FM: Serbia committed to Kosovo compromise

The Serbian FM is having an impact on changing the minds in Washington. Although the change is minimal each time it is obvious.
I can say for certain that the US Government does in fact regret supporting Kosovo and its UDI but, the US Governent will never admit to it publically.
As long as the Serbian Government consistently fights for Kosovo in the world community as it has been. They will be successful in forcing Pristina to the negotiating table where I see the US Government choosing not to intervene on behalf of the Kosovo Government.
What Serbia does with this opportunity is the real question.

no, Amer, ...we won´t give up.

that´s why you will fail.

time will come that you will realize that.

but, if you were smart, you would know it by now.
look into history, Serbs have never given up, they have always fought foreign occupiers, and they lost a battle, but in the end they won the war.

and that will be the same with the current occupation.

and one thing is quite clear, ....NATO will not stay for 500 years like the Ottomans did.

this time it will be over much quicker.

and before you start complaining about being threatened by "the Serbs", this is no threat, but a certainty.

That compromise it was 1999 with NATO its to late Mr Jeremic
(ilir, 18 February 2011 16:14)

The compromise stated that Kosovo would remain a part of Serbia, but would come under UN administration, and thats how it still is

That compromise it was 1999 with NATO its to late Mr Jeremic

Yes, too little too late. Few care what you have to say about Kosovo, Vuk. There was a time Serbia could have had leverage on this issue, but squandered it. Unfortunately, this is a very constant story.

Early elections please.

"Unemployment exceeds 50 percent, corruption is out of control, the financial sector is facing a breakdown, and human rights are being constantly violated, especially against non-Albanians," Jermic said, adding that Kosovo's international status is also uncertain.


You can tell lias to someone in Belgrade or Kraljevo, but not in USA. Kosova is much better since Independence than before.

"Unemployment exceeds 50 percent, corruption is out of control, the financial sector is facing a breakdown, and human rights are being constantly violated, especially against non-Albanians," Jermic said, adding that Kosovo's international status is also uncertain.


Wrong time and wrong place to say such stuff, knowing that United States was among the very first ones to regonize Kosova, besides they're in there 24/7 and trust me Vuk they know about the situation on the ground way better than you.
Mr.Vuk don't worry too much about citizens of Kosova, worry about your Serbia instead. Pheeeewwwww!!!

As I see this, Serbia is much better off without Kosovo. At the same time I do understand reasons that make it hard for two thirds of Serbs to digest Kosovo's departure.

You are right Olli, Serbia is certainly much better off without, and at the end this place became such a hot potatoe that not many wants to carry it.
As long as the place is run by criminals there is no future nowhere but it seems that the k-trolls around here have a hard time to get it !

UFF Vuce ! I'm sick and tired always same music man , my ears going to fall out ,please change the tune because all west got bored with you ?

this serb called foreign minister of serbia is a clown and schould be ignored. he has no power and no one expect serbs cares what he has to say. this clown and most of serbs cant accept that albanians won and serbs lost.

The independence of Kosovo was the best compromised offered by albanians to Serbia. Serbia should accept it or plan B will be to re-unite Kosovo with Albania.

Kosovo and Serbia inside the same borders is not and will not be an option now or never. It is somthing imposible because the independence of Kosovo will not be the topic of any talks. If Serbia tryes to make it a topic, the smallest thing albanians can do is to leave the dialoug with Serbia.

Reamember that Serbia need's the dialoug more than Kosovo does. Serbia needs to have good relations with Kosovo to become an member of EU. The only way Serbia can reach that is by recognizing Kosovo.


Don't belive Vuk Jeremic because he has not succeded with somthing since he became an FM of Serbia. Kosovo has won all battles !!

You have to offer something that Albanians dont have. Very unfortunate but you are bringing nothing new to the table. Every Albanian knows that they are much better now then when they were under the Serbian rule. I see these new round of talks as away to fix the short term issues and daily problems but not adressing the big questions. Albanians will never agree to give up their hard fought independence and Serbia would not agree to recognize it so lets do what EU diplomats are saying, lets discuss the practical issues that affect the daily lives of the citizens. Simple things like recognzing each others license plates, using each others air space, recognzing each others documents, not killing each other over nothing.

