"Three main topics" in Belgrade-Priština talks

Very smart idea to call it "Belgrade-Pristina talks": It avoids to address the problem how Kosovo has to be represented :)

The UN mission in Kosovo will not take part in the talks, but it will be invited when needed.

wow, I remember reading several comments from different posters that UNMIK will speak on behalf of Kosova. But, I have said it many times that UNMIK is in a trash bin.
This dialogue will be held between two countries as equals. Time will tell, though.

Yes top, they will be represented by the names of their capitals.

Kosovo's = Pristina
Serbia's = Belgrade

Whether you know it or not both parties are countries, and the talks will be between both countries. If that wasn't the case why is Serbia speaking with Kosovan Government officials and not an organization such as EULEX, KFOR (shrinking by the day), unmik (less than 80 people remaining), etc?




Thanks,

That should cover the first 25 years of talks.

Three issues for discussion, and only one of them truly important: The restoration of the rule of law.

How about scrapping the other two and introducing two replacement topics: The protection of the Orthodox faith and its representatives, properties, and followers in Kosovo; and the return of Kosovo to Serbian rule, with the rapid ejection of Thaci and his cronies, along with all the pro-albanian traitors that illegally declared sovereign Serbian territory 'independent'.

Top, you are right. I only hope that the mayors of Prishtina and Belgrade won't show up in Brussels by mistake.

Very smart idea to call it "Belgrade-Pristina talks": It avoids to address the problem how Kosovo has to be represented :)
(Top, 7 March 2011 17:02)
True, the EU can claim neutrality on the starus issue, Kosovo will claim it is a meeting on equal levels between the 2, and Serbia will claim it is not a meeting between 2 states.

And no one is wrong, technically.

The only good thing of these talks is a free of charge training for diplomats from both sides. Kosovo team will learn how to make diplomacy needed for any future negotiation and for the Serbian team it will be a good chance to understand and respect the international rules and majority decisions needed for Serbian EU NATO orientation. And I hope these negotiations will show the value of one foreign policy of EU if there is one. I am glad that no Russian tricks will be allowed to interfere. The result should be a win-win situation independetly if Vuk or other Serbian "patriots" will not be really happy. Good Luck

(Kosova-USA, 7 March 2011 16:05)
Not it’s not between two countries but between Pristina and Belgrade. I can remember the Albanians telling the world there will be no talks at all. It’s called direct talks between two parties and that is the reason for not having UMNIK at the table.
In between delivering pizzas even Albanians living in the US would have learnt something about diplomacy, but then again maybe not. Time will tell, but in the meantime just for the edification of Serbs please explain how an independent Kosovo is going to survive on its own.
This should be amusing to read.

(Tymi, 7 March 2011 19:20)
This comment shows the lack of understanding in negotiations at this level and what is required here. If you see this as a training ground for “your diplomats” then you’re in for an interesting time because this is not the place to train anything because it’s the real thing.
I hate to tell you but the Russians are there as they have a great interest in that region – they just are not blowing their trumpets, that all.

(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:21)
Is there an Albanian with any understanding out there or do we have to constantly put up with this drivel?
The Belgrade Government holds direct talks with Novi Sad on various matters so why would it not do the same with Pristina?
Now as all UMNIK, KFOR and EULEX are shrinking in size because of budget cuts and other more urgent priorities require their attention, tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? Just mention a few industries in Kosovo besides drug running.

It avoids to address the problem how Kosovo has to be represented :)
(Top, 7 March 2011 17:02)

Oh i see.Another serbian victory.How is Serbia represented?

Yes the rule of law is the most important topic. The Chair, Mr Cooper, is one of the inventors of the "failed state" concept, he must explain how a failed state like Kosovo, that never can and will be a real state, can engage in agreements effectively leading to the establishment of the rule of law. Paradoxes enough, and Serbia has a lot to offer for real but can "failed states" recognize such a thing?

This is a talk between the Central government (Belgrade) and it's Autonomous province in the south (Kosovo).

Kosovo is not a state, Kosovo is Serbia

(KOSO, 8 March 2011 01:02)

Yes it’s always cited by, guess who, the US. Wow what are surprise!!!!
The financial issues are my area of expertise so I know a little bit about that area. The EU is running out of MONEY – you know that stuff that feeds your Albanians in Kosovo and pay for everything.
Now the second question is how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? Just mention a few industries in Kosovo besides drug running. Unfortunately even your State Department has name Kosovo as a major route for drugs to Europe.

