Serbians attacked, stranded in Libya

Agim, read Albanian history, you have always licked the boots of your overlord, be it the Turks, the German Nazi's, the USA, or Brussels, so please stop your BS about some non-existent Albanian high morality or pride. You guys are historic sellouts of epic proportion. As for the stranded Serbs in Libya, may they all get home safe and sound. Many workers, from many countries go abroad to follow where the jobs are, just look at all the American contractors that work in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Thus far between 600 and 700 Serbian citizens have contacted the embassy in Libya, but it is estimated that the number is higher.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.

As for the attack, it must have been KLA. Call Dick Marty to writte e report.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)
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What kind of a racist comment is that? Calling Libyans/Arabs "towel heads".

Also, what do you think, Serbian's don't go to Western countries? We are accepted and respected all around the world.

Wow, talk about simple black and white minds.

@ Agim
Many Serbs go to these Arab countries as engineers, architects and other professional jobs working with Serbian as well as foreign companies. They are well paid and well respected as professionals.
Not everything is as you wish to see it. Other countries form the Balkans also have their citizens working there as professionals.

Agim,
Your usage of derogatory terms for Arab peoples - it shows alot about your weak intelligence and lack of tolerance towards others.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)

So "towel head" is acceptable terminology now is it? Does that mean we can use "siptar" too?

"wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads."
Agim Kelmendi

Serbs in these countries go there to work, just like many westeners. On the other hand, albanians that come to western countries come here to take advantage of the wellfare system.

What happened? I thought Libyans and Serbs were great friends. Maybe Serbs and Libyan dictator were great friends, not people of Libya.

I find it incedible that there are still people who support this Benny Hill character Gaddafi and his brutal regime.

Personally I'd like to see him stand trial but if he insists on fighting to the last bullet then so be it.

Can't wait for the wave of upraisings to reach Saudi Arabia.

" Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!"
highduke

This is a good one. It tells all about you. Already yesterday under under the article Libyan protests leave 200 dead" I asked where are the Serbian commentators. Sure enough I was promptly censured.

"At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads." (Agim Kelmendi)

-- I suppose that support for Kosovo from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Jordan and the UAE is meaningless then?

As I remember Serbs build dissident prisons and military structures for the despot Qaddafi lunatic fringe of Libya. Help maintain the Ex Yugo Russian equipment so Qaddafi can make many war on its neighbours and on his own people but Serbs see nothing wrong with it. That is very much similar what Serbs did and they think its normal in Ex Yugo. I guess when despot Qaddafi gets deposed of to Belgrade Serbia here I come like all the other war criminals that find a safe heaven in Serbia. As I remember Serbias defence and economic minister boasting so recently how much military contract are waiting to be picked by them in Libya. Like the old adage dont count your chickens before they hatch.

These CIA-organized mobs deliberately attacked Serbs bc we love Ghadaffi. Let it be know that Serb people & our state consider many Arab/Muslim nations as allies. We are not anti-Muslim, just against Muslim imperialism. MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!
(highduke, 21 February 2011 12:55)


If I am not mistaken I think it was you or Zoran that spoke little to soon about Mubarak hanging on to power. The next day he was gone.You can have all the towel heads of this planet, I would rather stick with civilized world.

So Kelmendi displays his true colours at last. The Arab world by and large doesn't support Kosmet seperatism because they see it for what it is ie. US engineered fraud. Thus they're a bunch of 'ragheads.' Kelmendi's view of the world is; if they support us we'll go and spend our vacation there. If they're opposed, well then they're trash. If this is what shapes your world view, I pity you. You and your cronies are driven by only one thing; how many countries can we hoodwink into recognising our miserable independence. Never mind the corruption, the stagnation, the unemployment, the criminals and gangsters running your entity. As long as you can linger over an espresso for hours on end and watch the world trundle by in downtown Pristina then everything's okay. There's more to life then scoring cheap points pal. Those guys down in Libya were probably working on some engineering project. Education and work. Much more productive than racist bigotry. You should try it some time. Make you feel better.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)

Wow-this coming from cone heads who are happy to be pizza delivery boys in NY and play cowboys on internet..stick to what you know the best-protecting organ harvester..aka uncle..

Ridiculous pointless lies, from an American. You speak for no Serb because you are not even one yourself.

Leave it up to a B92 thread to take the possibility of civil war in Libya and move it into whether Serbs or Albanians suck more.

- You suck.
- Yeah you're right, they suck
- No, YOU suck more.
- Oh yeah? Well your Mom.

The British papers are saying that family of the embassy staff and BP workers are being flown out, so it doesn't sound as though it should be that difficult to evacuate the Serbs working there. It's up to the Russian companies they're working for, though, isn't it?

From the number of times young Sword-of-Islam mentioned foreign investors in his speech last night it sounds like he and his father are more worried about the commercial damage that may be done to the country than the diplomatic consequences.

These CIA-organized mobs deliberately attacked Serbs bc we love Ghadaffi. Let it be know that Serb people & our state consider many Arab/Muslim nations as allies. We are not anti-Muslim, just against Muslim imperialism. MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!

highduke,

I'm a bit puzzled! You keep on glorifying Gaddafi but spit on Thaci.

Such a different attitude towards these two righteous, great and progressive leaders of their peoples!

"A source in Caracas is denying reports that Gaddafi is on his way there - [link]. Cuba would seem to be a better choice, don't you think, from the standpoint of security?" (Amer)

-- I heard about that too. Don't know if this is one of those "state visits" a la Ceausescu going to Iran while Timisoara was rebelling, or whether he's planning ahead for a safe haven. If it's the latter, it makes more sense than Cuba. As much as he raises doubts about it time and again, I'm convinced that Castro will at one point die. Hugo has at least 30 more years of state-sponsored Bolivarianism to bless his people with.

"All the exposure to the Western press seems to be having an effect on the posters here, BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher." (Amer)

-- Don't know what you're checking, but the Serbian language version of B92 has a wide spectrum of opinion on Qaddafi. I haven't read all the commets, but there's certainly a citizen-diaspora divide. Because as we know, diaspora nationalists know far more about what their country is doing or should be doing that those who live there :)

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.

There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

No "Khalid", I think you'll find their KosAlbs. You see none of them have a job at home but they don't mind killing people for money and, since their religion is "albanianism", they don't mind hurting fellow Moslems.

Albo troll of the week!

These CIA-organized mobs deliberately attacked Serbs bc we love Ghadaffi. Let it be know that Serb people & our state consider many Arab/Muslim nations as allies. We are not anti-Muslim, just against Muslim imperialism. MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!
(highduke, 21 February 2011 12:55)

Yes, right , ok. The CIA did all this just to attck Serbians working in Libya.

And just who appointed you to talk on behlaf of ANYONE let alone on behalf of all Serbs.

B92 - please be aware. You censor pionts that are based on logic and empirical history yet you allow the comical fantasies written by self appionted bigots. Your standards are slipping. Im no longer sure if you are a news portal or the comedy chanel.

What happened? I thought Libyans and Serbs were great friends. Maybe Serbs and Libyan dictator were great friends, not people of Libya.
(ivan, 21 February 2011 17:18)

As you by any chance competing with Agim for the most stupid comment, go on, you are very close to your goal....
As to the hatry, you still have to catch Lenard, he is far ahead...
Poor guys !

