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Monday, 07.03.2011.

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Priština: Success of talks depends on desire to join EU

The Belgrade-Priština dialogue depends on the "commitment of the two countries" to the European perspective, says a Kosovo Albanian official.

Izvor: Tanjug

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pre 13 godina

"If you want to play this ridiculous game, what did the world's court ICJ tell you? Kosovo's independence is IN LINE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW. "
(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:03)

Another person that cannot read. The ICJ said: The DECLARATION of independence is NOT AGAINST international law. ot more, not less. But thank you, you are welcome!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

You're turn.
(Ian, UK, 8 March 2011 01:31)

That should say "Your turn". Little grammar error, I had just come back from the pub when I wrote that.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

"The dialogue in Brussels will have an EU mediator, with the agenda which will have to be accepted by all three sides. This means that each side can have its wishes, but the forthcoming dialogue will have its rules and established principles," Tahiri underscored.

This says it all. Any proposal by Serbia as an agenda item must be approved by the Albanians, plain and simple.

lili

pre 13 godina

you may even imagine that the prishtina delegation will agree that kosovo is serbia!And then?
The matter is do albanians on the ground agree with that? No,as the Parlament session shows it...and absolutly no according the albanian public opinion...We are back to the "San eugidio discussions of the milosevic area" and we all do know how it ended!

miri

pre 13 godina

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.
(JohnBoy, 7 March 2011 20:07)

The least you can do is to address us with our proper name, Albanians.

We are not Albos.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Duh, that's the whole point. The talks are designed for the albos to walk away, so Jeremic can re-introduce the udi condemnation resolution at the UN GA this fall. Vuk can simply say that the albos walked away and that is why they don't deserve recognition.

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.
(JohnBoy, 7 March 2011 20:07)

The EU-Serbia resolution passed by the UNGA called for "technical" negotiations not status negotiations. If Kosovo walks away it will be because Serbia was trying to negotiate something which the resolution didn't call for aka status negotiations. Also the UNGA is getting sick and tired of Serbia taking things to the UNGA regarding the same issue. Also with ICJ verdict stating that it wasn't illegal for Kosovo to UDI, no resolution will pass condemning it. You're turn.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

sj, you're confused. If something is in line with the law, that means it is LEGAL.

I think you don't understand the law of mutual exclusivity.




Thanks,

sj

pre 13 godina

(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:03)
Why not go back to the International Court and say “as you have concluded that our declaration of independence was not illegal, will you now declare that Kosovo is legally independent”.
Bet you all the money you have the US would shoot the first Albanian to try this on. So much for your international law!
(pss, 7 March 2011 18:49)
The EU wants to sell your Albanians out and that’s no secret because they can’t afford to keep paying for Kosovo, but let’s say Serbia recognizes an independent Kosovo, then will the persecuted Albanians promise NEVER to enter Serbia to look for work??? If I was persecuted, as some claim here, I wouldn’t not set foot into that country nor work for Serbs. I wonder how many say they will not set foot in Serbia.
Now for an update on the US, on the happy side unemployment is just under 9% and a fall in applications for social security, on the sad side its utter BS. They way they managed to show that even social security payments were falling was simple – they put in place new criteria which just did not count all that were receiving benefits.
The US also claims to have created 190 000 jobs last month, but they did not tell anyone that most of the new jobs wherein government and a large proportion were only temporary – hey why spoil a good story.
The reality is all of this comes on the back of the last 600 billion borrowed and printed to stimulate the economy, but some very well know economists are not too optimistic about the US economy improving before 2015 at best.
Just keep on printing and spending, but according to the hard line American the US can do that because God is on their side.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

"Thats more like. As I have always said, Kosovo will not negotiate in areas it doesn't want to aka status. These are technical negotiations, per the EU-Serbia resolution passed in the UNGA. If Serbia brings status to the negotiating table, Kosovo will just walk away and ignore it.
(Ian, UK, 7 March 2011 14:54)"

Duh, that's the whole point. The talks are designed for the albos to walk away, so Jeremic can re-introduce the udi condemnation resolution at the UN GA this fall. Vuk can simply say that the albos walked away and that is why they don't deserve recognition.

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

top,

statehood is not the end-result of opinion polling un members. If you want to play this ridiculous game, what did the world's court ICJ tell you? Kosovo's independence is IN LINE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW.


It's time for nationalists like you to move on.





Thanks,

pss

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's status certainly has been settled. It is more than autonomous, less than independent. We just need to work out the technical details of that status now. There will be some elements of independence but it will fall well short of full independence.

Each side should be given enough to keep it happy and prevent future conflict. Enough of the fantasy talk my friends and time to work towards a peaceful and lasting compromise.
(Zoran, 7 March 2011 17:25)
I cannot figure out whether your comment is to invoke a response or you have just woke up after a 20 year nap?

