Bus carrying Serbs stoned in Kosovo

Kosovo Albanians behaving like saints, on All Souls Day - just another example of K Albos showing their love. It would be a lot wiser for them to go and stone Thaci's house, as that KLA organ-harvester is sinking Kosovo into a pit of evil crime and filth. One day, hopefully, KLA supporters will take their heads out of their butts, and see things rationally and with no bias.

This sort of incidents happen to often I'm affraid. Kosova Express buscompany takes albanians from all over Europe through Serbia to Kosovo and I have yet to read about one single incident where serbs attacked a bus carrying albanians. It just showes who is more civilized out of the two peoples. Further it proves that serbs and albanians don't have a future together. Kosovo will be partitioned and that is thanks to albanian behaviour.

Simple: Don't downplay those attacks as 'playing kids' and treat those attackers like it's done in any civilized country: By sending them to jail for at least 1 year (up to 5 years) for endangering traffic and recklessly endangering the health or life of travelers.

The Kosovo Police (KPS) stated in a release that four persons took part in the stoning and that three men and a woman had been taken in for questioning on suspicion that they were involved in the incident.
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Three men and a woman? No excuse of kids doing it this time?

I knew it and I said to several friends yesterday that look out for b92 posting this news. Yes, it did happened, meaning the bus was stoned, but also bear in mind that Gjakova has the most victims of massacre in one morning 500 in mehe village+ hundreds more are still missing(from different ages and gender). I don't agree at all with this act of vandalism, but I take under consideration the feelings of these people that to this day they don;t know were their loved ones are.
I wish b92 will report every little incident that occures against K-Albanias in northern Mitro.

This sort of incidents happen to often I'm affraid. Kosova Express buscompany takes albanians from all over Europe through Serbia to Kosovo and I have yet to read about one single incident where serbs attacked a bus carrying albanians. It just showes who is more civilized out of the two peoples. Further it proves that serbs and albanians don't have a future together. Kosovo will be partitioned and that is thanks to albanian behaviour.
(MikeC, 27 February 2011 13:46)


1. Incidents against albanians happends in N.Mitrovica.
2. You don't have any reason to throw stones at albanians traveling trough Serbia because albanians have never come to Serbia to kill serbs. Serbs have killed and massacred albanians in Kosovo.
3. Kosovo independence(since partition is out of question) dosen't come from albanian behavour. It comes from Serbia since Serbia has repressed albanians for decades. Reamamber Milosevic or more far back Rankovic and many others. Just read a little bit and you will see!
4. One of the person who was in the bus was former major of Gjakova when Kosovo was part of f.yugo. This major has caused much pain to the people living in Gjakova and many albanian victims has gone trough his hands. He is the reason why people throwed stones at the bus and it is acceptable.
Go to Partesh (near gjilan) and see how serbs live and decide for your self if serbs are repressed in Kosovo in any how. Compare this to albanians living under serbian rule before 1999. You will see a big difference!!

Wow, typical response from the Albanian side. Justifying crime as usual. Instead of condemning crime we hear why it should be allowed. Nothing has changed with this primitive mindset.

"I knew it and I said to several friends yesterday that look out for b92 posting this news. Yes, it did happened, meaning the bus was stoned, but also bear in mind that Gjakova has the most victims of massacre in one morning 500 in mehe village+ hundreds more are still missing(from different ages and gender). I don't agree at all with this act of vandalism, but I take under consideration the feelings of these people that to this day they don;t know were their loved ones are.
I wish b92 will report every little incident that occures against K-Albanias in northern Mitro.
Agim Kelmendi

Knowing the kind of Serbian represals like that in Vojvodina in 1944, where 40,000 innocent Hungarian civilians were masacred for 4,000 Serbs (10:1 ratio)if the victimes of Gjakova would have been Serbs, Gjakova inhabited by Serbs and the passangers on the bus K-Albanians than none of the bus passangers would be alive today.

Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?

MikeC wrote: "through Serbia to Kosovo and I have yet to read about one single incident" serbs can travell through Kosova with serbian plates, but we can not drive through serbia with Kosva plates.

Just keep it up. Every stone you throw just loses you international support for your criminal pseudo-state.

They got caught, well done KP.
(Pejoni, 27 February 2011 17:59)
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Probably taken in to be congratulated. I'm sure they were released almost immediately as they haven't found any "proof" that the three did it.

Taken in for questioning says nothing. What happens next? Is someone going to follow up on this?

"This happens when you provoke Albanians when you,Serbs, enter Kosova in a uncivilized way." (FREEDOM)

-- They were visiting the graves of loved ones and minding their own business. My God you're an insipidly vapid individual. By your thinking I couldn't care less for the Albanian cause.

"He is the reason why people throwed stones at the bus and it is acceptable. "
(Demi, 27 February 2011 15:46)

Sorry, with this archaic self-justice attitude, there will never be a rule of law and democracy in Kosovo. What has to change first is the mentality of Albanians, if they wish to become civilized members of the European family.

Demi

1. Incidents against albanians happends in N.Mitrovica.

-I have never heard of Serbs desecrating albanian cemetaries, trowing granades at albanian homes or burning down mosques?

2. You don't have any reason to throw stones at albanians traveling trough Serbia because albanians have never come to Serbia to kill serbs. Serbs have killed and massacred albanians in Kosovo.

-So you are collectivly juding all Serbs? Is that it? All Serbs are guilty? Why do you want the north to give up its resistence if you intend to get rid of them. Do you actually know what you are saying?
Besides, you are forgetting all albanian crimes agains serbs: organ harvesting, the burning down of hundreds of monasteries and churches, the deportation of 200.ooo kosovo serbs etc.
Not to mention albanian crimes against serbs during WW2. But I guess they don't count.
My wifes brother were nearly beaten to death by albanians in Istok. Why? His only crime was wanting to go back to HIS land and home.