The Belgrade Government holds direct talks with Novi Sad on various matters so why would it not do the same with Pristina?
(sj, 7 March 2011)

I know Tirana and Ndroq hold yearly talks in Geneva but I am just curious where in Brussels, or any other Euro capital, do they usually hold the talks between Belgrade and Novi Sad?

Now as all UMNIK, KFOR and EULEX are shrinking in size because of budget cuts and other more urgent priorities require their attention, tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? Just mention a few industries in Kosovo besides drug running.
(sj, 7 March 2011 22:16)

Kosovo's independence is always cited as a stabilizing factor for the Balkans and as the reason for the transfer of competencies.

Notice how our discussions vary on two different variables, yours being conspiracy theories, mine on actual facts.


Thanks,

The sad fact is that neither are from Belgrade or Pristina, bloody peasants.

Leka

(KOSO, 9 March 2011 01:53)
I work in a specific area that allows me access to real levels of debt in the case of Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, BiH, Macedonia and Montenegro owe and I know exactly how Kosovo survives –. I know exactly the amount of US debt, in fact State by State and the projected debt of that country, including Sate by State, up to 2030 – Oh, this is not the BS stuff your media feeds you either, but the real debt. That’s how I know all about Kosovo.
However, I am interested to know from your perspective how Kosovo survives if it’s not from EU aid. I am seriously interested to know what exactly does Kosovo export to earn income.

you can have all the dialogue you want,you can have even agrements during these dialogue but what is their value and how much are they supported on the ground is the only thing that matters!

Start with the missing people.

(Zoti, 8 March 2011 17:51)

Read up an you’ll see that where there are major disputes then it’s generally held in a third country – it’s called neutral territory so the either side has no psychological advantage.

Read up an you’ll see that where there are major disputes then it’s generally held in a third country – it’s called neutral territory so the either side has no psychological advantage.
(sj, 8 March 2011)

I wasn't doubting the majorness of the dispute I was just curious where BG and NS hold their talks since you implied in your post that NS is tantamount to Prishtina.

(sj, 8 March 2011 11:49)

If you could show some proof / citation of Kosovars living off of EU aid, that would be great.

I bet if you look at the loans for the last decade our 1.2bn promised at the donor conference will be dwarfed by Serbia's loans in the last few years.



Thanks,

The UN mission in Kosovo will not take part in the talks, but it will be invited when needed.

wow, I remember reading several comments from different posters that UNMIK will speak on behalf of Kosova. But, I have said it many times that UNMIK is in a trash bin.
This dialogue will be held between two countries as equals. Time will tell, though.

Three issues for discussion, and only one of them truly important: The restoration of the rule of law.

How about scrapping the other two and introducing two replacement topics: The protection of the Orthodox faith and its representatives, properties, and followers in Kosovo; and the return of Kosovo to Serbian rule, with the rapid ejection of Thaci and his cronies, along with all the pro-albanian traitors that illegally declared sovereign Serbian territory 'independent'.

Yes top, they will be represented by the names of their capitals.

Kosovo's = Pristina
Serbia's = Belgrade

Whether you know it or not both parties are countries, and the talks will be between both countries. If that wasn't the case why is Serbia speaking with Kosovan Government officials and not an organization such as EULEX, KFOR (shrinking by the day), unmik (less than 80 people remaining), etc?




Thanks,

It avoids to address the problem how Kosovo has to be represented :)
(Top, 7 March 2011 17:02)

Oh i see.Another serbian victory.How is Serbia represented?

(Kosova-USA, 7 March 2011 16:05)
Not it’s not between two countries but between Pristina and Belgrade. I can remember the Albanians telling the world there will be no talks at all. It’s called direct talks between two parties and that is the reason for not having UMNIK at the table.
In between delivering pizzas even Albanians living in the US would have learnt something about diplomacy, but then again maybe not. Time will tell, but in the meantime just for the edification of Serbs please explain how an independent Kosovo is going to survive on its own.
This should be amusing to read.

(Tymi, 7 March 2011 19:20)
This comment shows the lack of understanding in negotiations at this level and what is required here. If you see this as a training ground for “your diplomats” then you’re in for an interesting time because this is not the place to train anything because it’s the real thing.
I hate to tell you but the Russians are there as they have a great interest in that region – they just are not blowing their trumpets, that all.

(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:21)
Is there an Albanian with any understanding out there or do we have to constantly put up with this drivel?
The Belgrade Government holds direct talks with Novi Sad on various matters so why would it not do the same with Pristina?
Now as all UMNIK, KFOR and EULEX are shrinking in size because of budget cuts and other more urgent priorities require their attention, tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? Just mention a few industries in Kosovo besides drug running.

