K. Albanian official warns about "war"

Another war in KosovO will 100% result in KosovO being fully reintegrated within Srbija.....please go ahead and start a war again!!

I promise you, Northern Kosovo WILL be the death of the retarded child project called 'kosova'.

Its greed. Had the Albanians accepted Kosovo south of the Ibar they would have had a much better chance to win. It is the greed of our illegal aliens to the South that will be the death of their ambitions.

You cannot realistically believe you can take Northern Kosovo, it is pure insanity. And for that reason, for trying too by force (which I pray you do) you will finally lose.

In the words of Nikita Kurshchev, "We WILL bury you"

Nema Predaje

Have to leave my 2 cents here as well...

whats going to happen in a future war... since papa america is bankrupt

Would this treat of war also be directed toward the hand that feeds you? As the Kosovo albanians have attached a US Military Bases in New York, and now killed two American Service men in Frankfurt.

Kosovo Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi said in an interview that German police have identified the suspect Arif Uka, a Kosovo citizen."

As Serbs have been educating the world, and slowly opinions have changed because the truth cannot be ignored forever. The truth is that albanians are the most intolerant community in Europe, as terrorists cannot be expected to suddenly change their stripes. The west has tried to ignore this festering albanian problem for far to long.

RE: "War"

He also believes there can be no peaceful partition, and added that "any division of territory would mean war, and I'm sure everyone's had enough of bloodshed".

That is the stupidest statement any Kosovo politician can make for a backward, impoverished region that cannot support itself.

Even the downgraded Serbian army will roll over Kosovo in a matter of hours, not days, hours. If Albania proper and FYROM elements also want to get involved, they will also be erased from the map. NATO is not going to send planes again to support a KLA run terrorist government.

Partition is the only viable solution or the status quo, a unrecognized European protectorate completely funded by the IMF.

PRIŠTINA -- A Kosovo Albanian member of the Kosovo police, KPS, recently committed suicide, and wrote a suicide note, media in Priština are reporting.

Luan Ademaj reportedly wrote that pressure that the Priština-based Kosovo government officials exerted on him to allow smuggling was the reason to take his own life, Albanian language daily Koha Ditore writes on Wednesday.

In the letter that the paper had seen, Ademaj wrote that he was placed under pressure of the Kosovo officials involved in smuggling, but did not mention their names or the names of any companies.

The 37-year-old was in charge of a border crossing with Montenegro, and committed suicide in February.

Isn't that a great "country" or what?

LOL! If it was another war, strictly Serb people, vs Albanian people.. I'm almost positive Serbia would reach northern Albania.

These clowns lost their minds if they think that realistically they can win in a war without outside interference.

We ARE your superiors, and I hope your great minister is correct of another war because that would be the worst thing to ever happen to you.

NEMA PREDAJE!

Hollow threats. Serbia would bury the KLA in another war! 'Nuff Said!

On another note - check out the following link about the US Soldiers
in frankfort who were attacked by
a "kosovar" terrorist today. 1 dead
american, 2 wounded + 1 dead driver.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/02/frankfurt-airport-shooting

This how "kosovars" treat their friends!

Another cowboy Albanian making threats. Like always threats coming from albanians are as empty as the wallet of the so called Pristina government. It's not difficult to be tough when you are standing on the other side of the bridge. I think both Europe and America are tired of albanian behaviour in Kosovo and elswhere. Especially after an incident in Frankfurt, Germany, where a kosovo albanian shoot and killed two american soilders and wounded two. Albanian politicians are doing Belgrades job for them. Sooner rather then later Kosovo will return to its rightful owner, Christianity.

Kosovan gunman kill US servicemen
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362247/Two-killed-Frankfurt-airport-shots-fired-near-bus-carrying-soldiers.html

I can't wait to read albanian excuses for this terrorist attack on their main sponsor.
Remember, this is not an isolated incident. Kosovo albanians were also caught planing a terrorist attack on US soil.

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/kosovo-79452-terrorism-pristina.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/17/ethnic-albanian-man-arrested-kosovo-terrorism-charges-following-extradition/

Well I wonder how keen U.S. airforce will be this time around on supporting Kosovo Albanians after one of them just killed 2 of them today in Germany:

Kosovo National Kills 2 US Soldiers at German Airport
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/17678/46/

As for bringing it we don't have to since we have achieved our ends peacuefully. You can try and bring it but I think you'll regret it big time.
(Zoti, 2 March 2011 18:38)
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Hey, you are the ones threatening war not us. Don't threaten before you are sure you have NATO backing. I think this time you won't.

Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.

Pure rhetoric and tough talk from a narco-official of an unrecognized narco-state with no economy and a token force armed with pistols, hunting rifles, jeeps and NO ARMY

Zoti,

have you heard of republika srpska? and who lost, the serbs - haha, yah right that is why banja luka exists. And Serbia itself never even fought, had it fought everyone would've been defeated just like the turks, the austrians, the hungarians, the croats, the mulsims, the albanians in WWI and WWII, the germans, the italians, NATO and America.

They all lost to the Serbs and you are losing again, you just don't see it yet...

No partition? OK, so I guess that also goes for the case of Serbia. Remember, Kosovo still is a Serbian province!

Replace in the article Kosovo with Serbia (or Serbia with Kosovo) and suddenly things make more sense. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. No double standards and please stop the useless parroting for it shows that you do not have your own opinion. This threat with violence and even war is just for internal consumption and is a way to express and divert complete incompetence and failure. In case the KLA thugs pass the threshold to overstep their little bit of common sense you can be sure that a painful spank is waiting, followed by another run for Albania and the end of the doomed pet project. Get it into your heads that the Serbs in Kosovo never want to have anything to do with terrorists and criminal thugs. As far as they are concerned they live in the Province of Kosovo and Metohija, part of the Republic of Serbia, a sovereign UN member.

"He also believes there can be no peaceful partition, and added that "any division of territory would mean war, and I'm sure everyone's had enough of bloodshed".

Somehow funny to hear those words coming from an official of a self-proclaimed 'state' that has been created by a (not so peaceful) partition/split off.

Another war in KosovA will 100% result in KosovA being fully reintegrated within Srbija.....please go ahead and start a war again!!
(Obilic, 2 March 2011)

The most we could lose would be the North of Ibar and the most we could win would be Presheva Valley and a United Albania including Western Macedonia.

As for bringing it we don't have to since we have achieved our ends peacuefully. You can try and bring it but I think you'll regret it big time.

Zoti, The KLA couldn't win a tug-of-war and there is no way that they could fight the Serbian Army. Your KLA was in Albania during the war. They only reason Serbia left Kosovo was because of NATO but don't expect that to happen again, especially after one Kosovo Albanian shoots four American servicemembers killing two. What kind of gratitude is that? All Albanian posters better remember this because this terrorist act against the US will be on the American news noting that the shooter was a Kosovo Albanian. Americans will remember this next time you need help.

arti style this time:
"If democracy is rule by the numbers, Kosova's independence is supported by 95% of the population, and if Serbia had even a semi-democratic government, it would have recognized Kosova's independence long time ago"

Yes, so again if democracy is rule by number, then 80% of serbia's citizens in the year 2006 wanted Kosovo to stay within Serbia. So, since you obviously refuse to use this axiom, you cannot use its corolory.
if Kosovo's leaders were at all semi-democratic they would not have split off, but rather worked out their problems. If Kosovo's leadership was at all semi-democratic they would be the "bigger" man and allow NMitro to leave without having to play barganing games -- I mean the true democratic nation (sponsored by the "greatest" democratic nations in the world) would not play such childish games.
so...
when you start on the wrong foot, every subsequent step is wrong too.
trace your arguments back to their logical origin and work from there, not some magical logic free zone where you choose to start arguing.
check and mate.

"Kosovan gunman kill US servicemen ...
I can't wait to read albanian excuses for this terrorist attack on their main sponsor. "
(MikeC, 2 March 2011 20:22)

Yeah, somehow strange that this incident in Frankfurt where a (supposedly) Kosovo Albanian killed two US soldiers based in Germany isn't a topic here yet. Let's hope it will the US of A make think about what people they are supporting. What will follow next? Attacks on US soldiers in Kosovo?

I'm all for a functional partition but not a formal one unless it includes all of the former-YU. Partition may very well open the can of worms.

Now back to reality, KiM Albanians will have to accept less than independence while Serbia will have to accept more than autonomy if any kind of negotiations can bring long lasting peace. If everyone has just enough to keep them happy then they won't risk losing it with another way.

The greed of attempting to get everything may very well mean losing everything. I agree with you there Nikola. The North is firmly in Serbian hands and Pristina attempting to force control over it would also mean war. Read Wikileaks, it has already been mentioned there.

True negotiations is the only path to a just compromise and lasting peace. The window of opportunity is still open so better use it before it closes.

This clown better think where he was in 1999-with organ trade looming over albanian heads and albanians killing US soldiers..they better start kissing some hinds or dancing like they did for gadhafi.The future of albanians looks like hell from now on..

"In early 2008, the province's ethnic Albanians unilaterally declared independence, which was rejected by Belgrade as an illegal act of separatism."

ICJ decided otherwise: The independence of Kosova is legal according to international law! It was Belgrade that brought the issue before ICJ, now Belgrade should abide by its ruling and recognize Kosova's independence immediately.



"Serbs in the north, where they are a majority, also did not accept the proclamation ..."

Serbs in the north constitute at most a handful of villages, whose entire total population is probably smaller than a section of Prishtina. If democracy is rule by the numbers, Kosova's independence is supported by 95% of the population, and if Serbia had even a semi-democratic government, it would have recognized Kosova's independence long time ago. But Serbia is having a hard time swallowing the defeat of its imperialistic ambitions, therein lies the problem.
As for the serbs in the north, they should have the same amount of rights as Albanians have in the Presheva valley. If Serbia wants to take N Kosova, it should give up Presheva Valley first.


"In the words of Nikita Kurshchev, "We WILL bury you"

Who did Nikita Krutchev bury exactely? If I remember correctly, he was the president of a country that 30 years later ceased to exist and shattered in a hundreed peices. Like Nikita's threats, today Serbia's bark has no bite. No dear Serbia, you don't have the power to partition Kosova, because if you did, N Kosova would have already been part of Serbia. You were told in no uncertain terms to go and talk to Albanians.

So if the Serbs in Northern Kosovo continue to demand self rule and actually break away to return to Serbia, they are threatening war? LOL, WOW! Attack, bring it, fight! That's like me threatening to beat up Bruce Lee or Mike Tyson for his lunch money. Oh how I would love to see Kosovo do something so stupid. Maybe they think the US will fight for them again, nothing like being the tiny scrawny kid threatening people while having black belt bodyguards to fight your battles. Well the US won't help you this time.

Why do the Albanians want the Serbs anyway? You broke apart to get away, so why do you care if the Serbs leave? Wouldn't that work better? We all know there will never be peace and integration there. Kosovo was Serbia before declaring their independence, the Serbs in the northern part did not want it and did not declare it, therefore they should not have to break away.

Really, it's just the K-Albs wanting all of Kosovo under their control, then getting rid of the Serbs that are there. Oh, they'll lie and claim the Serbs chose to leave and any other lie they have told over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again until it became 'truth' in their world. The truth is they will force them out. So why even wait for all that, looks like K-Albs have grown a set so go ahead and declare war already. The Serbs are salivating for you. No NATO, no outside help. Just one on one.

1st of april has not arrived yet... anyway it looks like the 1st of april is an every day business in the dream land !
Time to put Agim as president !

Militarily, KiM is no match for the VS in terms of troops and firepower. But that isin't the point. Warmongers like this man don't care about anyone but their own political/monetary gain and they have gained so much thanks to NATO they bark pretty loud standing behind they pitbull guardians. One day the pitbull will get tired of the barking and let the wolf attack you.

I don't see this as being anything more than macho political posturing.

Let me be completely honest, I truly believe that the only risk to the whole Kosovo independence project can come from a policy of war from Pristina. Whether that is against Serbs or any international forces.

That policy will not be supported by the EU and if any Serbian civilians are killed you can be sure that there will be pressure for Serbian forces to protect Serbs in the North. The Serbian government will do this in conjunction with international factors / forces, although unoficially arms would flow in from Belgrade.

