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Daily: Evidence against ex-KLA

EULEX is basing its case against former Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) commander Fatmir Limaj on a witness testimony and a medical file found in his house.

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lili

pre 13 godina

felix,
just one thing:all these serbs get out of kosovo before kosovars get back to kosovo.They all fled to serbia escorted with their army,and not at all under the pression of the uck men!(just have a look at the video of this period)
Why did they do so according to you? I tell you:because they do know pretty well what they have done to us all these 10 years preceding the war,and what they have done is pretty enough :they have killed,raped,tortured each day albanians.
i know that you are convinced that albanians all of a sudden decided "we want war" but i tell you we did have patience,we did support a lot,but in fine too much is too much and comes a time when life or death is the same and under serbian rules this time had come for us,that's why we fought for our liberation,even if at that time victory was not even concevable!
whatever you think,we do know that our liberty comes from these guys,who risked their lives to save their people.So we are and will be for ever grateful to them.
you are free to admire your heroes Milosheviq,mladic and karadjic,
Mine are better ones!

Felix

pre 13 godina

Regardless to all efforts of numerous Kosovo's Albaninan commentators who try to justify the KLA crimes against Serbian population, the facts are cruelly exact. After the NATO agression up to 300.000 Serbs had to leave Kosovo and Metohija as well as 4.000 additional who did it upon well orchestrated attacks on March 17, 2004. Very few of them returned there because Kosovo authorities and their mentors from the West prevent it perfidiously. Therefore, it is the ethnic cleansing and genocide. Not to mention the barbarism in destroying more than 100 Orthodox churches and monasteries from which some were built in the 13.,14. and 15. century. The target is to eliminate all the traces that Kosovo and Metohija has always been Serbian territory. KLA is a terrorist organization responsible for many crimes and I hope that those who committed atrocities and ethnic cleansing will be brought to justice, sooner or later. Including the top men of the Kosovo establishment too.

lili

pre 13 godina

(Grzegorz,
and what about the déportation of thousands of albanians in serbian baracks in belgrade?There bodies were under he feets of the serbian soldiers at batajnice...
I am grateful to limaj and all uckmen who did stop your disgusting army and by so doing prevent the killing of more albanians.

Denis

pre 13 godina

As an Albanian I am pretty sure that many of the ex-KLA did use violence against Serbian prisoners and (Milo's)"civilian" officials. But we are yet to see a well organized and premeditated attack on Serbian civilians by the KLA. In fact every time KLA attacked Serbian security forces, Serbia responded by killing civilians. Adem Jashari for example, the founder of the KLA, was barbarically killed along with some 30 members of his family most of them women and children, after it was surrounded in his home. What civilized nation on this earth would send the police to carelessly annihilate an entire family of what it consideres to be its own citizens?

We all know that the brutality and barbarism of Serbian thugs in the 90s during Balkan conflicts by far surpasses the reaction of the others. Whatever Serbs try to justify and equal themselves with their victims, or act as if they suffered as much as the others, we all know that's not near the truth. Sure Germany suffered a lot during WWII as well, but due to their own guilt.

When it comes to mass murder, barbarism and cleansing all others learned from Serbs in the 90s, that's why Serbs have the vast majority of those indicted for war crimes in Hague tribunal, and are know to be the authors of some of the largest mass graves in Europe for the second half of the 20th century.

Without a doubt I think KLA committed crimes. We are talking about a guerilla force that did not have the means to behave like a regular army. Of course some individuals from KLA took matters in their own hands, to seek retribution for what happend to their families, but we all know this was an exception, that is why there are no accounts of organized attacks on K-Serbs from KLA.

But the killing of K-Alb civilians has been a hobby of the Serbian state for now 100 years. I rememebr the testimony of General W. Clark, when he asked Milosivic in 1999, how did he plan to deal with the Albanian uprising, Milosevic responed "Oh as we have always dealt with them, just like we dealt with them in 1945, kill them, kill them all...".

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

"It is cristal clear that the entire International, official Albanian and Kosovan and Serbian apparatus altogether are trying to discredit UCK."

You have to consider that you are either on the wrong side of the issue and can't admit it or you are a paranoid schizophrenic when you make a comment like this.

Dirk

pre 13 godina

UCK, were not angels, of course they killed serbs, it was their job to fight serbian army and police, but they only and only killed serbs with uniforms, not children, women and elders...it has been 12 years that former UCKs are being sent to hague, and no one of them has ever been acused for crimes against humanity, they are merely acused of rounding up albanian spies, and serb prisoners, killing serb prisoners of war, actually was justice for humanity...
(iliri, 20 March 2011 21:30)

This is complete rubbish, UCK was terorist organisation which killed civilians including women and children.

