U.S. naval and air forces around Libya

Uncle Sam ,can just sit the Libyan crisis still until it's over.The repositioning of US forces is just public posturing too little too late.
The Libyans can and will take care of this on their own.

Gaddafi is not accepting that his people are revolting against him and instead he blames everybody else apart from himself.

He has convinced himself that the revolt is the job of Al Qaeda, his people love him, and that only a few hotheads are causing trouble. These hotheads can be crushed according to Gaddafi.

Overthrowing Gaddafi might take some time and his overthrow should be carried out by Libyans themselves.

At the start of the war in Iraq the neo-con war hawks were circling the lofty heights of american journalism on a daily basis. Guys like wolfowitz and ajami and wes clark and christianna amanpour etc etc were all in agrreement sadaam had to go and it would be an easy and just war to liberate Iraq. The war, unexpectedly, became expensive both in lives and finances. The media turned against the war. the media not only turned against the war, it proclaimed, in orwellian fashion, that it never supported the war, the neo-con warhawks dissapeared for years-wolfowitz went to the world bank-ajami to john hopkins where he taught young american CIA prospects about middle eastern affairs.

after many long dry years, the neo-con war hawks are circling again. war is looming and the media is hungry for another show of american might and right. wolfowitz and ajami are both vips again at cnn HQ in atlanta. and if things go wrong again and libya becomes another quagmire the media will turn against the war and the doors of john hopkins and the world bank will always be open for old friends. orwell will turn in his unsettled grave and the poor poor libyan people will learn the true nature of the "yanqi"!

This repositioning of forces is for both international and domestic consumption, but it’s not enough.
The west wanted to remove Gaddafi for 3 decades, calling him every type of name under the sun from being a lunatic, to a terrorist, to supporting terror. However, behind closed doors the US was negotiating with the Colonel to come over to the “right” side and so he did. We have seen Obama greet him like an old friend, Tony Blair embrace him and so the list of western leaders goes on and on and their public change of heart for the Colonel. The Lockerby business was the greatest charade of so called justice I have seen in a long time. Libya handed over a person who went to trail then after found guilty he became sick then released. Hey, the US/UK feel that the relatives got 15 million each so that was enough.
When this revolution started no one knew that it would spread this far and don’t for a second think that the CIA had any involvement because they did not. The US does not have the capabilities to do this type of work anymore – it sacked or retired its best after the fall of the Soviet Union and now it nearly impossible to regain that momentum.
The US has been running behind these events scared and also hoping that these uprisings will be quelled and then they can issue some crap about human rights and democracy and feel happy. The US is now worried that this will get out of hand and they could lose oil from the only stable country in the region with these reserves. Iraq is not working for the them. To say that losing Libya is a catastrophe would be a mere understatement.
To try and impose a no fly zone may prove more difficult than they anyone thinks, but hey I have been wrong where the US strategists are concerned, just look at Iraq – free and democratic. Why stop at stuff up after stuff up.

If anyone doubted the US was behind the uprisings, let them be silent now. The oil-addicted weakened socialist USA with its own Muslim president works for Saudi Arabia which wants to replace Islamic dictatorship with Islamic Democracy to revamp Islam's image in the West and hasten conversion of the West. Why else is S. Arabia, America's oil supplier & the most repressive of all Arab regimes totally untouched by the uprisings?

"you don`t have to forget-the war is the best business in period og crisis.
(RS, 1 March 2011 18:15)

Also it helps fluctuate the stock market. I play a lot lately with one stock: buy/sell, buy/sell in a very short times using the fluctuations (no day-trades, working for a brokerage I am not allowed to do that). There ia a big drop right now. I just bought it back. So far so good. "Don't cry for me Argentina".

It's a good idea to have some big guns just over the horizon to help equalize the fight, if it becomes necessary. Some of the military commanders have asked for a no-fly zone, which may help prevent bombing of cities, but won't do much to stop the killing on the ground.
(Amer, 1 March 2011 21:33)

You are right with the no-fly zone. It would help egualize the fight. The problem: USA, UK are for it, France, Germany against. The later are still hedging their bets. For them business considerations come first. How repugnant.