I truly believe its a lose / lose situation from the Albanian perspective. The Kos Albanians have mapped out their political course and have to stick to it. Going it alone now would mean risking defeat.

Zoti,

I'm not a Serb and have no Balkan ethnicity in me at all so don't call me a Serb because I disagree with your viewpoint. But what I am saying is true. We are watching Americans die in Iraq and Afghanistan and we, the American people, are disgusted with those two countries we helped out but where we aren't appreciated. If you don't think this will turn American opinion against Kosovo, then you really do have your head in the sand. Not only with the American media talk about Muslim Kosovo, it will also mention the other terrorist the US wants that lives in Mitrovica but can't be extradited to the US because Kosovo hasn't made an extradition treaty with the US. And while they are playing the footage of an American bus with American blood on the the ground, they might show some Christian churches in Kosovo burned down during the 2004 riots along with video footage of Albanians on top of a church tearing down a cross. One Albanian will represent Kosovo in the eyes of the American public.

Hisa! Serbian Troops are within range of Kosovo province. The KLA can easily be crushed / defeated by the Serbian Army. Thanks to your WESTERN Masters your illegal institution still exists. Serbs in North will never accept this so called Kosovo government.

Ylber Hysa, Belgrade's man in the North, speaks about war, as though he knew anything about it. When we were fighting a war, this pacifist was drinking coffee in Prishtina with his student friends, always much younger than him. Now he takes Belgrade's money to thwart Kosova's legitimate aspiration to extend the rule of law across its entire territory. For how much longer are we prepared to tolerate this?

''Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.
(Peggy, 2 March 2011 21:10) ''

So we either live peacefully inside Serbia or go through another war? Is that what you saing peggy? After all what happened in 1999? ....Albanian people never wanted war, Albanians were only tired of Serbia... we were not the ones to sent tanks to vukovar, we were not the ones to bomb the sarajevo market, also, it is not on the serbian news, but it seems that this time, in the UN session, Jeremic got a reply from the Albanian vice minister, she told him sound and clear that there would be no regional reconcilation unless Serbia apologises for the genocide commited in Kosovo...this week Albanian intelectuals woke up and various sensibilisation activities took place...the time when our corrupt foreign ministers kept their mouth shut are over, Republic of Albania, will not stay quite to serbian propaganda like was done before...

As for the war threats, it is very easy to say ''my country beats the hell out of your country'' on the internet...serbs seem enthusiastic about NATO leaving Kosovo, etc...There will be no war, even if it happens, there is no way Serbia would dare to roll tanks into Kosov, that would mean violation of hundreds of treaties and agreements... also, unlike 1999, there is no international treaty that would stop Albania from intervening, we got a new fleet, new army and the new ifrastructure would make sure we deploy in Kosovo before any serbian tank exit the barrack...it is 2011 not 1999...serbia does not even have an airforce anymore, like 4 planes? which need to be upgraded?

@Iliri
Serbia actually has an army much more modernized than that of Albania. It has 300 modernized main battle tanks, countless Infantry Fighting Vehicles modernized, over one thousand pieces of artillery, and 40,000 proffesional forces with the newest Assault rifle the M-21. Serbia also has over 200 aircraft in its airforce ad is buying 30 new fighter jets most likely the Jas-Gripen 39 or Mig-35. Albania has no airforce whatsoever, it only has a dozen transport helicopters. it doesnt even have any tanks all of the t-55s that it had were scrapped and the 60 t-62s that they bought from east germany were sold. Albania really has no miliatry equipment and from what I know its not looking to purchase any new fighters or tanks which are the backbone of any military. And please dotn flatter yourself with your far-fetched dreams that Albania could defeat Serbia in a war, because you know that it would be impossible. Let the Kosovo Albanians start a war because it will be game over for them. I would love for them to be the ones to start the war so serbia could finish them off once and for all.

Zoti, The KLA couldn't win a tug-of-war and there is no way that they could fight the Serbian Army. Your KLA was in Albania during the war. They only reason Serbia left Kosovo was because of NATO but don't expect that to happen again, especially after one Kosovo Albanian shoots four American servicemembers killing two. What kind of gratitude is that?
(American Eagle, 2 March 2011)

I don't one Albanian's action reflect the attitude of 6 millions Albanians in the Balkans. Wishful thinking on your part.

As for the winner of war just look at the outcome to determine who's the real winner. You Serbs boasts of your superior army yet you lost all of the Blakan wars of the 90's. Your whol epolitical leadership was tried at the Hague. Some achievement.

just another stupid man who threatens with war, actually as soon as an Albanian is threatening with war, or " hell will break loose" and similar nonsense, it is an indicator for their nervousness.

they know very well that they would not be able to defend themselves against the only legitimate army on serbian territory.

and since K-albanians like this idiot over there in Germany who killed to G.I´s at the Frankfurt-Airport are even biting the hand that feeds them...

Serbia will prevail even faster.

let´s just see what future brings!

Well, you are wrong. There will be partition, and KAlbs should want that too. It is clear that Serbia will never be able to reintegrate the entirety of Kosovo, nor would all Serbs living in Kosovo ever peacefully accept Kosovo as their state. Thus, partition is a very good option; it's the only option. KAlbs, why would you want to force Serbs to live in an Albanian Kosovo when you didn't want to live in Serbia? Obviously that doesn't make sense whatsoever. If there is war, it will be because some Kosovo Albanian representatives want to force Serbs whom don't wish to live under Albanian rule to live under Kosovo Albanian rule.

Another Albanian big mouth trying to make a name for himself in the domestic political market. There is an old saying – it’s all p… and wind.

Another war? The war never ended, it only change forms. How can the war end while people are occupying Serbian land?

When Turkey occupied our land, the war continued for 500 years, until Serbs finally drove them out.

The occupiers will be lucky if they can keep any part of Kosovo.

I don't think the point is that the KLA army joke can beat the VS when all they have to do is start another war in FYROM (directly or via franchise). In effect they would be blackmailing Brussels and DC that if they don't get what they want, the whole Balkan Stability Pact will go down the toilet. Time have changed though and stabbing one so-called allies in the back would be extremely dangerous...

Well I suppose Hisa can say whatever he wants concerning partition that everyone outside Pristina recognizes as de facto, if not an inconvenient truth. But truth be told, there's little the international community is going to do short of verbal protests if northern Kosovo continues to function (quite successfully) off Pristina's grid, and I sincerely doubt any Albanian official in Pristina is going to sound the call to war and basically be this decade's Milosevic. Kosovo has no army to speak of, and any expectation the international community will once again give them what they can't achieve on their own is wishful thinking now that KFOR has reduced its troops to 5000. I also see statements like this as a sign that Pristina knows what's to come in these talks, and that is in some form or another they're going to be forced to accept that the north will remain out of their control indefinitely. I don't see formal territorial partition in the cards, but I do believe Belgrade can very well convince the international community to put pressure on Pristina accepting Belgrade's formal control of the north and heavy influence over the other Serb enclaves in exchange for removing any institutional and diplomatic obstacles to Kosovo's international integration. Thus "partition" comes at a price of internal division instead of redrawing formal borders.

As far as some posters here thinking Presevo over even western Macedonia will somehow fall into the equation, I would be curious to know how these two topics are relevant to the negotiations over Kosovo.

the abanians better be careful because there will be no world help this time they did nothing in the other war ,the world did but the world are fed up with albanian lies and terrorism against america in the past and today in germany.

Mr.Hisa threat of war will get him nowhere.
At Present time Kosovo is under supervise independence by UNMIK and EU,its not sovereign state.It can not become sovereign state without approval of UNSC and Serbia.Serbian soldiers are in control of Kosovo international borders not Kosovo Albanians.As far as Northern Kosovo is concern EULEX and Serbia are keeping that volatile situation under control.Warmongers should be kept on the tight leash by EULEX and KFOR.Mr Hisa and people like you should learn how to live in peace with your neighbors,or your future is pretty bleak in that region.
Kosovo Albanians should be grateful to UNMIK,EULEX and other International
organizations for their decade+ efforth
to bring civility,respect for human kind
law and order in Kosovo.Its hard if not impossible to create something better from terrorists,drugs dealers,human smugglers and now most despecable,
gruesome, of all crimes killing people and selling their organs.

Another war in the balkans...and both serbia and kosovo officially become the european getto...Serbian army has not the glorious Jugoslav arsenal any more, so this time war might result in skirmishes inside the serbian territory, i were a serb i would not be so enthusiastic aboout a war, no matter how weak Kosovo is , situation is different from 1999, i m against any idea of war, because this might drag also Albania and Bosnia into war, once the fire starts, it can not be stopeed until it burns everything...both albanians and serbs would suffer...both our countries must set a law against mentioning the word ''war'' and the punishment must be no less than 2 years...that is the only way these sick minded bastards learn to control their tounges...

Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.
(Peggy, 2 March 2011)

Right because for the almost 100 years Albanians lived under Serb colonial rule life was so peaceful in Kosova.
We did consider it and came to a consluion on February 17, 2008.

Also have you considered why 2 million Albanians have to live under Serbs when 80,000 Serbs cannot live under Albanian rule under no circumstances?

SHAME ON YOU Mister.
Shame on all who call and talk about
a new war, on both sides! This is so disgusting.

Iliri,

Maybe the Kosovo Albanian people did not want war, but the KLA and NATO wanted war and the majority of the Kosovo Albanians supported or were sympathetic to the KLA (and NATO) so draw your own conclusion. What genocide was committed in Kosovo? Regarding violations of many treaties I can say the following: the Kosovo Albanians and some Western countries have perfected that skill and so why should Serbia stick to all kinds of agreements that have no meaning because one side does not respect them anyway. Remember UNSC 1244? It is still valid. I do not believe that Albania would be so silly to intervene in Kosovo if Serbia has no other choice but to come to the aid of Serbs north of the Ibar River. Just keep up the tough talk, keep bluffing and keep believing in your deeply embedded lies.

Zoti,

Read my comments to Endri that just posted. I am an American working in Kosovo so that is how I'm well informed about Kosovo and I have seen how your education system works. Repetition with no free thought. That is why you can't accept that I am an American who has seen Albanians and disagrees with their thinking. Your thought that if I disagree with your ideas makes me a Serb comes from what you are taught in school. Listen and obey without thinking and anyone who doesn't agree with you is your enemy. Your thought process is just like this gunman who listened to radicals instead of using reason.

No Nicola you need another medicine called "OLUJA" and to send back to mother Russia were you belong

K. Albanian official warns of war... Please don't write checks that the Bank of NATO might not cash...

"flawed logic once again": flawed indeed!

You are the chess champion of the tournament in which you were the only player. Congratulations! You may kiss yourself on the cheek.

Kosova's leaders (Rugova, Agani etc.) tried for 10 years to work out the problems peacefully with Serbia, for 10 years they were humiliated to no end. There's is no reason, absolutely none, why North of Ibar should go to Serbia and Presheva Valley not go to Kosova. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right? No double standards, please!

Oh, and the mighty Serbian army: If it was so mighty, KLA would not have been in power today in Prishtina. Otherwise what it was so mighty for?

I didn´t really take much care about who it was wrote that nonsense, but talking about Slovenia having " beaten Serbia " in 1991 is just funny.

does this clueless Albanian not read?

does he REALLY believe the Slovenian defeated the (then) yugoslav army in what is now Slovenia?

boy, you make me smile!

by the way, ...I think the Slovenians are even stronger than the Albanians, in terms of military and RELEVANT manpower.

last but not least:

the serbian army is in fact far away from 1991, because it´s just about to transform into a highly effective army of specialists.

what will make them even more effective in the future, so, don´t you even dream of having a chance against Serbia, in case the Albanians should be so stupid to start another war!

KiM will be re-integrated, but I think that will happen without a single shot fired.

so, all these phrases posted by our dear k-albanian friends are not more than proof of their helpless situation.

they don´t know what will be with them, since the greater albanian project has already failed, and the "kosovaaahhh"-joke will end miserably, too.

just a question of time, actually.

