Russian PM Vladimir Putin will visit Belgrade this week, with the South Stream pipeline and a new Red Star stadium on the agenda as he meets with his hosts.
Truth-haven't you got an opinion of your own rather than repeating what some spotty teenager in the state dept thinks. You must believe everything you read.
Putin looks scary in that picture where did he hide the goatee and horns it must be a air brushed picture of him. What do the Serbs have to sell to Putin this time at a negligible price is it ,mite be ha-ha-ha.
Maybe China and Russia abstained in the UN vote to give NATO and the West more rope to hang itself with in front of the rest of the world. Nah! Reading between the lines is for sissies and what governments tell you when they want to go to war is always true!
It is doubtful if Putin will really help Serbia.He does not seem to be in his old element because he has not vetoed the Libyan resolution at the U.N and let Obama and his European gang ravage tiny Libya.
(Jabli Izvesti, 21 March 2011 19:31)
Think about your response. Libya in turmoil for years to come. Oil prices skyrocket, who benefits?
Putin does not care about Kosova. He only cares how to milk Serbia and faten his pocket.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 March 2011 12:43)
Hey Osama how much has the US spent in your “Kosova” bringing infrastructure to date? Nothing? What a surprise.
FREEDOM, 21 March 2011 14:55)
For a pizza delivery boy you have access to many high level people to find this one out or lol.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 16:24)
That’s what I enjoy about your comments because you have no idea what your talking about to compare this drop in the proverbial bucket offshore of Albania to the Russian gas fields.
To access that gas from the sea bed seams they have to use a particular process that, to say the least, causes high levels of pollution. In fact if it’s done on the scale your talking then the entire coastline could be affected – something similar was done in Indonesia about 4 years ago and the aquifers are still polluted to this day. It will take millions to repair the damage.
(Danilo, 21 March 2011 17:45)
I notice the main South Stream pipe by passes Croatia, perhaps they are waiting on the Nabucco pipeline dream???? But in the meantime if you eat plenty of baked beans you’ll have enough gas for all Europe – you seem to be talking from the end anyway.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
Ukraine uses all external currency to just stay afloat mate. It earns a lot of money from the gas but that’s all it earns.
Why not get the US to build you a pipeline for Kosovo and see how generous they are. I forgot the west has not spent a penny on the Albos int ah last 12 years, but the Albos have high hope – lol.
Ps you can burst into a song now – we have high hopes…….
You think it will be a windfall for Serbia, Ukraine cannot even pay their energy bills with their transit fee collected from Russian oil flowing across their land.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
Of course they can't, the reason is very simple, so much money is being shiphoned out thur intermediary companies. Just google a bit and find out on rosukrenergo.
On the other hand it is an open secret that Tymoshenka was one of those controlling the in and out flows in Ukraine until she lost power.
The South Stream is certainly a good alternative route, but whether we talked about the North, the South or Nabusco routes, all of them are having a political background
Russia is playing on Serbia's mistaken belief that it is still a key player in the power dynamic with the West to draw the country's focus away from joining the EU and NATO, U.S.
The nostalgia for being courted by both Russia and the West remains a part of Serbia's yearning for self-importance and leads to a mistaken belief that it can chart an independent path while still committing to EU membership as a strategic objective. Serbia continues to believe it has a bridging role to play between Russia and the EU, which is widely scoffed at in European circles. Putin's visit on the eve of the anniversary of NATO bombing appears deliberately timed to remind Serbia of its past differences with the West. The Russians appear to be basking in their 'Serbia's Savior' role, using the tenth anniversary of the NATO intervention in Kosovo as an opportunity to raise their public profile in Serbia and cast the U.S. and other Western partners in a negative light.
This campaign resembles classic Soviet agitprop, vilifying the United States, while casting Russia as the fountain of justice and international order. Stirring up Balkan unrest is a dangerous game, but current Russian behavior demonstrates that it's the game they clearly want to play.
Serbs and Russians are profoundly ignorant of each other, the former (Serbia)from a lack of any real interaction throughout history, and the latter (Russia) out of utter lack of interest; other than Serbia's periodic usefulness as a naive and willing Russian pawn in the Balkans.
The only 'winner' in this calculation is Russia, who will continue to play on Serbia's naivete and stubbornness, to keep itself a player in Balkan politics and to keep Serbia out of NATO.
