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Wednesday, 06.04.2011.

11:45

Ex-French FM dismisses Kosovo organ trade claims

Former French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner has once again stated that he did not believe that illegal trade in human organs took place Kosovo.

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Peggy

pre 13 godina

If you believe Marty's report, then why was Kouchner, as head of "Doctors Without Borders", awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Why has no one brought charges against him? I think you know the answer, but you can't swallow the truth. Do you have nothing better to do than waste your life by continuing on this wild goose chase.
(The Count of Kosova, 7 April 2011 06:49)
=============================

For the same reason Thaci and his merry men are still walking free. Politics and lack of investigation.
Nobody ever investigated anything these people did for obvious reasons. But one day we will get to the bottom of all this and the laughing clown will go down in disgrace along with the rest.

marty

pre 13 godina

''Last year during his visit to Kosovo, Kouchner reacted by insulting a reporter and laughing outloud when asked to comment on the same subject. ''

I have to admit that it is not that polite for a politician of Kouschner standard to insult a journaist...but if a journalist asks questions of the level of '' mr. kouchner, do you eat children?'' or ''is it true that you are a vampire?'' of course, no matter how proffessional a person can be...if being a moron was illegal, that journalist would already be in jail..

but, of course, Kouchner is a serbophobe...and Marty a albanophobe. Yet, Koucher does not go around writing boombastic reports and then yell toward his coulegues like in that meeting that was held without the present of media, luckyly for marty at the very least... In that meeting, Marty acused Doris Pack to know ''balkans to well'' and being ''to much involved with balkan matters'' and she simply replied that ''south estern '' europe, hence the balkans, had actually been her job during the last 20 years. But Marty sees Balkans and Yugoslavia as a seperate region from south eastern europe...and of course, any one who doubts Marty is an organ harvester. Doris Pack, Swoboda, Kouchner and other european politicans. Sounds like ''The Ultimate Piovra''

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

I understand that Kouchner is pretty much a criminal who travelled the world to impoverished countries setting up medical resources for his friends businesses to prosper, but this is just one item in particular that he's against the most. If Mladic's wife can be on trial, this man should have been locked up a long time ago.
(Mike_Toronto, 6 April 2011 14:38

Mike,

If you believe Marty's report, then why was Kouchner, as head of "Doctors Without Borders", awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Why has no one brought charges against him? I think you know the answer, but you can't swallow the truth. Do you have nothing better to do than waste your life by continuing on this wild goose chase.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I saw that former interview online, and.., to be honest, usaually I am a sceptic about allegations of this kind.

but Kouchners reaction was so suspicious that I thought there might be something to it.

and Mr.Marty has already shown before that he is no clown in that regard. so, I am quite eager to see what a real investigation will bring up.

so far, I don´t believe Mr.Marty would bring up allegations like these, if there were not some really substantial evidence. he knows he would make himself a fool if he did so, and personally I don´t think he would do it so easily.

let´s just see what future brings.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Then that would be the Hague, are you sure you want to extend their mandate to cover new war crime investigations? They still have unfinished business with some of the Serbian war criminals after all.
It is totally illogical to set up a court to hear all war crimes for Yugoslavia and then say but we want a special court for this one investigation.
(pss, 6 April 2011 18:00)
============================

Not for Hague but not for the reasons you stated. Hague destroyed evidence and tried to dismiss the whole thing so they would not suitable to investigate anything now. I doubt they would even prosecute adequately anyone beside Serbs.

This liar Bernard will be found out soon enough. Just twitches from a ding man.

