Kosovo when we(albanians) offer them concrete solution based on the reality on the ground and reality on the international stage wich means 22 out of 27 countrys of the EU recognize Kosovo and its sovregnity.

K.serbs can stay in Kosovo but Serbia as a state is out of Kosovo for good. I dont see no reason to have this dialoug when both sides have different views on everything. Its already a failed dialoug as long as Serbia dont face reality and recognize Kosovo as independent.



Kosovo just have to lay back and let the dialoug flow and in the end continue with its own on integrating N.Kosovo and form the Kosovo army. We need no agreements with Serbia because our road to Eu is far away and we dont care so much about it because majority EU countrys support us and are our friends.

Serbia needs concrete solution at the dialoug to get EU candidate status. Anything else would mean failure to Tadic&co. Reamember nobody in EU will ask Kosovo to give up on its statehood and sovregnity. That means Serbia will have to accept any solutions offered by Prishtina and thank for them to enter EU some day.


When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.

DODOSOUR

pre 13 godina

"(sj, 20 April 2011 10:52)"

Hi Sj, Milosevic is dead but ultra ethnic nationalists are still around.

~half-literate Albanians
~97% of all Albanians are Muslims
~the US has sold them
~Albanians are living in Walt Disney’s fantasy
~US has sold them (x2)
~ Russian foreign minister was in Belgrade? Podgorica, Skopje and, Ljubljana.

lol and my personal favorite: ~Now we find out that there are only 1.1 million Albanians in Kosovo while the rest are Albanians from Albania.


All of the above are unjustified lies so you and your fellow ultras can feel secure for a day. But then again when you watch your government say all kinds of yapping old hag excuses, were else are you going to be educated?
I am just wondering who scared the living light out of you and forces you to lie, lie and lie more?

sj

pre 13 godina

Of course the Albanians wish to erase any trace of Serbs living or having lived in Kosovo. Why we even have some half-literate Albanians claiming on B92 that Serb Churches are actually Albanian in origin despite the fact that 97% of all Albanians are Muslims – hey, its only a small detail which can be worked out later.
On a more serious note the Albanians don’t feel the breeze of change blowing across the entire region nor do they realize that the US has sold them out for Libya; another western disaster waiting to fully unravel, lol. The Albanians are living in Walt Disney’s fantasy land and this is not in Anaheim California, but the Balkans.
Even the most hardened Albanian cannot come to terms that the US has sold them out from under their feet – why do you think the Russian foreign minister was in Belgrade? Perhaps for cevapi? Even some of Pristina’s newspapers are writing that these talks are for Belgrade’s benefit and not for the Albanians. Now we find out that there are only 1.1 million Albanians in Kosovo while the rest are Albanians from Albania seeking the streets paved with gold the US promise, ha, ha, ha.
Look at what is happening to Croatia and they are the apple of the Vatican’s eye. Now how valuable are the Albanians in Kosovo again?????? As the Brits say, cheap as chips.

ilirian doarsej

pre 13 godina

He told daily Blic that the Albanian side was trying to erase Serbia from Kosovo, "while we are offering them concrete solutions for regulating the current situation, because erasing Serbia from Kosovo is impossible."
Sr NATO erase serbia from kosovo in 1999 not albanians don´t bet up dead hours and we are in 2011

sj

pre 13 godina

Of course the Albanians wish to erase any trace of Serbs living or having lived in Kosovo. Why we even have some half-literate Albanians claiming on B92 that Serb Churches are actually Albanian in origin despite the fact that 97% of all Albanians are Muslims – hey, its only a small detail which can be worked out later.
On a more serious note the Albanians don’t feel the breeze of change blowing across the entire region nor do they realize that the US has sold them out for Libya; another western disaster waiting to fully unravel, lol. The Albanians are living in Walt Disney’s fantasy land and this is not in Anaheim California, but the Balkans.
Even the most hardened Albanian cannot come to terms that the US has sold them out from under their feet – why do you think the Russian foreign minister was in Belgrade? Perhaps for cevapi? Even some of Pristina’s newspapers are writing that these talks are for Belgrade’s benefit and not for the Albanians. Now we find out that there are only 1.1 million Albanians in Kosovo while the rest are Albanians from Albania seeking the streets paved with gold the US promise, ha, ha, ha.
Look at what is happening to Croatia and they are the apple of the Vatican’s eye. Now how valuable are the Albanians in Kosovo again?????? As the Brits say, cheap as chips.

DODOSOUR

pre 13 godina

"(sj, 20 April 2011 10:52)"

Hi Sj, Milosevic is dead but ultra ethnic nationalists are still around.

~half-literate Albanians
~97% of all Albanians are Muslims
~the US has sold them
~Albanians are living in Walt Disney’s fantasy
~US has sold them (x2)
~ Russian foreign minister was in Belgrade? Podgorica, Skopje and, Ljubljana.

lol and my personal favorite: ~Now we find out that there are only 1.1 million Albanians in Kosovo while the rest are Albanians from Albania.


All of the above are unjustified lies so you and your fellow ultras can feel secure for a day. But then again when you watch your government say all kinds of yapping old hag excuses, were else are you going to be educated?
I am just wondering who scared the living light out of you and forces you to lie, lie and lie more?

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Of course the Pristina team are trying to erase Belgrade from Kosovo. That is whole idea of independence. Stefanovic seems surprised by this. These technical negotiations are supposed to improve the lives of people in the region are not meant to even touch upon status per the EU-Serbia resolution.

Demi

pre 13 godina

No solution wich dosent respect the territorial integrety and sovregnity of Kosovo. Serbia wants to occupy Kosovo when we(albanians) offer them concrete solution based on the reality on the ground and reality on the international stage wich means 22 out of 27 countrys of the EU recognize Kosovo and its sovregnity.

K.serbs can stay in Kosovo but Serbia as a state is out of Kosovo for good. I dont see no reason to have this dialoug when both sides have different views on everything. Its already a failed dialoug as long as Serbia dont face reality and recognize Kosovo as independent.



Kosovo just have to lay back and let the dialoug flow and in the end continue with its own on integrating N.Kosovo and form the Kosovo army. We need no agreements with Serbia because our road to Eu is far away and we dont care so much about it because majority EU countrys support us and are our friends.

