Reports: Testimonies about organ trade

Well I think that about wraps up the insanity of human nature- how on the one hand you can pursue crimes against humanity and on the other conceal crimes against humanity and consider yourself a normal rational human being who can sleep at night.

Here's to all those at UNMIK, and the Hague who knew about this, concealed it and destroyed evidence. Here is to the BBC, the Western Media and politicians from the USA, GB, Germany, France and Italy who are tirelessly trying to surpress justice, decency, and morality. Here's to Uselex.

I can see now why the invention of heaven and hell was such a success. The victims of inhumanity on earth, who will never see justice ,can atleast hope there is a hell where all the above will be booked in to five star accommodation.

Time to set up a good witness protection system so the truth can finally be known. I am very curious to know what they have to say. I wouldn't be surprised if they included doctors involved in the organ removal and UN staff exposing the cover-up.

This could turn into a historical event that paves the way for truth and reconciliation in the region.

"I am sure this rubbish was offered to all other serious broadcasts corp and they refused." (ben)

-- You have a habit of being sure of a lot of things that turn out to be problematic.

http://www.france24.com/en/20110216-un-confidential-document-kosovo-organ-trafficking-investigation-unmik-eulex

http://www.france24.com/static/infographies/documents/kosovo_house_2003.pdf

ben, shouting through your keyboard with gratuitous amounts of capitalization and punctionuation does not make your argument stand. The fact remains that knowledge of crimes committed by the KLA have been around for years and whether you want to acknowledge them or not makes no difference to me. You pointed this out as rubbish and continue to treat this as something that is little more than agit-prop. With international pressure at the very least now moving in the direction to find some evidence of this, I dare say your side can scoff this off as glibly as you do. The days of passing this off as anti-Albanian propaganda have now passed.

The difference is the Serbs turned in 95% of all the Serbs accused by the west of war crimes. The albos have turned in 5% of the albos accused of war crimes. Enough said.

All I can think of is that laughing hyena, Kouchner, and his involvement as the first head of a "liberated Kosova". And this scumbag is a physician. Joseph Mengele has met his match.

the doc obove was basis of the investigation THAT ALREADY TOOK PLACE OK???????? by UNMIK and then Hague.

C A S E C L O S E D
by both of them.

Cut me some slack pls.
(ben, 17 February 2011 15:48)

ben, do you know who WRITES LIKE T H A T????????????? Excitable teenage girls, that's who (and probably Vlora Citaku). Be a good lad now and show a bit of dignity.

Again, if there is evidence people should face justice in a court of law.

But I get the feeling that you Serbs want to use this event to easy your conscience.

Do not forget about the millions of people who fled their homes and the hundreds of thousands innocent civilians you have slaughtered duing this balkan war.

You should be ashamed to use this as a pre-text.

Tung

We know that eurocrats knew about these crimes and that they were covering them for their own gains(Albright group among others)and world as we know will never be the same in beleiving their causes.
And this makes them just as guilty as albanian monsters.

I wonder how kiddies like "ben" are not ashamed to write such a nonsense here...

not only is he helplessly interpreting the ICJ-opinion as a "miserable loss" for the Serbs, ...although it is rather a miserable outcome for the greater albanian project, as the future will show, but ...let´s just see what future brings! =)

no, he even dares to "teach" the Serbs what "their mothers have not done"!

my dear k-albanian friend, not only is it quite shameless to write something like that, it´s also simply stupid.

the question should be, what have your parents taught you actually???

unbelievable, really.

ben,

I absolutely don't know which way the organ trafficking case will go -nevertheless I sincerely advise you to get hold of some strong downers in the worst case.

And FREEDOM,

Would you tell me a bit more precisely how many hundreds of thousands civilians Serbs slaughtered in the latest Balkans war? I'm a bit worried that my school going kids are receiving biased information. Is there any chance to send them educated in Prishtina, even on some brief course?

The difference is the Serbs turned in 95% of all the Serbs accused by the west of war crimes. The albos have turned in 5% of the albos accused of war crimes. Enough said.
(JohnBoy,

I hope you are not educated by the same people who make those numbers up.
(Liberale, 17 February 2011 18:36)

Your right, 58/60 is actually 96.66%

Freedom, I believe most Serbs have faced and accept that atrocities were committed in Kosovo in their name. Now it is time for Albanians to accept the fact that atrocities were also committed by the KLA in their names. When both sides (Serbs and Albanians), face the truth in what happened in Kosovo during the conflicts, only then can we all move forward and work towards a better future for everyone.

