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Saturday, 19.03.2011.

14:11

KFOR withdraws from Kosovo-Macedonia border

KFOR completely withdrew from the border between Kosovo and Macedonia on Saturday, leaving the border in the hands of the Kosovo police (KPS).

Izvor: Tanjug

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trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Are you saying that since the issue wasn't solved in 2006, Kosovo's status is on the table again?
(American Eagle)
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If you are happy with the current circumstance in kosovo, I suggest you go to Pristina and tell everyone to smile b/c the people there are definitly not as optimistic as you.

The only way forward is with Serbia. This is reality. It will take time to sink in, unfortunatly in the mean time the people will fight for a fake/lost cause.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Your prejudice does not need any comment.
It just tell as Albanians that nothing has changed in Serbian mind from Milloshevic area and before that. It just tells us that there is nothing to talk with you."
(gjon fusha, 20 March 2011 03:59)

Prejudice? What was the name of the 'country' where a border police officer committed suicide because his senior chief told him to turn a blind eye on smuggling? Where the PM is a former chief of a certified (by several foreign intelligence agencies) drug smuggling gang? Not a hard question to find out :-)

Ataman

pre 13 godina

The international community didn't tolerate the Albanians in Macedonia when they tried to break from Macedonia and they didn't tolerate the Albanians in Serbia when they tried the same. And do you really believe that the EU would accept Albania into the EU with Kosovo as a part of Albania considering it would be Albania and Kosovo ignoring the EU.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:54)

Oh, my - you just probably broke some dreams. I was under impression, the declared goal of international community is to restore Ancient Dardania with Nish, Sanxhaku, northern Greece and even Toskana in Italy (obviously from the word "Tosk") being part of it.

You want to say - only if halal pigs fly faster than Larry Ellison's private fighter jets?

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

Congratulations, and happy smuggling and trafficking :)
(Top, 19 March 2011 14:27)

Your prejudice does not need any comment.
It just tell as Albanians that nothing has changed in Serbian mind from Milloshevic area and before that. It just tells us that there is nothing to talk with you.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''There was no returning to pre-1999 status, no change of borders, and no merging of countries (Kosovo and Albania).''

Both ALbanians of Albania and Kosovo want nothing more as well, merging would be stupid, well for albanians it might be allright, but in case ALbania and Kosovo merged, not only serbia, but montenegro, fyrom and greece would feel threatened, and suddenly we would have more and more tensions in the region, bosnia too would be destabilised...when albanians talk with albanians in coffee shops always reach this kind of conclusion, looking ''big'' on the map is just stupid, with the common currency, free movement, protection of civil rights and close coperations of policies, finance, trade etc, borders are merely formal, just like in EU, in EU a german is free to live in france and work in Belgium without being worried of visas extent, residential permit, taxation etc.. but when we talk in forums we say '' the league of prizren is not over'' '' ethnic albania'' Actually, EU integration of the entire region would solve all the problems, in Fyrom albanians are impatient because slavs in fyrom are the reason the country is not being integrated in NATO and EU wbecause of the name issue, Albanians, who could care less about the name, blame slavs for the problems, slavs one the other side are busy with settling their identityi because , in balkans, if you don't have a 2000 year old name and identity, you are not a true balkanic nation, and consequently both albanians, and slavofyromians in fyromland are becoming more and more nationalistic, which is a typical balkan tragic comedy which usually either starts up with armed conflicts or ends up in armed conflicts, who cares who was who 2000 years ago, anyway...

pss

pre 13 godina

Congratulations, and happy smuggling and trafficking :)
(Top, 19 March 2011 14:27)
Don't understand why this would make a difference. Most everything smuggled to/from Kosovo is across the Kosovo/Serbian border but it is seen as a Kosovo isssue and not a Serbian one.

luciano

pre 13 godina

The Albanian guards at the border will all be living in mansions and driving Porsches by the end of the year.The heroin will pour in,human trafficing,weapons smuggling,white slavery all increase tenfold.Great news for European drug users and for johns visiting prostitutes cause the prices will go down due to the tenfold increase of supply.Lucky dogs those privileged few who get these kinds of cozy jobs.