Serbia needs concrete solution at the dialoug to get EU candidate status. Anything else would mean failure to Tadic&co. Reamember nobody in EU will ask Kosovo to give up on its statehood and sovregnity. That means Serbia will have to accept any solutions offered by Prishtina and thank for them to enter EU some day.


When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Ian,

Did you attain a degree from the University of Prishtina?

Let's get one thing straight here. The 1999 war campaign was about the USA vs Serbia. It was the USA that forced thousands of Serbians to flee their homeland of Kosovo.

It was the USA that instructed the Kosovo Albanians on how and when to claim independence from Serbia. It is the USA that currently instructs and hand picks Kosovarian politicians.

The only credit Albanians can possibly receive, is the destruction of Serbian culture, religion and history from the territory of Kosovo.

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 15:32)

No I attained a degree from the University of Bangor and I'm not an Albanian.

Also I fail to see what your comment has to do with my comment or what it has to do with the article. It is irrelevant gibberish.

ilirian doarsej

pre 13 godina

He told daily Blic that the Albanian side was trying to erase Serbia from Kosovo, "while we are offering them concrete solutions for regulating the current situation, because erasing Serbia from Kosovo is impossible."
Sr NATO erase serbia from kosovo in 1999 not albanians don´t bet up dead hours and we are in 2011

Jovan

pre 13 godina

comments like this one from Demi are so stupid, that I cannot believe it, actually. not only is Demi not capable of understanding that the K-albanians are completely DEPENDENT on the US of A, he is even acting as if he was a little nine-year-old, by trying to start a ping pong-discussion here... "we have the US, so what, you have the Russians" and then this incredibly stupid "Siberia"-nonsense... dude, grow up and face the reality - without the US you are dust in the wind.


Demi, you are nothing without the US, that is very likely the simple reality.

Serbia however, has shown to be strong enough to withstand 78 days of criminal bombings and stay free and sovereign in the greatest part of the republic of Serbia´s territory. the NATO-aggressors have rather signed the Kumanovo-agreement than to send ground-troops. and I think they knew why they avoided fighting Serbia on the ground.
only southern Serbia is temporarily occupied by the US and their allies.

but that will come to an end. and your childish behaviour makes it only come quicker.

Top

pre 13 godina

“The dialogue is stalled by the Serbian side's unwillingness to accept European standards in solving open issues,” she pointed out.

Somehow funny to hear those words from a Kosovarian politician, since Kosovo surely is the 'country'(?) with is farthest away from any European standard.

DODOSOUR

pre 13 godina

Hi Sj.

You raped your sister!
"If you doubt my information get out there and prove me wrong."

That is exactly what you are doing. Its not nice is it?

As for the rest, keep being a Serb and bring in all your phony distractions, maybe you feel closer to a goldfish with your logic.

As sad as the situation is, not a single Serb can debate with out using the same dirty tactics from afar. Only on B92 and Serbianna do Serbs get away with the constant lies, everywhere else they disappear like a bad rash after an antidote.
What is with the "semi-literate" thing? Are you implying to be ubermensch or something over and over again to make up for your lousy debate?

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Ian,

If i were you, i would storm into The University of Bangor and demand a refund.

You got ripped off!!
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 17:57)

Why? Because my opinions differ to yours? You're ridiculous.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"K.serbs can stay in Kosovo but Serbia as a state is out of Kosovo for good. I dont see no reason to have this dialoug when both sides have different views on everything. Its already a failed dialoug as long as Serbia dont face reality and recognize Kosovo as independent."

I agree with you on this one. The dialogue is not likely to achieve anything concrete.



"Kosovo just have to lay back and let the dialoug flow and in the end continue with its own on integrating N.Kosovo and form the Kosovo army. We need no agreements with Serbia because our road to Eu is far away and we dont care so much about it because majority EU countrys support us and are our friends."

Wow! You sound as though you are your own master. Wake up! It is the EU that is ruling you guys now courtesy of Eulex!

How do you guys intend to "integrate" N Kosovo? By repeating March 2004? Do you think the EU and Yankees will let you repeat that atrocity that will highlight to the whole world again the nature of "Kosova"'s multiethinic democracy?

"Serbia needs concrete solution at the dialoug to get EU candidate status. Anything else would mean failure to Tadic&co. Reamember nobody in EU will ask Kosovo to give up on its statehood and sovregnity. That means Serbia will have to accept any solutions offered by Prishtina and thank for them to enter EU some day."

I have a hunch Serbia will blame the likely failure of the talks on Prisitna's intransigence. And I wonder whether Tadic & Co will actually get a ringing endorsement from the Serbian electorate in the next election.


"When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 12:26)"

You mean you guys are actually allowed to form an army???? And in 2-3 years time???? When was the last time you checked this with your masters? And can you actually afford an army ..... without continued handouts from the West, that is. The West isn't exactly flushed with cash right now, I can't see them all eager to splurge more and more on "Kosova" of all places. At least there's massive oil reserves to die for in Libya ......

Demi

pre 13 godina

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 15:32)


Where would Serbia be without Russian support?? We albanians have americans who make us tough and you have russians. Lets see who is stronger. If Serbia would not have Russian support then Serbia would be in Siberia and not in the Balkans.

So what is Serbia without Russia?? Nothing at all!!

lids

pre 13 godina

Well of course they are trying to erase Serbia from KiM-how else would organ traffickers and drug smuglers survive.
We have seen this week with croatia that genocide and ethnic cleansing do not work..
albanians are too stupid to realize tides are turning-and not in their favor..

The Brit

pre 13 godina

Where would Serbia be without Russian support?? We albanians have americans who make us tough and you have russians. Lets see who is stronger. If Serbia would not have Russian support then Serbia would be in Siberia and not in the Balkans.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 16:47)

Or to put it another way, "my dad's bigger than your dad". Pathetic school playground stuff. Russia's influence is purely diplomatic these days - it's incapable of fighting a war more than 200 km from its own border, whatever the more delusional Serb nationalists might wish. America has more options militarily but is overstretched to breaking point even in the few theatres where it's actively engaged, one of the reasons for its diffidence about going into Libya.

The reason you should be worried about Serbia in the longer (much longer) term is that Serbia has an economy and an army. You have neither. Soldiers - real ones, not the internet warriors who come posing around on here - will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you.

