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Monday, 28.03.2011.

09:30

Tadić touches on northern Kosovo

President Boris Tadić stated in Brussels on Sunday that "any agreement reached with Kosovo must be based on the reality in the field".

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doodah

pre 13 godina

THIS IS NOT GOING TO FLY,MY DEAR ALBANIANS!

Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.
(CG, 30 March 2011 20:23)
Today you wait,
You tell your children to wait,
One day you retire and you wait,
You tell your childrens' children to wait,
You become old and feeble but yet you wait,
One day you die and the you no longer wait,
hopefully your children and their children will honor your memory but not be so foolish to waste their life "waiting"
Kosovo will never be Serbian again.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.''


Whatever ...who cares. How is Chinese prosperity gonna help serbia anyway? Yet i consider the chinese friends to Albanians, they gave us brand new anti air and anti tank rockets back in 1996...probably that was why serb migs did not dare patrol around Kosovo. I don't care about Russian and Chinese policies...Europe is Europe. Actually i admire the chinese role in global politics...they are totally neutral.

CG

pre 13 godina

There will be no swap of Serbian territory(Mitrovica) against Serbian territory(Presevo),but there will be a swap of place of residence of all Kosovo Albanians from Prizren,Djakovica,Pec,Pristina etc . to Tirana or Anadolia where they came from in the first place!
Our Southern province is de jure Serbian territory (UN1244) while UN,NATO,EU are blocked four our province!
Just imagine that temerity,Albanians accusing us of being nationalists for defending our territory while they are trying to steal it!

THIS IS NOT GOING TO FLY,MY DEAR ALBANIANS!

Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.

iliri

pre 13 godina

Actually Tadic implied that Tirana and Belgrade should settle the issue...Albanian media claims Tadic implied that a trade of territories could be possible so that the Serb-Albanian issue is settled once and for all...even if hypothetically official Tirana agrees to discuss such proposal, you could be sure that we ordinary Albanian people will be against such talks and will respond quite harshly to Tirana, ...when serbs used to be on high ground they never approached us for peace, instead they used bayonets and bullets, now that they are messed up with the muslims in Bosnia and Sandjak, Albanians in Presevo and Hungarians in Vojvodina etc, they want to trade indipendene over north of Mitrovica...no Tadic, you smart bird, there will be no talks between Tirana and Belgrade...and yes, one side will lose everything and one side will win everything back. 10 years ago, Belgrade approached Tirana for a possible trade of territories, when the war broke out in presevo, and Tirana refused any kind of such solution...there will be the same answer, Mitrovica stays in Kosovo and Presevo stays in Serbia. But this does not mean we will give up Presevo...some day we will unite even if it will take another 100 years. We have all the history ahead of us.

lukebuyenovich

pre 13 godina

Mr.Tadic answered questions with clarity and dignity,while
realizing HE was in hostile environment.My comments are not intended
to correct Mr.Tadic in any way,however,they are addressed to those
sponsoring Independence for Kosovo.On the question:"Do you see Pristina side of argument"? The answer is yes,through the lens of reality,murders
and organs trafficking.

Mirel from Albania

pre 13 godina

At least Tadic pushed down 50 more years the conflict Alb-Serb in 1913 and not at 1948 where the some historians are saying.We albanians are laughing with the explaniaion that Albanians flee in Kosovo after WWII!!!! I have lived under Hoxha's regime and I can tell you that a bird couln't go outside Albania not thousands of people like these historians are climing.A handful of people who manage to cross the border where not stupid to live in Kosova when they can be in USA. And I can tell you that were less than 200 people ,not 200 thousand like historians are saying.
At least Tadic tells what every wise person knows all along that Albanians have been majority in Kosova in 1913.The census of 1906 and 1920 conferms this.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011)

Like the majority of Serb posters here your ignorance is astounding.
Greeks in Albania are concentrated in the area of Dropull, comrpised of about 25-30 villages, alongside the Greek border. There are also a couple of villages in the Himara region, in the Albanian riviera, that consider themselves Greek. That is it. There is not even a town in Albania that is majority Greek.

I don't know where you got 1/3 of Albania is Greek (actually I do)

Milan T

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011 03:29)
I have yet to see any Albanians claiming this, I do see where Serbs try to link Kosovo indpendence with the proverbial "Pandora's Box" that never materialized, even after Russia's stunts in Georgia, no one links it with Kosovo.
Your comparison, while superior in your mind will fall flat without raising any attention.
(pss, 29 March 2011 12:04)

Why don't you open your eyes and read a little closer. Albanains think that just because you have a majority in a region of another country, you can claim it as yours. Well, that is what will happen in Albania if you keep up this claim.