My god why do you need EU diplomats to tell you this you bunch of idiots. You should sit down on your own and discuss how to make things better for your people. It is for your own benefit.

"To sum it up, Kosovo has found itself stuck in legal, political and economic chaos, which is the result of its attempt to secede unilaterally from Serbia," he added.

Really Mr.Jeremic?You care so much about the lives of Albanians in Kosovo? So we were living in paradise while Serbia ruled Kosovo? Why dont you Serbs organize a referendum in kosovo and ask:Do you people want to live in chaos or do you want to join Serbia?It is very simple and you will have the answer.You are not going to like it but it is the truth.We will choose chaos over being ruled by Serbia.Your serbian brothers in montenegro didn't want to live with you so don't be naive and expect Albanians to act diferently.And by the way B92 should have written about the exchange between Jeremic and the Albanian students there also.

Mark-I was in Pristina many times before the war. It was great, lots of construction, people going about their business, safe streets etc. What is it like now. (That's a rhetorical question btw)

As I see this, Serbia is much better off without Kosovo. At the same time I do understand reasons that make it hard for two thirds of Serbs to digest Kosovo's departure. Without going now to lengthy polemics against or for Kosovo's departure I ask Serbs to consider changing their point of observation in this matter. Not bindingly, but just for now, in order two answer a question: can you see anything positive in the separation of Kosovo from Serbia proper?

To Agim I want to say that it is quite questionable to pronounce "Kosova is much better since Independence than before". I don't know which period of time you compare the present time with. Any period before 2008? And is the independence the decisive factor for things to be better?

As I said I belong to a clan that sees Kosovo's separation a healthy incidence, a healing process to Serbia. But I also see that Serbia has no obligations to pave way for Kosovo. Kosovo has taken this burden on itself. And Kosovo has no position to cry if Serbia occasionally hinders Kosovo's attempts for progress. This is what is done to Serbia, too, by many strong countries - and supported by Kosovars.

To Charli I only can say that it is very pretentious to say that "there was a time Serbia could have had leverage on this issue [on Kosovo's position]". Time after time I have witnessed Albanian view that their fight against belonging to Serbia (and to Yugoslavia) lasted at least 90 years, if not longer. One fact arises above others: there never was a serious attempt to build something together, for various reasons. And if some fact should be taken as a starting point for any negotiations or co-operation it is this fact. You either continue on this path or step away from it.

sigh,

serbia will NEVER be able to negotiate a theft, where force and violence have already failed.

Today the govt. of the republic of serbia, HAS nothing. Will Lose Nothing. It has Nothing to offer. It has Nothing with wich to compromise with.

enjoy.

"The independence of Kosovo was the best compromised offered by albanians to Serbia. Serbia should accept it or plan B will be to re-unite Kosovo with Albania. "

If this was the best that you Albanians could do, no wonder Belgrade resolutely rejected it! As for attempting your Plan B, I think the result instead would be the current de factor partition of Kosovo at the Ibar becoming de jure.

"Kosovo and Serbia inside the same borders is not and will not be an option now or never. It is somthing imposible because the independence of Kosovo will not be the topic of any talks. If Serbia tryes to make it a topic, the smallest thing albanians can do is to leave the dialoug with Serbia. "

Actually I don't think the talks would be successful.


"Reamember that Serbia need's the dialoug more than Kosovo does. Serbia needs to have good relations with Kosovo to become an member of EU. The only way Serbia can reach that is by recognizing Kosovo. "

I think Pristina needs the talk more than Belgrade, Because I think Pristina wants UN membership more than Serbians are crazy about EU membership.


"Don't belive Vuk Jeremic because he has not succeded with somthing since he became an FM of Serbia. Kosovo has won all battles !!
(demi, 18 February 2011 20:18)"

Kosovo didn't win. The major powers of the West bullied Serbia and that's why you got what you wanted. And what they got after that is having to keep financing you guys, perhaps indefinitely. Serve them right!

"I can say for certain that the US Government does in fact regret supporting Kosovo and its UDI ...

(D, 18 February 2011 19:13) "

And I say for certain that the US Government does not regret it. So what? Neither statement means a thing.

