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Sunday, 13.03.2011.

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“Kosovo, Albania could unite”

Kosovo Albanian human rights activist Adem Demaci says that a union between Kosovo and Albania could easily become reality if Serbia did not change its stance.

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jstuxx

pre 11 godina

"...no body cares about the balkans mate, a lot has changed since 1914.. "

They sure cared about it in 1999 thats after 1914 in case you don't know.

If Kosovo can unify with Albania why not Northern Ireland with Ireland, why not Texas and California with Mexico, why not Austria with Germany, why not Romania with Moldova, why not Tranistria with Ukraine.

Remember 1999, had it not been for NATO every Albanian who thought they were so tough would have been forced out. NATO also thinks its tough but it has one weakness and that is it cannot do anything to countries which are either supported by Russia or China, or have nuclear warheads, why do you think there is no intervention in Syria or Iran.

What you just did is you admitted Serbs committed no genocide and all you wanted was more rights. In Macedonia you are less than a third of the population, other there thirds can do the same the Serbs did and no one cares about the Balkans right, no one wants another war right therefore no NATO intervention and you will taught a lesson just like the Chechens in Russia were.

And you do use the same energy sources the Bulgarian nuclear power plant, Bulgaria is practically united with Macedonia, Macedonians can get Bulgarian citizenship, free travel, same energy sources, Macedonian trade might also become dependent on Bulgarian or Greek ports. Plus Bulgaria has uranium as a resource, has a few nuclear warheads left from the Soviet Union and is Russia's strongest ally in the region.

lili

pre 13 godina

chut!!!!!Don't tell serbs that by opposing so hard to kosovo independance and kkosovo european future,they are pushing hard for unification as the only solution for our nation! The more they isolate us,the more we see unification as THE solution, the more they push for our non adhesion to europe the more we will see unification as an evident solution for our nation!
As always ,you are the ones who are helping hard albanian nationalists in the Balkans!So just GO ON!

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Wishful thinking at best.
If albania tried to swallow Kosovo, it would open a pandora's box in the balkans. The rs for then join with serbia, bosnia would erupt into civil war, macedonia would be fighting other Albanians who are trying to steal more land, Croatians in hercegovina would try to unite with croatia, crna gora would probably be divided, you get the picture. Europe would have their hand full because they would have to pick and choose sides very carefully. You get the picture. this would probably even cause WWIII, it would be a chain reaction and a total disaster, but if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't surprise me.
(sinisa, 15 March 2011 16:38) ''

I doubt wwIII would happen because of balkan wars, you serbs, overestimate yourselves, you think the eyes of the world are starring at the balkans...no body cares about the balkans mate, a lot has changed since 1914...Europe has become civilised, they don't care about balkan chauvinsit dreams anymore, and they don't intend another war, even if a wwIII happens, probaly Europe would be the only continent to stay out of it...also Albania will not swallow anything, we are practically united with Kosovo, people freely move between the two countries, from Tirana to Pristina it is only 3hours, and it will become less in the future every one can get an Albanian or a Kosovoan citizenship, people marry each other, Kosovo Armed Forces train in Albania, the highways are patroled by both our police, we use the same energy sources, our harbours and highways for Kosovo are tax free, practically we are one country, and the situation is better like this...we don't need to look BIG on the MAP, that would be foolish...now we are constructing highways connecting Tirana and Skopje for 1 hour and a half...we will even lend our harbours to FYROM, in case they don't resolve their name issue with greece, Durres will probably become the biggest port in adriatic...soon , fyromian trade will become dependent on us, and albanians in fyrom will have more rights, wether slavs like it or not, when it comes to business, politics goes off the window anyway...

We won our war, in 1999, so we are pleased with that, the only ones who think about another war in the balkans, are the serbs, for two reasons: 1) Serbs did not see war in their own territory, a few NATO bombings were enought to fighten them...2) Like the germans who wanted to undo versailles, serbs want to undo kumanovo treaty, and due to the fact that serbs did not see war in their own homes, they think war might be a cool idea...

sinisa

pre 13 godina

Wishful thinking at best.
If albania tried to swallow Kosovo, it would open a pandora's box in the balkans. The rs for then join with serbia, bosnia would erupt into civil war, macedonia would be fighting other Albanians who are trying to steal more land, Croatians in hercegovina would try to unite with croatia, crna gora would probably be divided, you get the picture. Europe would have their hand full because they would have to pick and choose sides very carefully. You get the picture. this would probably even cause WWIII, it would be a chain reaction and a total disaster, but if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't surprise me.

beni

pre 13 godina

I read all the comments and yeas it's true that it was the will of US to free us from tyranny and true apartheid in the middle of EU in 20 century, but you are all forgetting a major country like UK whom are returning the mistakes made in London on 1912 when they separated Albanian territory in three countries originally Albanian territory was 102.000 square kilometers and today is 28.000 square kilometers you got the picture and also Turkey whom also had a will to free us from tyranny and apartheid. Turkey is one of the biggest and most important ally to EU and US and you know what in Turkey live more Albanians then they live in Kosova or Albania, there are more then 5 million, don’t forget that...

Jovan

pre 13 godina

K-albanians displaying their desperate aggressions.

Serbs being calm. with reason.


Serbia will prevail, just a question of time.


as for those unification-dreams: I´d personally love to see them make that mistake. it would be their last one.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''If Kosovo is not an Albanian 'state' but a multi-ethnic one then why unite with Albania? Why not unite with Serbia? Why not unite with Japan? ''

You don't get it, do you? The reason why Kosovo can't join Albania is the North of mitrovica, in order to make serbs happy our Albanian comrades in Pristina changed the flag and proclaimed a multiethnic state, which can not change its borders anymore... eventually serbs there are unhappy, and serbia has practically annexed north of iber to make them happy, if belgrade does not give up north mitrovica and reckognise Kosovo as a state, there is nothing left to do but unite Albania...so it is up to belgrade, either they annex north of mitrovica and end up with a big albanian neighbour next to presevo valley...or accept Kosovo as an multiethnic state and keep the albanians divided in two states...either choise suits us well...we couldn't care less about north mitrovica...but we do care about presevo valley...

sj

pre 13 godina

These so-called "facts" lack supporting evidence. What Serbs are taught in their schools is just pitiful propaganda. The main reason the wars of the 1990's occurred is because Serbia, being the bully in the schoolyard, was attempting to shake down the other Republics and they, justly, refused to tolerate this thug-like behavior.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 March 2011 05:41)

Listen here Duke of Everything You See you have not the slightest idea what you are talking about. I DO NOT LIVE IN SERBIA!!!!!! I live in South East Asia and I have no idea what people are taught in Serbian schools, mate!
You statement shows that you do not have intellectual capacity to see the real picture of the situation and repeat the same mindless nonsense regurgitated by western media – in fact more like US media, they tend to cover a situation in puerile nonsense to lessen the confusion amongst its people. My statement is true whether you like it or not; ask any Slovenian if what I have said is false. Why don’t they hold a poll and asking the following question in both Slovenia and Croatia:
“Did you live better in the old Yugoslavia and would you turn the clock back if you could?”
Can you guess the answer? I know the answer.
For my amusement please explain why is Croatia going through this upheaval now? Has Slobodan Milosevic come back from the dead and causing trouble? I haven’t had a good laugh for a while so I’m looking forward to seeing your answer.

More Serbian false pride with regards to Serbs commenting that the "mighty Serbian Army" is going to invade Kosova if it unifies with Albania.

Really? Think again hot heads. The largest American military base is located in Kosova! Do you really think the Americans are going to mimic the Dutch during Srebernica and hand over the Kosovars to be slaughtered by pimps and criminals parading in Serbian uniforms? The USA will smash every single piece of the Serb army if they even attempted to send one rusty tank over the border. Also, if it unites with Albanina, Albania is a NATO member. An attack on Albania would be an attack on NATO.

The idea that people on these comment boards still invoke the military option for Serbia is insane! Once a person goes that far, no amount of logic can turn their thinking.


Yes I can see the venom in your response and you would love to see the US have another go at Serbia, but sadly for you this is not 1999 but 2011.
Your windbag of a country is about to reach screw-up no. 3, ha, ha, ha. First it was Iraq then Afghanistan and now Libya and you think it will start a war over your Albanians. Oh man you are living in pixy land or smoking something stronger than tobacco?

Anonymous

pre 13 godina

@The Truth Chicago

You really dont know what your talking about. Just because Albania is a NATO member does not mean NATO will protect it after it invades another countrys territory and occupies it. NATO protects its members only when they are attacked, not when theyre attacking.And by the way Spain,Greece,Slovakia,Romania,and Cyprus are all NATO memebers and dont even recognize Kosovo as anything but a Serbian province. Do you really thik that they would allow NATO to intervene on behalf of Albania taking over a region that is legally apart of another country? You really have no idea what your talking about. And another thing, Medvedev and Putin are in power in Russia not the coward Yeltsin. Russia will never allow an unrighteous attack on its last ally west of Belarus. Serbia is strategically important to Russia and Russia would not allow anything to happen to it. Yeltsin was a coward in the 1990s and Russia was in shambles at that time. Russia today is a totally different story and Im sure the NATO would think twice before even thinking about attacking Serbia under Russian protection.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

In the past Slovenia was given special treatment by Tito because he wanted to keep it in Yugoslavia in that it gathered raw materials from Serbia then value added and sold on the international market. What was interesting Tito allowed the Slovenes to keep some of the profits to spend in that part. Croatia was the same as can be seen now. While Serbia carried the burden for all these so called countries. These are facts.
(sj, 14 March 2011 23:19)

sj,

These so-called "facts" lack supporting evidence. What Serbs are taught in their schools is just pitiful propaganda. The main reason the wars of the 1990's occurred is because Serbia, being the bully in the schoolyard, was attempting to shake down the other Republics and they, justly, refused to tolerate this thug-like behavior.

Serge

pre 13 godina

Unification? And where is the papa-gangster's approval? What about germans and french? do they agree? They fought for a greater Albania or for narco-country? Hmmmm...

iliri

pre 13 godina

''He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..
(lids, 13 March 2011 22:03) ''


We are so scared ... nice joke though. Seriously talking, greeks are the ones to worry. Chameria is Albanian land and they know it.

sj

pre 13 godina

(kujon, 14 March 2011 14:19)

You are correct when you say that Slovenia is better than Serbia and I certainly have no problems with that statement.
Slovenia did not suffer the after affects of the 1990s wars. It is well known in the international financial community that Slovenia would have lasted 6 weeks on its own after she broke up with Yugo, but Austria stepped in and thus guaranteed her currency.
Austria has supported Slovenia all this time and continues to do so even today.
Slovenia’s economy has not improved since the break up because it has a small population, little to no industry, no minerals, little other resources except for tourism as income. Without support Slovenia’s position has not changed since the day she proclaimed independence.
However, the one redeeming factor with the Slovenes is that they are an obedient people who do as they are told. Unlike what you see now in Croatia, the Slovenes were careful not to squander too much and that is why the EU continues to support that country. Slovenia was asked to sell or remove industry that was uneconomical to support and they did so i.e. Gorenje went to Serbia as has other industry.
On the other hand Serbia has suffered terribly, but has still managed to stand on its feet. This tells you which economies in that region have good foundations. Let the “Kosovars” try living off their own proceeds and see how long they survive.
In the past Slovenia was given special treatment by Tito because he wanted to keep it in Yugoslavia in that it gathered raw materials from Serbia then value added and sold on the international market. What was interesting Tito allowed the Slovenes to keep some of the profits to spend in that part. Croatia was the same as can be seen now. While Serbia carried the burden for all these so called countries. These are facts.

ben

pre 13 godina

(The Truth Chicago, 14 March 2011 15:42)

“Thanks” truth Chicagio: you just proved the Serbian claims that we Albanians are cowards and need the US to babysit us.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

"Albanian Unification"

Not going to happen on the EU and American watch as Damaci is just fanning the flames between Serbs and Albanians.

