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Wednesday, 13.04.2011.

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"Unexpected results achieved in fighting UDI"

Vuk Jeremić says "some powerful countries" tried to "solidify Kosovo's independence", but that our diplomacy fought back and achieved results few had expected.

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icj1

pre 13 godina

Mr. Ostojic does not comprehend the ruling of International Court of Justice. Declarations as such are not illegal because international law does not rule on declarations but actions. Serbia could declare that Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia and such declaration would not be illegal. An attempt to act upon such declaration is illegal. Declaration of independence of "Kosova" is not illegal, establishing "Kosova"pseudo-state on Serbian soil is illegal. And that is the legal meaning of ICJ ruling.
(Bob Petrovich, 13 April 2011 17:42)

Bob, the ICJ said "the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law". That's crystal clear, not sure what's to interpret. To the risk of repeating the obvious, the ICJ is saying the UDI of a specific entity (Kosovo) declared on a specific date (17 feb 2008) is not illegal. The ICJ nowhere said "declarations of independence declared by anybody on any date do not violate international law".

Not sure where you read all those allucinations stated above about the Mediterranean Sea, Serbia and bla, bla, bla. In addition I'm not aware of anything related to the Mediterranean Sea being declared on 17 Feb 2008.

Similarly to 1244, there appears to be a Serbian version of the ICJ decision that has additional wording not contained in the English version !

Now, for Serbia declaring that the Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia.. First, that's illegal because it violates international law of the sea (more specifically, UNCLOS's Art. 2 which legally binds Serbia as a party to that convention). Second, does not have any practical effect unless Serbia is able to exclude in practice other states from entering that sea.

CG

pre 13 godina

Vuk Jeremić says "some powerful countries" tried to "solidify Kosovo's independence",

Vuk,Kosovo is not independent ,therefore its "independence" cannot be solidified!
Use the term "our occupied South Serbian" province instead and to kosovo Serbs: STOP paricipating in this greater Albanian scam called the Kosovo census,you are hurting your interests,don`t you see that Albanians want to legalize their ethnical cleansing?

passing by

pre 13 godina

Apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often
(ilirian dorsey, 14 April 2011 09:16)
Ataman, is that you?
I cannot believe somebody can write that content seriously.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Johnboy ! Since when you have not watch TV ? Albania got visa ABOLISHED months ago. I am Albanian from Kosova and have Albanian passaport ! I travel with no visa all over Europe.
(Blero, 14 April 2011 00:09)

Good! Now Kosovo Albanians don't have to apply for a Serbian passport any more. But what about the nice passports from the great independent dream state of Kosovo you are so proud of? ;-)

ilirian dorsey

pre 13 godina

Apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often

ilirian dorsey

pre 13 godina

apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often

New Zealand

pre 13 godina

"We should not support the North Korean regime or other regimes that violate human rights for the sake of one vote in the UN.


Note that this should also apply to the USA - See Guantanamo Bay and Abu Gharib, and as much as I hate North Korea's human rights record, the've certainly got the "American Imperialists" idea correct.

Blero

pre 13 godina

Johnboy ! Since when you have not watch TV ? Albania got visa ABOLISHED months ago. I am Albanian from Kosova and have Albanian passaport ! I travel with no visa all over Europe.You still have your old newspaper from last year .It is you Srbs not wanted by any in Europe .Oh if you call Lybia Europe than is different story.

sj

pre 13 godina

I bet you can look at a big red apple and see a yellow banana in your mind, can't you?
(pss, 13 April 2011 18:38)

I bet you look at an Albanian donkey and see a thoroughbred horse. Too bad Bob Petrovich is 100% correct, but go back to the ICJ and get them to declare your Kosova independent. Ohh good luck that’s if your ally, the US, allows your lot to set foot in that institution.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Yes, the result is that this effort is helping to trash america's reputation all over the world. america put its prestige on the line for a people (albanian) whom all of europe despises and refuses to abolish their visa requirements. I can't think of a bigger insult than to say even your money is no good here since we don't trust you to cross our borders. And what "independence"? When you have to elect a nobody as your phoney president just because the us secretary of state likes her, you are nothing but a colony of america. And nobody respects a colony.

pss

pre 13 godina

(Bob Petrovich, 13 April 2011 17:42)
# Comment link

I bet you can look at a big red apple and see a yellow banana in your mind, can't you?

