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Saturday, 02.04.2011.

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Libyan govt. rejects rebel offer of ceasefire

The Libyan government has said it will not accept a rebel offer of a ceasefire if its forces left all cities.

Izvor: Deutsche Welle

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Ataman

pre 13 godina

Also I dare you to go to Lockerbie and say that.
(Ian,UK, 2 April 2011 15:38)

I am still not 100% sure regarding Lockerbie. The nose of the airplane fell off because of the rapid decompression and catastrophic door failure on the right side, the explosive supposed to be found on the left side causing a hole no larger than what a shotgun would produce. Well could be that the catastrophic front baggage door failure was the cause, not the result. The airplane was a 100-series 747, known for that problem.

This does not mean Gaddafi did not try - maybe yes. But he could just agree into a deal later. The investigation was botched from the begin on.

Either way - after this idiotic new war in Libya I would suggest everyone NOT to use French, British or U.S. - based carriers for flying. For flights to the States use German or Asian or be inventive... just in case. Because Gaddafi may try it. Is it "again" or inspired by the one he maybe wasn't to blame - up to you to decide.

pss

pre 13 godina

As I like to compare news in the archives from today, I find it interesting that one of the lead stories this time last year was Tadic's visit to Gaddafi's summer home.

wtf

pre 13 godina

There are differences among dictators and "dictators" in the arab world as well as there are differences here (Tadic regime f.ex. Dont expect a fair democratic election any time soon, once in the €U however, you wont need any elections at all).

"The new leader of Libya's opposition military spent the past two decades in suburban Virginia (state of CIA)but felt compelled — even in his late-60s — to return to the battlefield in his homeland, according to people who know him."

"Khalifa Hifter was once a top military officer for Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, but after a disastrous military adventure in Chad in the late 1980s, Hifter switched to the anti-Gadhafi opposition. In the early 1990s, he moved to suburban Virginia, where he established a life but maintained ties to anti-Gadhafi groups."http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27795.htm

Some facts about these "rebels" soon to take over a detached Kosovo of their own, but an oli-rich one, with a little help from their western "friends". As to Gadaffi sure if there where any evidence for the aggression pact NATOs and western PR-firm claims about "atrocities" we should have had them down our throats 24/7, Diana Johnstone:

"False Pretext Number One: "to protect civilians".

The falsity of this pretext is obvious, first of all, because the UN Resolution authorizing military action "to protect civilians" was drawn up by France – whose objective was clearly regime change – and its Western allies. Had the real concern of the UN Security Council been to "protect innocent lives", it would have, could have, should have sent a strong neutral observer mission to find out what was really happening in Libya. There was no proof of rebel claims that the Qaddafi regime was slaughtering civilians. Had there been visible proof of such atrocities, we can be sure that they would have been shown regularly on prime time television. We have seen no such proof. A UN fact-finding mission could have very rapidly set the record straight, and the Security Council could then have acted on the basis of factual information rather than of claims by rebels seeking international aid for their cause.

Instead, the Security Council, now little more than an instrument of Western powers, rushed ahead with sanctions, referral of alleged present or expected "crimes against humanity" to the International Criminal Court, and finally an authorization of a "no-fly zone" which Western powers were certain to interpret as a license to wage all-out war against Libya."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23983

Another "appalling" difference is Libya's social welfare program and sub Saharan investments in infrastructural projects -without any of those conditions IMF strangle their victims with. Add oil and a possibility to infiltrate the Arabian spring here and in Syria and put it all together and you have a sovereign state clearly targeted by "regime change" .

Ian,UK

pre 13 godina

"Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith."

That is a bit like say Richard Nixon is truly an inspiration for Marxist loving people world-wide.

Also I dare you to go to Lockerbie and say that.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.
(highduke, 2 April 2011 14:49)

All these Arab dictators are truly an inspiration for the rest of the world.They rule with emergency laws,they lock up any dissident,they've got a job for life for themselves and their families,they amass $billions in foreign banks and every one lives happily ever after.

I think Gaddafi is negotiating his exit.My feeling is he might ask Britain to provide him with asylum.Maybe his close friend Blair can put
him in the spare room of his residence if is not taken already by Mubarak.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.
(highduke, 2 April 2011 14:49)

All these Arab dictators are truly an inspiration for the rest of the world.They rule with emergency laws,they lock up any dissident,they've got a job for life for themselves and their families,they amass $billions in foreign banks and every one lives happily ever after.