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's status certainly has been settled. It is more than autonomous, less than independent. We just need to work out the technical details of that status now. There will be some elements of independence but it will fall well short of full independence.

Each side should be given enough to keep it happy and prevent future conflict. Enough of the fantasy talk my friends and time to work towards a peaceful and lasting compromise.

Jim

pre 13 godina

Ian, ever the expert. You really have no clue. Kosovo's ability to play the hard line has gone. The independence project has stalled. These talks will start off nice and easy to get the ball rolling, but at some point status issues will have to arise, and be settled. Everyone knows it.

Analyst

pre 13 godina

it's crystal clear that neither Serbia nor Kosovo wants these talks and are more or less happy with the status quo: Serbia can keep the illusion that Kosovo is Serbia (according to UN1244), Kosovo can keep the illusion that they are independent. The Serbian nationalists are happy, the kleptocrats and criminals in the Kosovo government are happy that they have a solid base for doing their business. The ordinary people living there have to suffer, since there's no progress and no improvements.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Thats more like. As I have always said, Kosovo will not negotiate in areas it doesn't want to aka status. These are technical negotiations, per the EU-Serbia resolution passed in the UNGA. If Serbia brings status to the negotiating table, Kosovo will just walk away and ignore it.

Top

pre 13 godina

According to her, the two sides will discuss only technical matters in Brussels, without raising the issues of Kosovo's "independence, sovereignty, indivisibility and territorial integrity, because these issues are irrevocably settled".

But only in her dream world. Maybe ask the majority of the UN memebr states what they think about a unilateral 'indipindince'

Top

pre 13 godina

According to her, the two sides will discuss only technical matters in Brussels, without raising the issues of Kosovo's "independence, sovereignty, indivisibility and territorial integrity, because these issues are irrevocably settled".

But only in her dream world. Maybe ask the majority of the UN memebr states what they think about a unilateral 'indipindince'

Jim

pre 13 godina

Ian, ever the expert. You really have no clue. Kosovo's ability to play the hard line has gone. The independence project has stalled. These talks will start off nice and easy to get the ball rolling, but at some point status issues will have to arise, and be settled. Everyone knows it.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Thats more like. As I have always said, Kosovo will not negotiate in areas it doesn't want to aka status. These are technical negotiations, per the EU-Serbia resolution passed in the UNGA. If Serbia brings status to the negotiating table, Kosovo will just walk away and ignore it.

Analyst

pre 13 godina

it's crystal clear that neither Serbia nor Kosovo wants these talks and are more or less happy with the status quo: Serbia can keep the illusion that Kosovo is Serbia (according to UN1244), Kosovo can keep the illusion that they are independent. The Serbian nationalists are happy, the kleptocrats and criminals in the Kosovo government are happy that they have a solid base for doing their business. The ordinary people living there have to suffer, since there's no progress and no improvements.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's status certainly has been settled. It is more than autonomous, less than independent. We just need to work out the technical details of that status now. There will be some elements of independence but it will fall well short of full independence.

Each side should be given enough to keep it happy and prevent future conflict. Enough of the fantasy talk my friends and time to work towards a peaceful and lasting compromise.

pss

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's status certainly has been settled. It is more than autonomous, less than independent. We just need to work out the technical details of that status now. There will be some elements of independence but it will fall well short of full independence.

Each side should be given enough to keep it happy and prevent future conflict. Enough of the fantasy talk my friends and time to work towards a peaceful and lasting compromise.
(Zoran, 7 March 2011 17:25)
I cannot figure out whether your comment is to invoke a response or you have just woke up after a 20 year nap?

KOSO

pre 13 godina

top,

statehood is not the end-result of opinion polling un members. If you want to play this ridiculous game, what did the world's court ICJ tell you? Kosovo's independence is IN LINE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW.


It's time for nationalists like you to move on.





Thanks,

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

"Thats more like. As I have always said, Kosovo will not negotiate in areas it doesn't want to aka status. These are technical negotiations, per the EU-Serbia resolution passed in the UNGA. If Serbia brings status to the negotiating table, Kosovo will just walk away and ignore it.
(Ian, UK, 7 March 2011 14:54)"

Duh, that's the whole point. The talks are designed for the albos to walk away, so Jeremic can re-introduce the udi condemnation resolution at the UN GA this fall. Vuk can simply say that the albos walked away and that is why they don't deserve recognition.