New Zealand

pre 13 godina

I think people would do better then to listen to someone who runs a death camp in Kosovo, Kouchner should be in prison.
http://www.cinews.ie/article.php?artid=5415

ida

pre 13 godina

Of course he would deny it as he presided over the time it was taking place. It's a fact that several hundreds of Serbs and Roma were kidnapped while he was in charge and that most of them haven't been found. There were kidnapped Serbs being held in camps according to a Muslim Helsinki representative from Sandzak, Serbia. His people were able to use illegal channels to see and talk to these Serbs held in basements of restaurants and other hidden places, yet in populated areas. He noted they were suddenly being treated better and thought at the time they were being prepared for an exchange. THERE NEVER WAS AN EXCHANGE. So these people have either been killed or they are still imprisoned (more unlikely 10 years later).
Methinks they were being preserved and unbeaten so their kidneys would be in decent shape.

pss

pre 13 godina

The only competent authority would be one commissioned by the UN. EULEX's mandate covers Kosovo only whereas we all know these crimes extend into Albania.
(Zoran, 6 April 2011 16:09)
# Comment link

Then that would be the Hague, are you sure you want to extend their mandate to cover new war crime investigations? They still have unfinished business with some of the Serbian war criminals after all.
It is totally illogical to set up a court to hear all war crimes for Yugoslavia and then say but we want a special court for this one investigation.

picu

pre 13 godina

There is nothing to be proved, and unlikely that will ever anything be proved. Some people have problems in distinguishing between "allegation" with "evidence". If there is evidence the process proceed fast and smooth, ON THE CONTRARY a party may look for ways to invent some 'truth' at any cost.

Very likely that the latter is case, especially since nothing has moved for nearly 5 months.

With Marty's "evidence" even in 5 years time we will still be in this wondering stage as we are today.

In 50 years time this "wondering stage" will start to become a myth...

Yaroslav

pre 13 godina

Kouchner also denounced in 2005 dick Marty's reports about CIA secret prisons. Something the U.S. admitted to in 2006.

Kouchner has a direct personal interest in denouncing Marty. It would lead to questions about his role in Kosovo and an organization he founded Doctors Without Borders having trained people who later were involved in organ smuggling.

It might also raise question about controversial things his organization did in the past. Such as actively intervening in Haiti against Aristide.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

No one is blocking an investigation, Eulex has undertaken the task. That is the only entity that has both authority and resources to undertake the investigation other than the Hague which would require an extension of its mandate. Serbia does not seem interested in that avenue.
(pss, 6 April 2011 14:30)
--
The only competent authority would be one commissioned by the UN. EULEX's mandate covers Kosovo only whereas we all know these crimes extend into Albania.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Kouchner is a paid Serbophobe who believes in not condemning anti-Serb pogroms, illegal wars against Serbs or investigating crimes against us either, so what he says he believes is more likely a lie. I'm sure he believes that Albanians arent flooding his EU with drugs, guns & prostitutes either.

pss

pre 13 godina

Still waiting for an investigation. If there is nothing to hide then why so much resistance for an international investigation to start? These people are calling for an investigation in public but are doing everything they can to block it in private.
(Zoran, 6 April 2011 13:46)
No one is blocking an investigation, Eulex has undertaken the task. That is the only entity that has both authority and resources to undertake the investigation other than the Hague which would require an extension of its mandate. Serbia does not seem interested in that avenue.
I doubt that you and other like minded individuals will never be satisfied with anything other than a Serbo-Russian investigating team and that will never happen.

Mike_Toronto

pre 13 godina

Just do a Google search with the term 'Bernard Kouchner Albanian'. This man should be strung up in the Hague! I've also heard that he has quite strong ties to Albanians, even possibly related. I don't see why anyone who is truly innocent would protest so much. I understand that Kouchner is pretty much a criminal who travelled the world to impoverished countries setting up medical resources for his friends businesses to prosper, but this is just one item in particular that he's against the most. If Mladic's wife can be on trial, this man should have been locked up a long time ago.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

"I have read that report carefully and I expect an investigation, so that the wrong impression can be removed along with the bitter taste of that affair," he was quoted as saying.
--
Still waiting for an investigation. If there is nothing to hide then why so much resistance for an international investigation to start? These people are calling for an investigation in public but are doing everything they can to block it in private.

EA

pre 13 godina

http://www.balkanweb.com/index.php

What is Carla del Ponte basically saying? Regarding Dick Marty's report where the main accused person is Hashim Thaci she states that "No no, I haven't mentioned in my book Hashim Thaci and I am not implicating him in this organ trafficing. If there is someone who has mentioned Hashim Thaci's name this is Dick Marty..."