"There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this."
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

Who knows Khalid. The experience in combat during 4 years of wars in the Balkans is a skill that can be used to make money in situations like these. Strong ties between Serbia and Gheddafi can help a lot too. It is common knowledge that to get a job you need networking and friends. And Serbia certainly has done a lot of networking. Which brings to the questions: maybe these people the article talks about are being attacked as a revenge? Maybe not all of them are workers? but these are just guesses.

I would not be surprised to find other mercenaries too. In these difficult moments, Gheddafi can only count on the loyalty that he can buy. And that of a few close people.

Wikileaks was mentioning an arms traffic between Serbian mafia and Yemen and Sirya too some time ago. Value of 75 million dollars. Via Albanian ports. Americans were worried because countries who should not get arms were getting arms via Serbia. Which again shows that Serbia certainly has a lot of connections in the Middle East, so I would not be surprised if there were Serb mercenaries with Gheddafi. Legacy of the non-aligned movement after all. Whoever thought it was about peace in the world was wrong.

Leave it up to a B92 thread to take the possibility of civil war in Libya and move it into whether Serbs or Albanians suck more.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 17:37)

That’s because they’re essentially the same. Fair enough, there are some Serbs, and I emphasise SOME, who have observed the ways of the white man and could pass for European – you’ll find a few in Belgrade like that – but go down to Mitrovica and it’s like the Planet of the Apes, whatever side of the river you’re on.

B92, where are you? Aircraft are strafing people and cars in Tripoli, the UN delegation - not to mention various ambassadors in other countries - has denounced the government for attacking its own people, two Libyan jets have landed in Malta after refusing orders to fire on their countrymen ...

Were Serbs this apathetic about the fall of the Berlin Wall?

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)

This what you do in western counties in Lybia is punishable by death. No wonder why you dont go to Lybia.

The most nonsense comment I have ever read on this forum. You obsession to link everything negative to Serbia or Serbs with Albanians is simply ridiculous. Need I to remind you how Serbian criminal mercenaries have been found from Africa to drug cartels of south America. You need to explain it to Khalid and not to write rubbish as always.
(Endri, 22 February 2011 14:29)

The nonsense is all yours, my friend. "Khalid" is not a Libyan, whiling away the time while his country slides into civil war by reading B92 (very likely). He is persistent troll Kosova-USA, seen making the same idiotic point here http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=72852. No one who knew the slightest thing about Libya, let alone lived there, would ever claim that Gaddafi had Christian, European mercenaries working for him. To do so would be to undermine in an instant the pan-Arab, pan-Africanist, anti-imperialist stance which Gadaffi has taken since coming to power in 1969.

The Serbs, Bosnians and, in far greater numbers, Italians and British who work in Libya are almost all engineers employed in the oil and gas industry and to malign them as "mercenaries" to score pathetic ethnic points puts their lives at risk and is the most idiotic form of irresponsible behaviour.

Of course If you and Kosova-USA have evidence to the contrary then please do share it with us. I'm waiting...

"Clinton + Blair are criminals and should be hanged.
(Ataman, 22 February 2011 01:08) "

Did you have any other suggestions at the time on how to deal with Milosevic? The General Assembly had passed resolutions for years calling on him to stop persecuting the ethnic-Albanians in Kosovo, and they had their usual effect. If Milosevic had been interested in settling the problems in Kosovo, there had been a non-violent movement willing to negotiate for a decade. After Srebrenica, the US and the UK were not about to let him have another try at his preferred option, removing the problematic population.

Gaddafi says, “In my country, the people rule through the work of the revolutionary councils." The sadistic-minded from an early age and in many ways deprived Saiff, son of Muammar al-Gaddafi, defends use of anti-tank ammunition against Benghazy civilians. DEATH gunshot wounds are of 4 cm wide and ammunition was manufactured by Cha-cha-ns (not Che-Che-ns) and Uzh-Chans and also provided by obscure Putin-Lukashenko sources.

In Cha-cha-k they honestly look forward to developments on the streets of Libyan major cities and will introduce the fourth and fifth shift in their ‘death for export’ producing factories. Murky tycoons from dark industrial-military & secret service complex involved in business with Gaddafy are by the hour more enthusiastic and jovial... (They share beautiful off-shore transfers with Gaddafi’s dynasty)

Big question is when will be the next time when ‘MofA on steroids’ called 'The short'-will give the usual tent hand kiss to COLONEL honoring decisively well done job in Benghazi and 'the continuation of mutually beneficial cooperation and support over Kosovo issue...’ The visit would be a wonderful opportunity to repeat crude oil business deals from the nineties. (An INCENTIVE given personally by COLONEL to the MofA father ‘on steroids’, which has notorious ‘wheeling-dealing’ reputation attained while rep of JUGOPETROL interest in London –i.e. 25% discount on Libyan crude –is splendid friendly gesture. Cash is always welcomed especially in a name of patriotism.)

Perhaps some reincarnation of ‘Mr. Reagan’ should give a valid remainder to both of them. Instead of wasting time on ‘Green Book’ analyses they should perhaps study and learn about the U.S. Constitution or the UN declaration of universal human rights.

In the meantime, it might be wise to abolish sovereignty and introduce international, per example, non-corrupt Scandinavian administration too all those miserable black hole TRASH STATES and transitional deformities on Earth, with or without many natural resources... The natural resources just as the sun rays belong to everyone on the planet not just to cleptocracy - tycoons and/or by pathology distorted dictators.

However, that might be proved as unsuccessful ‘transplant’. WHY? The fact is that all those militant and those who praise collective selfishness/nationalism and hate ‘the others’ because of their creativity and high moral standings by impulse nullify the man human rights and basic dignity. THEY cannot mature ‘overnight’. There is no a short cut in a process called emancipation and consciousness development.

After Sarkozy negotiated deal to free Bulgarian nurses and Palestinian doctor, my company (French-German-Finnish company) made deal with Lybia to sell TETRA wide country network. Suddenly Americans appear and offered them Motorola network, which they accept and cancel our deal.

Another attempt from US to extract more oil from Lybia.

GAdafi is dictator but he sent many of Lybians to study abroad and bult many housing for poor people.

I used to go to the school (West Serbia) where many Lybians used to have high school education. 100 students were comming from Lybia every school year.

The time of the dictators for life has come and gone in many parts of our world.I hope it is not longer than a generation before freedom bells ring in the rest.This particular colonel is a lunatic and guilty of a crime if just ONE unarmed man woman or child gets killed

You still use it, don't you?
(metrod, 21 February 2011 19:32)

Now answer me two questions:

1) Why the American credit card company, Capital One does not object if I use my credit card in Zvecan, in Northern Kosovo. But not even within one hour in the America's beloved Thaçistan Republic (Vushtrri) my credit card was instantly blocked - while shopping for groceries in a supermarket which belongs to a Slovenian chain. They told me, it's a place which was set as a "fraud alert" place in the Capital One's computer. Why?

2) As I was puzzled and told the cashiers about this - they answered that they don't know, why in some "shkija" place the card was fine. Why did they use the word "shkija"? They were young enough that probably they never seen a single Serb in their life. But still "Shkija".

As long as there is Shkija - there will be Šiptar, too.