Ronghi Syndrome

pre 13 godina

"During the negotiations that started in 2006, there were three premises that the two sides (Kosovo and Serbia) had to work with..."

Well, Kosova kept its part of the bargain, the other side didn't (neither Serbia nor the intl community.)
The fact that Kosova and Serbia are again at the discussion table, means that whatever premises that were in 2006 are out of the window. The union with Albania, is very much in agenda and more popular than ever.

iliri

pre 13 godina

Maybe after the talks, we will get to control our northen borders as well...

In 2001,in order to make italy shut their mouth around EU meetings, Albanian gov burned motorboats regardles wether they were illegal or not , still, smugling, into italy continued through montenegro, tunisia , former yugoslavia, etc...during 90s itaians blamed Albanians, and they were right,now in the 2000s and 2010s that we practically and officially set a corfue over our seas, and now that we have modern patrol boats, nothing is coming out and in...still , it seems that italy is unable to control its own waters, now emmigrants, even use greece as a bridge to italy...blaming albanians for smugling is merely propaganda to cover powerful domestic maphia and its ties with italian gov, at least in the italian case...considering the Albanian success to solve the traffic problem through waters, it highy probable that NATO asks us to cover Montenegro...

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

During the negotiations that started in 2006, there were three premises that the two sides (Kosovo and Serbia) had to work with. There was no returning to pre-1999 status, no change of borders, and no merging of countries (Kosovo and Albania). How fast do you think the international community would recognize Albania and Kosovo as one country when both countries would be ignoring the requirements that were put forth? No one would recognize the merger. The international community didn't tolerate the Albanians in Macedonia when they tried to break from Macedonia and they didn't tolerate the Albanians in Serbia when they tried the same. And do you really believe that the EU would accept Albania into the EU with Kosovo as a part of Albania considering it would be Albania and Kosovo ignoring the EU. If you think mergers are that simple, consider Moldavia and Romania. Same people and same language but still two separate countries because the international community won't allow the merger. Kosovo is required to be a tolerant multi-ethnic society, which already isn't happening, and surely wouldn't happen with a merger with Albania. Keep dreaming but quit talking. It's not going to happen.

You should also note that the article says that the ABL with Serbia is still under KFOR control. Unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo, which won't happen in this lifetime, I don't think that will ever change. Kosovo can't even send KPS to the border without KFOR protection because the KPS is afraid.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Did they ask Serbs what to do?
(ivan, 19 March 2011 16:37)

ops, you are right ivan. How in the world this happened without getting a permission from serbia?
serbia, who? who cares what the word serbia means.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Step by step, the Albanian plan is successfully going in place. Good job, KFor, though. Soon, you will be completely replaced by Albanian troops.

Demi

pre 13 godina

I predict more weapons, drugs & prostitutes will flood Europe. Until VS & MUP move in after KFOR is gone next year.
(highduke, 19 March 2011 14:43)


You are just daydreaming Highdude. Albanians will wait with cakes and flowers when VS/Mup come to the region arent that right also??

People like you make my day when I read your comments.

Ylber

pre 13 godina

I remember when my family and I were being forced out of Kosovo by Serb troops, we spent 48 hours at the Kosovo/Macedonia border. Leaving there I had a feeling that things would be different at this place down the road. It’s great to see that justice has prevailed and this border is now manned by Albanian police instead of the war criminals of the past. I wonder long it will take for this to become the Albania/Macedonia border when Kosovo gets absorbed into Albania. If it only took just shy of 12 years for the border to be solely in Kosovo Albanian hands I would think in another 12 years or so we should be there.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

I predict more weapons, drugs & prostitutes will flood Europe. Until VS & MUP move in after KFOR is gone next year.
(highduke, 19 March 2011 14:43)

Dream on highduke. Your name highduke is for a reason.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

I predict more weapons, drugs & prostitutes will flood Europe. Until VS & MUP move in after KFOR is gone next year.
(highduke, 19 March 2011 14:43)

Dream on highduke. Your name highduke is for a reason.