How BAD that can be? And these guys think can not be punished because of their immunity....

Mike_Toronto

pre 13 godina

Just do a Google search with the term 'Bernard Kouchner Albanian'. This man should be strung up in the Hague! I've also heard that he has quite strong ties to Albanians, even possibly related. I don't see why anyone who is truly innocent would protest so much. I understand that Kouchner is pretty much a criminal who travelled the world to impoverished countries setting up medical resources for his friends businesses to prosper, but this is just one item in particular that he's against the most. If Mladic's wife can be on trial, this man should have been locked up a long time ago.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Kouchner is a paid Serbophobe who believes in not condemning anti-Serb pogroms, illegal wars against Serbs or investigating crimes against us either, so what he says he believes is more likely a lie. I'm sure he believes that Albanians arent flooding his EU with drugs, guns & prostitutes either.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

"I have read that report carefully and I expect an investigation, so that the wrong impression can be removed along with the bitter taste of that affair," he was quoted as saying.
--
Still waiting for an investigation. If there is nothing to hide then why so much resistance for an international investigation to start? These people are calling for an investigation in public but are doing everything they can to block it in private.

New Zealand

pre 13 godina

I think people would do better then to listen to someone who runs a death camp in Kosovo, Kouchner should be in prison.
http://www.cinews.ie/article.php?artid=5415

Yaroslav

pre 13 godina

Kouchner also denounced in 2005 dick Marty's reports about CIA secret prisons. Something the U.S. admitted to in 2006.

Kouchner has a direct personal interest in denouncing Marty. It would lead to questions about his role in Kosovo and an organization he founded Doctors Without Borders having trained people who later were involved in organ smuggling.

It might also raise question about controversial things his organization did in the past. Such as actively intervening in Haiti against Aristide.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

No one is blocking an investigation, Eulex has undertaken the task. That is the only entity that has both authority and resources to undertake the investigation other than the Hague which would require an extension of its mandate. Serbia does not seem interested in that avenue.
(pss, 6 April 2011 14:30)
--
The only competent authority would be one commissioned by the UN. EULEX's mandate covers Kosovo only whereas we all know these crimes extend into Albania.

EA

pre 13 godina

http://www.balkanweb.com/index.php

What is Carla del Ponte basically saying? Regarding Dick Marty's report where the main accused person is Hashim Thaci she states that "No no, I haven't mentioned in my book Hashim Thaci and I am not implicating him in this organ trafficing. If there is someone who has mentioned Hashim Thaci's name this is Dick Marty..."

How BAD that can be? And these guys think can not be punished because of their immunity....

ida

pre 13 godina

Of course he would deny it as he presided over the time it was taking place. It's a fact that several hundreds of Serbs and Roma were kidnapped while he was in charge and that most of them haven't been found. There were kidnapped Serbs being held in camps according to a Muslim Helsinki representative from Sandzak, Serbia. His people were able to use illegal channels to see and talk to these Serbs held in basements of restaurants and other hidden places, yet in populated areas. He noted they were suddenly being treated better and thought at the time they were being prepared for an exchange. THERE NEVER WAS AN EXCHANGE. So these people have either been killed or they are still imprisoned (more unlikely 10 years later).
Methinks they were being preserved and unbeaten so their kidneys would be in decent shape.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I saw that former interview online, and.., to be honest, usaually I am a sceptic about allegations of this kind.

but Kouchners reaction was so suspicious that I thought there might be something to it.

and Mr.Marty has already shown before that he is no clown in that regard. so, I am quite eager to see what a real investigation will bring up.

so far, I don´t believe Mr.Marty would bring up allegations like these, if there were not some really substantial evidence. he knows he would make himself a fool if he did so, and personally I don´t think he would do it so easily.

let´s just see what future brings.