In spite of their misplaced and misunderstood sentimentality for Russia, Serberians crave American respect!!
I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 14:28)
RE; Bankers Petroleuem-Kucova
http://www.bankerspetroleum.com/
(1) Large Cash Balance
(2) General Wesley Clark is on the Board of Directors (not for his ivy league school or miliary genius)
(3) Large stake owned by Albanian government and leader(s)
The fact of the matter is that this company is rich because Albanian workers are paid peanuts while North America, US and Albania high profile leaders rape the country.
Serbia has cut a much better deal with Russia over South Stream while Berisha and Albanian business leaders lines their pockets with kickbacks, backroom deals and drug money selling the country and its people off for peanuts.
Albania and Kosovo are third and fourth world countries respectively, the poorest of the poorest in Europe. Serbia is far surpassed ecnomomic growth and prosperity of Albania and that is after being bombed back in the dark ages. The qeustion to ask is why Albania has always been in the dark ages under the Ottoman Turks or Envar Hodxa or now under Berisha. Part of the answer lies in the exploitation of its workers and people.
It will generate 100's of millions of euros in transit fees of which Russia will kindly claim their 51% and return it back to Russia while Serbia's 49% will be used to maintain the Russian owned assets.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
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Where did you dream that up? At least provide a link to back it up.
As for Ukraine, since booting out the western leaning sell-outs they are back on track. No more energy problems there my friend.
It is doubtful if Putin will really help Serbia.He does not seem to be in his old element because he has not vetoed the Libyan resolution at the U.N and let Obama and his European gang ravage tiny Libya.
South Stream is sealed my friend. It will make Serbia the energy hub of the region. It will provide hundreds of millions of euros in annual transit fees and it will give us the energy security we need.
Sorry to say but no western country can offer us that. No western country can block Kosovo independence and no western country has helped us historically like Russia. Russia helped free us of Ottoman and NAZI occupation so keep scraping the barrel if you like.
Welcome Putin and welcome Russia!
(Zoran, 21 March 2011 15:33)
It will generate 100's of millions of euros in transit fees of which Russia will kindly claim their 51% and return it back to Russia while Serbia's 49% will be used to maintain the Russian owned assets.
You think it will be a windfall for Serbia, Ukraine cannot even pay their energy bills with their transit fee collected from Russian oil flowing across their land.
Dear brothers ! I looked through the posts left here by our Albanian counterparts. What they are trying to persuade is:
1. Russia and Serbia are not brothers.
2. Russia is too weak to help Serbia.
3. Both Russians and Serbians apriori are bad peoples.
4. Neither South Stream nor anything else can save Serbia.
5.Russia follows only it's own pragmatic goals and cares little about Serbia.
6. Albanians are part of the civilized word.
We all know they are so nervous cause they fail to persuade even themselves and the coulpe of overseas Russophobes and Serbophobes. Íà âđàãîâ âñåãäà íàéäåì óïđàâó , êàê áû čõ ñóäüáà íč áåđåãëà !!!
I wonder what's going to happen to the mental state of some people when this pipe-dream doesn't work out the way they hope with all their hearts (but not minds).
What sort of western conspiracy will they invent to explain it?
Zorane, I accept your incapability to reply to my primary question. I know that it is not a comfortable one.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 16:24)
--
I did answer it - "keep scraping the barrel". Russia withdrew its 3000 troops and what? Did it change anything?
I think Putin realised it doesn't make any difference whether they are there or not and better for NATO to foot the bill than Russia. Now NATO is withdrawing.
However, Putin has continued to protect KiM at the international level, where it counts.
Zorane, I accept your incapability to reply to my primary question. I know that it is not a comfortable one. And regarding your (South-)Dreams, I wouldn't be that excited. Even if the Russians really want to build that money sink, then so be it. The LNG market will bury each pipeline where some thought that it can be used as a weapon. But I also understand that countries without a coast and not (political) alternative such as Serbia rely so heavily on the Moscow while camouflaging this need with a high proportion of pathetic euphemism. The rest of the world will simply enjoy the benefits of a free (gas) market, where the customer can decide where to buy.
Or better, some start developing their own huge reserves:
That is when Serbia went to China with the same request and we all know what happened with their embassy.