LOL! If it was another war, strictly Serb people, vs Albanian people.. I'm almost positive Serbia would reach northern Albania.

These clowns lost their minds if they think that realistically they can win in a war without outside interference.

We ARE your superiors, and I hope your great minister is correct of another war because that would be the worst thing to ever happen to you.

NEMA PREDAJE!
(Nikola, 2 March 2011 19:16)

I don't care that you are Serbian, but you'd have to be pretty sick to WANT war, especially an ethnic one.

It is ok. 'ben' no capitals will happily have this traitor eliminated*, along with quite a few other albanian posters here who also express the view that any albanian that isn't signed up Thaci and co. should be slaughtered (and we are not just talking PDK here). Glad to see such faith in your own deeply corrupted political processes. So far from God and even further away from Europe.

*As he as expressed in comments on other comment threads, though it may take him some time to beat such a person to death with his keyboard and only maybe if they are a) dead already, b) asleep or c) otherwise already incapacitated.

Yes, the news feeds off misery and likes to put out these kinds of stories. If you ever get a chance to watch Fox News, you will see what I am talking about.
(American Eagle)

The same network that calls Obama both a communist and a fascist, a Stalin and a Hitler? Now it all explains your depply anti-Islamic behavior.

Well AE Albanians don't care much for religion. Arif Uka is represetnative of the Albanian community as much as Timothy McVeigh was representative of the Christian America.

(Endri, 3 March 2011 23:36)
NATO membership only works in case a country gets attacked by another country outside the alliance. Not if a NATO member itself starts a war.

"Allow me my friend to tell you that KOSOVA is gone for good from Serbia."

black hand


That's what the turks once said.

Nothing new really, I bet majority in Kosovo support war if Serbia tries to grab northern part of Kosovo.

"I'm not a Serb and have no Balkan ethnicity in me at all so don't call me a Serb because I disagree with your viewpoint. But what I am saying is true. We are watching Americans die in Iraq and Afghanistan and we, the American people, are disgusted with those two countries we helped out but where we aren't appreciated. If you don't think this will turn American opinion against Kosovo, then you really do have your head in the sand. Not only with the American media talk about Muslim Kosovo, it will also mention the other terrorist the US wants that lives in Mitrovica but can't be extradited to the US because Kosovo hasn't made an extradition treaty with the US. And while they are playing the footage of an American bus with American blood on the the ground, they might show some Christian churches in Kosovo burned down during the 2004 riots along with video footage of Albanians on top of a church tearing down a cross. One Albanian will represent Kosovo in the eyes of the American public."


I don't know why you should "contribute" to this forum by thinking always that your points of view represent the truth. Indeed your represent exactly the point of view of 100% Serbs in here. There is no connection in any way between Kosovo, Ira and Afghanistan. Americans are appreciated all around Albanian areas starting from Albania till Presevo valley for their contribution through our history. Your attempt to represent quite different picture and to draw parallelisms between those countries is disgusting one. In a individual act you involve "Muslim Kosovo" burning of Serbian churches and so one which have nothing to do with the topic and with the reality. Such combination can only support the Serbian propaganda and I am sure you wont find any space for it in US public. Some years ago a south Korean student killed about 27 students in US. Did it change the opinion of American people against Korean people who are so thankful to US as Albanians???? What about 220 Albanian soldiers fighting in Afghanistan or you don't want to mention it. If you have better arguments bring them here and don't polish the Serbian historic propaganda.

So it appears that Hysa has succeeded in the mission which his Belgrade paymasters set him, to ensure that Kosova is seen as belligerent and unpredictable. Anyone who knows this bohemian pacifist, who has spent his entire life running errands for Surroi and taking money from Kosova's enemies, will regard his statements as ridiculous. War is too noble a word to pass from his mouth. Kosova must be cleansed of traitors or she will surely die.

Endri,

Read my comments correctly and you will see my point. I wasn't comparing Afghanistan, Iraq and Kosovo. I was stating that the American public doesn't like to see the loss of American life for countries that don't appreciate our sacrifices. This gunman in Germany, the unextraditable Albanian in Mitrovica, the Albanians involved in the Fort Dix plot, and now another Albanian in Maryland who was mad at the US for American's supposedly killing his family in the Kosovo bombings all paints a very bad image of Kosovo. Yes, the news feeds off misery and likes to put out these kinds of stories. If you ever get a chance to watch Fox News, you will see what I am talking about. And if you read the other news sites, you will see what I am talking about. USA Today, a major US newspaper, had the headline "Prosecutors: 'Islamism' may have spurred shooting of U.S. airmen" while the New York Daily News had the headline "Suspect in custody after allegedly killing two U.S. airmen in attack after ‘Allah Akbar’ shout". The papers are even including references to the "White Al-Qaeda" or European Muslims capable of these types of attacks. This is what the American public reads and what they base their opinions off of, not your assumption that all Albanians love Americans and that Americans know this. The majority of Americans don't know where Kosovo is or why we are here so this will form their opinions as would the videos that the news services will show of the Albanians burning churches and tearing down Christian crosses. This is not Serbian propoganda but fact. If it didn't happen, then it would be propoganda.

"I am sure you wont find any space for it in US public." Don't make assumptions about matters you don't have any knowledge about or you will end up being proven wrong. We didn't assume that Kosovo Albanians would be attacking us after we saved their hides. Putting 220 Albanian soldiers in Afghanistan doesn't mean anything when they are in the safer provinces and away from the 90,000 American soldiers who are put in the dangerous provinces.

I am an American working in Kosovo so that is how I'm well informed about Kosovo and I have seen how your education system works. Repetition with no free thought. That is why you can't accept that I am an American who has seen Albanians and disagrees with their thinking. Your thought that if I disagree with your ideas makes me a Serb comes from what you are taught in school. Listen and obey without thinking and anyone who doesn't agree with you is your enemy. Your thought process is just like this gunman who listened to radicals instead of using reason.
(American Eagle, 3 March 2011)

So you lambast me for making the wrong assumptions about you which according to you are clearly due to my "educational background" and go on to make an assumption about me?

You don't know anything about my educational background. I grew up in Tirana and not in Kosova. I graduted high shcool in Fresno California went to college in NYC, law school in NYC, and currently am in my last semester of my master's in law also in NYC.

So maybe, just maybe, my inability to have a "free thought" stems from my being subjected to the American educational system just like you have as you seem to have the same symptoms I do.

Citing Fox News as your main source of info speaks volume about your ability to have a free thought.

Good day.

If it comes to a war; Theres no way the VS are going to be beaten. Russia are stronger, and far more supportive of Serbia then they were 12 Years ago, should they not send troops themselves, they'd definitely prevent any kind of intervention like we saw last time, and considering some of the headlines we've had in recent months, there would probably be calls for Americans to back the Serbs.

The Serbian govt would certainly have learnt their lessons from the past and (like the Bosniaks and Albanians did during the 90s) hire a western public relations firm; to ensure that the kind of propoganda campaign we had during the last two wars from the Muslim/Albanian side doesnt come to fruitian.

Another would be to ban paramilitary units, and merge the soldiers into groups under control of the govt. While Arkans Tigers and the White eagles had been dispanded and their members relocated to the JSO in 1999, the Scorpions were not, I'd estimate that there'd be half the number of Albanian civilian casulties if they were'nt there.

Well, well sounds like the pot is calling the kettel black.

arti, why didn't your response include the topic? why shift over to who tried hard to do what? why not leave it where you started? using an argument that is based upon populations and percentages of a population, and the "wishes" of said overwhelming majority?
your latest attempt to sound clever has you switching topics all together. you've utterly abondoned the original point. is this how you try to debate a point? when someone stands up and demonstrates your errors you switch to something else, never conceeding.
at no point did i mention rugova, or how hard he tried, for how long he tried, and or why serbia did or did not try reciprically.
when you start by saying 95% of kosovo (a subset of serbia then and on some sort of technical psuedo for still (but not really -- not the point though)), which is 25% of serbia, then a 100% of kosovo is minority vote in serbia. but, if you start saying 100% of presevo, while not allowing for 100% of nmitro then your are being hypocritical.
secondly, who said that there needs to be a "fair" trade? seeing how kosovo left without the majority approval of serbia, nmitro can leave without the majority approval of kosovo, but serbia doesn't need to offer presevo in return. serbia can still function with presevo within its borders, can kosovo function with nmitro within its? considering that serbia has spent a massive amount of the past 20 years under sanctions and kosovo's leaders have been given much international financial support for the past while, which it has not trickled down to the people it would seem that where functionality is concerned serbia has a good position. if kosovars want a functioning state, and not massive land grab, if they truely believed in their democracy then nmitro would long ago have been traded for peace.
arti and the ilk seem to be hell bent on winning some imaginary prize. peace is not their goal, nor is prosperity nor stability. when you learn to argue from logical perspective, remove yourself from feelings then you will see that it is this behaviour that is causing as many problems as you blame others of doing.

I'm not a Serb and have no Balkan ethnicity in me at all so don't call me a Serb because I disagree with your viewpoint. But what I am saying is true. We are watching Americans die in Iraq and Afghanistan and we, the American people, are disgusted with those two countries we helped out but where we aren't appreciated. If you don't think this will turn American opinion against Kosovo, then you really do have your head in the sand. Not only with the American media talk about Muslim Kosovo, it will also mention the other terrorist the US wants that lives in Mitrovica but can't be extradited to the US because Kosovo hasn't made an extradition treaty with the US. And while they are playing the footage of an American bus with American blood on the the ground, they might show some Christian churches in Kosovo burned down during the 2004 riots along with video footage of Albanians on top of a church tearing down a cross. One Albanian will represent Kosovo in the eyes of the American public.
(American Eagle, 3 March 2011)

AE you talk like a Serb, walk like a Serb...well you know the drill.
I must say for an "American" you seem to be well informed on all things Kosova since most Americans I know can't locate Europe on a map let alone Kosova. But you conveniently forget that there hasn't been any violence towards American troops in Kosova while the American Embassy was torched in broad daylight in Belgrade.

Like I've said before this is all wishful thinking on your part. Albanians are the most pro-American ethnic group in Europe and that's not going to change because of the action of one demented youth who fell prey to Islamic fundamentalism.

I must add that he was a German citizen born and raised in Germany. Germany doesn't allow for dual citizenship expect in a few rare cases.

I'm not even going to go into the US "helping out" Iraq and Afghanistan. It seem sir like it is you who has his head bureid in the sand.

Have you heard something about NATO??? As you might know Albania is member of alliance so we don't need to have much military hardware. Well with e debt of some billion of Euro like Serbia we could buy pretty new tanks, airplanes or whatever.
(Endri, 3 March 2011 23:36)
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You are talking about Albania for starters, not Kosovo province of Serbia. There is no reason for Serbia and Albania to have a war.
Kosovo is Serbia's internal problem and has no impact on Albania whatsoever.

Also, Albania cannot dictate to NATO and tell it to attack any country just because it doesn't like what is going on in that country. When are you Albanians going to realise that Albania is a separate country and has nothing to do with Serbia or Kosovo? It cannot make any decisions over there.

BTW when have you seen a tail wag the dog?

''Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.
(Peggy, 2 March 2011 21:10) ''

So we either live peacefully inside Serbia or go through another war? Is that what you saing peggy?
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No, and you know it.
Your mate is saying that Serbs better live inside Kosovo under Albanian rule or there will be war and all I am saying is that perhaps K-Albanians are tired of all this war talk and would rather just go back to the way it was.

Why do you people constantly try to twist my words?
Could it be because you have no argument so you have to ask the questions you want to provide for even though they have not been asked?

(Flamur)

The right people now have comprehensive evidence of Ylber Hysa's anti-Kosova activities and will take action on it. Very shortly we will not have to worry about this individual working against our national interest.

@Taylor:
But as far as I'm concerned the Serbs who are detained at the Hague detention center are defeated in the sense they've lost their freedom and if and/or when they're convicted of war crimes certainly that's defeat for them and finally if some Serb troops end up in hell for committing war crimes than they are ultimately on the losing end so to speak.