Top

pre 13 godina

"We should not support the North Korean regime or other regimes that violate human rights for the sake of one vote in the UN. The act goes against Japan and South Korea, which is irrational," he underlined.

Wise words.

Bob Petrovich

pre 13 godina

Mr. Ostojic does not comprehend the ruling of International Court of Justice. Declarations as such are not illegal because international law does not rule on declarations but actions. Serbia could declare that Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia and such declaration would not be illegal. An attempt to act upon such declaration is illegal. Declaration of independence of "Kosova" is not illegal, establishing "Kosova"pseudo-state on Serbian soil is illegal. And that is the legal meaning of ICJ ruling.

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

Allways when Mr Jeremiq has achieved "something" regarding the independence of Kosova. Kosova is allways recognized by a few new countries!

Keep up the good work Jeremiq.

Tung

highduke

pre 13 godina

We had a free unoccupied RUS with us this time unlike in the 90s and that made all the difference. Sloba had to do it on his own and his mistakes wont be forgotten but fair diplomacy was an option he didn't have.

Bob Petrovich

pre 13 godina

Mr. Ostojic does not comprehend the ruling of International Court of Justice. Declarations as such are not illegal because international law does not rule on declarations but actions. Serbia could declare that Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia and such declaration would not be illegal. An attempt to act upon such declaration is illegal. Declaration of independence of "Kosova" is not illegal, establishing "Kosova"pseudo-state on Serbian soil is illegal. And that is the legal meaning of ICJ ruling.

highduke

pre 13 godina

We had a free unoccupied RUS with us this time unlike in the 90s and that made all the difference. Sloba had to do it on his own and his mistakes wont be forgotten but fair diplomacy was an option he didn't have.

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

Allways when Mr Jeremiq has achieved "something" regarding the independence of Kosova. Kosova is allways recognized by a few new countries!

Keep up the good work Jeremiq.

Tung

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Yes, the result is that this effort is helping to trash america's reputation all over the world. america put its prestige on the line for a people (albanian) whom all of europe despises and refuses to abolish their visa requirements. I can't think of a bigger insult than to say even your money is no good here since we don't trust you to cross our borders. And what "independence"? When you have to elect a nobody as your phoney president just because the us secretary of state likes her, you are nothing but a colony of america. And nobody respects a colony.

New Zealand

pre 13 godina

"We should not support the North Korean regime or other regimes that violate human rights for the sake of one vote in the UN.


Note that this should also apply to the USA - See Guantanamo Bay and Abu Gharib, and as much as I hate North Korea's human rights record, the've certainly got the "American Imperialists" idea correct.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Johnboy ! Since when you have not watch TV ? Albania got visa ABOLISHED months ago. I am Albanian from Kosova and have Albanian passaport ! I travel with no visa all over Europe.
(Blero, 14 April 2011 00:09)

Good! Now Kosovo Albanians don't have to apply for a Serbian passport any more. But what about the nice passports from the great independent dream state of Kosovo you are so proud of? ;-)

Top

pre 13 godina

"We should not support the North Korean regime or other regimes that violate human rights for the sake of one vote in the UN. The act goes against Japan and South Korea, which is irrational," he underlined.

Wise words.

sj

pre 13 godina

I bet you can look at a big red apple and see a yellow banana in your mind, can't you?
(pss, 13 April 2011 18:38)

I bet you look at an Albanian donkey and see a thoroughbred horse. Too bad Bob Petrovich is 100% correct, but go back to the ICJ and get them to declare your Kosova independent. Ohh good luck that’s if your ally, the US, allows your lot to set foot in that institution.