And will you let us know how it comes you are so familiar with the 'excitable teenage girls' psychology???
(ben, 18 February 2011 00:19)

I got to know a lot of them when I was serving in Kosovo, mate. I won't mention any names in case their brothers murder them. Terrible dump, I look forward to the day we give it back to the Serbs.

I am sure this rubbish was offered to all other serious broadcasts corp and they refused.

So KGB/BIA found the TM News???? who the hell is TM News??? no one knows or even less watches that rubbish channel it is simply inexistent.

But how does B92 know about this? Who is passing this kind of info to B92???

Let me guess... someone well informed in Belgrade???? And perhaps his office is financed by state budget??? Hmmmm...

Why do you b92 and all other Serbian mass media feel the need to talk about this rubbish on daily basis???

It is 100% sure that now there will be the 4th investigation on this case.

So why don’t you just relax and wait for the results???

If you shout loud doesn’t mean that you are right.

You always shout and you always lose – learn from your bitter past –you are ridiculing yourself.

You were shouting

- in the case of the Serbia’s trial in Hague for the crimes in Kosova; in the Milutinovic et al case – you lost
- in ICJ “THE MOMENT OF TRUTH” shouted the entire Serbia with Vuk Jeremic in the front line – you lost miserably

what do you think this time will be any different???

Lies never prevail in long run... it’s pointless. Learn this lesson that your mothers should have educated you as kids.

Please point out the reference point you are claiming in Marty's report, NJ. We would all enjoy reading it. How is your English, BTW?

The conclusion was based on testimonies of ethnic Albanians’ who served in the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), took part in the transport of at least 90 Serbs to northern Albania and the “clinic” in Burel, in disposal of human remains near the Yellow House and delivery of organs to Rinas Airport.

Good luck to these brave witnesses...
The k-albos camp will of course call them propaganda paid by God knows whom. Who cares, they are well alive and all is well documentated. Mr Marty will make sure that nobody will ever again try to wipe it under the rug.
Reading the following link on the lies that leaded to the war in Irak and the dirty involvment of the Germans' secret service can only reinforce Mr Marty's claim that an independant commission has to be set up.
Whether Frisco the fog likes it or not, who cares, he is another blind denier !

Get your records straight dudes,you are going to be Jamahiria pretty soon(England).Scots and Irish have more guts(have them in tha family)
(Jola, 18 February 2011 02:57)

Nice try Ilir, but you're obviously no more of a Serb than I am. The Scots and Irish are the Montenegrins and Albanians of Britain and the only reason you're interested in their guts is because you want to sell them: their guts, their kidneys, their livers...

It is interesting how many knowledgable people we have here.They never been,seen or expirienced Serbia and its people.But they know who,where,why and how.Why dont you ask how many of albanians lived on kosovo 1946 and how many were citizens of my Yugoslavia 1979.Not many cause they came from Albania and could not obtain the same from legal Yugoslavian authorities(not Serbian).They had schools in albanian but they could not register kids(THEY ARE IN COUNTRY ILLEGALY) or they just refused to school them.Did you guys ever see walls around their houses built in order for others not to see women of the family.And hundreds of k's killed by Serbs.Get your records straight dudes,you are going to be Jamahiria pretty soon(England).Scots and Irish have more guts(have them in tha family)
Long Live Mother Serbia
P.S.
whatch royal weding-thats more in your league

" (and probably Vlora Citaku).
(The Brit,"

The Brit, do you know who else implies like that? 15 year old Serbs, and you.

Now be a good lad and show a bit of common sense.

Mike, Ben just told the fact that 2 independent investigations have been confirmed with zilch evidence. Third time lucky you think? We can make a bet and the winner donates the losers money to b92's favorite charity ;)

As for what we "know" is that Serbs have been caught fabricating misspelled stories, eg Ceku. Everyone is where they should, because of evidence or lack of.
When you have anything new from Carla, lets play knock knock jokes.

"This could turn"
(Zoran"

Yeah, lets get a coffee and yap like old woman. Its a great way to become a copy and waste a good beautiful life.
Wake us up when you finish the fiction you started :)

The difference is the Serbs turned in 95% of all the Serbs accused by the west of war crimes. The albos have turned in 5% of the albos accused of war crimes. Enough said.
(JohnBoy,

I hope you are not educated by the same people who make those numbers up.

(Mike, 17 February 2011 14:21)

this material is subject to JOURNALISTIC confidentiality!!!

don;t make me laugh pls.

The bottom line is this:

the doc obove was basis of the investigation THAT ALREADY TOOK PLACE OK???????? by UNMIK and then Hague.

C A S E C L O S E D
by both of them.