Albanians have no history in Kosovo as Serbians do. You're just a bunch of land grabbers. Go back to Albania and live in your own country. Just look all around Europe. You cause problems everywhere. You are looked at as the trouble-makers of Europe. That is why all of the prisons in Europe are flooded with you cousins.

pss

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011 03:29)
I have yet to see any Albanians claiming this, I do see where Serbs try to link Kosovo indpendence with the proverbial "Pandora's Box" that never materialized, even after Russia's stunts in Georgia, no one links it with Kosovo.
Your comparison, while superior in your mind will fall flat without raising any attention.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Albanians are in their own country,The Slavic occupying tribe of the Sarbans should leave and get back to the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan where you guys came from.
(Mark, 29 March 2011 01:25)

The Caucasian ocuppying tribe of the Shqiptars/Arnauts should leave Europe and get back to the mountains of Caucassus, where you guys are from. Be happy with your brothers in language and culture: Circassians, Chechens and Abkhazians.

Nexh

pre 13 godina

I personaly think that some kind of referendum would have been nice.
Ask the people where would like to go and change the damn borders and let's hope once and for all we would have a pieace of mind and move on with out lives.

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

Mark!

Then those Albanians should leave Serbia and return to their own country named Albania.
(Another Canadian Serb, 28 March 2011 22:40)

OK, and those Serbian in north of Ibar can move to their country called Serbia. I will be happy if they take the other Serbs living in south too.

Milan T

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.

Mark

pre 13 godina

Mark!

Then those Albanians should leave Serbia and return to their own country named Albania.
(Another Canadian Serb, 28 March 2011 22:40)

Albanians are in their own country,The Slavic occupying tribe of the Sarbans should leave and get back to the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan where you guys came from.

arti

pre 13 godina

The Serbs in North Kosova should leave Kosova and return to their own country named Serbia.

You Serbs are only fooling yourselves that you control North Kosova.
The ones firmly in control are: 1. KFOR and 2. KP.

KFOR takes orders from Washington and KP takes orders from Prishtina. All that you control are the organized crime gangs, whose days are numbered. Do you think EU will let you in, if you continue sponsoring the criminal groups?

lili

pre 13 godina

President Tadic admits the 100yearsconflict.good start for the beginning of a true approch!In fine you serbs admit that you began war in Toplica,Nish and sandjak,that were according to your authors mainly albanian in that time.
So we just tell you,nada for noth mitrovica,no Nish and Toplica again!

Mark

pre 13 godina

That is the difference Mark, both Serbians living in the North of KiM and those ethnic Albanians in Presevo all vote in Serbian elections and are integrated into Serbian structures. Now go and focus on something that you control and leave the rest alone. That is the reality.
(Zoran, 28 March 2011 20:00)

If that was the reality you wouldn't hear the Albanians of Presevo Valley asking for the same status that the serbs in N.Kosovo are trying to get. Don't fool yourself in thinking that Albanians of Presevo Valley like to be under Serbia.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Tadic forgot to mention the Albanians in Presevo Valley. Ask them if they want to be ruled by Serbia.
(Mark, 28 March 2011 18:57)
--
They have already been asked and their answer was to vote in the last Serbian election winning two seats in parliament. However, the north of KiM overwhelmingly rejected elections organised by Pristina. How many Serbians voted? 7 or 8? And that was probably due to vote rigging.

That is the difference Mark, both Serbians living in the North of KiM and those ethnic Albanians in Presevo all vote in Serbian elections and are integrated into Serbian structures. Now go and focus on something that you control and leave the rest alone. That is the reality.

lids

pre 13 godina

President Tadic in a way is showing to Sandzak what they have to do to achieve independence.
(ivan, 28 March 2011 16:20)

Wow-albanian admits Tadic is his president....and we would so gladly send you all of Rashkas muslims..for brothehood sake,but they don`t like you much..

Mark

pre 13 godina

The reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".

Tadic forgot to mention the Albanians in Presevo Valley. Ask them if they want to be ruled by Serbia.

laki bani

pre 13 godina

I think, or better I am fully convinced that Tadic is as pure nationalist as were his predecessors. He is talking about a historic agreement; as how both sides should come out as winners! This is nothing but demagogy; let’s recall just 12 years ago brutal massacres, expulsions, raping and killing anything with prefix Albanian! Nonetheless, Mr. Tadic will be continuing to mark NATO bombing campaign anniversary without even mentioning “deeds” committed by his nation towards an unarmed entire population making no difference if they were children, women elderly etc. He is being unfortunately worming welcomed by the European demagogy by “forgetting” the source of the permanent trouble makers in Balkans; but I will ensure potential readers of this forum that what ever the outcome would emerge, Serbia with its oppressive nature will stop producing troubles and being unhappy. Finally, Tadic is pretending that Serbia loses something, however is fully aware that the conflict dates 100 years ago, but he does not mention where did the conflict start, for your information it started far northern than today’s “northern Mitrovica- it was a bit southern to Belgrade. So that, the answer comes by itself; what does Serbia lose, having in mind these facts?