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.

sj

pre 13 godina

(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:03)
Why not go back to the International Court and say “as you have concluded that our declaration of independence was not illegal, will you now declare that Kosovo is legally independent”.
Bet you all the money you have the US would shoot the first Albanian to try this on. So much for your international law!
(pss, 7 March 2011 18:49)
The EU wants to sell your Albanians out and that’s no secret because they can’t afford to keep paying for Kosovo, but let’s say Serbia recognizes an independent Kosovo, then will the persecuted Albanians promise NEVER to enter Serbia to look for work??? If I was persecuted, as some claim here, I wouldn’t not set foot into that country nor work for Serbs. I wonder how many say they will not set foot in Serbia.
Now for an update on the US, on the happy side unemployment is just under 9% and a fall in applications for social security, on the sad side its utter BS. They way they managed to show that even social security payments were falling was simple – they put in place new criteria which just did not count all that were receiving benefits.
The US also claims to have created 190 000 jobs last month, but they did not tell anyone that most of the new jobs wherein government and a large proportion were only temporary – hey why spoil a good story.
The reality is all of this comes on the back of the last 600 billion borrowed and printed to stimulate the economy, but some very well know economists are not too optimistic about the US economy improving before 2015 at best.
Just keep on printing and spending, but according to the hard line American the US can do that because God is on their side.

miri

pre 13 godina

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.
(JohnBoy, 7 March 2011 20:07)

The least you can do is to address us with our proper name, Albanians.

We are not Albos.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Duh, that's the whole point. The talks are designed for the albos to walk away, so Jeremic can re-introduce the udi condemnation resolution at the UN GA this fall. Vuk can simply say that the albos walked away and that is why they don't deserve recognition.

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.
(JohnBoy, 7 March 2011 20:07)

The EU-Serbia resolution passed by the UNGA called for "technical" negotiations not status negotiations. If Kosovo walks away it will be because Serbia was trying to negotiate something which the resolution didn't call for aka status negotiations. Also the UNGA is getting sick and tired of Serbia taking things to the UNGA regarding the same issue. Also with ICJ verdict stating that it wasn't illegal for Kosovo to UDI, no resolution will pass condemning it. You're turn.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

"The dialogue in Brussels will have an EU mediator, with the agenda which will have to be accepted by all three sides. This means that each side can have its wishes, but the forthcoming dialogue will have its rules and established principles," Tahiri underscored.

This says it all. Any proposal by Serbia as an agenda item must be approved by the Albanians, plain and simple.

lili

pre 13 godina

you may even imagine that the prishtina delegation will agree that kosovo is serbia!And then?
The matter is do albanians on the ground agree with that? No,as the Parlament session shows it...and absolutly no according the albanian public opinion...We are back to the "San eugidio discussions of the milosevic area" and we all do know how it ended!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

You're turn.
(Ian, UK, 8 March 2011 01:31)

That should say "Your turn". Little grammar error, I had just come back from the pub when I wrote that.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

sj, you're confused. If something is in line with the law, that means it is LEGAL.

I think you don't understand the law of mutual exclusivity.




Thanks,

Top

pre 13 godina

"If you want to play this ridiculous game, what did the world's court ICJ tell you? Kosovo's independence is IN LINE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW. "
(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:03)

Another person that cannot read. The ICJ said: The DECLARATION of independence is NOT AGAINST international law. ot more, not less. But thank you, you are welcome!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Thats more like. As I have always said, Kosovo will not negotiate in areas it doesn't want to aka status. These are technical negotiations, per the EU-Serbia resolution passed in the UNGA. If Serbia brings status to the negotiating table, Kosovo will just walk away and ignore it.

Jim

pre 13 godina

Ian, ever the expert. You really have no clue. Kosovo's ability to play the hard line has gone. The independence project has stalled. These talks will start off nice and easy to get the ball rolling, but at some point status issues will have to arise, and be settled. Everyone knows it.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's status certainly has been settled. It is more than autonomous, less than independent. We just need to work out the technical details of that status now. There will be some elements of independence but it will fall well short of full independence.

Each side should be given enough to keep it happy and prevent future conflict. Enough of the fantasy talk my friends and time to work towards a peaceful and lasting compromise.

Top

pre 13 godina

According to her, the two sides will discuss only technical matters in Brussels, without raising the issues of Kosovo's "independence, sovereignty, indivisibility and territorial integrity, because these issues are irrevocably settled".

But only in her dream world. Maybe ask the majority of the UN memebr states what they think about a unilateral 'indipindince'

KOSO

pre 13 godina

top,

statehood is not the end-result of opinion polling un members. If you want to play this ridiculous game, what did the world's court ICJ tell you? Kosovo's independence is IN LINE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW.


It's time for nationalists like you to move on.





Thanks,

Analyst

pre 13 godina

it's crystal clear that neither Serbia nor Kosovo wants these talks and are more or less happy with the status quo: Serbia can keep the illusion that Kosovo is Serbia (according to UN1244), Kosovo can keep the illusion that they are independent. The Serbian nationalists are happy, the kleptocrats and criminals in the Kosovo government are happy that they have a solid base for doing their business. The ordinary people living there have to suffer, since there's no progress and no improvements.

pss

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's status certainly has been settled. It is more than autonomous, less than independent. We just need to work out the technical details of that status now. There will be some elements of independence but it will fall well short of full independence.