Cut me some slack pls.

Wow, shocking news. Too bad Dick Marty himself said that these yellow house 'witnesses' lied. Don't believe me? Read Dick Marty's report and the only true thing is that these 'credible witnesses' lied.

ben, do you know who WRITES LIKE T H A T???…?? Excitable teenage girls
(The Brit, 17 February 2011 17:34)

And will you let us know how it comes you are so familiar with the 'excitable teenage girls' psychology???

(Mike, 17 February 2011 17:33)

(Olli, 17 February 2011 18:01)

Let me make my point clearer:

If KGB/BIA had any tangible evidence that something even remotely similar as organ harvesting has been done by KLA
They would have used it in the moment and modality such that to cause the maximal damage to Kosova:

They would have shouted it loudly BEFORE the declaration of the independence.

Can you imagine the strength of that news underpinned with proof - had the proof existed of course?

They wouldn’t have delayed the recognition process as they are trying to do now they would have blocked that at all – they would have blocked the declaration of independence itself.

Had they only had that bloody proof...

Since all they have is fantasy and perhaps came late with the idea of the novel alla Del Ponte...

Del Ponte herself carried out the investigation in 2003/4 (sent a team of 17 forensics and other investigators in Albania and Kosova) but found nothing – after that Kosova declared the independence – then she changed profession to a dilettante fantasist/novelist – now Serbs have the “proof” – a misery that’s what they have.

Don’t be intimidated by the Serbian propaganda
Serbs don’t have proof they have wishes that want to be considered as proofs.

Just relax: it is impossible that

- Hague’s investigation;
- UNMIK’s investigation;
- 2 Investigations of the Albanian authorities

Couldn’t find not even sufficient evidence to INITIATE proceedings and now some genius from Switzerland will enlighten us all moreover without any proof – as he says himself, it wasn’t his job to provide proofs what a hec he was then doing for 2 years – enjoying Albanian Alps??

(and probably Vlora Citaku). Be a good lad now and show a bit of dignity.
(The Brit, 17 February 2011 17:34)

Pleeeease, don't offend her. She looks really good, IMO.

At least if I had the choice between to marry Boris Tadić, "Hashish" Thaçi or Vlora Çitaku - my choice #1, #2, and #3 is Vlora Çitaku (and I would run away if only the two other choices would exist).

I am sure this rubbish was offered to all other serious broadcasts corp and they refused.

So KGB/BIA found the TM News???? who the hell is TM News??? no one knows or even less watches that rubbish channel it is simply inexistent.

But how does B92 know about this? Who is passing this kind of info to B92???

Let me guess... someone well informed in Belgrade???? And perhaps his office is financed by state budget??? Hmmmm...

Why do you b92 and all other Serbian mass media feel the need to talk about this rubbish on daily basis???

It is 100% sure that now there will be the 4th investigation on this case.

So why don’t you just relax and wait for the results???

If you shout loud doesn’t mean that you are right.

You always shout and you always lose – learn from your bitter past –you are ridiculing yourself.

You were shouting

- in the case of the Serbia’s trial in Hague for the crimes in Kosova; in the Milutinovic et al case – you lost
- in ICJ “THE MOMENT OF TRUTH” shouted the entire Serbia with Vuk Jeremic in the front line – you lost miserably

what do you think this time will be any different???

Lies never prevail in long run... it’s pointless. Learn this lesson that your mothers should have educated you as kids.

Again, if there is evidence people should face justice in a court of law.

But I get the feeling that you Serbs want to use this event to easy your conscience.

Do not forget about the millions of people who fled their homes and the hundreds of thousands innocent civilians you have slaughtered duing this balkan war.

You should be ashamed to use this as a pre-text.

Tung

Wow, shocking news. Too bad Dick Marty himself said that these yellow house 'witnesses' lied. Don't believe me? Read Dick Marty's report and the only true thing is that these 'credible witnesses' lied.

(Mike, 17 February 2011 14:21)

this material is subject to JOURNALISTIC confidentiality!!!

don;t make me laugh pls.

The bottom line is this:

the doc obove was basis of the investigation THAT ALREADY TOOK PLACE OK???????? by UNMIK and then Hague.

C A S E C L O S E D
by both of them.

Cut me some slack pls.

the doc obove was basis of the investigation THAT ALREADY TOOK PLACE OK???????? by UNMIK and then Hague.

C A S E C L O S E D
by both of them.

Cut me some slack pls.
(ben, 17 February 2011 15:48)

ben, do you know who WRITES LIKE T H A T????????????? Excitable teenage girls, that's who (and probably Vlora Citaku). Be a good lad now and show a bit of dignity.