Serbia actually has an army much more modernized than that of Albania. It has 300 modernized main battle tanks, countless Infantry Fighting Vehicles modernized, over one thousand pieces of artillery, and 40,000 proffesional forces with the newest Assault rifle the M-21. Serbia also has over 200 aircraft in its airforce ad is buying 30 new fighter jets most likely the Jas-Gripen 39 or Mig-35. Albania has no airforce whatsoever, it only has a dozen transport helicopters. it doesnt even have any tanks all of the t-55s that it had were scrapped and the 60 t-62s that they bought from east germany were sold. Albania really has no miliatry equipment and from what I know its not looking to purchase any new fighters or tanks which are the backbone of any military. And please dotn flatter yourself with your far-fetched dreams that Albania could defeat Serbia in a war, because you know that it would be impossible. Let the Kosovo Albanians start a war because it will be game over for them. I would love for them to be the ones to start the war so serbia could finish them off once and for all.


Have you heard something about NATO??? As you might know Albania is member of alliance so we don't need to have much military hardware. Well with e debt of some billion of Euro like Serbia we could buy pretty new tanks, airplanes or whatever.

"NATO membership only works in case a country gets attacked by another country outside the alliance. Not if a NATO member itself starts a war."

I never said that Albania is going to start any war and involve NATO. Moreover I don't recall such case when Albanian ever started a war with any country around us. If Albania for obvious reason (according to some Serbian commentators here) is attacked by superpower "Serbima" then the situation could be different. God day!

''I didn´t really take much care about who it was wrote that nonsense, but talking about Slovenia having " beaten Serbia " in 1991 is just funny.

does this clueless Albanian not read?

does he REALLY believe the Slovenian defeated the (then) yugoslav army in what is now Slovenia?

boy, you make me smile! ''

If you think that serbian helicopters getting shot down is funny, go ahead and smile all you want. Officially and literally, Slovenia won. Yep i do admit though, we albanians, have the weakest army in the whole world...yet the glorious and mightiest serbian army never dared to cross the border, how so? If Albania was so weak, you could have easily invaded and removed UCK camps once and for all ... and we openly admitted that UCK camps were established in Albania and broadcasted the call for duty on satelite radios and TVs around the globe for Kosovo Albanians...but probaly brave serb generals did not watch albanian tv channels, so there is no way they were aware of Albanian's wrongdoing...also , the heavy artelly firing against serbs in koshare, was done from inside albanian borders, and was operated by the FARSH...at that point serbs ran away...they even had no time to drag the bodies of their own comrades, although most of them were russian mercenaries.

The occupiers will be lucky if they can keep any part of Kosovo.
(Crna Ruka, 3 March 2011 21:24)

Allow me my friend to tell you that KOSOVA is gone for good from Serbia.

I guess the Albanians have a case in their military/soldiers being superior.

Check the link below...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM7EcZ4_4Gc&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dserbian%2B%2Bvs%2Balbanian%26aq%3Df&has_verified=1

Peggy, let me answer your last post...the person in this article, fist time i hear about him, is an imbecile, but balkans, by default , is run by imbeciles...the current Kosovo borders are the same borders Serbia established in 1974, Albanians had nothing to do with it, so if you want to blame someone, blame serbian communistis for giving us an autonomous region with these borders...yeah, Kosovo was not a republic, we all know that bla bla interniatoal law bla bla kosovo je serbija etc etc, but you can not erase the events of 1990-1999 by magic, yeah we all know it was a bizarre consiparicy, how Thaci killed 10 000 albanians and blamed Milosevic, how all qaeda helped albanians create a marxist state which cultivates drugs etc etc and how the state is run by cosa nostra and jihadist, even if all of this is true, there is no way Serbian army will step in Kosovo ever again, that would mean another balkan war, it is like asking croatians to become a jugoslav republic again, even if beograd promises to build streets with gold...so please, before even trying to figure out what the problem is , stick that ''kosovo is serbia'' out of your head and compromise a little bit more when thinking to yourself, try to put youself in the the shoes of a person who actually lives there, this is not an issue what albanians of albania (my self i am from albania) or what serbs of serbia want, this is about what the ones living in kosovo want, and if it does not suit belgrade and tirana, than all is good...well, if i were a kosovo serb, i would never accept the fact that Albanians run the country and i would act exactly the same way mitrovica serbs do, so, if i were a kosovo official, i would know this better, i would not cut the energy, or the telephone for serbs livinng there, if we look back , wasn't this what we albanians did in 1990s? Didn't Albanians refuse to pay taxes and instead pay them to Rugova gov etc?...so let them not pay the bills , actually as far as i know, serbs there are paying taxes to Beograd, so i don't see why serbs have to suffer uneccessary pressure from pristina, it is a problem between the two governments, and that is why the talks should start as soon as possible...yep, ok, kosovo is run by thugs who need to get taxes to cover their budget, but isn't any country of balkans run by thugs? Of course we know that bla bla Kosovo leaders are all corrupt maphia organ harvesters and drug dealers. Don't you serbs understand that Albanians there would rather be governed by thugs and organ harvesters in pristina than see serbian police and tanks around, and listen to speeches of beograd leaders about 1389 every year? (btw, balshajs of albania fought by lazar side in that battle as well, but i guess this is not in history books as albanians didn't exist before 17th century) And please don't start saying how unemplyment is 70% etc, because, even if it is 70%, in 90s it used to be 90% which was worse...acturally albanians in kosovo would rather have a famine than be governed by beograd, sad but true...so things will never be ''like they used to'' as you propose peggy...yet, practically Serbia has anexed north of iber, but this is not the main problem now, Kosovo has many other prolems, such as economy, unemplyoment, organised crime, international reckognition...but what will happen when Kosovo manages to enter UN in a decade or so? Things will be different, and Serbia better hurry up in talks before that happens...

Both our politicans need to view the situation more practically, and respond to people needs more efficiently.If i were a Kosovo governer or minsiter, i would not mind mitrovica so much, no need to panic so much about it, i don't agree with Rexhepi to deploy Kosovo police there, i would not care much which police is there, even if serbian police is deployed there, actually i would even ask serbian police (not the army) to take care of public order there and even let them in gracanica, you know, the same way Germany did iin world cup 2006, and when the Kosovo enters UN ask them nicely to remove their Serbian badge, and replace it with the Kosovo badge...my point is that, both Beograd and Pristina are playing like mice and cats, trying to impress the masses and keeping the situation tense, in this manner, the Kosovo entrance to UN is postponed, the solution of interethnic issues is postponed, the economical improvement is postponed, the fight against organised crime is postponed, the international presence is elongated, consequently, corruption is elongetaed, the serbian EU integration is postponed...and who benefits? Only and only politicans of course. How about the people who live there?

''You are talking about Albania for starters, not Kosovo province of Serbia. There is no reason for Serbia and Albania to have a war.
Kosovo is Serbia's internal problem and has no impact on Albania whatsoever. ''

Please, spare that ''internal'' problem which has no ''impact'' on Albania...Albanians outside the border are our brothers and sisters, we would never abandone them and let them get slaughtered again like it happened in 1944 and 1999...if something happens again, this time we will act, border is not controled by serbs like in 1999, this is 2011 and all we have to do, is remove the albanian coat of arms from our soldiers' uniforms, and replace them with that fierce lion coat of arms that internationals designed for us, this way officially Albania will not have to fight the war...also we have enough guns to arm millions of people ...sheer numbers are a quality in itself said comrade stalin once upon a time ago...Kosovo Albanians are not 2 million , now they are 6 millions...(i think E.Hoxha said this last line, yeah he also told us to make as many children back then) anyway, i can't understand serbian menthality, sovreignity is not some ultimate power that allows the ''sovreign state'' to do as it wishes with the people living inside the ''sovreign''borders, and claim that what ever happens inside ''sovreign borders'' is no other state's business...once a state of some country aims guns to its own citizens , the legitimacy of that state is questioned...even russia, when dealing with chechens, didn't go around ethnicaly cleansing muslims , and they fought only and only the rebels, yeah they shelled the hell out of Grozni, but those are russian standarts not european standarts, and russia is one hell of a super power which could care less what the rest of world thinks anyway...but, let us see other similar european conflicts, northen ireland for instance,IRA has killed many policemen, and even inocent civilians, but english do not sent there tanks and ''white eagles'' to punish the rebels, they negotiated and talked...Fyrom, for instance, Albanians there, rebeled, but fyromians did not go around kill women and children...so, willingly or not, both albanians and fyromians sat around the table and talked, not that they solved all the problems, but at least they quit the war...

The occupiers will be lucky if they can keep any part of Kosovo.
(Crna Ruka, 3 March 2011 21:24

Crna Ruka,

The only occupiers in Kosova are the few Serb MUP and paramilitaries hiding there under old women's skirts in North Mitrovica . They will be removed after negotiations, beginning this week, are concluded.

Anonymous, yes, serbian army is mighty, content? Yet...if Slovenia could literally beat Serbia in early 90s...and believe me, there is no way Serbian army of 2011 is as mighty as Jugoslav army was in 1990s...when Slovenia won the battle, embargo had not started yet, and still you almost let your soldiers starve , Jugoslav army strategy was so outstanding that could not even transport bread from point A to point point B, i mean, how can you expect someone to fight a war with an empty stomach ... At least, our ''transport helicopters'' would never do such a stupid mistake... mig 35 ? yeah, but you don't have them yet...our military program was to get 30 f-16s as well, but they seemed expensive and not worth the effort since greece is the only balkan country having a proper airforce, and now, in theory greece is our ally...for 20 years, serbian pilots failed to fly mig 29 properly...Albanian Army is the most outdated army in the balkans, but our 150mm artilery can hit the target, and there is no armour that can endure a shell like that, and our light tanks and apc-s can roll around the mountains and bad terrain easily, you know koshare? our poorly equiped soldiers are outstanding in projectile physics, ask greeks, they felt our guns go live in 1996 when their ship ''accidentaly'' entered our waters and ''accidentaly'' lost 4 sailors...yes, our planes stood no chance against mig-29, but still forced italians to change all their radar system in late 90s, still i doubt serbia had many migs, ...btw is it true that gedafi's pilots bombing protesters were serbs? Did you know that many ww2 allied pilots commited suicide after seeing german and japanese cities turned to rubble?...You see, no matter how badly equiped our army might be, but all i know is that, our artillery would never hit a market full of people, even by mistake.

''Have you heard something about NATO??? As you might know Albania is member of alliance so we don't need to have much military hardware. Well with e debt of some billion of Euro like Serbia we could buy pretty new tanks, airplanes or whatever.
(Endri, 3 March 2011 23:36) ''

Endri, we already are spending to much on defence, we are building 5 new ships in Vlora which cost more than several hundred tanks...we are getting the most expensive helicopters on the market ''so to improve relations with french''...if you asked me we should have taken second hand US helicopters and aircraft..we have raised our expenditures up to 4%...NATO commitment is costing us dearly, instead of selling our old arsenal, we are spending even more to destroy them and even more to replace them with expensive NATO weapons...if you ask me, we should have gone on with our treaties with China, they still respect us and busines is business, and chinese, since 90s, are producing outstanding stuff and cheap as well... When berisha went to china, high rank chinese leaders there were pretty affectionate with him , which is weird considering berisha's speeches about communism, and our modest international position...but if we remember, although offically we broke relations with china in 1978, we recieved weapons and stuff until 1996, and even at that time berisha was in power...aside the supspicion that i have, i doubt our army is as outdated as it seems, despite of political problems in Albania, we joined NATO quite fast, which by nato standarts means we are able to provide protection for ourselves...well, it is a military org afterall..yet, i m just speculating. It feels good to see footage of our boys trainig though.

@Anonymous:

You probably are going to find this laughable but if I was in a situation where I was familiar with an Albanian person(s) who I find to be rather decent and someone I'm personally able to connect with and if I was in a situation where I'm familiar with a Serb(s) even an Albanian(s) who has in essence unappealing characteristics and if I get the opportunity to do certain things for an innocent Albanian person(s) that I don't intend to do for the Serb(s) even the Albanian(s) who ain't so innocent than therefore I feel I've inflicted "defeat" against the Serb(s) even Albanian(s) who I'm complaining about.