You call that justice for humanity? You are as much as Barbaric as others in Balkans, but for sure the most ignorant ones.

ida

pre 13 godina

UCK is a terrorist organization which was supported by the west in order to breakup and steal more territory of the former Yugoslavia.
Western politicians now are getting rich in the privatizations and the U.S./NATO have a new base and have extended their influence.

iliri

pre 13 godina

It is cristal clear that the entire International, official Albanian and Kosovan and Serbian apparatus altogether are trying to discredit UCK, ... UCK strugle was a rightenous one, was established by ordinary Albanians and diaspora Albanians who were fed up with the perities that all we Albanians, regardles of wether we are from Rep o ALBANIA, Kosovo or Diaspora had to ENDURE during the last 100 years...UCK was born from the hearth of Albanian people, it fought for freedom , it fought against the peripety we the ALbanian nation have been suffering for the last 100 years, wether we were inside or outside state borders....anyway, UCK technically and practically is disbanded, we, Albanians and those who fought for UCK have accepted the reality, and the solution that internationals have proposed for us, and the days we dreamed for a single unifed Albanian state are over...yet, who ever is trying to poisen with propaganda the memory of UCK, will not succeed in removing ''national counsousness'' promoted by UCK, they are only warning the Albanians that no solution will ever be as good as what UCK really wanted...wether limaj executed with cold blood two serbian criminals is not the issue, limaj is only an ''individual''...the issue is the memory of UCK...all this propaganda has only one goal, discrediting UCK...and it is very proffesionally chronometred as well, first they sent haradinaj for a second time, then Marty, then Limaj for another second time... UCK, were not angels, of course they killed serbs, it was their job to fight serbian army and police, but they only and only killed serbs with uniforms, not children, women and elders...it has been 12 years that former UCKs are being sent to hague, and no one of them has ever been acused for crimes against humanity, they are merely acused of rounding up albanian spies, and serb prisoners, killing serb prisoners of war, actually was justice for humanity...

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

iliri,

The lack of detention facilities does not mean that you execute prisoners. There is no justification and there is no exception in the Geneva Conventions for that. Not having detention facilities is also an untrue statement because the KLA was maintaining detention facilities, by its own admission, in Albania. Albania was allowing the KLA to base their troops there so that argument is out the window. And mining borders is not a violation of the Geneva Convention. If mining borders was a violation, the US would be in violation with the Korean border. Read the Geneva Convention before you make ridiculous comments. And know the facts before you make stupid comments like a running POW can be shot. Do you know that the Serb officers were caught by Limaj and then escaped or are you making something up to justify murder?

The statements that Limaj is a hero for killing Serbs is disturbing. Does this mean that the Albanian posters here are not offended when they hear that killing Albanians was ok in the Serbian viewpoint? The Albanians see their crimes as legitimate because it is against Serbs while any crime against an Albanian is not because it is an Albanian. There surely can never be peace or rule of law in Kosovo with this mentality. You still live by the kanun, which is never acceptable in advanced societies.

bganon

pre 13 godina

Goodness primitive people make me laugh.

We should be reminded why us normal people should not allow a war situation. Those primitives think its an excuse to butcher and support any war crimes they want.

'Its war' they say. 'Not good enough' I say.

Perhaps during peace time these war mongers should also have their civil rights taken from them?

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

limaj killed 2 serbian officers?
No limaj prevented more crimes that these 2 criminals,who killed thousand of inncent people,intend to carry on.
war justice is war justice.
(lili, 20 March 2011 12:02)

Yeah, yeah. War justice is war justice. Killing Prisoners of War = Albanian justice. Deportation all Albanians from Serbian province Kosovo-Metohia is also war justice?

Top

pre 13 godina

"But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not!
(Niko, 19 March 2011 22:40)

Surely not. These things are simply not connected. The KLA cannot be guilty of war crimes, just like the Serbian Army cannot be guilty of war crimes. Individual persons who commited or ordered those illegal killings are guilty. Simple and easy.
Kosovo Albanians shouldn't fall for the propaganda nonsense their politicans want to make them believe that accusations are 'against the freedom' or 'against the independence' or 'against Kosovo' or 'against all Albanians'. No, they are only against Thaci and his mafia clans, or against Limaj as the commander of some KLA group.

lili

pre 13 godina

limaj killed 2 serbian officers?
No limaj prevented more crimes that these 2 criminals,who killed thousand of inncent people,intend to carry on.
war justice is war justice.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Your words are excellent testimony of K-Albanian mentality!
Murder is good... excellent, thanks!

Pizza boy

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

It just show which kind of state is Kosovo where people like Limaj are heroes. Not only heroes they are in govermant too.

Albanian commentators are from the same party (PDK) or they are really sick individuals.

Pizza boy

pre 13 godina

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.
(Agim Kelmendi, 19 March 2011 16:16)

Agim, you forgot to say that man with uniform is an potentian unwillingly organ donor? Why you should killed them, as you can make some money out of them, ehh?

You should stop commenting on here and concentrate on your pizza's.

ida

pre 13 godina

No doubt he did much more than order the death of 2 POW's.
And his putting a witness in a psychiatric institution is reminiscent of the worst of the Soviet system.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:41) ''

Uck had no facilities, barracks or enough posts, they were guerilla, and had limited number of safehouses, if they spared the prisoners, their position could be revealed and the whole strugle would be saboutaged... UCK even had limited supply corridors as the albanian kosovo border had been mined by serbs, which is a violation of geneve convention as well, perhaps, if serbs didn't mine our borders, serb prisoners would have been kept in UN and red cross camps in Albania, or even Rep-o-Albanian police headquarters would be safer places for serb war prisoners, considering that many kosovo albanians were around the camps during that period, and so revenge killing would be avoided, still it was a risky situation for UCK, ... of course, killing a prisoner of war is a war crime, but if a prisoner of war tries to escape, there is no law in geneve convention that prevents a running prisoner of war from being shot...so it does not count as war crime...if Limaj proves that those two officers tried to escape, then he will be freed of all charges in less than three minutes...Im relieved to hear that the ''war crime'' that they acuse Limaj of isn't the killing women, minors, elders and people which are not fit for war, if in wars, only men died, everything is all right ... instead of senting him to jail we must give Limaj a medal.

iliri

pre 13 godina

Well, after reading this article, i could not be any prouder of UCK, in Albanian media, it says that Limaj and other were involved in executing albanians and other civilians...probably, that is because albanian media takes news as molds from other slavic media run by edisud

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Congratulations! What nation - such heroes. What heroes - such nation. Each post by K-Albanians - compromitations of your tribe.