But the Albanians have throughout history been willing to side up with anyone who talked about helping them break away from the Serbs, so attempting to force them back under Serbian control would lead only to continued instability in the region. So things are rough now? Post-conflict situations are always rough, and in a case where a large neighbor is dedicated to the new country's failing, they're bound to be even worse. Better to stick with the current arrangement and work to make it better than to give up and half to fight the same battle again in the future. We don't want to have future generations complaining about getting things wrong the way the current one does about the provisions the Great Powers made a hundred years ago.

I can say for certain that the US Government does in fact regret supporting Kosovo and its UDI but, the US Governent will never admit to it publically.
As long as the Serbian Government consistently fights for Kosovo in the world community as it has been. They will be successful in forcing Pristina to the negotiating table where I see the US Government choosing not to intervene on behalf of the Kosovo Government.
What Serbia does with this opportunity is the real question.
(D, 18 February 2011 19:13)
Sounds like you have been attending the same high level meetings as sj. Maybe you sit together in these imaginary conferences. He is able to tell definitively what tie Obama is going to wear on a particular day before he even gets dressed. Of course his prediction rate is about 99.98% wrong but hey nobody is perfect.
You can say anything with certainty however on this point you are way out in left field. I do love the disclaimer though I know....but they will never admit it.

You have to offer something that Albanians dont have. Very unfortunate but you are bringing nothing new to the table. Every Albanian knows that they are much better now then when they were under the Serbian rule. I see these new round of talks as away to fix the short term issues and daily problems but not adressing the big questions. Albanians will never agree to give up their hard fought independence and Serbia would not agree to recognize it so lets do what EU diplomats are saying, lets discuss the practical issues that affect the daily lives of the citizens. Simple things like recognzing each others license plates, using each others air space, recognzing each others documents, not killing each other over nothing.

My god why do you need EU diplomats to tell you this you bunch of idiots. You should sit down on your own and discuss how to make things better for your people. It is for your own benefit.
(John, 18 February 2011 19:47)

Sorry, but that name is taken

(pss, 19 February 2011 14:24)

Ask the Croats how they now feel with Purda being extradited to Belgrade. Would you have seen that happening 5 years ago let alone 10? I only have to look at the balance sheets – no more money left; you understandy now?
Here is what the Albanians have to bargain with – ZERO. Oh, I do apologize there are 2 million mouths to feed and an unemployment rate of 80%. Good bargaining point.
But if you see my “predictions” as wrong here is you opportunity to tell me where I have messed up…… Feel free. How many factories opened up in Kosovo in the last 6 months?????

"Jeremić said that in order to achieve sustainable and just peace, all sides involved in the matter have to give up on their "maximalistic" demands."

What exactly does Jeramic think the "maximalistic" demands on the Serbian side are? Obviously, claims of statehood are maximalistic on the Albanian side.

are albanians satisfied with how things are today in kosovo ? european public opinion of albanians in kosovo tanked..people living off handouts..bottom feeder economy going nowhere fast...if a fake de facto independence trumps all well then ok but I think kosovo's story can be written better. A real solution needs to be found and its gonna take give by all sides

Let's be honest; Kosovo is not Switzerland and it doesn't look like it will become one anytime soon. Of course, Albanians are eager to keep believing in the brightest future for the province, but the question is how long they can/will hold on to do so. Economies are in decline everywhere, some relevant countries will never recognize Kosovo and stories about criminal politicians do not make its image any better, even if only half or none of it is true. I don't think Albanians are ready yet to believe in any dialogue with Serbia (wich is quite understandable), but I do think there will be a moment in wich they realise that some compromise really is their only option. 'Independence' makes even raw beans taste sweet for quite a while, but they won't taste like that forever. And then what?

Let's suppose for a second that under some remote chance K-Alb agree to he autonomus province status.

Now a logical question would be. What is there really that guarantees peace? What substantial guarantees will K-Albanians have that sooner or later another Serb nationalists will not come to power and start it all over again? The precedent is there, K-Alb had autonomy and it was brutally removed simply by serbian self-conviction that K-Alb did not deserve it. There were no talks no debates, they just rolled in the tanks. It will be foolish for K-Alb to themselves in the same possition again.

