Independence Day marked in part of Bosnia

For those of us who remember the war in Bosnia, this alliance stands for one thing only, and that is hypocrisy. Some of the bloodiest battles in Bosnia were in places such as Mostar where the croats and the bosnian muslims killed each other unchecked. This was the secret war in bosnia which was covered up beautifully by the western media.

The only good thing about the Bosnian civil war is that it is over. Too many people died for dubious reasons. We must stop trying to conquer each other and concentrate on conquering ourselves. That is how true peace is formed. MIR

They say a camel is actually a horse but designed by a committee. What is the point of BiH?
One side celebrates a public holiday while the other does not and even the Croats are now distancing themselves from the original referendum because they want a third entity that recognizes Croats. If BiH is not a camel then I don’t know what is. Let it fall apart and then you might have some real peace.

If we continue to play our cards right, Re-integration with Serbia Day will be celebrated in all of BiH by the end of this decade.

Very soon Kosovo and Albania will celebrate together.

-Very soon Kosovo and Albania will celebrate together.-
ivan

Yeah, they have so much to be proud off. Great athleates (NO), soon to be joining the EU (HAA!), human trafficing(YES), drug dealing (ABSOLUTELY) and whithe schengen (NO).

By the way, since when is ivan an albanians name? Are you ashamed to write your own? Albanians used to use Western names on this site, now they use Serbian/Croatian names. How low!

They say a camel is actually a horse but designed by a committee. What is the point of BiH?
One side celebrates a public holiday while the other does not and even the Croats are now distancing themselves from the original referendum because they want a third entity that recognizes Croats. If BiH is not a camel then I don’t know what is. Let it fall apart and then you might have some real peace.
(sj, 1 March 2011 12:10)

If that is the case, and all of you speak slavik language, then what is your thoughts on Kosova and serbia being together , since they have nothing in comon??? Honest answer, and don't lecture me about Kosova being the craddle of Serbia since you guys are looking only for northern Mitro. Waiting for an answer.

(Agim Kelmendi, 1 March 2011 17:58)

You asked for an honest answer and here it is. Yes, Serbs recognize Kosovo as their cradle of civilization, but this is an emotional connection to the region.
I would accept your argument if history, paleontology and archeology supports your statement, but if the Albanians were in Kosovo for centuries prior to the Serbs, as claimed, then where is that evidence? As I have stated before there is evidence of Turkish occupation after 1389. There is evidence of Serb occupation with plenty of churches and other buildings, but there is not even a cave painting that represents Albanian occupation. In fact, the majority Albanians lay claim to the region because they are decedents of the mythical “Illyrians”.
No doubt intermarriage with locals can give credence to some claims that they may have “Illyrian” blood, as my ancestors were born in an area very close to a Roman cemetery and chances are I may have some Italian blood. However, that does not give me carte blanche to claim Rome.
Albanians never held Kosovo even during the Turkish occupation. Tito was the only one that gave the Albanians self-governing rights in Kosovo to counteract “Serbian Chauvinism” as he called it, but it’s funny that during times of crises Tito would first send additional troops to Kosovo even though the crises might be on the Yugoslav/Italian border. Albanians have lived in Kosovo in the past, but not in the large numbers we have today. Most are decedents from refugees since 1945.
Your argument on speaking the same Slavic language as the Bosniaks and Croats is rather shallow as you only have to look at Iraq where they speak the same language and the majority are of the same religion but they don’t get on.
Albanians tolerate no one. There are still Croats and Bosniaks living in Serbia, and I can understand your people ethnically cleansing the Serbs, but they have done this to Turks, Moslem Roma and Croats etc. It’s also very funny that one technical issue in the upcoming talks between Belgrade and Pristina is to seek free movement for Kosovo Albanians to look for work in the rest of Serbia.
If the Serbs persecuted all the Albanians in Kosovo then how can they go and work for Serbs????? I wouldn’t. In fact in July 2010 there was a group of Albanians from Kosovo who went to Kragujevac looking for work and they claimed they were from Bujanovac. The persecuted spoke fluent Serbian.
Now as socialism/communism was defeated in 1989, and the EU/US is now broke can you tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? What industry does it have? What strategies are in place by Pristina to attract the same to Kosovo?
Now be honest. No rhetoric about living off freedom or fresh air.