Ylber Hysa, Belgrade's man in the North, speaks about war, as though he knew anything about it. When we were fighting a war, this pacifist was drinking coffee in Prishtina with his student friends, always much younger than him. Now he takes Belgrade's money to thwart Kosova's legitimate aspiration to extend the rule of law across its entire territory. For how much longer are we prepared to tolerate this?

No Nicola you need another medicine called "OLUJA" and to send back to mother Russia were you belong

"In early 2008, the province's ethnic Albanians unilaterally declared independence, which was rejected by Belgrade as an illegal act of separatism."

ICJ decided otherwise: The independence of Kosova is legal according to international law! It was Belgrade that brought the issue before ICJ, now Belgrade should abide by its ruling and recognize Kosova's independence immediately.



"Serbs in the north, where they are a majority, also did not accept the proclamation ..."

Serbs in the north constitute at most a handful of villages, whose entire total population is probably smaller than a section of Prishtina. If democracy is rule by the numbers, Kosova's independence is supported by 95% of the population, and if Serbia had even a semi-democratic government, it would have recognized Kosova's independence long time ago. But Serbia is having a hard time swallowing the defeat of its imperialistic ambitions, therein lies the problem.
As for the serbs in the north, they should have the same amount of rights as Albanians have in the Presheva valley. If Serbia wants to take N Kosova, it should give up Presheva Valley first.


"In the words of Nikita Kurshchev, "We WILL bury you"

Who did Nikita Krutchev bury exactely? If I remember correctly, he was the president of a country that 30 years later ceased to exist and shattered in a hundreed peices. Like Nikita's threats, today Serbia's bark has no bite. No dear Serbia, you don't have the power to partition Kosova, because if you did, N Kosova would have already been part of Serbia. You were told in no uncertain terms to go and talk to Albanians.

Another war in KosovA will 100% result in KosovA being fully reintegrated within Srbija.....please go ahead and start a war again!!
(Obilic, 2 March 2011)

The most we could lose would be the North of Ibar and the most we could win would be Presheva Valley and a United Albania including Western Macedonia.

As for bringing it we don't have to since we have achieved our ends peacuefully. You can try and bring it but I think you'll regret it big time.

"flawed logic once again": flawed indeed!

You are the chess champion of the tournament in which you were the only player. Congratulations! You may kiss yourself on the cheek.

Kosova's leaders (Rugova, Agani etc.) tried for 10 years to work out the problems peacefully with Serbia, for 10 years they were humiliated to no end. There's is no reason, absolutely none, why North of Ibar should go to Serbia and Presheva Valley not go to Kosova. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right? No double standards, please!

Oh, and the mighty Serbian army: If it was so mighty, KLA would not have been in power today in Prishtina. Otherwise what it was so mighty for?

''Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.
(Peggy, 2 March 2011 21:10) ''

So we either live peacefully inside Serbia or go through another war? Is that what you saing peggy? After all what happened in 1999? ....Albanian people never wanted war, Albanians were only tired of Serbia... we were not the ones to sent tanks to vukovar, we were not the ones to bomb the sarajevo market, also, it is not on the serbian news, but it seems that this time, in the UN session, Jeremic got a reply from the Albanian vice minister, she told him sound and clear that there would be no regional reconcilation unless Serbia apologises for the genocide commited in Kosovo...this week Albanian intelectuals woke up and various sensibilisation activities took place...the time when our corrupt foreign ministers kept their mouth shut are over, Republic of Albania, will not stay quite to serbian propaganda like was done before...

As for the war threats, it is very easy to say ''my country beats the hell out of your country'' on the internet...serbs seem enthusiastic about NATO leaving Kosovo, etc...There will be no war, even if it happens, there is no way Serbia would dare to roll tanks into Kosov, that would mean violation of hundreds of treaties and agreements... also, unlike 1999, there is no international treaty that would stop Albania from intervening, we got a new fleet, new army and the new ifrastructure would make sure we deploy in Kosovo before any serbian tank exit the barrack...it is 2011 not 1999...serbia does not even have an airforce anymore, like 4 planes? which need to be upgraded?

Zoti, The KLA couldn't win a tug-of-war and there is no way that they could fight the Serbian Army. Your KLA was in Albania during the war. They only reason Serbia left Kosovo was because of NATO but don't expect that to happen again, especially after one Kosovo Albanian shoots four American servicemembers killing two. What kind of gratitude is that?
(American Eagle, 2 March 2011)

I don't one Albanian's action reflect the attitude of 6 millions Albanians in the Balkans. Wishful thinking on your part.

As for the winner of war just look at the outcome to determine who's the real winner. You Serbs boasts of your superior army yet you lost all of the Blakan wars of the 90's. Your whol epolitical leadership was tried at the Hague. Some achievement.

Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.
(Peggy, 2 March 2011)

Right because for the almost 100 years Albanians lived under Serb colonial rule life was so peaceful in Kosova.
We did consider it and came to a consluion on February 17, 2008.

Also have you considered why 2 million Albanians have to live under Serbs when 80,000 Serbs cannot live under Albanian rule under no circumstances?

I promise you, Northern Kosovo WILL be the death of the retarded child project called 'kosova'.

Its greed. Had the Albanians accepted Kosovo south of the Ibar they would have had a much better chance to win. It is the greed of our illegal aliens to the South that will be the death of their ambitions.

You cannot realistically believe you can take Northern Kosovo, it is pure insanity. And for that reason, for trying too by force (which I pray you do) you will finally lose.

In the words of Nikita Kurshchev, "We WILL bury you"

Nema Predaje

Another war in the balkans...and both serbia and kosovo officially become the european getto...Serbian army has not the glorious Jugoslav arsenal any more, so this time war might result in skirmishes inside the serbian territory, i were a serb i would not be so enthusiastic aboout a war, no matter how weak Kosovo is , situation is different from 1999, i m against any idea of war, because this might drag also Albania and Bosnia into war, once the fire starts, it can not be stopeed until it burns everything...both albanians and serbs would suffer...both our countries must set a law against mentioning the word ''war'' and the punishment must be no less than 2 years...that is the only way these sick minded bastards learn to control their tounges...

Have to leave my 2 cents here as well...

whats going to happen in a future war... since papa america is bankrupt

Another war in KosovO will 100% result in KosovO being fully reintegrated within Srbija.....please go ahead and start a war again!!

LOL! If it was another war, strictly Serb people, vs Albanian people.. I'm almost positive Serbia would reach northern Albania.

These clowns lost their minds if they think that realistically they can win in a war without outside interference.

We ARE your superiors, and I hope your great minister is correct of another war because that would be the worst thing to ever happen to you.

NEMA PREDAJE!

Would this treat of war also be directed toward the hand that feeds you? As the Kosovo albanians have attached a US Military Bases in New York, and now killed two American Service men in Frankfurt.

Kosovo Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi said in an interview that German police have identified the suspect Arif Uka, a Kosovo citizen."

As Serbs have been educating the world, and slowly opinions have changed because the truth cannot be ignored forever. The truth is that albanians are the most intolerant community in Europe, as terrorists cannot be expected to suddenly change their stripes. The west has tried to ignore this festering albanian problem for far to long.

No partition? OK, so I guess that also goes for the case of Serbia. Remember, Kosovo still is a Serbian province!

"I'm not a Serb and have no Balkan ethnicity in me at all so don't call me a Serb because I disagree with your viewpoint. But what I am saying is true. We are watching Americans die in Iraq and Afghanistan and we, the American people, are disgusted with those two countries we helped out but where we aren't appreciated. If you don't think this will turn American opinion against Kosovo, then you really do have your head in the sand. Not only with the American media talk about Muslim Kosovo, it will also mention the other terrorist the US wants that lives in Mitrovica but can't be extradited to the US because Kosovo hasn't made an extradition treaty with the US. And while they are playing the footage of an American bus with American blood on the the ground, they might show some Christian churches in Kosovo burned down during the 2004 riots along with video footage of Albanians on top of a church tearing down a cross. One Albanian will represent Kosovo in the eyes of the American public."


I don't know why you should "contribute" to this forum by thinking always that your points of view represent the truth. Indeed your represent exactly the point of view of 100% Serbs in here. There is no connection in any way between Kosovo, Ira and Afghanistan. Americans are appreciated all around Albanian areas starting from Albania till Presevo valley for their contribution through our history. Your attempt to represent quite different picture and to draw parallelisms between those countries is disgusting one. In a individual act you involve "Muslim Kosovo" burning of Serbian churches and so one which have nothing to do with the topic and with the reality. Such combination can only support the Serbian propaganda and I am sure you wont find any space for it in US public. Some years ago a south Korean student killed about 27 students in US. Did it change the opinion of American people against Korean people who are so thankful to US as Albanians???? What about 220 Albanian soldiers fighting in Afghanistan or you don't want to mention it. If you have better arguments bring them here and don't polish the Serbian historic propaganda.

Replace in the article Kosovo with Serbia (or Serbia with Kosovo) and suddenly things make more sense. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. No double standards and please stop the useless parroting for it shows that you do not have your own opinion. This threat with violence and even war is just for internal consumption and is a way to express and divert complete incompetence and failure. In case the KLA thugs pass the threshold to overstep their little bit of common sense you can be sure that a painful spank is waiting, followed by another run for Albania and the end of the doomed pet project. Get it into your heads that the Serbs in Kosovo never want to have anything to do with terrorists and criminal thugs. As far as they are concerned they live in the Province of Kosovo and Metohija, part of the Republic of Serbia, a sovereign UN member.

Nothing new really, I bet majority in Kosovo support war if Serbia tries to grab northern part of Kosovo.

I am an American working in Kosovo so that is how I'm well informed about Kosovo and I have seen how your education system works. Repetition with no free thought. That is why you can't accept that I am an American who has seen Albanians and disagrees with their thinking. Your thought that if I disagree with your ideas makes me a Serb comes from what you are taught in school. Listen and obey without thinking and anyone who doesn't agree with you is your enemy. Your thought process is just like this gunman who listened to radicals instead of using reason.
(American Eagle, 3 March 2011)

So you lambast me for making the wrong assumptions about you which according to you are clearly due to my "educational background" and go on to make an assumption about me?

You don't know anything about my educational background. I grew up in Tirana and not in Kosova. I graduted high shcool in Fresno California went to college in NYC, law school in NYC, and currently am in my last semester of my master's in law also in NYC.

So maybe, just maybe, my inability to have a "free thought" stems from my being subjected to the American educational system just like you have as you seem to have the same symptoms I do.

Citing Fox News as your main source of info speaks volume about your ability to have a free thought.

Good day.

''I didn´t really take much care about who it was wrote that nonsense, but talking about Slovenia having " beaten Serbia " in 1991 is just funny.

does this clueless Albanian not read?

does he REALLY believe the Slovenian defeated the (then) yugoslav army in what is now Slovenia?

boy, you make me smile! ''

If you think that serbian helicopters getting shot down is funny, go ahead and smile all you want. Officially and literally, Slovenia won. Yep i do admit though, we albanians, have the weakest army in the whole world...yet the glorious and mightiest serbian army never dared to cross the border, how so? If Albania was so weak, you could have easily invaded and removed UCK camps once and for all ... and we openly admitted that UCK camps were established in Albania and broadcasted the call for duty on satelite radios and TVs around the globe for Kosovo Albanians...but probaly brave serb generals did not watch albanian tv channels, so there is no way they were aware of Albanian's wrongdoing...also , the heavy artelly firing against serbs in koshare, was done from inside albanian borders, and was operated by the FARSH...at that point serbs ran away...they even had no time to drag the bodies of their own comrades, although most of them were russian mercenaries.

Zoti, The KLA couldn't win a tug-of-war and there is no way that they could fight the Serbian Army. Your KLA was in Albania during the war. They only reason Serbia left Kosovo was because of NATO but don't expect that to happen again, especially after one Kosovo Albanian shoots four American servicemembers killing two. What kind of gratitude is that? All Albanian posters better remember this because this terrorist act against the US will be on the American news noting that the shooter was a Kosovo Albanian. Americans will remember this next time you need help.