Ylber

pre 13 godina

I remember when my family and I were being forced out of Kosovo by Serb troops, we spent 48 hours at the Kosovo/Macedonia border. Leaving there I had a feeling that things would be different at this place down the road. It’s great to see that justice has prevailed and this border is now manned by Albanian police instead of the war criminals of the past. I wonder long it will take for this to become the Albania/Macedonia border when Kosovo gets absorbed into Albania. If it only took just shy of 12 years for the border to be solely in Kosovo Albanian hands I would think in another 12 years or so we should be there.

Demi

pre 13 godina

I predict more weapons, drugs & prostitutes will flood Europe. Until VS & MUP move in after KFOR is gone next year.
(highduke, 19 March 2011 14:43)


You are just daydreaming Highdude. Albanians will wait with cakes and flowers when VS/Mup come to the region arent that right also??

People like you make my day when I read your comments.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Step by step, the Albanian plan is successfully going in place. Good job, KFor, though. Soon, you will be completely replaced by Albanian troops.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Did they ask Serbs what to do?
(ivan, 19 March 2011 16:37)

ops, you are right ivan. How in the world this happened without getting a permission from serbia?
serbia, who? who cares what the word serbia means.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

During the negotiations that started in 2006, there were three premises that the two sides (Kosovo and Serbia) had to work with. There was no returning to pre-1999 status, no change of borders, and no merging of countries (Kosovo and Albania). How fast do you think the international community would recognize Albania and Kosovo as one country when both countries would be ignoring the requirements that were put forth? No one would recognize the merger. The international community didn't tolerate the Albanians in Macedonia when they tried to break from Macedonia and they didn't tolerate the Albanians in Serbia when they tried the same. And do you really believe that the EU would accept Albania into the EU with Kosovo as a part of Albania considering it would be Albania and Kosovo ignoring the EU. If you think mergers are that simple, consider Moldavia and Romania. Same people and same language but still two separate countries because the international community won't allow the merger. Kosovo is required to be a tolerant multi-ethnic society, which already isn't happening, and surely wouldn't happen with a merger with Albania. Keep dreaming but quit talking. It's not going to happen.

You should also note that the article says that the ABL with Serbia is still under KFOR control. Unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo, which won't happen in this lifetime, I don't think that will ever change. Kosovo can't even send KPS to the border without KFOR protection because the KPS is afraid.

pss

pre 13 godina

Congratulations, and happy smuggling and trafficking :)
(Top, 19 March 2011 14:27)
Don't understand why this would make a difference. Most everything smuggled to/from Kosovo is across the Kosovo/Serbian border but it is seen as a Kosovo isssue and not a Serbian one.

Ronghi Syndrome

pre 13 godina

"During the negotiations that started in 2006, there were three premises that the two sides (Kosovo and Serbia) had to work with..."

Well, Kosova kept its part of the bargain, the other side didn't (neither Serbia nor the intl community.)
The fact that Kosova and Serbia are again at the discussion table, means that whatever premises that were in 2006 are out of the window. The union with Albania, is very much in agenda and more popular than ever.

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

Congratulations, and happy smuggling and trafficking :)
(Top, 19 March 2011 14:27)

Your prejudice does not need any comment.
It just tell as Albanians that nothing has changed in Serbian mind from Milloshevic area and before that. It just tells us that there is nothing to talk with you.

luciano

pre 13 godina

The Albanian guards at the border will all be living in mansions and driving Porsches by the end of the year.The heroin will pour in,human trafficing,weapons smuggling,white slavery all increase tenfold.Great news for European drug users and for johns visiting prostitutes cause the prices will go down due to the tenfold increase of supply.Lucky dogs those privileged few who get these kinds of cozy jobs.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''There was no returning to pre-1999 status, no change of borders, and no merging of countries (Kosovo and Albania).''