(FREEDOM, 21 March 2011 14:55)
--
Yes and as a result we all know what China's position towards Kosovo independence is right? China is a permanent member of the UNSC with a veto and as such independence is, yet again, permanently blocked.
I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 14:28)
--
South Stream is sealed my friend. It will make Serbia the energy hub of the region. It will provide hundreds of millions of euros in annual transit fees and it will give us the energy security we need.
Sorry to say but no western country can offer us that. No western country can block Kosovo independence and no western country has helped us historically like Russia. Russia helped free us of Ottoman and NAZI occupation so keep scraping the barrel if you like.
Russia has helped Serbia a lot especially when Serbia requested to use the Russian embassy as their communication head-quarters and Russia explicitely refused to do so.
That is when Serbia went to China with the same request and we all know what happened with their embassy.
On the other hand, he has helped Serbia regarding Kosovo i Metohija more than ... (Zoran, 21 March 2011 13:40)
Like withdrawing all Russian troops from Kosovo back in 2003? Even Yeltsin thought that 3000 men in Kosovo is a good idea. Putin apparently disagree. Well, maybe he thinks more economically. Raping and scavenging the Serbian industry with just an useless "No" is indeed very efficient. I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
Putin does not care about Kosova. He only cares how to milk Serbia and faten his pocket.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 March 2011 12:43)
--
Absolutely, why should he care for "Kosova". You guys would never have the privilege of his company. On the other hand, he has helped Serbia regarding Kosovo i Metohija more than any other leader and has ensured it remains blocked at the international level permanently. Thank you Putin and thank you Russia. Welcome to Serbia.
Putin does not care about Kosova. He only cares how to milk Serbia and faten his pocket.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 March 2011 12:43)
--
Absolutely, why should he care for "Kosova". You guys would never have the privilege of his company. On the other hand, he has helped Serbia regarding Kosovo i Metohija more than any other leader and has ensured it remains blocked at the international level permanently. Thank you Putin and thank you Russia. Welcome to Serbia.
Russia is playing on Serbia's mistaken belief that it is still a key player in the power dynamic with the West to draw the country's focus away from joining the EU and NATO, U.S.
The nostalgia for being courted by both Russia and the West remains a part of Serbia's yearning for self-importance and leads to a mistaken belief that it can chart an independent path while still committing to EU membership as a strategic objective. Serbia continues to believe it has a bridging role to play between Russia and the EU, which is widely scoffed at in European circles. Putin's visit on the eve of the anniversary of NATO bombing appears deliberately timed to remind Serbia of its past differences with the West. The Russians appear to be basking in their 'Serbia's Savior' role, using the tenth anniversary of the NATO intervention in Kosovo as an opportunity to raise their public profile in Serbia and cast the U.S. and other Western partners in a negative light.
This campaign resembles classic Soviet agitprop, vilifying the United States, while casting Russia as the fountain of justice and international order. Stirring up Balkan unrest is a dangerous game, but current Russian behavior demonstrates that it's the game they clearly want to play.
Serbs and Russians are profoundly ignorant of each other, the former (Serbia)from a lack of any real interaction throughout history, and the latter (Russia) out of utter lack of interest; other than Serbia's periodic usefulness as a naive and willing Russian pawn in the Balkans.
The only 'winner' in this calculation is Russia, who will continue to play on Serbia's naivete and stubbornness, to keep itself a player in Balkan politics and to keep Serbia out of NATO.
In spite of their misplaced and misunderstood sentimentality for Russia, Serberians crave American respect!!
I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 14:28)
--
South Stream is sealed my friend. It will make Serbia the energy hub of the region. It will provide hundreds of millions of euros in annual transit fees and it will give us the energy security we need.
Sorry to say but no western country can offer us that. No western country can block Kosovo independence and no western country has helped us historically like Russia. Russia helped free us of Ottoman and NAZI occupation so keep scraping the barrel if you like.
That is when Serbia went to China with the same request and we all know what happened with their embassy.
(FREEDOM, 21 March 2011 14:55)
--
Yes and as a result we all know what China's position towards Kosovo independence is right? China is a permanent member of the UNSC with a veto and as such independence is, yet again, permanently blocked.
Dear brothers ! I looked through the posts left here by our Albanian counterparts. What they are trying to persuade is:
1. Russia and Serbia are not brothers.
2. Russia is too weak to help Serbia.
3. Both Russians and Serbians apriori are bad peoples.
4. Neither South Stream nor anything else can save Serbia.
5.Russia follows only it's own pragmatic goals and cares little about Serbia.