New Zealander

pre 13 godina

When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 12:26)

Even Thaci isnt stupid enough to do that, firstly Serbia already said theyd send in troops if that happened, and Secondly Putin offered Nukes should such a thing happen. What do you Mean Serbia has no Place in Kosovo? Look around Kosovo, its history is nothing but Serbia, thats like saying Judaism has no place in Jerusalem or Islam no place in Mecca.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Just playing into Serbia's hands. The us debt has hit $14,300,000,000,000. Gasoline prices are above $4 per gallon. In big, bad washington, it is $5 per gallon. Your big, tough protector is bankrupt - the military budget and usaid are big targets for cuts. And you keep asking for money - "kosovo" will be thrown out into the garbage soon.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 13 godina

Ian,

Did you attain a degree from the University of Prishtina?

Let's get one thing straight here. The 1999 war campaign was about the USA vs Serbia. It was the USA that forced thousands of Serbians to flee their homeland of Kosovo.

It was the USA that instructed the Kosovo Albanians on how and when to claim independence from Serbia. It is the USA that currently instructs and hand picks Kosovarian politicians.

The only credit Albanians can possibly receive, is the destruction of Serbian culture, religion and history from the territory of Kosovo.

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?

MikeC

pre 13 godina

“Albanians trying to erase Serbia from Kosovo”

Ever since serbs accepted albanians into Kosovo they have tried to expell the serbs from their homeland and claim it as their own. It's just the albanians way: what's yours today will be mine tomorrow. It's difficult for the albanians to claim Kosovo when they have no proof of ownership. That's why albanians burned and blew up hundreds of serbian churches and monasteries during the riots in 2004. Albanians did the same during WW2. The aim was to erase all proof to whom Kosovo really belongs, the Serbian nation. As long as we have our monasteries and churches Kosovo can never belong to anyone else.

sj

pre 13 godina

(DODOSOUR, 20 April 2011 12:24)
What are you on about repeating what I have already written???? What is your point except for looking foolish making incoherent statements? If you doubt my information get out there and prove me wrong. I suggest that you read up on the latest census in Kosovo that your Albanians conducted and not Belgrade. And yes the US has sold your people out – you’re too expensive to continue to feed and they are already in their next quagmire called Libya.
Why do you think the Russians agreed to Resolution 1974 no fly zone over Libya? Was it because they were afraid of the United States of Idiots or NATO? No it’s because a deal has been done. You do recall something called Georgia? Well the Russians were not afraid to take away a large chunk and that was with NATO on the doorstep.
You have just shown that there are too many semi-literate Albanians walking this earth and you are one of them. Here is some advice, if you can’t express yourself properly don’t post.

Milan

pre 13 godina

"We arent trying, we already did.
(Pejoni, 20 April 2011 13:50)"

And you are so proud of it, aren't you little troll? "Kosova" is and will be a cursed place for Albanians.

miri

pre 13 godina

Ohh so cute. Mr. Stefanovic is complaining that he can't get through Albanian heads! Don't get depressed, you are no the only Serb who has achieve nothing when it comes to Kosova. Pretty much your superiors have done equally nothing. They always started with high hopes with "their fire breathing fists" on how advanced and smart and convincing they are and how they can outsmart every single Albanian, until they reach their demise and all we hear is whining that they can't convince Albanians to like them. Take your time Mr. Stefanovic, no-one expects you to solve anything as long as you bring your piece of constitution to the play.

ivan

pre 13 godina

Let me tell you something Mr. Stefanovic. Serbs knew that they had no future there even when Milosevic's army was occupying Kosovo. Serbs where selling their homes for a very high price just so they can go to Serbia and buy three homes with that money. Now that Kosovo in independent changes for Serbs to have a bright future in Kosovo are not so good.

arti

pre 13 godina

"The reason you should be worried about Serbia in the longer (much longer) term is that Serbia has an economy and an army. You have neither. Soldiers - real ones, not the internet warriors who come posing around on here - will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you."

Yeah, solders will beat terrorists, but they can't bean an entire people. That is the reason whay there's no serb solders today in Kosova, but Albanians are still there and independent of Serbia. And remember Serbian army was fighting KLA for full two year before NATO intervened, if they were so strong why didn't they wipe it out before NATO would even get a chance to get involved. Please provide a pathetic school playground excuse here.

And Yugoslavia had an even bigger economy and army, and was much stonger diplomatically than Serbia ever will. And yet, in over 80 years it was not able to subjugate Albanians, nor fully pacify Kosova, that was in a perpetual state of conflict, until Serbia was kicked out. Not even fascist regimes like Milosevic's or Rankovic's were able to entirely shut Albanians down, what makes you think Serbia ever will.

The genie is out of the bottle Brit, you can't put it back in. No people that have experienced freedom, will ever go back to live under slavery. You brought solders as an argument, but that has been tested and failed many times before. Would you as a Brit be willing to go and die to bring India back into the British fold? Than what do you expect from Serbian solders? Time for your camp to realize that the Serbian army can't bring Kosova back into Serbia and lay that argument to rest forever.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Time to nudge them in the right direction by putting the organ-trafficking case slowy in motion. The prospect of being wanted by Interpol will bring them to reality.

Demi

pre 13 godina

To all who commented me,


Serbia is what it is because of Russian support trough decades. Russia made Serbia autonomus inside the ottoman rule so serbs could enjoy rights and keep their religion. And it was also Russia who made Serbia independent from the ottomans. If Russia would not have existed then Serbia would not exist at all.

In difference from Serbia the albanians have never had any support from a big country. Because of that our neighbours, greeks,serbs,monegrin and macedonians took advantage of our position and have attacked our people and occupyed our land. Kosovo, Chameria, western macedonia and south Montenegro are all albanian land. When the ottomans left all our neighbours knew that we were weak and attacked us cowardly. This is somthing we albanians will never forget.


Because of our hostile neighbours albanians know that the only way for us to keep our countrys safe is to arm our self just like Israel. This will happend with US support because US needs an strong Albania in the Balkans to stop Russians to get to the adriatic sea. That is why US demanded Montengro to be independent and close its ties with Serbia. The other front is Croatia and Bosnia.


And how are we going to arm our salf ? With hard work and US support. We are the Israel in the Balkans for US and US will allways support Kosovo as independent because US dosent bow down to Serbian and Russian pressure.