Both ALbanians of Albania and Kosovo want nothing more as well, merging would be stupid, well for albanians it might be allright, but in case ALbania and Kosovo merged, not only serbia, but montenegro, fyrom and greece would feel threatened, and suddenly we would have more and more tensions in the region, bosnia too would be destabilised...when albanians talk with albanians in coffee shops always reach this kind of conclusion, looking ''big'' on the map is just stupid, with the common currency, free movement, protection of civil rights and close coperations of policies, finance, trade etc, borders are merely formal, just like in EU, in EU a german is free to live in france and work in Belgium without being worried of visas extent, residential permit, taxation etc.. but when we talk in forums we say '' the league of prizren is not over'' '' ethnic albania'' Actually, EU integration of the entire region would solve all the problems, in Fyrom albanians are impatient because slavs in fyrom are the reason the country is not being integrated in NATO and EU wbecause of the name issue, Albanians, who could care less about the name, blame slavs for the problems, slavs one the other side are busy with settling their identityi because , in balkans, if you don't have a 2000 year old name and identity, you are not a true balkanic nation, and consequently both albanians, and slavofyromians in fyromland are becoming more and more nationalistic, which is a typical balkan tragic comedy which usually either starts up with armed conflicts or ends up in armed conflicts, who cares who was who 2000 years ago, anyway...

Ataman

pre 13 godina

The international community didn't tolerate the Albanians in Macedonia when they tried to break from Macedonia and they didn't tolerate the Albanians in Serbia when they tried the same. And do you really believe that the EU would accept Albania into the EU with Kosovo as a part of Albania considering it would be Albania and Kosovo ignoring the EU.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:54)

Oh, my - you just probably broke some dreams. I was under impression, the declared goal of international community is to restore Ancient Dardania with Nish, Sanxhaku, northern Greece and even Toskana in Italy (obviously from the word "Tosk") being part of it.

You want to say - only if halal pigs fly faster than Larry Ellison's private fighter jets?

iliri

pre 13 godina

Maybe after the talks, we will get to control our northen borders as well...

In 2001,in order to make italy shut their mouth around EU meetings, Albanian gov burned motorboats regardles wether they were illegal or not , still, smugling, into italy continued through montenegro, tunisia , former yugoslavia, etc...during 90s itaians blamed Albanians, and they were right,now in the 2000s and 2010s that we practically and officially set a corfue over our seas, and now that we have modern patrol boats, nothing is coming out and in...still , it seems that italy is unable to control its own waters, now emmigrants, even use greece as a bridge to italy...blaming albanians for smugling is merely propaganda to cover powerful domestic maphia and its ties with italian gov, at least in the italian case...considering the Albanian success to solve the traffic problem through waters, it highy probable that NATO asks us to cover Montenegro...

Top

pre 13 godina

"Your prejudice does not need any comment.
It just tell as Albanians that nothing has changed in Serbian mind from Milloshevic area and before that. It just tells us that there is nothing to talk with you."
(gjon fusha, 20 March 2011 03:59)

Prejudice? What was the name of the 'country' where a border police officer committed suicide because his senior chief told him to turn a blind eye on smuggling? Where the PM is a former chief of a certified (by several foreign intelligence agencies) drug smuggling gang? Not a hard question to find out :-)

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Are you saying that since the issue wasn't solved in 2006, Kosovo's status is on the table again?
(American Eagle)
-
If you are happy with the current circumstance in kosovo, I suggest you go to Pristina and tell everyone to smile b/c the people there are definitly not as optimistic as you.

The only way forward is with Serbia. This is reality. It will take time to sink in, unfortunatly in the mean time the people will fight for a fake/lost cause.