If Albania attempted to do it even with tacit NATO support, it would ignite the Balkans again as Albanians in Presevo, FYROM and possibly Montenegro would start armed revolts.

Kosovo political leaders are just becoming more and more frustrated as they continue to be a EU protectorate and not even close to an independant country.

CG

pre 13 godina

(The Truth Chicago, 14 March 2011 15:42)

And here we go again,Albanians threatening,as always,with other peoples military power.
If you really think that the Americans indefenitely will be there fighting for and defending your thugs (especially after Fort Dix,Frankfurt shooting) you should better get your heads examined!
I agree with you that the option of military force to reintegrate our province into the constitutional framework of the Republic of Serbia at the moment doesn`t exist,but only for the moment!
The Americans will leave and the same day the Serbian army will be there,count on it,and there will be nobody defending and doing the dirty job for your terrorists!
As far as this initiative is concerned,what a joke:
Basically he is saying if you Serbs don`t agree to Kosovo independence we will integrate with Albania!
What this guy forgets is that they can unite,dissolve and declare what they want:
De jure(according to international law) Kosovo is still part of Serbia,so every move on his side to "unification" would be null and void,it would legally speaking make no difference from the current situation!
It is a clear sign that they are frustrated and the only way out for them is to dupe and force us into a recognition by building up a threat which doesn`t exist !

miri

pre 13 godina

The naivety of Serb posters leavs anyone speechless.

Kosova is 95% populated by Albanians.
The first question is: How can these readers, see it so impossible for Kosova to integrate with Albania, and on the other hand they see it so normal for Kosova to re-integrate back to Serbia. Mind you again, with an hostile 95% of population that want nothing to do with Serbia.

Second, the statement from Demaci is treated as a direct threat coming from Albanians. This is not a threat, and if will ever be accomplished, it will never involve force. Only the stupidest of the stupidest would think that Albania could or would use force to "anex" Kosova. Demaci is simply showing Serbia the other alternative to K-Independence. Sooner or later, Serbia and Kosova need to move forward and if Serbia stubbornly blocks this progress, other alternatives will be searched. Demaci's statements are intended to show Serb geniuses why K-Independence is a big compromise.

Third, nothing can be done without the go-ahead of NATO and Western powers. The Albanians know this better than anyone. However when that moment comes it will be Serbia's argument over Kosova's argument. Serbia's argument is that K is the Jerusalem of Serbia because it was serbian land 700 years ago. I doubt it will gain much sympathy with this kind of rhetoric. It's just common sense that if someone simply refuses everything, it will not be taken seriously. The moment that Serbia will face two lasting alternatives: K-independence, or Albanian integration we will see Serb politicians singing Kosova's anthem.

Finally, whoever has been in Albania for the past 10 years will notice that integration is just a matter of formality. K-albanians are very much a vital part of Albanian population in Albania and anywhere else. They participate in every aspect of society. Even in politics, they collaborate closely with Albanian authorities. When the question of Albanian integration will be raised, the relations of two countries will be so organic and transparent that the benefit of integration will overcome the problems.
Phrases like “Serbia will never do this and will never do that” are so old and pathetic. Serbia is just another Balkan country that cannot survive a single day without western loans.

The Truth Chicago

pre 13 godina

More Serbian false pride with regards to Serbs commenting that the "mighty Serbian Army" is going to invade Kosova if it unifies with Albania.

Really? Think again hot heads. The largest American military base is located in Kosova! Do you really think the Americans are going to mimic the Dutch during Srebernica and hand over the Kosovars to be slaughtered by pimps and criminals parading in Serbian uniforms? The USA will smash every single piece of the Serb army if they even attempted to send one rusty tank over the border. Also, if it unites with Albanina, Albania is a NATO member. An attack on Albania would be an attack on NATO.

The idea that people on these comment boards still invoke the military option for Serbia is insane! Once a person goes that far, no amount of logic can turn their thinking.

Happy dreaming Serberians. Go back to Mother Russia.

kujon

pre 13 godina

Sj---you had some goo dpoints but you lost me when you said Slovenija would be on the edge without Austria. They have always done fine and are doing fine. THey are better than Serbia is right now.

CG

pre 13 godina

Demaci,you can declare it part of Mars for what I care.
The most important thing is that it is and will stay de jure Serbian:
the UN through UN1244 says so,the overwhelming majority of states think so and all other institutions (EU,NATO) are blocked for them!
I think this is a clear sign of Albanians getting frustrated and nervous,as if they de facto don`t have free travel etc.
The most important thing is that it is legally ours.

sj

pre 13 godina

Serbia is no more self-sufficient than Kosovo. If you lived in Serbia that would be painfully clear. Many people in Serbia are having a hard time surviving on their meager salaries or pensions, let alone those that are jobless. I'm sure any intelligent adult is aware of that. Please don't try to mislead us into buying your childish propaganda.
(Mark Rosen, 14 March 2011 04:57)

This is what you can classify as deluded beyond the realm of imagination. Not only is Serbia self sufficient, but it is the only part of the former Yugoslavia that is in that position.
Let’s look at the others:
Slovenia – tourism is its main source of income; no manufacturing or minerals or other resources to speak of. In fact if it was not for Austria, Slovenia would be teetering on the edge.
Croatia – broke and you now have demonstrations demanding the resignation of the current government resign and calling their politicians thieves.
BiH – a EU-sponsored basket case.
Montenegro and Macedonia – need I say anymore?
Now to Serbia, to compare Kosovo to this region is like comparing Chad, one of the poorest countries in Africa, to Sweden. Serbia has the natural resources such as minerals and ample water, large tracts of arable land and has the ability to borrow money. Why doesn’t Kosovo go to the IMF and do the same???????
What does Kosovo have again? NOTHING but 2 million Albanian mouths to feed. Every facet of Kosovo life comes from EU money. Kosovo makes nothing, it has been a bottonmless money pit form many decades - they do not earn money at all. However, I would be most interested to hear what industry you think Kosovo has now.
Yes, life is hard in Serbia, but let’s now look at the EU or more importantly the countries surrounding Serbia such as Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Czech, Slovakia, Poland, Baltic countries. They are in this so called EU and are no better off than Serbia.
I know what I am talking about, but I suggest that next time you do some more research before posting nonsense.

ben

pre 13 godina

Independence was a compromise solution even for the peaceful Rugova.

The constitutional limitation of Kosova to join Albania was another further compromise and assurance for Russia and Serbia.

They still refuse to acknowledge what the entire civilized world knows now perfectly: Kosova wants to be self governed and above all doesn't want to have to do anything with Serbia.

If you still refuse and mine the progress of Kosova's affirmation in the international community then I see no reason why an Albanian Kosova should not join with Albania.

Personally I agree with you Serbs: Kosova is a fake state - as it's nothing more than an Albanian province: just as Laberia, Mati, Epiri/Cameria, Mirdita etc. It is the northern and largest Albanian province.

If Thaci wants’ to be a PM he must win the votes of Albanians and move is a.. in office in Tirana.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Yes, yes, yes! So the chattering about "multhietnic and democratic Kosova" simply ends. There were nothing more than irredentistic idea of "Great Albania". Yes! Sudetenland 1938 - Kosovo 2008.

Anonymous

pre 13 godina

You don't even know how much I wish Albania even attempts at trying to integrate Kosmet into it. I wish they would do that so the Serbian Army has an excuse to invade Kosovo and retake it. Serbia would have every right to move its army in since its sovereignty is being threatend by an outside force. Albania doesnt have the courage to try something stupid liek that becaus ethey knwo it would mean gameover. Why do you think that unification was not proposed by Albania or the Kosovo Albanians? Because they know that Serbia would move in and destroy them. Simple as that.

John

pre 13 godina

Adem Demaci was imprisoned by Serbia for almost 3 decades...this is what the article conveniently fails to state.



Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 March 2011 18:01)

No. He was imprisoned by YUGOSLAVIA. He was released before the War in Slovenia started, and that was for Nationalism, which eventually broke Yugoslavia apart, and Stalinism, which killed more then Nazism.
Note also, that Serb troops didnt touch him in the 98-99 War

Repercussions

pre 13 godina

This is possibly the greatest idea the Albanians have ever come up with... EVER I say!

It would completely discredit the original 'idea' of poor little "Kosovanians" seeking their freedom from mean old Serbia and show what it really is, nothing but a land grab for an expansionist Albania.

The repercussions of which would be war... so do go on. You'd be doing Serbia a big favour.

Nelli_Canada

pre 13 godina

If I were a Serb I'd take Mr.Demaci's words very seriously. This man spent almost 29 years in comunist prison. He's admired by all Albanians living in balkans and abroad.

Personally I'd like to see Kosova reunite with mother Albania on November 28, 2012, this way 6 million Albanians can celebrate Albania's 100th birthday and the reunification.

Mark Rosen

pre 13 godina

Any Albanian who thinks that there is even the slightest chance of Kosovo joining with Albania is so deluded that they need psychiatric treatment. Kosovo only exists because the west (US) wants a military base in the region and nothing more or less.
There is more of a chance of my great grandfather coming back from the dead than Kosovo joining with Albania proper and that’s guaranteed. No amount of democracy will make this happen and statements by the likes of Adem Demaci are only to bring attention to himself. The west will NEVER allow this to happen because it’s not in their interests – you see they don’t not want a large Islamic country in the centre of Europe.
If Kosovo was self sufficient and was able to stand on its own feet without foreign handouts then there might have been a chance for integration with Albania, but every fiber of the Kosovo Government’s administration is paid for by EU money. If this money was not made available then Kosovo would last about 1 week before collapsing into anarchy.
Why do you ask are these people coming out with these ludicrous statements now? Simply because they are sensing a slow sell out by the EU. With Libya looking more and more of returning to Gaddafi’s regime watch the sell out gather pace. Yes, some of the Albanian politicians are sensing a change in the EU’s stance and that is putting fear into them.
(sj, 13 March 2011 21:39)

sj,

Serbia is no more self-sufficient than Kosovo. If you lived in Serbia that would be painfully clear. Many people in Serbia are having a hard time surviving on their meager salaries or pensions, let alone those that are jobless. I'm sure any intelligent adult is aware of that. Please don't try to mislead us into buying your childish propaganda.

Aleks

pre 13 godina

Demaci forgot to mention FYROM. Why would he expressly exclude that if the unistas all include it? Is he afraid of angering someone or something??? What a coward and bsitter!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

there it is again, the well known phenomenon of albanian phantasies... =)

there should be no doubt among the Albanians that there is no way they could "unite" with Albania...

not only would that be something that NATO could not allow without losing the tiny rest of credibility that they think to have,
no it would also make it possible to react in totally different ways for Serbia, and the World´s majority is backing international law.

that means, other countries could be asked for help, against such an aggressive act.
and keep in mind, this is not the nineties anymore.

no, this fool who is bragging around knows very well that he is talking nonsense.
it´s more likely that he is only carressing the sensitive k-albanian soul..
the reason for this behaviour could be interesting... =)

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..
(lids, 13 March 2011 22:03)

There are 10,000 ethnic greeks in albania, the rest of them (20,000) are greek orthodox albanians. that comes out to a fraction of 1 percent of the total population. thats it pal! anything else on the matter is vociferous propaganda.