So indpendent Kosovo is secured!

ben

pre 13 godina

will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you.
(The Brit, 20 April 2011 17:24)

so the Serbian army that should come in my house is an army with sodliers and me staying in my home I am a terrorist???

Jovan

pre 13 godina

well, it seems our dear k-albanian friend Arti is either too young to remember, or he is simply not capable of understanding what took place in KiM in ´99 and before.

my dear k-albanian friend, the Yugoslav Army wiped this toy-army out, that isn´t in question at all. the problem was, that this army of chicken-thieves, once they ran away, came back after the yugoslav forces had withdrawn again. that was a clear breach of the regulations that were agreed upon between the international community and the one and only legitimate political body, namely the SRJ , or simply said Yugoslavia.

so, there is no discussion about wiping out an " army " of chickenthieves, that would not be a greater obstacle for the serbian armed forces, no ... the task is to bring peace and security back to its southern province.

mislead kiddies, dreaming of a greater albanian state, will certainly not understand that, since they are obviously not able to see clearly with their eyes that there is no such thing like a "kosova-nation" or a real legitimate state at least.

you are reduced to your dreams, my dear. and what this british dude wrote is pretty much the reality for you.

you don´t like it, I can see it from the length of your response and the ammount of pseudo-arguments you´re bringing up, but.... don´t worry, all will be fine, once Serbia takes over control again. because, always remember, it´s serbian ground, you´re walking on! historically, legally, morally and politically.

I agree with the "Brit" how you called him, let´s just see what future brings! Serbia has an economy and an army. and the US will leave, sooner or later. it´s not over. oh no...

Wally

pre 13 godina

Arti- thats where you are wrong. it is not defeatinga entire people. it is defeating the criminal enterprise running Kosovo today. Admmittedly most Kalbs friendly to Serbs have already been killed, but there are still some left i am sure, or at least willing to allow serbia to maintain it;'s ties to kosovo.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"In difference from Serbia the albanians have never had any support from a big country. Because of that our neighbours, greeks,serbs,monegrin and macedonians took advantage of our position and have attacked our people and occupyed our land. Kosovo, Chameria, western macedonia and south Montenegro are all albanian land. When the ottomans left all our neighbours knew that we were weak and attacked us cowardly. This is somthing we albanians will never forget.


Because of our hostile neighbours albanians know that the only way for us to keep our countrys safe is to arm our self just like Israel. This will happend with US support because US needs an strong Albania in the Balkans to stop Russians to get to the adriatic sea. That is why US demanded Montengro to be independent and close its ties with Serbia. The other front is Croatia and Bosnia.


And how are we going to arm our salf ? With hard work and US support. We are the Israel in the Balkans for US and US will allways support Kosovo as independent because US dosent bow down to Serbian and Russian pressure.


So indpendent Kosovo is secured!
(Demi, 20 April 2011 19:19) "


Demi,

In your first paragraph that I have quoted, you claimed that Albanians never had the support of any big country. Obviously you forgot the Yankees ......

Anyway much of the rest your tirade contradicted that first paragraph when you talked about Yankee support for you guys ...... you should make up your mind once and for all whether you Albanians have or did not have big countries' support and stop contradicting yourself over and over again.

You talk about arming yourselves ...... are you sure you are allowed to that by your masters? Can you even afford to do so on your own finances? Or are you expecting the Yankees to eagerly bankroll your missiles and jet fighters and tanks etc etc? Do you think they are flushed with cash right now? Read the news and get real!

icj1

pre 13 godina

Look around Kosovo, its history is nothing but Serbia, thats like saying Judaism has no place in Jerusalem or Islam no place in Mecca.
(New Zealander, 20 April 2011 13:44)

Nobody is saying that… What we are saying is that the Orthodox Churh has its place in Kosovo, the same way that Judaism has its place in Jerusalem and Islam in Mecca. What does not have a place in Kosovo anymore is the State of Serbia.



Why do you think the Russians agreed to Resolution 1974 no fly zone over Libya? Was it because they were afraid of the United States of Idiots or NATO? No it’s because a deal has been done. You do recall something called Georgia? Well the Russians were not afraid to take away a large chunk and that was with NATO on the doorstep.
(sj, 20 April 2011 14:18)

Dude, Russia is not there to always say the opposite of what US says. If the Arab league and the Libyans themselves asked for the UNSC to approve 1974, why would Russia be against? Just to be the spoiling child and take the blame for the hundreds or thousands that would have been slaughtered in Benghazi ?!



It's difficult for the albanians to claim Kosovo when they have no proof of ownership.
(MikeC, 20 April 2011 17:08)

I apologize for my ignorance, but do the Serbs have deeds of ownership from whoever owned the land prior to them


That's why albanians burned and blew up hundreds of serbian churches and monasteries during the riots in 2004. Albanians did the same during WW2. The aim was to erase all proof to whom Kosovo really belongs, the Serbian nation. As long as we have our monasteries and churches Kosovo can never belong to anyone else.
(MikeC, 20 April 2011 17:08)

I apologize, but the churches and monasteries, even in Serbia, belong to the Orthodox Church, not Serbia. I’ve not heard of any plan by Serbia or anybody else to nationalize them. So, as long as there are monasteries and churches in Kosovo, that means that the Orthodox Church has some property in Kosovo, and it will remain Church’s property for as long as the owner, the Church, so wishes.



Serbia however, has shown to be strong enough to withstand 78 days of criminal bombings and stay free and sovereign in the greatest part of the republic of Serbia´s territory.
(Jovan, 20 April 2011 17:24)

Nobody intended to send troops in Serbia (ex Kosovo). So if that’s what Serbia fought for 78 days, I’m sorry to let you know that it was an effort wasted for nothing.



the NATO-aggressors have rather signed the Kumanovo-agreement than to send ground-troops. and I think they knew why they avoided fighting Serbia on the ground.
(Jovan, 20 April 2011 17:24)

Because they did not want to have any casualty. Within 3 months they achieved their goal to have the Serbian forces leave Kosovo without any war casualty on their side. So why should they have fought Serbia on the ground ?! For the fun of it ?



Gasoline prices are above $4 per gallon. In big, bad washington, it is $5 per gallon. Your big, tough protector is bankrupt - the military budget and usaid are big targets for cuts. And you keep asking for money - "kosovo" will be thrown out into the garbage soon.
(JohnBoy, 20 April 2011 19:13)

Wow, $4/gallon…. Man that’s cheaper than what it sells for in Serbia…! (add to that the fact that the average american earns much more than the averafe serb)

Simpatiku_gj

pre 13 godina

Ian,

If i were you, i would storm into The University of Bangor and demand a refund.