Zoran

pre 13 godina

I know for a fact that you did not like what your President Tadic said, but you are trying to twist things a little , so as to make Tadic look good.
(Agim Kelmendi, 28 March 2011 13:10)
--
How do you know for a fact that I don't like what he said? In fact, I don't have a problem with it. From a Serbian point of view, KiM remains a part of Serbia with K-Albanians ruling their regions (self-rule) and Serbians ruling the rest while legally it remains Serbian. There will be technical agreements in place for freedom of movement (people plus goods) and other aspects to improve the lives of those living in the province. Serbian companies will operate throughout the territory and Serbian license plates will be accepted.

If you believe "Kosova" as it is now is independent, then as I have mentioned numerous times, I am happy with that. It certainly makes it much easier for these negotiations as your version of independence is nowhere near what I would expect from a truly independent nation.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Serbia will continue to claim sovereignty while ethnic Albanians will continue to claim independence, however, the truth is somewhere in between. More than autonomy, less than independence is self-fulfilling but lets not mention it during these delicate negotiations (oops, I meant dialogue).
(Zoran, 28 March 2011 10:07)

Serbia can continue on claiming sovernighty, but we are not claiming Independence since we got it allready.
I know for a fact that you did not like what your President Tadic said, but you are trying to twist things a little , so as to make Tadic look good.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

no, Mr.Tadic, wrong.

there is nothing to give away as a present. all of it, the whole territory of KiM is serbian territory, and do not dare to play around with it.

just in case Mr.Tadic would try to let southern KiM go, that would make him a traitor. there cannot be any discussion about it, and those phrases about "reality on the field" are anti-serb propaganda.

realities change, serbian territory will stay serbian territory.

Serbs, beware of Tadic!

Another Canadian Serb

pre 13 godina

FREDOM

I finished reading post and have come to the conclusion that you are a TROLL.

Your statement is rhetorical.

On a side note, i would acknowledge that youR solution is for Serbians to integrate with Kosovars, or you wish for all Serbs to leave the province of Kosovo.

What exactly is so hard for you to understand with the fact that Serbs don't wish to live with you.

Kosovo Serbs just want their FREEDOM ftom Albanians.

Happy trolling FREEDOM

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

As I allways thought and said.

Serbs/Serbia are not interested in thier history or serbs but only in taking land.

Their so-called Jerusalem is not so important anymore as long as you get the North of Kosova but even that will not become a reality.

Tung

Creative Rationality

pre 13 godina

I think Tadic hit a nerve in Serbia with this comment. I guess Serbia is realizing that they will see no light under tunnel unless they stick to reality on the ground that it is based, more or less, on historical past. Therefore the recognition of Kosovo now is imminent. more than ever before. From an Western perspective this had to be done earlier,...but as they say..."better late than never". The sooner Serbia does this step they will be freed from the self imposed ghetto or isolation.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

According to him, that reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".
--
He took the words right out of my mouth. This process will cement the reality on the ground and then unblock those issues making life difficult for the residents of KiM. Serbia will continue to claim sovereignty while ethnic Albanians will continue to claim independence, however, the truth is somewhere in between. More than autonomy, less than independence is self-fulfilling but lets not mention it during these delicate negotiations (oops, I meant dialogue).

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

According to him, that reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".

Mr. Tadic is very easy to solve 100 years of conflict once and for all. Just swap Preshevo for northern Mitro and both can live in peace.
But, if you think you can just carve north of Ibar is a no go.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

According to him, that reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".

Mr. Tadic is very easy to solve 100 years of conflict once and for all. Just swap Preshevo for northern Mitro and both can live in peace.
But, if you think you can just carve north of Ibar is a no go.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Serbia will continue to claim sovereignty while ethnic Albanians will continue to claim independence, however, the truth is somewhere in between. More than autonomy, less than independence is self-fulfilling but lets not mention it during these delicate negotiations (oops, I meant dialogue).
(Zoran, 28 March 2011 10:07)

Serbia can continue on claiming sovernighty, but we are not claiming Independence since we got it allready.
I know for a fact that you did not like what your President Tadic said, but you are trying to twist things a little , so as to make Tadic look good.

laki bani

pre 13 godina

I think, or better I am fully convinced that Tadic is as pure nationalist as were his predecessors. He is talking about a historic agreement; as how both sides should come out as winners! This is nothing but demagogy; let’s recall just 12 years ago brutal massacres, expulsions, raping and killing anything with prefix Albanian! Nonetheless, Mr. Tadic will be continuing to mark NATO bombing campaign anniversary without even mentioning “deeds” committed by his nation towards an unarmed entire population making no difference if they were children, women elderly etc. He is being unfortunately worming welcomed by the European demagogy by “forgetting” the source of the permanent trouble makers in Balkans; but I will ensure potential readers of this forum that what ever the outcome would emerge, Serbia with its oppressive nature will stop producing troubles and being unhappy. Finally, Tadic is pretending that Serbia loses something, however is fully aware that the conflict dates 100 years ago, but he does not mention where did the conflict start, for your information it started far northern than today’s “northern Mitrovica- it was a bit southern to Belgrade. So that, the answer comes by itself; what does Serbia lose, having in mind these facts?