Niko

pre 13 godina

After all these years of false accusations of K-Albanians, all what the serbian propaganda could come up with was an "order to kill enemy officers" (not even plain soldiers or civilians)at the time of war" against one single KLA commander??!!
But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not! Especially when officers and soldiers of Serbia itself have been already convicted on war crimes against civilians by international and serbian courts!

Niko

pre 13 godina

After all these years of false accusations of K-Albanians, all what the serbian propaganda could come up with was an "order to kill enemy officers" (not even plain soldiers or civilians)at the time of war" against one single KLA commander??!!
But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not! Especially when officers and soldiers of Serbia itself have been already convicted on war crimes against civilians by international and serbian courts!

Ronghi Syndrome

pre 13 godina

Oh, don't worry B92, Limaj killed more than just 2 Serbian Officers - but there's a huge difference between killing enemy combatants and killing unarmed civilians like the Serbian army did. Serbian army kidnaped 10 thousand Albanians, sent them to Serbia, killed them, and threw their bodies in the river. And your concern is about Limaj killing 2 Serbian officers?

miri

pre 13 godina

A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:41)

Absolutely!
So is the case of Bytyci brothers.

Boris J

pre 13 godina

During the war in Bosnia, all kinds of atrocities have been committed by all sides and, so far, it seems that only Sertbs have been sentenced. Justice has to be done also for Serbs civilians who were killed by Bosniaks, Croats and Kosovar Albanians.

UI

pre 13 godina

Sorry B92 but is suspected of ordering the killing of 2 Serbian SOLDIERS in a time of war, not civilians and especially not 12000 of them. Read the Albanian forums and see what those Serb soldiers were caught doing.

bganon

pre 13 godina

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.

Is that from the Slobodan Milosevic book of warfare? Really its too amusing to hear these types of statements from those who think war is a solution. They sound exactly the same as each other.

Perhaps all those who seem to enjoy violence so much should live in one state in a constant state of war. The rest of us peaceful people would be happier to live together in peace.

luciano

pre 13 godina

Executing a man in cold blood regardless of what he is wearing is a war crime but more importantly a bestial act showing the true nature of the perpetrator.Limaj is a murderer and deserves the Kentucky form of punishment.

Analyst

pre 13 godina

"Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!"
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Yes, and nothing wrong with killing some 1000s of Albanians, said the Serb hero Milosevic.

How sick some people are. Disgusting.

fez

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!

Top

pre 13 godina

"The medical file found in his house shows how a witness against the suspect was put in a psychiatric clinic by Limaj and his associates in order to discredit him."

Great to see how creative these Kosovo Albanian leaders and politicans are. I thought witnesses who dared to testify against criminals are usually killed and/or intimidated in the independent mafia state of Kosovo.

And some people here even defend their behaviour and think it's normal. Says a lot about their mentality.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

According to the daily, EULEX thinks the ex-KLA commander ordered the murder of two Serbian officers in 1999.

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.

Top

pre 13 godina

"The medical file found in his house shows how a witness against the suspect was put in a psychiatric clinic by Limaj and his associates in order to discredit him."

Great to see how creative these Kosovo Albanian leaders and politicans are. I thought witnesses who dared to testify against criminals are usually killed and/or intimidated in the independent mafia state of Kosovo.

And some people here even defend their behaviour and think it's normal. Says a lot about their mentality.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

According to the daily, EULEX thinks the ex-KLA commander ordered the murder of two Serbian officers in 1999.

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.

Top

pre 13 godina

"But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not!
(Niko, 19 March 2011 22:40)

Surely not. These things are simply not connected. The KLA cannot be guilty of war crimes, just like the Serbian Army cannot be guilty of war crimes. Individual persons who commited or ordered those illegal killings are guilty. Simple and easy.
Kosovo Albanians shouldn't fall for the propaganda nonsense their politicans want to make them believe that accusations are 'against the freedom' or 'against the independence' or 'against Kosovo' or 'against all Albanians'. No, they are only against Thaci and his mafia clans, or against Limaj as the commander of some KLA group.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

iliri,

The lack of detention facilities does not mean that you execute prisoners. There is no justification and there is no exception in the Geneva Conventions for that. Not having detention facilities is also an untrue statement because the KLA was maintaining detention facilities, by its own admission, in Albania. Albania was allowing the KLA to base their troops there so that argument is out the window. And mining borders is not a violation of the Geneva Convention. If mining borders was a violation, the US would be in violation with the Korean border. Read the Geneva Convention before you make ridiculous comments. And know the facts before you make stupid comments like a running POW can be shot. Do you know that the Serb officers were caught by Limaj and then escaped or are you making something up to justify murder?