Mauro

pre 13 godina

I read so funny stories here... "Kosovo was part of Albania till 1912" ... but if Albania was born in 1912, where were they united ? it's funny that Albanian side claimed they wanted talks and now that talks have started, they say it's bad. Dudes, the music has slowly changed and in next future you will hear different symphonies, believe me !

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

lids wrote: "He should be worried about...". You better read this article on Albin Kurti party expanded in Macedonia.http://english.albeu.com/albania-news/macedonia,-will-be-formed-the-movement--vetevendosje!-/31779/

lids

pre 13 godina

He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..

Peggy

pre 13 godina

# Until 1912 Kosova was an integral part of Albania, but occupied by Turks. Now step by step: first independence and then to join Albania.
(Bardhyl, 13 March 2011 20:17)
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What?

sj

pre 13 godina

Any Albanian who thinks that there is even the slightest chance of Kosovo joining with Albania is so deluded that they need psychiatric treatment. Kosovo only exists because the west (US) wants a military base in the region and nothing more or less.
There is more of a chance of my great grandfather coming back from the dead than Kosovo joining with Albania proper and that’s guaranteed. No amount of democracy will make this happen and statements by the likes of Adem Demaci are only to bring attention to himself. The west will NEVER allow this to happen because it’s not in their interests – you see they don’t not want a large Islamic country in the centre of Europe.
If Kosovo was self sufficient and was able to stand on its own feet without foreign handouts then there might have been a chance for integration with Albania, but every fiber of the Kosovo Government’s administration is paid for by EU money. If this money was not made available then Kosovo would last about 1 week before collapsing into anarchy.
Why do you ask are these people coming out with these ludicrous statements now? Simply because they are sensing a slow sell out by the EU. With Libya looking more and more of returning to Gaddafi’s regime watch the sell out gather pace. Yes, some of the Albanian politicians are sensing a change in the EU’s stance and that is putting fear into them.

Shock trooper in a stupor

pre 13 godina

That can happen only if NATO allows it. And I doubt they will. Nothing much to add to that.
Except the question will Albanian leaders, like the Serbian before, think they can have a final say against NATO will.
Only valiable chance for reunification of not only Kosovo and Serbia, but the entire region, can come not on basis of ethnicity or be done by the elites but only on the basis of class struggle and peoples liberation.

MikeC

pre 13 godina

gjon fusha

Just by your explenation you have proven that I was right in my comment. Just one question: WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Either learn english or don't write at all.

Bardhyl

pre 13 godina

Until 1912 Kosova was an integral part of Albania, but occupied by Turks. Now step by step: first independence and then to join Albania.

Ron

pre 13 godina

If Kosovo is not an Albanian 'state' but a multi-ethnic one then why unite with Albania? Why not unite with Serbia? Why not unite with Japan?

By the way: Kosovo still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

By the way, when are albanians going to discuss issues like normal people instead of always making threats? Your not dealing with fellow albanian mobsters so cut that neanderthal behaviour once and for all.
(MikeC, 13 March 2011 17:08)

MikeC is not albanians that are not normal people is you. That is why normal to you is somebody unnormal.
As for neanderthal behaviour it was serbia in 1990's in full gear.

BB

pre 13 godina

It is actually better for Serbia if albanians push harder for unification with Albania. That will make it impossible for the west to look the other way and they will be forced to admit the whole "Kosova" experiment has failed.

Gojko

pre 13 godina

The truth is that Albania does not want to unite with Kosovo Albanians. Nobody wants to deal with an economic money pit especially in these economic conditions.

Don't be surprised if Albania comes out and says they respect Kosovo's "integrity".

Adriaan

pre 13 godina

I rather have unity than independence. If there was a referendum I would vote yes to united kosovo and albania and no to independence. And Serbia can have Mitrovica North and we have Kosovo in Albania.

truthiness

pre 13 godina

There are only 4 realistic final scenarios

1- Kosovo gains International Recognition by all parties

2. Kosovo DOESNT recieve International recognition and becomes a prolonged economic and political void

3. Kosovo doesnt recieve the desired international status and is therfore moving towrds a union with its kin in Albania to protect its interests.

4. Kosovs decides via democratic means to rejoin Serbia.

Blind Freddy can see that option 1 is not a reality just yet ( without a comprimise on the Northern part of Kosovoa at least)

Option 2 - Thats the immediate scenario - short to medium term

Option 3 - that is more than likely to be a final scenario - if one cannot move forward on their own , given the option to join with their "family" or forced to live witgh their enemy - the answer is obvious

Option 4 - when pigs fly backwards.Any foolish notions or thinking that somehow Kosovo will "re intergrate" or somehow willingly agree to Serbian Sovereignty is about as fanciful as the idea of 'greater serbia' . It is not a notion that is not based on any reality or fact and will not happen.

How anybody thinks that this option will gain domestic Kosovo legitmacy when there are far far better options available illustrates the naivete some people live in.

These talks will be dramatic , with alot of theatrics to please the audience - but in the end they will fail - Kosovo is gone - deal with it.

JC.Stennis

pre 13 godina

Unification is only a matter of time. The "border" is anyway just for the exterior consumption. Question is only how fast it will come. If Serbia insist in the North of Kosovo, then it will come fast, together with the Presovo valley. If not soon, then in 20-30 years when the size of the Albanian population as doubled while the number of the surrounding neighbors shrinks. Then the cascade will come, uniting other Albanian parts with the center state.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Hey, good idea and I suggest frisco the great as the president of this unified region and Ivan as his VP, but competition will be fierce in the k troll camp for this position but for the 1 job no chance to beat the hatry comments of small size t shirt frisco God...

Mike

pre 13 godina

Ah yes, if at first you don't get what you want, or what the international community promised you, shoot for a strategy that has failed for every other state in Europe since 1878. Great thinking on Demaci's part. Actually, it's funny how Albanians don't even believe their own propaganda on multi-ethnic co-existence in Europe's "Youngest State". The slightest obstacle put forth by Belgrade (apparently against Washington, London, Paris, and Berlin), or the slightest notion that someone in Pristina is actually going to have to work hard at getting the K-Serbs to cooperate, and suddenly people start chanting Shqiperia Etnike.

Jim

pre 13 godina

I really don't know why KAs don't push harder for this. It really is in fact the best solution. Kosovo is not a viable state as it is. It would solve the recognition issue. Every state in the world recognises Albania, even Serbia. It then becomes a peaceful dispute between Belgrade and Tirana. Just let Serbia keep the North and be done with it.

MikeC

pre 13 godina

What is the difference to Serbs if Kosovo and Albania unite or if Kosovo just becomes independent? No difference what so ever. Same shit, different package. Serbs still won't have any rights and our churces and monasteries would continue to get raped by albanains.
By the way, when are albanians going to discuss issues like normal people instead of always making threats? Your not dealing with fellow albanian mobsters so cut that neanderthal behaviour once and for all.

Matt

pre 13 godina

“Kosovo was forced into the dialogue by the EU and the UN,” Demaci stressed.

Oh well... too bad.
That's life. You can't have it your way every time.
I seem to remember not too long ago that everyone on this site who supported k-albanian independence stressed how great and wonderful the EU was for standing up for an independent Kosovo against the evil serb empire. Now it's coming down to spoiled children throwing tantrums because they can't get a carte blanch for their every whim.
Dudes, grow up.
You think Georgia likes having two chunks of their territory truncated to Russia?
You think Tibetans want to love under China?
I am not asking you if it's fair; I am not asking you to like it... Just accept it as the will of the Powers that be shape your future "for the greater good" ;)

highduke

pre 13 godina

Demaci is MORE of a has-been that Silajdzic. Now he's trying to stir up controversy to raise his profile. The sad truth is that the UDI has NO CHANCE of succeding and Greater Albania has even less because your Masters have compromised you for more immediate interests in the Middle East. You are not Muslim enough for them, so the price you Albanians pay for playing all sides at the same time is having no real friends. At least RUS helped us after they took their own country back. You are alone.

MikeC

pre 13 godina

What is the difference to Serbs if Kosovo and Albania unite or if Kosovo just becomes independent? No difference what so ever. Same shit, different package. Serbs still won't have any rights and our churces and monasteries would continue to get raped by albanains.
By the way, when are albanians going to discuss issues like normal people instead of always making threats? Your not dealing with fellow albanian mobsters so cut that neanderthal behaviour once and for all.

Ron

pre 13 godina

If Kosovo is not an Albanian 'state' but a multi-ethnic one then why unite with Albania? Why not unite with Serbia? Why not unite with Japan?

By the way: Kosovo still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

BB

pre 13 godina

It is actually better for Serbia if albanians push harder for unification with Albania. That will make it impossible for the west to look the other way and they will be forced to admit the whole "Kosova" experiment has failed.

Matt

pre 13 godina

“Kosovo was forced into the dialogue by the EU and the UN,” Demaci stressed.

Oh well... too bad.
That's life. You can't have it your way every time.
I seem to remember not too long ago that everyone on this site who supported k-albanian independence stressed how great and wonderful the EU was for standing up for an independent Kosovo against the evil serb empire. Now it's coming down to spoiled children throwing tantrums because they can't get a carte blanch for their every whim.
Dudes, grow up.
You think Georgia likes having two chunks of their territory truncated to Russia?
You think Tibetans want to love under China?
I am not asking you if it's fair; I am not asking you to like it... Just accept it as the will of the Powers that be shape your future "for the greater good" ;)

Gojko

pre 13 godina

The truth is that Albania does not want to unite with Kosovo Albanians. Nobody wants to deal with an economic money pit especially in these economic conditions.

Don't be surprised if Albania comes out and says they respect Kosovo's "integrity".

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Hey, good idea and I suggest frisco the great as the president of this unified region and Ivan as his VP, but competition will be fierce in the k troll camp for this position but for the 1 job no chance to beat the hatry comments of small size t shirt frisco God...

The Truth Chicago

pre 13 godina

More Serbian false pride with regards to Serbs commenting that the "mighty Serbian Army" is going to invade Kosova if it unifies with Albania.

Really? Think again hot heads. The largest American military base is located in Kosova! Do you really think the Americans are going to mimic the Dutch during Srebernica and hand over the Kosovars to be slaughtered by pimps and criminals parading in Serbian uniforms? The USA will smash every single piece of the Serb army if they even attempted to send one rusty tank over the border. Also, if it unites with Albanina, Albania is a NATO member. An attack on Albania would be an attack on NATO.

The idea that people on these comment boards still invoke the military option for Serbia is insane! Once a person goes that far, no amount of logic can turn their thinking.