Creative Rationality

pre 13 godina

I think Tadic hit a nerve in Serbia with this comment. I guess Serbia is realizing that they will see no light under tunnel unless they stick to reality on the ground that it is based, more or less, on historical past. Therefore the recognition of Kosovo now is imminent. more than ever before. From an Western perspective this had to be done earlier,...but as they say..."better late than never". The sooner Serbia does this step they will be freed from the self imposed ghetto or isolation.

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

As I allways thought and said.

Serbs/Serbia are not interested in thier history or serbs but only in taking land.

Their so-called Jerusalem is not so important anymore as long as you get the North of Kosova but even that will not become a reality.

Tung

Mark

pre 13 godina

The reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".

Tadic forgot to mention the Albanians in Presevo Valley. Ask them if they want to be ruled by Serbia.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 13 godina

FREDOM

I finished reading post and have come to the conclusion that you are a TROLL.

Your statement is rhetorical.

On a side note, i would acknowledge that youR solution is for Serbians to integrate with Kosovars, or you wish for all Serbs to leave the province of Kosovo.

What exactly is so hard for you to understand with the fact that Serbs don't wish to live with you.

Kosovo Serbs just want their FREEDOM ftom Albanians.

Happy trolling FREEDOM

Jovan

pre 13 godina

no, Mr.Tadic, wrong.

there is nothing to give away as a present. all of it, the whole territory of KiM is serbian territory, and do not dare to play around with it.

just in case Mr.Tadic would try to let southern KiM go, that would make him a traitor. there cannot be any discussion about it, and those phrases about "reality on the field" are anti-serb propaganda.

realities change, serbian territory will stay serbian territory.

Serbs, beware of Tadic!

Zoran

pre 13 godina

I know for a fact that you did not like what your President Tadic said, but you are trying to twist things a little , so as to make Tadic look good.
(Agim Kelmendi, 28 March 2011 13:10)
--
How do you know for a fact that I don't like what he said? In fact, I don't have a problem with it. From a Serbian point of view, KiM remains a part of Serbia with K-Albanians ruling their regions (self-rule) and Serbians ruling the rest while legally it remains Serbian. There will be technical agreements in place for freedom of movement (people plus goods) and other aspects to improve the lives of those living in the province. Serbian companies will operate throughout the territory and Serbian license plates will be accepted.

If you believe "Kosova" as it is now is independent, then as I have mentioned numerous times, I am happy with that. It certainly makes it much easier for these negotiations as your version of independence is nowhere near what I would expect from a truly independent nation.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

According to him, that reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".
--
He took the words right out of my mouth. This process will cement the reality on the ground and then unblock those issues making life difficult for the residents of KiM. Serbia will continue to claim sovereignty while ethnic Albanians will continue to claim independence, however, the truth is somewhere in between. More than autonomy, less than independence is self-fulfilling but lets not mention it during these delicate negotiations (oops, I meant dialogue).

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Tadic forgot to mention the Albanians in Presevo Valley. Ask them if they want to be ruled by Serbia.
(Mark, 28 March 2011 18:57)
--
They have already been asked and their answer was to vote in the last Serbian election winning two seats in parliament. However, the north of KiM overwhelmingly rejected elections organised by Pristina. How many Serbians voted? 7 or 8? And that was probably due to vote rigging.

That is the difference Mark, both Serbians living in the North of KiM and those ethnic Albanians in Presevo all vote in Serbian elections and are integrated into Serbian structures. Now go and focus on something that you control and leave the rest alone. That is the reality.

Mark

pre 13 godina

That is the difference Mark, both Serbians living in the North of KiM and those ethnic Albanians in Presevo all vote in Serbian elections and are integrated into Serbian structures. Now go and focus on something that you control and leave the rest alone. That is the reality.
(Zoran, 28 March 2011 20:00)

If that was the reality you wouldn't hear the Albanians of Presevo Valley asking for the same status that the serbs in N.Kosovo are trying to get. Don't fool yourself in thinking that Albanians of Presevo Valley like to be under Serbia.

lids

pre 13 godina

President Tadic in a way is showing to Sandzak what they have to do to achieve independence.
(ivan, 28 March 2011 16:20)

Wow-albanian admits Tadic is his president....and we would so gladly send you all of Rashkas muslims..for brothehood sake,but they don`t like you much..

lili

pre 13 godina

President Tadic admits the 100yearsconflict.good start for the beginning of a true approch!In fine you serbs admit that you began war in Toplica,Nish and sandjak,that were according to your authors mainly albanian in that time.
So we just tell you,nada for noth mitrovica,no Nish and Toplica again!

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Albanians are in their own country,The Slavic occupying tribe of the Sarbans should leave and get back to the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan where you guys came from.
(Mark, 29 March 2011 01:25)

The Caucasian ocuppying tribe of the Shqiptars/Arnauts should leave Europe and get back to the mountains of Caucassus, where you guys are from. Be happy with your brothers in language and culture: Circassians, Chechens and Abkhazians.