3."Kosovo independence(since partition is out of question) dosen't come from albanian behavour. It comes from Serbia since Serbia has repressed albanians for decades. Reamamber Milosevic or more far back Rankovic and many others. Just read a little bit and you will see!"

-Sorry to dissapoint you but partition is a reality. The only way not to partition Kosovo is to ethnicly clense the north from all remaining serbs.
How come 1,9 million albanians remained in Kosovo if it indeed was that bad? How come albanians from Albania came to Kosovo if they feared the serbs? They fled Enver Hoxha to go to Kosovo. After the serb army left Kosovo thousands of albanians from Albania invaded Kosovo. Stealing appartment that belonged to serbs among other things.

4.One of the person who was in the bus was former major of Gjakova when Kosovo was part of f.yugo. This major has caused much pain to the people living in Gjakova and many albanian victims has gone trough his hands. He is the reason why people throwed stones at the bus and it is acceptable.
Go to Partesh (near gjilan) and see how serbs live and decide for your self if serbs are repressed in Kosovo in any how. Compare this to albanians living under serbian rule before 1999. You will see a big difference!!

-Oh please! Why didn't NATO arrest this guy if you have proof he commited crimes against albanians? You also forgot to mention that Arkan and Milosevic were on the bus as well. In every place in Kosovo where there are serbs they are accused of warcrimes by the albanians. No matter how old or yound, if they are serbs they must be warcriminals. You don't want serbs to return to Kosovo because you want to steal their houses and land, just like you are trying to steal Kosovo.

Joe,

How about the 100:1 (killed) or 50:1 (wounded) ratios for each Nazi that Serbs had to live with during WWII? It is not an excuse for the tragedy that innocent people had to endure, but it puts things in perspective, something that you constantly fail to demonstrate when you put your comments here.

If world provinces were rated like ebay sellers,the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija would have the most negatives when it comes to tolerating any ethnic group other than Albanian.

Real dissapointing to see this stuff still goes on in Kosovo. Even more disappointing to know the Albanian revisionists are once again hard at work downplaying this.

We even have Joe predictably adding irrelevant stuff on Vojvodina just to add his two cents to sound informative.

Albanians are physically incapable of committing crimes, that is unless their sponsors (US, UK, Fr, De etc.) change their mind. Only look at their cover up of KLA crimes over the last decade and the blind eye drawn by the Europea Parliament MEPs. Everyone has their favorites.

In the recent UN resolution on Libya, the US demanded an clause be added that foreign mercenaries be given immunity from prosecution by the ICC. Allowing that would have opened the US open to prosecution over their complicity in war crimes in the Balkans, the most obvious the support private US military contractors like MPRI (Military Professional Resources Incorporated) provided to the croats over Operations Storm and Flash.

There is no place in Europe for people like this who continue with such barbaric behavior and institutions that refuse to punish (effectively) such offenses. It is much closer to Turkey who along with Pakistan have practically no history of democratic development (i.e. mostly run by the military).

Really? 40+ comments over some stones being tossed at a bus?

The greatest WANTED war criminal on earth named Ratko Mladic is lounging in a cafe in Belgrade sipping Château De Beaulon Cognac.

Lets discuss meaningful news. Lets discuss why Serbia is protecting and hiding the most wanted man on this earth next to Osama Bin Laden.

Rest assured though, justice will be served to Mladic on this earth, or in the next life....

They got caught, well done KP.

Thanks Hungarian Joe, I like happy endings, and the removal of Hungarian Nazis from Vojvodina qualifies. Unfortunately your post continues to qualify as a perverted attempt to justify and excuse terrorism by your Albanian buddies, but hey, at least your history lesson was good news in the end. I suspect more good news for Serbia will prevail in the end in Kosovo as well, as history has a tendency of repeating itself.

In the war they slaughtered people in their homes though them out. Now 12 years later you want us to let them come back forget it.
(Gjakovar, 27 February 2011 22:31)
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If there were murderers in that bus and you had evidence, why didn't you arrest them? Why didn't you provide that evidence to EULEX?

Einstein once said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I'm sorry, but committing crimes and violence over and over again, no matter what excuse you may invent, is not going to improve your situation.

"If you would care to read some informative comments like Demi's one you would see that at least one, the ex-mayor committed crimes.
(Joe, 27 February 2011 22:26) "

I think you and Demi just conttradicted yourselves. If this mayor did commit those crimes, why was he not arrested when he was in deep "Kosova" territory????

Moreover as a Yankee, Joe should know that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Or are we talking double standards of justice here?

If justice is not done here,we do believe in god and we do believe that He will do the job and be juste with all of us,
(lili, 28 February 2011 12:25)
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Are you justifying violence in God's name? What happened to love thy neighbour? Where in God's teachings does he allow people to throw stones at others?

It is time to move on from the past and embrace the present. There is peace now so remove the hatred and violence out of the system. Every side, yes I repeat, every side has its own stories of horror. If you continue to focus on hate and violence then that's what you get in return. It is the law of attraction.

This happens when you provoke Albanians when you,Serbs, enter Kosova in a uncivilized way.

Putting up the 3 fingers towards Albanians is provoking in a very primitive way.

Do not forget, these 3 fingers were a symbol of your army, para-military groups, cetniks, Arkan's group, ....

This so called symbol of yours has slaughtered many innocent Albanians ... and Albanians to not forget.

What comes around goes around!