pss

pre 13 godina

Still waiting for an investigation. If there is nothing to hide then why so much resistance for an international investigation to start? These people are calling for an investigation in public but are doing everything they can to block it in private.
(Zoran, 6 April 2011 13:46)
No one is blocking an investigation, Eulex has undertaken the task. That is the only entity that has both authority and resources to undertake the investigation other than the Hague which would require an extension of its mandate. Serbia does not seem interested in that avenue.
I doubt that you and other like minded individuals will never be satisfied with anything other than a Serbo-Russian investigating team and that will never happen.

pss

pre 13 godina

The only competent authority would be one commissioned by the UN. EULEX's mandate covers Kosovo only whereas we all know these crimes extend into Albania.
(Zoran, 6 April 2011 16:09)
# Comment link

Then that would be the Hague, are you sure you want to extend their mandate to cover new war crime investigations? They still have unfinished business with some of the Serbian war criminals after all.
It is totally illogical to set up a court to hear all war crimes for Yugoslavia and then say but we want a special court for this one investigation.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Then that would be the Hague, are you sure you want to extend their mandate to cover new war crime investigations? They still have unfinished business with some of the Serbian war criminals after all.
It is totally illogical to set up a court to hear all war crimes for Yugoslavia and then say but we want a special court for this one investigation.
(pss, 6 April 2011 18:00)
============================

Not for Hague but not for the reasons you stated. Hague destroyed evidence and tried to dismiss the whole thing so they would not suitable to investigate anything now. I doubt they would even prosecute adequately anyone beside Serbs.

This liar Bernard will be found out soon enough. Just twitches from a ding man.

picu

pre 13 godina

There is nothing to be proved, and unlikely that will ever anything be proved. Some people have problems in distinguishing between "allegation" with "evidence". If there is evidence the process proceed fast and smooth, ON THE CONTRARY a party may look for ways to invent some 'truth' at any cost.

Very likely that the latter is case, especially since nothing has moved for nearly 5 months.

With Marty's "evidence" even in 5 years time we will still be in this wondering stage as we are today.

In 50 years time this "wondering stage" will start to become a myth...

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

I understand that Kouchner is pretty much a criminal who travelled the world to impoverished countries setting up medical resources for his friends businesses to prosper, but this is just one item in particular that he's against the most. If Mladic's wife can be on trial, this man should have been locked up a long time ago.
(Mike_Toronto, 6 April 2011 14:38

Mike,

If you believe Marty's report, then why was Kouchner, as head of "Doctors Without Borders", awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Why has no one brought charges against him? I think you know the answer, but you can't swallow the truth. Do you have nothing better to do than waste your life by continuing on this wild goose chase.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

If you believe Marty's report, then why was Kouchner, as head of "Doctors Without Borders", awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Why has no one brought charges against him? I think you know the answer, but you can't swallow the truth. Do you have nothing better to do than waste your life by continuing on this wild goose chase.
(The Count of Kosova, 7 April 2011 06:49)
=============================

For the same reason Thaci and his merry men are still walking free. Politics and lack of investigation.
Nobody ever investigated anything these people did for obvious reasons. But one day we will get to the bottom of all this and the laughing clown will go down in disgrace along with the rest.

marty

pre 13 godina

''Last year during his visit to Kosovo, Kouchner reacted by insulting a reporter and laughing outloud when asked to comment on the same subject. ''

I have to admit that it is not that polite for a politician of Kouschner standard to insult a journaist...but if a journalist asks questions of the level of '' mr. kouchner, do you eat children?'' or ''is it true that you are a vampire?'' of course, no matter how proffessional a person can be...if being a moron was illegal, that journalist would already be in jail..

but, of course, Kouchner is a serbophobe...and Marty a albanophobe. Yet, Koucher does not go around writing boombastic reports and then yell toward his coulegues like in that meeting that was held without the present of media, luckyly for marty at the very least... In that meeting, Marty acused Doris Pack to know ''balkans to well'' and being ''to much involved with balkan matters'' and she simply replied that ''south estern '' europe, hence the balkans, had actually been her job during the last 20 years. But Marty sees Balkans and Yugoslavia as a seperate region from south eastern europe...and of course, any one who doubts Marty is an organ harvester. Doris Pack, Swoboda, Kouchner and other european politicans. Sounds like ''The Ultimate Piovra''

EA

pre 13 godina

http://www.balkanweb.com/index.php

What is Carla del Ponte basically saying? Regarding Dick Marty's report where the main accused person is Hashim Thaci she states that "No no, I haven't mentioned in my book Hashim Thaci and I am not implicating him in this organ trafficing. If there is someone who has mentioned Hashim Thaci's name this is Dick Marty..."