6. Albanians are part of the civilized word.
We all know they are so nervous cause they fail to persuade even themselves and the coulpe of overseas Russophobes and Serbophobes. Íà âđàãîâ âñåãäà íàéäåì óïđàâó , êàê áû čõ ñóäüáà íč áåđåãëà !!!
Zorane, I accept your incapability to reply to my primary question. I know that it is not a comfortable one.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 16:24)
--
I did answer it - "keep scraping the barrel". Russia withdrew its 3000 troops and what? Did it change anything?
I think Putin realised it doesn't make any difference whether they are there or not and better for NATO to foot the bill than Russia. Now NATO is withdrawing.
However, Putin has continued to protect KiM at the international level, where it counts.
I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 14:28)
RE; Bankers Petroleuem-Kucova
http://www.bankerspetroleum.com/
(1) Large Cash Balance
(2) General Wesley Clark is on the Board of Directors (not for his ivy league school or miliary genius)
(3) Large stake owned by Albanian government and leader(s)
The fact of the matter is that this company is rich because Albanian workers are paid peanuts while North America, US and Albania high profile leaders rape the country.
Serbia has cut a much better deal with Russia over South Stream while Berisha and Albanian business leaders lines their pockets with kickbacks, backroom deals and drug money selling the country and its people off for peanuts.
Albania and Kosovo are third and fourth world countries respectively, the poorest of the poorest in Europe. Serbia is far surpassed ecnomomic growth and prosperity of Albania and that is after being bombed back in the dark ages. The qeustion to ask is why Albania has always been in the dark ages under the Ottoman Turks or Envar Hodxa or now under Berisha. Part of the answer lies in the exploitation of its workers and people.
Russia has helped Serbia a lot especially when Serbia requested to use the Russian embassy as their communication head-quarters and Russia explicitely refused to do so.
That is when Serbia went to China with the same request and we all know what happened with their embassy.
It will generate 100's of millions of euros in transit fees of which Russia will kindly claim their 51% and return it back to Russia while Serbia's 49% will be used to maintain the Russian owned assets.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
--
Where did you dream that up? At least provide a link to back it up.
As for Ukraine, since booting out the western leaning sell-outs they are back on track. No more energy problems there my friend.
On the other hand, he has helped Serbia regarding Kosovo i Metohija more than ... (Zoran, 21 March 2011 13:40)
Like withdrawing all Russian troops from Kosovo back in 2003? Even Yeltsin thought that 3000 men in Kosovo is a good idea. Putin apparently disagree. Well, maybe he thinks more economically. Raping and scavenging the Serbian industry with just an useless "No" is indeed very efficient. I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
Zorane, I accept your incapability to reply to my primary question. I know that it is not a comfortable one. And regarding your (South-)Dreams, I wouldn't be that excited. Even if the Russians really want to build that money sink, then so be it. The LNG market will bury each pipeline where some thought that it can be used as a weapon. But I also understand that countries without a coast and not (political) alternative such as Serbia rely so heavily on the Moscow while camouflaging this need with a high proportion of pathetic euphemism. The rest of the world will simply enjoy the benefits of a free (gas) market, where the customer can decide where to buy.
Or better, some start developing their own huge reserves:
South Stream is sealed my friend. It will make Serbia the energy hub of the region. It will provide hundreds of millions of euros in annual transit fees and it will give us the energy security we need.
Sorry to say but no western country can offer us that. No western country can block Kosovo independence and no western country has helped us historically like Russia. Russia helped free us of Ottoman and NAZI occupation so keep scraping the barrel if you like.
Welcome Putin and welcome Russia!
(Zoran, 21 March 2011 15:33)
It will generate 100's of millions of euros in transit fees of which Russia will kindly claim their 51% and return it back to Russia while Serbia's 49% will be used to maintain the Russian owned assets.
You think it will be a windfall for Serbia, Ukraine cannot even pay their energy bills with their transit fee collected from Russian oil flowing across their land.
Putin does not care about Kosova. He only cares how to milk Serbia and faten his pocket.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 March 2011 12:43)
Hey Osama how much has the US spent in your “Kosova” bringing infrastructure to date? Nothing? What a surprise.