Happy dreaming Serberians. Go back to Mother Russia.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Demaci is MORE of a has-been that Silajdzic. Now he's trying to stir up controversy to raise his profile. The sad truth is that the UDI has NO CHANCE of succeding and Greater Albania has even less because your Masters have compromised you for more immediate interests in the Middle East. You are not Muslim enough for them, so the price you Albanians pay for playing all sides at the same time is having no real friends. At least RUS helped us after they took their own country back. You are alone.

sj

pre 13 godina

Any Albanian who thinks that there is even the slightest chance of Kosovo joining with Albania is so deluded that they need psychiatric treatment. Kosovo only exists because the west (US) wants a military base in the region and nothing more or less.
There is more of a chance of my great grandfather coming back from the dead than Kosovo joining with Albania proper and that’s guaranteed. No amount of democracy will make this happen and statements by the likes of Adem Demaci are only to bring attention to himself. The west will NEVER allow this to happen because it’s not in their interests – you see they don’t not want a large Islamic country in the centre of Europe.
If Kosovo was self sufficient and was able to stand on its own feet without foreign handouts then there might have been a chance for integration with Albania, but every fiber of the Kosovo Government’s administration is paid for by EU money. If this money was not made available then Kosovo would last about 1 week before collapsing into anarchy.
Why do you ask are these people coming out with these ludicrous statements now? Simply because they are sensing a slow sell out by the EU. With Libya looking more and more of returning to Gaddafi’s regime watch the sell out gather pace. Yes, some of the Albanian politicians are sensing a change in the EU’s stance and that is putting fear into them.

sj

pre 13 godina

Serbia is no more self-sufficient than Kosovo. If you lived in Serbia that would be painfully clear. Many people in Serbia are having a hard time surviving on their meager salaries or pensions, let alone those that are jobless. I'm sure any intelligent adult is aware of that. Please don't try to mislead us into buying your childish propaganda.
(Mark Rosen, 14 March 2011 04:57)

This is what you can classify as deluded beyond the realm of imagination. Not only is Serbia self sufficient, but it is the only part of the former Yugoslavia that is in that position.
Let’s look at the others:
Slovenia – tourism is its main source of income; no manufacturing or minerals or other resources to speak of. In fact if it was not for Austria, Slovenia would be teetering on the edge.
Croatia – broke and you now have demonstrations demanding the resignation of the current government resign and calling their politicians thieves.
BiH – a EU-sponsored basket case.
Montenegro and Macedonia – need I say anymore?
Now to Serbia, to compare Kosovo to this region is like comparing Chad, one of the poorest countries in Africa, to Sweden. Serbia has the natural resources such as minerals and ample water, large tracts of arable land and has the ability to borrow money. Why doesn’t Kosovo go to the IMF and do the same???????
What does Kosovo have again? NOTHING but 2 million Albanian mouths to feed. Every facet of Kosovo life comes from EU money. Kosovo makes nothing, it has been a bottonmless money pit form many decades - they do not earn money at all. However, I would be most interested to hear what industry you think Kosovo has now.
Yes, life is hard in Serbia, but let’s now look at the EU or more importantly the countries surrounding Serbia such as Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Czech, Slovakia, Poland, Baltic countries. They are in this so called EU and are no better off than Serbia.
I know what I am talking about, but I suggest that next time you do some more research before posting nonsense.

Mike

pre 13 godina

Ah yes, if at first you don't get what you want, or what the international community promised you, shoot for a strategy that has failed for every other state in Europe since 1878. Great thinking on Demaci's part. Actually, it's funny how Albanians don't even believe their own propaganda on multi-ethnic co-existence in Europe's "Youngest State". The slightest obstacle put forth by Belgrade (apparently against Washington, London, Paris, and Berlin), or the slightest notion that someone in Pristina is actually going to have to work hard at getting the K-Serbs to cooperate, and suddenly people start chanting Shqiperia Etnike.

MikeC

pre 13 godina

gjon fusha

Just by your explenation you have proven that I was right in my comment. Just one question: WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Either learn english or don't write at all.

Anonymous

pre 13 godina

You don't even know how much I wish Albania even attempts at trying to integrate Kosmet into it. I wish they would do that so the Serbian Army has an excuse to invade Kosovo and retake it. Serbia would have every right to move its army in since its sovereignty is being threatend by an outside force. Albania doesnt have the courage to try something stupid liek that becaus ethey knwo it would mean gameover. Why do you think that unification was not proposed by Albania or the Kosovo Albanians? Because they know that Serbia would move in and destroy them. Simple as that.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

# Until 1912 Kosova was an integral part of Albania, but occupied by Turks. Now step by step: first independence and then to join Albania.
(Bardhyl, 13 March 2011 20:17)
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What?

CG

pre 13 godina

(The Truth Chicago, 14 March 2011 15:42)

And here we go again,Albanians threatening,as always,with other peoples military power.
If you really think that the Americans indefenitely will be there fighting for and defending your thugs (especially after Fort Dix,Frankfurt shooting) you should better get your heads examined!
I agree with you that the option of military force to reintegrate our province into the constitutional framework of the Republic of Serbia at the moment doesn`t exist,but only for the moment!
The Americans will leave and the same day the Serbian army will be there,count on it,and there will be nobody defending and doing the dirty job for your terrorists!
As far as this initiative is concerned,what a joke:
Basically he is saying if you Serbs don`t agree to Kosovo independence we will integrate with Albania!
What this guy forgets is that they can unite,dissolve and declare what they want:
De jure(according to international law) Kosovo is still part of Serbia,so every move on his side to "unification" would be null and void,it would legally speaking make no difference from the current situation!
It is a clear sign that they are frustrated and the only way out for them is to dupe and force us into a recognition by building up a threat which doesn`t exist !

lids

pre 13 godina

He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..

CG

pre 13 godina

Demaci,you can declare it part of Mars for what I care.
The most important thing is that it is and will stay de jure Serbian:
the UN through UN1244 says so,the overwhelming majority of states think so and all other institutions (EU,NATO) are blocked for them!
I think this is a clear sign of Albanians getting frustrated and nervous,as if they de facto don`t have free travel etc.
The most important thing is that it is legally ours.

JC.Stennis

pre 13 godina

Unification is only a matter of time. The "border" is anyway just for the exterior consumption. Question is only how fast it will come. If Serbia insist in the North of Kosovo, then it will come fast, together with the Presovo valley. If not soon, then in 20-30 years when the size of the Albanian population as doubled while the number of the surrounding neighbors shrinks. Then the cascade will come, uniting other Albanian parts with the center state.

Bardhyl

pre 13 godina

Until 1912 Kosova was an integral part of Albania, but occupied by Turks. Now step by step: first independence and then to join Albania.

Repercussions

pre 13 godina

This is possibly the greatest idea the Albanians have ever come up with... EVER I say!

It would completely discredit the original 'idea' of poor little "Kosovanians" seeking their freedom from mean old Serbia and show what it really is, nothing but a land grab for an expansionist Albania.

The repercussions of which would be war... so do go on. You'd be doing Serbia a big favour.

John

pre 13 godina

Adem Demaci was imprisoned by Serbia for almost 3 decades...this is what the article conveniently fails to state.



Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 March 2011 18:01)

No. He was imprisoned by YUGOSLAVIA. He was released before the War in Slovenia started, and that was for Nationalism, which eventually broke Yugoslavia apart, and Stalinism, which killed more then Nazism.
Note also, that Serb troops didnt touch him in the 98-99 War

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Yes, yes, yes! So the chattering about "multhietnic and democratic Kosova" simply ends. There were nothing more than irredentistic idea of "Great Albania". Yes! Sudetenland 1938 - Kosovo 2008.

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

By the way, when are albanians going to discuss issues like normal people instead of always making threats? Your not dealing with fellow albanian mobsters so cut that neanderthal behaviour once and for all.
(MikeC, 13 March 2011 17:08)

MikeC is not albanians that are not normal people is you. That is why normal to you is somebody unnormal.
As for neanderthal behaviour it was serbia in 1990's in full gear.

ben

pre 13 godina

Independence was a compromise solution even for the peaceful Rugova.

The constitutional limitation of Kosova to join Albania was another further compromise and assurance for Russia and Serbia.

They still refuse to acknowledge what the entire civilized world knows now perfectly: Kosova wants to be self governed and above all doesn't want to have to do anything with Serbia.

If you still refuse and mine the progress of Kosova's affirmation in the international community then I see no reason why an Albanian Kosova should not join with Albania.

Personally I agree with you Serbs: Kosova is a fake state - as it's nothing more than an Albanian province: just as Laberia, Mati, Epiri/Cameria, Mirdita etc. It is the northern and largest Albanian province.

If Thaci wants’ to be a PM he must win the votes of Albanians and move is a.. in office in Tirana.

Nelli_Canada

pre 13 godina

If I were a Serb I'd take Mr.Demaci's words very seriously. This man spent almost 29 years in comunist prison. He's admired by all Albanians living in balkans and abroad.

Personally I'd like to see Kosova reunite with mother Albania on November 28, 2012, this way 6 million Albanians can celebrate Albania's 100th birthday and the reunification.

Jim

pre 13 godina

I really don't know why KAs don't push harder for this. It really is in fact the best solution. Kosovo is not a viable state as it is. It would solve the recognition issue. Every state in the world recognises Albania, even Serbia. It then becomes a peaceful dispute between Belgrade and Tirana. Just let Serbia keep the North and be done with it.

Mauro

pre 13 godina

I read so funny stories here... "Kosovo was part of Albania till 1912" ... but if Albania was born in 1912, where were they united ? it's funny that Albanian side claimed they wanted talks and now that talks have started, they say it's bad. Dudes, the music has slowly changed and in next future you will hear different symphonies, believe me !

ben

pre 13 godina

(The Truth Chicago, 14 March 2011 15:42)

“Thanks” truth Chicagio: you just proved the Serbian claims that we Albanians are cowards and need the US to babysit us.

Anonymous

pre 13 godina

@The Truth Chicago

You really dont know what your talking about. Just because Albania is a NATO member does not mean NATO will protect it after it invades another countrys territory and occupies it. NATO protects its members only when they are attacked, not when theyre attacking.And by the way Spain,Greece,Slovakia,Romania,and Cyprus are all NATO memebers and dont even recognize Kosovo as anything but a Serbian province. Do you really thik that they would allow NATO to intervene on behalf of Albania taking over a region that is legally apart of another country? You really have no idea what your talking about. And another thing, Medvedev and Putin are in power in Russia not the coward Yeltsin. Russia will never allow an unrighteous attack on its last ally west of Belarus. Serbia is strategically important to Russia and Russia would not allow anything to happen to it. Yeltsin was a coward in the 1990s and Russia was in shambles at that time. Russia today is a totally different story and Im sure the NATO would think twice before even thinking about attacking Serbia under Russian protection.

Adriaan

pre 13 godina

I rather have unity than independence. If there was a referendum I would vote yes to united kosovo and albania and no to independence. And Serbia can have Mitrovica North and we have Kosovo in Albania.

truthiness

pre 13 godina

There are only 4 realistic final scenarios

1- Kosovo gains International Recognition by all parties

2. Kosovo DOESNT recieve International recognition and becomes a prolonged economic and political void

3. Kosovo doesnt recieve the desired international status and is therfore moving towrds a union with its kin in Albania to protect its interests.

4. Kosovs decides via democratic means to rejoin Serbia.

Blind Freddy can see that option 1 is not a reality just yet ( without a comprimise on the Northern part of Kosovoa at least)

Option 2 - Thats the immediate scenario - short to medium term

Option 3 - that is more than likely to be a final scenario - if one cannot move forward on their own , given the option to join with their "family" or forced to live witgh their enemy - the answer is obvious

Option 4 - when pigs fly backwards.Any foolish notions or thinking that somehow Kosovo will "re intergrate" or somehow willingly agree to Serbian Sovereignty is about as fanciful as the idea of 'greater serbia' . It is not a notion that is not based on any reality or fact and will not happen.

How anybody thinks that this option will gain domestic Kosovo legitmacy when there are far far better options available illustrates the naivete some people live in.