How BAD that can be? And these guys think can not be punished because of their immunity....

pss

pre 13 godina

Still waiting for an investigation. If there is nothing to hide then why so much resistance for an international investigation to start? These people are calling for an investigation in public but are doing everything they can to block it in private.
(Zoran, 6 April 2011 13:46)
No one is blocking an investigation, Eulex has undertaken the task. That is the only entity that has both authority and resources to undertake the investigation other than the Hague which would require an extension of its mandate. Serbia does not seem interested in that avenue.
I doubt that you and other like minded individuals will never be satisfied with anything other than a Serbo-Russian investigating team and that will never happen.

pss

pre 13 godina

The only competent authority would be one commissioned by the UN. EULEX's mandate covers Kosovo only whereas we all know these crimes extend into Albania.
(Zoran, 6 April 2011 16:09)
# Comment link

Then that would be the Hague, are you sure you want to extend their mandate to cover new war crime investigations? They still have unfinished business with some of the Serbian war criminals after all.
It is totally illogical to set up a court to hear all war crimes for Yugoslavia and then say but we want a special court for this one investigation.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

I understand that Kouchner is pretty much a criminal who travelled the world to impoverished countries setting up medical resources for his friends businesses to prosper, but this is just one item in particular that he's against the most. If Mladic's wife can be on trial, this man should have been locked up a long time ago.
(Mike_Toronto, 6 April 2011 14:38

Mike,

If you believe Marty's report, then why was Kouchner, as head of "Doctors Without Borders", awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Why has no one brought charges against him? I think you know the answer, but you can't swallow the truth. Do you have nothing better to do than waste your life by continuing on this wild goose chase.

picu

pre 13 godina

There is nothing to be proved, and unlikely that will ever anything be proved. Some people have problems in distinguishing between "allegation" with "evidence". If there is evidence the process proceed fast and smooth, ON THE CONTRARY a party may look for ways to invent some 'truth' at any cost.

Very likely that the latter is case, especially since nothing has moved for nearly 5 months.

With Marty's "evidence" even in 5 years time we will still be in this wondering stage as we are today.

In 50 years time this "wondering stage" will start to become a myth...

highduke

pre 13 godina

Kouchner is a paid Serbophobe who believes in not condemning anti-Serb pogroms, illegal wars against Serbs or investigating crimes against us either, so what he says he believes is more likely a lie. I'm sure he believes that Albanians arent flooding his EU with drugs, guns & prostitutes either.

Mike_Toronto

pre 13 godina

Just do a Google search with the term 'Bernard Kouchner Albanian'. This man should be strung up in the Hague! I've also heard that he has quite strong ties to Albanians, even possibly related. I don't see why anyone who is truly innocent would protest so much. I understand that Kouchner is pretty much a criminal who travelled the world to impoverished countries setting up medical resources for his friends businesses to prosper, but this is just one item in particular that he's against the most. If Mladic's wife can be on trial, this man should have been locked up a long time ago.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

"I have read that report carefully and I expect an investigation, so that the wrong impression can be removed along with the bitter taste of that affair," he was quoted as saying.
--
Still waiting for an investigation. If there is nothing to hide then why so much resistance for an international investigation to start? These people are calling for an investigation in public but are doing everything they can to block it in private.

marty

pre 13 godina

''Last year during his visit to Kosovo, Kouchner reacted by insulting a reporter and laughing outloud when asked to comment on the same subject. ''

I have to admit that it is not that polite for a politician of Kouschner standard to insult a journaist...but if a journalist asks questions of the level of '' mr. kouchner, do you eat children?'' or ''is it true that you are a vampire?'' of course, no matter how proffessional a person can be...if being a moron was illegal, that journalist would already be in jail..