BTW:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9530/siptar1.jpg

http://siptarbolt.blogspot.com/2009/08/szemezgetes-siptar-boltbol.html

So you are popular.

“Oh dear, I seem to have upset her. I actually agree that Gadaffi's Islam is largely political, but for that very reason it would be impossible for him to have European armed forces. If you can find a single picture of a Serb or any other European in a military role in Libya then I'll happily reassess my position, but you won't.”

You are elaborating a topic which was not in question. Neither said I anything about European forces nor about Serbian mercenaries over there. I am not discussing anything who did this and that in Libya because it doesn’t interest me at all. I could only feel sorry for the human lives lost during the protests gunned down by militia or whoever. Whom did you upset by the way!!! Mixing paragraphs is not a good praxis.

“Oh yes, you can dry those tears too - my Kosovo reference was in answer to Khalid-USA's ethnic hate-driven stupidity and was flippant. I really don't think that organ-snatching ex-terrorists command any sort of premium on the international security market. Better now?”

Referring to your comment, could you provide just a single picture of the executors or victims of so called organ trafficking story? You can ask Marty for help if you can not find one . OK?

I find it incedible that there are still people who support this Benny Hill character Gaddafi and his brutal regime.

Personally I'd like to see him stand trial but if he insists on fighting to the last bullet then so be it.

Can't wait for the wave of upraisings to reach Saudi Arabia.
Leonidas, 21

Leonidas, seeing the upraising reach Saudi Arabia would be a fantastic historical event with far reaching consequences....maybe comparable to the Russian Revolution in many respects.

Were Serbs this apathetic about the fall of the Berlin Wall?
(Amer, 21 February 2011 21:47)

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 21:42)

1999 - that's why. U.S. was very generous to handle one of it's best allies. It will take decades, many decades till Serbs will see the world as "western" as Russians do. After 1999 the public opinion of Russians is "western decadence" compared to Serbs. Clinton + Blair are criminals and should be hanged.

"There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

No "Khalid", I think you'll find their KosAlbs. You see none of them have a job at home but they don't mind killing people for money and, since their religion is "albanianism", they don't mind hurting fellow Moslems.

Albo troll of the week!"


The most nonsense comment I have ever read on this forum. You obsession to link everything negative to Serbia or Serbs with Albanians is simply ridiculous. Need I to remind you how Serbian criminal mercenaries have been found from Africa to drug cartels of south America. You need to explain it to Khalid and not to write rubbish as always.

(Milos Obilic, 22 February 2011 17:29)

Look Milos, following Ataman's favorite method of investigation, I googled "Serbian mercenaries" and came up with 125'000 results. Here are some of those results:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2006&mm=07&dd=18&nav_id=35689

http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/9813-serb-mercenaries-guarding-colombian-drug-cartels.html

It seems there is a long history of Serbian mercenaries around the world, so can you prove there are no Serb mercenaries in Libya? Just following the favorite line of thought of some posters here, such as the Swiss and Zoran, make some allegations, throw in some rumors, make some half-baked connections between events and ask the other party to disprove them :).

Seriously now, hope those engineers make it home safe. The fact that they belong to multinationals robbing the Libyan people of their wealth with the blessing of Geddafi is not a good reason to wish them harm, they probably have families and just do their little technical job. I would have done the same probably. and don't worry, nobody in Libya comes to this corner of the internet and takes the word of anonymous khalid to go and attack Serbs. They hardly have internet in Libya. 50 billion dollars a year from oil and gas for 6 million people and they hardly have internet. where are all the anti-colonialists, anti-otherstuff when you need them?

"Hugo has at least 30 more years of state-sponsored Bolivarianism to bless his people with.

"All the exposure to the Western press seems to be having an effect on the posters here, BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher." (Amer)

-- Don't know what you're checking, but the Serbian language version of B92 has a wide spectrum of opinion on Qaddafi. I haven't read all the commets, but there's certainly a citizen-diaspora divide. Because as we know, diaspora nationalists know far more about what their country is doing or should be doing that those who live there :)

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 21:42) "

Hugo - maybe. But the Venezuelans may take note of what's happening elsewhere, and make certain decisions that the Cubans may not be able to.

Or maybe they'll all go - Iran, No. Korea, Cuba, China, ex-USSR ... be still, my heart: it won't all be next week. Or before my funeral, most likely. Still: to have something worth reading in Arabic will be amazing.

The comment on the here vs. there responses was based on some pretty amazing comments (highly approved of, according to the +:- ratio) on Blic this morning (East Coast time). So - is it the commentators or the moderators that differ? (And what was the final decision on the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin?)

Why the support for Gaddafi? Anybody who sticks a finger in America's eye is a hero here, haven't you noticed?

There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.

"Of course If you and Kosova-USA have evidence to the contrary then please do share it with us. I'm waiting..."


I provided a link with some allegations about Serbian mercenaries which the moderator didn't publish. I am not interested whether there are such mercenaries in Libya or not, it was just a reaction of your childish comment on the topic which has not any relation to Albanians whatsoever.


"The nonsense is all yours, my friend. "Khalid" is not a Libyan, whiling away the time while his country slides into civil war by reading B92 (very likely). He is persistent troll Kosova-USA, seen making the same idiotic point here [link]. No one who knew the slightest thing about Libya, let alone lived there, would ever claim that Gaddafi had Christian, European mercenaries working for him. To do so would be to undermine in an instant the pan-Arab, pan-Africanist, anti-imperialist stance which Gadaffi has taken since coming to power in 1969."

So you suggest who mention Serbian mercenaries must be always Albanian!!!! You logic seem to be that of Marty style. I doubt very much that Khalid is the same as Kosovo-USA only because he mentioned the word mercenaries.As for Christians it is well known that Gaddafi put always his economic interests before any religious issue. That is why there are a lot of Western oil companies operating in Libya, British, Austrian, French, Italian etc. Moreover the son of Gadaffi studied in UK. According to your logic Gadaffi wouldn't allow him to gain western culture.

The Serbs, Bosnians and, in far greater numbers, Italians and British who work in Libya are almost all engineers employed in the oil and gas industry and to malign them as "mercenaries" to score pathetic ethnic points puts their lives at risk and is the most idiotic form of irresponsible behaviour.

Who has said that those engineers are considered to be mercenaries!!!!This is your invention not our i.e. Albanians or Kosovo-Usa. You can not take advantage of something said by you and heard by you. Very pathetic indeed.

As for Christians it is well known that Gaddafi put always his economic interests before any religious issue. That is why there are a lot of Western oil companies operating in Libya, British, Austrian, French, Italian etc. Moreover the son of Gadaffi studied in UK. According to your logic Gadaffi wouldn't allow him to gain western culture.
(Endri, 22 February 2011 17:00)

Oh dear, I seem to have upset her. I actually agree that Gadaffi's Islam is largely political, but for that very reason it would be impossible for him to have European armed forces. If you can find a single picture of a Serb or any other European in a military role in Libya then I'll happily reassess my position, but you won't.

Oh yes, you can dry those tears too - my Kosovo reference was in answer to Khalid-USA's ethnic hate-driven stupidity and was flippant. I really don't think that organ-snatching ex-terrorists command any sort of premium on the international security market. Better now?

