Russia won't "whip up tensions in region"

Criminal regimes everywhere are shaking in their boots. Tunisia, Egypt and now Libya. The Putin regime must be very worried that their citizens will not be intimidated by their security apparatus much longer.

This winds of freedom are blowing, Gadaffi is not the only one to be worried....

Translation: "we won't accept it but we won't do anything either because we're even more bankrupt than the Yanks, we don't have any military capacity in the region nor any diplomatic influence with anyone we don't sell gas to".

No, our one and a half superpowers are out of the game on this occasion, it's all down to what the Arabs themselves decide to do.

"The Putin regime must be very worried that their citizens will not be intimidated by their security apparatus much longer. "

You have a point. Most likely worried but I don't think "very worried" because the Russian security apparatus is very powerful and I can hardly see any Libyan type revolte in Russia for the next 8-10 years.

"This winds of freedom are blowing, Gadaffi is not the only one to be worried...."
Sebastian

And the Putin regime was always a great supporter of Gaddafi. No wonder that they put out this kind of statement to help their embattled friend.

And the Putin regime was always a great supporter of Gaddafi. No wonder that they put out this kind of statement to help their embattled friend.
(Joe, 24 February 2011 20:30)

Now who did we see kissing Kadafyi’s backside recently and claiming he was a partner in the fight against terror? Why Tony Blair, Barak Obama, Sakozi and many other western leaders – why even the Queen of England received him like a long lost friend . UK companies are in Libya looking for oil right now.
You want to try and remove that size 16 boot out of your mouth or maybe rephrase your comment.

You should have realized by now that I can't be silenced by personal attacks. I don't accept double standards for any ethnic group, race or religion.
(Joe, 25 February 2011 19:23)

Don't worry, Joe - by now everyone realized pretty much everything about that "character" you represent or pretend to represent. High five.

Who really cares what happens in the Middle East and the Arab Countries. All those fanatical muslim countries have left their scars on Europe.

Let Turkey take care of their neighbour's problems. Turkey should worry about their jihad brothers and stay out of Christan Europe.

Better yet, how about Albania and their brothers living in KOSOVO go back to their homeland of the Middle East and help solve the unrest.

Joe said, "What I wrote was the full truth. Nobody denied it. Those people I accused were all criminals and should have been punished."

Why should we believe you? In your arrogance you are both judge and jury.

Those people you accused.. gross generalization - dangerous collective guilt- all Hungarian Jews.

Thank God all Hungarian immigrants who come to America are not like you.

"Arrogance and rudeness are training wheels on the bicycle of life -- for weak people who cannot keep their balance without them."

You want to try and remove that size 16 boot out of your mouth or maybe rephrase your comment.
(sj, 25 February 2011 01:12)

Re-appearing on B92 after February 7 requires a very thick skin - more thick than the iron the non-existing German tanks had, I mean the ones "beating" the non-existing Polish cavalry attack.

With such thick skin no chance to remove that boot - it just stuck there forever.

rohardszki-bibsi

(Joe, 25 February 2011 15:58)

Translation:

"bibsi" = "Jew" (very pejorative)
"rohardszki" = "rotten", with bad grammar.

ROFL, you continue where you stopped. How about Irish and Belarus? This is missing. BTW - really, do Albanians need such "support"?

"Re-appearing on B92 after February 7 requires a very thick skin"
rohardszki-bibsi

What I wrote was the full truth. Nobody denied it. Those people I accused were all criminals and should have been punished.

Why should we believe you?
Roger7

Than find out the truth yourself. There is enough info available.
You like some other Jews can't accept any ctiticism or well-nown facts. Instead of acknowledging those facts you try to attack anybody who dares to speak out. You should have realized by now that I can't be silenced by personal attacks. I don't accept double standards for any ethnic group, race or religion.

Thank God all Hungarian immigrants who come to America are not like you.
(Roger7, 25 February 2011 17:08)

Roger,

It's about maybe 10%, but very nasty 10%. If the original poster is the same as Joe Henel than J.H. just made up a character like that. I rather believe this is the case because if that "Joe" is for real - his dumbness and bigotry displayed here just do not bode well with someone who claims to be a successful person in Germany and France before moving to the States.

Even following a well-described standard procedure before filling out a simple passport application, both in his once-native language is a problem.

With such mental "capacity" and looking at his comments one has to wonder about this character being fictive or not. Plus quite a few things contradict each other in the CV.