CG

pre 13 godina

Vuk Jeremić says "some powerful countries" tried to "solidify Kosovo's independence",

Vuk,Kosovo is not independent ,therefore its "independence" cannot be solidified!
Use the term "our occupied South Serbian" province instead and to kosovo Serbs: STOP paricipating in this greater Albanian scam called the Kosovo census,you are hurting your interests,don`t you see that Albanians want to legalize their ethnical cleansing?

pss

pre 13 godina

(Bob Petrovich, 13 April 2011 17:42)
# Comment link

I bet you can look at a big red apple and see a yellow banana in your mind, can't you?

ilirian dorsey

pre 13 godina

Apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often

passing by

pre 13 godina

Apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often
(ilirian dorsey, 14 April 2011 09:16)
Ataman, is that you?
I cannot believe somebody can write that content seriously.

Blero

pre 13 godina

Johnboy ! Since when you have not watch TV ? Albania got visa ABOLISHED months ago. I am Albanian from Kosova and have Albanian passaport ! I travel with no visa all over Europe.You still have your old newspaper from last year .It is you Srbs not wanted by any in Europe .Oh if you call Lybia Europe than is different story.

ilirian dorsey

pre 13 godina

apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often

icj1

pre 13 godina

Mr. Ostojic does not comprehend the ruling of International Court of Justice. Declarations as such are not illegal because international law does not rule on declarations but actions. Serbia could declare that Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia and such declaration would not be illegal. An attempt to act upon such declaration is illegal. Declaration of independence of "Kosova" is not illegal, establishing "Kosova"pseudo-state on Serbian soil is illegal. And that is the legal meaning of ICJ ruling.
(Bob Petrovich, 13 April 2011 17:42)

Bob, the ICJ said "the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law". That's crystal clear, not sure what's to interpret. To the risk of repeating the obvious, the ICJ is saying the UDI of a specific entity (Kosovo) declared on a specific date (17 feb 2008) is not illegal. The ICJ nowhere said "declarations of independence declared by anybody on any date do not violate international law".

Not sure where you read all those allucinations stated above about the Mediterranean Sea, Serbia and bla, bla, bla. In addition I'm not aware of anything related to the Mediterranean Sea being declared on 17 Feb 2008.

Similarly to 1244, there appears to be a Serbian version of the ICJ decision that has additional wording not contained in the English version !

Now, for Serbia declaring that the Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia.. First, that's illegal because it violates international law of the sea (more specifically, UNCLOS's Art. 2 which legally binds Serbia as a party to that convention). Second, does not have any practical effect unless Serbia is able to exclude in practice other states from entering that sea.

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

Allways when Mr Jeremiq has achieved "something" regarding the independence of Kosova. Kosova is allways recognized by a few new countries!

Keep up the good work Jeremiq.

Tung

highduke

pre 13 godina

We had a free unoccupied RUS with us this time unlike in the 90s and that made all the difference. Sloba had to do it on his own and his mistakes wont be forgotten but fair diplomacy was an option he didn't have.

pss

pre 13 godina

(Bob Petrovich, 13 April 2011 17:42)
# Comment link

I bet you can look at a big red apple and see a yellow banana in your mind, can't you?

Blero

pre 13 godina

Johnboy ! Since when you have not watch TV ? Albania got visa ABOLISHED months ago. I am Albanian from Kosova and have Albanian passaport ! I travel with no visa all over Europe.You still have your old newspaper from last year .It is you Srbs not wanted by any in Europe .Oh if you call Lybia Europe than is different story.

Bob Petrovich

pre 13 godina

Mr. Ostojic does not comprehend the ruling of International Court of Justice. Declarations as such are not illegal because international law does not rule on declarations but actions. Serbia could declare that Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia and such declaration would not be illegal. An attempt to act upon such declaration is illegal. Declaration of independence of "Kosova" is not illegal, establishing "Kosova"pseudo-state on Serbian soil is illegal. And that is the legal meaning of ICJ ruling.