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 21:42)

Strictly interest mate! They did not support Kosovo UDI, we have some military deals with them and building contracts. Interest nothing else. I just wonder where did Serbs learn that? From UK and US! Simple as that. Still wonder?

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
Mike

Yes Mike, it is a shame.

MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!
(highduke, 21 February 2011 12:55)

Come on highduke, your comments are as good as the k-trolls here. This guy is as criminal as the snake.
Two Swiss were held hostage for 1 year in Lybia in retaliation of our temporary arrest of one of his crazy son for beating nearly to death one of his employee in an hotel in Geneva !!
Like all these lunatics and dictators he has to go, there can't be any more tolerance for these kind of despots

So "towel head" is acceptable terminology now is it? Does that mean we can use "siptar" too?
(Milos Obilic, 21 February 2011)

Feel free to use it.

A source in Caracas is denying reports that Gaddafi is on his way there - http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/21/us-libya-venezuela-idUSTRE71K40R20110221. Cuba would seem to be a better choice, don't you think, from the standpoint of security?

All the exposure to the Western press seems to be having an effect on the posters here, BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher.

"So "towel head" is acceptable terminology now is it? Does that mean we can use "siptar" too?
Milos Obilic"

You still use it, don't you?

"As I remember Serbias defence and economic minister boasting so recently how much military contract are waiting to be picked by them in Libya. Like the old adage dont count your chickens before they hatch." (Lenard)

-- Should be extended to other European states too, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2czlSOhrI

From my readings, Europe is beholdin to Gaddafi.

"Libya has just overtaken Saudi Arabia as the third largest supplier of oil to Europe behind Norway and Russia. Italy imports 32 percent of Libya’s oil, Germany 14 percent and France 10 percent. Some 23 percent goes to the rest of Europe."

"For Britain and the other EU states the uprising in Libya is a disaster. The UK government has cultivated links with Gaddafi as part of their efforts to win oil contracts for British firms such as BP. Some 79 percent
of Libya’s oil goes to the EU, making Europe Libya’s biggest customer."

"The military hardware exported to Libya from Britain last year included tear gas, crowd control ammunition, surveillance equipment, small arms, sniper rifles and sights, command and control vehicles, and radio jamming equipment. Britain is also involved in training the Libyan police force, which has distinguished itself by its brutality."
Also...
"BP admitted on July 15th that it had lobbied the British government in 2007, prior to the to release of Lockerbie bomber, for an agreement to turn over a number of prisoners to Libya, as negotiations between the two countries over the issue were impeding a contract allowing BP to drill in Libyan offshore deep waters."

"Shortly after, Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, convicted for the 1988 bombing of an airline jet over Lockerbie, Scotland that killed 270 people, mostly Americans, was released in August of 2009 on compassionate grounds after a medical diagnosis that he was unlikely to survive more than three months from cancer. Nearly a year later, he’s not only still alive, but his doctor has now declared he could live another decade."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/3754804-418/lockerbie-bomber-having-a-good-laugh.html

BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher.
(Amer, 21 February 2011 19:01)
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Not sure how you came to that conclusion. After reading the comments only highduke has openly supported Gaddafi. Most other comments were in response to Agim's (aka Kosovo-USA's) racist comment.

So who has the moral high ground these days? Certainly not the West.

One by one all russian-chinese puppets in arab world are dying...I am waiting protest in russia so Puttinocchio will tumble down. Then, president of iran Ahmadinejad, finally Yang Ceng Yang (or whoever)of china will tumble down to. And when all this is over, serbia will remain

That’s because they’re essentially the same. Fair enough, there are some Serbs, and I emphasise SOME, who have observed the ways of the white man and could pass for European – you’ll find a few in Belgrade like that – but go down to Mitrovica and it’s like the Planet of the Apes, whatever side of the river you’re on.
(The Brit, 21 February 2011 20:49)

So for you people from Kosovo (Serbs and Albanians) are monkeys? Very nice comparison, but I have not heard of Ilyrian monkeys?

"B92, where are you?" (Amer)

-- The English site doesn't get updated as frequently as the main Serbian site.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2011&mm=02&dd=22&nav_category=78&nav_id=494363

I'm sure they'll have an English version tomorrow, so no need to worry about any apathy.

Referring to your comment, could you provide just a single picture of the executors or victims of so called organ trafficking story? You can ask Marty for help if you can not find one . OK?
(Endri, 22 February 2011 19:00)

Fair enough, though I respect the opinion of a respected senator from an established liberal democracy over the racist frothings of an educationally-challenged teenage internet warrior Khalid-USA, not you - you sound reasonably normal by the standards of the alb lobby. Congratulations!)

"Clinton + Blair are criminals and should be hanged.
(Ataman, 22 February 2011 01:08) "

Did you have any other suggestions at the time on how to deal with Milosevic? The General Assembly had passed resolutions for years calling on him to stop persecuting the ethnic-Albanians in Kosovo, and they had their usual effect. If Milosevic had been interested in settling the problems in Kosovo, there had been a non-violent movement willing to negotiate for a decade. After Srebrenica, the US and the UK were not about to let him have another try at his preferred option, removing the problematic population.
(Amer, 22 February 2011 20:39)

Yep, the idea was that he would go on trial and his guilt would be exposed. That didnt go down too well http://www.kosovometohija.com/apps/videos/videos/show/12274844-slobodan-milosevic-glosses-at-a-trial-part-1


So he got bumped off either directly or indirectly. I dont know how you can defend Thaci and attack Milosevic, you dont have any evidence against Milosevic at all. Ah the hippocracy

There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

Yes, I can. Yusuf al-Newyorki al-Madjari is one of them, riding his favorite car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tya70rtLhqg

"As I remember Serbias defence and economic minister boasting so recently how much military contract are waiting to be picked by them in Libya. Like the old adage dont count your chickens before they hatch." (Lenard)

-- Should be extended to a number of other European countries as well, right?

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/

Did you have any other suggestions at the time on how to deal with Milosevic?
(Amer, 22 February 2011 20:39)

Es begann mit einer Lüge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBHefedY4fw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u016f9FJ8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2KRPze0ONU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi3yL8qXMKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcyOJjMp-to

Aber ARD ist doch keine Putin-Propaganda, oder?

Igelische Grüße.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110223/jsp/frontpage/story_13623418.jsp

if this is true it will be sad day

http://balkanupdate.blogspot.com/2011/02/serb-mercenaries-fighting-on-behalf-of.html

WOW peace loving citizens

[link]

WOW peace loving citizens
(Bilbao, 23 February 2011 22:40)

You've got to question why

1. Nearly everything on that website is anti Serb

2. The writer is a croat

2. The picture is that of an Afgani Mujahideen, I've seen it before

"[link]

WOW peace loving citizens
(Bilbao, 23 February 2011 22:40) "

What kind of paper is "Alo!" ? There was a "Halo noviny" in Prague, put out by the (unreconstructed) Communist Party. If you were in the right mood, it was sometimes good for a laugh.

Does anybody know this one?

These CIA-organized mobs deliberately attacked Serbs bc we love Ghadaffi. Let it be know that Serb people & our state consider many Arab/Muslim nations as allies. We are not anti-Muslim, just against Muslim imperialism. MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!