Unfortunately, we will see, very quickly a new Markale in Tripoli or some refugee`s crisis in north Africa. They have to find a good reason for new strategic positioning.You don`t have to forget-the war is the best business in period og crisis.

From an American in Belgrade, standby and behold the final curtain to NATO's future...and watch the US ignite a Roman Candle (Firework)

What are we the people allowing our moronic/masonic leaders to do about nothing!

If any readers agree to NATO intervention, please turn off your TV, you're being brainwashed...

Obama needs this intervention so that his credibility and poll numbers may rise. When will this ever end?

The Libyan and all Arab peoples in the US are screaming for Obama to help their brethren in the Middle East from getting slaughtered at the hands of ruthless dictators.I do not think it will take many more thousands getting murdered before the US will go to their aid.

If anyone doubted the US was behind the uprisings, let them be silent now. The oil-addicted weakened socialist USA with its own Muslim president works for Saudi Arabia which wants to replace Islamic dictatorship with Islamic Democracy to revamp Islam's image in the West and hasten conversion of the West. Why else is S. Arabia, America's oil supplier & the most repressive of all Arab regimes totally untouched by the uprisings?
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A ridiculous comment! The US is not behind this at all, they do support the will of the people. The US is not able to organise protests in Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Sudan, Somalia, Djibouti, Iran, Western Sahara etc; all of which have had anti-Government protests. You really do over estimate the power of the US and you're giving the US far too much credit. Saudi Arabia has been having protests too, for your information; it isn't "totally untouched" as you say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Saudi_Arabian_protests (read the references)
Is the US behind this too? Obviously not.

Also to say that the US is socialist is ridiculous, compare the Democrats to Socialist parties in Europe (aka real socialist parties). The Democrats lean from Centre Left, to Centre to Centre Right on the political spectrum; they're not socialist at all. Also saying that Obama is a Muslim, well I don't really need to comment on that; that comment speaks for itself, everyone knows how ridiculous that is. The US is not as powerful as you make out, you always do give the US far too much credit. Not even Gaddafi blames the US.

something very interesting about libya that i just found out:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23414
...

talks about a bit of the history and how the former monarchy had sold off all resources to american and british interests... then in 69 col. momar kicked out monarchy and foriegn interests to nationalize resources. this is certainly the biggest thorn in the sides of the world's democracies... can't have a leader doing something for his people while ignoring the wealthy outsiders... thats not democracy, thats lunacy...
sorry for the rant :)

"Overthrowing Gaddafi might take some time and his overthrow should be carried out by Libyans themselves.
(Leonidas, 1 March 2011 10:10) "

Agreed - if they have the capability. Qaddafi bought all the best equipment for his most loyal troops, meaning what the opposition can get their hands on is going to be inferior. And they're using people who have never fought before - the opposition troops may have the courage of desperation, but then, so do the ones defending Qaddafi, at least some of them. It's a good idea to have some big guns just over the horizon to help equalize the fight, if it becomes necessary. Some of the military commanders have asked for a no-fly zone, which may help prevent bombing of cities, but won't do much to stop the killing on the ground.

Ian, of course the comments are ridiculous - "highduke" is an Albanian troll with a mission to make pro-Serbian sentiment look as stupid as possible. Unfortunately, he is succeeding rather well.

Equally unfortunately, the US gives the idiots ammnition to work with, denouncing Gadaffi (correctly) for setting mercenaries on his own people while simultaneously "urging restraint" on the Bahraini royal family for, er, setting mercenaries on their own people, while being totally quiescent in front of the terrorism-exporting torturers of Saudi Arabia.