I think Gaddafi is negotiating his exit.My feeling is he might ask Britain to provide him with asylum.Maybe his close friend Blair can put
him in the spare room of his residence if is not taken already by Mubarak.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.
(highduke, 2 April 2011 14:49)

All these Arab dictators are truly an inspiration for the rest of the world.They rule with emergency laws,they lock up any dissident,they've got a job for life for themselves and their families,they amass $billions in foreign banks and every one lives happily ever after.

I think Gaddafi is negotiating his exit.My feeling is he might ask Britain to provide him with asylum.Maybe his close friend Blair can put
him in the spare room of his residence if is not taken already by Mubarak.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.
(highduke, 2 April 2011 14:49)

All these Arab dictators are truly an inspiration for the rest of the world.They rule with emergency laws,they lock up any dissident,they've got a job for life for themselves and their families,they amass $billions in foreign banks and every one lives happily ever after.

I think Gaddafi is negotiating his exit.My feeling is he might ask Britain to provide him with asylum.Maybe his close friend Blair can put
him in the spare room of his residence if is not taken already by Mubarak.

Ian,UK

pre 13 godina

"Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith."

That is a bit like say Richard Nixon is truly an inspiration for Marxist loving people world-wide.

Also I dare you to go to Lockerbie and say that.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.

wtf

pre 13 godina

There are differences among dictators and "dictators" in the arab world as well as there are differences here (Tadic regime f.ex. Dont expect a fair democratic election any time soon, once in the €U however, you wont need any elections at all).

"The new leader of Libya's opposition military spent the past two decades in suburban Virginia (state of CIA)but felt compelled — even in his late-60s — to return to the battlefield in his homeland, according to people who know him."

"Khalifa Hifter was once a top military officer for Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, but after a disastrous military adventure in Chad in the late 1980s, Hifter switched to the anti-Gadhafi opposition. In the early 1990s, he moved to suburban Virginia, where he established a life but maintained ties to anti-Gadhafi groups."http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27795.htm

Some facts about these "rebels" soon to take over a detached Kosovo of their own, but an oli-rich one, with a little help from their western "friends". As to Gadaffi sure if there where any evidence for the aggression pact NATOs and western PR-firm claims about "atrocities" we should have had them down our throats 24/7, Diana Johnstone:

"False Pretext Number One: "to protect civilians".

The falsity of this pretext is obvious, first of all, because the UN Resolution authorizing military action "to protect civilians" was drawn up by France – whose objective was clearly regime change – and its Western allies. Had the real concern of the UN Security Council been to "protect innocent lives", it would have, could have, should have sent a strong neutral observer mission to find out what was really happening in Libya. There was no proof of rebel claims that the Qaddafi regime was slaughtering civilians. Had there been visible proof of such atrocities, we can be sure that they would have been shown regularly on prime time television. We have seen no such proof. A UN fact-finding mission could have very rapidly set the record straight, and the Security Council could then have acted on the basis of factual information rather than of claims by rebels seeking international aid for their cause.

Instead, the Security Council, now little more than an instrument of Western powers, rushed ahead with sanctions, referral of alleged present or expected "crimes against humanity" to the International Criminal Court, and finally an authorization of a "no-fly zone" which Western powers were certain to interpret as a license to wage all-out war against Libya."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23983

Another "appalling" difference is Libya's social welfare program and sub Saharan investments in infrastructural projects -without any of those conditions IMF strangle their victims with. Add oil and a possibility to infiltrate the Arabian spring here and in Syria and put it all together and you have a sovereign state clearly targeted by "regime change" .

pss

pre 13 godina

As I like to compare news in the archives from today, I find it interesting that one of the lead stories this time last year was Tadic's visit to Gaddafi's summer home.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Also I dare you to go to Lockerbie and say that.
(Ian,UK, 2 April 2011 15:38)

I am still not 100% sure regarding Lockerbie. The nose of the airplane fell off because of the rapid decompression and catastrophic door failure on the right side, the explosive supposed to be found on the left side causing a hole no larger than what a shotgun would produce. Well could be that the catastrophic front baggage door failure was the cause, not the result. The airplane was a 100-series 747, known for that problem.

This does not mean Gaddafi did not try - maybe yes. But he could just agree into a deal later. The investigation was botched from the begin on.

Either way - after this idiotic new war in Libya I would suggest everyone NOT to use French, British or U.S. - based carriers for flying. For flights to the States use German or Asian or be inventive... just in case. Because Gaddafi may try it. Is it "again" or inspired by the one he maybe wasn't to blame - up to you to decide.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.
(highduke, 2 April 2011 14:49)

All these Arab dictators are truly an inspiration for the rest of the world.They rule with emergency laws,they lock up any dissident,they've got a job for life for themselves and their families,they amass $billions in foreign banks and every one lives happily ever after.