The statements that Limaj is a hero for killing Serbs is disturbing. Does this mean that the Albanian posters here are not offended when they hear that killing Albanians was ok in the Serbian viewpoint? The Albanians see their crimes as legitimate because it is against Serbs while any crime against an Albanian is not because it is an Albanian. There surely can never be peace or rule of law in Kosovo with this mentality. You still live by the kanun, which is never acceptable in advanced societies.

luciano

pre 13 godina

Executing a man in cold blood regardless of what he is wearing is a war crime but more importantly a bestial act showing the true nature of the perpetrator.Limaj is a murderer and deserves the Kentucky form of punishment.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Your words are excellent testimony of K-Albanian mentality!
Murder is good... excellent, thanks!

ida

pre 13 godina

No doubt he did much more than order the death of 2 POW's.
And his putting a witness in a psychiatric institution is reminiscent of the worst of the Soviet system.

bganon

pre 13 godina

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.

Is that from the Slobodan Milosevic book of warfare? Really its too amusing to hear these types of statements from those who think war is a solution. They sound exactly the same as each other.

Perhaps all those who seem to enjoy violence so much should live in one state in a constant state of war. The rest of us peaceful people would be happier to live together in peace.

Analyst

pre 13 godina

"Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!"
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Yes, and nothing wrong with killing some 1000s of Albanians, said the Serb hero Milosevic.

How sick some people are. Disgusting.

bganon

pre 13 godina

Goodness primitive people make me laugh.

We should be reminded why us normal people should not allow a war situation. Those primitives think its an excuse to butcher and support any war crimes they want.

'Its war' they say. 'Not good enough' I say.

Perhaps during peace time these war mongers should also have their civil rights taken from them?

Pizza boy

pre 13 godina

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.
(Agim Kelmendi, 19 March 2011 16:16)

Agim, you forgot to say that man with uniform is an potentian unwillingly organ donor? Why you should killed them, as you can make some money out of them, ehh?

You should stop commenting on here and concentrate on your pizza's.

Pizza boy

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

It just show which kind of state is Kosovo where people like Limaj are heroes. Not only heroes they are in govermant too.

Albanian commentators are from the same party (PDK) or they are really sick individuals.

Dirk

pre 13 godina

UCK, were not angels, of course they killed serbs, it was their job to fight serbian army and police, but they only and only killed serbs with uniforms, not children, women and elders...it has been 12 years that former UCKs are being sent to hague, and no one of them has ever been acused for crimes against humanity, they are merely acused of rounding up albanian spies, and serb prisoners, killing serb prisoners of war, actually was justice for humanity...
(iliri, 20 March 2011 21:30)

This is complete rubbish, UCK was terorist organisation which killed civilians including women and children.

You call that justice for humanity? You are as much as Barbaric as others in Balkans, but for sure the most ignorant ones.

fez

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!

Boris J

pre 13 godina

During the war in Bosnia, all kinds of atrocities have been committed by all sides and, so far, it seems that only Sertbs have been sentenced. Justice has to be done also for Serbs civilians who were killed by Bosniaks, Croats and Kosovar Albanians.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Congratulations! What nation - such heroes. What heroes - such nation. Each post by K-Albanians - compromitations of your tribe.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

limaj killed 2 serbian officers?
No limaj prevented more crimes that these 2 criminals,who killed thousand of inncent people,intend to carry on.
war justice is war justice.
(lili, 20 March 2011 12:02)

Yeah, yeah. War justice is war justice. Killing Prisoners of War = Albanian justice. Deportation all Albanians from Serbian province Kosovo-Metohia is also war justice?

ida

pre 13 godina

UCK is a terrorist organization which was supported by the west in order to breakup and steal more territory of the former Yugoslavia.
Western politicians now are getting rich in the privatizations and the U.S./NATO have a new base and have extended their influence.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

"It is cristal clear that the entire International, official Albanian and Kosovan and Serbian apparatus altogether are trying to discredit UCK."

You have to consider that you are either on the wrong side of the issue and can't admit it or you are a paranoid schizophrenic when you make a comment like this.

UI

pre 13 godina

Sorry B92 but is suspected of ordering the killing of 2 Serbian SOLDIERS in a time of war, not civilians and especially not 12000 of them. Read the Albanian forums and see what those Serb soldiers were caught doing.

Ronghi Syndrome

pre 13 godina

Oh, don't worry B92, Limaj killed more than just 2 Serbian Officers - but there's a huge difference between killing enemy combatants and killing unarmed civilians like the Serbian army did. Serbian army kidnaped 10 thousand Albanians, sent them to Serbia, killed them, and threw their bodies in the river. And your concern is about Limaj killing 2 Serbian officers?

miri

pre 13 godina

A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:41)

Absolutely!
So is the case of Bytyci brothers.

Niko

pre 13 godina

After all these years of false accusations of K-Albanians, all what the serbian propaganda could come up with was an "order to kill enemy officers" (not even plain soldiers or civilians)at the time of war" against one single KLA commander??!!
But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not! Especially when officers and soldiers of Serbia itself have been already convicted on war crimes against civilians by international and serbian courts!

iliri

pre 13 godina

Well, after reading this article, i could not be any prouder of UCK, in Albanian media, it says that Limaj and other were involved in executing albanians and other civilians...probably, that is because albanian media takes news as molds from other slavic media run by edisud

iliri

pre 13 godina

''A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:41) ''