Hypocrisy? Quite clearly, and an increasingly counter-productive hypocrisy as more people, home and abroad, see through it. HOWEVER (as ben would say), I find equally sickening the double standards of the Serb extremists who highduke/Ilir parodies. It may be an enemy of the West (and who exactly is "the West" anyway), but does that make Iran a friend of Serbia? Ask the families of the Serb victims of Iranian-backed mujahideen in BiH. North Korea - enemy of the US so must be a great country, right? Actually, no, it's a hell on earth. Try to pretend otherwise and you're down in the gutter with all the other pigs. The one common characteristic of almost all those shrieking "hypocrite" is that, actually, they are hypocrites.

why did the usa goverment trust him all those years was it because of the oil now he is killing his people we dont need oil from other countryes
we have lots of wind to make power and we can grow bio ful and all countrys should stop makeing war meteral and the usa can not ploce the world we shold take care of are own people that out of work and bring the work back to usa

(sj, 1 March 2011 11:55)
Everyday I am thankful that I am able to live in the real world and not rely on you for information on the US.
Your daily ramblings on how weak the US is and its ultimate destruction in a matter of hours remind me of an incident in the 80's. I was sitting in a cafe in Dallas, Tx and this man comes running in and announces the president is dead, he even goes over to a serviceman and said "what are you going to do now you are out of a job?"
The man was wearing a old suit and tie that had not been cleaned in months and had probably 30 notes pinned to his jacket. He too believed everything he said.
By the way no US President died in the 80's if you were wondering.

(sj, 1 March 2011 11:55)
Everyday I am thankful that I am able to live in the real world and not rely on you for information on the US.
Your daily ramblings on how weak the US is and its ultimate destruction in a matter of hours remind me of an incident in the 80's. I was sitting in a cafe in Dallas, Tx and this man comes running in and announces the president is dead, he even goes over to a serviceman and said "what are you going to do now you are out of a job?"
The man was wearing a old suit and tie that had not been cleaned in months and had probably 30 notes pinned to his jacket. He too believed everything he said.
By the way no US President died in the 80's if you were wondering.
(pss, 2 March 2011 19:04)

Here is my challenge to the US – attack Libya and see how well you go

If anyone doubted the US was behind the uprisings, let them be silent now. The oil-addicted weakened socialist USA with its own Muslim president works for Saudi Arabia which wants to replace Islamic dictatorship with Islamic Democracy to revamp Islam's image in the West and hasten conversion of the West. Why else is S. Arabia, America's oil supplier & the most repressive of all Arab regimes totally untouched by the uprisings?

From an American in Belgrade, standby and behold the final curtain to NATO's future...and watch the US ignite a Roman Candle (Firework)

What are we the people allowing our moronic/masonic leaders to do about nothing!

If any readers agree to NATO intervention, please turn off your TV, you're being brainwashed...

why did the usa goverment trust him all those years was it because of the oil now he is killing his people we dont need oil from other countryes
we have lots of wind to make power and we can grow bio ful and all countrys should stop makeing war meteral and the usa can not ploce the world we shold take care of are own people that out of work and bring the work back to usa

Obama needs this intervention so that his credibility and poll numbers may rise. When will this ever end?

At the start of the war in Iraq the neo-con war hawks were circling the lofty heights of american journalism on a daily basis. Guys like wolfowitz and ajami and wes clark and christianna amanpour etc etc were all in agrreement sadaam had to go and it would be an easy and just war to liberate Iraq. The war, unexpectedly, became expensive both in lives and finances. The media turned against the war. the media not only turned against the war, it proclaimed, in orwellian fashion, that it never supported the war, the neo-con warhawks dissapeared for years-wolfowitz went to the world bank-ajami to john hopkins where he taught young american CIA prospects about middle eastern affairs.

after many long dry years, the neo-con war hawks are circling again. war is looming and the media is hungry for another show of american might and right. wolfowitz and ajami are both vips again at cnn HQ in atlanta. and if things go wrong again and libya becomes another quagmire the media will turn against the war and the doors of john hopkins and the world bank will always be open for old friends. orwell will turn in his unsettled grave and the poor poor libyan people will learn the true nature of the "yanqi"!