Ylber

pre 13 godina

I remember when my family and I were being forced out of Kosovo by Serb troops, we spent 48 hours at the Kosovo/Macedonia border. Leaving there I had a feeling that things would be different at this place down the road. It’s great to see that justice has prevailed and this border is now manned by Albanian police instead of the war criminals of the past. I wonder long it will take for this to become the Albania/Macedonia border when Kosovo gets absorbed into Albania. If it only took just shy of 12 years for the border to be solely in Kosovo Albanian hands I would think in another 12 years or so we should be there.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

I predict more weapons, drugs & prostitutes will flood Europe. Until VS & MUP move in after KFOR is gone next year.
(highduke, 19 March 2011 14:43)

Dream on highduke. Your name highduke is for a reason.

Demi

pre 13 godina

I predict more weapons, drugs & prostitutes will flood Europe. Until VS & MUP move in after KFOR is gone next year.
(highduke, 19 March 2011 14:43)


You are just daydreaming Highdude. Albanians will wait with cakes and flowers when VS/Mup come to the region arent that right also??

People like you make my day when I read your comments.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Did they ask Serbs what to do?
(ivan, 19 March 2011 16:37)

ops, you are right ivan. How in the world this happened without getting a permission from serbia?
serbia, who? who cares what the word serbia means.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Step by step, the Albanian plan is successfully going in place. Good job, KFor, though. Soon, you will be completely replaced by Albanian troops.

American Eagle

pre 13 godina

During the negotiations that started in 2006, there were three premises that the two sides (Kosovo and Serbia) had to work with. There was no returning to pre-1999 status, no change of borders, and no merging of countries (Kosovo and Albania). How fast do you think the international community would recognize Albania and Kosovo as one country when both countries would be ignoring the requirements that were put forth? No one would recognize the merger. The international community didn't tolerate the Albanians in Macedonia when they tried to break from Macedonia and they didn't tolerate the Albanians in Serbia when they tried the same. And do you really believe that the EU would accept Albania into the EU with Kosovo as a part of Albania considering it would be Albania and Kosovo ignoring the EU. If you think mergers are that simple, consider Moldavia and Romania. Same people and same language but still two separate countries because the international community won't allow the merger. Kosovo is required to be a tolerant multi-ethnic society, which already isn't happening, and surely wouldn't happen with a merger with Albania. Keep dreaming but quit talking. It's not going to happen.

You should also note that the article says that the ABL with Serbia is still under KFOR control. Unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo, which won't happen in this lifetime, I don't think that will ever change. Kosovo can't even send KPS to the border without KFOR protection because the KPS is afraid.

luciano

pre 13 godina

The Albanian guards at the border will all be living in mansions and driving Porsches by the end of the year.The heroin will pour in,human trafficing,weapons smuggling,white slavery all increase tenfold.Great news for European drug users and for johns visiting prostitutes cause the prices will go down due to the tenfold increase of supply.Lucky dogs those privileged few who get these kinds of cozy jobs.

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

Congratulations, and happy smuggling and trafficking :)
(Top, 19 March 2011 14:27)

Your prejudice does not need any comment.
It just tell as Albanians that nothing has changed in Serbian mind from Milloshevic area and before that. It just tells us that there is nothing to talk with you.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

The international community didn't tolerate the Albanians in Macedonia when they tried to break from Macedonia and they didn't tolerate the Albanians in Serbia when they tried the same. And do you really believe that the EU would accept Albania into the EU with Kosovo as a part of Albania considering it would be Albania and Kosovo ignoring the EU.
(American Eagle, 19 March 2011 18:54)

Oh, my - you just probably broke some dreams. I was under impression, the declared goal of international community is to restore Ancient Dardania with Nish, Sanxhaku, northern Greece and even Toskana in Italy (obviously from the word "Tosk") being part of it.

You want to say - only if halal pigs fly faster than Larry Ellison's private fighter jets?