Another cowboy Albanian making threats. Like always threats coming from albanians are as empty as the wallet of the so called Pristina government. It's not difficult to be tough when you are standing on the other side of the bridge. I think both Europe and America are tired of albanian behaviour in Kosovo and elswhere. Especially after an incident in Frankfurt, Germany, where a kosovo albanian shoot and killed two american soilders and wounded two. Albanian politicians are doing Belgrades job for them. Sooner rather then later Kosovo will return to its rightful owner, Christianity.

Kosovan gunman kill US servicemen
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362247/Two-killed-Frankfurt-airport-shots-fired-near-bus-carrying-soldiers.html

I can't wait to read albanian excuses for this terrorist attack on their main sponsor.
Remember, this is not an isolated incident. Kosovo albanians were also caught planing a terrorist attack on US soil.

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/kosovo-79452-terrorism-pristina.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/17/ethnic-albanian-man-arrested-kosovo-terrorism-charges-following-extradition/

I don't see this as being anything more than macho political posturing.

Let me be completely honest, I truly believe that the only risk to the whole Kosovo independence project can come from a policy of war from Pristina. Whether that is against Serbs or any international forces.

That policy will not be supported by the EU and if any Serbian civilians are killed you can be sure that there will be pressure for Serbian forces to protect Serbs in the North. The Serbian government will do this in conjunction with international factors / forces, although unoficially arms would flow in from Belgrade.

I truly believe its a lose / lose situation from the Albanian perspective. The Kos Albanians have mapped out their political course and have to stick to it. Going it alone now would mean risking defeat.

As for bringing it we don't have to since we have achieved our ends peacuefully. You can try and bring it but I think you'll regret it big time.
(Zoti, 2 March 2011 18:38)
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Hey, you are the ones threatening war not us. Don't threaten before you are sure you have NATO backing. I think this time you won't.

Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.

Hollow threats. Serbia would bury the KLA in another war! 'Nuff Said!

On another note - check out the following link about the US Soldiers
in frankfort who were attacked by
a "kosovar" terrorist today. 1 dead
american, 2 wounded + 1 dead driver.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/02/frankfurt-airport-shooting

This how "kosovars" treat their friends!

I'm not a Serb and have no Balkan ethnicity in me at all so don't call me a Serb because I disagree with your viewpoint. But what I am saying is true. We are watching Americans die in Iraq and Afghanistan and we, the American people, are disgusted with those two countries we helped out but where we aren't appreciated. If you don't think this will turn American opinion against Kosovo, then you really do have your head in the sand. Not only with the American media talk about Muslim Kosovo, it will also mention the other terrorist the US wants that lives in Mitrovica but can't be extradited to the US because Kosovo hasn't made an extradition treaty with the US. And while they are playing the footage of an American bus with American blood on the the ground, they might show some Christian churches in Kosovo burned down during the 2004 riots along with video footage of Albanians on top of a church tearing down a cross. One Albanian will represent Kosovo in the eyes of the American public.
(American Eagle, 3 March 2011)

AE you talk like a Serb, walk like a Serb...well you know the drill.
I must say for an "American" you seem to be well informed on all things Kosova since most Americans I know can't locate Europe on a map let alone Kosova. But you conveniently forget that there hasn't been any violence towards American troops in Kosova while the American Embassy was torched in broad daylight in Belgrade.

Like I've said before this is all wishful thinking on your part. Albanians are the most pro-American ethnic group in Europe and that's not going to change because of the action of one demented youth who fell prey to Islamic fundamentalism.

I must add that he was a German citizen born and raised in Germany. Germany doesn't allow for dual citizenship expect in a few rare cases.

I'm not even going to go into the US "helping out" Iraq and Afghanistan. It seem sir like it is you who has his head bureid in the sand.

@Taylor:
But as far as I'm concerned the Serbs who are detained at the Hague detention center are defeated in the sense they've lost their freedom and if and/or when they're convicted of war crimes certainly that's defeat for them and finally if some Serb troops end up in hell for committing war crimes than they are ultimately on the losing end so to speak.

Anonymous, yes, serbian army is mighty, content? Yet...if Slovenia could literally beat Serbia in early 90s...and believe me, there is no way Serbian army of 2011 is as mighty as Jugoslav army was in 1990s...when Slovenia won the battle, embargo had not started yet, and still you almost let your soldiers starve , Jugoslav army strategy was so outstanding that could not even transport bread from point A to point point B, i mean, how can you expect someone to fight a war with an empty stomach ... At least, our ''transport helicopters'' would never do such a stupid mistake... mig 35 ? yeah, but you don't have them yet...our military program was to get 30 f-16s as well, but they seemed expensive and not worth the effort since greece is the only balkan country having a proper airforce, and now, in theory greece is our ally...for 20 years, serbian pilots failed to fly mig 29 properly...Albanian Army is the most outdated army in the balkans, but our 150mm artilery can hit the target, and there is no armour that can endure a shell like that, and our light tanks and apc-s can roll around the mountains and bad terrain easily, you know koshare? our poorly equiped soldiers are outstanding in projectile physics, ask greeks, they felt our guns go live in 1996 when their ship ''accidentaly'' entered our waters and ''accidentaly'' lost 4 sailors...yes, our planes stood no chance against mig-29, but still forced italians to change all their radar system in late 90s, still i doubt serbia had many migs, ...btw is it true that gedafi's pilots bombing protesters were serbs? Did you know that many ww2 allied pilots commited suicide after seeing german and japanese cities turned to rubble?...You see, no matter how badly equiped our army might be, but all i know is that, our artillery would never hit a market full of people, even by mistake.

Well I wonder how keen U.S. airforce will be this time around on supporting Kosovo Albanians after one of them just killed 2 of them today in Germany:

Kosovo National Kills 2 US Soldiers at German Airport
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/17678/46/

I'm all for a functional partition but not a formal one unless it includes all of the former-YU. Partition may very well open the can of worms.

Now back to reality, KiM Albanians will have to accept less than independence while Serbia will have to accept more than autonomy if any kind of negotiations can bring long lasting peace. If everyone has just enough to keep them happy then they won't risk losing it with another way.

The greed of attempting to get everything may very well mean losing everything. I agree with you there Nikola. The North is firmly in Serbian hands and Pristina attempting to force control over it would also mean war. Read Wikileaks, it has already been mentioned there.

True negotiations is the only path to a just compromise and lasting peace. The window of opportunity is still open so better use it before it closes.

Zoti,

have you heard of republika srpska? and who lost, the serbs - haha, yah right that is why banja luka exists. And Serbia itself never even fought, had it fought everyone would've been defeated just like the turks, the austrians, the hungarians, the croats, the mulsims, the albanians in WWI and WWII, the germans, the italians, NATO and America.

They all lost to the Serbs and you are losing again, you just don't see it yet...

Serbia actually has an army much more modernized than that of Albania. It has 300 modernized main battle tanks, countless Infantry Fighting Vehicles modernized, over one thousand pieces of artillery, and 40,000 proffesional forces with the newest Assault rifle the M-21. Serbia also has over 200 aircraft in its airforce ad is buying 30 new fighter jets most likely the Jas-Gripen 39 or Mig-35. Albania has no airforce whatsoever, it only has a dozen transport helicopters. it doesnt even have any tanks all of the t-55s that it had were scrapped and the 60 t-62s that they bought from east germany were sold. Albania really has no miliatry equipment and from what I know its not looking to purchase any new fighters or tanks which are the backbone of any military. And please dotn flatter yourself with your far-fetched dreams that Albania could defeat Serbia in a war, because you know that it would be impossible. Let the Kosovo Albanians start a war because it will be game over for them. I would love for them to be the ones to start the war so serbia could finish them off once and for all.


Have you heard something about NATO??? As you might know Albania is member of alliance so we don't need to have much military hardware. Well with e debt of some billion of Euro like Serbia we could buy pretty new tanks, airplanes or whatever.

Pure rhetoric and tough talk from a narco-official of an unrecognized narco-state with no economy and a token force armed with pistols, hunting rifles, jeeps and NO ARMY

This clown better think where he was in 1999-with organ trade looming over albanian heads and albanians killing US soldiers..they better start kissing some hinds or dancing like they did for gadhafi.The future of albanians looks like hell from now on..

LOL! If it was another war, strictly Serb people, vs Albanian people.. I'm almost positive Serbia would reach northern Albania.

These clowns lost their minds if they think that realistically they can win in a war without outside interference.

We ARE your superiors, and I hope your great minister is correct of another war because that would be the worst thing to ever happen to you.

NEMA PREDAJE!
(Nikola, 2 March 2011 19:16)

I don't care that you are Serbian, but you'd have to be pretty sick to WANT war, especially an ethnic one.

So it appears that Hysa has succeeded in the mission which his Belgrade paymasters set him, to ensure that Kosova is seen as belligerent and unpredictable. Anyone who knows this bohemian pacifist, who has spent his entire life running errands for Surroi and taking money from Kosova's enemies, will regard his statements as ridiculous. War is too noble a word to pass from his mouth. Kosova must be cleansed of traitors or she will surely die.

PRIŠTINA -- A Kosovo Albanian member of the Kosovo police, KPS, recently committed suicide, and wrote a suicide note, media in Priština are reporting.

Luan Ademaj reportedly wrote that pressure that the Priština-based Kosovo government officials exerted on him to allow smuggling was the reason to take his own life, Albanian language daily Koha Ditore writes on Wednesday.

In the letter that the paper had seen, Ademaj wrote that he was placed under pressure of the Kosovo officials involved in smuggling, but did not mention their names or the names of any companies.

The 37-year-old was in charge of a border crossing with Montenegro, and committed suicide in February.

Isn't that a great "country" or what?

"Kosovan gunman kill US servicemen ...
I can't wait to read albanian excuses for this terrorist attack on their main sponsor. "
(MikeC, 2 March 2011 20:22)

Yeah, somehow strange that this incident in Frankfurt where a (supposedly) Kosovo Albanian killed two US soldiers based in Germany isn't a topic here yet. Let's hope it will the US of A make think about what people they are supporting. What will follow next? Attacks on US soldiers in Kosovo?

arti style this time:
"If democracy is rule by the numbers, Kosova's independence is supported by 95% of the population, and if Serbia had even a semi-democratic government, it would have recognized Kosova's independence long time ago"

Yes, so again if democracy is rule by number, then 80% of serbia's citizens in the year 2006 wanted Kosovo to stay within Serbia. So, since you obviously refuse to use this axiom, you cannot use its corolory.
if Kosovo's leaders were at all semi-democratic they would not have split off, but rather worked out their problems. If Kosovo's leadership was at all semi-democratic they would be the "bigger" man and allow NMitro to leave without having to play barganing games -- I mean the true democratic nation (sponsored by the "greatest" democratic nations in the world) would not play such childish games.
so...
when you start on the wrong foot, every subsequent step is wrong too.
trace your arguments back to their logical origin and work from there, not some magical logic free zone where you choose to start arguing.
check and mate.

RE: "War"

He also believes there can be no peaceful partition, and added that "any division of territory would mean war, and I'm sure everyone's had enough of bloodshed".

That is the stupidest statement any Kosovo politician can make for a backward, impoverished region that cannot support itself.

Even the downgraded Serbian army will roll over Kosovo in a matter of hours, not days, hours. If Albania proper and FYROM elements also want to get involved, they will also be erased from the map. NATO is not going to send planes again to support a KLA run terrorist government.

Partition is the only viable solution or the status quo, a unrecognized European protectorate completely funded by the IMF.

1st of april has not arrived yet... anyway it looks like the 1st of april is an every day business in the dream land !
Time to put Agim as president !

Hisa! Serbian Troops are within range of Kosovo province. The KLA can easily be crushed / defeated by the Serbian Army. Thanks to your WESTERN Masters your illegal institution still exists. Serbs in North will never accept this so called Kosovo government.