FREEDOM, 21 March 2011 14:55)
For a pizza delivery boy you have access to many high level people to find this one out or lol.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 16:24)
That’s what I enjoy about your comments because you have no idea what your talking about to compare this drop in the proverbial bucket offshore of Albania to the Russian gas fields.
To access that gas from the sea bed seams they have to use a particular process that, to say the least, causes high levels of pollution. In fact if it’s done on the scale your talking then the entire coastline could be affected – something similar was done in Indonesia about 4 years ago and the aquifers are still polluted to this day. It will take millions to repair the damage.
(Danilo, 21 March 2011 17:45)
I notice the main South Stream pipe by passes Croatia, perhaps they are waiting on the Nabucco pipeline dream???? But in the meantime if you eat plenty of baked beans you’ll have enough gas for all Europe – you seem to be talking from the end anyway.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
Ukraine uses all external currency to just stay afloat mate. It earns a lot of money from the gas but that’s all it earns.
Why not get the US to build you a pipeline for Kosovo and see how generous they are. I forgot the west has not spent a penny on the Albos int ah last 12 years, but the Albos have high hope – lol.
Ps you can burst into a song now – we have high hopes…….
I wonder what's going to happen to the mental state of some people when this pipe-dream doesn't work out the way they hope with all their hearts (but not minds).
What sort of western conspiracy will they invent to explain it?
It is doubtful if Putin will really help Serbia.He does not seem to be in his old element because he has not vetoed the Libyan resolution at the U.N and let Obama and his European gang ravage tiny Libya.
(Jabli Izvesti, 21 March 2011 19:31)
Think about your response. Libya in turmoil for years to come. Oil prices skyrocket, who benefits?
Putin looks scary in that picture where did he hide the goatee and horns it must be a air brushed picture of him. What do the Serbs have to sell to Putin this time at a negligible price is it ,mite be ha-ha-ha.
You think it will be a windfall for Serbia, Ukraine cannot even pay their energy bills with their transit fee collected from Russian oil flowing across their land.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
Of course they can't, the reason is very simple, so much money is being shiphoned out thur intermediary companies. Just google a bit and find out on rosukrenergo.
On the other hand it is an open secret that Tymoshenka was one of those controlling the in and out flows in Ukraine until she lost power.
The South Stream is certainly a good alternative route, but whether we talked about the North, the South or Nabusco routes, all of them are having a political background
Maybe China and Russia abstained in the UN vote to give NATO and the West more rope to hang itself with in front of the rest of the world. Nah! Reading between the lines is for sissies and what governments tell you when they want to go to war is always true!
It is doubtful if Putin will really help Serbia.He does not seem to be in his old element because he has not vetoed the Libyan resolution at the U.N and let Obama and his European gang ravage tiny Libya.
Truth-haven't you got an opinion of your own rather than repeating what some spotty teenager in the state dept thinks. You must believe everything you read.
Russia has helped Serbia a lot especially when Serbia requested to use the Russian embassy as their communication head-quarters and Russia explicitely refused to do so.
That is when Serbia went to China with the same request and we all know what happened with their embassy.
On the other hand, he has helped Serbia regarding Kosovo i Metohija more than ... (Zoran, 21 March 2011 13:40)
Like withdrawing all Russian troops from Kosovo back in 2003? Even Yeltsin thought that 3000 men in Kosovo is a good idea. Putin apparently disagree. Well, maybe he thinks more economically. Raping and scavenging the Serbian industry with just an useless "No" is indeed very efficient. I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
Zorane, I accept your incapability to reply to my primary question. I know that it is not a comfortable one. And regarding your (South-)Dreams, I wouldn't be that excited. Even if the Russians really want to build that money sink, then so be it. The LNG market will bury each pipeline where some thought that it can be used as a weapon. But I also understand that countries without a coast and not (political) alternative such as Serbia rely so heavily on the Moscow while camouflaging this need with a high proportion of pathetic euphemism. The rest of the world will simply enjoy the benefits of a free (gas) market, where the customer can decide where to buy.
Or better, some start developing their own huge reserves:
Putin does not care about Kosova. He only cares how to milk Serbia and faten his pocket.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 March 2011 12:43)
--
Absolutely, why should he care for "Kosova". You guys would never have the privilege of his company. On the other hand, he has helped Serbia regarding Kosovo i Metohija more than any other leader and has ensured it remains blocked at the international level permanently. Thank you Putin and thank you Russia. Welcome to Serbia.