Besides somewhat in the communist era under Tito, Serbia has always abused its powers towards the Albanian minority, not that the Albanians didn't fight back and rebeled whenever and however they could, but Serbia was the bigger and the more mature side and needed to find a solution long time ago, for peaceful coexistence. But most serbs are brainwashed into thinking that K-Alb do not belong in Kosovo, have no rights on it, they are outsiders and thus should be treated as second class citizens. Serbs never accepted them as rightful citizens of Serbia, and K-Alb never saw Serbia as their motherland, thus they never cared for it.

Vuk Jeremic, another dreamer I just can't believe he has a nerve to use the word Unhuman for Albanians, he must of being still at preschool when Slobo and Arkan were doing things nobody has done since Hitler’s time, and yet he speaks at USA about Kosovars like that, hmmmmm what an idiot

"To sum it up, Kosovo has found itself stuck in legal, political and economic chaos, which is the result of its attempt to secede unilaterally from Serbia,"

Not sure about the political and economic part, but the legal situation is crystal clear since last July, thanks, above all, to Vuk's personal contribution.

The compromise stated that Kosovo would remain a part of Serbia, but would come under UN administration, and thats how it still is
(John, 19 February 2011 00:00)

Yes, in the famous Serb copy that has much more stuff there than the English and French versions :)

As for attempting your Plan B, I think the result instead would be the current de factor partition of Kosovo at the Ibar becoming de jure.
(lowe, 19 February 2011 04:59)

You are absolutely right and with that there will be nothing left to fight for anymore. North of Ibar will be happy to go under Serbia and the Albanians will not have to deal with that trouble any longer. Kosovo's membership in some international organizations will become a moot point which will remove the other point of conflict with Serbia. That would be the ideal solution. The problem is whether the politicians in Serbia, Kosovo and Albania will have the courage to act to implement what you described.

NATO will not stay for 500 years like the Ottomans did.

this time it will be over much quicker.
(Jovan, 20 February 2011 16:25)

ha, ha... Jovan, FYI, NATO is already leaving (there are just few thousand soliders left in Kosovo).. However, I don't understand what this does have to do with anything ?!

what does Kosovo have to offer? NOTHING. (sj, 21 February 2011 07:58)

You are amazing sj... why does Kosovo have to offer anything ?!

And, by the way, what is Serbia offering ? UN membership for Kosovo ?

Wrong time and wrong place to say such stuff, knowing that United States was among the very first ones to regonize Kosova, besides they're in there 24/7 and trust me Vuk they know about the situation on the ground way better than you.
Mr.Vuk don't worry too much about citizens of Kosova, worry about your Serbia instead. Pheeeewwwww!!!
(Nelli_Canada, 18 February 2011 21:32)

nellie in case you're still confused you albos are renters in Kosmet.RES 1244 Achewwwwwwwww.

(Denis, 20 February 2011 17:16)
Yes, there is merit in some of what you have stated here. However, to think for a moment that the Albanians are the innocent here is laughable – you are the most difficult people to live with and that’s a fact. Albanians do not tolerate anyone else or if you don’t believe this ask where are the ethnic Turks, Muslim Roma, or any other ethnic non-Serb group in Kosovo. All were kicked out at the first opportunity so don’t try and paint yourself as the aggrieved.
The Albanians didn’t want to talk as they were already in the US pocket and were looking for an excuse to start a fight. It funny how Albanians fondly remember Tito but in 1948 when there was tension along the Yugoslav/Greek border the first place old Tito send additional troops was to Kosovo; in 1949/50 during tensions between the west and Yugoslavia over Trieste the first place Tito send re-enforcements to was Kosovo; during the mid 1950s there were other incidents and can you guess where additional troops were always sent to????? There is a pattern here.
However, here is your scenario – no meaningful talks no more EU aid = no more Kosovo or Albanians. The EU has run out of MONEY and as the US is slowly but surely contracting the EU is taking matters into its own hands and the information now leaking all points to telling the Albanians to get to the table and negotiate. I am amazed to see how blind some of you people have become as to what does Kosovo have to offer? NOTHING. All you talk about freedom this or that, but what are you going to live off? EU money? US money?

"To sum it up, Kosovo has found itself stuck in legal, political and economic chaos, which is the result of its attempt to secede unilaterally from Serbia," he added.
-

All that needs to be said.