Ronghi Syndrome

pre 13 godina

"During the negotiations that started in 2006, there were three premises that the two sides (Kosovo and Serbia) had to work with..."

Well, Kosova kept its part of the bargain, the other side didn't (neither Serbia nor the intl community.)
The fact that Kosova and Serbia are again at the discussion table, means that whatever premises that were in 2006 are out of the window. The union with Albania, is very much in agenda and more popular than ever.

pss

pre 13 godina

Congratulations, and happy smuggling and trafficking :)
(Top, 19 March 2011 14:27)
Don't understand why this would make a difference. Most everything smuggled to/from Kosovo is across the Kosovo/Serbian border but it is seen as a Kosovo isssue and not a Serbian one.

iliri

pre 13 godina

Maybe after the talks, we will get to control our northen borders as well...

In 2001,in order to make italy shut their mouth around EU meetings, Albanian gov burned motorboats regardles wether they were illegal or not , still, smugling, into italy continued through montenegro, tunisia , former yugoslavia, etc...during 90s itaians blamed Albanians, and they were right,now in the 2000s and 2010s that we practically and officially set a corfue over our seas, and now that we have modern patrol boats, nothing is coming out and in...still , it seems that italy is unable to control its own waters, now emmigrants, even use greece as a bridge to italy...blaming albanians for smugling is merely propaganda to cover powerful domestic maphia and its ties with italian gov, at least in the italian case...considering the Albanian success to solve the traffic problem through waters, it highy probable that NATO asks us to cover Montenegro...

iliri

pre 13 godina

''There was no returning to pre-1999 status, no change of borders, and no merging of countries (Kosovo and Albania).''

Both ALbanians of Albania and Kosovo want nothing more as well, merging would be stupid, well for albanians it might be allright, but in case ALbania and Kosovo merged, not only serbia, but montenegro, fyrom and greece would feel threatened, and suddenly we would have more and more tensions in the region, bosnia too would be destabilised...when albanians talk with albanians in coffee shops always reach this kind of conclusion, looking ''big'' on the map is just stupid, with the common currency, free movement, protection of civil rights and close coperations of policies, finance, trade etc, borders are merely formal, just like in EU, in EU a german is free to live in france and work in Belgium without being worried of visas extent, residential permit, taxation etc.. but when we talk in forums we say '' the league of prizren is not over'' '' ethnic albania'' Actually, EU integration of the entire region would solve all the problems, in Fyrom albanians are impatient because slavs in fyrom are the reason the country is not being integrated in NATO and EU wbecause of the name issue, Albanians, who could care less about the name, blame slavs for the problems, slavs one the other side are busy with settling their identityi because , in balkans, if you don't have a 2000 year old name and identity, you are not a true balkanic nation, and consequently both albanians, and slavofyromians in fyromland are becoming more and more nationalistic, which is a typical balkan tragic comedy which usually either starts up with armed conflicts or ends up in armed conflicts, who cares who was who 2000 years ago, anyway...

Top

pre 13 godina

"Your prejudice does not need any comment.
It just tell as Albanians that nothing has changed in Serbian mind from Milloshevic area and before that. It just tells us that there is nothing to talk with you."
(gjon fusha, 20 March 2011 03:59)

Prejudice? What was the name of the 'country' where a border police officer committed suicide because his senior chief told him to turn a blind eye on smuggling? Where the PM is a former chief of a certified (by several foreign intelligence agencies) drug smuggling gang? Not a hard question to find out :-)

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Are you saying that since the issue wasn't solved in 2006, Kosovo's status is on the table again?
(American Eagle)
-
If you are happy with the current circumstance in kosovo, I suggest you go to Pristina and tell everyone to smile b/c the people there are definitly not as optimistic as you.

The only way forward is with Serbia. This is reality. It will take time to sink in, unfortunatly in the mean time the people will fight for a fake/lost cause.