Each side should be given enough to keep it happy and prevent future conflict. Enough of the fantasy talk my friends and time to work towards a peaceful and lasting compromise.
(Zoran, 7 March 2011 17:25)
I cannot figure out whether your comment is to invoke a response or you have just woke up after a 20 year nap?

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

"Thats more like. As I have always said, Kosovo will not negotiate in areas it doesn't want to aka status. These are technical negotiations, per the EU-Serbia resolution passed in the UNGA. If Serbia brings status to the negotiating table, Kosovo will just walk away and ignore it.
(Ian, UK, 7 March 2011 14:54)"

Duh, that's the whole point. The talks are designed for the albos to walk away, so Jeremic can re-introduce the udi condemnation resolution at the UN GA this fall. Vuk can simply say that the albos walked away and that is why they don't deserve recognition.

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.

sj

pre 13 godina

(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:03)
Why not go back to the International Court and say “as you have concluded that our declaration of independence was not illegal, will you now declare that Kosovo is legally independent”.
Bet you all the money you have the US would shoot the first Albanian to try this on. So much for your international law!
(pss, 7 March 2011 18:49)
The EU wants to sell your Albanians out and that’s no secret because they can’t afford to keep paying for Kosovo, but let’s say Serbia recognizes an independent Kosovo, then will the persecuted Albanians promise NEVER to enter Serbia to look for work??? If I was persecuted, as some claim here, I wouldn’t not set foot into that country nor work for Serbs. I wonder how many say they will not set foot in Serbia.
Now for an update on the US, on the happy side unemployment is just under 9% and a fall in applications for social security, on the sad side its utter BS. They way they managed to show that even social security payments were falling was simple – they put in place new criteria which just did not count all that were receiving benefits.
The US also claims to have created 190 000 jobs last month, but they did not tell anyone that most of the new jobs wherein government and a large proportion were only temporary – hey why spoil a good story.
The reality is all of this comes on the back of the last 600 billion borrowed and printed to stimulate the economy, but some very well know economists are not too optimistic about the US economy improving before 2015 at best.
Just keep on printing and spending, but according to the hard line American the US can do that because God is on their side.

Top

pre 13 godina

"If you want to play this ridiculous game, what did the world's court ICJ tell you? Kosovo's independence is IN LINE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW. "
(KOSO, 7 March 2011 19:03)

Another person that cannot read. The ICJ said: The DECLARATION of independence is NOT AGAINST international law. ot more, not less. But thank you, you are welcome!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

Duh, that's the whole point. The talks are designed for the albos to walk away, so Jeremic can re-introduce the udi condemnation resolution at the UN GA this fall. Vuk can simply say that the albos walked away and that is why they don't deserve recognition.

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.
(JohnBoy, 7 March 2011 20:07)

The EU-Serbia resolution passed by the UNGA called for "technical" negotiations not status negotiations. If Kosovo walks away it will be because Serbia was trying to negotiate something which the resolution didn't call for aka status negotiations. Also the UNGA is getting sick and tired of Serbia taking things to the UNGA regarding the same issue. Also with ICJ verdict stating that it wasn't illegal for Kosovo to UDI, no resolution will pass condemning it. You're turn.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

"The dialogue in Brussels will have an EU mediator, with the agenda which will have to be accepted by all three sides. This means that each side can have its wishes, but the forthcoming dialogue will have its rules and established principles," Tahiri underscored.

This says it all. Any proposal by Serbia as an agenda item must be approved by the Albanians, plain and simple.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

sj, you're confused. If something is in line with the law, that means it is LEGAL.

I think you don't understand the law of mutual exclusivity.




Thanks,

miri

pre 13 godina

That statement by the k-albo negotiator just show the stupidity of their position. EU nations don't elect people accused of war crimes as their prime minister - the albos don't have the european perspective. Serbia got rid of Milosevic, but the albos refuse to get rid of the snake.
(JohnBoy, 7 March 2011 20:07)

The least you can do is to address us with our proper name, Albanians.

We are not Albos.

lili

pre 13 godina

you may even imagine that the prishtina delegation will agree that kosovo is serbia!And then?
The matter is do albanians on the ground agree with that? No,as the Parlament session shows it...and absolutly no according the albanian public opinion...We are back to the "San eugidio discussions of the milosevic area" and we all do know how it ended!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

You're turn.
(Ian, UK, 8 March 2011 01:31)

That should say "Your turn". Little grammar error, I had just come back from the pub when I wrote that.