That compromise it was 1999 with NATO its to late Mr Jeremic

"Unemployment exceeds 50 percent, corruption is out of control, the financial sector is facing a breakdown, and human rights are being constantly violated, especially against non-Albanians," Jermic said, adding that Kosovo's international status is also uncertain.


You can tell lias to someone in Belgrade or Kraljevo, but not in USA. Kosova is much better since Independence than before.

Yes, too little too late. Few care what you have to say about Kosovo, Vuk. There was a time Serbia could have had leverage on this issue, but squandered it. Unfortunately, this is a very constant story.

Early elections please.

The Serbian FM is having an impact on changing the minds in Washington. Although the change is minimal each time it is obvious.
I can say for certain that the US Government does in fact regret supporting Kosovo and its UDI but, the US Governent will never admit to it publically.
As long as the Serbian Government consistently fights for Kosovo in the world community as it has been. They will be successful in forcing Pristina to the negotiating table where I see the US Government choosing not to intervene on behalf of the Kosovo Government.
What Serbia does with this opportunity is the real question.

As I see this, Serbia is much better off without Kosovo. At the same time I do understand reasons that make it hard for two thirds of Serbs to digest Kosovo's departure. Without going now to lengthy polemics against or for Kosovo's departure I ask Serbs to consider changing their point of observation in this matter. Not bindingly, but just for now, in order two answer a question: can you see anything positive in the separation of Kosovo from Serbia proper?

To Agim I want to say that it is quite questionable to pronounce "Kosova is much better since Independence than before". I don't know which period of time you compare the present time with. Any period before 2008? And is the independence the decisive factor for things to be better?

As I said I belong to a clan that sees Kosovo's separation a healthy incidence, a healing process to Serbia. But I also see that Serbia has no obligations to pave way for Kosovo. Kosovo has taken this burden on itself. And Kosovo has no position to cry if Serbia occasionally hinders Kosovo's attempts for progress. This is what is done to Serbia, too, by many strong countries - and supported by Kosovars.

To Charli I only can say that it is very pretentious to say that "there was a time Serbia could have had leverage on this issue [on Kosovo's position]". Time after time I have witnessed Albanian view that their fight against belonging to Serbia (and to Yugoslavia) lasted at least 90 years, if not longer. One fact arises above others: there never was a serious attempt to build something together, for various reasons. And if some fact should be taken as a starting point for any negotiations or co-operation it is this fact. You either continue on this path or step away from it.

"Unemployment exceeds 50 percent, corruption is out of control, the financial sector is facing a breakdown, and human rights are being constantly violated, especially against non-Albanians," Jermic said, adding that Kosovo's international status is also uncertain.


Wrong time and wrong place to say such stuff, knowing that United States was among the very first ones to regonize Kosova, besides they're in there 24/7 and trust me Vuk they know about the situation on the ground way better than you.
Mr.Vuk don't worry too much about citizens of Kosova, worry about your Serbia instead. Pheeeewwwww!!!

UFF Vuce ! I'm sick and tired always same music man , my ears going to fall out ,please change the tune because all west got bored with you ?

this serb called foreign minister of serbia is a clown and schould be ignored. he has no power and no one expect serbs cares what he has to say. this clown and most of serbs cant accept that albanians won and serbs lost.

The independence of Kosovo was the best compromised offered by albanians to Serbia. Serbia should accept it or plan B will be to re-unite Kosovo with Albania.

Kosovo and Serbia inside the same borders is not and will not be an option now or never. It is somthing imposible because the independence of Kosovo will not be the topic of any talks. If Serbia tryes to make it a topic, the smallest thing albanians can do is to leave the dialoug with Serbia.

Reamember that Serbia need's the dialoug more than Kosovo does. Serbia needs to have good relations with Kosovo to become an member of EU. The only way Serbia can reach that is by recognizing Kosovo.


Don't belive Vuk Jeremic because he has not succeded with somthing since he became an FM of Serbia. Kosovo has won all battles !!