Uck had no facilities, barracks or enough posts, they were guerilla, and had limited number of safehouses, if they spared the prisoners, their position could be revealed and the whole strugle would be saboutaged... UCK even had limited supply corridors as the albanian kosovo border had been mined by serbs, which is a violation of geneve convention as well, perhaps, if serbs didn't mine our borders, serb prisoners would have been kept in UN and red cross camps in Albania, or even Rep-o-Albanian police headquarters would be safer places for serb war prisoners, considering that many kosovo albanians were around the camps during that period, and so revenge killing would be avoided, still it was a risky situation for UCK, ... of course, killing a prisoner of war is a war crime, but if a prisoner of war tries to escape, there is no law in geneve convention that prevents a running prisoner of war from being shot...so it does not count as war crime...if Limaj proves that those two officers tried to escape, then he will be freed of all charges in less than three minutes...Im relieved to hear that the ''war crime'' that they acuse Limaj of isn't the killing women, minors, elders and people which are not fit for war, if in wars, only men died, everything is all right ... instead of senting him to jail we must give Limaj a medal.

lili

pre 13 godina

limaj killed 2 serbian officers?
No limaj prevented more crimes that these 2 criminals,who killed thousand of inncent people,intend to carry on.
war justice is war justice.

Niko

pre 13 godina

After all these years of false accusations of K-Albanians, all what the serbian propaganda could come up with was an "order to kill enemy officers" (not even plain soldiers or civilians)at the time of war" against one single KLA commander??!!
But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not! Especially when officers and soldiers of Serbia itself have been already convicted on war crimes against civilians by international and serbian courts!

iliri

pre 13 godina

It is cristal clear that the entire International, official Albanian and Kosovan and Serbian apparatus altogether are trying to discredit UCK, ... UCK strugle was a rightenous one, was established by ordinary Albanians and diaspora Albanians who were fed up with the perities that all we Albanians, regardles of wether we are from Rep o ALBANIA, Kosovo or Diaspora had to ENDURE during the last 100 years...UCK was born from the hearth of Albanian people, it fought for freedom , it fought against the peripety we the ALbanian nation have been suffering for the last 100 years, wether we were inside or outside state borders....anyway, UCK technically and practically is disbanded, we, Albanians and those who fought for UCK have accepted the reality, and the solution that internationals have proposed for us, and the days we dreamed for a single unifed Albanian state are over...yet, who ever is trying to poisen with propaganda the memory of UCK, will not succeed in removing ''national counsousness'' promoted by UCK, they are only warning the Albanians that no solution will ever be as good as what UCK really wanted...wether limaj executed with cold blood two serbian criminals is not the issue, limaj is only an ''individual''...the issue is the memory of UCK...all this propaganda has only one goal, discrediting UCK...and it is very proffesionally chronometred as well, first they sent haradinaj for a second time, then Marty, then Limaj for another second time... UCK, were not angels, of course they killed serbs, it was their job to fight serbian army and police, but they only and only killed serbs with uniforms, not children, women and elders...it has been 12 years that former UCKs are being sent to hague, and no one of them has ever been acused for crimes against humanity, they are merely acused of rounding up albanian spies, and serb prisoners, killing serb prisoners of war, actually was justice for humanity...

Denis

pre 13 godina

As an Albanian I am pretty sure that many of the ex-KLA did use violence against Serbian prisoners and (Milo's)"civilian" officials. But we are yet to see a well organized and premeditated attack on Serbian civilians by the KLA. In fact every time KLA attacked Serbian security forces, Serbia responded by killing civilians. Adem Jashari for example, the founder of the KLA, was barbarically killed along with some 30 members of his family most of them women and children, after it was surrounded in his home. What civilized nation on this earth would send the police to carelessly annihilate an entire family of what it consideres to be its own citizens?

We all know that the brutality and barbarism of Serbian thugs in the 90s during Balkan conflicts by far surpasses the reaction of the others. Whatever Serbs try to justify and equal themselves with their victims, or act as if they suffered as much as the others, we all know that's not near the truth. Sure Germany suffered a lot during WWII as well, but due to their own guilt.

When it comes to mass murder, barbarism and cleansing all others learned from Serbs in the 90s, that's why Serbs have the vast majority of those indicted for war crimes in Hague tribunal, and are know to be the authors of some of the largest mass graves in Europe for the second half of the 20th century.

Without a doubt I think KLA committed crimes. We are talking about a guerilla force that did not have the means to behave like a regular army. Of course some individuals from KLA took matters in their own hands, to seek retribution for what happend to their families, but we all know this was an exception, that is why there are no accounts of organized attacks on K-Serbs from KLA.

But the killing of K-Alb civilians has been a hobby of the Serbian state for now 100 years. I rememebr the testimony of General W. Clark, when he asked Milosivic in 1999, how did he plan to deal with the Albanian uprising, Milosevic responed "Oh as we have always dealt with them, just like we dealt with them in 1945, kill them, kill them all...".