Thus far between 600 and 700 Serbian citizens have contacted the embassy in Libya, but it is estimated that the number is higher.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.

As for the attack, it must have been KLA. Call Dick Marty to writte e report.

What happened? I thought Libyans and Serbs were great friends. Maybe Serbs and Libyan dictator were great friends, not people of Libya.

Agim, read Albanian history, you have always licked the boots of your overlord, be it the Turks, the German Nazi's, the USA, or Brussels, so please stop your BS about some non-existent Albanian high morality or pride. You guys are historic sellouts of epic proportion. As for the stranded Serbs in Libya, may they all get home safe and sound. Many workers, from many countries go abroad to follow where the jobs are, just look at all the American contractors that work in Iraq and Afghanistan.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)
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What kind of a racist comment is that? Calling Libyans/Arabs "towel heads".

Also, what do you think, Serbian's don't go to Western countries? We are accepted and respected all around the world.

Wow, talk about simple black and white minds.

As I remember Serbs build dissident prisons and military structures for the despot Qaddafi lunatic fringe of Libya. Help maintain the Ex Yugo Russian equipment so Qaddafi can make many war on its neighbours and on his own people but Serbs see nothing wrong with it. That is very much similar what Serbs did and they think its normal in Ex Yugo. I guess when despot Qaddafi gets deposed of to Belgrade Serbia here I come like all the other war criminals that find a safe heaven in Serbia. As I remember Serbias defence and economic minister boasting so recently how much military contract are waiting to be picked by them in Libya. Like the old adage dont count your chickens before they hatch.

These CIA-organized mobs deliberately attacked Serbs bc we love Ghadaffi. Let it be know that Serb people & our state consider many Arab/Muslim nations as allies. We are not anti-Muslim, just against Muslim imperialism. MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!
(highduke, 21 February 2011 12:55)


If I am not mistaken I think it was you or Zoran that spoke little to soon about Mubarak hanging on to power. The next day he was gone.You can have all the towel heads of this planet, I would rather stick with civilized world.

Agim,
Your usage of derogatory terms for Arab peoples - it shows alot about your weak intelligence and lack of tolerance towards others.

" Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!"
highduke

This is a good one. It tells all about you. Already yesterday under under the article Libyan protests leave 200 dead" I asked where are the Serbian commentators. Sure enough I was promptly censured.

"wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads."
Agim Kelmendi

Serbs in these countries go there to work, just like many westeners. On the other hand, albanians that come to western countries come here to take advantage of the wellfare system.

@ Agim
Many Serbs go to these Arab countries as engineers, architects and other professional jobs working with Serbian as well as foreign companies. They are well paid and well respected as professionals.
Not everything is as you wish to see it. Other countries form the Balkans also have their citizens working there as professionals.

Ridiculous pointless lies, from an American. You speak for no Serb because you are not even one yourself.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)

So "towel head" is acceptable terminology now is it? Does that mean we can use "siptar" too?

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)

Wow-this coming from cone heads who are happy to be pizza delivery boys in NY and play cowboys on internet..stick to what you know the best-protecting organ harvester..aka uncle..

highduke,

I'm a bit puzzled! You keep on glorifying Gaddafi but spit on Thaci.

Such a different attitude towards these two righteous, great and progressive leaders of their peoples!

What happened? I thought Libyans and Serbs were great friends. Maybe Serbs and Libyan dictator were great friends, not people of Libya.
(ivan, 21 February 2011 17:18)

As you by any chance competing with Agim for the most stupid comment, go on, you are very close to your goal....
As to the hatry, you still have to catch Lenard, he is far ahead...
Poor guys !

So Kelmendi displays his true colours at last. The Arab world by and large doesn't support Kosmet seperatism because they see it for what it is ie. US engineered fraud. Thus they're a bunch of 'ragheads.' Kelmendi's view of the world is; if they support us we'll go and spend our vacation there. If they're opposed, well then they're trash. If this is what shapes your world view, I pity you. You and your cronies are driven by only one thing; how many countries can we hoodwink into recognising our miserable independence. Never mind the corruption, the stagnation, the unemployment, the criminals and gangsters running your entity. As long as you can linger over an espresso for hours on end and watch the world trundle by in downtown Pristina then everything's okay. There's more to life then scoring cheap points pal. Those guys down in Libya were probably working on some engineering project. Education and work. Much more productive than racist bigotry. You should try it some time. Make you feel better.

There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.

"There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

No "Khalid", I think you'll find their KosAlbs. You see none of them have a job at home but they don't mind killing people for money and, since their religion is "albanianism", they don't mind hurting fellow Moslems.

Albo troll of the week!"


The most nonsense comment I have ever read on this forum. You obsession to link everything negative to Serbia or Serbs with Albanians is simply ridiculous. Need I to remind you how Serbian criminal mercenaries have been found from Africa to drug cartels of south America. You need to explain it to Khalid and not to write rubbish as always.

Leave it up to a B92 thread to take the possibility of civil war in Libya and move it into whether Serbs or Albanians suck more.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 17:37)

That’s because they’re essentially the same. Fair enough, there are some Serbs, and I emphasise SOME, who have observed the ways of the white man and could pass for European – you’ll find a few in Belgrade like that – but go down to Mitrovica and it’s like the Planet of the Apes, whatever side of the river you’re on.

"At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads." (Agim Kelmendi)

-- I suppose that support for Kosovo from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Jordan and the UAE is meaningless then?

As for Christians it is well known that Gaddafi put always his economic interests before any religious issue. That is why there are a lot of Western oil companies operating in Libya, British, Austrian, French, Italian etc. Moreover the son of Gadaffi studied in UK. According to your logic Gadaffi wouldn't allow him to gain western culture.
(Endri, 22 February 2011 17:00)

Oh dear, I seem to have upset her. I actually agree that Gadaffi's Islam is largely political, but for that very reason it would be impossible for him to have European armed forces. If you can find a single picture of a Serb or any other European in a military role in Libya then I'll happily reassess my position, but you won't.

Oh yes, you can dry those tears too - my Kosovo reference was in answer to Khalid-USA's ethnic hate-driven stupidity and was flippant. I really don't think that organ-snatching ex-terrorists command any sort of premium on the international security market. Better now?

There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

No "Khalid", I think you'll find their KosAlbs. You see none of them have a job at home but they don't mind killing people for money and, since their religion is "albanianism", they don't mind hurting fellow Moslems.

Albo troll of the week!

Referring to your comment, could you provide just a single picture of the executors or victims of so called organ trafficking story? You can ask Marty for help if you can not find one . OK?
(Endri, 22 February 2011 19:00)

Fair enough, though I respect the opinion of a respected senator from an established liberal democracy over the racist frothings of an educationally-challenged teenage internet warrior Khalid-USA, not you - you sound reasonably normal by the standards of the alb lobby. Congratulations!)

The British papers are saying that family of the embassy staff and BP workers are being flown out, so it doesn't sound as though it should be that difficult to evacuate the Serbs working there. It's up to the Russian companies they're working for, though, isn't it?

From the number of times young Sword-of-Islam mentioned foreign investors in his speech last night it sounds like he and his father are more worried about the commercial damage that may be done to the country than the diplomatic consequences.