"all Hungarian immigrants who come to America are not like you. "
Roger7

I agree. Many were Jewish who committed crimes before 1956 and fled fearing popular anger.

I agree. Many were Jewish who committed crimes before 1956 and fled fearing popular anger.
(Joe, 25 February 2011 20:47)

We can put as much lipstick on a true nazi as we want, it still will be a nazi... with lipstick. You can try of course your "best", but as I said, we got into that entire thing by accident. Unfortunately for you - it's an Irish nobleman family name, Joe. And there were Irish settlers in Transylvania... the rest is a very interesting story but not your business.

The only good news for you is in Matthew 5:3

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
("boldogok a lelki szegények mert övék a mennyek országa")

Apropos, "poor in spirit". Looking at your Hungarian spelling no wonder that even the new government did not restore your citizenship. I certainly would not. ;-)

Joe,

What you wrote is pure insanity. No one need your personal ID if you have passport. But you are a fake with 99% chance - just please do not spread lies about the country.

I would like really to see anyone's response from any Hungarian consulate about this. It's just a blatant lie, straight in our face.

"someone who claims to be a successful person in Germany and France before moving to the States.

Even following a well-described standard procedure before filling out a simple passport application, both in his once-native language is a problem. "
senkihazi biboldozky

Actually I enjoy all these distortions because they show me your terrible personal insecurity and inferiority complex. Already Hruz noted once that disperaging Hungarians is your speciality. Everybody sees it by now.

I never ever requested a form for a renewal much less trying to fill it out. Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?

Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?
(Joe, 26 February 2011 02:25)

Do not want to speak about the rest of your writing - but what you wrote here is 100% stupidity and 0% truth. It's also probably 100% sour grapes.

1) There is no "third degree citizen". What you said makes the Hungarian citizenship look pretty bad, in particular for ones in Ukraine or Vojvodina. You spit in own face with that but hey...

2) Personal ID is not needed. According the law you do not need ID if you have a passport.

3) The citizenship discovery procedure (as it is called) is relatively simple, minimal papers are needed, forms are informal and is cheap. Wonder how come one can't go through it. With the same diligence you post these "gems" on B92 you could get rid of your inferiority complex and get that stupid piece of paper. Looks like a man can still have a PMS.

Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?
(Joe, 26 February 2011 02:25)

"Do not want to speak about the rest of your writing - but what you wrote here is 100% stupidity and 0% truth."

Well you try hard gospodin foreigner your usual distortions but I will rebuff them again with facts.

1) There is no "third degree citizen".

Wrong. In the nineties when most of us obtained the Hungarian passport we noticed shortly after that not having any other Hungarian official paper like personal ID, Hungarian senior ID, etc we are traited in Hungary as third degree citizens ....not one degree better than any foreigner (actually citizens of EU countries are treated much, much better).

Few examples:
- Seniors travel free or almost free in Hungary. An American senior with a Hungarian passport has to pay because he does not have the Hungarian senor ID.
Senors of EU countries enjoy the same privilages than Hungarian citizens except those American Hungarians who in practice are traited differently as third degree. The same goes for seniors visiting museums. There too the discrimination of being only a third class citizen kicks in. I would have many other examples. Anyway when I raised the subject of being treated like citizen of third category the aswer was "American Hungarians can afford to pay the full price". Thank God we can afford it but it is about the principle of eguality amoung citizens. If it does not exist you create a category of third class citizens. By the way in the US even foreigners with foreign passports can enjoy the 50% seior fares.


"What you said makes the Hungarian citizenship look pretty bad, in particular for ones in Ukraine or Vojvodina. "

Actually I hope they will get more "citizenship" than the American Hungarians got with that fake, useless Hungarian passport I just described above. I hope they will be treated better than Hungarian Americans.

"2) Personal ID is not needed. According the law you do not need ID if you have a passport. "

False again. See my examples above.


"discovery procedure (as it is called) is relatively simple, minimal papers are needed, forms are informal and is cheap. Wonder how come one can't go through it."
Ataman

Minimal papers? Wow! Lately for renawal the birth and marriage certificates of dead parents are also have to be provided. Try to get them if they were born before Trianon outside of the current borders. And getting them for what? To obtain the staus of a citizen of third class described above?
No American Hungarian needs that humiliation a second time.