something very interesting about libya that i just found out:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23414
...

talks about a bit of the history and how the former monarchy had sold off all resources to american and british interests... then in 69 col. momar kicked out monarchy and foriegn interests to nationalize resources. this is certainly the biggest thorn in the sides of the world's democracies... can't have a leader doing something for his people while ignoring the wealthy outsiders... thats not democracy, thats lunacy...
sorry for the rant :)

Unfortunately, we will see, very quickly a new Markale in Tripoli or some refugee`s crisis in north Africa. They have to find a good reason for new strategic positioning.You don`t have to forget-the war is the best business in period og crisis.

Uncle Sam ,can just sit the Libyan crisis still until it's over.The repositioning of US forces is just public posturing too little too late.
The Libyans can and will take care of this on their own.

Gaddafi is not accepting that his people are revolting against him and instead he blames everybody else apart from himself.

He has convinced himself that the revolt is the job of Al Qaeda, his people love him, and that only a few hotheads are causing trouble. These hotheads can be crushed according to Gaddafi.

Overthrowing Gaddafi might take some time and his overthrow should be carried out by Libyans themselves.

This repositioning of forces is for both international and domestic consumption, but it’s not enough.
The west wanted to remove Gaddafi for 3 decades, calling him every type of name under the sun from being a lunatic, to a terrorist, to supporting terror. However, behind closed doors the US was negotiating with the Colonel to come over to the “right” side and so he did. We have seen Obama greet him like an old friend, Tony Blair embrace him and so the list of western leaders goes on and on and their public change of heart for the Colonel. The Lockerby business was the greatest charade of so called justice I have seen in a long time. Libya handed over a person who went to trail then after found guilty he became sick then released. Hey, the US/UK feel that the relatives got 15 million each so that was enough.
When this revolution started no one knew that it would spread this far and don’t for a second think that the CIA had any involvement because they did not. The US does not have the capabilities to do this type of work anymore – it sacked or retired its best after the fall of the Soviet Union and now it nearly impossible to regain that momentum.
The US has been running behind these events scared and also hoping that these uprisings will be quelled and then they can issue some crap about human rights and democracy and feel happy. The US is now worried that this will get out of hand and they could lose oil from the only stable country in the region with these reserves. Iraq is not working for the them. To say that losing Libya is a catastrophe would be a mere understatement.
To try and impose a no fly zone may prove more difficult than they anyone thinks, but hey I have been wrong where the US strategists are concerned, just look at Iraq – free and democratic. Why stop at stuff up after stuff up.

If anyone doubted the US was behind the uprisings, let them be silent now. The oil-addicted weakened socialist USA with its own Muslim president works for Saudi Arabia which wants to replace Islamic dictatorship with Islamic Democracy to revamp Islam's image in the West and hasten conversion of the West. Why else is S. Arabia, America's oil supplier & the most repressive of all Arab regimes totally untouched by the uprisings?
--------------

A ridiculous comment! The US is not behind this at all, they do support the will of the people. The US is not able to organise protests in Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Sudan, Somalia, Djibouti, Iran, Western Sahara etc; all of which have had anti-Government protests. You really do over estimate the power of the US and you're giving the US far too much credit. Saudi Arabia has been having protests too, for your information; it isn't "totally untouched" as you say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Saudi_Arabian_protests (read the references)
Is the US behind this too? Obviously not.

Also to say that the US is socialist is ridiculous, compare the Democrats to Socialist parties in Europe (aka real socialist parties). The Democrats lean from Centre Left, to Centre to Centre Right on the political spectrum; they're not socialist at all. Also saying that Obama is a Muslim, well I don't really need to comment on that; that comment speaks for itself, everyone knows how ridiculous that is. The US is not as powerful as you make out, you always do give the US far too much credit. Not even Gaddafi blames the US.

Ian, of course the comments are ridiculous - "highduke" is an Albanian troll with a mission to make pro-Serbian sentiment look as stupid as possible. Unfortunately, he is succeeding rather well.