These talks will be dramatic , with alot of theatrics to please the audience - but in the end they will fail - Kosovo is gone - deal with it.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

there it is again, the well known phenomenon of albanian phantasies... =)

there should be no doubt among the Albanians that there is no way they could "unite" with Albania...

not only would that be something that NATO could not allow without losing the tiny rest of credibility that they think to have,
no it would also make it possible to react in totally different ways for Serbia, and the World´s majority is backing international law.

that means, other countries could be asked for help, against such an aggressive act.
and keep in mind, this is not the nineties anymore.

no, this fool who is bragging around knows very well that he is talking nonsense.
it´s more likely that he is only carressing the sensitive k-albanian soul..
the reason for this behaviour could be interesting... =)

Aleks

pre 13 godina

Demaci forgot to mention FYROM. Why would he expressly exclude that if the unistas all include it? Is he afraid of angering someone or something??? What a coward and bsitter!

sj

pre 13 godina

(kujon, 14 March 2011 14:19)

You are correct when you say that Slovenia is better than Serbia and I certainly have no problems with that statement.
Slovenia did not suffer the after affects of the 1990s wars. It is well known in the international financial community that Slovenia would have lasted 6 weeks on its own after she broke up with Yugo, but Austria stepped in and thus guaranteed her currency.
Austria has supported Slovenia all this time and continues to do so even today.
Slovenia’s economy has not improved since the break up because it has a small population, little to no industry, no minerals, little other resources except for tourism as income. Without support Slovenia’s position has not changed since the day she proclaimed independence.
However, the one redeeming factor with the Slovenes is that they are an obedient people who do as they are told. Unlike what you see now in Croatia, the Slovenes were careful not to squander too much and that is why the EU continues to support that country. Slovenia was asked to sell or remove industry that was uneconomical to support and they did so i.e. Gorenje went to Serbia as has other industry.
On the other hand Serbia has suffered terribly, but has still managed to stand on its feet. This tells you which economies in that region have good foundations. Let the “Kosovars” try living off their own proceeds and see how long they survive.
In the past Slovenia was given special treatment by Tito because he wanted to keep it in Yugoslavia in that it gathered raw materials from Serbia then value added and sold on the international market. What was interesting Tito allowed the Slovenes to keep some of the profits to spend in that part. Croatia was the same as can be seen now. While Serbia carried the burden for all these so called countries. These are facts.

Mark Rosen

pre 13 godina

Any Albanian who thinks that there is even the slightest chance of Kosovo joining with Albania is so deluded that they need psychiatric treatment. Kosovo only exists because the west (US) wants a military base in the region and nothing more or less.
There is more of a chance of my great grandfather coming back from the dead than Kosovo joining with Albania proper and that’s guaranteed. No amount of democracy will make this happen and statements by the likes of Adem Demaci are only to bring attention to himself. The west will NEVER allow this to happen because it’s not in their interests – you see they don’t not want a large Islamic country in the centre of Europe.
If Kosovo was self sufficient and was able to stand on its own feet without foreign handouts then there might have been a chance for integration with Albania, but every fiber of the Kosovo Government’s administration is paid for by EU money. If this money was not made available then Kosovo would last about 1 week before collapsing into anarchy.
Why do you ask are these people coming out with these ludicrous statements now? Simply because they are sensing a slow sell out by the EU. With Libya looking more and more of returning to Gaddafi’s regime watch the sell out gather pace. Yes, some of the Albanian politicians are sensing a change in the EU’s stance and that is putting fear into them.
(sj, 13 March 2011 21:39)

sj,

Serbia is no more self-sufficient than Kosovo. If you lived in Serbia that would be painfully clear. Many people in Serbia are having a hard time surviving on their meager salaries or pensions, let alone those that are jobless. I'm sure any intelligent adult is aware of that. Please don't try to mislead us into buying your childish propaganda.

sj

pre 13 godina

These so-called "facts" lack supporting evidence. What Serbs are taught in their schools is just pitiful propaganda. The main reason the wars of the 1990's occurred is because Serbia, being the bully in the schoolyard, was attempting to shake down the other Republics and they, justly, refused to tolerate this thug-like behavior.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 March 2011 05:41)

Listen here Duke of Everything You See you have not the slightest idea what you are talking about. I DO NOT LIVE IN SERBIA!!!!!! I live in South East Asia and I have no idea what people are taught in Serbian schools, mate!
You statement shows that you do not have intellectual capacity to see the real picture of the situation and repeat the same mindless nonsense regurgitated by western media – in fact more like US media, they tend to cover a situation in puerile nonsense to lessen the confusion amongst its people. My statement is true whether you like it or not; ask any Slovenian if what I have said is false. Why don’t they hold a poll and asking the following question in both Slovenia and Croatia:
“Did you live better in the old Yugoslavia and would you turn the clock back if you could?”
Can you guess the answer? I know the answer.
For my amusement please explain why is Croatia going through this upheaval now? Has Slobodan Milosevic come back from the dead and causing trouble? I haven’t had a good laugh for a while so I’m looking forward to seeing your answer.

More Serbian false pride with regards to Serbs commenting that the "mighty Serbian Army" is going to invade Kosova if it unifies with Albania.

Really? Think again hot heads. The largest American military base is located in Kosova! Do you really think the Americans are going to mimic the Dutch during Srebernica and hand over the Kosovars to be slaughtered by pimps and criminals parading in Serbian uniforms? The USA will smash every single piece of the Serb army if they even attempted to send one rusty tank over the border. Also, if it unites with Albanina, Albania is a NATO member. An attack on Albania would be an attack on NATO.

The idea that people on these comment boards still invoke the military option for Serbia is insane! Once a person goes that far, no amount of logic can turn their thinking.


Yes I can see the venom in your response and you would love to see the US have another go at Serbia, but sadly for you this is not 1999 but 2011.
Your windbag of a country is about to reach screw-up no. 3, ha, ha, ha. First it was Iraq then Afghanistan and now Libya and you think it will start a war over your Albanians. Oh man you are living in pixy land or smoking something stronger than tobacco?

iliri

pre 13 godina

''If Kosovo is not an Albanian 'state' but a multi-ethnic one then why unite with Albania? Why not unite with Serbia? Why not unite with Japan? ''

You don't get it, do you? The reason why Kosovo can't join Albania is the North of mitrovica, in order to make serbs happy our Albanian comrades in Pristina changed the flag and proclaimed a multiethnic state, which can not change its borders anymore... eventually serbs there are unhappy, and serbia has practically annexed north of iber to make them happy, if belgrade does not give up north mitrovica and reckognise Kosovo as a state, there is nothing left to do but unite Albania...so it is up to belgrade, either they annex north of mitrovica and end up with a big albanian neighbour next to presevo valley...or accept Kosovo as an multiethnic state and keep the albanians divided in two states...either choise suits us well...we couldn't care less about north mitrovica...but we do care about presevo valley...

Jovan

pre 13 godina

K-albanians displaying their desperate aggressions.

Serbs being calm. with reason.


Serbia will prevail, just a question of time.


as for those unification-dreams: I´d personally love to see them make that mistake. it would be their last one.

Shock trooper in a stupor

pre 13 godina

That can happen only if NATO allows it. And I doubt they will. Nothing much to add to that.
Except the question will Albanian leaders, like the Serbian before, think they can have a final say against NATO will.
Only valiable chance for reunification of not only Kosovo and Serbia, but the entire region, can come not on basis of ethnicity or be done by the elites but only on the basis of class struggle and peoples liberation.

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..
(lids, 13 March 2011 22:03)

There are 10,000 ethnic greeks in albania, the rest of them (20,000) are greek orthodox albanians. that comes out to a fraction of 1 percent of the total population. thats it pal! anything else on the matter is vociferous propaganda.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

"Albanian Unification"

Not going to happen on the EU and American watch as Damaci is just fanning the flames between Serbs and Albanians.

If Albania attempted to do it even with tacit NATO support, it would ignite the Balkans again as Albanians in Presevo, FYROM and possibly Montenegro would start armed revolts.

Kosovo political leaders are just becoming more and more frustrated as they continue to be a EU protectorate and not even close to an independant country.

miri

pre 13 godina

The naivety of Serb posters leavs anyone speechless.

Kosova is 95% populated by Albanians.
The first question is: How can these readers, see it so impossible for Kosova to integrate with Albania, and on the other hand they see it so normal for Kosova to re-integrate back to Serbia. Mind you again, with an hostile 95% of population that want nothing to do with Serbia.

Second, the statement from Demaci is treated as a direct threat coming from Albanians. This is not a threat, and if will ever be accomplished, it will never involve force. Only the stupidest of the stupidest would think that Albania could or would use force to "anex" Kosova. Demaci is simply showing Serbia the other alternative to K-Independence. Sooner or later, Serbia and Kosova need to move forward and if Serbia stubbornly blocks this progress, other alternatives will be searched. Demaci's statements are intended to show Serb geniuses why K-Independence is a big compromise.

Third, nothing can be done without the go-ahead of NATO and Western powers. The Albanians know this better than anyone. However when that moment comes it will be Serbia's argument over Kosova's argument. Serbia's argument is that K is the Jerusalem of Serbia because it was serbian land 700 years ago. I doubt it will gain much sympathy with this kind of rhetoric. It's just common sense that if someone simply refuses everything, it will not be taken seriously. The moment that Serbia will face two lasting alternatives: K-independence, or Albanian integration we will see Serb politicians singing Kosova's anthem.

Finally, whoever has been in Albania for the past 10 years will notice that integration is just a matter of formality. K-albanians are very much a vital part of Albanian population in Albania and anywhere else. They participate in every aspect of society. Even in politics, they collaborate closely with Albanian authorities. When the question of Albanian integration will be raised, the relations of two countries will be so organic and transparent that the benefit of integration will overcome the problems.
Phrases like “Serbia will never do this and will never do that” are so old and pathetic. Serbia is just another Balkan country that cannot survive a single day without western loans.

sinisa

pre 13 godina

Wishful thinking at best.
If albania tried to swallow Kosovo, it would open a pandora's box in the balkans. The rs for then join with serbia, bosnia would erupt into civil war, macedonia would be fighting other Albanians who are trying to steal more land, Croatians in hercegovina would try to unite with croatia, crna gora would probably be divided, you get the picture. Europe would have their hand full because they would have to pick and choose sides very carefully. You get the picture. this would probably even cause WWIII, it would be a chain reaction and a total disaster, but if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't surprise me.

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

lids wrote: "He should be worried about...". You better read this article on Albin Kurti party expanded in Macedonia.http://english.albeu.com/albania-news/macedonia,-will-be-formed-the-movement--vetevendosje!-/31779/

iliri

pre 13 godina

''He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..
(lids, 13 March 2011 22:03) ''


We are so scared ... nice joke though. Seriously talking, greeks are the ones to worry. Chameria is Albanian land and they know it.

Serge

pre 13 godina

Unification? And where is the papa-gangster's approval? What about germans and french? do they agree? They fought for a greater Albania or for narco-country? Hmmmm...

beni

pre 13 godina

I read all the comments and yeas it's true that it was the will of US to free us from tyranny and true apartheid in the middle of EU in 20 century, but you are all forgetting a major country like UK whom are returning the mistakes made in London on 1912 when they separated Albanian territory in three countries originally Albanian territory was 102.000 square kilometers and today is 28.000 square kilometers you got the picture and also Turkey whom also had a will to free us from tyranny and apartheid. Turkey is one of the biggest and most important ally to EU and US and you know what in Turkey live more Albanians then they live in Kosova or Albania, there are more then 5 million, don’t forget that...

kujon

pre 13 godina

Sj---you had some goo dpoints but you lost me when you said Slovenija would be on the edge without Austria. They have always done fine and are doing fine. THey are better than Serbia is right now.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Wishful thinking at best.
If albania tried to swallow Kosovo, it would open a pandora's box in the balkans. The rs for then join with serbia, bosnia would erupt into civil war, macedonia would be fighting other Albanians who are trying to steal more land, Croatians in hercegovina would try to unite with croatia, crna gora would probably be divided, you get the picture. Europe would have their hand full because they would have to pick and choose sides very carefully. You get the picture. this would probably even cause WWIII, it would be a chain reaction and a total disaster, but if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't surprise me.
(sinisa, 15 March 2011 16:38) ''

I doubt wwIII would happen because of balkan wars, you serbs, overestimate yourselves, you think the eyes of the world are starring at the balkans...no body cares about the balkans mate, a lot has changed since 1914...Europe has become civilised, they don't care about balkan chauvinsit dreams anymore, and they don't intend another war, even if a wwIII happens, probaly Europe would be the only continent to stay out of it...also Albania will not swallow anything, we are practically united with Kosovo, people freely move between the two countries, from Tirana to Pristina it is only 3hours, and it will become less in the future every one can get an Albanian or a Kosovoan citizenship, people marry each other, Kosovo Armed Forces train in Albania, the highways are patroled by both our police, we use the same energy sources, our harbours and highways for Kosovo are tax free, practically we are one country, and the situation is better like this...we don't need to look BIG on the MAP, that would be foolish...now we are constructing highways connecting Tirana and Skopje for 1 hour and a half...we will even lend our harbours to FYROM, in case they don't resolve their name issue with greece, Durres will probably become the biggest port in adriatic...soon , fyromian trade will become dependent on us, and albanians in fyrom will have more rights, wether slavs like it or not, when it comes to business, politics goes off the window anyway...