(Ataman, 26 February 2011 14:34)

Here is it again without the link. The truth has to be told:

Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?
(Joe, 26 February 2011 02:25)

"Do not want to speak about the rest of your writing - but what you wrote here is 100% stupidity and 0% truth."
ataman

Well you try hard gospodin foreigner your usual distortions but I will rebuff them again with facts.

1) There is no "third degree citizen".
ataman

Wrong. In the nineties when most of us obtained the Hungarian passport we noticed shortly after that not having any other Hungarian official paper like personal ID, Hungarian senior ID, etc we are traited in Hungary as third degree citizens ....not one degree better than any foreigner (actually citizens of EU countries are treated much, much better).

Few examples:
- Seniors travel free or almost free in Hungary. An American senior with a Hungarian passport has to pay because he does not have the Hungarian senor ID.
Senors of EU countries enjoy the same privilages than Hungarian citizens except those American Hungarians who in practice are traited differently as third degree. The same goes for seniors visiting museums. There too the discrimination of being only a third class citizen kicks in. I would have many other examples. Anyway when I raised the subject of being treated like citizen of third category the aswer was "American Hungarians can afford to pay the full price". Thank God we can afford it but it is about the principle of eguality amoung citizens. If it does not exist you create a category of third class citizens. By the way in the US even foreigners with foreign passports can enjoy the 50% seior fares.


"What you said makes the Hungarian citizenship look pretty bad, in particular for ones in Ukraine or Vojvodina. "
ataman

Actually I hope they will get more "citizenship" than the American Hungarians got with that fake, useless Hungarian passport I just described above. I hope they will be treated better than Hungarian Americans.

"2) Personal ID is not needed. According the law you do not need ID if you have a passport. "
ataman

False again. See my examples above.


"discovery procedure (as it is called) is relatively simple, minimal papers are needed, forms are informal and is cheap. Wonder how come one can't go through it."
Ataman

Minimal papers? Wow! Lately for renawal the birth and marriage certificates of dead parents are also have to be provided. Try to get them if they were born before Trianon outside of the current borders. And getting them for what? To obtain the staus of a citizen of third class described above?
No American Hungarian needs that humiliation a second time.

Who really cares what happens in the Middle East and the Arab Countries. All those fanatical muslim countries have left their scars on Europe.

Let Turkey take care of their neighbour's problems. Turkey should worry about their jihad brothers and stay out of Christan Europe.

Better yet, how about Albania and their brothers living in KOSOVO go back to their homeland of the Middle East and help solve the unrest.

Translation: "we won't accept it but we won't do anything either because we're even more bankrupt than the Yanks, we don't have any military capacity in the region nor any diplomatic influence with anyone we don't sell gas to".

No, our one and a half superpowers are out of the game on this occasion, it's all down to what the Arabs themselves decide to do.

And the Putin regime was always a great supporter of Gaddafi. No wonder that they put out this kind of statement to help their embattled friend.
(Joe, 24 February 2011 20:30)

Now who did we see kissing Kadafyi’s backside recently and claiming he was a partner in the fight against terror? Why Tony Blair, Barak Obama, Sakozi and many other western leaders – why even the Queen of England received him like a long lost friend . UK companies are in Libya looking for oil right now.
You want to try and remove that size 16 boot out of your mouth or maybe rephrase your comment.

"Re-appearing on B92 after February 7 requires a very thick skin"
rohardszki-bibsi

What I wrote was the full truth. Nobody denied it. Those people I accused were all criminals and should have been punished.

You want to try and remove that size 16 boot out of your mouth or maybe rephrase your comment.
(sj, 25 February 2011 01:12)

Re-appearing on B92 after February 7 requires a very thick skin - more thick than the iron the non-existing German tanks had, I mean the ones "beating" the non-existing Polish cavalry attack.

With such thick skin no chance to remove that boot - it just stuck there forever.

Joe said, "What I wrote was the full truth. Nobody denied it. Those people I accused were all criminals and should have been punished."

Why should we believe you? In your arrogance you are both judge and jury.

Those people you accused.. gross generalization - dangerous collective guilt- all Hungarian Jews.

Thank God all Hungarian immigrants who come to America are not like you.

"Arrogance and rudeness are training wheels on the bicycle of life -- for weak people who cannot keep their balance without them."

rohardszki-bibsi

(Joe, 25 February 2011 15:58)

Translation:

"bibsi" = "Jew" (very pejorative)
"rohardszki" = "rotten", with bad grammar.