Equally unfortunately, the US gives the idiots ammnition to work with, denouncing Gadaffi (correctly) for setting mercenaries on his own people while simultaneously "urging restraint" on the Bahraini royal family for, er, setting mercenaries on their own people, while being totally quiescent in front of the terrorism-exporting torturers of Saudi Arabia.

Hypocrisy? Quite clearly, and an increasingly counter-productive hypocrisy as more people, home and abroad, see through it. HOWEVER (as ben would say), I find equally sickening the double standards of the Serb extremists who highduke/Ilir parodies. It may be an enemy of the West (and who exactly is "the West" anyway), but does that make Iran a friend of Serbia? Ask the families of the Serb victims of Iranian-backed mujahideen in BiH. North Korea - enemy of the US so must be a great country, right? Actually, no, it's a hell on earth. Try to pretend otherwise and you're down in the gutter with all the other pigs. The one common characteristic of almost all those shrieking "hypocrite" is that, actually, they are hypocrites.

It's a good idea to have some big guns just over the horizon to help equalize the fight, if it becomes necessary. Some of the military commanders have asked for a no-fly zone, which may help prevent bombing of cities, but won't do much to stop the killing on the ground.
(Amer, 1 March 2011 21:33)

You are right with the no-fly zone. It would help egualize the fight. The problem: USA, UK are for it, France, Germany against. The later are still hedging their bets. For them business considerations come first. How repugnant.

"you don`t have to forget-the war is the best business in period og crisis.
(RS, 1 March 2011 18:15)

Also it helps fluctuate the stock market. I play a lot lately with one stock: buy/sell, buy/sell in a very short times using the fluctuations (no day-trades, working for a brokerage I am not allowed to do that). There ia a big drop right now. I just bought it back. So far so good. "Don't cry for me Argentina".

"Overthrowing Gaddafi might take some time and his overthrow should be carried out by Libyans themselves.
(Leonidas, 1 March 2011 10:10) "

Agreed - if they have the capability. Qaddafi bought all the best equipment for his most loyal troops, meaning what the opposition can get their hands on is going to be inferior. And they're using people who have never fought before - the opposition troops may have the courage of desperation, but then, so do the ones defending Qaddafi, at least some of them. It's a good idea to have some big guns just over the horizon to help equalize the fight, if it becomes necessary. Some of the military commanders have asked for a no-fly zone, which may help prevent bombing of cities, but won't do much to stop the killing on the ground.

The Libyan and all Arab peoples in the US are screaming for Obama to help their brethren in the Middle East from getting slaughtered at the hands of ruthless dictators.I do not think it will take many more thousands getting murdered before the US will go to their aid.

(sj, 1 March 2011 11:55)
Everyday I am thankful that I am able to live in the real world and not rely on you for information on the US.
Your daily ramblings on how weak the US is and its ultimate destruction in a matter of hours remind me of an incident in the 80's. I was sitting in a cafe in Dallas, Tx and this man comes running in and announces the president is dead, he even goes over to a serviceman and said "what are you going to do now you are out of a job?"
The man was wearing a old suit and tie that had not been cleaned in months and had probably 30 notes pinned to his jacket. He too believed everything he said.
By the way no US President died in the 80's if you were wondering.

(sj, 1 March 2011 11:55)
Everyday I am thankful that I am able to live in the real world and not rely on you for information on the US.
Your daily ramblings on how weak the US is and its ultimate destruction in a matter of hours remind me of an incident in the 80's. I was sitting in a cafe in Dallas, Tx and this man comes running in and announces the president is dead, he even goes over to a serviceman and said "what are you going to do now you are out of a job?"
The man was wearing a old suit and tie that had not been cleaned in months and had probably 30 notes pinned to his jacket. He too believed everything he said.
By the way no US President died in the 80's if you were wondering.
(pss, 2 March 2011 19:04)

Here is my challenge to the US – attack Libya and see how well you go