You have to offer something that Albanians dont have. Very unfortunate but you are bringing nothing new to the table. Every Albanian knows that they are much better now then when they were under the Serbian rule. I see these new round of talks as away to fix the short term issues and daily problems but not adressing the big questions. Albanians will never agree to give up their hard fought independence and Serbia would not agree to recognize it so lets do what EU diplomats are saying, lets discuss the practical issues that affect the daily lives of the citizens. Simple things like recognzing each others license plates, using each others air space, recognzing each others documents, not killing each other over nothing.

My god why do you need EU diplomats to tell you this you bunch of idiots. You should sit down on your own and discuss how to make things better for your people. It is for your own benefit.

"The independence of Kosovo was the best compromised offered by albanians to Serbia. Serbia should accept it or plan B will be to re-unite Kosovo with Albania. "

If this was the best that you Albanians could do, no wonder Belgrade resolutely rejected it! As for attempting your Plan B, I think the result instead would be the current de factor partition of Kosovo at the Ibar becoming de jure.

"Kosovo and Serbia inside the same borders is not and will not be an option now or never. It is somthing imposible because the independence of Kosovo will not be the topic of any talks. If Serbia tryes to make it a topic, the smallest thing albanians can do is to leave the dialoug with Serbia. "

Actually I don't think the talks would be successful.


"Reamember that Serbia need's the dialoug more than Kosovo does. Serbia needs to have good relations with Kosovo to become an member of EU. The only way Serbia can reach that is by recognizing Kosovo. "

I think Pristina needs the talk more than Belgrade, Because I think Pristina wants UN membership more than Serbians are crazy about EU membership.


"Don't belive Vuk Jeremic because he has not succeded with somthing since he became an FM of Serbia. Kosovo has won all battles !!
(demi, 18 February 2011 20:18)"

Kosovo didn't win. The major powers of the West bullied Serbia and that's why you got what you wanted. And what they got after that is having to keep financing you guys, perhaps indefinitely. Serve them right!

"To sum it up, Kosovo has found itself stuck in legal, political and economic chaos, which is the result of its attempt to secede unilaterally from Serbia," he added.

Really Mr.Jeremic?You care so much about the lives of Albanians in Kosovo? So we were living in paradise while Serbia ruled Kosovo? Why dont you Serbs organize a referendum in kosovo and ask:Do you people want to live in chaos or do you want to join Serbia?It is very simple and you will have the answer.You are not going to like it but it is the truth.We will choose chaos over being ruled by Serbia.Your serbian brothers in montenegro didn't want to live with you so don't be naive and expect Albanians to act diferently.And by the way B92 should have written about the exchange between Jeremic and the Albanian students there also.

As I see this, Serbia is much better off without Kosovo. At the same time I do understand reasons that make it hard for two thirds of Serbs to digest Kosovo's departure.

You are right Olli, Serbia is certainly much better off without, and at the end this place became such a hot potatoe that not many wants to carry it.
As long as the place is run by criminals there is no future nowhere but it seems that the k-trolls around here have a hard time to get it !

That compromise it was 1999 with NATO its to late Mr Jeremic
(ilir, 18 February 2011 16:14)

The compromise stated that Kosovo would remain a part of Serbia, but would come under UN administration, and thats how it still is

sigh,

serbia will NEVER be able to negotiate a theft, where force and violence have already failed.

Today the govt. of the republic of serbia, HAS nothing. Will Lose Nothing. It has Nothing to offer. It has Nothing with wich to compromise with.

enjoy.

are albanians satisfied with how things are today in kosovo ? european public opinion of albanians in kosovo tanked..people living off handouts..bottom feeder economy going nowhere fast...if a fake de facto independence trumps all well then ok but I think kosovo's story can be written better. A real solution needs to be found and its gonna take give by all sides

(pss, 19 February 2011 14:24)

Ask the Croats how they now feel with Purda being extradited to Belgrade. Would you have seen that happening 5 years ago let alone 10? I only have to look at the balance sheets – no more money left; you understandy now?
Here is what the Albanians have to bargain with – ZERO. Oh, I do apologize there are 2 million mouths to feed and an unemployment rate of 80%. Good bargaining point.
But if you see my “predictions” as wrong here is you opportunity to tell me where I have messed up…… Feel free. How many factories opened up in Kosovo in the last 6 months?????