South Stream is sealed my friend. It will make Serbia the energy hub of the region. It will provide hundreds of millions of euros in annual transit fees and it will give us the energy security we need.
Sorry to say but no western country can offer us that. No western country can block Kosovo independence and no western country has helped us historically like Russia. Russia helped free us of Ottoman and NAZI occupation so keep scraping the barrel if you like.
Welcome Putin and welcome Russia!
(Zoran, 21 March 2011 15:33)
It will generate 100's of millions of euros in transit fees of which Russia will kindly claim their 51% and return it back to Russia while Serbia's 49% will be used to maintain the Russian owned assets.
You think it will be a windfall for Serbia, Ukraine cannot even pay their energy bills with their transit fee collected from Russian oil flowing across their land.
I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 14:28)
--
South Stream is sealed my friend. It will make Serbia the energy hub of the region. It will provide hundreds of millions of euros in annual transit fees and it will give us the energy security we need.
Sorry to say but no western country can offer us that. No western country can block Kosovo independence and no western country has helped us historically like Russia. Russia helped free us of Ottoman and NAZI occupation so keep scraping the barrel if you like.
Zorane, I accept your incapability to reply to my primary question. I know that it is not a comfortable one.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 16:24)
--
I did answer it - "keep scraping the barrel". Russia withdrew its 3000 troops and what? Did it change anything?
I think Putin realised it doesn't make any difference whether they are there or not and better for NATO to foot the bill than Russia. Now NATO is withdrawing.
However, Putin has continued to protect KiM at the international level, where it counts.
I wonder what's going to happen to the mental state of some people when this pipe-dream doesn't work out the way they hope with all their hearts (but not minds).
What sort of western conspiracy will they invent to explain it?
Russia is playing on Serbia's mistaken belief that it is still a key player in the power dynamic with the West to draw the country's focus away from joining the EU and NATO, U.S.
The nostalgia for being courted by both Russia and the West remains a part of Serbia's yearning for self-importance and leads to a mistaken belief that it can chart an independent path while still committing to EU membership as a strategic objective. Serbia continues to believe it has a bridging role to play between Russia and the EU, which is widely scoffed at in European circles. Putin's visit on the eve of the anniversary of NATO bombing appears deliberately timed to remind Serbia of its past differences with the West. The Russians appear to be basking in their 'Serbia's Savior' role, using the tenth anniversary of the NATO intervention in Kosovo as an opportunity to raise their public profile in Serbia and cast the U.S. and other Western partners in a negative light.
This campaign resembles classic Soviet agitprop, vilifying the United States, while casting Russia as the fountain of justice and international order. Stirring up Balkan unrest is a dangerous game, but current Russian behavior demonstrates that it's the game they clearly want to play.
Serbs and Russians are profoundly ignorant of each other, the former (Serbia)from a lack of any real interaction throughout history, and the latter (Russia) out of utter lack of interest; other than Serbia's periodic usefulness as a naive and willing Russian pawn in the Balkans.
The only 'winner' in this calculation is Russia, who will continue to play on Serbia's naivete and stubbornness, to keep itself a player in Balkan politics and to keep Serbia out of NATO.
In spite of their misplaced and misunderstood sentimentality for Russia, Serberians crave American respect!!
That is when Serbia went to China with the same request and we all know what happened with their embassy.
(FREEDOM, 21 March 2011 14:55)
--
Yes and as a result we all know what China's position towards Kosovo independence is right? China is a permanent member of the UNSC with a veto and as such independence is, yet again, permanently blocked.
It is doubtful if Putin will really help Serbia.He does not seem to be in his old element because he has not vetoed the Libyan resolution at the U.N and let Obama and his European gang ravage tiny Libya.
Dear brothers ! I looked through the posts left here by our Albanian counterparts. What they are trying to persuade is:
1. Russia and Serbia are not brothers.
2. Russia is too weak to help Serbia.
3. Both Russians and Serbians apriori are bad peoples.
4. Neither South Stream nor anything else can save Serbia.
5.Russia follows only it's own pragmatic goals and cares little about Serbia.