"Very soon Kosovo and Albania will celebrate together.
(ivan, 1 March 2011 17:05) "

Ya in the twilight zone!

Can the editors here or anybody else enlighten us as to how the decentralization model in Bosnia compares to the level of decentralization in Belgium?Are the French and Dutch institutionally closer than the Serbs and Muslims/Croats?

@Mike C

Ivan is our dear Croatian neighbor.

Btw. there is no consent among the three ethnic communities in Bosnia and Herzegovina which holidays should be non-working. March 1st is one of the disputed holidays about which agreement is hardly possible to happen.

@sj

you didn't answer his question.

He asked "what do they have in common (now)", not "please give me some tiresome history lesson"

If we continue to play our cards right, Re-integration with Serbia Day will be celebrated in all of BiH by the end of this decade.
(highduke, 1 March 2011 12:31)

Rather than fantasise about mediaeval empires, let's stick with what's legal (Kosmet) and realistic (Srpska). I think Serbia can manage quite nicely without Mostar.

He asked "what do they have in common (now)", not "please give me some tiresome history lesson"
(Danilo, 2 March 2011 14:09)

Commonality is not the issue here mate, but existence is.
In the case of Kosovo it’s either adapt to the new situation or it non existence. Try living on having things in common and see how far you get before your belly starts to rumble. Kosovo live off EU money and this money pay for EVERYTHING in Kosovo. The EU is broke and cannot continue with US BS anymore as it has Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Malta, Italy france and the list goes on and on to worry about.
As I have said before If the Serbs persecuted all the Albanians in Kosovo and I’ll take that as being true, but then how can they go and work for Serbs in other part of that country????? I wouldn’t.
Last July there was a group of Albanians from Kosovo who went to Kragujevac looking for work at the Fiat factory and they claimed they were from Bujanovac. The persecuted spoke fluent Serbian. Now why would they do this if the Serbs did all those terrible things to them?????? These guys were sent back to Kosovo.
Now tell me how is Kosovo going to survive without Serbia? Please no BS about freedom and democracy and living off fresh air or looking at Albania.

If we continue to play our cards right, Re-integration with Serbia Day will be celebrated in all of BiH by the end of this decade.

Very soon Kosovo and Albania will celebrate together.

They say a camel is actually a horse but designed by a committee. What is the point of BiH?
One side celebrates a public holiday while the other does not and even the Croats are now distancing themselves from the original referendum because they want a third entity that recognizes Croats. If BiH is not a camel then I don’t know what is. Let it fall apart and then you might have some real peace.

They say a camel is actually a horse but designed by a committee. What is the point of BiH?
One side celebrates a public holiday while the other does not and even the Croats are now distancing themselves from the original referendum because they want a third entity that recognizes Croats. If BiH is not a camel then I don’t know what is. Let it fall apart and then you might have some real peace.
(sj, 1 March 2011 12:10)

If that is the case, and all of you speak slavik language, then what is your thoughts on Kosova and serbia being together , since they have nothing in comon??? Honest answer, and don't lecture me about Kosova being the craddle of Serbia since you guys are looking only for northern Mitro. Waiting for an answer.

-Very soon Kosovo and Albania will celebrate together.-
ivan

Yeah, they have so much to be proud off. Great athleates (NO), soon to be joining the EU (HAA!), human trafficing(YES), drug dealing (ABSOLUTELY) and whithe schengen (NO).

By the way, since when is ivan an albanians name? Are you ashamed to write your own? Albanians used to use Western names on this site, now they use Serbian/Croatian names. How low!

"Very soon Kosovo and Albania will celebrate together.
(ivan, 1 March 2011 17:05) "

Ya in the twilight zone!

For those of us who remember the war in Bosnia, this alliance stands for one thing only, and that is hypocrisy. Some of the bloodiest battles in Bosnia were in places such as Mostar where the croats and the bosnian muslims killed each other unchecked. This was the secret war in bosnia which was covered up beautifully by the western media.