You got ripped off!!
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 17:57)

Why? Because he did not study in serbian language so everyone in the world could understand him? Or probably because he did not take any course on serbian "heroism" of marching to Kosovo after Russia paved the way?

iliri

pre 13 godina

Actually, erasing serbs from balkans would be a greater idea...slavs don't belong in balkans, once greeks turn to their pagan roots and get free from abrahmic ideologies, balkans will be on right path, it won't take long when Germany gets fed up of supporting EU ...

Peggy

pre 13 godina

1. Actually, erasing serbs from balkans would be a greater idea...slavs don't belong in balkans, once greeks turn to their pagan roots and get free from abrahmic ideologies, balkans will be on right path, it won't take long when Germany gets fed up of supporting EU ...
(iliri, 24 April 2011 08:32)
===============================

Serbs and other slavs don't belong in the Balkans but you do. Interesting. So who are you? You are not Illyrian that much we know but then who could you be?
Why don't we just tell all the Slavs to pack up and leave. That goes for quite a few countries there. Where do you tell the Poles to go? Where did they come from? How about your beloved Croatians? Where are they going to go?
I think it's Albanians who should pack up and go back. Easier to get rid of one lot that all the Slavs isn't it?

sj

pre 13 godina

Of course the Albanians wish to erase any trace of Serbs living or having lived in Kosovo. Why we even have some half-literate Albanians claiming on B92 that Serb Churches are actually Albanian in origin despite the fact that 97% of all Albanians are Muslims – hey, its only a small detail which can be worked out later.
On a more serious note the Albanians don’t feel the breeze of change blowing across the entire region nor do they realize that the US has sold them out for Libya; another western disaster waiting to fully unravel, lol. The Albanians are living in Walt Disney’s fantasy land and this is not in Anaheim California, but the Balkans.
Even the most hardened Albanian cannot come to terms that the US has sold them out from under their feet – why do you think the Russian foreign minister was in Belgrade? Perhaps for cevapi? Even some of Pristina’s newspapers are writing that these talks are for Belgrade’s benefit and not for the Albanians. Now we find out that there are only 1.1 million Albanians in Kosovo while the rest are Albanians from Albania seeking the streets paved with gold the US promise, ha, ha, ha.
Look at what is happening to Croatia and they are the apple of the Vatican’s eye. Now how valuable are the Albanians in Kosovo again?????? As the Brits say, cheap as chips.

Demi

pre 13 godina

No solution wich dosent respect the territorial integrety and sovregnity of Kosovo. Serbia wants to occupy Kosovo when we(albanians) offer them concrete solution based on the reality on the ground and reality on the international stage wich means 22 out of 27 countrys of the EU recognize Kosovo and its sovregnity.

K.serbs can stay in Kosovo but Serbia as a state is out of Kosovo for good. I dont see no reason to have this dialoug when both sides have different views on everything. Its already a failed dialoug as long as Serbia dont face reality and recognize Kosovo as independent.



Kosovo just have to lay back and let the dialoug flow and in the end continue with its own on integrating N.Kosovo and form the Kosovo army. We need no agreements with Serbia because our road to Eu is far away and we dont care so much about it because majority EU countrys support us and are our friends.

Serbia needs concrete solution at the dialoug to get EU candidate status. Anything else would mean failure to Tadic&co. Reamember nobody in EU will ask Kosovo to give up on its statehood and sovregnity. That means Serbia will have to accept any solutions offered by Prishtina and thank for them to enter EU some day.


When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.

ilirian doarsej

pre 13 godina

He told daily Blic that the Albanian side was trying to erase Serbia from Kosovo, "while we are offering them concrete solutions for regulating the current situation, because erasing Serbia from Kosovo is impossible."
Sr NATO erase serbia from kosovo in 1999 not albanians don´t bet up dead hours and we are in 2011

New Zealander

pre 13 godina

When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 12:26)

Even Thaci isnt stupid enough to do that, firstly Serbia already said theyd send in troops if that happened, and Secondly Putin offered Nukes should such a thing happen. What do you Mean Serbia has no Place in Kosovo? Look around Kosovo, its history is nothing but Serbia, thats like saying Judaism has no place in Jerusalem or Islam no place in Mecca.

sj

pre 13 godina

(DODOSOUR, 20 April 2011 12:24)
What are you on about repeating what I have already written???? What is your point except for looking foolish making incoherent statements? If you doubt my information get out there and prove me wrong. I suggest that you read up on the latest census in Kosovo that your Albanians conducted and not Belgrade. And yes the US has sold your people out – you’re too expensive to continue to feed and they are already in their next quagmire called Libya.
Why do you think the Russians agreed to Resolution 1974 no fly zone over Libya? Was it because they were afraid of the United States of Idiots or NATO? No it’s because a deal has been done. You do recall something called Georgia? Well the Russians were not afraid to take away a large chunk and that was with NATO on the doorstep.
You have just shown that there are too many semi-literate Albanians walking this earth and you are one of them. Here is some advice, if you can’t express yourself properly don’t post.

Milan

pre 13 godina

"We arent trying, we already did.
(Pejoni, 20 April 2011 13:50)"

And you are so proud of it, aren't you little troll? "Kosova" is and will be a cursed place for Albanians.

MikeC

pre 13 godina

“Albanians trying to erase Serbia from Kosovo”

Ever since serbs accepted albanians into Kosovo they have tried to expell the serbs from their homeland and claim it as their own. It's just the albanians way: what's yours today will be mine tomorrow. It's difficult for the albanians to claim Kosovo when they have no proof of ownership. That's why albanians burned and blew up hundreds of serbian churches and monasteries during the riots in 2004. Albanians did the same during WW2. The aim was to erase all proof to whom Kosovo really belongs, the Serbian nation. As long as we have our monasteries and churches Kosovo can never belong to anyone else.