Milan T

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.

arti

pre 13 godina

The Serbs in North Kosova should leave Kosova and return to their own country named Serbia.

You Serbs are only fooling yourselves that you control North Kosova.
The ones firmly in control are: 1. KFOR and 2. KP.

KFOR takes orders from Washington and KP takes orders from Prishtina. All that you control are the organized crime gangs, whose days are numbered. Do you think EU will let you in, if you continue sponsoring the criminal groups?

Mark

pre 13 godina

Mark!

Then those Albanians should leave Serbia and return to their own country named Albania.
(Another Canadian Serb, 28 March 2011 22:40)

Albanians are in their own country,The Slavic occupying tribe of the Sarbans should leave and get back to the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan where you guys came from.

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

Mark!

Then those Albanians should leave Serbia and return to their own country named Albania.
(Another Canadian Serb, 28 March 2011 22:40)

OK, and those Serbian in north of Ibar can move to their country called Serbia. I will be happy if they take the other Serbs living in south too.

Milan T

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011 03:29)
I have yet to see any Albanians claiming this, I do see where Serbs try to link Kosovo indpendence with the proverbial "Pandora's Box" that never materialized, even after Russia's stunts in Georgia, no one links it with Kosovo.
Your comparison, while superior in your mind will fall flat without raising any attention.
(pss, 29 March 2011 12:04)

Why don't you open your eyes and read a little closer. Albanains think that just because you have a majority in a region of another country, you can claim it as yours. Well, that is what will happen in Albania if you keep up this claim.

Albanians have no history in Kosovo as Serbians do. You're just a bunch of land grabbers. Go back to Albania and live in your own country. Just look all around Europe. You cause problems everywhere. You are looked at as the trouble-makers of Europe. That is why all of the prisons in Europe are flooded with you cousins.

Nexh

pre 13 godina

I personaly think that some kind of referendum would have been nice.
Ask the people where would like to go and change the damn borders and let's hope once and for all we would have a pieace of mind and move on with out lives.

pss

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011 03:29)
I have yet to see any Albanians claiming this, I do see where Serbs try to link Kosovo indpendence with the proverbial "Pandora's Box" that never materialized, even after Russia's stunts in Georgia, no one links it with Kosovo.
Your comparison, while superior in your mind will fall flat without raising any attention.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011)

Like the majority of Serb posters here your ignorance is astounding.
Greeks in Albania are concentrated in the area of Dropull, comrpised of about 25-30 villages, alongside the Greek border. There are also a couple of villages in the Himara region, in the Albanian riviera, that consider themselves Greek. That is it. There is not even a town in Albania that is majority Greek.

I don't know where you got 1/3 of Albania is Greek (actually I do)

Mirel from Albania

pre 13 godina

At least Tadic pushed down 50 more years the conflict Alb-Serb in 1913 and not at 1948 where the some historians are saying.We albanians are laughing with the explaniaion that Albanians flee in Kosovo after WWII!!!! I have lived under Hoxha's regime and I can tell you that a bird couln't go outside Albania not thousands of people like these historians are climing.A handful of people who manage to cross the border where not stupid to live in Kosova when they can be in USA. And I can tell you that were less than 200 people ,not 200 thousand like historians are saying.
At least Tadic tells what every wise person knows all along that Albanians have been majority in Kosova in 1913.The census of 1906 and 1920 conferms this.

CG

pre 13 godina

There will be no swap of Serbian territory(Mitrovica) against Serbian territory(Presevo),but there will be a swap of place of residence of all Kosovo Albanians from Prizren,Djakovica,Pec,Pristina etc . to Tirana or Anadolia where they came from in the first place!
Our Southern province is de jure Serbian territory (UN1244) while UN,NATO,EU are blocked four our province!
Just imagine that temerity,Albanians accusing us of being nationalists for defending our territory while they are trying to steal it!

THIS IS NOT GOING TO FLY,MY DEAR ALBANIANS!

Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.

lukebuyenovich

pre 13 godina

Mr.Tadic answered questions with clarity and dignity,while
realizing HE was in hostile environment.My comments are not intended
to correct Mr.Tadic in any way,however,they are addressed to those
sponsoring Independence for Kosovo.On the question:"Do you see Pristina side of argument"? The answer is yes,through the lens of reality,murders
and organs trafficking.

iliri

pre 13 godina

Actually Tadic implied that Tirana and Belgrade should settle the issue...Albanian media claims Tadic implied that a trade of territories could be possible so that the Serb-Albanian issue is settled once and for all...even if hypothetically official Tirana agrees to discuss such proposal, you could be sure that we ordinary Albanian people will be against such talks and will respond quite harshly to Tirana, ...when serbs used to be on high ground they never approached us for peace, instead they used bayonets and bullets, now that they are messed up with the muslims in Bosnia and Sandjak, Albanians in Presevo and Hungarians in Vojvodina etc, they want to trade indipendene over north of Mitrovica...no Tadic, you smart bird, there will be no talks between Tirana and Belgrade...and yes, one side will lose everything and one side will win everything back. 10 years ago, Belgrade approached Tirana for a possible trade of territories, when the war broke out in presevo, and Tirana refused any kind of such solution...there will be the same answer, Mitrovica stays in Kosovo and Presevo stays in Serbia. But this does not mean we will give up Presevo...some day we will unite even if it will take another 100 years. We have all the history ahead of us.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.''