The difference is the Serbs turned in 95% of all the Serbs accused by the west of war crimes. The albos have turned in 5% of the albos accused of war crimes. Enough said.
(JohnBoy,

I hope you are not educated by the same people who make those numbers up.

" (and probably Vlora Citaku).
(The Brit,"

The Brit, do you know who else implies like that? 15 year old Serbs, and you.

Now be a good lad and show a bit of common sense.

Mike, Ben just told the fact that 2 independent investigations have been confirmed with zilch evidence. Third time lucky you think? We can make a bet and the winner donates the losers money to b92's favorite charity ;)

As for what we "know" is that Serbs have been caught fabricating misspelled stories, eg Ceku. Everyone is where they should, because of evidence or lack of.
When you have anything new from Carla, lets play knock knock jokes.

"This could turn"
(Zoran"

Yeah, lets get a coffee and yap like old woman. Its a great way to become a copy and waste a good beautiful life.
Wake us up when you finish the fiction you started :)

ben, do you know who WRITES LIKE T H A T???…?? Excitable teenage girls
(The Brit, 17 February 2011 17:34)

And will you let us know how it comes you are so familiar with the 'excitable teenage girls' psychology???

(Mike, 17 February 2011 17:33)

(Olli, 17 February 2011 18:01)

Let me make my point clearer:

If KGB/BIA had any tangible evidence that something even remotely similar as organ harvesting has been done by KLA
They would have used it in the moment and modality such that to cause the maximal damage to Kosova:

They would have shouted it loudly BEFORE the declaration of the independence.

Can you imagine the strength of that news underpinned with proof - had the proof existed of course?

They wouldn’t have delayed the recognition process as they are trying to do now they would have blocked that at all – they would have blocked the declaration of independence itself.

Had they only had that bloody proof...

Since all they have is fantasy and perhaps came late with the idea of the novel alla Del Ponte...

Del Ponte herself carried out the investigation in 2003/4 (sent a team of 17 forensics and other investigators in Albania and Kosova) but found nothing – after that Kosova declared the independence – then she changed profession to a dilettante fantasist/novelist – now Serbs have the “proof” – a misery that’s what they have.

Don’t be intimidated by the Serbian propaganda
Serbs don’t have proof they have wishes that want to be considered as proofs.

Just relax: it is impossible that

- Hague’s investigation;
- UNMIK’s investigation;
- 2 Investigations of the Albanian authorities

Couldn’t find not even sufficient evidence to INITIATE proceedings and now some genius from Switzerland will enlighten us all moreover without any proof – as he says himself, it wasn’t his job to provide proofs what a hec he was then doing for 2 years – enjoying Albanian Alps??

The difference is the Serbs turned in 95% of all the Serbs accused by the west of war crimes. The albos have turned in 5% of the albos accused of war crimes. Enough said.

It is interesting how many knowledgable people we have here.They never been,seen or expirienced Serbia and its people.But they know who,where,why and how.Why dont you ask how many of albanians lived on kosovo 1946 and how many were citizens of my Yugoslavia 1979.Not many cause they came from Albania and could not obtain the same from legal Yugoslavian authorities(not Serbian).They had schools in albanian but they could not register kids(THEY ARE IN COUNTRY ILLEGALY) or they just refused to school them.Did you guys ever see walls around their houses built in order for others not to see women of the family.And hundreds of k's killed by Serbs.Get your records straight dudes,you are going to be Jamahiria pretty soon(England).Scots and Irish have more guts(have them in tha family)
Long Live Mother Serbia
P.S.
whatch royal weding-thats more in your league

Well I think that about wraps up the insanity of human nature- how on the one hand you can pursue crimes against humanity and on the other conceal crimes against humanity and consider yourself a normal rational human being who can sleep at night.

Here's to all those at UNMIK, and the Hague who knew about this, concealed it and destroyed evidence. Here is to the BBC, the Western Media and politicians from the USA, GB, Germany, France and Italy who are tirelessly trying to surpress justice, decency, and morality. Here's to Uselex.

I can see now why the invention of heaven and hell was such a success. The victims of inhumanity on earth, who will never see justice ,can atleast hope there is a hell where all the above will be booked in to five star accommodation.

ben,

I absolutely don't know which way the organ trafficking case will go -nevertheless I sincerely advise you to get hold of some strong downers in the worst case.

And FREEDOM,

Would you tell me a bit more precisely how many hundreds of thousands civilians Serbs slaughtered in the latest Balkans war? I'm a bit worried that my school going kids are receiving biased information. Is there any chance to send them educated in Prishtina, even on some brief course?