We won our war, in 1999, so we are pleased with that, the only ones who think about another war in the balkans, are the serbs, for two reasons: 1) Serbs did not see war in their own territory, a few NATO bombings were enought to fighten them...2) Like the germans who wanted to undo versailles, serbs want to undo kumanovo treaty, and due to the fact that serbs did not see war in their own homes, they think war might be a cool idea...

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

In the past Slovenia was given special treatment by Tito because he wanted to keep it in Yugoslavia in that it gathered raw materials from Serbia then value added and sold on the international market. What was interesting Tito allowed the Slovenes to keep some of the profits to spend in that part. Croatia was the same as can be seen now. While Serbia carried the burden for all these so called countries. These are facts.
(sj, 14 March 2011 23:19)

sj,

These so-called "facts" lack supporting evidence. What Serbs are taught in their schools is just pitiful propaganda. The main reason the wars of the 1990's occurred is because Serbia, being the bully in the schoolyard, was attempting to shake down the other Republics and they, justly, refused to tolerate this thug-like behavior.

lili

pre 13 godina

chut!!!!!Don't tell serbs that by opposing so hard to kosovo independance and kkosovo european future,they are pushing hard for unification as the only solution for our nation! The more they isolate us,the more we see unification as THE solution, the more they push for our non adhesion to europe the more we will see unification as an evident solution for our nation!
As always ,you are the ones who are helping hard albanian nationalists in the Balkans!So just GO ON!

jstuxx

pre 11 godina

"...no body cares about the balkans mate, a lot has changed since 1914.. "

They sure cared about it in 1999 thats after 1914 in case you don't know.

If Kosovo can unify with Albania why not Northern Ireland with Ireland, why not Texas and California with Mexico, why not Austria with Germany, why not Romania with Moldova, why not Tranistria with Ukraine.

Remember 1999, had it not been for NATO every Albanian who thought they were so tough would have been forced out. NATO also thinks its tough but it has one weakness and that is it cannot do anything to countries which are either supported by Russia or China, or have nuclear warheads, why do you think there is no intervention in Syria or Iran.

What you just did is you admitted Serbs committed no genocide and all you wanted was more rights. In Macedonia you are less than a third of the population, other there thirds can do the same the Serbs did and no one cares about the Balkans right, no one wants another war right therefore no NATO intervention and you will taught a lesson just like the Chechens in Russia were.

And you do use the same energy sources the Bulgarian nuclear power plant, Bulgaria is practically united with Macedonia, Macedonians can get Bulgarian citizenship, free travel, same energy sources, Macedonian trade might also become dependent on Bulgarian or Greek ports. Plus Bulgaria has uranium as a resource, has a few nuclear warheads left from the Soviet Union and is Russia's strongest ally in the region.

gjon fusha

pre 13 godina

By the way, when are albanians going to discuss issues like normal people instead of always making threats? Your not dealing with fellow albanian mobsters so cut that neanderthal behaviour once and for all.
(MikeC, 13 March 2011 17:08)

MikeC is not albanians that are not normal people is you. That is why normal to you is somebody unnormal.
As for neanderthal behaviour it was serbia in 1990's in full gear.

Jim

pre 13 godina

I really don't know why KAs don't push harder for this. It really is in fact the best solution. Kosovo is not a viable state as it is. It would solve the recognition issue. Every state in the world recognises Albania, even Serbia. It then becomes a peaceful dispute between Belgrade and Tirana. Just let Serbia keep the North and be done with it.

Bardhyl

pre 13 godina

Until 1912 Kosova was an integral part of Albania, but occupied by Turks. Now step by step: first independence and then to join Albania.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Demaci is MORE of a has-been that Silajdzic. Now he's trying to stir up controversy to raise his profile. The sad truth is that the UDI has NO CHANCE of succeding and Greater Albania has even less because your Masters have compromised you for more immediate interests in the Middle East. You are not Muslim enough for them, so the price you Albanians pay for playing all sides at the same time is having no real friends. At least RUS helped us after they took their own country back. You are alone.

JC.Stennis

pre 13 godina

Unification is only a matter of time. The "border" is anyway just for the exterior consumption. Question is only how fast it will come. If Serbia insist in the North of Kosovo, then it will come fast, together with the Presovo valley. If not soon, then in 20-30 years when the size of the Albanian population as doubled while the number of the surrounding neighbors shrinks. Then the cascade will come, uniting other Albanian parts with the center state.

Adriaan

pre 13 godina

I rather have unity than independence. If there was a referendum I would vote yes to united kosovo and albania and no to independence. And Serbia can have Mitrovica North and we have Kosovo in Albania.

Ron

pre 13 godina

If Kosovo is not an Albanian 'state' but a multi-ethnic one then why unite with Albania? Why not unite with Serbia? Why not unite with Japan?

By the way: Kosovo still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

The Truth Chicago

pre 13 godina

More Serbian false pride with regards to Serbs commenting that the "mighty Serbian Army" is going to invade Kosova if it unifies with Albania.

Really? Think again hot heads. The largest American military base is located in Kosova! Do you really think the Americans are going to mimic the Dutch during Srebernica and hand over the Kosovars to be slaughtered by pimps and criminals parading in Serbian uniforms? The USA will smash every single piece of the Serb army if they even attempted to send one rusty tank over the border. Also, if it unites with Albanina, Albania is a NATO member. An attack on Albania would be an attack on NATO.

The idea that people on these comment boards still invoke the military option for Serbia is insane! Once a person goes that far, no amount of logic can turn their thinking.

Happy dreaming Serberians. Go back to Mother Russia.

CG

pre 13 godina

(The Truth Chicago, 14 March 2011 15:42)

And here we go again,Albanians threatening,as always,with other peoples military power.
If you really think that the Americans indefenitely will be there fighting for and defending your thugs (especially after Fort Dix,Frankfurt shooting) you should better get your heads examined!
I agree with you that the option of military force to reintegrate our province into the constitutional framework of the Republic of Serbia at the moment doesn`t exist,but only for the moment!
The Americans will leave and the same day the Serbian army will be there,count on it,and there will be nobody defending and doing the dirty job for your terrorists!
As far as this initiative is concerned,what a joke:
Basically he is saying if you Serbs don`t agree to Kosovo independence we will integrate with Albania!
What this guy forgets is that they can unite,dissolve and declare what they want:
De jure(according to international law) Kosovo is still part of Serbia,so every move on his side to "unification" would be null and void,it would legally speaking make no difference from the current situation!
It is a clear sign that they are frustrated and the only way out for them is to dupe and force us into a recognition by building up a threat which doesn`t exist !

MikeC

pre 13 godina

What is the difference to Serbs if Kosovo and Albania unite or if Kosovo just becomes independent? No difference what so ever. Same shit, different package. Serbs still won't have any rights and our churces and monasteries would continue to get raped by albanains.
By the way, when are albanians going to discuss issues like normal people instead of always making threats? Your not dealing with fellow albanian mobsters so cut that neanderthal behaviour once and for all.

truthiness

pre 13 godina

There are only 4 realistic final scenarios

1- Kosovo gains International Recognition by all parties

2. Kosovo DOESNT recieve International recognition and becomes a prolonged economic and political void

3. Kosovo doesnt recieve the desired international status and is therfore moving towrds a union with its kin in Albania to protect its interests.

4. Kosovs decides via democratic means to rejoin Serbia.

Blind Freddy can see that option 1 is not a reality just yet ( without a comprimise on the Northern part of Kosovoa at least)

Option 2 - Thats the immediate scenario - short to medium term

Option 3 - that is more than likely to be a final scenario - if one cannot move forward on their own , given the option to join with their "family" or forced to live witgh their enemy - the answer is obvious

Option 4 - when pigs fly backwards.Any foolish notions or thinking that somehow Kosovo will "re intergrate" or somehow willingly agree to Serbian Sovereignty is about as fanciful as the idea of 'greater serbia' . It is not a notion that is not based on any reality or fact and will not happen.

How anybody thinks that this option will gain domestic Kosovo legitmacy when there are far far better options available illustrates the naivete some people live in.

These talks will be dramatic , with alot of theatrics to please the audience - but in the end they will fail - Kosovo is gone - deal with it.

miri

pre 13 godina

The naivety of Serb posters leavs anyone speechless.

Kosova is 95% populated by Albanians.
The first question is: How can these readers, see it so impossible for Kosova to integrate with Albania, and on the other hand they see it so normal for Kosova to re-integrate back to Serbia. Mind you again, with an hostile 95% of population that want nothing to do with Serbia.

Second, the statement from Demaci is treated as a direct threat coming from Albanians. This is not a threat, and if will ever be accomplished, it will never involve force. Only the stupidest of the stupidest would think that Albania could or would use force to "anex" Kosova. Demaci is simply showing Serbia the other alternative to K-Independence. Sooner or later, Serbia and Kosova need to move forward and if Serbia stubbornly blocks this progress, other alternatives will be searched. Demaci's statements are intended to show Serb geniuses why K-Independence is a big compromise.

Third, nothing can be done without the go-ahead of NATO and Western powers. The Albanians know this better than anyone. However when that moment comes it will be Serbia's argument over Kosova's argument. Serbia's argument is that K is the Jerusalem of Serbia because it was serbian land 700 years ago. I doubt it will gain much sympathy with this kind of rhetoric. It's just common sense that if someone simply refuses everything, it will not be taken seriously. The moment that Serbia will face two lasting alternatives: K-independence, or Albanian integration we will see Serb politicians singing Kosova's anthem.

Finally, whoever has been in Albania for the past 10 years will notice that integration is just a matter of formality. K-albanians are very much a vital part of Albanian population in Albania and anywhere else. They participate in every aspect of society. Even in politics, they collaborate closely with Albanian authorities. When the question of Albanian integration will be raised, the relations of two countries will be so organic and transparent that the benefit of integration will overcome the problems.
Phrases like “Serbia will never do this and will never do that” are so old and pathetic. Serbia is just another Balkan country that cannot survive a single day without western loans.

Matt

pre 13 godina

“Kosovo was forced into the dialogue by the EU and the UN,” Demaci stressed.