Tung

"This tells a lot about an "unpartial" community college teacher. For him crimes committed by Serbs are always irrelevant." (Joe)

-- So you're basically accusing me of overlooking crimes committed by Serbs within a comment thread attached to an article reporting on Albanians attacking/harrassing ordinary Serbs visiting the graves of their loved ones. Again. You avoid the topic at hand, you attempt to associate half-baked excuses for this event from other nationalists with something that took place nearly seventy years ago in a completely different place and context, and then you accuse me of being perennially biased and one-sided to a topic and criteria that you yourself crafted. Followed by the ad hominem remarks you've come to be known for whenever someone pisses you off for not taking what you say seriously.

Bravo Joe. I don't know whether to be offended or dumbfounded.

Just curious - although this action is inexcusable - what ever happened to the invaders that shot the Serbian children swimming back in 2002?? OR was that just swept under the rug of the "kosovo" government?

Like I mentioned - just curious....

In the war they slaughtered people in their homes though them out. Now 12 years later you want us to let them come back forget it.
(Gjakovar, 27 February 2011 22:31)
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If there were murderers in that bus and you had evidence, why didn't you arrest them? Why didn't you provide that evidence to EULEX?

Einstein once said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I'm sorry, but committing crimes and violence over and over again, no matter what excuse you may invent, is not going to improve your situation.
(Zoran, 28 February 2011 11:28)

I promise you that we will keep them out where are my brothers Bones Where are my fathers bones until I get them back and put them to rest I will not sleep at night easy nor my mother.

12 years have past and for you mite be a lot Zoran but for me it seems like Yesterday when Serbian paramilitary entered my home and kicked me my mother and my sisster out but I have not seen my Brother or father since that day.

The agony the goes through my bones and body chills as I write this its only felt from ones who are in my tight heart and shoes.

So until they are back I will make sure with the strength I have no Serb is back and I want an apology.

they were neither KLA or anything else just regular citizens killed at rendom.

Till then out dont come back. I will never forget their voices as they hid behind masks as cowards.

# Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?
(IUPM, 27 February 2011 17:42)

Let me teach you a little about Gjakova/ dakovica even before the war it did not have a big Serb population and all Serbs knew Albanian they had for long time only one street and thats where the street stands.

The people who came from Bosnia there they all armed caused a lot of pain to people in the city and surrounding villages. Old mayor he started to build a church in middle of town where 98% of population did not want it.

In south part of city he was building a area where from sky you could see CCCC in a cross.

In the war they slaughtered people in their homes though them out. Now 12 years later you want us to let them come back forget it.

they tried before no peaceful visits since we know that our beloved neighbors are the ones that killed our loved ones. As well we have many missing bodies that mothers want back, so please the ones who are coming back are those neighbors.

Its hard to understand unless you have lived here let the church be there no one touches it but dont come back ever

Mike, be careful and keep guarding your privacy. 1-2-3 and you may feel someone's hand "mixing buziness and pleasure" where you don't expect it.. He can do it remotely, without any special technology.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=72933

Followed by the ad hominem remarks you've come to be known for whenever someone pisses you off for not taking what you say seriously.

Bravo Joe. I don't know whether to be offended or dumbfounded.
(Mike, 28 February 2011 18:45)

Looking at his comments, in particular last few here:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=72933

I don't think he takes even himself seriously - actually, Joe had hilarious comments if you assume, he is a parody/fake character.

There is no other explanation, see the one with "mixing business with pleasure". No one can write it in earnest but it did brighten my day. Joe did manage to get a "+" from me, hope it will show up.

Thank you Joe, my next vacation is in New York. But I hope, we won't get down to buziness with each other.

I have a question. Say, the government of some smaller country (Nepal) is now debating if recognizing Kosovo independence is a good idea or not.

Some people suggest that in order to understand the situation and make the decision the president and the king of that country should read the original B92 article and pay attention to all comments because they are a good mirror of the mentality in Kosovo.

I am curious, who does think it would be a good idea because it would provide a positive picture?

Thank you. 8-)

Joe said, "This tells a lot about an "unpartial" community college teacher."

What a hoot!
The curmudgeon attempts to insult and it backfires on him. Foolish.

I don't know if Mike teaches at the community college level, but I bet he knows to spell "IMPARTIAL" correctly.

If you're going to attempt to insult someone, Joe, at least do it correctly.

12 years have past and for you mite be a lot Zoran but for me it seems like Yesterday when Serbian paramilitary entered my home and kicked me my mother and my sisster out but I have not seen my Brother or father since that day.

The agony the goes through my bones and body chills as I write this its only felt from ones who are in my tight heart and shoes.

So until they are back I will make sure with the strength I have no Serb is back and I want an apology.

they were neither KLA or anything else just regular citizens killed at rendom.

Till then out dont come back. I will never forget their voices as they hid behind masks as cowards.
(Gjakovar, 28 February 2011 16:13)
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I'm sorry to hear the sad story about your brother and father. It must be difficult to experience something like that. Feeding the cycle of violence keeps it going indefinitely as everyone has their own horror story. That is why true and honest negotiations are the only path to peace and prosperity. There is a window of opportunity for that now but it doesn't remain open forever.

In my books, the process of truth and reconciliation will probably give you the answers a lot faster than selective justice. If you want the truth then you have to seek it. Violence and hatred will only give you more violence and hatred.

Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?
IUPM

If you would care to read some informative comments like Demi's one you would see that at least one, the ex-mayor committed crimes.

zoran,
Do not expect love from us for our neigbourgsafter what they have done!We Do acceept that they come to honor their loved one,that is already a goodwill effort for all these mothers that do not have the same privilege to honor the grave of their kids because your army took their kids and we do not know where they are resting now.
Do not abuse with provocation,because then you will have hate.These serbsare not coming just to honor theirs ones,some of them come to celebrate in the place of their crimes;And this is a evil attitude.

here you are,all of you throwing "verbal"stones to albanians.Despite the fact that none of you were really touched by the war in your family as the gjakovar were(gjakova being the city where most horrible crimes did happen thanks to these serbs).
You have to understand that it is your verbal stones that killed yesterday and will kill tomorrow:it is your propaganda that allowed your serbs to committ crimes without feeling and having the sentiment that it is a crime,it is your common attitude toward albanians that allows these crimes to happen yesterday and tomorrow;The fist step and first objective always begins with the depersonalisation and the desgumanisation of the people you have in front of you:you spent and spend hours and hours here to present albanians like animals and barbaric;Why? only for one purpose:to let feel you easy when you will kill them,to let feel you as not being a human who committed a crime against an other human.deshumanisation is always the first step for genocide and crime,it is well documented,and can be well documented in the serbian case too.
you do have a personel responsability here.You assume it,ok;
Then i am entitled to say that when you came in gjakova with your 3 fingers,it is just the same as if a SS was coming in aushwitzwith his arm saluting heil hitler!
I accept that you want to honor your death,but do accept that we too could have this possibility and do not forget that in gjakova hundreds of mother do not know where your army has sent their kids!
Is it precisly why you chose gjakova to "celebrate"?
If justice is not done here,we do believe in god and we do believe that He will do the job and be juste with all of us,

We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless criminals.
(Zoti, 28 February 2011 21:15)

Than why you want to deal with them on B92? To convince a criminal that he is a criminal? And how about newborn criminals, where did they commit the crime?

At the moment you say their crime is that they did born you became a criminal.

BTW: read again what I wrote about King of Nepal (that was my post) and think a bit, what could be behind of that.

"We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless
criminals."
Zoti

Irrational, totally irrational.

"We even have Joe predictably adding irrelevant stuff on Vojvodina just to add his two cents to sound informative.
Mike

This tells a lot about an "unpartial" community college teacher. For him crimes committed by Serbs are always irrelevant.

I promise you that we will keep them out where are my brothers Bones Where are my fathers bones until I get them back and put them to rest I will not sleep at night easy nor my mother.

12 years have past and for you mite be a lot Zoran but for me it seems like Yesterday when Serbian paramilitary entered my home and kicked me my mother and my sisster out but I have not seen my Brother or father since that day.

The agony the goes through my bones and body chills as I write this its only felt from ones who are in my tight heart and shoes.

So until they are back I will make sure with the strength I have no Serb is back and I want an apology.

they were neither KLA or anything else just regular citizens killed at rendom.

Till then out dont come back. I will never forget their voices as they hid behind masks as cowards.
(Gjakovar, 28 February 2011 16:13)

Horrible story, Gjakovar. Maybe not much comfort for you, but be sure: they were not "as cowards", just "cowards" among other much worse things. The masks were for a good reason: everyone I know in Serbia would report them to the proper place. They knew that what they are doing is rejected by most people. Otherwise why did they wear masks?

Bloody Serbian criminals. Always stoned on the bus. The Albanians probably provided them with the Mary Jane to facilitate being stoned in the first place!

Ataman
Thanks for replying to your comment. It was your comment on somebody's else nickname in this case Zoti.
Writing comments on hundreds of sick nicknames for a while was not enough so you decided to come up with new sick inventions that you call "sense of humor".
(Simpatiku, 1 March 2011 12:12)

Zoti is not me. The "Nepal recognizes Kosovo" is me. If you read that comment you realize what is behind of it. Read again - you totally misunderstood.

"You avoid the topic at hand"
Mike

The topic at hand have to be seen in contest with events 11-20 years ago.
Some of those on the bus as I read committed crimes. Not proven? Well they s/b treated as suspects and their cases investigated. If proven guilty there s/b no excuses. There s/b justice for all. My sad experience on this site however is that Serbs don't see it that way.

How can you be so childish to fabricate something in my name? Something I never wrote. How low can you go? B92 is this type of undermining somebody allowed? What is the opinion of other readers about it?
(Joe, 28 February 2011 21:14)

I clearly remember that B92 did chastise few people by posting contradicting writings from the same IP address under different names. Otherwise I see no single reason I would write funny things in your name. Someone could make a joke, yes. But that IP should be pretty close geographically to yours and I have no friggin idea what is your IP and have no interest to learn it. You probably know that IP addresses are logged and if there is a controversy much can be retrieved.

You may get impression, you are terribly important because at some point few people from a pretty large area were curious who you are. It's less about the person, more about the shockingly stupid comments that person produced, even compared with some others on B92.

Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?
(IUPM, 27 February 2011)

We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless criminals.

I don't need special technology, I just put my hand in there, it' called mixing business with pleasure.
(Joe, 28 February 2011 09:48)
ataman

How can you be so childish to fabricate something in my name? Something I never wrote. How low can you go? B92 is this type of undermining somebody allowed? What is the opinion of other readers about it?

Zoti is not me. The "Nepal recognizes Kosovo" is me. If you read that comment you realize what is behind of it. Read again - you totally misunderstood.
(Ataman, 1 March 2011)

True, Ataman never posted under my name.

My statement was meant to be incendiary. We put up with this "ALL Albanians are criminals" attitude from the Serb camp on a daily basis. Just wished you experience what it feels like since B92 is very selective on posts attacking Serbs and the Serb nation in general.

We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless criminals.
(Zoti, 28 February 2011 21:15)

Than why you want to deal with them on B92? To convince a criminal that he is a criminal? And how about newborn criminals, where did they commit the crime?

At the moment you say their crime is that they did born you became a criminal.

BTW: read again what I wrote about King of Nepal (that was my post) and think a bit, what could be behind of that.
(Ataman, 1 March 2011 00:34)

Ataman
Thanks for replying to your comment. It was your comment on somebody's else nickname in this case Zoti.
Writing comments on hundreds of sick nicknames for a while was not enough so you decided to come up with new sick inventions that you call "sense of humor".