Felix

pre 13 godina

Regardless to all efforts of numerous Kosovo's Albaninan commentators who try to justify the KLA crimes against Serbian population, the facts are cruelly exact. After the NATO agression up to 300.000 Serbs had to leave Kosovo and Metohija as well as 4.000 additional who did it upon well orchestrated attacks on March 17, 2004. Very few of them returned there because Kosovo authorities and their mentors from the West prevent it perfidiously. Therefore, it is the ethnic cleansing and genocide. Not to mention the barbarism in destroying more than 100 Orthodox churches and monasteries from which some were built in the 13.,14. and 15. century. The target is to eliminate all the traces that Kosovo and Metohija has always been Serbian territory. KLA is a terrorist organization responsible for many crimes and I hope that those who committed atrocities and ethnic cleansing will be brought to justice, sooner or later. Including the top men of the Kosovo establishment too.

lili

pre 13 godina

(Grzegorz,
and what about the déportation of thousands of albanians in serbian baracks in belgrade?There bodies were under he feets of the serbian soldiers at batajnice...
I am grateful to limaj and all uckmen who did stop your disgusting army and by so doing prevent the killing of more albanians.

lili

pre 13 godina

felix,
just one thing:all these serbs get out of kosovo before kosovars get back to kosovo.They all fled to serbia escorted with their army,and not at all under the pression of the uck men!(just have a look at the video of this period)
Why did they do so according to you? I tell you:because they do know pretty well what they have done to us all these 10 years preceding the war,and what they have done is pretty enough :they have killed,raped,tortured each day albanians.
i know that you are convinced that albanians all of a sudden decided "we want war" but i tell you we did have patience,we did support a lot,but in fine too much is too much and comes a time when life or death is the same and under serbian rules this time had come for us,that's why we fought for our liberation,even if at that time victory was not even concevable!
whatever you think,we do know that our liberty comes from these guys,who risked their lives to save their people.So we are and will be for ever grateful to them.
you are free to admire your heroes Milosheviq,mladic and karadjic,
Mine are better ones!

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

According to the daily, EULEX thinks the ex-KLA commander ordered the murder of two Serbian officers in 1999.

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.

fez

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!

lili

pre 13 godina

limaj killed 2 serbian officers?
No limaj prevented more crimes that these 2 criminals,who killed thousand of inncent people,intend to carry on.
war justice is war justice.

iliri

pre 13 godina

It is cristal clear that the entire International, official Albanian and Kosovan and Serbian apparatus altogether are trying to discredit UCK, ... UCK strugle was a rightenous one, was established by ordinary Albanians and diaspora Albanians who were fed up with the perities that all we Albanians, regardles of wether we are from Rep o ALBANIA, Kosovo or Diaspora had to ENDURE during the last 100 years...UCK was born from the hearth of Albanian people, it fought for freedom , it fought against the peripety we the ALbanian nation have been suffering for the last 100 years, wether we were inside or outside state borders....anyway, UCK technically and practically is disbanded, we, Albanians and those who fought for UCK have accepted the reality, and the solution that internationals have proposed for us, and the days we dreamed for a single unifed Albanian state are over...yet, who ever is trying to poisen with propaganda the memory of UCK, will not succeed in removing ''national counsousness'' promoted by UCK, they are only warning the Albanians that no solution will ever be as good as what UCK really wanted...wether limaj executed with cold blood two serbian criminals is not the issue, limaj is only an ''individual''...the issue is the memory of UCK...all this propaganda has only one goal, discrediting UCK...and it is very proffesionally chronometred as well, first they sent haradinaj for a second time, then Marty, then Limaj for another second time... UCK, were not angels, of course they killed serbs, it was their job to fight serbian army and police, but they only and only killed serbs with uniforms, not children, women and elders...it has been 12 years that former UCKs are being sent to hague, and no one of them has ever been acused for crimes against humanity, they are merely acused of rounding up albanian spies, and serb prisoners, killing serb prisoners of war, actually was justice for humanity...

iliri

pre 13 godina

''A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:41) ''

Uck had no facilities, barracks or enough posts, they were guerilla, and had limited number of safehouses, if they spared the prisoners, their position could be revealed and the whole strugle would be saboutaged... UCK even had limited supply corridors as the albanian kosovo border had been mined by serbs, which is a violation of geneve convention as well, perhaps, if serbs didn't mine our borders, serb prisoners would have been kept in UN and red cross camps in Albania, or even Rep-o-Albanian police headquarters would be safer places for serb war prisoners, considering that many kosovo albanians were around the camps during that period, and so revenge killing would be avoided, still it was a risky situation for UCK, ... of course, killing a prisoner of war is a war crime, but if a prisoner of war tries to escape, there is no law in geneve convention that prevents a running prisoner of war from being shot...so it does not count as war crime...if Limaj proves that those two officers tried to escape, then he will be freed of all charges in less than three minutes...Im relieved to hear that the ''war crime'' that they acuse Limaj of isn't the killing women, minors, elders and people which are not fit for war, if in wars, only men died, everything is all right ... instead of senting him to jail we must give Limaj a medal.

iliri

pre 13 godina

Well, after reading this article, i could not be any prouder of UCK, in Albanian media, it says that Limaj and other were involved in executing albanians and other civilians...probably, that is because albanian media takes news as molds from other slavic media run by edisud

Ronghi Syndrome

pre 13 godina

Oh, don't worry B92, Limaj killed more than just 2 Serbian Officers - but there's a huge difference between killing enemy combatants and killing unarmed civilians like the Serbian army did. Serbian army kidnaped 10 thousand Albanians, sent them to Serbia, killed them, and threw their bodies in the river. And your concern is about Limaj killing 2 Serbian officers?

UI

pre 13 godina

Sorry B92 but is suspected of ordering the killing of 2 Serbian SOLDIERS in a time of war, not civilians and especially not 12000 of them. Read the Albanian forums and see what those Serb soldiers were caught doing.