Were Serbs this apathetic about the fall of the Berlin Wall?
(Amer, 21 February 2011 21:47)

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 21:42)

1999 - that's why. U.S. was very generous to handle one of it's best allies. It will take decades, many decades till Serbs will see the world as "western" as Russians do. After 1999 the public opinion of Russians is "western decadence" compared to Serbs. Clinton + Blair are criminals and should be hanged.

"There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this."
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

Who knows Khalid. The experience in combat during 4 years of wars in the Balkans is a skill that can be used to make money in situations like these. Strong ties between Serbia and Gheddafi can help a lot too. It is common knowledge that to get a job you need networking and friends. And Serbia certainly has done a lot of networking. Which brings to the questions: maybe these people the article talks about are being attacked as a revenge? Maybe not all of them are workers? but these are just guesses.

I would not be surprised to find other mercenaries too. In these difficult moments, Gheddafi can only count on the loyalty that he can buy. And that of a few close people.

Wikileaks was mentioning an arms traffic between Serbian mafia and Yemen and Sirya too some time ago. Value of 75 million dollars. Via Albanian ports. Americans were worried because countries who should not get arms were getting arms via Serbia. Which again shows that Serbia certainly has a lot of connections in the Middle East, so I would not be surprised if there were Serb mercenaries with Gheddafi. Legacy of the non-aligned movement after all. Whoever thought it was about peace in the world was wrong.

Leave it up to a B92 thread to take the possibility of civil war in Libya and move it into whether Serbs or Albanians suck more.

- You suck.
- Yeah you're right, they suck
- No, YOU suck more.
- Oh yeah? Well your Mom.

One by one all russian-chinese puppets in arab world are dying...I am waiting protest in russia so Puttinocchio will tumble down. Then, president of iran Ahmadinejad, finally Yang Ceng Yang (or whoever)of china will tumble down to. And when all this is over, serbia will remain

"So "towel head" is acceptable terminology now is it? Does that mean we can use "siptar" too?
Milos Obilic"

You still use it, don't you?

"Of course If you and Kosova-USA have evidence to the contrary then please do share it with us. I'm waiting..."


I provided a link with some allegations about Serbian mercenaries which the moderator didn't publish. I am not interested whether there are such mercenaries in Libya or not, it was just a reaction of your childish comment on the topic which has not any relation to Albanians whatsoever.


"The nonsense is all yours, my friend. "Khalid" is not a Libyan, whiling away the time while his country slides into civil war by reading B92 (very likely). He is persistent troll Kosova-USA, seen making the same idiotic point here [link]. No one who knew the slightest thing about Libya, let alone lived there, would ever claim that Gaddafi had Christian, European mercenaries working for him. To do so would be to undermine in an instant the pan-Arab, pan-Africanist, anti-imperialist stance which Gadaffi has taken since coming to power in 1969."

So you suggest who mention Serbian mercenaries must be always Albanian!!!! You logic seem to be that of Marty style. I doubt very much that Khalid is the same as Kosovo-USA only because he mentioned the word mercenaries.As for Christians it is well known that Gaddafi put always his economic interests before any religious issue. That is why there are a lot of Western oil companies operating in Libya, British, Austrian, French, Italian etc. Moreover the son of Gadaffi studied in UK. According to your logic Gadaffi wouldn't allow him to gain western culture.

The Serbs, Bosnians and, in far greater numbers, Italians and British who work in Libya are almost all engineers employed in the oil and gas industry and to malign them as "mercenaries" to score pathetic ethnic points puts their lives at risk and is the most idiotic form of irresponsible behaviour.

Who has said that those engineers are considered to be mercenaries!!!!This is your invention not our i.e. Albanians or Kosovo-Usa. You can not take advantage of something said by you and heard by you. Very pathetic indeed.

“Oh dear, I seem to have upset her. I actually agree that Gadaffi's Islam is largely political, but for that very reason it would be impossible for him to have European armed forces. If you can find a single picture of a Serb or any other European in a military role in Libya then I'll happily reassess my position, but you won't.”

You are elaborating a topic which was not in question. Neither said I anything about European forces nor about Serbian mercenaries over there. I am not discussing anything who did this and that in Libya because it doesn’t interest me at all. I could only feel sorry for the human lives lost during the protests gunned down by militia or whoever. Whom did you upset by the way!!! Mixing paragraphs is not a good praxis.

“Oh yes, you can dry those tears too - my Kosovo reference was in answer to Khalid-USA's ethnic hate-driven stupidity and was flippant. I really don't think that organ-snatching ex-terrorists command any sort of premium on the international security market. Better now?”

Referring to your comment, could you provide just a single picture of the executors or victims of so called organ trafficking story? You can ask Marty for help if you can not find one . OK?

Gaddafi says, “In my country, the people rule through the work of the revolutionary councils." The sadistic-minded from an early age and in many ways deprived Saiff, son of Muammar al-Gaddafi, defends use of anti-tank ammunition against Benghazy civilians. DEATH gunshot wounds are of 4 cm wide and ammunition was manufactured by Cha-cha-ns (not Che-Che-ns) and Uzh-Chans and also provided by obscure Putin-Lukashenko sources.

In Cha-cha-k they honestly look forward to developments on the streets of Libyan major cities and will introduce the fourth and fifth shift in their ‘death for export’ producing factories. Murky tycoons from dark industrial-military & secret service complex involved in business with Gaddafy are by the hour more enthusiastic and jovial... (They share beautiful off-shore transfers with Gaddafi’s dynasty)

Big question is when will be the next time when ‘MofA on steroids’ called 'The short'-will give the usual tent hand kiss to COLONEL honoring decisively well done job in Benghazi and 'the continuation of mutually beneficial cooperation and support over Kosovo issue...’ The visit would be a wonderful opportunity to repeat crude oil business deals from the nineties. (An INCENTIVE given personally by COLONEL to the MofA father ‘on steroids’, which has notorious ‘wheeling-dealing’ reputation attained while rep of JUGOPETROL interest in London –i.e. 25% discount on Libyan crude –is splendid friendly gesture. Cash is always welcomed especially in a name of patriotism.)

Perhaps some reincarnation of ‘Mr. Reagan’ should give a valid remainder to both of them. Instead of wasting time on ‘Green Book’ analyses they should perhaps study and learn about the U.S. Constitution or the UN declaration of universal human rights.

In the meantime, it might be wise to abolish sovereignty and introduce international, per example, non-corrupt Scandinavian administration too all those miserable black hole TRASH STATES and transitional deformities on Earth, with or without many natural resources... The natural resources just as the sun rays belong to everyone on the planet not just to cleptocracy - tycoons and/or by pathology distorted dictators.

However, that might be proved as unsuccessful ‘transplant’. WHY? The fact is that all those militant and those who praise collective selfishness/nationalism and hate ‘the others’ because of their creativity and high moral standings by impulse nullify the man human rights and basic dignity. THEY cannot mature ‘overnight’. There is no a short cut in a process called emancipation and consciousness development.

B92, where are you? Aircraft are strafing people and cars in Tripoli, the UN delegation - not to mention various ambassadors in other countries - has denounced the government for attacking its own people, two Libyan jets have landed in Malta after refusing orders to fire on their countrymen ...

Were Serbs this apathetic about the fall of the Berlin Wall?

BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher.
(Amer, 21 February 2011 19:01)
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Not sure how you came to that conclusion. After reading the comments only highduke has openly supported Gaddafi. Most other comments were in response to Agim's (aka Kosovo-USA's) racist comment.

So who has the moral high ground these days? Certainly not the West.

I find it incedible that there are still people who support this Benny Hill character Gaddafi and his brutal regime.

Personally I'd like to see him stand trial but if he insists on fighting to the last bullet then so be it.

Can't wait for the wave of upraisings to reach Saudi Arabia.
Leonidas, 21

Leonidas, seeing the upraising reach Saudi Arabia would be a fantastic historical event with far reaching consequences....maybe comparable to the Russian Revolution in many respects.

"Hugo has at least 30 more years of state-sponsored Bolivarianism to bless his people with.

"All the exposure to the Western press seems to be having an effect on the posters here, BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher." (Amer)

-- Don't know what you're checking, but the Serbian language version of B92 has a wide spectrum of opinion on Qaddafi. I haven't read all the commets, but there's certainly a citizen-diaspora divide. Because as we know, diaspora nationalists know far more about what their country is doing or should be doing that those who live there :)

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 21:42) "

Hugo - maybe. But the Venezuelans may take note of what's happening elsewhere, and make certain decisions that the Cubans may not be able to.

Or maybe they'll all go - Iran, No. Korea, Cuba, China, ex-USSR ... be still, my heart: it won't all be next week. Or before my funeral, most likely. Still: to have something worth reading in Arabic will be amazing.

The comment on the here vs. there responses was based on some pretty amazing comments (highly approved of, according to the +:- ratio) on Blic this morning (East Coast time). So - is it the commentators or the moderators that differ? (And what was the final decision on the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin?)

Why the support for Gaddafi? Anybody who sticks a finger in America's eye is a hero here, haven't you noticed?

The most nonsense comment I have ever read on this forum. You obsession to link everything negative to Serbia or Serbs with Albanians is simply ridiculous. Need I to remind you how Serbian criminal mercenaries have been found from Africa to drug cartels of south America. You need to explain it to Khalid and not to write rubbish as always.
(Endri, 22 February 2011 14:29)

The nonsense is all yours, my friend. "Khalid" is not a Libyan, whiling away the time while his country slides into civil war by reading B92 (very likely). He is persistent troll Kosova-USA, seen making the same idiotic point here http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=72852. No one who knew the slightest thing about Libya, let alone lived there, would ever claim that Gaddafi had Christian, European mercenaries working for him. To do so would be to undermine in an instant the pan-Arab, pan-Africanist, anti-imperialist stance which Gadaffi has taken since coming to power in 1969.

The Serbs, Bosnians and, in far greater numbers, Italians and British who work in Libya are almost all engineers employed in the oil and gas industry and to malign them as "mercenaries" to score pathetic ethnic points puts their lives at risk and is the most idiotic form of irresponsible behaviour.

Of course If you and Kosova-USA have evidence to the contrary then please do share it with us. I'm waiting...

There are reports in my city Tripoli that there are paid mercenaries from Serbia. Can anyone confirm this.
(Khalid, 22 February 2011 08:18)

Yes, I can. Yusuf al-Newyorki al-Madjari is one of them, riding his favorite car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tya70rtLhqg

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
(Mike, 21 February 2011 21:42)

Strictly interest mate! They did not support Kosovo UDI, we have some military deals with them and building contracts. Interest nothing else. I just wonder where did Serbs learn that? From UK and US! Simple as that. Still wonder?

That’s because they’re essentially the same. Fair enough, there are some Serbs, and I emphasise SOME, who have observed the ways of the white man and could pass for European – you’ll find a few in Belgrade like that – but go down to Mitrovica and it’s like the Planet of the Apes, whatever side of the river you’re on.
(The Brit, 21 February 2011 20:49)

So for you people from Kosovo (Serbs and Albanians) are monkeys? Very nice comparison, but I have not heard of Ilyrian monkeys?

You still use it, don't you?
(metrod, 21 February 2011 19:32)

Now answer me two questions:

1) Why the American credit card company, Capital One does not object if I use my credit card in Zvecan, in Northern Kosovo. But not even within one hour in the America's beloved Thaçistan Republic (Vushtrri) my credit card was instantly blocked - while shopping for groceries in a supermarket which belongs to a Slovenian chain. They told me, it's a place which was set as a "fraud alert" place in the Capital One's computer. Why?

2) As I was puzzled and told the cashiers about this - they answered that they don't know, why in some "shkija" place the card was fine. Why did they use the word "shkija"? They were young enough that probably they never seen a single Serb in their life. But still "Shkija".

As long as there is Shkija - there will be Šiptar, too.

BTW:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9530/siptar1.jpg

http://siptarbolt.blogspot.com/2009/08/szemezgetes-siptar-boltbol.html

So you are popular.

Did you have any other suggestions at the time on how to deal with Milosevic?
(Amer, 22 February 2011 20:39)

Es begann mit einer Lüge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBHefedY4fw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u016f9FJ8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2KRPze0ONU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi3yL8qXMKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcyOJjMp-to

Aber ARD ist doch keine Putin-Propaganda, oder?

Igelische Grüße.

I find it incedible that there are still people who support this Benny Hill character Gaddafi and his brutal regime.

Personally I'd like to see him stand trial but if he insists on fighting to the last bullet then so be it.

Can't wait for the wave of upraisings to reach Saudi Arabia.

These CIA-organized mobs deliberately attacked Serbs bc we love Ghadaffi. Let it be know that Serb people & our state consider many Arab/Muslim nations as allies. We are not anti-Muslim, just against Muslim imperialism. MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!
(highduke, 21 February 2011 12:55)

Yes, right , ok. The CIA did all this just to attck Serbians working in Libya.

And just who appointed you to talk on behlaf of ANYONE let alone on behalf of all Serbs.

B92 - please be aware. You censor pionts that are based on logic and empirical history yet you allow the comical fantasies written by self appionted bigots. Your standards are slipping. Im no longer sure if you are a news portal or the comedy chanel.

wow, why all these Serb in Arab countries? At least albanians go to western countries and not to some dictatorship/desert countries full of towel heads.
(Agim Kelmendi, 21 February 2011 13:08)

This what you do in western counties in Lybia is punishable by death. No wonder why you dont go to Lybia.

MANY Serbs helped build Lybia. Hold on brother Ghadaffi, Serbdom is with you!
(highduke, 21 February 2011 12:55)

Come on highduke, your comments are as good as the k-trolls here. This guy is as criminal as the snake.
Two Swiss were held hostage for 1 year in Lybia in retaliation of our temporary arrest of one of his crazy son for beating nearly to death one of his employee in an hotel in Geneva !!
Like all these lunatics and dictators he has to go, there can't be any more tolerance for these kind of despots

After Sarkozy negotiated deal to free Bulgarian nurses and Palestinian doctor, my company (French-German-Finnish company) made deal with Lybia to sell TETRA wide country network. Suddenly Americans appear and offered them Motorola network, which they accept and cancel our deal.

Another attempt from US to extract more oil from Lybia.

GAdafi is dictator but he sent many of Lybians to study abroad and bult many housing for poor people.

I used to go to the school (West Serbia) where many Lybians used to have high school education. 100 students were comming from Lybia every school year.