''Have you heard something about NATO??? As you might know Albania is member of alliance so we don't need to have much military hardware. Well with e debt of some billion of Euro like Serbia we could buy pretty new tanks, airplanes or whatever.
(Endri, 3 March 2011 23:36) ''

Endri, we already are spending to much on defence, we are building 5 new ships in Vlora which cost more than several hundred tanks...we are getting the most expensive helicopters on the market ''so to improve relations with french''...if you asked me we should have taken second hand US helicopters and aircraft..we have raised our expenditures up to 4%...NATO commitment is costing us dearly, instead of selling our old arsenal, we are spending even more to destroy them and even more to replace them with expensive NATO weapons...if you ask me, we should have gone on with our treaties with China, they still respect us and busines is business, and chinese, since 90s, are producing outstanding stuff and cheap as well... When berisha went to china, high rank chinese leaders there were pretty affectionate with him , which is weird considering berisha's speeches about communism, and our modest international position...but if we remember, although offically we broke relations with china in 1978, we recieved weapons and stuff until 1996, and even at that time berisha was in power...aside the supspicion that i have, i doubt our army is as outdated as it seems, despite of political problems in Albania, we joined NATO quite fast, which by nato standarts means we are able to provide protection for ourselves...well, it is a military org afterall..yet, i m just speculating. It feels good to see footage of our boys trainig though.

"NATO membership only works in case a country gets attacked by another country outside the alliance. Not if a NATO member itself starts a war."

I never said that Albania is going to start any war and involve NATO. Moreover I don't recall such case when Albanian ever started a war with any country around us. If Albania for obvious reason (according to some Serbian commentators here) is attacked by superpower "Serbima" then the situation could be different. God day!

Zoti,

I'm not a Serb and have no Balkan ethnicity in me at all so don't call me a Serb because I disagree with your viewpoint. But what I am saying is true. We are watching Americans die in Iraq and Afghanistan and we, the American people, are disgusted with those two countries we helped out but where we aren't appreciated. If you don't think this will turn American opinion against Kosovo, then you really do have your head in the sand. Not only with the American media talk about Muslim Kosovo, it will also mention the other terrorist the US wants that lives in Mitrovica but can't be extradited to the US because Kosovo hasn't made an extradition treaty with the US. And while they are playing the footage of an American bus with American blood on the the ground, they might show some Christian churches in Kosovo burned down during the 2004 riots along with video footage of Albanians on top of a church tearing down a cross. One Albanian will represent Kosovo in the eyes of the American public.

Yes, the news feeds off misery and likes to put out these kinds of stories. If you ever get a chance to watch Fox News, you will see what I am talking about.
(American Eagle)

The same network that calls Obama both a communist and a fascist, a Stalin and a Hitler? Now it all explains your depply anti-Islamic behavior.

Well AE Albanians don't care much for religion. Arif Uka is represetnative of the Albanian community as much as Timothy McVeigh was representative of the Christian America.

the abanians better be careful because there will be no world help this time they did nothing in the other war ,the world did but the world are fed up with albanian lies and terrorism against america in the past and today in germany.

Militarily, KiM is no match for the VS in terms of troops and firepower. But that isin't the point. Warmongers like this man don't care about anyone but their own political/monetary gain and they have gained so much thanks to NATO they bark pretty loud standing behind they pitbull guardians. One day the pitbull will get tired of the barking and let the wolf attack you.

Iliri,

Maybe the Kosovo Albanian people did not want war, but the KLA and NATO wanted war and the majority of the Kosovo Albanians supported or were sympathetic to the KLA (and NATO) so draw your own conclusion. What genocide was committed in Kosovo? Regarding violations of many treaties I can say the following: the Kosovo Albanians and some Western countries have perfected that skill and so why should Serbia stick to all kinds of agreements that have no meaning because one side does not respect them anyway. Remember UNSC 1244? It is still valid. I do not believe that Albania would be so silly to intervene in Kosovo if Serbia has no other choice but to come to the aid of Serbs north of the Ibar River. Just keep up the tough talk, keep bluffing and keep believing in your deeply embedded lies.

"He also believes there can be no peaceful partition, and added that "any division of territory would mean war, and I'm sure everyone's had enough of bloodshed".

Somehow funny to hear those words coming from an official of a self-proclaimed 'state' that has been created by a (not so peaceful) partition/split off.

just another stupid man who threatens with war, actually as soon as an Albanian is threatening with war, or " hell will break loose" and similar nonsense, it is an indicator for their nervousness.

they know very well that they would not be able to defend themselves against the only legitimate army on serbian territory.

and since K-albanians like this idiot over there in Germany who killed to G.I´s at the Frankfurt-Airport are even biting the hand that feeds them...

Serbia will prevail even faster.

let´s just see what future brings!

Well I suppose Hisa can say whatever he wants concerning partition that everyone outside Pristina recognizes as de facto, if not an inconvenient truth. But truth be told, there's little the international community is going to do short of verbal protests if northern Kosovo continues to function (quite successfully) off Pristina's grid, and I sincerely doubt any Albanian official in Pristina is going to sound the call to war and basically be this decade's Milosevic. Kosovo has no army to speak of, and any expectation the international community will once again give them what they can't achieve on their own is wishful thinking now that KFOR has reduced its troops to 5000. I also see statements like this as a sign that Pristina knows what's to come in these talks, and that is in some form or another they're going to be forced to accept that the north will remain out of their control indefinitely. I don't see formal territorial partition in the cards, but I do believe Belgrade can very well convince the international community to put pressure on Pristina accepting Belgrade's formal control of the north and heavy influence over the other Serb enclaves in exchange for removing any institutional and diplomatic obstacles to Kosovo's international integration. Thus "partition" comes at a price of internal division instead of redrawing formal borders.

As far as some posters here thinking Presevo over even western Macedonia will somehow fall into the equation, I would be curious to know how these two topics are relevant to the negotiations over Kosovo.

So if the Serbs in Northern Kosovo continue to demand self rule and actually break away to return to Serbia, they are threatening war? LOL, WOW! Attack, bring it, fight! That's like me threatening to beat up Bruce Lee or Mike Tyson for his lunch money. Oh how I would love to see Kosovo do something so stupid. Maybe they think the US will fight for them again, nothing like being the tiny scrawny kid threatening people while having black belt bodyguards to fight your battles. Well the US won't help you this time.

Why do the Albanians want the Serbs anyway? You broke apart to get away, so why do you care if the Serbs leave? Wouldn't that work better? We all know there will never be peace and integration there. Kosovo was Serbia before declaring their independence, the Serbs in the northern part did not want it and did not declare it, therefore they should not have to break away.

Really, it's just the K-Albs wanting all of Kosovo under their control, then getting rid of the Serbs that are there. Oh, they'll lie and claim the Serbs chose to leave and any other lie they have told over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again until it became 'truth' in their world. The truth is they will force them out. So why even wait for all that, looks like K-Albs have grown a set so go ahead and declare war already. The Serbs are salivating for you. No NATO, no outside help. Just one on one.

Another Albanian big mouth trying to make a name for himself in the domestic political market. There is an old saying – it’s all p… and wind.

(Flamur)

The right people now have comprehensive evidence of Ylber Hysa's anti-Kosova activities and will take action on it. Very shortly we will not have to worry about this individual working against our national interest.

Well, you are wrong. There will be partition, and KAlbs should want that too. It is clear that Serbia will never be able to reintegrate the entirety of Kosovo, nor would all Serbs living in Kosovo ever peacefully accept Kosovo as their state. Thus, partition is a very good option; it's the only option. KAlbs, why would you want to force Serbs to live in an Albanian Kosovo when you didn't want to live in Serbia? Obviously that doesn't make sense whatsoever. If there is war, it will be because some Kosovo Albanian representatives want to force Serbs whom don't wish to live under Albanian rule to live under Kosovo Albanian rule.

It is ok. 'ben' no capitals will happily have this traitor eliminated*, along with quite a few other albanian posters here who also express the view that any albanian that isn't signed up Thaci and co. should be slaughtered (and we are not just talking PDK here). Glad to see such faith in your own deeply corrupted political processes. So far from God and even further away from Europe.

*As he as expressed in comments on other comment threads, though it may take him some time to beat such a person to death with his keyboard and only maybe if they are a) dead already, b) asleep or c) otherwise already incapacitated.

''You are talking about Albania for starters, not Kosovo province of Serbia. There is no reason for Serbia and Albania to have a war.
Kosovo is Serbia's internal problem and has no impact on Albania whatsoever. ''

Please, spare that ''internal'' problem which has no ''impact'' on Albania...Albanians outside the border are our brothers and sisters, we would never abandone them and let them get slaughtered again like it happened in 1944 and 1999...if something happens again, this time we will act, border is not controled by serbs like in 1999, this is 2011 and all we have to do, is remove the albanian coat of arms from our soldiers' uniforms, and replace them with that fierce lion coat of arms that internationals designed for us, this way officially Albania will not have to fight the war...also we have enough guns to arm millions of people ...sheer numbers are a quality in itself said comrade stalin once upon a time ago...Kosovo Albanians are not 2 million , now they are 6 millions...(i think E.Hoxha said this last line, yeah he also told us to make as many children back then) anyway, i can't understand serbian menthality, sovreignity is not some ultimate power that allows the ''sovreign state'' to do as it wishes with the people living inside the ''sovreign''borders, and claim that what ever happens inside ''sovreign borders'' is no other state's business...once a state of some country aims guns to its own citizens , the legitimacy of that state is questioned...even russia, when dealing with chechens, didn't go around ethnicaly cleansing muslims , and they fought only and only the rebels, yeah they shelled the hell out of Grozni, but those are russian standarts not european standarts, and russia is one hell of a super power which could care less what the rest of world thinks anyway...but, let us see other similar european conflicts, northen ireland for instance,IRA has killed many policemen, and even inocent civilians, but english do not sent there tanks and ''white eagles'' to punish the rebels, they negotiated and talked...Fyrom, for instance, Albanians there, rebeled, but fyromians did not go around kill women and children...so, willingly or not, both albanians and fyromians sat around the table and talked, not that they solved all the problems, but at least they quit the war...

I don't think the point is that the KLA army joke can beat the VS when all they have to do is start another war in FYROM (directly or via franchise). In effect they would be blackmailing Brussels and DC that if they don't get what they want, the whole Balkan Stability Pact will go down the toilet. Time have changed though and stabbing one so-called allies in the back would be extremely dangerous...

I didn´t really take much care about who it was wrote that nonsense, but talking about Slovenia having " beaten Serbia " in 1991 is just funny.

does this clueless Albanian not read?

does he REALLY believe the Slovenian defeated the (then) yugoslav army in what is now Slovenia?

boy, you make me smile!

by the way, ...I think the Slovenians are even stronger than the Albanians, in terms of military and RELEVANT manpower.

last but not least:

the serbian army is in fact far away from 1991, because it´s just about to transform into a highly effective army of specialists.

what will make them even more effective in the future, so, don´t you even dream of having a chance against Serbia, in case the Albanians should be so stupid to start another war!

KiM will be re-integrated, but I think that will happen without a single shot fired.

so, all these phrases posted by our dear k-albanian friends are not more than proof of their helpless situation.

they don´t know what will be with them, since the greater albanian project has already failed, and the "kosovaaahhh"-joke will end miserably, too.

just a question of time, actually.

I guess the Albanians have a case in their military/soldiers being superior.

Check the link below...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM7EcZ4_4Gc&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dserbian%2B%2Bvs%2Balbanian%26aq%3Df&has_verified=1

''Ever considered that your people are tired of war and are more ready to live peacefully inside Serbia than go through another war? Consider it.
(Peggy, 2 March 2011 21:10) ''

So we either live peacefully inside Serbia or go through another war? Is that what you saing peggy?
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No, and you know it.
Your mate is saying that Serbs better live inside Kosovo under Albanian rule or there will be war and all I am saying is that perhaps K-Albanians are tired of all this war talk and would rather just go back to the way it was.

Why do you people constantly try to twist my words?
Could it be because you have no argument so you have to ask the questions you want to provide for even though they have not been asked?