Very smart idea to call it "Belgrade-Pristina talks": It avoids to address the problem how Kosovo has to be represented :)

Yes the rule of law is the most important topic. The Chair, Mr Cooper, is one of the inventors of the "failed state" concept, he must explain how a failed state like Kosovo, that never can and will be a real state, can engage in agreements effectively leading to the establishment of the rule of law. Paradoxes enough, and Serbia has a lot to offer for real but can "failed states" recognize such a thing?

The only good thing of these talks is a free of charge training for diplomats from both sides. Kosovo team will learn how to make diplomacy needed for any future negotiation and for the Serbian team it will be a good chance to understand and respect the international rules and majority decisions needed for Serbian EU NATO orientation. And I hope these negotiations will show the value of one foreign policy of EU if there is one. I am glad that no Russian tricks will be allowed to interfere. The result should be a win-win situation independetly if Vuk or other Serbian "patriots" will not be really happy. Good Luck

This is a talk between the Central government (Belgrade) and it's Autonomous province in the south (Kosovo).

Kosovo is not a state, Kosovo is Serbia

Very smart idea to call it "Belgrade-Pristina talks": It avoids to address the problem how Kosovo has to be represented :)
(Top, 7 March 2011 17:02)
True, the EU can claim neutrality on the starus issue, Kosovo will claim it is a meeting on equal levels between the 2, and Serbia will claim it is not a meeting between 2 states.

And no one is wrong, technically.

Top, you are right. I only hope that the mayors of Prishtina and Belgrade won't show up in Brussels by mistake.

Now as all UMNIK, KFOR and EULEX are shrinking in size because of budget cuts and other more urgent priorities require their attention, tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? Just mention a few industries in Kosovo besides drug running.
(sj, 7 March 2011 22:16)

Kosovo's independence is always cited as a stabilizing factor for the Balkans and as the reason for the transfer of competencies.

Notice how our discussions vary on two different variables, yours being conspiracy theories, mine on actual facts.


Thanks,

you can have all the dialogue you want,you can have even agrements during these dialogue but what is their value and how much are they supported on the ground is the only thing that matters!

(KOSO, 8 March 2011 01:02)

Yes it’s always cited by, guess who, the US. Wow what are surprise!!!!
The financial issues are my area of expertise so I know a little bit about that area. The EU is running out of MONEY – you know that stuff that feeds your Albanians in Kosovo and pay for everything.
Now the second question is how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? Just mention a few industries in Kosovo besides drug running. Unfortunately even your State Department has name Kosovo as a major route for drugs to Europe.

(sj, 8 March 2011 11:49)

If you could show some proof / citation of Kosovars living off of EU aid, that would be great.

I bet if you look at the loans for the last decade our 1.2bn promised at the donor conference will be dwarfed by Serbia's loans in the last few years.



Thanks,

That should cover the first 25 years of talks.

The sad fact is that neither are from Belgrade or Pristina, bloody peasants.

Leka

The Belgrade Government holds direct talks with Novi Sad on various matters so why would it not do the same with Pristina?
(sj, 7 March 2011)

I know Tirana and Ndroq hold yearly talks in Geneva but I am just curious where in Brussels, or any other Euro capital, do they usually hold the talks between Belgrade and Novi Sad?

Start with the missing people.

(Zoti, 8 March 2011 17:51)

Read up an you’ll see that where there are major disputes then it’s generally held in a third country – it’s called neutral territory so the either side has no psychological advantage.

Read up an you’ll see that where there are major disputes then it’s generally held in a third country – it’s called neutral territory so the either side has no psychological advantage.
(sj, 8 March 2011)

I wasn't doubting the majorness of the dispute I was just curious where BG and NS hold their talks since you implied in your post that NS is tantamount to Prishtina.

(KOSO, 9 March 2011 01:53)
I work in a specific area that allows me access to real levels of debt in the case of Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, BiH, Macedonia and Montenegro owe and I know exactly how Kosovo survives –. I know exactly the amount of US debt, in fact State by State and the projected debt of that country, including Sate by State, up to 2030 – Oh, this is not the BS stuff your media feeds you either, but the real debt. That’s how I know all about Kosovo.
However, I am interested to know from your perspective how Kosovo survives if it’s not from EU aid. I am seriously interested to know what exactly does Kosovo export to earn income.