Oh well... too bad.
That's life. You can't have it your way every time.
I seem to remember not too long ago that everyone on this site who supported k-albanian independence stressed how great and wonderful the EU was for standing up for an independent Kosovo against the evil serb empire. Now it's coming down to spoiled children throwing tantrums because they can't get a carte blanch for their every whim.
Dudes, grow up.
You think Georgia likes having two chunks of their territory truncated to Russia?
You think Tibetans want to love under China?
I am not asking you if it's fair; I am not asking you to like it... Just accept it as the will of the Powers that be shape your future "for the greater good" ;)

Nelli_Canada

pre 13 godina

If I were a Serb I'd take Mr.Demaci's words very seriously. This man spent almost 29 years in comunist prison. He's admired by all Albanians living in balkans and abroad.

Personally I'd like to see Kosova reunite with mother Albania on November 28, 2012, this way 6 million Albanians can celebrate Albania's 100th birthday and the reunification.

lids

pre 13 godina

He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..

ben

pre 13 godina

Independence was a compromise solution even for the peaceful Rugova.

The constitutional limitation of Kosova to join Albania was another further compromise and assurance for Russia and Serbia.

They still refuse to acknowledge what the entire civilized world knows now perfectly: Kosova wants to be self governed and above all doesn't want to have to do anything with Serbia.

If you still refuse and mine the progress of Kosova's affirmation in the international community then I see no reason why an Albanian Kosova should not join with Albania.

Personally I agree with you Serbs: Kosova is a fake state - as it's nothing more than an Albanian province: just as Laberia, Mati, Epiri/Cameria, Mirdita etc. It is the northern and largest Albanian province.

If Thaci wants’ to be a PM he must win the votes of Albanians and move is a.. in office in Tirana.

Mark Rosen

pre 13 godina

Any Albanian who thinks that there is even the slightest chance of Kosovo joining with Albania is so deluded that they need psychiatric treatment. Kosovo only exists because the west (US) wants a military base in the region and nothing more or less.
There is more of a chance of my great grandfather coming back from the dead than Kosovo joining with Albania proper and that’s guaranteed. No amount of democracy will make this happen and statements by the likes of Adem Demaci are only to bring attention to himself. The west will NEVER allow this to happen because it’s not in their interests – you see they don’t not want a large Islamic country in the centre of Europe.
If Kosovo was self sufficient and was able to stand on its own feet without foreign handouts then there might have been a chance for integration with Albania, but every fiber of the Kosovo Government’s administration is paid for by EU money. If this money was not made available then Kosovo would last about 1 week before collapsing into anarchy.
Why do you ask are these people coming out with these ludicrous statements now? Simply because they are sensing a slow sell out by the EU. With Libya looking more and more of returning to Gaddafi’s regime watch the sell out gather pace. Yes, some of the Albanian politicians are sensing a change in the EU’s stance and that is putting fear into them.
(sj, 13 March 2011 21:39)

sj,

Serbia is no more self-sufficient than Kosovo. If you lived in Serbia that would be painfully clear. Many people in Serbia are having a hard time surviving on their meager salaries or pensions, let alone those that are jobless. I'm sure any intelligent adult is aware of that. Please don't try to mislead us into buying your childish propaganda.

MikeC

pre 13 godina

gjon fusha

Just by your explenation you have proven that I was right in my comment. Just one question: WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Either learn english or don't write at all.

sj

pre 13 godina

Any Albanian who thinks that there is even the slightest chance of Kosovo joining with Albania is so deluded that they need psychiatric treatment. Kosovo only exists because the west (US) wants a military base in the region and nothing more or less.
There is more of a chance of my great grandfather coming back from the dead than Kosovo joining with Albania proper and that’s guaranteed. No amount of democracy will make this happen and statements by the likes of Adem Demaci are only to bring attention to himself. The west will NEVER allow this to happen because it’s not in their interests – you see they don’t not want a large Islamic country in the centre of Europe.
If Kosovo was self sufficient and was able to stand on its own feet without foreign handouts then there might have been a chance for integration with Albania, but every fiber of the Kosovo Government’s administration is paid for by EU money. If this money was not made available then Kosovo would last about 1 week before collapsing into anarchy.
Why do you ask are these people coming out with these ludicrous statements now? Simply because they are sensing a slow sell out by the EU. With Libya looking more and more of returning to Gaddafi’s regime watch the sell out gather pace. Yes, some of the Albanian politicians are sensing a change in the EU’s stance and that is putting fear into them.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

In the past Slovenia was given special treatment by Tito because he wanted to keep it in Yugoslavia in that it gathered raw materials from Serbia then value added and sold on the international market. What was interesting Tito allowed the Slovenes to keep some of the profits to spend in that part. Croatia was the same as can be seen now. While Serbia carried the burden for all these so called countries. These are facts.
(sj, 14 March 2011 23:19)

sj,

These so-called "facts" lack supporting evidence. What Serbs are taught in their schools is just pitiful propaganda. The main reason the wars of the 1990's occurred is because Serbia, being the bully in the schoolyard, was attempting to shake down the other Republics and they, justly, refused to tolerate this thug-like behavior.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Hey, good idea and I suggest frisco the great as the president of this unified region and Ivan as his VP, but competition will be fierce in the k troll camp for this position but for the 1 job no chance to beat the hatry comments of small size t shirt frisco God...

BB

pre 13 godina

It is actually better for Serbia if albanians push harder for unification with Albania. That will make it impossible for the west to look the other way and they will be forced to admit the whole "Kosova" experiment has failed.

Gojko

pre 13 godina

The truth is that Albania does not want to unite with Kosovo Albanians. Nobody wants to deal with an economic money pit especially in these economic conditions.

Don't be surprised if Albania comes out and says they respect Kosovo's "integrity".

Peggy

pre 13 godina

# Until 1912 Kosova was an integral part of Albania, but occupied by Turks. Now step by step: first independence and then to join Albania.
(Bardhyl, 13 March 2011 20:17)
===================

What?

Mauro

pre 13 godina

I read so funny stories here... "Kosovo was part of Albania till 1912" ... but if Albania was born in 1912, where were they united ? it's funny that Albanian side claimed they wanted talks and now that talks have started, they say it's bad. Dudes, the music has slowly changed and in next future you will hear different symphonies, believe me !

Mike

pre 13 godina

Ah yes, if at first you don't get what you want, or what the international community promised you, shoot for a strategy that has failed for every other state in Europe since 1878. Great thinking on Demaci's part. Actually, it's funny how Albanians don't even believe their own propaganda on multi-ethnic co-existence in Europe's "Youngest State". The slightest obstacle put forth by Belgrade (apparently against Washington, London, Paris, and Berlin), or the slightest notion that someone in Pristina is actually going to have to work hard at getting the K-Serbs to cooperate, and suddenly people start chanting Shqiperia Etnike.

Anonymous

pre 13 godina

You don't even know how much I wish Albania even attempts at trying to integrate Kosmet into it. I wish they would do that so the Serbian Army has an excuse to invade Kosovo and retake it. Serbia would have every right to move its army in since its sovereignty is being threatend by an outside force. Albania doesnt have the courage to try something stupid liek that becaus ethey knwo it would mean gameover. Why do you think that unification was not proposed by Albania or the Kosovo Albanians? Because they know that Serbia would move in and destroy them. Simple as that.

CG

pre 13 godina

Demaci,you can declare it part of Mars for what I care.
The most important thing is that it is and will stay de jure Serbian:
the UN through UN1244 says so,the overwhelming majority of states think so and all other institutions (EU,NATO) are blocked for them!
I think this is a clear sign of Albanians getting frustrated and nervous,as if they de facto don`t have free travel etc.
The most important thing is that it is legally ours.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

K-albanians displaying their desperate aggressions.

Serbs being calm. with reason.


Serbia will prevail, just a question of time.


as for those unification-dreams: I´d personally love to see them make that mistake. it would be their last one.

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

lids wrote: "He should be worried about...". You better read this article on Albin Kurti party expanded in Macedonia.http://english.albeu.com/albania-news/macedonia,-will-be-formed-the-movement--vetevendosje!-/31779/

Repercussions

pre 13 godina

This is possibly the greatest idea the Albanians have ever come up with... EVER I say!

It would completely discredit the original 'idea' of poor little "Kosovanians" seeking their freedom from mean old Serbia and show what it really is, nothing but a land grab for an expansionist Albania.

The repercussions of which would be war... so do go on. You'd be doing Serbia a big favour.

Grzegorz

pre 13 godina

Yes, yes, yes! So the chattering about "multhietnic and democratic Kosova" simply ends. There were nothing more than irredentistic idea of "Great Albania". Yes! Sudetenland 1938 - Kosovo 2008.

sj

pre 13 godina

Serbia is no more self-sufficient than Kosovo. If you lived in Serbia that would be painfully clear. Many people in Serbia are having a hard time surviving on their meager salaries or pensions, let alone those that are jobless. I'm sure any intelligent adult is aware of that. Please don't try to mislead us into buying your childish propaganda.
(Mark Rosen, 14 March 2011 04:57)

This is what you can classify as deluded beyond the realm of imagination. Not only is Serbia self sufficient, but it is the only part of the former Yugoslavia that is in that position.
Let’s look at the others:
Slovenia – tourism is its main source of income; no manufacturing or minerals or other resources to speak of. In fact if it was not for Austria, Slovenia would be teetering on the edge.
Croatia – broke and you now have demonstrations demanding the resignation of the current government resign and calling their politicians thieves.
BiH – a EU-sponsored basket case.
Montenegro and Macedonia – need I say anymore?
Now to Serbia, to compare Kosovo to this region is like comparing Chad, one of the poorest countries in Africa, to Sweden. Serbia has the natural resources such as minerals and ample water, large tracts of arable land and has the ability to borrow money. Why doesn’t Kosovo go to the IMF and do the same???????
What does Kosovo have again? NOTHING but 2 million Albanian mouths to feed. Every facet of Kosovo life comes from EU money. Kosovo makes nothing, it has been a bottonmless money pit form many decades - they do not earn money at all. However, I would be most interested to hear what industry you think Kosovo has now.
Yes, life is hard in Serbia, but let’s now look at the EU or more importantly the countries surrounding Serbia such as Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Czech, Slovakia, Poland, Baltic countries. They are in this so called EU and are no better off than Serbia.
I know what I am talking about, but I suggest that next time you do some more research before posting nonsense.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..
(lids, 13 March 2011 22:03) ''


We are so scared ... nice joke though. Seriously talking, greeks are the ones to worry. Chameria is Albanian land and they know it.

beni

pre 13 godina

I read all the comments and yeas it's true that it was the will of US to free us from tyranny and true apartheid in the middle of EU in 20 century, but you are all forgetting a major country like UK whom are returning the mistakes made in London on 1912 when they separated Albanian territory in three countries originally Albanian territory was 102.000 square kilometers and today is 28.000 square kilometers you got the picture and also Turkey whom also had a will to free us from tyranny and apartheid. Turkey is one of the biggest and most important ally to EU and US and you know what in Turkey live more Albanians then they live in Kosova or Albania, there are more then 5 million, don’t forget that...

kujon

pre 13 godina

Sj---you had some goo dpoints but you lost me when you said Slovenija would be on the edge without Austria. They have always done fine and are doing fine. THey are better than Serbia is right now.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''If Kosovo is not an Albanian 'state' but a multi-ethnic one then why unite with Albania? Why not unite with Serbia? Why not unite with Japan? ''

You don't get it, do you? The reason why Kosovo can't join Albania is the North of mitrovica, in order to make serbs happy our Albanian comrades in Pristina changed the flag and proclaimed a multiethnic state, which can not change its borders anymore... eventually serbs there are unhappy, and serbia has practically annexed north of iber to make them happy, if belgrade does not give up north mitrovica and reckognise Kosovo as a state, there is nothing left to do but unite Albania...so it is up to belgrade, either they annex north of mitrovica and end up with a big albanian neighbour next to presevo valley...or accept Kosovo as an multiethnic state and keep the albanians divided in two states...either choise suits us well...we couldn't care less about north mitrovica...but we do care about presevo valley...