I think Gaddafi is negotiating his exit.My feeling is he might ask Britain to provide him with asylum.Maybe his close friend Blair can put
him in the spare room of his residence if is not taken already by Mubarak.

Ian,UK

pre 13 godina

"Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith."

That is a bit like say Richard Nixon is truly an inspiration for Marxist loving people world-wide.

Also I dare you to go to Lockerbie and say that.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Gadhafi is trully an inspiration for freedom loving people world-wide of any faith. The Western-backed al Qaida insurgency is losing bc only losers want a cease-fire but sooner or later they will take him out like all anti-Saudi Arab Muslim leaders. We Serbs wont forget our Arab Muslim friends, Saddam the Martyr and Gadhafi bc we aren't anti-Arab/Muslim, we are against Muslim imperialism like Saddam & Gadhafi.
(highduke, 2 April 2011 14:49)

All these Arab dictators are truly an inspiration for the rest of the world.They rule with emergency laws,they lock up any dissident,they've got a job for life for themselves and their families,they amass $billions in foreign banks and every one lives happily ever after.

I think Gaddafi is negotiating his exit.My feeling is he might ask Britain to provide him with asylum.Maybe his close friend Blair can put
him in the spare room of his residence if is not taken already by Mubarak.

wtf

pre 13 godina

There are differences among dictators and "dictators" in the arab world as well as there are differences here (Tadic regime f.ex. Dont expect a fair democratic election any time soon, once in the €U however, you wont need any elections at all).

"The new leader of Libya's opposition military spent the past two decades in suburban Virginia (state of CIA)but felt compelled — even in his late-60s — to return to the battlefield in his homeland, according to people who know him."

"Khalifa Hifter was once a top military officer for Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, but after a disastrous military adventure in Chad in the late 1980s, Hifter switched to the anti-Gadhafi opposition. In the early 1990s, he moved to suburban Virginia, where he established a life but maintained ties to anti-Gadhafi groups."http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27795.htm

Some facts about these "rebels" soon to take over a detached Kosovo of their own, but an oli-rich one, with a little help from their western "friends". As to Gadaffi sure if there where any evidence for the aggression pact NATOs and western PR-firm claims about "atrocities" we should have had them down our throats 24/7, Diana Johnstone:

"False Pretext Number One: "to protect civilians".

The falsity of this pretext is obvious, first of all, because the UN Resolution authorizing military action "to protect civilians" was drawn up by France – whose objective was clearly regime change – and its Western allies. Had the real concern of the UN Security Council been to "protect innocent lives", it would have, could have, should have sent a strong neutral observer mission to find out what was really happening in Libya. There was no proof of rebel claims that the Qaddafi regime was slaughtering civilians. Had there been visible proof of such atrocities, we can be sure that they would have been shown regularly on prime time television. We have seen no such proof. A UN fact-finding mission could have very rapidly set the record straight, and the Security Council could then have acted on the basis of factual information rather than of claims by rebels seeking international aid for their cause.

Instead, the Security Council, now little more than an instrument of Western powers, rushed ahead with sanctions, referral of alleged present or expected "crimes against humanity" to the International Criminal Court, and finally an authorization of a "no-fly zone" which Western powers were certain to interpret as a license to wage all-out war against Libya."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23983

Another "appalling" difference is Libya's social welfare program and sub Saharan investments in infrastructural projects -without any of those conditions IMF strangle their victims with. Add oil and a possibility to infiltrate the Arabian spring here and in Syria and put it all together and you have a sovereign state clearly targeted by "regime change" .

pss

pre 13 godina

As I like to compare news in the archives from today, I find it interesting that one of the lead stories this time last year was Tadic's visit to Gaddafi's summer home.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Also I dare you to go to Lockerbie and say that.
(Ian,UK, 2 April 2011 15:38)

I am still not 100% sure regarding Lockerbie. The nose of the airplane fell off because of the rapid decompression and catastrophic door failure on the right side, the explosive supposed to be found on the left side causing a hole no larger than what a shotgun would produce. Well could be that the catastrophic front baggage door failure was the cause, not the result. The airplane was a 100-series 747, known for that problem.

This does not mean Gaddafi did not try - maybe yes. But he could just agree into a deal later. The investigation was botched from the begin on.

Either way - after this idiotic new war in Libya I would suggest everyone NOT to use French, British or U.S. - based carriers for flying. For flights to the States use German or Asian or be inventive... just in case. Because Gaddafi may try it. Is it "again" or inspired by the one he maybe wasn't to blame - up to you to decide.