Whatever ...who cares. How is Chinese prosperity gonna help serbia anyway? Yet i consider the chinese friends to Albanians, they gave us brand new anti air and anti tank rockets back in 1996...probably that was why serb migs did not dare patrol around Kosovo. I don't care about Russian and Chinese policies...Europe is Europe. Actually i admire the chinese role in global politics...they are totally neutral.

doodah

pre 13 godina

THIS IS NOT GOING TO FLY,MY DEAR ALBANIANS!

Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.
(CG, 30 March 2011 20:23)
Today you wait,
You tell your children to wait,
One day you retire and you wait,
You tell your childrens' children to wait,
You become old and feeble but yet you wait,
One day you die and the you no longer wait,
hopefully your children and their children will honor your memory but not be so foolish to waste their life "waiting"
Kosovo will never be Serbian again.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

According to him, that reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".
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He took the words right out of my mouth. This process will cement the reality on the ground and then unblock those issues making life difficult for the residents of KiM. Serbia will continue to claim sovereignty while ethnic Albanians will continue to claim independence, however, the truth is somewhere in between. More than autonomy, less than independence is self-fulfilling but lets not mention it during these delicate negotiations (oops, I meant dialogue).

Jovan

pre 13 godina

no, Mr.Tadic, wrong.

there is nothing to give away as a present. all of it, the whole territory of KiM is serbian territory, and do not dare to play around with it.

just in case Mr.Tadic would try to let southern KiM go, that would make him a traitor. there cannot be any discussion about it, and those phrases about "reality on the field" are anti-serb propaganda.

realities change, serbian territory will stay serbian territory.

Serbs, beware of Tadic!

Zoran

pre 13 godina

I know for a fact that you did not like what your President Tadic said, but you are trying to twist things a little , so as to make Tadic look good.
(Agim Kelmendi, 28 March 2011 13:10)
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How do you know for a fact that I don't like what he said? In fact, I don't have a problem with it. From a Serbian point of view, KiM remains a part of Serbia with K-Albanians ruling their regions (self-rule) and Serbians ruling the rest while legally it remains Serbian. There will be technical agreements in place for freedom of movement (people plus goods) and other aspects to improve the lives of those living in the province. Serbian companies will operate throughout the territory and Serbian license plates will be accepted.

If you believe "Kosova" as it is now is independent, then as I have mentioned numerous times, I am happy with that. It certainly makes it much easier for these negotiations as your version of independence is nowhere near what I would expect from a truly independent nation.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 13 godina

FREDOM

I finished reading post and have come to the conclusion that you are a TROLL.

Your statement is rhetorical.

On a side note, i would acknowledge that youR solution is for Serbians to integrate with Kosovars, or you wish for all Serbs to leave the province of Kosovo.

What exactly is so hard for you to understand with the fact that Serbs don't wish to live with you.

Kosovo Serbs just want their FREEDOM ftom Albanians.

Happy trolling FREEDOM

laki bani

pre 13 godina

I think, or better I am fully convinced that Tadic is as pure nationalist as were his predecessors. He is talking about a historic agreement; as how both sides should come out as winners! This is nothing but demagogy; let’s recall just 12 years ago brutal massacres, expulsions, raping and killing anything with prefix Albanian! Nonetheless, Mr. Tadic will be continuing to mark NATO bombing campaign anniversary without even mentioning “deeds” committed by his nation towards an unarmed entire population making no difference if they were children, women elderly etc. He is being unfortunately worming welcomed by the European demagogy by “forgetting” the source of the permanent trouble makers in Balkans; but I will ensure potential readers of this forum that what ever the outcome would emerge, Serbia with its oppressive nature will stop producing troubles and being unhappy. Finally, Tadic is pretending that Serbia loses something, however is fully aware that the conflict dates 100 years ago, but he does not mention where did the conflict start, for your information it started far northern than today’s “northern Mitrovica- it was a bit southern to Belgrade. So that, the answer comes by itself; what does Serbia lose, having in mind these facts?

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

As I allways thought and said.

Serbs/Serbia are not interested in thier history or serbs but only in taking land.

Their so-called Jerusalem is not so important anymore as long as you get the North of Kosova but even that will not become a reality.

Tung

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

According to him, that reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".