Niko

pre 13 godina

After all these years of false accusations of K-Albanians, all what the serbian propaganda could come up with was an "order to kill enemy officers" (not even plain soldiers or civilians)at the time of war" against one single KLA commander??!!
But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not! Especially when officers and soldiers of Serbia itself have been already convicted on war crimes against civilians by international and serbian courts!

miri

pre 13 godina

A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:41)

Absolutely!
So is the case of Bytyci brothers.

Niko

pre 13 godina

After all these years of false accusations of K-Albanians, all what the serbian propaganda could come up with was an "order to kill enemy officers" (not even plain soldiers or civilians)at the time of war" against one single KLA commander??!!
But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not! Especially when officers and soldiers of Serbia itself have been already convicted on war crimes against civilians by international and serbian courts!

Denis

pre 13 godina

As an Albanian I am pretty sure that many of the ex-KLA did use violence against Serbian prisoners and (Milo's)"civilian" officials. But we are yet to see a well organized and premeditated attack on Serbian civilians by the KLA. In fact every time KLA attacked Serbian security forces, Serbia responded by killing civilians. Adem Jashari for example, the founder of the KLA, was barbarically killed along with some 30 members of his family most of them women and children, after it was surrounded in his home. What civilized nation on this earth would send the police to carelessly annihilate an entire family of what it consideres to be its own citizens?

We all know that the brutality and barbarism of Serbian thugs in the 90s during Balkan conflicts by far surpasses the reaction of the others. Whatever Serbs try to justify and equal themselves with their victims, or act as if they suffered as much as the others, we all know that's not near the truth. Sure Germany suffered a lot during WWII as well, but due to their own guilt.

When it comes to mass murder, barbarism and cleansing all others learned from Serbs in the 90s, that's why Serbs have the vast majority of those indicted for war crimes in Hague tribunal, and are know to be the authors of some of the largest mass graves in Europe for the second half of the 20th century.

Without a doubt I think KLA committed crimes. We are talking about a guerilla force that did not have the means to behave like a regular army. Of course some individuals from KLA took matters in their own hands, to seek retribution for what happend to their families, but we all know this was an exception, that is why there are no accounts of organized attacks on K-Serbs from KLA.

But the killing of K-Alb civilians has been a hobby of the Serbian state for now 100 years. I rememebr the testimony of General W. Clark, when he asked Milosivic in 1999, how did he plan to deal with the Albanian uprising, Milosevic responed "Oh as we have always dealt with them, just like we dealt with them in 1945, kill them, kill them all...".

Boris J

pre 13 godina

During the war in Bosnia, all kinds of atrocities have been committed by all sides and, so far, it seems that only Sertbs have been sentenced. Justice has to be done also for Serbs civilians who were killed by Bosniaks, Croats and Kosovar Albanians.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

A captured combatant is a Prisoner of War and has to be treated humanely even when the other side doesn't comply with the rules of war in the Geneva Convention. Limaj along with his associates are guilty of a war crime if they killed any captured enemies.

Top

pre 13 godina

"The medical file found in his house shows how a witness against the suspect was put in a psychiatric clinic by Limaj and his associates in order to discredit him."

Great to see how creative these Kosovo Albanian leaders and politicans are. I thought witnesses who dared to testify against criminals are usually killed and/or intimidated in the independent mafia state of Kosovo.

And some people here even defend their behaviour and think it's normal. Says a lot about their mentality.

bganon

pre 13 godina

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.

Is that from the Slobodan Milosevic book of warfare? Really its too amusing to hear these types of statements from those who think war is a solution. They sound exactly the same as each other.

Perhaps all those who seem to enjoy violence so much should live in one state in a constant state of war. The rest of us peaceful people would be happier to live together in peace.

luciano

pre 13 godina

Executing a man in cold blood regardless of what he is wearing is a war crime but more importantly a bestial act showing the true nature of the perpetrator.Limaj is a murderer and deserves the Kentucky form of punishment.

Analyst

pre 13 godina

"Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!"
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Yes, and nothing wrong with killing some 1000s of Albanians, said the Serb hero Milosevic.

How sick some people are. Disgusting.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Congratulations! What nation - such heroes. What heroes - such nation. Each post by K-Albanians - compromitations of your tribe.

Pizza boy

pre 13 godina

During war time, anybody with uniform and or armed with weapon is a legit target.
(Agim Kelmendi, 19 March 2011 16:16)

Agim, you forgot to say that man with uniform is an potentian unwillingly organ donor? Why you should killed them, as you can make some money out of them, ehh?

You should stop commenting on here and concentrate on your pizza's.

ida

pre 13 godina

No doubt he did much more than order the death of 2 POW's.
And his putting a witness in a psychiatric institution is reminiscent of the worst of the Soviet system.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

Your words are excellent testimony of K-Albanian mentality!
Murder is good... excellent, thanks!

Top

pre 13 godina

"But for the sake of argument, let's say Limaj is found guilty!
Does this make KLA also guilty of war crimes?
Does this invalidate the legitimacy of declaring independence from Serbia? Absolutely not!
(Niko, 19 March 2011 22:40)

Surely not. These things are simply not connected. The KLA cannot be guilty of war crimes, just like the Serbian Army cannot be guilty of war crimes. Individual persons who commited or ordered those illegal killings are guilty. Simple and easy.
Kosovo Albanians shouldn't fall for the propaganda nonsense their politicans want to make them believe that accusations are 'against the freedom' or 'against the independence' or 'against Kosovo' or 'against all Albanians'. No, they are only against Thaci and his mafia clans, or against Limaj as the commander of some KLA group.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

limaj killed 2 serbian officers?
No limaj prevented more crimes that these 2 criminals,who killed thousand of inncent people,intend to carry on.
war justice is war justice.
(lili, 20 March 2011 12:02)

Yeah, yeah. War justice is war justice. Killing Prisoners of War = Albanian justice. Deportation all Albanians from Serbian province Kosovo-Metohia is also war justice?

bganon

pre 13 godina

Goodness primitive people make me laugh.