You have to offer something that Albanians dont have. Very unfortunate but you are bringing nothing new to the table. Every Albanian knows that they are much better now then when they were under the Serbian rule. I see these new round of talks as away to fix the short term issues and daily problems but not adressing the big questions. Albanians will never agree to give up their hard fought independence and Serbia would not agree to recognize it so lets do what EU diplomats are saying, lets discuss the practical issues that affect the daily lives of the citizens. Simple things like recognzing each others license plates, using each others air space, recognzing each others documents, not killing each other over nothing.

My god why do you need EU diplomats to tell you this you bunch of idiots. You should sit down on your own and discuss how to make things better for your people. It is for your own benefit.
(John, 18 February 2011 19:47)

Sorry, but that name is taken

Mark-I was in Pristina many times before the war. It was great, lots of construction, people going about their business, safe streets etc. What is it like now. (That's a rhetorical question btw)

I can say for certain that the US Government does in fact regret supporting Kosovo and its UDI but, the US Governent will never admit to it publically.
As long as the Serbian Government consistently fights for Kosovo in the world community as it has been. They will be successful in forcing Pristina to the negotiating table where I see the US Government choosing not to intervene on behalf of the Kosovo Government.
What Serbia does with this opportunity is the real question.
(D, 18 February 2011 19:13)
Sounds like you have been attending the same high level meetings as sj. Maybe you sit together in these imaginary conferences. He is able to tell definitively what tie Obama is going to wear on a particular day before he even gets dressed. Of course his prediction rate is about 99.98% wrong but hey nobody is perfect.
You can say anything with certainty however on this point you are way out in left field. I do love the disclaimer though I know....but they will never admit it.

Let's be honest; Kosovo is not Switzerland and it doesn't look like it will become one anytime soon. Of course, Albanians are eager to keep believing in the brightest future for the province, but the question is how long they can/will hold on to do so. Economies are in decline everywhere, some relevant countries will never recognize Kosovo and stories about criminal politicians do not make its image any better, even if only half or none of it is true. I don't think Albanians are ready yet to believe in any dialogue with Serbia (wich is quite understandable), but I do think there will be a moment in wich they realise that some compromise really is their only option. 'Independence' makes even raw beans taste sweet for quite a while, but they won't taste like that forever. And then what?

no, Amer, ...we won´t give up.

that´s why you will fail.

time will come that you will realize that.

but, if you were smart, you would know it by now.
look into history, Serbs have never given up, they have always fought foreign occupiers, and they lost a battle, but in the end they won the war.

and that will be the same with the current occupation.

and one thing is quite clear, ....NATO will not stay for 500 years like the Ottomans did.

this time it will be over much quicker.

and before you start complaining about being threatened by "the Serbs", this is no threat, but a certainty.

"Jeremić said that in order to achieve sustainable and just peace, all sides involved in the matter have to give up on their "maximalistic" demands."

What exactly does Jeramic think the "maximalistic" demands on the Serbian side are? Obviously, claims of statehood are maximalistic on the Albanian side.

(Denis, 20 February 2011 17:16)
Yes, there is merit in some of what you have stated here. However, to think for a moment that the Albanians are the innocent here is laughable – you are the most difficult people to live with and that’s a fact. Albanians do not tolerate anyone else or if you don’t believe this ask where are the ethnic Turks, Muslim Roma, or any other ethnic non-Serb group in Kosovo. All were kicked out at the first opportunity so don’t try and paint yourself as the aggrieved.
The Albanians didn’t want to talk as they were already in the US pocket and were looking for an excuse to start a fight. It funny how Albanians fondly remember Tito but in 1948 when there was tension along the Yugoslav/Greek border the first place old Tito send additional troops was to Kosovo; in 1949/50 during tensions between the west and Yugoslavia over Trieste the first place Tito send re-enforcements to was Kosovo; during the mid 1950s there were other incidents and can you guess where additional troops were always sent to????? There is a pattern here.
However, here is your scenario – no meaningful talks no more EU aid = no more Kosovo or Albanians. The EU has run out of MONEY and as the US is slowly but surely contracting the EU is taking matters into its own hands and the information now leaking all points to telling the Albanians to get to the table and negotiate. I am amazed to see how blind some of you people have become as to what does Kosovo have to offer? NOTHING. All you talk about freedom this or that, but what are you going to live off? EU money? US money?