"I knew it and I said to several friends yesterday that look out for b92 posting this news. Yes, it did happened, meaning the bus was stoned, but also bear in mind that Gjakova has the most victims of massacre in one morning 500 in mehe village+ hundreds more are still missing(from different ages and gender). I don't agree at all with this act of vandalism, but I take under consideration the feelings of these people that to this day they don;t know were their loved ones are.
I wish b92 will report every little incident that occures against K-Albanias in northern Mitro.
Agim Kelmendi

Knowing the kind of Serbian represals like that in Vojvodina in 1944, where 40,000 innocent Hungarian civilians were masacred for 4,000 Serbs (10:1 ratio)if the victimes of Gjakova would have been Serbs, Gjakova inhabited by Serbs and the passangers on the bus K-Albanians than none of the bus passangers would be alive today.

I knew it and I said to several friends yesterday that look out for b92 posting this news. Yes, it did happened, meaning the bus was stoned, but also bear in mind that Gjakova has the most victims of massacre in one morning 500 in mehe village+ hundreds more are still missing(from different ages and gender). I don't agree at all with this act of vandalism, but I take under consideration the feelings of these people that to this day they don;t know were their loved ones are.
I wish b92 will report every little incident that occures against K-Albanias in northern Mitro.

This sort of incidents happen to often I'm affraid. Kosova Express buscompany takes albanians from all over Europe through Serbia to Kosovo and I have yet to read about one single incident where serbs attacked a bus carrying albanians. It just showes who is more civilized out of the two peoples. Further it proves that serbs and albanians don't have a future together. Kosovo will be partitioned and that is thanks to albanian behaviour.
(MikeC, 27 February 2011 13:46)


1. Incidents against albanians happends in N.Mitrovica.
2. You don't have any reason to throw stones at albanians traveling trough Serbia because albanians have never come to Serbia to kill serbs. Serbs have killed and massacred albanians in Kosovo.
3. Kosovo independence(since partition is out of question) dosen't come from albanian behavour. It comes from Serbia since Serbia has repressed albanians for decades. Reamamber Milosevic or more far back Rankovic and many others. Just read a little bit and you will see!
4. One of the person who was in the bus was former major of Gjakova when Kosovo was part of f.yugo. This major has caused much pain to the people living in Gjakova and many albanian victims has gone trough his hands. He is the reason why people throwed stones at the bus and it is acceptable.
Go to Partesh (near gjilan) and see how serbs live and decide for your self if serbs are repressed in Kosovo in any how. Compare this to albanians living under serbian rule before 1999. You will see a big difference!!

This sort of incidents happen to often I'm affraid. Kosova Express buscompany takes albanians from all over Europe through Serbia to Kosovo and I have yet to read about one single incident where serbs attacked a bus carrying albanians. It just showes who is more civilized out of the two peoples. Further it proves that serbs and albanians don't have a future together. Kosovo will be partitioned and that is thanks to albanian behaviour.

MikeC wrote: "through Serbia to Kosovo and I have yet to read about one single incident" serbs can travell through Kosova with serbian plates, but we can not drive through serbia with Kosva plates.

This happens when you provoke Albanians when you,Serbs, enter Kosova in a uncivilized way.

Putting up the 3 fingers towards Albanians is provoking in a very primitive way.

Do not forget, these 3 fingers were a symbol of your army, para-military groups, cetniks, Arkan's group, ....

This so called symbol of yours has slaughtered many innocent Albanians ... and Albanians to not forget.

What comes around goes around!

Tung

Simple: Don't downplay those attacks as 'playing kids' and treat those attackers like it's done in any civilized country: By sending them to jail for at least 1 year (up to 5 years) for endangering traffic and recklessly endangering the health or life of travelers.

Kosovo Albanians behaving like saints, on All Souls Day - just another example of K Albos showing their love. It would be a lot wiser for them to go and stone Thaci's house, as that KLA organ-harvester is sinking Kosovo into a pit of evil crime and filth. One day, hopefully, KLA supporters will take their heads out of their butts, and see things rationally and with no bias.

The Kosovo Police (KPS) stated in a release that four persons took part in the stoning and that three men and a woman had been taken in for questioning on suspicion that they were involved in the incident.
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Three men and a woman? No excuse of kids doing it this time?

# Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?
(IUPM, 27 February 2011 17:42)

Let me teach you a little about Gjakova/ dakovica even before the war it did not have a big Serb population and all Serbs knew Albanian they had for long time only one street and thats where the street stands.

The people who came from Bosnia there they all armed caused a lot of pain to people in the city and surrounding villages. Old mayor he started to build a church in middle of town where 98% of population did not want it.

In south part of city he was building a area where from sky you could see CCCC in a cross.

In the war they slaughtered people in their homes though them out. Now 12 years later you want us to let them come back forget it.

they tried before no peaceful visits since we know that our beloved neighbors are the ones that killed our loved ones. As well we have many missing bodies that mothers want back, so please the ones who are coming back are those neighbors.

Its hard to understand unless you have lived here let the church be there no one touches it but dont come back ever

Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?
IUPM

If you would care to read some informative comments like Demi's one you would see that at least one, the ex-mayor committed crimes.