ROFL, you continue where you stopped. How about Irish and Belarus? This is missing. BTW - really, do Albanians need such "support"?

Criminal regimes everywhere are shaking in their boots. Tunisia, Egypt and now Libya. The Putin regime must be very worried that their citizens will not be intimidated by their security apparatus much longer.

This winds of freedom are blowing, Gadaffi is not the only one to be worried....

Why should we believe you?
Roger7

Than find out the truth yourself. There is enough info available.
You like some other Jews can't accept any ctiticism or well-nown facts. Instead of acknowledging those facts you try to attack anybody who dares to speak out. You should have realized by now that I can't be silenced by personal attacks. I don't accept double standards for any ethnic group, race or religion.

You should have realized by now that I can't be silenced by personal attacks. I don't accept double standards for any ethnic group, race or religion.
(Joe, 25 February 2011 19:23)

Don't worry, Joe - by now everyone realized pretty much everything about that "character" you represent or pretend to represent. High five.

"all Hungarian immigrants who come to America are not like you. "
Roger7

I agree. Many were Jewish who committed crimes before 1956 and fled fearing popular anger.

"someone who claims to be a successful person in Germany and France before moving to the States.

Even following a well-described standard procedure before filling out a simple passport application, both in his once-native language is a problem. "
senkihazi biboldozky

Actually I enjoy all these distortions because they show me your terrible personal insecurity and inferiority complex. Already Hruz noted once that disperaging Hungarians is your speciality. Everybody sees it by now.

I never ever requested a form for a renewal much less trying to fill it out. Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?

"The Putin regime must be very worried that their citizens will not be intimidated by their security apparatus much longer. "

You have a point. Most likely worried but I don't think "very worried" because the Russian security apparatus is very powerful and I can hardly see any Libyan type revolte in Russia for the next 8-10 years.

"This winds of freedom are blowing, Gadaffi is not the only one to be worried...."
Sebastian

And the Putin regime was always a great supporter of Gaddafi. No wonder that they put out this kind of statement to help their embattled friend.

Thank God all Hungarian immigrants who come to America are not like you.
(Roger7, 25 February 2011 17:08)

Roger,

It's about maybe 10%, but very nasty 10%. If the original poster is the same as Joe Henel than J.H. just made up a character like that. I rather believe this is the case because if that "Joe" is for real - his dumbness and bigotry displayed here just do not bode well with someone who claims to be a successful person in Germany and France before moving to the States.

Even following a well-described standard procedure before filling out a simple passport application, both in his once-native language is a problem.

With such mental "capacity" and looking at his comments one has to wonder about this character being fictive or not. Plus quite a few things contradict each other in the CV.

Here is it again without the link. The truth has to be told:

Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?
(Joe, 26 February 2011 02:25)

"Do not want to speak about the rest of your writing - but what you wrote here is 100% stupidity and 0% truth."
ataman

Well you try hard gospodin foreigner your usual distortions but I will rebuff them again with facts.

1) There is no "third degree citizen".
ataman

Wrong. In the nineties when most of us obtained the Hungarian passport we noticed shortly after that not having any other Hungarian official paper like personal ID, Hungarian senior ID, etc we are traited in Hungary as third degree citizens ....not one degree better than any foreigner (actually citizens of EU countries are treated much, much better).

Few examples:
- Seniors travel free or almost free in Hungary. An American senior with a Hungarian passport has to pay because he does not have the Hungarian senor ID.
Senors of EU countries enjoy the same privilages than Hungarian citizens except those American Hungarians who in practice are traited differently as third degree. The same goes for seniors visiting museums. There too the discrimination of being only a third class citizen kicks in. I would have many other examples. Anyway when I raised the subject of being treated like citizen of third category the aswer was "American Hungarians can afford to pay the full price". Thank God we can afford it but it is about the principle of eguality amoung citizens. If it does not exist you create a category of third class citizens. By the way in the US even foreigners with foreign passports can enjoy the 50% seior fares.


"What you said makes the Hungarian citizenship look pretty bad, in particular for ones in Ukraine or Vojvodina. "
ataman

Actually I hope they will get more "citizenship" than the American Hungarians got with that fake, useless Hungarian passport I just described above. I hope they will be treated better than Hungarian Americans.