Wrong time and wrong place to say such stuff, knowing that United States was among the very first ones to regonize Kosova, besides they're in there 24/7 and trust me Vuk they know about the situation on the ground way better than you.
Mr.Vuk don't worry too much about citizens of Kosova, worry about your Serbia instead. Pheeeewwwww!!!
(Nelli_Canada, 18 February 2011 21:32)

nellie in case you're still confused you albos are renters in Kosmet.RES 1244 Achewwwwwwwww.

"I can say for certain that the US Government does in fact regret supporting Kosovo and its UDI ...

(D, 18 February 2011 19:13) "

And I say for certain that the US Government does not regret it. So what? Neither statement means a thing.

But the Albanians have throughout history been willing to side up with anyone who talked about helping them break away from the Serbs, so attempting to force them back under Serbian control would lead only to continued instability in the region. So things are rough now? Post-conflict situations are always rough, and in a case where a large neighbor is dedicated to the new country's failing, they're bound to be even worse. Better to stick with the current arrangement and work to make it better than to give up and half to fight the same battle again in the future. We don't want to have future generations complaining about getting things wrong the way the current one does about the provisions the Great Powers made a hundred years ago.

"To sum it up, Kosovo has found itself stuck in legal, political and economic chaos, which is the result of its attempt to secede unilaterally from Serbia," he added.
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All that needs to be said.

Let's suppose for a second that under some remote chance K-Alb agree to he autonomus province status.

Now a logical question would be. What is there really that guarantees peace? What substantial guarantees will K-Albanians have that sooner or later another Serb nationalists will not come to power and start it all over again? The precedent is there, K-Alb had autonomy and it was brutally removed simply by serbian self-conviction that K-Alb did not deserve it. There were no talks no debates, they just rolled in the tanks. It will be foolish for K-Alb to themselves in the same possition again.

Besides somewhat in the communist era under Tito, Serbia has always abused its powers towards the Albanian minority, not that the Albanians didn't fight back and rebeled whenever and however they could, but Serbia was the bigger and the more mature side and needed to find a solution long time ago, for peaceful coexistence. But most serbs are brainwashed into thinking that K-Alb do not belong in Kosovo, have no rights on it, they are outsiders and thus should be treated as second class citizens. Serbs never accepted them as rightful citizens of Serbia, and K-Alb never saw Serbia as their motherland, thus they never cared for it.

Vuk Jeremic, another dreamer I just can't believe he has a nerve to use the word Unhuman for Albanians, he must of being still at preschool when Slobo and Arkan were doing things nobody has done since Hitler’s time, and yet he speaks at USA about Kosovars like that, hmmmmm what an idiot

"To sum it up, Kosovo has found itself stuck in legal, political and economic chaos, which is the result of its attempt to secede unilaterally from Serbia,"

Not sure about the political and economic part, but the legal situation is crystal clear since last July, thanks, above all, to Vuk's personal contribution.

The compromise stated that Kosovo would remain a part of Serbia, but would come under UN administration, and thats how it still is
(John, 19 February 2011 00:00)

Yes, in the famous Serb copy that has much more stuff there than the English and French versions :)

As for attempting your Plan B, I think the result instead would be the current de factor partition of Kosovo at the Ibar becoming de jure.
(lowe, 19 February 2011 04:59)

You are absolutely right and with that there will be nothing left to fight for anymore. North of Ibar will be happy to go under Serbia and the Albanians will not have to deal with that trouble any longer. Kosovo's membership in some international organizations will become a moot point which will remove the other point of conflict with Serbia. That would be the ideal solution. The problem is whether the politicians in Serbia, Kosovo and Albania will have the courage to act to implement what you described.

NATO will not stay for 500 years like the Ottomans did.

this time it will be over much quicker.
(Jovan, 20 February 2011 16:25)

ha, ha... Jovan, FYI, NATO is already leaving (there are just few thousand soliders left in Kosovo).. However, I don't understand what this does have to do with anything ?!

what does Kosovo have to offer? NOTHING. (sj, 21 February 2011 07:58)

You are amazing sj... why does Kosovo have to offer anything ?!

And, by the way, what is Serbia offering ? UN membership for Kosovo ?