Mr. Tadic is very easy to solve 100 years of conflict once and for all. Just swap Preshevo for northern Mitro and both can live in peace.
But, if you think you can just carve north of Ibar is a no go.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Tadic forgot to mention the Albanians in Presevo Valley. Ask them if they want to be ruled by Serbia.
(Mark, 28 March 2011 18:57)
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They have already been asked and their answer was to vote in the last Serbian election winning two seats in parliament. However, the north of KiM overwhelmingly rejected elections organised by Pristina. How many Serbians voted? 7 or 8? And that was probably due to vote rigging.

That is the difference Mark, both Serbians living in the North of KiM and those ethnic Albanians in Presevo all vote in Serbian elections and are integrated into Serbian structures. Now go and focus on something that you control and leave the rest alone. That is the reality.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Serbia will continue to claim sovereignty while ethnic Albanians will continue to claim independence, however, the truth is somewhere in between. More than autonomy, less than independence is self-fulfilling but lets not mention it during these delicate negotiations (oops, I meant dialogue).
(Zoran, 28 March 2011 10:07)

Serbia can continue on claiming sovernighty, but we are not claiming Independence since we got it allready.
I know for a fact that you did not like what your President Tadic said, but you are trying to twist things a little , so as to make Tadic look good.

Mark

pre 13 godina

The reality is that "Kosovo Albanians will never accept the sovereignty of Serbia, just like Serbs in the north of the province will never accept the sovereignty of Kosovo".

Tadic forgot to mention the Albanians in Presevo Valley. Ask them if they want to be ruled by Serbia.

lids

pre 13 godina

President Tadic in a way is showing to Sandzak what they have to do to achieve independence.
(ivan, 28 March 2011 16:20)

Wow-albanian admits Tadic is his president....and we would so gladly send you all of Rashkas muslims..for brothehood sake,but they don`t like you much..

Creative Rationality

pre 13 godina

I think Tadic hit a nerve in Serbia with this comment. I guess Serbia is realizing that they will see no light under tunnel unless they stick to reality on the ground that it is based, more or less, on historical past. Therefore the recognition of Kosovo now is imminent. more than ever before. From an Western perspective this had to be done earlier,...but as they say..."better late than never". The sooner Serbia does this step they will be freed from the self imposed ghetto or isolation.

lili

pre 13 godina

President Tadic admits the 100yearsconflict.good start for the beginning of a true approch!In fine you serbs admit that you began war in Toplica,Nish and sandjak,that were according to your authors mainly albanian in that time.
So we just tell you,nada for noth mitrovica,no Nish and Toplica again!

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Albanians are in their own country,The Slavic occupying tribe of the Sarbans should leave and get back to the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan where you guys came from.
(Mark, 29 March 2011 01:25)

The Caucasian ocuppying tribe of the Shqiptars/Arnauts should leave Europe and get back to the mountains of Caucassus, where you guys are from. Be happy with your brothers in language and culture: Circassians, Chechens and Abkhazians.

Mark

pre 13 godina

That is the difference Mark, both Serbians living in the North of KiM and those ethnic Albanians in Presevo all vote in Serbian elections and are integrated into Serbian structures. Now go and focus on something that you control and leave the rest alone. That is the reality.
(Zoran, 28 March 2011 20:00)

If that was the reality you wouldn't hear the Albanians of Presevo Valley asking for the same status that the serbs in N.Kosovo are trying to get. Don't fool yourself in thinking that Albanians of Presevo Valley like to be under Serbia.

Milan T

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.

Mark

pre 13 godina

Mark!

Then those Albanians should leave Serbia and return to their own country named Albania.
(Another Canadian Serb, 28 March 2011 22:40)

Albanians are in their own country,The Slavic occupying tribe of the Sarbans should leave and get back to the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan where you guys came from.

pss

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011 03:29)
I have yet to see any Albanians claiming this, I do see where Serbs try to link Kosovo indpendence with the proverbial "Pandora's Box" that never materialized, even after Russia's stunts in Georgia, no one links it with Kosovo.
Your comparison, while superior in your mind will fall flat without raising any attention.

arti

pre 13 godina

The Serbs in North Kosova should leave Kosova and return to their own country named Serbia.

You Serbs are only fooling yourselves that you control North Kosova.
The ones firmly in control are: 1. KFOR and 2. KP.

KFOR takes orders from Washington and KP takes orders from Prishtina. All that you control are the organized crime gangs, whose days are numbered. Do you think EU will let you in, if you continue sponsoring the criminal groups?

Milan T

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011 03:29)
I have yet to see any Albanians claiming this, I do see where Serbs try to link Kosovo indpendence with the proverbial "Pandora's Box" that never materialized, even after Russia's stunts in Georgia, no one links it with Kosovo.
Your comparison, while superior in your mind will fall flat without raising any attention.
(pss, 29 March 2011 12:04)

Why don't you open your eyes and read a little closer. Albanains think that just because you have a majority in a region of another country, you can claim it as yours. Well, that is what will happen in Albania if you keep up this claim.