here you are,all of you throwing "verbal"stones to albanians.Despite the fact that none of you were really touched by the war in your family as the gjakovar were(gjakova being the city where most horrible crimes did happen thanks to these serbs).
You have to understand that it is your verbal stones that killed yesterday and will kill tomorrow:it is your propaganda that allowed your serbs to committ crimes without feeling and having the sentiment that it is a crime,it is your common attitude toward albanians that allows these crimes to happen yesterday and tomorrow;The fist step and first objective always begins with the depersonalisation and the desgumanisation of the people you have in front of you:you spent and spend hours and hours here to present albanians like animals and barbaric;Why? only for one purpose:to let feel you easy when you will kill them,to let feel you as not being a human who committed a crime against an other human.deshumanisation is always the first step for genocide and crime,it is well documented,and can be well documented in the serbian case too.
you do have a personel responsability here.You assume it,ok;
Then i am entitled to say that when you came in gjakova with your 3 fingers,it is just the same as if a SS was coming in aushwitzwith his arm saluting heil hitler!
I accept that you want to honor your death,but do accept that we too could have this possibility and do not forget that in gjakova hundreds of mother do not know where your army has sent their kids!
Is it precisly why you chose gjakova to "celebrate"?
If justice is not done here,we do believe in god and we do believe that He will do the job and be juste with all of us,

zoran,
Do not expect love from us for our neigbourgsafter what they have done!We Do acceept that they come to honor their loved one,that is already a goodwill effort for all these mothers that do not have the same privilege to honor the grave of their kids because your army took their kids and we do not know where they are resting now.
Do not abuse with provocation,because then you will have hate.These serbsare not coming just to honor theirs ones,some of them come to celebrate in the place of their crimes;And this is a evil attitude.

"We even have Joe predictably adding irrelevant stuff on Vojvodina just to add his two cents to sound informative.
Mike

This tells a lot about an "unpartial" community college teacher. For him crimes committed by Serbs are always irrelevant.

Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?

Wow, typical response from the Albanian side. Justifying crime as usual. Instead of condemning crime we hear why it should be allowed. Nothing has changed with this primitive mindset.

In the war they slaughtered people in their homes though them out. Now 12 years later you want us to let them come back forget it.
(Gjakovar, 27 February 2011 22:31)
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If there were murderers in that bus and you had evidence, why didn't you arrest them? Why didn't you provide that evidence to EULEX?

Einstein once said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I'm sorry, but committing crimes and violence over and over again, no matter what excuse you may invent, is not going to improve your situation.
(Zoran, 28 February 2011 11:28)

I promise you that we will keep them out where are my brothers Bones Where are my fathers bones until I get them back and put them to rest I will not sleep at night easy nor my mother.

12 years have past and for you mite be a lot Zoran but for me it seems like Yesterday when Serbian paramilitary entered my home and kicked me my mother and my sisster out but I have not seen my Brother or father since that day.

The agony the goes through my bones and body chills as I write this its only felt from ones who are in my tight heart and shoes.

So until they are back I will make sure with the strength I have no Serb is back and I want an apology.

they were neither KLA or anything else just regular citizens killed at rendom.

Till then out dont come back. I will never forget their voices as they hid behind masks as cowards.

Just keep it up. Every stone you throw just loses you international support for your criminal pseudo-state.

If world provinces were rated like ebay sellers,the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija would have the most negatives when it comes to tolerating any ethnic group other than Albanian.

"This happens when you provoke Albanians when you,Serbs, enter Kosova in a uncivilized way." (FREEDOM)

-- They were visiting the graves of loved ones and minding their own business. My God you're an insipidly vapid individual. By your thinking I couldn't care less for the Albanian cause.

"You avoid the topic at hand"
Mike

The topic at hand have to be seen in contest with events 11-20 years ago.
Some of those on the bus as I read committed crimes. Not proven? Well they s/b treated as suspects and their cases investigated. If proven guilty there s/b no excuses. There s/b justice for all. My sad experience on this site however is that Serbs don't see it that way.

Agim, did the people on the bus commit the crimes against Albanians that you are talking about, or do Albanians just lump all Serbs into one group that they hate?
(IUPM, 27 February 2011)

We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless criminals.

Demi

1. Incidents against albanians happends in N.Mitrovica.

-I have never heard of Serbs desecrating albanian cemetaries, trowing granades at albanian homes or burning down mosques?

2. You don't have any reason to throw stones at albanians traveling trough Serbia because albanians have never come to Serbia to kill serbs. Serbs have killed and massacred albanians in Kosovo.

-So you are collectivly juding all Serbs? Is that it? All Serbs are guilty? Why do you want the north to give up its resistence if you intend to get rid of them. Do you actually know what you are saying?
Besides, you are forgetting all albanian crimes agains serbs: organ harvesting, the burning down of hundreds of monasteries and churches, the deportation of 200.ooo kosovo serbs etc.
Not to mention albanian crimes against serbs during WW2. But I guess they don't count.
My wifes brother were nearly beaten to death by albanians in Istok. Why? His only crime was wanting to go back to HIS land and home.

3."Kosovo independence(since partition is out of question) dosen't come from albanian behavour. It comes from Serbia since Serbia has repressed albanians for decades. Reamamber Milosevic or more far back Rankovic and many others. Just read a little bit and you will see!"

-Sorry to dissapoint you but partition is a reality. The only way not to partition Kosovo is to ethnicly clense the north from all remaining serbs.
How come 1,9 million albanians remained in Kosovo if it indeed was that bad? How come albanians from Albania came to Kosovo if they feared the serbs? They fled Enver Hoxha to go to Kosovo. After the serb army left Kosovo thousands of albanians from Albania invaded Kosovo. Stealing appartment that belonged to serbs among other things.

4.One of the person who was in the bus was former major of Gjakova when Kosovo was part of f.yugo. This major has caused much pain to the people living in Gjakova and many albanian victims has gone trough his hands. He is the reason why people throwed stones at the bus and it is acceptable.
Go to Partesh (near gjilan) and see how serbs live and decide for your self if serbs are repressed in Kosovo in any how. Compare this to albanians living under serbian rule before 1999. You will see a big difference!!

-Oh please! Why didn't NATO arrest this guy if you have proof he commited crimes against albanians? You also forgot to mention that Arkan and Milosevic were on the bus as well. In every place in Kosovo where there are serbs they are accused of warcrimes by the albanians. No matter how old or yound, if they are serbs they must be warcriminals. You don't want serbs to return to Kosovo because you want to steal their houses and land, just like you are trying to steal Kosovo.