From my readings, Europe is beholdin to Gaddafi.

"Libya has just overtaken Saudi Arabia as the third largest supplier of oil to Europe behind Norway and Russia. Italy imports 32 percent of Libya’s oil, Germany 14 percent and France 10 percent. Some 23 percent goes to the rest of Europe."

"For Britain and the other EU states the uprising in Libya is a disaster. The UK government has cultivated links with Gaddafi as part of their efforts to win oil contracts for British firms such as BP. Some 79 percent
of Libya’s oil goes to the EU, making Europe Libya’s biggest customer."

"The military hardware exported to Libya from Britain last year included tear gas, crowd control ammunition, surveillance equipment, small arms, sniper rifles and sights, command and control vehicles, and radio jamming equipment. Britain is also involved in training the Libyan police force, which has distinguished itself by its brutality."
Also...
"BP admitted on July 15th that it had lobbied the British government in 2007, prior to the to release of Lockerbie bomber, for an agreement to turn over a number of prisoners to Libya, as negotiations between the two countries over the issue were impeding a contract allowing BP to drill in Libyan offshore deep waters."

"Shortly after, Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, convicted for the 1988 bombing of an airline jet over Lockerbie, Scotland that killed 270 people, mostly Americans, was released in August of 2009 on compassionate grounds after a medical diagnosis that he was unlikely to survive more than three months from cancer. Nearly a year later, he’s not only still alive, but his doctor has now declared he could live another decade."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/3754804-418/lockerbie-bomber-having-a-good-laugh.html

"Clinton + Blair are criminals and should be hanged.
(Ataman, 22 February 2011 01:08) "

Did you have any other suggestions at the time on how to deal with Milosevic? The General Assembly had passed resolutions for years calling on him to stop persecuting the ethnic-Albanians in Kosovo, and they had their usual effect. If Milosevic had been interested in settling the problems in Kosovo, there had been a non-violent movement willing to negotiate for a decade. After Srebrenica, the US and the UK were not about to let him have another try at his preferred option, removing the problematic population.

"Clinton + Blair are criminals and should be hanged.
(Ataman, 22 February 2011 01:08) "

Did you have any other suggestions at the time on how to deal with Milosevic? The General Assembly had passed resolutions for years calling on him to stop persecuting the ethnic-Albanians in Kosovo, and they had their usual effect. If Milosevic had been interested in settling the problems in Kosovo, there had been a non-violent movement willing to negotiate for a decade. After Srebrenica, the US and the UK were not about to let him have another try at his preferred option, removing the problematic population.
(Amer, 22 February 2011 20:39)

Yep, the idea was that he would go on trial and his guilt would be exposed. That didnt go down too well http://www.kosovometohija.com/apps/videos/videos/show/12274844-slobodan-milosevic-glosses-at-a-trial-part-1


So he got bumped off either directly or indirectly. I dont know how you can defend Thaci and attack Milosevic, you dont have any evidence against Milosevic at all. Ah the hippocracy

A source in Caracas is denying reports that Gaddafi is on his way there - http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/21/us-libya-venezuela-idUSTRE71K40R20110221. Cuba would seem to be a better choice, don't you think, from the standpoint of security?

All the exposure to the Western press seems to be having an effect on the posters here, BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher.

"As I remember Serbias defence and economic minister boasting so recently how much military contract are waiting to be picked by them in Libya. Like the old adage dont count your chickens before they hatch." (Lenard)

-- Should be extended to a number of other European countries as well, right?

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/

"As I remember Serbias defence and economic minister boasting so recently how much military contract are waiting to be picked by them in Libya. Like the old adage dont count your chickens before they hatch." (Lenard)

-- Should be extended to other European states too, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2czlSOhrI

"A source in Caracas is denying reports that Gaddafi is on his way there - [link]. Cuba would seem to be a better choice, don't you think, from the standpoint of security?" (Amer)

-- I heard about that too. Don't know if this is one of those "state visits" a la Ceausescu going to Iran while Timisoara was rebelling, or whether he's planning ahead for a safe haven. If it's the latter, it makes more sense than Cuba. As much as he raises doubts about it time and again, I'm convinced that Castro will at one point die. Hugo has at least 30 more years of state-sponsored Bolivarianism to bless his people with.

"All the exposure to the Western press seems to be having an effect on the posters here, BTW - at Serb-only sites, support for Gaddafi is running much higher." (Amer)

-- Don't know what you're checking, but the Serbian language version of B92 has a wide spectrum of opinion on Qaddafi. I haven't read all the commets, but there's certainly a citizen-diaspora divide. Because as we know, diaspora nationalists know far more about what their country is doing or should be doing that those who live there :)

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.

The time of the dictators for life has come and gone in many parts of our world.I hope it is not longer than a generation before freedom bells ring in the rest.This particular colonel is a lunatic and guilty of a crime if just ONE unarmed man woman or child gets killed

Still, it's a shame some on the Serb side feel it necessary to support this guy. I have no idea why.
Mike

Yes Mike, it is a shame.

"B92, where are you?" (Amer)

-- The English site doesn't get updated as frequently as the main Serbian site.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2011&mm=02&dd=22&nav_category=78&nav_id=494363

I'm sure they'll have an English version tomorrow, so no need to worry about any apathy.

(Milos Obilic, 22 February 2011 17:29)

Look Milos, following Ataman's favorite method of investigation, I googled "Serbian mercenaries" and came up with 125'000 results. Here are some of those results:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2006&mm=07&dd=18&nav_id=35689

http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/9813-serb-mercenaries-guarding-colombian-drug-cartels.html

It seems there is a long history of Serbian mercenaries around the world, so can you prove there are no Serb mercenaries in Libya? Just following the favorite line of thought of some posters here, such as the Swiss and Zoran, make some allegations, throw in some rumors, make some half-baked connections between events and ask the other party to disprove them :).

Seriously now, hope those engineers make it home safe. The fact that they belong to multinationals robbing the Libyan people of their wealth with the blessing of Geddafi is not a good reason to wish them harm, they probably have families and just do their little technical job. I would have done the same probably. and don't worry, nobody in Libya comes to this corner of the internet and takes the word of anonymous khalid to go and attack Serbs. They hardly have internet in Libya. 50 billion dollars a year from oil and gas for 6 million people and they hardly have internet. where are all the anti-colonialists, anti-otherstuff when you need them?

So "towel head" is acceptable terminology now is it? Does that mean we can use "siptar" too?
(Milos Obilic, 21 February 2011)

Feel free to use it.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110223/jsp/frontpage/story_13623418.jsp

if this is true it will be sad day

http://balkanupdate.blogspot.com/2011/02/serb-mercenaries-fighting-on-behalf-of.html

WOW peace loving citizens

"[link]

WOW peace loving citizens
(Bilbao, 23 February 2011 22:40) "

What kind of paper is "Alo!" ? There was a "Halo noviny" in Prague, put out by the (unreconstructed) Communist Party. If you were in the right mood, it was sometimes good for a laugh.

Does anybody know this one?

[link]

WOW peace loving citizens
(Bilbao, 23 February 2011 22:40)

You've got to question why

1. Nearly everything on that website is anti Serb

2. The writer is a croat

2. The picture is that of an Afgani Mujahideen, I've seen it before