Shock trooper in a stupor

pre 13 godina

That can happen only if NATO allows it. And I doubt they will. Nothing much to add to that.
Except the question will Albanian leaders, like the Serbian before, think they can have a final say against NATO will.
Only valiable chance for reunification of not only Kosovo and Serbia, but the entire region, can come not on basis of ethnicity or be done by the elites but only on the basis of class struggle and peoples liberation.

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

He should be worried about greeks taking over greek albanian teritory,and we would be more than happy to send him the last albanian where they came from..
(lids, 13 March 2011 22:03)

There are 10,000 ethnic greeks in albania, the rest of them (20,000) are greek orthodox albanians. that comes out to a fraction of 1 percent of the total population. thats it pal! anything else on the matter is vociferous propaganda.

John

pre 13 godina

Adem Demaci was imprisoned by Serbia for almost 3 decades...this is what the article conveniently fails to state.



Thanks,
(KOSO, 13 March 2011 18:01)

No. He was imprisoned by YUGOSLAVIA. He was released before the War in Slovenia started, and that was for Nationalism, which eventually broke Yugoslavia apart, and Stalinism, which killed more then Nazism.
Note also, that Serb troops didnt touch him in the 98-99 War

ben

pre 13 godina

(The Truth Chicago, 14 March 2011 15:42)

“Thanks” truth Chicagio: you just proved the Serbian claims that we Albanians are cowards and need the US to babysit us.

Anonymous

pre 13 godina

@The Truth Chicago

You really dont know what your talking about. Just because Albania is a NATO member does not mean NATO will protect it after it invades another countrys territory and occupies it. NATO protects its members only when they are attacked, not when theyre attacking.And by the way Spain,Greece,Slovakia,Romania,and Cyprus are all NATO memebers and dont even recognize Kosovo as anything but a Serbian province. Do you really thik that they would allow NATO to intervene on behalf of Albania taking over a region that is legally apart of another country? You really have no idea what your talking about. And another thing, Medvedev and Putin are in power in Russia not the coward Yeltsin. Russia will never allow an unrighteous attack on its last ally west of Belarus. Serbia is strategically important to Russia and Russia would not allow anything to happen to it. Yeltsin was a coward in the 1990s and Russia was in shambles at that time. Russia today is a totally different story and Im sure the NATO would think twice before even thinking about attacking Serbia under Russian protection.

Aleks

pre 13 godina

Demaci forgot to mention FYROM. Why would he expressly exclude that if the unistas all include it? Is he afraid of angering someone or something??? What a coward and bsitter!

sinisa

pre 13 godina

Wishful thinking at best.
If albania tried to swallow Kosovo, it would open a pandora's box in the balkans. The rs for then join with serbia, bosnia would erupt into civil war, macedonia would be fighting other Albanians who are trying to steal more land, Croatians in hercegovina would try to unite with croatia, crna gora would probably be divided, you get the picture. Europe would have their hand full because they would have to pick and choose sides very carefully. You get the picture. this would probably even cause WWIII, it would be a chain reaction and a total disaster, but if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't surprise me.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

there it is again, the well known phenomenon of albanian phantasies... =)

there should be no doubt among the Albanians that there is no way they could "unite" with Albania...

not only would that be something that NATO could not allow without losing the tiny rest of credibility that they think to have,
no it would also make it possible to react in totally different ways for Serbia, and the World´s majority is backing international law.

that means, other countries could be asked for help, against such an aggressive act.
and keep in mind, this is not the nineties anymore.

no, this fool who is bragging around knows very well that he is talking nonsense.
it´s more likely that he is only carressing the sensitive k-albanian soul..
the reason for this behaviour could be interesting... =)

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

"Albanian Unification"

Not going to happen on the EU and American watch as Damaci is just fanning the flames between Serbs and Albanians.

If Albania attempted to do it even with tacit NATO support, it would ignite the Balkans again as Albanians in Presevo, FYROM and possibly Montenegro would start armed revolts.

Kosovo political leaders are just becoming more and more frustrated as they continue to be a EU protectorate and not even close to an independant country.

sj

pre 13 godina

(kujon, 14 March 2011 14:19)

You are correct when you say that Slovenia is better than Serbia and I certainly have no problems with that statement.
Slovenia did not suffer the after affects of the 1990s wars. It is well known in the international financial community that Slovenia would have lasted 6 weeks on its own after she broke up with Yugo, but Austria stepped in and thus guaranteed her currency.
Austria has supported Slovenia all this time and continues to do so even today.
Slovenia’s economy has not improved since the break up because it has a small population, little to no industry, no minerals, little other resources except for tourism as income. Without support Slovenia’s position has not changed since the day she proclaimed independence.
However, the one redeeming factor with the Slovenes is that they are an obedient people who do as they are told. Unlike what you see now in Croatia, the Slovenes were careful not to squander too much and that is why the EU continues to support that country. Slovenia was asked to sell or remove industry that was uneconomical to support and they did so i.e. Gorenje went to Serbia as has other industry.
On the other hand Serbia has suffered terribly, but has still managed to stand on its feet. This tells you which economies in that region have good foundations. Let the “Kosovars” try living off their own proceeds and see how long they survive.
In the past Slovenia was given special treatment by Tito because he wanted to keep it in Yugoslavia in that it gathered raw materials from Serbia then value added and sold on the international market. What was interesting Tito allowed the Slovenes to keep some of the profits to spend in that part. Croatia was the same as can be seen now. While Serbia carried the burden for all these so called countries. These are facts.

Serge

pre 13 godina

Unification? And where is the papa-gangster's approval? What about germans and french? do they agree? They fought for a greater Albania or for narco-country? Hmmmm...

sj

pre 13 godina

These so-called "facts" lack supporting evidence. What Serbs are taught in their schools is just pitiful propaganda. The main reason the wars of the 1990's occurred is because Serbia, being the bully in the schoolyard, was attempting to shake down the other Republics and they, justly, refused to tolerate this thug-like behavior.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 March 2011 05:41)

Listen here Duke of Everything You See you have not the slightest idea what you are talking about. I DO NOT LIVE IN SERBIA!!!!!! I live in South East Asia and I have no idea what people are taught in Serbian schools, mate!
You statement shows that you do not have intellectual capacity to see the real picture of the situation and repeat the same mindless nonsense regurgitated by western media – in fact more like US media, they tend to cover a situation in puerile nonsense to lessen the confusion amongst its people. My statement is true whether you like it or not; ask any Slovenian if what I have said is false. Why don’t they hold a poll and asking the following question in both Slovenia and Croatia:
“Did you live better in the old Yugoslavia and would you turn the clock back if you could?”
Can you guess the answer? I know the answer.
For my amusement please explain why is Croatia going through this upheaval now? Has Slobodan Milosevic come back from the dead and causing trouble? I haven’t had a good laugh for a while so I’m looking forward to seeing your answer.

More Serbian false pride with regards to Serbs commenting that the "mighty Serbian Army" is going to invade Kosova if it unifies with Albania.

Really? Think again hot heads. The largest American military base is located in Kosova! Do you really think the Americans are going to mimic the Dutch during Srebernica and hand over the Kosovars to be slaughtered by pimps and criminals parading in Serbian uniforms? The USA will smash every single piece of the Serb army if they even attempted to send one rusty tank over the border. Also, if it unites with Albanina, Albania is a NATO member. An attack on Albania would be an attack on NATO.

The idea that people on these comment boards still invoke the military option for Serbia is insane! Once a person goes that far, no amount of logic can turn their thinking.


Yes I can see the venom in your response and you would love to see the US have another go at Serbia, but sadly for you this is not 1999 but 2011.
Your windbag of a country is about to reach screw-up no. 3, ha, ha, ha. First it was Iraq then Afghanistan and now Libya and you think it will start a war over your Albanians. Oh man you are living in pixy land or smoking something stronger than tobacco?

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Wishful thinking at best.
If albania tried to swallow Kosovo, it would open a pandora's box in the balkans. The rs for then join with serbia, bosnia would erupt into civil war, macedonia would be fighting other Albanians who are trying to steal more land, Croatians in hercegovina would try to unite with croatia, crna gora would probably be divided, you get the picture. Europe would have their hand full because they would have to pick and choose sides very carefully. You get the picture. this would probably even cause WWIII, it would be a chain reaction and a total disaster, but if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't surprise me.
(sinisa, 15 March 2011 16:38) ''

I doubt wwIII would happen because of balkan wars, you serbs, overestimate yourselves, you think the eyes of the world are starring at the balkans...no body cares about the balkans mate, a lot has changed since 1914...Europe has become civilised, they don't care about balkan chauvinsit dreams anymore, and they don't intend another war, even if a wwIII happens, probaly Europe would be the only continent to stay out of it...also Albania will not swallow anything, we are practically united with Kosovo, people freely move between the two countries, from Tirana to Pristina it is only 3hours, and it will become less in the future every one can get an Albanian or a Kosovoan citizenship, people marry each other, Kosovo Armed Forces train in Albania, the highways are patroled by both our police, we use the same energy sources, our harbours and highways for Kosovo are tax free, practically we are one country, and the situation is better like this...we don't need to look BIG on the MAP, that would be foolish...now we are constructing highways connecting Tirana and Skopje for 1 hour and a half...we will even lend our harbours to FYROM, in case they don't resolve their name issue with greece, Durres will probably become the biggest port in adriatic...soon , fyromian trade will become dependent on us, and albanians in fyrom will have more rights, wether slavs like it or not, when it comes to business, politics goes off the window anyway...

We won our war, in 1999, so we are pleased with that, the only ones who think about another war in the balkans, are the serbs, for two reasons: 1) Serbs did not see war in their own territory, a few NATO bombings were enought to fighten them...2) Like the germans who wanted to undo versailles, serbs want to undo kumanovo treaty, and due to the fact that serbs did not see war in their own homes, they think war might be a cool idea...

lili

pre 13 godina

chut!!!!!Don't tell serbs that by opposing so hard to kosovo independance and kkosovo european future,they are pushing hard for unification as the only solution for our nation! The more they isolate us,the more we see unification as THE solution, the more they push for our non adhesion to europe the more we will see unification as an evident solution for our nation!
As always ,you are the ones who are helping hard albanian nationalists in the Balkans!So just GO ON!

jstuxx

pre 11 godina

"...no body cares about the balkans mate, a lot has changed since 1914.. "

They sure cared about it in 1999 thats after 1914 in case you don't know.

If Kosovo can unify with Albania why not Northern Ireland with Ireland, why not Texas and California with Mexico, why not Austria with Germany, why not Romania with Moldova, why not Tranistria with Ukraine.

Remember 1999, had it not been for NATO every Albanian who thought they were so tough would have been forced out. NATO also thinks its tough but it has one weakness and that is it cannot do anything to countries which are either supported by Russia or China, or have nuclear warheads, why do you think there is no intervention in Syria or Iran.

What you just did is you admitted Serbs committed no genocide and all you wanted was more rights. In Macedonia you are less than a third of the population, other there thirds can do the same the Serbs did and no one cares about the Balkans right, no one wants another war right therefore no NATO intervention and you will taught a lesson just like the Chechens in Russia were.

And you do use the same energy sources the Bulgarian nuclear power plant, Bulgaria is practically united with Macedonia, Macedonians can get Bulgarian citizenship, free travel, same energy sources, Macedonian trade might also become dependent on Bulgarian or Greek ports. Plus Bulgaria has uranium as a resource, has a few nuclear warheads left from the Soviet Union and is Russia's strongest ally in the region.