I have a question. Say, the government of some smaller country (Nepal) is now debating if recognizing Kosovo independence is a good idea or not.

Some people suggest that in order to understand the situation and make the decision the president and the king of that country should read the original B92 article and pay attention to all comments because they are a good mirror of the mentality in Kosovo.

I am curious, who does think it would be a good idea because it would provide a positive picture?

Thank you. 8-)

I don't need special technology, I just put my hand in there, it' called mixing business with pleasure.
(Joe, 28 February 2011 09:48)
ataman

How can you be so childish to fabricate something in my name? Something I never wrote. How low can you go? B92 is this type of undermining somebody allowed? What is the opinion of other readers about it?

They got caught, well done KP.

"He is the reason why people throwed stones at the bus and it is acceptable. "
(Demi, 27 February 2011 15:46)

Sorry, with this archaic self-justice attitude, there will never be a rule of law and democracy in Kosovo. What has to change first is the mentality of Albanians, if they wish to become civilized members of the European family.

"If you would care to read some informative comments like Demi's one you would see that at least one, the ex-mayor committed crimes.
(Joe, 27 February 2011 22:26) "

I think you and Demi just conttradicted yourselves. If this mayor did commit those crimes, why was he not arrested when he was in deep "Kosova" territory????

Moreover as a Yankee, Joe should know that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Or are we talking double standards of justice here?

In the war they slaughtered people in their homes though them out. Now 12 years later you want us to let them come back forget it.
(Gjakovar, 27 February 2011 22:31)
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If there were murderers in that bus and you had evidence, why didn't you arrest them? Why didn't you provide that evidence to EULEX?

Einstein once said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I'm sorry, but committing crimes and violence over and over again, no matter what excuse you may invent, is not going to improve your situation.

Real dissapointing to see this stuff still goes on in Kosovo. Even more disappointing to know the Albanian revisionists are once again hard at work downplaying this.

We even have Joe predictably adding irrelevant stuff on Vojvodina just to add his two cents to sound informative.

Bloody Serbian criminals. Always stoned on the bus. The Albanians probably provided them with the Mary Jane to facilitate being stoned in the first place!

We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless criminals.
(Zoti, 28 February 2011 21:15)

Than why you want to deal with them on B92? To convince a criminal that he is a criminal? And how about newborn criminals, where did they commit the crime?

At the moment you say their crime is that they did born you became a criminal.

BTW: read again what I wrote about King of Nepal (that was my post) and think a bit, what could be behind of that.
(Ataman, 1 March 2011 00:34)

Ataman
Thanks for replying to your comment. It was your comment on somebody's else nickname in this case Zoti.
Writing comments on hundreds of sick nicknames for a while was not enough so you decided to come up with new sick inventions that you call "sense of humor".

Albanians are physically incapable of committing crimes, that is unless their sponsors (US, UK, Fr, De etc.) change their mind. Only look at their cover up of KLA crimes over the last decade and the blind eye drawn by the Europea Parliament MEPs. Everyone has their favorites.

In the recent UN resolution on Libya, the US demanded an clause be added that foreign mercenaries be given immunity from prosecution by the ICC. Allowing that would have opened the US open to prosecution over their complicity in war crimes in the Balkans, the most obvious the support private US military contractors like MPRI (Military Professional Resources Incorporated) provided to the croats over Operations Storm and Flash.

There is no place in Europe for people like this who continue with such barbaric behavior and institutions that refuse to punish (effectively) such offenses. It is much closer to Turkey who along with Pakistan have practically no history of democratic development (i.e. mostly run by the military).

"This tells a lot about an "unpartial" community college teacher. For him crimes committed by Serbs are always irrelevant." (Joe)

-- So you're basically accusing me of overlooking crimes committed by Serbs within a comment thread attached to an article reporting on Albanians attacking/harrassing ordinary Serbs visiting the graves of their loved ones. Again. You avoid the topic at hand, you attempt to associate half-baked excuses for this event from other nationalists with something that took place nearly seventy years ago in a completely different place and context, and then you accuse me of being perennially biased and one-sided to a topic and criteria that you yourself crafted. Followed by the ad hominem remarks you've come to be known for whenever someone pisses you off for not taking what you say seriously.

Bravo Joe. I don't know whether to be offended or dumbfounded.

Really? 40+ comments over some stones being tossed at a bus?

The greatest WANTED war criminal on earth named Ratko Mladic is lounging in a cafe in Belgrade sipping Château De Beaulon Cognac.

Lets discuss meaningful news. Lets discuss why Serbia is protecting and hiding the most wanted man on this earth next to Osama Bin Laden.

Rest assured though, justice will be served to Mladic on this earth, or in the next life....

Thanks Hungarian Joe, I like happy endings, and the removal of Hungarian Nazis from Vojvodina qualifies. Unfortunately your post continues to qualify as a perverted attempt to justify and excuse terrorism by your Albanian buddies, but hey, at least your history lesson was good news in the end. I suspect more good news for Serbia will prevail in the end in Kosovo as well, as history has a tendency of repeating itself.

Joe,

How about the 100:1 (killed) or 50:1 (wounded) ratios for each Nazi that Serbs had to live with during WWII? It is not an excuse for the tragedy that innocent people had to endure, but it puts things in perspective, something that you constantly fail to demonstrate when you put your comments here.

They got caught, well done KP.
(Pejoni, 27 February 2011 17:59)
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Probably taken in to be congratulated. I'm sure they were released almost immediately as they haven't found any "proof" that the three did it.

Taken in for questioning says nothing. What happens next? Is someone going to follow up on this?