The Brit

pre 13 godina

Where would Serbia be without Russian support?? We albanians have americans who make us tough and you have russians. Lets see who is stronger. If Serbia would not have Russian support then Serbia would be in Siberia and not in the Balkans.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 16:47)

Or to put it another way, "my dad's bigger than your dad". Pathetic school playground stuff. Russia's influence is purely diplomatic these days - it's incapable of fighting a war more than 200 km from its own border, whatever the more delusional Serb nationalists might wish. America has more options militarily but is overstretched to breaking point even in the few theatres where it's actively engaged, one of the reasons for its diffidence about going into Libya.

The reason you should be worried about Serbia in the longer (much longer) term is that Serbia has an economy and an army. You have neither. Soldiers - real ones, not the internet warriors who come posing around on here - will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you.

DODOSOUR

pre 13 godina

"(sj, 20 April 2011 10:52)"

Hi Sj, Milosevic is dead but ultra ethnic nationalists are still around.

~half-literate Albanians
~97% of all Albanians are Muslims
~the US has sold them
~Albanians are living in Walt Disney’s fantasy
~US has sold them (x2)
~ Russian foreign minister was in Belgrade? Podgorica, Skopje and, Ljubljana.

lol and my personal favorite: ~Now we find out that there are only 1.1 million Albanians in Kosovo while the rest are Albanians from Albania.


All of the above are unjustified lies so you and your fellow ultras can feel secure for a day. But then again when you watch your government say all kinds of yapping old hag excuses, were else are you going to be educated?
I am just wondering who scared the living light out of you and forces you to lie, lie and lie more?

Jovan

pre 13 godina

comments like this one from Demi are so stupid, that I cannot believe it, actually. not only is Demi not capable of understanding that the K-albanians are completely DEPENDENT on the US of A, he is even acting as if he was a little nine-year-old, by trying to start a ping pong-discussion here... "we have the US, so what, you have the Russians" and then this incredibly stupid "Siberia"-nonsense... dude, grow up and face the reality - without the US you are dust in the wind.


Demi, you are nothing without the US, that is very likely the simple reality.

Serbia however, has shown to be strong enough to withstand 78 days of criminal bombings and stay free and sovereign in the greatest part of the republic of Serbia´s territory. the NATO-aggressors have rather signed the Kumanovo-agreement than to send ground-troops. and I think they knew why they avoided fighting Serbia on the ground.
only southern Serbia is temporarily occupied by the US and their allies.

but that will come to an end. and your childish behaviour makes it only come quicker.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"K.serbs can stay in Kosovo but Serbia as a state is out of Kosovo for good. I dont see no reason to have this dialoug when both sides have different views on everything. Its already a failed dialoug as long as Serbia dont face reality and recognize Kosovo as independent."

I agree with you on this one. The dialogue is not likely to achieve anything concrete.



"Kosovo just have to lay back and let the dialoug flow and in the end continue with its own on integrating N.Kosovo and form the Kosovo army. We need no agreements with Serbia because our road to Eu is far away and we dont care so much about it because majority EU countrys support us and are our friends."

Wow! You sound as though you are your own master. Wake up! It is the EU that is ruling you guys now courtesy of Eulex!

How do you guys intend to "integrate" N Kosovo? By repeating March 2004? Do you think the EU and Yankees will let you repeat that atrocity that will highlight to the whole world again the nature of "Kosova"'s multiethinic democracy?

"Serbia needs concrete solution at the dialoug to get EU candidate status. Anything else would mean failure to Tadic&co. Reamember nobody in EU will ask Kosovo to give up on its statehood and sovregnity. That means Serbia will have to accept any solutions offered by Prishtina and thank for them to enter EU some day."

I have a hunch Serbia will blame the likely failure of the talks on Prisitna's intransigence. And I wonder whether Tadic & Co will actually get a ringing endorsement from the Serbian electorate in the next election.


"When Kosovo army is formed in the next 2-3 years all serbs will understand that Serbia has no place in Kosovo and never will.
(Demi, 20 April 2011 12:26)"

You mean you guys are actually allowed to form an army???? And in 2-3 years time???? When was the last time you checked this with your masters? And can you actually afford an army ..... without continued handouts from the West, that is. The West isn't exactly flushed with cash right now, I can't see them all eager to splurge more and more on "Kosova" of all places. At least there's massive oil reserves to die for in Libya ......

lids

pre 13 godina

Well of course they are trying to erase Serbia from KiM-how else would organ traffickers and drug smuglers survive.
We have seen this week with croatia that genocide and ethnic cleansing do not work..
albanians are too stupid to realize tides are turning-and not in their favor..

Demi

pre 13 godina

To all who commented me,


Serbia is what it is because of Russian support trough decades. Russia made Serbia autonomus inside the ottoman rule so serbs could enjoy rights and keep their religion. And it was also Russia who made Serbia independent from the ottomans. If Russia would not have existed then Serbia would not exist at all.

In difference from Serbia the albanians have never had any support from a big country. Because of that our neighbours, greeks,serbs,monegrin and macedonians took advantage of our position and have attacked our people and occupyed our land. Kosovo, Chameria, western macedonia and south Montenegro are all albanian land. When the ottomans left all our neighbours knew that we were weak and attacked us cowardly. This is somthing we albanians will never forget.


Because of our hostile neighbours albanians know that the only way for us to keep our countrys safe is to arm our self just like Israel. This will happend with US support because US needs an strong Albania in the Balkans to stop Russians to get to the adriatic sea. That is why US demanded Montengro to be independent and close its ties with Serbia. The other front is Croatia and Bosnia.


And how are we going to arm our salf ? With hard work and US support. We are the Israel in the Balkans for US and US will allways support Kosovo as independent because US dosent bow down to Serbian and Russian pressure.


So indpendent Kosovo is secured!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Of course the Pristina team are trying to erase Belgrade from Kosovo. That is whole idea of independence. Stefanovic seems surprised by this. These technical negotiations are supposed to improve the lives of people in the region are not meant to even touch upon status per the EU-Serbia resolution.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 13 godina

Ian,

Did you attain a degree from the University of Prishtina?

Let's get one thing straight here. The 1999 war campaign was about the USA vs Serbia. It was the USA that forced thousands of Serbians to flee their homeland of Kosovo.

It was the USA that instructed the Kosovo Albanians on how and when to claim independence from Serbia. It is the USA that currently instructs and hand picks Kosovarian politicians.

The only credit Albanians can possibly receive, is the destruction of Serbian culture, religion and history from the territory of Kosovo.

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?