Endri,

Read my comments correctly and you will see my point. I wasn't comparing Afghanistan, Iraq and Kosovo. I was stating that the American public doesn't like to see the loss of American life for countries that don't appreciate our sacrifices. This gunman in Germany, the unextraditable Albanian in Mitrovica, the Albanians involved in the Fort Dix plot, and now another Albanian in Maryland who was mad at the US for American's supposedly killing his family in the Kosovo bombings all paints a very bad image of Kosovo. Yes, the news feeds off misery and likes to put out these kinds of stories. If you ever get a chance to watch Fox News, you will see what I am talking about. And if you read the other news sites, you will see what I am talking about. USA Today, a major US newspaper, had the headline "Prosecutors: 'Islamism' may have spurred shooting of U.S. airmen" while the New York Daily News had the headline "Suspect in custody after allegedly killing two U.S. airmen in attack after ‘Allah Akbar’ shout". The papers are even including references to the "White Al-Qaeda" or European Muslims capable of these types of attacks. This is what the American public reads and what they base their opinions off of, not your assumption that all Albanians love Americans and that Americans know this. The majority of Americans don't know where Kosovo is or why we are here so this will form their opinions as would the videos that the news services will show of the Albanians burning churches and tearing down Christian crosses. This is not Serbian propoganda but fact. If it didn't happen, then it would be propoganda.

"I am sure you wont find any space for it in US public." Don't make assumptions about matters you don't have any knowledge about or you will end up being proven wrong. We didn't assume that Kosovo Albanians would be attacking us after we saved their hides. Putting 220 Albanian soldiers in Afghanistan doesn't mean anything when they are in the safer provinces and away from the 90,000 American soldiers who are put in the dangerous provinces.

Zoti,

Read my comments to Endri that just posted. I am an American working in Kosovo so that is how I'm well informed about Kosovo and I have seen how your education system works. Repetition with no free thought. That is why you can't accept that I am an American who has seen Albanians and disagrees with their thinking. Your thought that if I disagree with your ideas makes me a Serb comes from what you are taught in school. Listen and obey without thinking and anyone who doesn't agree with you is your enemy. Your thought process is just like this gunman who listened to radicals instead of using reason.

Another war? The war never ended, it only change forms. How can the war end while people are occupying Serbian land?

When Turkey occupied our land, the war continued for 500 years, until Serbs finally drove them out.

The occupiers will be lucky if they can keep any part of Kosovo.

@Iliri
Serbia actually has an army much more modernized than that of Albania. It has 300 modernized main battle tanks, countless Infantry Fighting Vehicles modernized, over one thousand pieces of artillery, and 40,000 proffesional forces with the newest Assault rifle the M-21. Serbia also has over 200 aircraft in its airforce ad is buying 30 new fighter jets most likely the Jas-Gripen 39 or Mig-35. Albania has no airforce whatsoever, it only has a dozen transport helicopters. it doesnt even have any tanks all of the t-55s that it had were scrapped and the 60 t-62s that they bought from east germany were sold. Albania really has no miliatry equipment and from what I know its not looking to purchase any new fighters or tanks which are the backbone of any military. And please dotn flatter yourself with your far-fetched dreams that Albania could defeat Serbia in a war, because you know that it would be impossible. Let the Kosovo Albanians start a war because it will be game over for them. I would love for them to be the ones to start the war so serbia could finish them off once and for all.

Peggy, let me answer your last post...the person in this article, fist time i hear about him, is an imbecile, but balkans, by default , is run by imbeciles...the current Kosovo borders are the same borders Serbia established in 1974, Albanians had nothing to do with it, so if you want to blame someone, blame serbian communistis for giving us an autonomous region with these borders...yeah, Kosovo was not a republic, we all know that bla bla interniatoal law bla bla kosovo je serbija etc etc, but you can not erase the events of 1990-1999 by magic, yeah we all know it was a bizarre consiparicy, how Thaci killed 10 000 albanians and blamed Milosevic, how all qaeda helped albanians create a marxist state which cultivates drugs etc etc and how the state is run by cosa nostra and jihadist, even if all of this is true, there is no way Serbian army will step in Kosovo ever again, that would mean another balkan war, it is like asking croatians to become a jugoslav republic again, even if beograd promises to build streets with gold...so please, before even trying to figure out what the problem is , stick that ''kosovo is serbia'' out of your head and compromise a little bit more when thinking to yourself, try to put youself in the the shoes of a person who actually lives there, this is not an issue what albanians of albania (my self i am from albania) or what serbs of serbia want, this is about what the ones living in kosovo want, and if it does not suit belgrade and tirana, than all is good...well, if i were a kosovo serb, i would never accept the fact that Albanians run the country and i would act exactly the same way mitrovica serbs do, so, if i were a kosovo official, i would know this better, i would not cut the energy, or the telephone for serbs livinng there, if we look back , wasn't this what we albanians did in 1990s? Didn't Albanians refuse to pay taxes and instead pay them to Rugova gov etc?...so let them not pay the bills , actually as far as i know, serbs there are paying taxes to Beograd, so i don't see why serbs have to suffer uneccessary pressure from pristina, it is a problem between the two governments, and that is why the talks should start as soon as possible...yep, ok, kosovo is run by thugs who need to get taxes to cover their budget, but isn't any country of balkans run by thugs? Of course we know that bla bla Kosovo leaders are all corrupt maphia organ harvesters and drug dealers. Don't you serbs understand that Albanians there would rather be governed by thugs and organ harvesters in pristina than see serbian police and tanks around, and listen to speeches of beograd leaders about 1389 every year? (btw, balshajs of albania fought by lazar side in that battle as well, but i guess this is not in history books as albanians didn't exist before 17th century) And please don't start saying how unemplyment is 70% etc, because, even if it is 70%, in 90s it used to be 90% which was worse...acturally albanians in kosovo would rather have a famine than be governed by beograd, sad but true...so things will never be ''like they used to'' as you propose peggy...yet, practically Serbia has anexed north of iber, but this is not the main problem now, Kosovo has many other prolems, such as economy, unemplyoment, organised crime, international reckognition...but what will happen when Kosovo manages to enter UN in a decade or so? Things will be different, and Serbia better hurry up in talks before that happens...

Both our politicans need to view the situation more practically, and respond to people needs more efficiently.If i were a Kosovo governer or minsiter, i would not mind mitrovica so much, no need to panic so much about it, i don't agree with Rexhepi to deploy Kosovo police there, i would not care much which police is there, even if serbian police is deployed there, actually i would even ask serbian police (not the army) to take care of public order there and even let them in gracanica, you know, the same way Germany did iin world cup 2006, and when the Kosovo enters UN ask them nicely to remove their Serbian badge, and replace it with the Kosovo badge...my point is that, both Beograd and Pristina are playing like mice and cats, trying to impress the masses and keeping the situation tense, in this manner, the Kosovo entrance to UN is postponed, the solution of interethnic issues is postponed, the economical improvement is postponed, the fight against organised crime is postponed, the international presence is elongated, consequently, corruption is elongetaed, the serbian EU integration is postponed...and who benefits? Only and only politicans of course. How about the people who live there?

The occupiers will be lucky if they can keep any part of Kosovo.
(Crna Ruka, 3 March 2011 21:24)

Allow me my friend to tell you that KOSOVA is gone for good from Serbia.

The occupiers will be lucky if they can keep any part of Kosovo.
(Crna Ruka, 3 March 2011 21:24

Crna Ruka,

The only occupiers in Kosova are the few Serb MUP and paramilitaries hiding there under old women's skirts in North Mitrovica . They will be removed after negotiations, beginning this week, are concluded.

K. Albanian official warns of war... Please don't write checks that the Bank of NATO might not cash...

Have you heard something about NATO??? As you might know Albania is member of alliance so we don't need to have much military hardware. Well with e debt of some billion of Euro like Serbia we could buy pretty new tanks, airplanes or whatever.
(Endri, 3 March 2011 23:36)
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You are talking about Albania for starters, not Kosovo province of Serbia. There is no reason for Serbia and Albania to have a war.
Kosovo is Serbia's internal problem and has no impact on Albania whatsoever.

Also, Albania cannot dictate to NATO and tell it to attack any country just because it doesn't like what is going on in that country. When are you Albanians going to realise that Albania is a separate country and has nothing to do with Serbia or Kosovo? It cannot make any decisions over there.

BTW when have you seen a tail wag the dog?

"Allow me my friend to tell you that KOSOVA is gone for good from Serbia."

black hand


That's what the turks once said.

SHAME ON YOU Mister.
Shame on all who call and talk about
a new war, on both sides! This is so disgusting.

arti, why didn't your response include the topic? why shift over to who tried hard to do what? why not leave it where you started? using an argument that is based upon populations and percentages of a population, and the "wishes" of said overwhelming majority?
your latest attempt to sound clever has you switching topics all together. you've utterly abondoned the original point. is this how you try to debate a point? when someone stands up and demonstrates your errors you switch to something else, never conceeding.
at no point did i mention rugova, or how hard he tried, for how long he tried, and or why serbia did or did not try reciprically.
when you start by saying 95% of kosovo (a subset of serbia then and on some sort of technical psuedo for still (but not really -- not the point though)), which is 25% of serbia, then a 100% of kosovo is minority vote in serbia. but, if you start saying 100% of presevo, while not allowing for 100% of nmitro then your are being hypocritical.
secondly, who said that there needs to be a "fair" trade? seeing how kosovo left without the majority approval of serbia, nmitro can leave without the majority approval of kosovo, but serbia doesn't need to offer presevo in return. serbia can still function with presevo within its borders, can kosovo function with nmitro within its? considering that serbia has spent a massive amount of the past 20 years under sanctions and kosovo's leaders have been given much international financial support for the past while, which it has not trickled down to the people it would seem that where functionality is concerned serbia has a good position. if kosovars want a functioning state, and not massive land grab, if they truely believed in their democracy then nmitro would long ago have been traded for peace.
arti and the ilk seem to be hell bent on winning some imaginary prize. peace is not their goal, nor is prosperity nor stability. when you learn to argue from logical perspective, remove yourself from feelings then you will see that it is this behaviour that is causing as many problems as you blame others of doing.

If it comes to a war; Theres no way the VS are going to be beaten. Russia are stronger, and far more supportive of Serbia then they were 12 Years ago, should they not send troops themselves, they'd definitely prevent any kind of intervention like we saw last time, and considering some of the headlines we've had in recent months, there would probably be calls for Americans to back the Serbs.

The Serbian govt would certainly have learnt their lessons from the past and (like the Bosniaks and Albanians did during the 90s) hire a western public relations firm; to ensure that the kind of propoganda campaign we had during the last two wars from the Muslim/Albanian side doesnt come to fruitian.

Another would be to ban paramilitary units, and merge the soldiers into groups under control of the govt. While Arkans Tigers and the White eagles had been dispanded and their members relocated to the JSO in 1999, the Scorpions were not, I'd estimate that there'd be half the number of Albanian civilian casulties if they were'nt there.

Well, well sounds like the pot is calling the kettel black.

Mr.Hisa threat of war will get him nowhere.
At Present time Kosovo is under supervise independence by UNMIK and EU,its not sovereign state.It can not become sovereign state without approval of UNSC and Serbia.Serbian soldiers are in control of Kosovo international borders not Kosovo Albanians.As far as Northern Kosovo is concern EULEX and Serbia are keeping that volatile situation under control.Warmongers should be kept on the tight leash by EULEX and KFOR.Mr Hisa and people like you should learn how to live in peace with your neighbors,or your future is pretty bleak in that region.
Kosovo Albanians should be grateful to UNMIK,EULEX and other International
organizations for their decade+ efforth
to bring civility,respect for human kind
law and order in Kosovo.Its hard if not impossible to create something better from terrorists,drugs dealers,human smugglers and now most despecable,
gruesome, of all crimes killing people and selling their organs.

(Endri, 3 March 2011 23:36)
NATO membership only works in case a country gets attacked by another country outside the alliance. Not if a NATO member itself starts a war.

@Anonymous:

You probably are going to find this laughable but if I was in a situation where I was familiar with an Albanian person(s) who I find to be rather decent and someone I'm personally able to connect with and if I was in a situation where I'm familiar with a Serb(s) even an Albanian(s) who has in essence unappealing characteristics and if I get the opportunity to do certain things for an innocent Albanian person(s) that I don't intend to do for the Serb(s) even the Albanian(s) who ain't so innocent than therefore I feel I've inflicted "defeat" against the Serb(s) even Albanian(s) who I'm complaining about.