Jasenovac must not be forgotten, Croat president says

May all the victims of this horrible crime rest in peace.

By the way I wonder where Lenard, Frisco and all ablanian trolls are? I guess its easy to point your finger at someone rather then dealing with your own past. I have always said you are nothing but hypocrites.

thank you pres josipovic you are a man of valouur and we serbs thank you for truth .

"Will the Serbian leadership be as courageous as the Croats to admit to the crimes they committed in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo? Will they condemn the Milosevic regime as an oppressive criminal regime? People need to face the truth and not hide behind nationalist propaganda." (Niko)

-- Agreed. But to be fair, Tadic has provided the same degree of apologia and efforts at reconciliation at Srebrenica http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=07&dd=11&nav_id=68366 and at Vukovar http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11689153

It's people like Tadic and Josipovic that earn the ire of nationalists and so-called "patriots" for deviating from the national narratives of self-victimhood and external demonization, but it's also people like them that pave the way towards a clear understanding of national collective memory and a diffusion of ethnocentric hubris. Both need to be equally commended for their actions.

Very courageous move by the Croatian leadership. Will the Serbian leadership be as courageous as the Croats to admit to the crimes they committed in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo? Will they condemn the Milosevic regime as an oppressive criminal regime? People need to face the truth and not hide behind nationalist propaganda.

Will the Serbian leadership be as courageous as the Croats to admit to the crimes they committed in Bosnia, Croatia?
(Niko, 17 April 2011 19:08)
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We already have.

Now I wonder what all of those Ustasha based in Australia and the US think about this? They funded and planned the independence of Croatia for a very long time and now the government seems to go against their ideals. The next step Croatia needs to make is apologise for the crimes committed in the 90s as Serbia has already done.

Also, I'd like to see the US, UK, Germany, the Vatican, NATO and other partners in crime apologise for their crimes but somehow I doubt that will happen.

As a Serb, I am pleased to read that the Croats themselves recognize the evil pêrpetrated against our nation during WW2. . «Pavelić’s regime was a regime of evil, hatred and intolerance, in which people were abused and killed because of their race, religion, nationality, political beliefs, because they were the others and different.»

This will help to walk towards justice and reconciliation.

What about the truth about Srebrenica, Mr. Ivo?
(ivan, 18 April 2011 02:07)

1. Its Irrelevant
2. Its Insignificant compared to Jasenovac
3. Why Ask?
4. (Just to answer your question) 5000 or so Muslim men were killed at Srebrenica

Josipovic and Tadic are on the right track to reconciliation.
A country is only build on their true history and not on fiction like some people want others to believe.

Only ? 8000 men deported and killed from srebenica in 1995 and only ? about 800 000 - 1.000.000 people killed in Jasenovac, as in other concentration camps in WWII. Nobody can get around these true facts.
Everyone who denies the existance is a worse criminal than the murderers themselves.

ivan,
why are you refering your srebrnica request to ivo? ivo is croatia's president. according to current wisdom it was a serb aggression, not a croat one.
it seems that some of the tide is turning and perhaps the fact that kosovo is less 200000 serbs (roughly same numbers as in croatia, and similar true ethnic cleansing model in terms of speed and destruction) will eventually cause a kla leader's downfall into the same ethnic cleansing hole as befell these croatian war generals.
but regarding the actual post it is a very positive direction that ivo has taken towards true reconciliation. boris has taken such steps too. now its up to thaci and hadzic to recognize same issues with their nations' pasts.
perhaps one day the balkan nations will bury the hatchet and atleast remain civil, if not cooperative. all it takes is honesty and resolve to fight for that honesty, on all sides.

What about the truth about Srebrenica, Mr. Ivo?

Very courageous move by the Croatian leadership. Will the Serbian leadership be as courageous as the Croats to admit to the crimes they committed in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo? Will they condemn the Milosevic regime as an oppressive criminal regime? People need to face the truth and not hide behind nationalist propaganda.

What about the truth about Srebrenica, Mr. Ivo?

May all the victims of this horrible crime rest in peace.

By the way I wonder where Lenard, Frisco and all ablanian trolls are? I guess its easy to point your finger at someone rather then dealing with your own past. I have always said you are nothing but hypocrites.

Will the Serbian leadership be as courageous as the Croats to admit to the crimes they committed in Bosnia, Croatia?
(Niko, 17 April 2011 19:08)
--
We already have.

Now I wonder what all of those Ustasha based in Australia and the US think about this? They funded and planned the independence of Croatia for a very long time and now the government seems to go against their ideals. The next step Croatia needs to make is apologise for the crimes committed in the 90s as Serbia has already done.

Also, I'd like to see the US, UK, Germany, the Vatican, NATO and other partners in crime apologise for their crimes but somehow I doubt that will happen.

"Will the Serbian leadership be as courageous as the Croats to admit to the crimes they committed in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo? Will they condemn the Milosevic regime as an oppressive criminal regime? People need to face the truth and not hide behind nationalist propaganda." (Niko)

-- Agreed. But to be fair, Tadic has provided the same degree of apologia and efforts at reconciliation at Srebrenica http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=07&dd=11&nav_id=68366 and at Vukovar http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11689153

It's people like Tadic and Josipovic that earn the ire of nationalists and so-called "patriots" for deviating from the national narratives of self-victimhood and external demonization, but it's also people like them that pave the way towards a clear understanding of national collective memory and a diffusion of ethnocentric hubris. Both need to be equally commended for their actions.

What about the truth about Srebrenica, Mr. Ivo?
(ivan, 18 April 2011 02:07)

1. Its Irrelevant
2. Its Insignificant compared to Jasenovac
3. Why Ask?
4. (Just to answer your question) 5000 or so Muslim men were killed at Srebrenica

Josipovic and Tadic are on the right track to reconciliation.
A country is only build on their true history and not on fiction like some people want others to believe.

Only ? 8000 men deported and killed from srebenica in 1995 and only ? about 800 000 - 1.000.000 people killed in Jasenovac, as in other concentration camps in WWII. Nobody can get around these true facts.
Everyone who denies the existance is a worse criminal than the murderers themselves.

thank you pres josipovic you are a man of valouur and we serbs thank you for truth .

As a Serb, I am pleased to read that the Croats themselves recognize the evil pêrpetrated against our nation during WW2. . «Pavelić’s regime was a regime of evil, hatred and intolerance, in which people were abused and killed because of their race, religion, nationality, political beliefs, because they were the others and different.»

This will help to walk towards justice and reconciliation.

ivan,
why are you refering your srebrnica request to ivo? ivo is croatia's president. according to current wisdom it was a serb aggression, not a croat one.
it seems that some of the tide is turning and perhaps the fact that kosovo is less 200000 serbs (roughly same numbers as in croatia, and similar true ethnic cleansing model in terms of speed and destruction) will eventually cause a kla leader's downfall into the same ethnic cleansing hole as befell these croatian war generals.
but regarding the actual post it is a very positive direction that ivo has taken towards true reconciliation. boris has taken such steps too. now its up to thaci and hadzic to recognize same issues with their nations' pasts.
perhaps one day the balkan nations will bury the hatchet and atleast remain civil, if not cooperative. all it takes is honesty and resolve to fight for that honesty, on all sides.