but, of course, Kouchner is a serbophobe...and Marty a albanophobe. Yet, Koucher does not go around writing boombastic reports and then yell toward his coulegues like in that meeting that was held without the present of media, luckyly for marty at the very least... In that meeting, Marty acused Doris Pack to know ''balkans to well'' and being ''to much involved with balkan matters'' and she simply replied that ''south estern '' europe, hence the balkans, had actually been her job during the last 20 years. But Marty sees Balkans and Yugoslavia as a seperate region from south eastern europe...and of course, any one who doubts Marty is an organ harvester. Doris Pack, Swoboda, Kouchner and other european politicans. Sounds like ''The Ultimate Piovra''

Yaroslav

pre 13 godina

Kouchner also denounced in 2005 dick Marty's reports about CIA secret prisons. Something the U.S. admitted to in 2006.

Kouchner has a direct personal interest in denouncing Marty. It would lead to questions about his role in Kosovo and an organization he founded Doctors Without Borders having trained people who later were involved in organ smuggling.

It might also raise question about controversial things his organization did in the past. Such as actively intervening in Haiti against Aristide.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

No one is blocking an investigation, Eulex has undertaken the task. That is the only entity that has both authority and resources to undertake the investigation other than the Hague which would require an extension of its mandate. Serbia does not seem interested in that avenue.
(pss, 6 April 2011 14:30)
--
The only competent authority would be one commissioned by the UN. EULEX's mandate covers Kosovo only whereas we all know these crimes extend into Albania.

New Zealand

pre 13 godina

I think people would do better then to listen to someone who runs a death camp in Kosovo, Kouchner should be in prison.
http://www.cinews.ie/article.php?artid=5415

ida

pre 13 godina

Of course he would deny it as he presided over the time it was taking place. It's a fact that several hundreds of Serbs and Roma were kidnapped while he was in charge and that most of them haven't been found. There were kidnapped Serbs being held in camps according to a Muslim Helsinki representative from Sandzak, Serbia. His people were able to use illegal channels to see and talk to these Serbs held in basements of restaurants and other hidden places, yet in populated areas. He noted they were suddenly being treated better and thought at the time they were being prepared for an exchange. THERE NEVER WAS AN EXCHANGE. So these people have either been killed or they are still imprisoned (more unlikely 10 years later).
Methinks they were being preserved and unbeaten so their kidneys would be in decent shape.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Then that would be the Hague, are you sure you want to extend their mandate to cover new war crime investigations? They still have unfinished business with some of the Serbian war criminals after all.
It is totally illogical to set up a court to hear all war crimes for Yugoslavia and then say but we want a special court for this one investigation.
(pss, 6 April 2011 18:00)
============================

Not for Hague but not for the reasons you stated. Hague destroyed evidence and tried to dismiss the whole thing so they would not suitable to investigate anything now. I doubt they would even prosecute adequately anyone beside Serbs.

This liar Bernard will be found out soon enough. Just twitches from a ding man.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I saw that former interview online, and.., to be honest, usaually I am a sceptic about allegations of this kind.

but Kouchners reaction was so suspicious that I thought there might be something to it.

and Mr.Marty has already shown before that he is no clown in that regard. so, I am quite eager to see what a real investigation will bring up.

so far, I don´t believe Mr.Marty would bring up allegations like these, if there were not some really substantial evidence. he knows he would make himself a fool if he did so, and personally I don´t think he would do it so easily.

let´s just see what future brings.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

If you believe Marty's report, then why was Kouchner, as head of "Doctors Without Borders", awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Why has no one brought charges against him? I think you know the answer, but you can't swallow the truth. Do you have nothing better to do than waste your life by continuing on this wild goose chase.
(The Count of Kosova, 7 April 2011 06:49)
=============================

For the same reason Thaci and his merry men are still walking free. Politics and lack of investigation.
Nobody ever investigated anything these people did for obvious reasons. But one day we will get to the bottom of all this and the laughing clown will go down in disgrace along with the rest.