Demi

pre 13 godina

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 15:32)


Where would Serbia be without Russian support?? We albanians have americans who make us tough and you have russians. Lets see who is stronger. If Serbia would not have Russian support then Serbia would be in Siberia and not in the Balkans.

So what is Serbia without Russia?? Nothing at all!!

highduke

pre 13 godina

Time to nudge them in the right direction by putting the organ-trafficking case slowy in motion. The prospect of being wanted by Interpol will bring them to reality.

ivan

pre 13 godina

Let me tell you something Mr. Stefanovic. Serbs knew that they had no future there even when Milosevic's army was occupying Kosovo. Serbs where selling their homes for a very high price just so they can go to Serbia and buy three homes with that money. Now that Kosovo in independent changes for Serbs to have a bright future in Kosovo are not so good.

arti

pre 13 godina

"The reason you should be worried about Serbia in the longer (much longer) term is that Serbia has an economy and an army. You have neither. Soldiers - real ones, not the internet warriors who come posing around on here - will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you."

Yeah, solders will beat terrorists, but they can't bean an entire people. That is the reason whay there's no serb solders today in Kosova, but Albanians are still there and independent of Serbia. And remember Serbian army was fighting KLA for full two year before NATO intervened, if they were so strong why didn't they wipe it out before NATO would even get a chance to get involved. Please provide a pathetic school playground excuse here.

And Yugoslavia had an even bigger economy and army, and was much stonger diplomatically than Serbia ever will. And yet, in over 80 years it was not able to subjugate Albanians, nor fully pacify Kosova, that was in a perpetual state of conflict, until Serbia was kicked out. Not even fascist regimes like Milosevic's or Rankovic's were able to entirely shut Albanians down, what makes you think Serbia ever will.

The genie is out of the bottle Brit, you can't put it back in. No people that have experienced freedom, will ever go back to live under slavery. You brought solders as an argument, but that has been tested and failed many times before. Would you as a Brit be willing to go and die to bring India back into the British fold? Than what do you expect from Serbian solders? Time for your camp to realize that the Serbian army can't bring Kosova back into Serbia and lay that argument to rest forever.

DODOSOUR

pre 13 godina

Hi Sj.

You raped your sister!
"If you doubt my information get out there and prove me wrong."

That is exactly what you are doing. Its not nice is it?

As for the rest, keep being a Serb and bring in all your phony distractions, maybe you feel closer to a goldfish with your logic.

As sad as the situation is, not a single Serb can debate with out using the same dirty tactics from afar. Only on B92 and Serbianna do Serbs get away with the constant lies, everywhere else they disappear like a bad rash after an antidote.
What is with the "semi-literate" thing? Are you implying to be ubermensch or something over and over again to make up for your lousy debate?

miri

pre 13 godina

Ohh so cute. Mr. Stefanovic is complaining that he can't get through Albanian heads! Don't get depressed, you are no the only Serb who has achieve nothing when it comes to Kosova. Pretty much your superiors have done equally nothing. They always started with high hopes with "their fire breathing fists" on how advanced and smart and convincing they are and how they can outsmart every single Albanian, until they reach their demise and all we hear is whining that they can't convince Albanians to like them. Take your time Mr. Stefanovic, no-one expects you to solve anything as long as you bring your piece of constitution to the play.

ben

pre 13 godina

will beat terrorists 100 times out of 100. That should worry you.
(The Brit, 20 April 2011 17:24)

so the Serbian army that should come in my house is an army with sodliers and me staying in my home I am a terrorist???

Top

pre 13 godina

“The dialogue is stalled by the Serbian side's unwillingness to accept European standards in solving open issues,” she pointed out.

Somehow funny to hear those words from a Kosovarian politician, since Kosovo surely is the 'country'(?) with is farthest away from any European standard.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Ian,

If i were you, i would storm into The University of Bangor and demand a refund.

You got ripped off!!
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 17:57)

Why? Because my opinions differ to yours? You're ridiculous.

Wally

pre 13 godina

Arti- thats where you are wrong. it is not defeatinga entire people. it is defeating the criminal enterprise running Kosovo today. Admmittedly most Kalbs friendly to Serbs have already been killed, but there are still some left i am sure, or at least willing to allow serbia to maintain it;'s ties to kosovo.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Just playing into Serbia's hands. The us debt has hit $14,300,000,000,000. Gasoline prices are above $4 per gallon. In big, bad washington, it is $5 per gallon. Your big, tough protector is bankrupt - the military budget and usaid are big targets for cuts. And you keep asking for money - "kosovo" will be thrown out into the garbage soon.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Ian,

Did you attain a degree from the University of Prishtina?

Let's get one thing straight here. The 1999 war campaign was about the USA vs Serbia. It was the USA that forced thousands of Serbians to flee their homeland of Kosovo.

It was the USA that instructed the Kosovo Albanians on how and when to claim independence from Serbia. It is the USA that currently instructs and hand picks Kosovarian politicians.

The only credit Albanians can possibly receive, is the destruction of Serbian culture, religion and history from the territory of Kosovo.

So Ian, when are you Albanians going to be big boys and stand up for yourselves without foreign intervention?
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 15:32)

No I attained a degree from the University of Bangor and I'm not an Albanian.

Also I fail to see what your comment has to do with my comment or what it has to do with the article. It is irrelevant gibberish.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

well, it seems our dear k-albanian friend Arti is either too young to remember, or he is simply not capable of understanding what took place in KiM in ´99 and before.

my dear k-albanian friend, the Yugoslav Army wiped this toy-army out, that isn´t in question at all. the problem was, that this army of chicken-thieves, once they ran away, came back after the yugoslav forces had withdrawn again. that was a clear breach of the regulations that were agreed upon between the international community and the one and only legitimate political body, namely the SRJ , or simply said Yugoslavia.

so, there is no discussion about wiping out an " army " of chickenthieves, that would not be a greater obstacle for the serbian armed forces, no ... the task is to bring peace and security back to its southern province.

mislead kiddies, dreaming of a greater albanian state, will certainly not understand that, since they are obviously not able to see clearly with their eyes that there is no such thing like a "kosova-nation" or a real legitimate state at least.

you are reduced to your dreams, my dear. and what this british dude wrote is pretty much the reality for you.

you don´t like it, I can see it from the length of your response and the ammount of pseudo-arguments you´re bringing up, but.... don´t worry, all will be fine, once Serbia takes over control again. because, always remember, it´s serbian ground, you´re walking on! historically, legally, morally and politically.