Time to set up a good witness protection system so the truth can finally be known. I am very curious to know what they have to say. I wouldn't be surprised if they included doctors involved in the organ removal and UN staff exposing the cover-up.

This could turn into a historical event that paves the way for truth and reconciliation in the region.

We know that eurocrats knew about these crimes and that they were covering them for their own gains(Albright group among others)and world as we know will never be the same in beleiving their causes.
And this makes them just as guilty as albanian monsters.

ben, shouting through your keyboard with gratuitous amounts of capitalization and punctionuation does not make your argument stand. The fact remains that knowledge of crimes committed by the KLA have been around for years and whether you want to acknowledge them or not makes no difference to me. You pointed this out as rubbish and continue to treat this as something that is little more than agit-prop. With international pressure at the very least now moving in the direction to find some evidence of this, I dare say your side can scoff this off as glibly as you do. The days of passing this off as anti-Albanian propaganda have now passed.

Freedom, I believe most Serbs have faced and accept that atrocities were committed in Kosovo in their name. Now it is time for Albanians to accept the fact that atrocities were also committed by the KLA in their names. When both sides (Serbs and Albanians), face the truth in what happened in Kosovo during the conflicts, only then can we all move forward and work towards a better future for everyone.

Please point out the reference point you are claiming in Marty's report, NJ. We would all enjoy reading it. How is your English, BTW?

"I am sure this rubbish was offered to all other serious broadcasts corp and they refused." (ben)

-- You have a habit of being sure of a lot of things that turn out to be problematic.

http://www.france24.com/en/20110216-un-confidential-document-kosovo-organ-trafficking-investigation-unmik-eulex

http://www.france24.com/static/infographies/documents/kosovo_house_2003.pdf

The conclusion was based on testimonies of ethnic Albanians’ who served in the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), took part in the transport of at least 90 Serbs to northern Albania and the “clinic” in Burel, in disposal of human remains near the Yellow House and delivery of organs to Rinas Airport.

Good luck to these brave witnesses...
The k-albos camp will of course call them propaganda paid by God knows whom. Who cares, they are well alive and all is well documentated. Mr Marty will make sure that nobody will ever again try to wipe it under the rug.
Reading the following link on the lies that leaded to the war in Irak and the dirty involvment of the Germans' secret service can only reinforce Mr Marty's claim that an independant commission has to be set up.
Whether Frisco the fog likes it or not, who cares, he is another blind denier !

And will you let us know how it comes you are so familiar with the 'excitable teenage girls' psychology???
(ben, 18 February 2011 00:19)

I got to know a lot of them when I was serving in Kosovo, mate. I won't mention any names in case their brothers murder them. Terrible dump, I look forward to the day we give it back to the Serbs.

I wonder how kiddies like "ben" are not ashamed to write such a nonsense here...

not only is he helplessly interpreting the ICJ-opinion as a "miserable loss" for the Serbs, ...although it is rather a miserable outcome for the greater albanian project, as the future will show, but ...let´s just see what future brings! =)

no, he even dares to "teach" the Serbs what "their mothers have not done"!

my dear k-albanian friend, not only is it quite shameless to write something like that, it´s also simply stupid.

the question should be, what have your parents taught you actually???

unbelievable, really.

All I can think of is that laughing hyena, Kouchner, and his involvement as the first head of a "liberated Kosova". And this scumbag is a physician. Joseph Mengele has met his match.

Get your records straight dudes,you are going to be Jamahiria pretty soon(England).Scots and Irish have more guts(have them in tha family)
(Jola, 18 February 2011 02:57)

Nice try Ilir, but you're obviously no more of a Serb than I am. The Scots and Irish are the Montenegrins and Albanians of Britain and the only reason you're interested in their guts is because you want to sell them: their guts, their kidneys, their livers...

The difference is the Serbs turned in 95% of all the Serbs accused by the west of war crimes. The albos have turned in 5% of the albos accused of war crimes. Enough said.
(JohnBoy,

I hope you are not educated by the same people who make those numbers up.
(Liberale, 17 February 2011 18:36)

Your right, 58/60 is actually 96.66%

(and probably Vlora Citaku). Be a good lad now and show a bit of dignity.
(The Brit, 17 February 2011 17:34)

Pleeeease, don't offend her. She looks really good, IMO.

At least if I had the choice between to marry Boris Tadić, "Hashish" Thaçi or Vlora Çitaku - my choice #1, #2, and #3 is Vlora Çitaku (and I would run away if only the two other choices would exist).