"2) Personal ID is not needed. According the law you do not need ID if you have a passport. "
ataman

False again. See my examples above.


"discovery procedure (as it is called) is relatively simple, minimal papers are needed, forms are informal and is cheap. Wonder how come one can't go through it."
Ataman

Minimal papers? Wow! Lately for renawal the birth and marriage certificates of dead parents are also have to be provided. Try to get them if they were born before Trianon outside of the current borders. And getting them for what? To obtain the staus of a citizen of third class described above?
No American Hungarian needs that humiliation a second time.

I agree. Many were Jewish who committed crimes before 1956 and fled fearing popular anger.
(Joe, 25 February 2011 20:47)

We can put as much lipstick on a true nazi as we want, it still will be a nazi... with lipstick. You can try of course your "best", but as I said, we got into that entire thing by accident. Unfortunately for you - it's an Irish nobleman family name, Joe. And there were Irish settlers in Transylvania... the rest is a very interesting story but not your business.

The only good news for you is in Matthew 5:3

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
("boldogok a lelki szegények mert övék a mennyek országa")

Apropos, "poor in spirit". Looking at your Hungarian spelling no wonder that even the new government did not restore your citizenship. I certainly would not. ;-)

Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?
(Joe, 26 February 2011 02:25)

Do not want to speak about the rest of your writing - but what you wrote here is 100% stupidity and 0% truth. It's also probably 100% sour grapes.

1) There is no "third degree citizen". What you said makes the Hungarian citizenship look pretty bad, in particular for ones in Ukraine or Vojvodina. You spit in own face with that but hey...

2) Personal ID is not needed. According the law you do not need ID if you have a passport.

3) The citizenship discovery procedure (as it is called) is relatively simple, minimal papers are needed, forms are informal and is cheap. Wonder how come one can't go through it. With the same diligence you post these "gems" on B92 you could get rid of your inferiority complex and get that stupid piece of paper. Looks like a man can still have a PMS.

Who needs a worthless passport of third degree citizen absolutely useless without a personal ID ?
(Joe, 26 February 2011 02:25)

"Do not want to speak about the rest of your writing - but what you wrote here is 100% stupidity and 0% truth."

Well you try hard gospodin foreigner your usual distortions but I will rebuff them again with facts.

1) There is no "third degree citizen".

Wrong. In the nineties when most of us obtained the Hungarian passport we noticed shortly after that not having any other Hungarian official paper like personal ID, Hungarian senior ID, etc we are traited in Hungary as third degree citizens ....not one degree better than any foreigner (actually citizens of EU countries are treated much, much better).

Few examples:
- Seniors travel free or almost free in Hungary. An American senior with a Hungarian passport has to pay because he does not have the Hungarian senor ID.
Senors of EU countries enjoy the same privilages than Hungarian citizens except those American Hungarians who in practice are traited differently as third degree. The same goes for seniors visiting museums. There too the discrimination of being only a third class citizen kicks in. I would have many other examples. Anyway when I raised the subject of being treated like citizen of third category the aswer was "American Hungarians can afford to pay the full price". Thank God we can afford it but it is about the principle of eguality amoung citizens. If it does not exist you create a category of third class citizens. By the way in the US even foreigners with foreign passports can enjoy the 50% seior fares.


"What you said makes the Hungarian citizenship look pretty bad, in particular for ones in Ukraine or Vojvodina. "

Actually I hope they will get more "citizenship" than the American Hungarians got with that fake, useless Hungarian passport I just described above. I hope they will be treated better than Hungarian Americans.

"2) Personal ID is not needed. According the law you do not need ID if you have a passport. "

False again. See my examples above.


"discovery procedure (as it is called) is relatively simple, minimal papers are needed, forms are informal and is cheap. Wonder how come one can't go through it."
Ataman

Minimal papers? Wow! Lately for renawal the birth and marriage certificates of dead parents are also have to be provided. Try to get them if they were born before Trianon outside of the current borders. And getting them for what? To obtain the staus of a citizen of third class described above?
No American Hungarian needs that humiliation a second time.




(Ataman, 26 February 2011 14:34)

Joe,

What you wrote is pure insanity. No one need your personal ID if you have passport. But you are a fake with 99% chance - just please do not spread lies about the country.

I would like really to see anyone's response from any Hungarian consulate about this. It's just a blatant lie, straight in our face.