I agree with the "Brit" how you called him, let´s just see what future brings! Serbia has an economy and an army. and the US will leave, sooner or later. it´s not over. oh no...

lowe

pre 13 godina

"In difference from Serbia the albanians have never had any support from a big country. Because of that our neighbours, greeks,serbs,monegrin and macedonians took advantage of our position and have attacked our people and occupyed our land. Kosovo, Chameria, western macedonia and south Montenegro are all albanian land. When the ottomans left all our neighbours knew that we were weak and attacked us cowardly. This is somthing we albanians will never forget.


Because of our hostile neighbours albanians know that the only way for us to keep our countrys safe is to arm our self just like Israel. This will happend with US support because US needs an strong Albania in the Balkans to stop Russians to get to the adriatic sea. That is why US demanded Montengro to be independent and close its ties with Serbia. The other front is Croatia and Bosnia.


And how are we going to arm our salf ? With hard work and US support. We are the Israel in the Balkans for US and US will allways support Kosovo as independent because US dosent bow down to Serbian and Russian pressure.


So indpendent Kosovo is secured!
(Demi, 20 April 2011 19:19) "


Demi,

In your first paragraph that I have quoted, you claimed that Albanians never had the support of any big country. Obviously you forgot the Yankees ......

Anyway much of the rest your tirade contradicted that first paragraph when you talked about Yankee support for you guys ...... you should make up your mind once and for all whether you Albanians have or did not have big countries' support and stop contradicting yourself over and over again.

You talk about arming yourselves ...... are you sure you are allowed to that by your masters? Can you even afford to do so on your own finances? Or are you expecting the Yankees to eagerly bankroll your missiles and jet fighters and tanks etc etc? Do you think they are flushed with cash right now? Read the news and get real!

Simpatiku_gj

pre 13 godina

Ian,

If i were you, i would storm into The University of Bangor and demand a refund.

You got ripped off!!
(Another Canadian Serb, 20 April 2011 17:57)

Why? Because he did not study in serbian language so everyone in the world could understand him? Or probably because he did not take any course on serbian "heroism" of marching to Kosovo after Russia paved the way?

iliri

pre 13 godina

Actually, erasing serbs from balkans would be a greater idea...slavs don't belong in balkans, once greeks turn to their pagan roots and get free from abrahmic ideologies, balkans will be on right path, it won't take long when Germany gets fed up of supporting EU ...

icj1

pre 13 godina

Look around Kosovo, its history is nothing but Serbia, thats like saying Judaism has no place in Jerusalem or Islam no place in Mecca.
(New Zealander, 20 April 2011 13:44)

Nobody is saying that… What we are saying is that the Orthodox Churh has its place in Kosovo, the same way that Judaism has its place in Jerusalem and Islam in Mecca. What does not have a place in Kosovo anymore is the State of Serbia.



Why do you think the Russians agreed to Resolution 1974 no fly zone over Libya? Was it because they were afraid of the United States of Idiots or NATO? No it’s because a deal has been done. You do recall something called Georgia? Well the Russians were not afraid to take away a large chunk and that was with NATO on the doorstep.
(sj, 20 April 2011 14:18)

Dude, Russia is not there to always say the opposite of what US says. If the Arab league and the Libyans themselves asked for the UNSC to approve 1974, why would Russia be against? Just to be the spoiling child and take the blame for the hundreds or thousands that would have been slaughtered in Benghazi ?!



It's difficult for the albanians to claim Kosovo when they have no proof of ownership.
(MikeC, 20 April 2011 17:08)

I apologize for my ignorance, but do the Serbs have deeds of ownership from whoever owned the land prior to them


That's why albanians burned and blew up hundreds of serbian churches and monasteries during the riots in 2004. Albanians did the same during WW2. The aim was to erase all proof to whom Kosovo really belongs, the Serbian nation. As long as we have our monasteries and churches Kosovo can never belong to anyone else.
(MikeC, 20 April 2011 17:08)

I apologize, but the churches and monasteries, even in Serbia, belong to the Orthodox Church, not Serbia. I’ve not heard of any plan by Serbia or anybody else to nationalize them. So, as long as there are monasteries and churches in Kosovo, that means that the Orthodox Church has some property in Kosovo, and it will remain Church’s property for as long as the owner, the Church, so wishes.



Serbia however, has shown to be strong enough to withstand 78 days of criminal bombings and stay free and sovereign in the greatest part of the republic of Serbia´s territory.
(Jovan, 20 April 2011 17:24)

Nobody intended to send troops in Serbia (ex Kosovo). So if that’s what Serbia fought for 78 days, I’m sorry to let you know that it was an effort wasted for nothing.



the NATO-aggressors have rather signed the Kumanovo-agreement than to send ground-troops. and I think they knew why they avoided fighting Serbia on the ground.
(Jovan, 20 April 2011 17:24)

Because they did not want to have any casualty. Within 3 months they achieved their goal to have the Serbian forces leave Kosovo without any war casualty on their side. So why should they have fought Serbia on the ground ?! For the fun of it ?



Gasoline prices are above $4 per gallon. In big, bad washington, it is $5 per gallon. Your big, tough protector is bankrupt - the military budget and usaid are big targets for cuts. And you keep asking for money - "kosovo" will be thrown out into the garbage soon.
(JohnBoy, 20 April 2011 19:13)

Wow, $4/gallon…. Man that’s cheaper than what it sells for in Serbia…! (add to that the fact that the average american earns much more than the averafe serb)

Peggy

pre 13 godina

1. Actually, erasing serbs from balkans would be a greater idea...slavs don't belong in balkans, once greeks turn to their pagan roots and get free from abrahmic ideologies, balkans will be on right path, it won't take long when Germany gets fed up of supporting EU ...
(iliri, 24 April 2011 08:32)
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Serbs and other slavs don't belong in the Balkans but you do. Interesting. So who are you? You are not Illyrian that much we know but then who could you be?
Why don't we just tell all the Slavs to pack up and leave. That goes for quite a few countries there. Where do you tell the Poles to go? Where did they come from? How about your beloved Croatians? Where are they going to go?
I think it's Albanians who should pack up and go back. Easier to get rid of one lot that all the Slavs isn't it?