6. Albanians are part of the civilized word.
We all know they are so nervous cause they fail to persuade even themselves and the coulpe of overseas Russophobes and Serbophobes. Íà âđàãîâ âñåãäà íàéäåì óïđàâó , êàê áû čõ ñóäüáà íč áåđåãëà !!!
I'm curious to see which company/companies will be his next victim.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 14:28)
RE; Bankers Petroleuem-Kucova
http://www.bankerspetroleum.com/
(1) Large Cash Balance
(2) General Wesley Clark is on the Board of Directors (not for his ivy league school or miliary genius)
(3) Large stake owned by Albanian government and leader(s)
The fact of the matter is that this company is rich because Albanian workers are paid peanuts while North America, US and Albania high profile leaders rape the country.
Serbia has cut a much better deal with Russia over South Stream while Berisha and Albanian business leaders lines their pockets with kickbacks, backroom deals and drug money selling the country and its people off for peanuts.
Albania and Kosovo are third and fourth world countries respectively, the poorest of the poorest in Europe. Serbia is far surpassed ecnomomic growth and prosperity of Albania and that is after being bombed back in the dark ages. The qeustion to ask is why Albania has always been in the dark ages under the Ottoman Turks or Envar Hodxa or now under Berisha. Part of the answer lies in the exploitation of its workers and people.
It will generate 100's of millions of euros in transit fees of which Russia will kindly claim their 51% and return it back to Russia while Serbia's 49% will be used to maintain the Russian owned assets.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
--
Where did you dream that up? At least provide a link to back it up.
As for Ukraine, since booting out the western leaning sell-outs they are back on track. No more energy problems there my friend.
Truth-haven't you got an opinion of your own rather than repeating what some spotty teenager in the state dept thinks. You must believe everything you read.
It is doubtful if Putin will really help Serbia.He does not seem to be in his old element because he has not vetoed the Libyan resolution at the U.N and let Obama and his European gang ravage tiny Libya.
(Jabli Izvesti, 21 March 2011 19:31)
Think about your response. Libya in turmoil for years to come. Oil prices skyrocket, who benefits?
You think it will be a windfall for Serbia, Ukraine cannot even pay their energy bills with their transit fee collected from Russian oil flowing across their land.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
Of course they can't, the reason is very simple, so much money is being shiphoned out thur intermediary companies. Just google a bit and find out on rosukrenergo.
On the other hand it is an open secret that Tymoshenka was one of those controlling the in and out flows in Ukraine until she lost power.
The South Stream is certainly a good alternative route, but whether we talked about the North, the South or Nabusco routes, all of them are having a political background
Putin does not care about Kosova. He only cares how to milk Serbia and faten his pocket.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 March 2011 12:43)
Hey Osama how much has the US spent in your “Kosova” bringing infrastructure to date? Nothing? What a surprise.
FREEDOM, 21 March 2011 14:55)
For a pizza delivery boy you have access to many high level people to find this one out or lol.
(JohnC., 21 March 2011 16:24)
That’s what I enjoy about your comments because you have no idea what your talking about to compare this drop in the proverbial bucket offshore of Albania to the Russian gas fields.
To access that gas from the sea bed seams they have to use a particular process that, to say the least, causes high levels of pollution. In fact if it’s done on the scale your talking then the entire coastline could be affected – something similar was done in Indonesia about 4 years ago and the aquifers are still polluted to this day. It will take millions to repair the damage.
(Danilo, 21 March 2011 17:45)
I notice the main South Stream pipe by passes Croatia, perhaps they are waiting on the Nabucco pipeline dream???? But in the meantime if you eat plenty of baked beans you’ll have enough gas for all Europe – you seem to be talking from the end anyway.
(Dream on, 21 March 2011 18:27)
Ukraine uses all external currency to just stay afloat mate. It earns a lot of money from the gas but that’s all it earns.
Why not get the US to build you a pipeline for Kosovo and see how generous they are. I forgot the west has not spent a penny on the Albos int ah last 12 years, but the Albos have high hope – lol.
Ps you can burst into a song now – we have high hopes…….
Maybe China and Russia abstained in the UN vote to give NATO and the West more rope to hang itself with in front of the rest of the world. Nah! Reading between the lines is for sissies and what governments tell you when they want to go to war is always true!
Putin looks scary in that picture where did he hide the goatee and horns it must be a air brushed picture of him. What do the Serbs have to sell to Putin this time at a negligible price is it ,mite be ha-ha-ha.
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