Albanians have no history in Kosovo as Serbians do. You're just a bunch of land grabbers. Go back to Albania and live in your own country. Just look all around Europe. You cause problems everywhere. You are looked at as the trouble-makers of Europe. That is why all of the prisons in Europe are flooded with you cousins.

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

Mark!

Then those Albanians should leave Serbia and return to their own country named Albania.
(Another Canadian Serb, 28 March 2011 22:40)

OK, and those Serbian in north of Ibar can move to their country called Serbia. I will be happy if they take the other Serbs living in south too.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

According to Albanians here, Greeks in Albania can claim independence and take 1/3 of Albania. Watch what you say. It's going to bite you in the rear.
(Milan T, 29 March 2011)

Like the majority of Serb posters here your ignorance is astounding.
Greeks in Albania are concentrated in the area of Dropull, comrpised of about 25-30 villages, alongside the Greek border. There are also a couple of villages in the Himara region, in the Albanian riviera, that consider themselves Greek. That is it. There is not even a town in Albania that is majority Greek.

I don't know where you got 1/3 of Albania is Greek (actually I do)

iliri

pre 13 godina

Actually Tadic implied that Tirana and Belgrade should settle the issue...Albanian media claims Tadic implied that a trade of territories could be possible so that the Serb-Albanian issue is settled once and for all...even if hypothetically official Tirana agrees to discuss such proposal, you could be sure that we ordinary Albanian people will be against such talks and will respond quite harshly to Tirana, ...when serbs used to be on high ground they never approached us for peace, instead they used bayonets and bullets, now that they are messed up with the muslims in Bosnia and Sandjak, Albanians in Presevo and Hungarians in Vojvodina etc, they want to trade indipendene over north of Mitrovica...no Tadic, you smart bird, there will be no talks between Tirana and Belgrade...and yes, one side will lose everything and one side will win everything back. 10 years ago, Belgrade approached Tirana for a possible trade of territories, when the war broke out in presevo, and Tirana refused any kind of such solution...there will be the same answer, Mitrovica stays in Kosovo and Presevo stays in Serbia. But this does not mean we will give up Presevo...some day we will unite even if it will take another 100 years. We have all the history ahead of us.

Nexh

pre 13 godina

I personaly think that some kind of referendum would have been nice.
Ask the people where would like to go and change the damn borders and let's hope once and for all we would have a pieace of mind and move on with out lives.

Mirel from Albania

pre 13 godina

At least Tadic pushed down 50 more years the conflict Alb-Serb in 1913 and not at 1948 where the some historians are saying.We albanians are laughing with the explaniaion that Albanians flee in Kosovo after WWII!!!! I have lived under Hoxha's regime and I can tell you that a bird couln't go outside Albania not thousands of people like these historians are climing.A handful of people who manage to cross the border where not stupid to live in Kosova when they can be in USA. And I can tell you that were less than 200 people ,not 200 thousand like historians are saying.
At least Tadic tells what every wise person knows all along that Albanians have been majority in Kosova in 1913.The census of 1906 and 1920 conferms this.

lukebuyenovich

pre 13 godina

Mr.Tadic answered questions with clarity and dignity,while
realizing HE was in hostile environment.My comments are not intended
to correct Mr.Tadic in any way,however,they are addressed to those
sponsoring Independence for Kosovo.On the question:"Do you see Pristina side of argument"? The answer is yes,through the lens of reality,murders
and organs trafficking.

CG

pre 13 godina

There will be no swap of Serbian territory(Mitrovica) against Serbian territory(Presevo),but there will be a swap of place of residence of all Kosovo Albanians from Prizren,Djakovica,Pec,Pristina etc . to Tirana or Anadolia where they came from in the first place!
Our Southern province is de jure Serbian territory (UN1244) while UN,NATO,EU are blocked four our province!
Just imagine that temerity,Albanians accusing us of being nationalists for defending our territory while they are trying to steal it!

THIS IS NOT GOING TO FLY,MY DEAR ALBANIANS!

Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.''


Whatever ...who cares. How is Chinese prosperity gonna help serbia anyway? Yet i consider the chinese friends to Albanians, they gave us brand new anti air and anti tank rockets back in 1996...probably that was why serb migs did not dare patrol around Kosovo. I don't care about Russian and Chinese policies...Europe is Europe. Actually i admire the chinese role in global politics...they are totally neutral.

doodah

pre 13 godina

THIS IS NOT GOING TO FLY,MY DEAR ALBANIANS!

Russia and China are strengthening while the EU and the US are nearly bancrupt.Time is on our side.
(CG, 30 March 2011 20:23)
Today you wait,
You tell your children to wait,
One day you retire and you wait,
You tell your childrens' children to wait,
You become old and feeble but yet you wait,
One day you die and the you no longer wait,
hopefully your children and their children will honor your memory but not be so foolish to waste their life "waiting"
Kosovo will never be Serbian again.