We should be reminded why us normal people should not allow a war situation. Those primitives think its an excuse to butcher and support any war crimes they want.

'Its war' they say. 'Not good enough' I say.

Perhaps during peace time these war mongers should also have their civil rights taken from them?

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

iliri,

The lack of detention facilities does not mean that you execute prisoners. There is no justification and there is no exception in the Geneva Conventions for that. Not having detention facilities is also an untrue statement because the KLA was maintaining detention facilities, by its own admission, in Albania. Albania was allowing the KLA to base their troops there so that argument is out the window. And mining borders is not a violation of the Geneva Convention. If mining borders was a violation, the US would be in violation with the Korean border. Read the Geneva Convention before you make ridiculous comments. And know the facts before you make stupid comments like a running POW can be shot. Do you know that the Serb officers were caught by Limaj and then escaped or are you making something up to justify murder?

The statements that Limaj is a hero for killing Serbs is disturbing. Does this mean that the Albanian posters here are not offended when they hear that killing Albanians was ok in the Serbian viewpoint? The Albanians see their crimes as legitimate because it is against Serbs while any crime against an Albanian is not because it is an Albanian. There surely can never be peace or rule of law in Kosovo with this mentality. You still live by the kanun, which is never acceptable in advanced societies.

Pizza boy

pre 13 godina

piuugh I was a little worried that Limaj had done something bad, but after this artickel, it does not matter even if this i true. Nothing wrong with the execution of enemy officers. You are our hero Limaj!
(fez, 19 March 2011 20:08)

It just show which kind of state is Kosovo where people like Limaj are heroes. Not only heroes they are in govermant too.

Albanian commentators are from the same party (PDK) or they are really sick individuals.

Dirk

pre 13 godina

UCK, were not angels, of course they killed serbs, it was their job to fight serbian army and police, but they only and only killed serbs with uniforms, not children, women and elders...it has been 12 years that former UCKs are being sent to hague, and no one of them has ever been acused for crimes against humanity, they are merely acused of rounding up albanian spies, and serb prisoners, killing serb prisoners of war, actually was justice for humanity...
(iliri, 20 March 2011 21:30)

This is complete rubbish, UCK was terorist organisation which killed civilians including women and children.

You call that justice for humanity? You are as much as Barbaric as others in Balkans, but for sure the most ignorant ones.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

"It is cristal clear that the entire International, official Albanian and Kosovan and Serbian apparatus altogether are trying to discredit UCK."

You have to consider that you are either on the wrong side of the issue and can't admit it or you are a paranoid schizophrenic when you make a comment like this.

ida

pre 13 godina

UCK is a terrorist organization which was supported by the west in order to breakup and steal more territory of the former Yugoslavia.
Western politicians now are getting rich in the privatizations and the U.S./NATO have a new base and have extended their influence.

lili

pre 13 godina

(Grzegorz,
and what about the déportation of thousands of albanians in serbian baracks in belgrade?There bodies were under he feets of the serbian soldiers at batajnice...
I am grateful to limaj and all uckmen who did stop your disgusting army and by so doing prevent the killing of more albanians.

Felix

pre 13 godina

Regardless to all efforts of numerous Kosovo's Albaninan commentators who try to justify the KLA crimes against Serbian population, the facts are cruelly exact. After the NATO agression up to 300.000 Serbs had to leave Kosovo and Metohija as well as 4.000 additional who did it upon well orchestrated attacks on March 17, 2004. Very few of them returned there because Kosovo authorities and their mentors from the West prevent it perfidiously. Therefore, it is the ethnic cleansing and genocide. Not to mention the barbarism in destroying more than 100 Orthodox churches and monasteries from which some were built in the 13.,14. and 15. century. The target is to eliminate all the traces that Kosovo and Metohija has always been Serbian territory. KLA is a terrorist organization responsible for many crimes and I hope that those who committed atrocities and ethnic cleansing will be brought to justice, sooner or later. Including the top men of the Kosovo establishment too.

lili

pre 13 godina

felix,
just one thing:all these serbs get out of kosovo before kosovars get back to kosovo.They all fled to serbia escorted with their army,and not at all under the pression of the uck men!(just have a look at the video of this period)
Why did they do so according to you? I tell you:because they do know pretty well what they have done to us all these 10 years preceding the war,and what they have done is pretty enough :they have killed,raped,tortured each day albanians.
i know that you are convinced that albanians all of a sudden decided "we want war" but i tell you we did have patience,we did support a lot,but in fine too much is too much and comes a time when life or death is the same and under serbian rules this time had come for us,that's why we fought for our liberation,even if at that time victory was not even concevable!
whatever you think,we do know that our liberty comes from these guys,who risked their lives to save their people.So we are and will be for ever grateful to them.
you are free to admire your heroes Milosheviq,mladic and karadjic,
Mine are better ones!