Just curious - although this action is inexcusable - what ever happened to the invaders that shot the Serbian children swimming back in 2002?? OR was that just swept under the rug of the "kosovo" government?

Like I mentioned - just curious....

If justice is not done here,we do believe in god and we do believe that He will do the job and be juste with all of us,
(lili, 28 February 2011 12:25)
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Are you justifying violence in God's name? What happened to love thy neighbour? Where in God's teachings does he allow people to throw stones at others?

It is time to move on from the past and embrace the present. There is peace now so remove the hatred and violence out of the system. Every side, yes I repeat, every side has its own stories of horror. If you continue to focus on hate and violence then that's what you get in return. It is the law of attraction.

12 years have past and for you mite be a lot Zoran but for me it seems like Yesterday when Serbian paramilitary entered my home and kicked me my mother and my sisster out but I have not seen my Brother or father since that day.

The agony the goes through my bones and body chills as I write this its only felt from ones who are in my tight heart and shoes.

So until they are back I will make sure with the strength I have no Serb is back and I want an apology.

they were neither KLA or anything else just regular citizens killed at rendom.

Till then out dont come back. I will never forget their voices as they hid behind masks as cowards.
(Gjakovar, 28 February 2011 16:13)
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I'm sorry to hear the sad story about your brother and father. It must be difficult to experience something like that. Feeding the cycle of violence keeps it going indefinitely as everyone has their own horror story. That is why true and honest negotiations are the only path to peace and prosperity. There is a window of opportunity for that now but it doesn't remain open forever.

In my books, the process of truth and reconciliation will probably give you the answers a lot faster than selective justice. If you want the truth then you have to seek it. Violence and hatred will only give you more violence and hatred.

Mike, be careful and keep guarding your privacy. 1-2-3 and you may feel someone's hand "mixing buziness and pleasure" where you don't expect it.. He can do it remotely, without any special technology.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=72933

Followed by the ad hominem remarks you've come to be known for whenever someone pisses you off for not taking what you say seriously.

Bravo Joe. I don't know whether to be offended or dumbfounded.
(Mike, 28 February 2011 18:45)

Looking at his comments, in particular last few here:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=72933

I don't think he takes even himself seriously - actually, Joe had hilarious comments if you assume, he is a parody/fake character.

There is no other explanation, see the one with "mixing business with pleasure". No one can write it in earnest but it did brighten my day. Joe did manage to get a "+" from me, hope it will show up.

Thank you Joe, my next vacation is in New York. But I hope, we won't get down to buziness with each other.

Joe said, "This tells a lot about an "unpartial" community college teacher."

What a hoot!
The curmudgeon attempts to insult and it backfires on him. Foolish.

I don't know if Mike teaches at the community college level, but I bet he knows to spell "IMPARTIAL" correctly.

If you're going to attempt to insult someone, Joe, at least do it correctly.

How can you be so childish to fabricate something in my name? Something I never wrote. How low can you go? B92 is this type of undermining somebody allowed? What is the opinion of other readers about it?
(Joe, 28 February 2011 21:14)

I clearly remember that B92 did chastise few people by posting contradicting writings from the same IP address under different names. Otherwise I see no single reason I would write funny things in your name. Someone could make a joke, yes. But that IP should be pretty close geographically to yours and I have no friggin idea what is your IP and have no interest to learn it. You probably know that IP addresses are logged and if there is a controversy much can be retrieved.

You may get impression, you are terribly important because at some point few people from a pretty large area were curious who you are. It's less about the person, more about the shockingly stupid comments that person produced, even compared with some others on B92.

We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless criminals.
(Zoti, 28 February 2011 21:15)

Than why you want to deal with them on B92? To convince a criminal that he is a criminal? And how about newborn criminals, where did they commit the crime?

At the moment you say their crime is that they did born you became a criminal.

BTW: read again what I wrote about King of Nepal (that was my post) and think a bit, what could be behind of that.

"We don't distinguish between Serbs, to us ALL Serbs are heartless
criminals."
Zoti

Irrational, totally irrational.

Zoti is not me. The "Nepal recognizes Kosovo" is me. If you read that comment you realize what is behind of it. Read again - you totally misunderstood.
(Ataman, 1 March 2011)

True, Ataman never posted under my name.

My statement was meant to be incendiary. We put up with this "ALL Albanians are criminals" attitude from the Serb camp on a daily basis. Just wished you experience what it feels like since B92 is very selective on posts attacking Serbs and the Serb nation in general.

I promise you that we will keep them out where are my brothers Bones Where are my fathers bones until I get them back and put them to rest I will not sleep at night easy nor my mother.

12 years have past and for you mite be a lot Zoran but for me it seems like Yesterday when Serbian paramilitary entered my home and kicked me my mother and my sisster out but I have not seen my Brother or father since that day.

The agony the goes through my bones and body chills as I write this its only felt from ones who are in my tight heart and shoes.

So until they are back I will make sure with the strength I have no Serb is back and I want an apology.

they were neither KLA or anything else just regular citizens killed at rendom.

Till then out dont come back. I will never forget their voices as they hid behind masks as cowards.
(Gjakovar, 28 February 2011 16:13)

Horrible story, Gjakovar. Maybe not much comfort for you, but be sure: they were not "as cowards", just "cowards" among other much worse things. The masks were for a good reason: everyone I know in Serbia would report them to the proper place. They knew that what they are doing is rejected by most people. Otherwise why did they wear masks?

Ataman
Thanks for replying to your comment. It was your comment on somebody's else nickname in this case Zoti.
Writing comments on hundreds of sick nicknames for a while was not enough so you decided to come up with new sick inventions that you call "sense of humor".
(Simpatiku, 1 March 2011 12:12)

Zoti is not me. The "Nepal recognizes Kosovo" is me. If you read that comment you realize what is behind of it. Read again - you totally misunderstood.