The only good thing about the Bosnian civil war is that it is over. Too many people died for dubious reasons. We must stop trying to conquer each other and concentrate on conquering ourselves. That is how true peace is formed. MIR

(Agim Kelmendi, 1 March 2011 17:58)

You asked for an honest answer and here it is. Yes, Serbs recognize Kosovo as their cradle of civilization, but this is an emotional connection to the region.
I would accept your argument if history, paleontology and archeology supports your statement, but if the Albanians were in Kosovo for centuries prior to the Serbs, as claimed, then where is that evidence? As I have stated before there is evidence of Turkish occupation after 1389. There is evidence of Serb occupation with plenty of churches and other buildings, but there is not even a cave painting that represents Albanian occupation. In fact, the majority Albanians lay claim to the region because they are decedents of the mythical “Illyrians”.
No doubt intermarriage with locals can give credence to some claims that they may have “Illyrian” blood, as my ancestors were born in an area very close to a Roman cemetery and chances are I may have some Italian blood. However, that does not give me carte blanche to claim Rome.
Albanians never held Kosovo even during the Turkish occupation. Tito was the only one that gave the Albanians self-governing rights in Kosovo to counteract “Serbian Chauvinism” as he called it, but it’s funny that during times of crises Tito would first send additional troops to Kosovo even though the crises might be on the Yugoslav/Italian border. Albanians have lived in Kosovo in the past, but not in the large numbers we have today. Most are decedents from refugees since 1945.
Your argument on speaking the same Slavic language as the Bosniaks and Croats is rather shallow as you only have to look at Iraq where they speak the same language and the majority are of the same religion but they don’t get on.
Albanians tolerate no one. There are still Croats and Bosniaks living in Serbia, and I can understand your people ethnically cleansing the Serbs, but they have done this to Turks, Moslem Roma and Croats etc. It’s also very funny that one technical issue in the upcoming talks between Belgrade and Pristina is to seek free movement for Kosovo Albanians to look for work in the rest of Serbia.
If the Serbs persecuted all the Albanians in Kosovo then how can they go and work for Serbs????? I wouldn’t. In fact in July 2010 there was a group of Albanians from Kosovo who went to Kragujevac looking for work and they claimed they were from Bujanovac. The persecuted spoke fluent Serbian.
Now as socialism/communism was defeated in 1989, and the EU/US is now broke can you tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? What industry does it have? What strategies are in place by Pristina to attract the same to Kosovo?
Now be honest. No rhetoric about living off freedom or fresh air.

If we continue to play our cards right, Re-integration with Serbia Day will be celebrated in all of BiH by the end of this decade.
(highduke, 1 March 2011 12:31)

Rather than fantasise about mediaeval empires, let's stick with what's legal (Kosmet) and realistic (Srpska). I think Serbia can manage quite nicely without Mostar.

@sj

you didn't answer his question.

He asked "what do they have in common (now)", not "please give me some tiresome history lesson"

Can the editors here or anybody else enlighten us as to how the decentralization model in Bosnia compares to the level of decentralization in Belgium?Are the French and Dutch institutionally closer than the Serbs and Muslims/Croats?

@Mike C

Ivan is our dear Croatian neighbor.

Btw. there is no consent among the three ethnic communities in Bosnia and Herzegovina which holidays should be non-working. March 1st is one of the disputed holidays about which agreement is hardly possible to happen.

He asked "what do they have in common (now)", not "please give me some tiresome history lesson"
(Danilo, 2 March 2011 14:09)

Commonality is not the issue here mate, but existence is.
In the case of Kosovo it’s either adapt to the new situation or it non existence. Try living on having things in common and see how far you get before your belly starts to rumble. Kosovo live off EU money and this money pay for EVERYTHING in Kosovo. The EU is broke and cannot continue with US BS anymore as it has Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Malta, Italy france and the list goes on and on to worry about.
As I have said before If the Serbs persecuted all the Albanians in Kosovo and I’ll take that as being true, but then how can they go and work for Serbs in other part of that country????? I wouldn’t.
Last July there was a group of Albanians from Kosovo who went to Kragujevac looking for work at the Fiat factory and they claimed they were from Bujanovac. The persecuted spoke fluent Serbian. Now why would they do this if the Serbs did all those terrible things to them?????? These guys were sent back to Kosovo.
Now tell me how is Kosovo going to survive without Serbia? Please no BS about freedom and democracy and living off fresh air or looking at Albania.