Top

pre 13 godina

"We should not support the North Korean regime or other regimes that violate human rights for the sake of one vote in the UN. The act goes against Japan and South Korea, which is irrational," he underlined.

Wise words.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Yes, the result is that this effort is helping to trash america's reputation all over the world. america put its prestige on the line for a people (albanian) whom all of europe despises and refuses to abolish their visa requirements. I can't think of a bigger insult than to say even your money is no good here since we don't trust you to cross our borders. And what "independence"? When you have to elect a nobody as your phoney president just because the us secretary of state likes her, you are nothing but a colony of america. And nobody respects a colony.

sj

pre 13 godina

I bet you can look at a big red apple and see a yellow banana in your mind, can't you?
(pss, 13 April 2011 18:38)

I bet you look at an Albanian donkey and see a thoroughbred horse. Too bad Bob Petrovich is 100% correct, but go back to the ICJ and get them to declare your Kosova independent. Ohh good luck that’s if your ally, the US, allows your lot to set foot in that institution.

ilirian dorsey

pre 13 godina

apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often

ilirian dorsey

pre 13 godina

Apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often

New Zealand

pre 13 godina

"We should not support the North Korean regime or other regimes that violate human rights for the sake of one vote in the UN.


Note that this should also apply to the USA - See Guantanamo Bay and Abu Gharib, and as much as I hate North Korea's human rights record, the've certainly got the "American Imperialists" idea correct.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Johnboy ! Since when you have not watch TV ? Albania got visa ABOLISHED months ago. I am Albanian from Kosova and have Albanian passaport ! I travel with no visa all over Europe.
(Blero, 14 April 2011 00:09)

Good! Now Kosovo Albanians don't have to apply for a Serbian passport any more. But what about the nice passports from the great independent dream state of Kosovo you are so proud of? ;-)

passing by

pre 13 godina

Apparently some recognition is happening wolf always precedes before that happens and hi says we have stopped. Remember his last statement cite "but some superpower that are supporting independence", and after each Such a statement always happens. Say it often
(ilirian dorsey, 14 April 2011 09:16)
Ataman, is that you?
I cannot believe somebody can write that content seriously.

CG

pre 13 godina

Vuk Jeremić says "some powerful countries" tried to "solidify Kosovo's independence",

Vuk,Kosovo is not independent ,therefore its "independence" cannot be solidified!
Use the term "our occupied South Serbian" province instead and to kosovo Serbs: STOP paricipating in this greater Albanian scam called the Kosovo census,you are hurting your interests,don`t you see that Albanians want to legalize their ethnical cleansing?

icj1

pre 13 godina

Mr. Ostojic does not comprehend the ruling of International Court of Justice. Declarations as such are not illegal because international law does not rule on declarations but actions. Serbia could declare that Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia and such declaration would not be illegal. An attempt to act upon such declaration is illegal. Declaration of independence of "Kosova" is not illegal, establishing "Kosova"pseudo-state on Serbian soil is illegal. And that is the legal meaning of ICJ ruling.
(Bob Petrovich, 13 April 2011 17:42)

Bob, the ICJ said "the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law". That's crystal clear, not sure what's to interpret. To the risk of repeating the obvious, the ICJ is saying the UDI of a specific entity (Kosovo) declared on a specific date (17 feb 2008) is not illegal. The ICJ nowhere said "declarations of independence declared by anybody on any date do not violate international law".

Not sure where you read all those allucinations stated above about the Mediterranean Sea, Serbia and bla, bla, bla. In addition I'm not aware of anything related to the Mediterranean Sea being declared on 17 Feb 2008.

Similarly to 1244, there appears to be a Serbian version of the ICJ decision that has additional wording not contained in the English version !

Now, for Serbia declaring that the Mediterranean Sea belongs to Serbia.. First, that's illegal because it violates international law of the sea (more specifically, UNCLOS's Art. 2 which legally binds Serbia as a party to that convention). Second, does not have any practical effect unless Serbia is able to exclude in practice other states from entering that sea.